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zo...@indirect.com
In article <4umasf$7...@cronkite.polaristel.net> do...@faribault.polaristel.net (Garrison Netzel) writes:
>From: do...@faribault.polaristel.net (Garrison Netzel)
>Subject: ZONER'S FAMILY PORTRAIT!!! - zoner1x.jpg [0/6]
>Date: 12 Aug 1996 04:10:55 GMT
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> I give up. That's it. I give up. I tried to reason with Zoner
>through calm, polite email. I really did. But guess what? It didn't work!
> And do you know why? Because (brace yourself) he's insane!
> He is now comparing himself and his mission to that of Jesus Christ.
> He expresses how he cares so deeply for every one of us that he CAN'T let us
>discuss atheist issues...for he HAS to convert us.
No, you asked me why I post in alt.atheism, and I said, for the same reason
Christ spent time with unbelievers while He was on earth, because they needed
it, no sense preaching to the choir.
I also never said that I HAD to convert you, I said that if one person comes
to know the Lord it is worth it, and that if you just couldn't stand reading
my posts, to put me in your killfile, instead you wig out.
> But Todd, saving souls is no excuse for bad manners.
Oh yes it is...
> What is responsible for this bizarre mental state of his? Well, if
>you add up all the numerical values of the letters in "Zoner" according to
>the Hebrew alphabet, and then you divide by each consecutive number in the
>Fibonacci sequence, then convert the quotients into English alphanumerics, it
>spells "Brice." Coincidence? I think not. Both Zoner and mCcOY are
>Brice-ing out on us at the same time.
> But seriously, I tried explaining to him that what he's doing here is
>rude, flooding newsgroups with off-topic posts which amount to nothing more
>than bullying.
And I said that I wasn't bullying, I usually repsond to posts with my
viewpoint, why can't you handle that?
I tried to show him that he is only being disruptive to all
>of us, that "converting heathens" is not what this newsgroup is for.
> Ah, but alas, he didn't get it. He came down on me for attempting to
>"censor the internet." He thinks that this is his mission in life, and he is
>proud of what he's done to this newsgroup.
Garrison, I think YOU are Brice-ing out, I never said that!
> So, Zoner, in the spirit of freedom of information, I now post my
>version of your family portrait. You want enemies? You've got 'em. All's
>fair from here on out. I now know there's no use trying to reason with you.
> All you want to do is start fights.
No, I don't want enemies, I just posted an alternative viewpoint, if you got
angry, it was YOU, NOT I that started a fight. As I have stated, I have been
civil to you in our private discussions, and you choose to try and attack me
personally, instead of discussing issues, how sad.
>Yes, that's what you want.
> If you think it's wrong of me to do what I did, (doctoring your
>picture and posting it here), well, then I guess you're just pro-censorship,
>aren't you? See, you seem to think that this newsgroup is a manners-free
>world, that you should be allowed to ignore basic etiquette and courtesy and
>do whatever you please here.
You can do whatever you want, and post it all you want, I will never see it,
so the person you want to hurt the most won't see it. Also, people may
download it, look at it, laugh, but do you REALLY think that people will keep
it, and keep looking at it, I doubt it. Most people here have better things
to do, like discuss issues, however you subscribe to hate tactics, and yeah,
YOUR world view is the way to go, yeah RIGHT! Hate your neighbor as yourself.
> Well, then I will do whatever I please to YOU.
Yeah whatever...
> Until you admit that the same rules of courtesy that govern the way
>we interact with each other in society are should govern the way we interact
>here, I will follow the Stix plan to the letter. I will not take any of your
>posts seriously, and I will not respond unless to degrade you. That is what
>you want. That is what you'll get.
Since when have you ever replied intelligently to my posts?
> I am doing this to illustrate that there IS such a thing as rudeness
>on the internet. There ARE certain things that we shouldn't be allowed to
>do. I'm sorry you don't see that. Maybe, given time, you will.
I was already aware of rudeness on the internet, you and Stix are prime
examples, I hope both of your mother's are proud!
> As long as you continue to flood this newsgroup with
>bandwidth-wasting one-liners and incessant bullying, ignoring long-standing
>rules of net conduct, I will fight you in the same way. Fire with fire,
>water with water. That is what you want.
That is not what I want, but if you feel you must be childesh go ahead, and
waste bandwidth.
> If you think all is fair, that anyone should be allowed to do
>whatever mean, disruptive thing he/she wants, then I'll play your little
>game. Since I can't tell you how I feel, for you are not intelligent enough
>to understand, I will have to show you. And I encourage others to do the
>same. There is no use taking this man seriously. He told me that his only
>goal here is to disrupt us. This is what he wants.
YOU ARE A LIAR!!!
I NEVER said that my goal was to disrupt you, you are such a liar!
> Todd Benzer, dear geek, you should've known better than to post your
>picture on the internet and then go and make so many enemies. Tsk, tsk.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, at least I don't hide behind aliases like so many here.
> So in case you haven't gotten it by now, I'll be blunt: I do not
>like you
I am sorry you feel that way.
. I now know you are insane.
NOT!
I think you need help. I feel sorry
>for the daughter you're going to damage.
Yeah, right! She will be better adjusted than you, you have YET to prove any
maturity, and now you just threw any that you had right out the window. I can
guarantee that my daughter would never do what you do, thank God!
But there's nothing I can do about
>that. All I can attempt to do is get you out of my life. And so I begin.
>Enjoy the ride, Todd.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Gee Garrison, ever hear of a killfile? Guess not, you would rather waste your
time as well as everyone else's by spreading your hate, thanks for proving to
everyone that you need God to have genuine love.
> For this is what you wanted.
Nope, I think it is what YOU wanted.
>--
>Garrison Netzel
>do...@faribault.polaristel.net
>---------------------------------
>"I am an intellectual." - John McCoy, 06/26/96
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Michelle Malkin
> I give up. That's it. I give up. I tried to reason with Zoner
>through calm, polite email. I really did. But guess what? It didn't work!
> And do you know why? Because (brace yourself) he's insane!
> He is now comparing himself and his mission to that of Jesus Christ.
> He expresses how he cares so deeply for every one of us that he CAN'T let us
>discuss atheist issues...for he HAS to convert us.
>
> But Todd, saving souls is no excuse for bad manners.
>
> What is responsible for this bizarre mental state of his? Well, if
>you add up all the numerical values of the letters in "Zoner" according to
>the Hebrew alphabet, and then you divide by each consecutive number in the
>Fibonacci sequence, then convert the quotients into English alphanumerics, it
>spells "Brice." Coincidence? I think not. Both Zoner and mCcOY are
>Brice-ing out on us at the same time.
>
>
> But seriously, I tried explaining to him that what he's doing here is
>rude, flooding newsgroups with off-topic posts which amount to nothing more
>than bullying. I tried to show him that he is only being disruptive to all
>of us, that "converting heathens" is not what this newsgroup is for.
> Ah, but alas, he didn't get it. He came down on me for attempting to
>"censor the internet." He thinks that this is his mission in life, and he is
>proud of what he's done to this newsgroup.
>
> So, Zoner, in the spirit of freedom of information, I now post my
>version of your family portrait. You want enemies? You've got 'em. All's
>fair from here on out. I now know there's no use trying to reason with you.
> All you want to do is start fights.
>Yes, that's what you want.
> If you think it's wrong of me to do what I did, (doctoring your
>picture and posting it here), well, then I guess you're just pro-censorship,
>aren't you? See, you seem to think that this newsgroup is a manners-free
>world, that you should be allowed to ignore basic etiquette and courtesy and
>do whatever you please here.
>
> Well, then I will do whatever I please to YOU.
> Until you admit that the same rules of courtesy that govern the way
>we interact with each other in society are should govern the way we interact
>here, I will follow the Stix plan to the letter. I will not take any of your
>posts seriously, and I will not respond unless to degrade you. That is what
>you want. That is what you'll get.
>
> I am doing this to illustrate that there IS such a thing as rudeness
>on the internet. There ARE certain things that we shouldn't be allowed to
>do. I'm sorry you don't see that. Maybe, given time, you will.
>
>
> As long as you continue to flood this newsgroup with
>bandwidth-wasting one-liners and incessant bullying, ignoring long-standing
>rules of net conduct, I will fight you in the same way. Fire with fire,
>water with water. That is what you want.
>
> If you think all is fair, that anyone should be allowed to do
>whatever mean, disruptive thing he/she wants, then I'll play your little
>game. Since I can't tell you how I feel, for you are not intelligent enough
>to understand, I will have to show you. And I encourage others to do the
>same. There is no use taking this man seriously. He told me that his only
>goal here is to disrupt us. This is what he wants.
>
> Todd Benzer, dear geek, you should've known better than to post your
>picture on the internet and then go and make so many enemies. Tsk, tsk.
>
> So in case you haven't gotten it by now, I'll be blunt: I do not
>like you. I now know you are insane. I think you need help. I feel sorry
>for the daughter you're going to damage. But there's nothing I can do about
>that. All I can attempt to do is get you out of my life. And so I begin.
>Enjoy the ride, Todd.
> For this is what you wanted.
>
>
>
>
>--
>Garrison Netzel
He says that it's his duty to convert us?! That's exactly what Brice Wellington said.
Brice said that it was his mission to preach to the Internet and especialyy alt.
atheism. Brice's big mistake was advertising the horrible things he was doing to his
daughters. I wonder what Zoner will come up with to drive himself off the net or, at
least, out of this group.
Allow me to add my bit to the attempt to show Zoner and others like him the error of
his/their ways.
Zoner/John McCoy/Jahnu(das) and our new Islamic fundie (before he even
gets started):
You have all failed! You all come here with the pompous and prideful
intent of converting we atheists to your point of view/religion (that's
at least three religions already), but you have failed before you typed
even one word. None of you has converted anyone through either attempts
at logic or fear. And, the fact that in the end you all attempt to
convert of through attempts to frighten us shows how empty your
so-called
religions really are. It's just a shame that you can't see this and not
force these
horrible beliefs on your own children. I only hope that these children
inherited more intelligence from their mothers and manage to escape the
prison of your beliefs. As for
those of us in this newsgroup or any other atheist newsgroup, you
haven't converted any of us, you have not convinced us that creationism
is a science and you have not turned
any of us away from real science. All in all, you have simply failed
completely, totally
and dismally in your so-called missions. Now, rather than go on whining
and making false accusations against us or declarations of having "won"
something (like what?), please
admit your defeat and slither away. You're not wanted here. You never
were and you still aren't. If you stay, we'll all just treat you as the
sad little boys you are and
stomp on your already pitifully deficient egos.
Michelle Malkin
P.S. You've lost.
Garrison Netzel
On Sun, 11 Aug 1996 23:17:01 MST, zo...@indirect.com wrote...
>Garrison, I think YOU are Brice-ing out, I never said that!
"There is nothing "wrong" with it, are you in favor of censorship on
the internet?" -Zoner to me on 08/11/96
"I have accomplished a LOT! The very fact that I have been able to
lead someone to the Lord makes all of the other garbage worth it." - Zoner to
me on 08/11/96
>You can do whatever you want, and post it all you want, I will never see it,
>so the person you want to hurt the most won't see it. Also, people may
>download it, look at it, laugh, but do you REALLY think that people will
>keep
>it, and keep looking at it, I doubt it. Most people here have better things
>to do, like discuss issues, however you subscribe to hate tactics,
This "hate tactic" was to prove to you that we should NOT be allowed
to do whatever we want to each other on here.
>YOU ARE A LIAR!!!
>
>I NEVER said that my goal was to disrupt you, you are such a liar!
I said to you: "You are intruding into a place where you don't belong
and disrupting normal conversation."
And then you came back with: "And exactly what is that? You discuss
reasons that you don't believe in God? Doesn't sound very interesting."
Sure sounds to me like your proud of yourself.
>Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, at least I don't hide behind aliases like so many here.
A lot of you probably don't understand what he's saying here. Last
night, he accused me of using the alias "Garrison Netzel."
I politely explained to the moron that that's my real name.
>Gee Garrison, ever hear of a killfile? Guess not, you would rather waste
>your
>time as well as everyone else's by spreading your hate, thanks for proving
>to
>everyone that you need God to have genuine love.
You wanna go there, Todd? Fine. I'll post all your Wellington-esque
quotes from your recent emails to me to a new article here, and then I'll
post the true Wellington quotes underneath them. This way, everyone can see
why I judge you to be insane. Not quite insane on the level of Brice, to be
sure, but getting there.
Steve Keppel-Jones
<zo...@indirect.com> wrote:
>
>> But Todd, saving souls is no excuse for bad manners.
>
>Oh yes it is...
No Todd. For the same reason that there is no excuse for standing in a
crowded movie theater and yelling "Fire!", or standing in a crowded church
and yelling "You're all idiots!", you do not have an excuse for coming
here and preaching at us. I realize you think you are saving souls, but
there are no such things. And if there were, they wouldn't need to be saved
from anything. You can certainly attempt to prove the existence of souls
and the need to be saved, but repeating bible quotes is not going to do it.
I'll warn you that people have tried to do this before, unsuccessfully.
What you are doing is bad manners, and you do not have an excuse. Period.
--
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g...@3-cities.com
zo...@indirect.com wrote:
>No, you asked me why I post in alt.atheism, and I said, for the same reason
>Christ spent time with unbelievers while He was on earth, because they needed
>it, no sense preaching to the choir.
Todd sees himself as the JC himself. He comes to alt.atheism to
convert the heathen and heal the sick. He takes abuse as a form of
self-flagellation in penance for his sins.
He would love to have been crucified.
He is jealous of JC for having been the "chosen one" instead of him.
Delusions of grandeur.
>I also never said that I HAD to convert you, I said that if one person comes
>to know the Lord it is worth it, and that if you just couldn't stand reading
>my posts, to put me in your killfile, instead you wig out.
Sounds familiar.
Like a certain THEIST who CAPITALIZES everyother WORD.
>> But Todd, saving souls is no excuse for bad manners.
>Oh yes it is...
Wow.
Guess I should go to Pheonix to shit in Todd's church.
>> But seriously, I tried explaining to him that what he's doing here is
>>rude, flooding newsgroups with off-topic posts which amount to nothing more
>>than bullying.
>And I said that I wasn't bullying,
Bullshit.
>I usually repsond to posts with my
>viewpoint, why can't you handle that?
Bullshit. You only bleat; you don't respond.
>Garrison, I think YOU are Brice-ing out, I never said that!
Yeah Todd. Just like you claimed you "weren't" Todd to Mickey?
>No, I don't want enemies,
Bullshit.
>I just posted an alternative viewpoint,
All you've posted is a proselytizing rants.
>if you got angry, it was YOU, NOT I that started a fight.
No, it was you.
>As I have stated, I have been civil to you in our private
>discussions, and you choose to try and attack me
>personally, instead of discussing issues, how sad.
What's sad is your masochistic need for attention.
>You can do whatever you want, and post it all you want, I will never see it,
>so the person you want to hurt the most won't see it. Also, people may
>download it, look at it, laugh, but do you REALLY think that people will keep
>it, and keep looking at it, I doubt it. Most people here have better things
>to do, like discuss issues,
I guess you'll have alot of time on your hands.
You've never "discussed" issues on this NG.
>however you subscribe to hate tactics, and yeah,
>YOUR world view is the way to go, yeah RIGHT! Hate your neighbor as yourself.
Kind of like implying that someone is a child molester?
>> Well, then I will do whatever I please to YOU.
>Yeah whatever...
Your pat answer to life.
>> Until you admit that the same rules of courtesy that govern the way
>>we interact with each other in society are should govern the way we interact
>>here, I will follow the Stix plan to the letter. I will not take any of your
>>posts seriously, and I will not respond unless to degrade you. That is what
>>you want. That is what you'll get.
>Since when have you ever replied intelligently to my posts?
This must be a tagline for you.
>I was already aware of rudeness on the internet, you and Stix are prime
>examples, I hope both of your mother's are proud!
The only thing you've said about my mother's death:
"Wow, hope she was a Christian!"
>That is not what I want, but if you feel you must be childesh go ahead, and
>waste bandwidth.
Bandwidth?
Please describe how this exists.
You've refuted that scientific concept.
>YOU ARE A LIAR!!!
AND YOU ARE AN ANGRY LIAR!!!
Garrison isn't a liar.
You are.
>I NEVER said that my goal was to disrupt you, you are such a liar!
No, you are.
>> Todd Benzer, dear geek, you should've known better than to post your
>>picture on the internet and then go and make so many enemies. Tsk, tsk.
>Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, at least I don't hide behind aliases like so many here.
Hide? Garrison is his real name.
Zoner your real name and Todd is an imaginary one?
>. I now know you are insane.
>NOT!
Whew!
Killed him with that one Todd.
> I think you need help. I feel sorry
>>for the daughter you're going to damage.
>Yeah, right! She will be better adjusted than you, you have YET to prove any
>maturity, and now you just threw any that you had right out the window. I can
>guarantee that my daughter would never do what you do, thank God!
My hope is that your wrong Todd.
> But there's nothing I can do about
>>that. All I can attempt to do is get you out of my life. And so I begin.
>>Enjoy the ride, Todd.
>Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Real mature Todd.
>Gee Garrison, ever hear of a killfile? Guess not, you would rather waste your
>time as well as everyone else's by spreading your hate, thanks for proving to
>everyone that you need God to have genuine love.
God's love?
Is this the one that eradicates entire races of people for the
Iraelites?
Sounds like your display of "love thy neighbor" is typical of a
hateful and jealous god.
Remember the "turn the cheek" part?
>> For this is what you wanted.
>Nope, I think it is what YOU wanted.
Stinging rebuke Todd!
You've got him on the ropes!!
KILL!!
KILL!!
KILL!!
You know, like your god does.
Geo
"I realized I had misread it after I sent the reply."
- Zoner
Mark Kimes
>>> But Todd, saving souls is no excuse for bad manners.
>> Oh yes it is...
> Wow.
> Guess I should go to Pheonix to shit in Todd's church.
undisclosed soul.
Garrison Netzel
>Todd sees himself as the JC himself. He comes to alt.atheism to
>convert the heathen and heal the sick. He takes abuse as a form of
>self-flagellation in penance for his sins.
Zoner (with echoes of Brice) when I accused him of being a bully:
"Mean??? If you knew the Hell I am trying to lead you away from, you
would cry and thank me for bothering to stick around and take all the abuse!"
Yes, Zoner truly felt he was on a mission to save the world.
Now lets never speak of him again.
Stix
zo...@indirect.com wrote:
Well, if ole Zoney-poo is leaving us, I'd better get a few last digs in......
(interrupting a to-and-fro between Garrison and Toddy-piddler)
(Garrison with two ">>" and piddler with one.)
>> I give up. That's it. I give up. I tried to reason with Zoner
>>through calm, polite email. I really did. But guess what? It didn't work!
>> And do you know why? Because (brace yourself) he's insane!
Insane, stupid, moronic, foolish, retarded, doofus-looking, bible-bleating,
ignorant, rude, dishonest, obnoxious, deluded, twisted, depraved, dense, daft,
incompetant, incoherant, anti-intellectual, deceitful....these adjectives and
more........ :)
>> He is now comparing himself and his mission to that of Jesus Christ.
>> He expresses how he cares so deeply for every one of us that he CAN'T let us
>>discuss atheist issues...for he HAS to convert us.
Shall I be so bold? Yes, why not. I knew Zoner's bleatey little motives from
the moment I read his first reply to someone's response. A god-botherer
through and through.
>No, you asked me why I post in alt.atheism, and I said, for the same reason
>Christ spent time with unbelievers while He was on earth, because they needed
>it, no sense preaching to the choir.
Who the fuck are you to decide *what* we need? Furthermore, who the fuck are
you to claim that we need your biblical fairy-tale? It's crap, idiot.
Many of us have already been through it and rejected it. THAT'S why your smug,
smart-arsed proselytizing bullshit gains you so much contempt. We don't need
nor want your stupid biblical nonsense. Only idiots like you fall for it and
when you have the audacity to barf your nonsense in our newsgroup, it incites
the same anger you'd feel if I took a shit in the middle of your living room.
>I also never said that I HAD to convert you, I said that if one person comes
>to know the Lord it is worth it,
Yeah, fuckstick, *YOU* said "if one person comes to the lawd it's worth it."
No it's NOT worth it. If one atheist resumes belief in biblical nonsense as a
result of your pathetic bleating, you should be beaten to death. It is no
acheivement worthy of pride to make someone reject reality in favour of a
stinking fairy tale that pitiful losers like yourself cling to.
If you want to play Jesus-crusty-ole-christ and go hunting for lost souls to
convert to Idiotism, then do it somewhere else. You were told over and over
that alt.atheism is a place for ATHEISTS who don't believe nor want to believe
in your puerile, infantile garbage.
> and that if you just couldn't stand reading
>my posts, to put me in your killfile, instead you wig out.
Damn straight, dipshit. This is an atheist newsgroup. Why the fuck should we
have to pander to the likes of you at all? What if I came, uninvited into your
home and started abusing you for your poxy beliefs? What if I spat in the
dinner your wife was preparing? Would you just ignore me if I burst into your
home and started pissing on your curtains? Would you feel anger and a desire
for retaliation, or would you meekly turn the other cheek until I'd finished?
>>But Todd, saving souls is no excuse for bad manners.
>Oh yes it is...
See, there you go.
There is no such thing as a soul, buttsmudge, so you have nothing whatsoever
to "save." Besides that, is my desire to ridicule christianic beliefs an
excuse for me to come and defecate on your sofa? You don't want to "save"
anyone from anything. All you want is more idiots who believe the same crap
you do.
>>What is responsible for this bizarre mental state of his? Well, if
>>you add up all the numerical values of the letters in "Zoner" according to
>>the Hebrew alphabet, and then you divide by each consecutive number in the
>>Fibonacci sequence, then convert the quotients into English alphanumerics, it
>>spells "Brice." Coincidence? I think not. Both Zoner and mCcOY are
>>Brice-ing out on us at the same time.
The unholy trinity perhaps? Maybe Brice is actually "god," Mekoy is crusty old
christ, and Zoney-bleatey-toddy-piddler is the holy spirit. (Or is it "holey"
spirit - as in "full of holes?")
Hey Toddy-boy, are you going to check *your* daughter's hymen?
(incidently, I missed Brice when he was active although I've checked out his
bullshit on Psycho Dave's page. I'm afraid I don't find the idea of checking
one's daughters vagina's very amusing at all, and I have to wonder if Brice's
claims were serious - although he *did* sound serious. His daughters were
allegedly in their late-teens/early-twenties, (were they not?) which makes
Brices depraved actions akin to incest rather than child abuse. In any case,
that sort of invasion of the individual - the denial of the right to self
ownership - is one of the few actions that could actually drive me to
literally kill another human being. I abhore rape or sexual molestation of any
kind, especially when directed from an authority figure such as a parent.
If I wasn't stuck on this island I would have entertained hunting Brice down
and giving him an eight-month hospital stint.)
>> But seriously, I tried explaining to him that what he's doing here is
>>rude, flooding newsgroups with off-topic posts which amount to nothing more
>>than bullying.
And let me guess - your attempt at explanation fell on deaf ears?
>And I said that I wasn't bullying, I usually repsond to posts with my
>viewpoint, why can't you handle that?
As has been explained numerous times, if your viewpoint is to respond to any
information with, "you're wrong, god did it all, you'll see when you meet him
face to face yada yada yada," then you are in the WRONG newsgroup.
Mark Idiot (pages@netjerk) at least started on the right foot by leaving the
gleaming-eyes, drooling bleat of "god did it," alone and trying to explain his
views in a coherant manner. Mark's problem is that he already believes he is
right, so he ignores anything that debunks his claims - hence the lack of
responses he gets now.
Your "viewpoint" is not even a viewpoint per se. You just parrot back the same
annoying crap that most atheists have long ago discarded. THAT'S why no-one
takes you seriously.
> I tried to show him that he is only being disruptive to all
>>of us, that "converting heathens" is not what this newsgroup is for.
Sigh. Yes, but try to get it through Toddy-piddlers pointed head......
>> Ah, but alas, he didn't get it. He came down on me for attempting to
>>"censor the internet." He thinks that this is his mission in life, and he is
>>proud of what he's done to this newsgroup.
Pathetic, isn't it?
>Garrison, I think YOU are Brice-ing out, I never said that!
Toddy, how dare you use the words "I" and "think" in the same sentence,
especially when speaking of yourself and especially when you place the words
side by side? You *don't* think, you *parrot* - big difference.
>>So, Zoner, in the spirit of freedom of information, I now post my
>>version of your family portrait. You want enemies? You've got 'em. All's
>>fair from here on out. I now know there's no use trying to reason with you.
>> All you want to do is start fights.
>No, I don't want enemies, I just posted an alternative viewpoint, if you got
>angry, it was YOU, NOT I that started a fight.
No, you *didn't* post an alternative viewpoint. You smugly bleated god
bullshit at us over and over again.
> As I have stated, I have been civil to you in our private discussions,
>and you choose to try and attack me personally, instead of discussing
>issues, how sad.
And your annoying lies about "not discussing issues" is exactly why you've
earned so much contempt. You have *never* discussed any issues. All you've
done is barf annoying god crap, dodged questions, bleated god-nonsense at any
answers, avoided responses that answered the crap you ask, and repeatedly
posted one-line bleats about your imaginary god-thingumy.
>You can do whatever you want, and post it all you want, I will never see it,
>so the person you want to hurt the most won't see it.
How typical. Hide your face in your bible, Toddy - that'll do the trick.
Who cares anyway? We're laughing *at* you, not with you.
> Also, people may download it, look at it, laugh, but do you REALLY
> think that people will keep it, and keep looking at it, I doubt it.
What is that supposed to mean? And who cares?
How many times does someone laugh at the same joke anyway?
If I ask, "What do you call a blonde skeleton in the cupboard?" "Last years
winner for hide-and-seek," it may be funny the frst time, but how many times
would it be funny if it was repeated? As long as people laugh at you once,
Garrison's picture has served its purpose.
>Most people here have better things to do, like discuss issues,
Yes, that's correct. And now that we can be rid of a bleater like you, we can
get back into discussing issues.
>however you subscribe to hate tactics,
Oh, poor Toddy-piddler. You brought the hate and contempt upon yourself, and
you have no-one to blame except yourself.
>and yeah, YOUR world view is the way to go, yeah RIGHT!
Yes, at least you got one thing right. God-thingumy's don't exist and
existence and the universe we perceive is complex and requires a great deal
more thought than the Zoner-bleat, "God did it all....."
>> Well, then I will do whatever I please to YOU.
Me too. Oops, hang on, I've been doing that all along... :)
>>Until you admit that the same rules of courtesy that govern the way
>>we interact with each other in society are should govern the way we interact
>>here, I will follow the Stix plan to the letter.
Ooo. Heh heh. To quote the bloke in the dungeon in "Life of Brian,"
"Nice one centurion, like it, like it!" :)
>> I will not take any of your posts seriously, and I will not respond
>> unless to degrade you. That is what you want. That is what you'll get.
>Since when have you ever replied intelligently to my posts?
Toddy-piddler, you are such lying scum. Almost every single person who has
responded to your UTTER CRAP has responded intelligently at least once.
As soon as your bleatey god-crap is realized as the only noise that's likely
to dribble from the hole beneath your nose, folks realize the utter futility
of intelligent response to you and so resort to flaming. It's the only way to
get the message through your stupid mind. Have you not realized that *you,*
Toddy-piddler, are the only one whingeing about how no-one replies
intelligently to you?
>> I am doing this to illustrate that there IS such a thing as rudeness
>>on the internet. There ARE certain things that we shouldn't be allowed to
>>do. I'm sorry you don't see that. Maybe, given time, you will.
Not likely. Toddy is so certain of his own righteousness that it will *always*
be everyone else's fault except his own.
>I was already aware of rudeness on the internet, you and Stix are prime
>examples, I hope both of your mother's are proud!
You bring it on yourself, fool. I would have been more than happy to engage in
rational discourse about atheism related subjects or to discuss my personal
reasons for rejecting the god-babble, but you keep bleating the same smug
garbage that we all know is utter nonsense. Unless your mother is a frothing
fundie, I doubt she'd be proud of having a mindless, parroting bleater for a
son - my mother on the other hand, although she doesn't agree with me on
certain subjects, is so proud of me it's embarrassing.
>> As long as you continue to flood this newsgroup with
>>bandwidth-wasting one-liners and incessant bullying, ignoring long-standing
>>rules of net conduct, I will fight you in the same way. Fire with fire,
>>water with water. That is what you want.
>That is not what I want, but if you feel you must be childesh go ahead, and
>waste bandwidth.
Your mouth says one thing, but your actions say another - and actions speak
louder than words.
>> If you think all is fair, that anyone should be allowed to do
>>whatever mean, disruptive thing he/she wants, then I'll play your little
>>game. Since I can't tell you how I feel, for you are not intelligent enough
>>to understand, I will have to show you. And I encourage others to do the
>>same. There is no use taking this man seriously. He told me that his only
>>goal here is to disrupt us. This is what he wants.
>YOU ARE A LIAR!!!
>I NEVER said that my goal was to disrupt you, you are such a liar!
No, piddler, *YOU* are a liar. You don't have to actually utter the words, "I
am here to disrupt you," for us to be able to understand your intent. You've
been told over and over that your bleatey god bullshit is disruptive yet you
ignore it. Ignoring it doesn't change it.
As for calling Garrison a liar, fuck you. He is not a liar, nor a hypocrite,
but you are *both.*
>> Todd Benzer, dear geek, you should've known better than to post your
>>picture on the internet and then go and make so many enemies. Tsk, tsk.
>Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, at least I don't hide behind aliases like so many here.
Oh, and "Zoner" is not an alias??
What about when you claimed that your name was *not* Todd Benzer?
Huh? Is that not a lie? Is that not hiding behind an alias? You even claimed
that the photo was not of you. LIAR. What does your god-thingumy say about
lying? Isn't it something like, "let your yays be yays and your nays be nays?"
How about, "thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour?"
Toddy, you're without a doubt on equal footing with Ed Wylot (y'know, Eddy
with the fish <><), just as deluded, just as dishonest and just as pathetic.
>> So in case you haven't gotten it by now, I'll be blunt: I do not
>>like you
(loud voice from back of room) "Me neither!"
>I am sorry you feel that way.
Sure you are. LIAR. If you were sorry people here didn't like you, you had
plenty of time to do something about it. You've brought it on yourself despite
many, many warnings.
>. I now know you are insane.
I hate to quivel, but I don't think he's acutally "insane."
Deluded, definitely. Stupid, undoubtably. A bleater, certainly.
Irrational, indisputably. A complete fuckwit, indomitably.
But insane? Well, second thoughts, he has no grasp of reality so I guess that
*does* qualify as a form of insanity. Hmm, yep OK, I've changed my mind.
I, too, know Toddy-piddler is insane.
>NOT!
ARE TOO!
> I think you need help. I feel sorry
>>for the daughter you're going to damage.
Likewise. It's a sickness that will infect the precious and yet unspoiled mind
of an innocent child. I once made some angry anti-god statements in front of a
young mother who was feeding her seven-year-old god bullshit right in my face.
She told me to stop it because it was her "right" to teach her kid
god-nonsense. I made an analogy and asked her how she'd feel if I had a child
and started giving the child lines of cocaine in front of her. After all it is
my child and my "right" to give my child drugs. She said she would not stand
for it, so my point was made.
Although I am not trying to justify feeding narcotics to a child, (and would
never do it) I see feeding the mental poison of the god-concept to a child as
far, far worse - yet I am expected to sit there and take it without voicing my
disapproval. Fuck that. Cocaine may damage the physical and mental development
of a child, but teaching a child mindless, unsubstantiated god-rubbish
adversely affects the most precious parts of the human being - the mind and
the ability to reason.
Toddy-piddler will steal his daughter's ability to reason at her full
capacity, just to satisfy his own deluded worldview.
>Yeah, right! She will be better adjusted than you, you have YET to prove any
>maturity, and now you just threw any that you had right out the window. I can
>guarantee that my daughter would never do what you do, thank God!
If I had my way, Toddy-boy, you wouldn't have a daughter.
It's sickening. People need a license to own a dog, but any idiot with a penis
can produce a child. I pity your daughter and I hope she has the mental
capacity to reject the mind-numbing garbage that you are feeding her.
It would be poetic justice for her to become an atheist, and just maybe one
day we'll see her writing on the internet, joining ranks with atheists and
abusing the crap out of the theistic morons who stole her ablility to
accurately perceive reality.
>Gee Garrison, ever hear of a killfile? Guess not, you would rather waste your
>time as well as everyone else's by spreading your hate, thanks for proving to
>everyone that you need God to have genuine love.
See, your above smug crap is exactly what has earned you the hatred and
contempt that those who respond demonstrate. There is no god, fuckhead, and
you make yourself look like a impudent, childish fool every time you bleat
about it. I'd sincerely love to spend a few minutes with you in person, Todd.
>>For this is what you wanted.
>Nope, I think it is what YOU wanted.
No, piddler, it's what you've wanted. If you didn't seek the contempt of your
superiors - which we are - you would have heeded the warnings.
ps. If your wife ever wants to experience real sex or at least one orgasm in
her life, send her "Down Under" and I'll fix her up. :)
Stix
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"Nail 'em up I say! Nail some sense into 'em!"
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Garrison Netzel
Stix wrote...
>
>I hate to quivel, but I don't think he's acutally "insane."
>Deluded, definitely. Stupid, undoubtably. A bleater, certainly.
>Irrational, indisputably. A complete fuckwit, indomitably.
>But insane?
Not quite convinced that Zoner is insane? Two of his quotes should
do it:
Me: "Again I ask, why is someone with such a beautiful young daughter so
looking forward to the end of the world?"
Zoner: "Because Heaven is a much better place!"
+++
Zoner on extraterrestrial life: "If aliens do appear, they will undoubtedly
be demons in disguise, don't fall for the trick."
I have yet to encounter one sane person who believes such things and
openly admits it.
As a side note (whine): It's too bad Zoner left when he did. All that time
I spent on "Twilight Zoner 3" had to be sent to data oblivion. Oh well.
Such is life.
--
Garrison Netzel
do...@faribault.polaristel.net
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"And you are unbounded by your world view that is unbounded." - Todd (Zoner)
Benzer 08/12/96