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Mitchell Holman
Nov 6, 2012, 8:34:25 AM11/6/12
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Teens With Lesbian Mothers Do Better In School, Happier In Life
November 5, 2012
LOS ANGELES (CBS Las Vegas) – Teens living in homes
with lesbian mothers are proving to be more successful
in school and generally happier in life.
A new study has found that 17-year-olds with lesbian
mothers had high school GPAs ranging between A-minus
to B-plus, while having strong family bonds with their
mothers, whom the teens consider good role models. The
Williams Institute at UCLA, which conducted "Adolescents
with Lesbian Mothers Describe Their Own Lives," tracked
78 adolescents over a 26-year period.
"These kids were planned and their lesbian mothers were
very engaged in parenting," said Nanette Gartrell, principal
investigator of the study for the Williams Institute. “At
the end of high school, the teens tell us that they have
excellent grades, feel connected to their families and
friends, and admire their parents."
She added: "As a psychiatrist, I can say that these are
the types of child-rearing outcomes that every parent hopes
for."
http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2012/11/05/study-teens-with-lesbian-mothers-
do-better-in-school-happier-in-life/
http://tinyurl.com/ajcsfm3
Jeanne Douglas
Nov 6, 2012, 4:10:48 PM11/6/12
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In article <XnsA1034CDA167F0...@216.196.121.131>,
Was that "J"'s head exploding I just heard?
--
JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
--
JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
ltl...@hotmail.com
Nov 6, 2012, 4:53:14 PM11/6/12
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> do-better-in-school-happier-in-life/
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ajcsfm3
Were the results published by a peer reviewed journal?
Jeanne Douglas
Nov 6, 2012, 6:52:32 PM11/6/12
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In article
<cf779318-e25f-47d0...@3g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
Yes, ti was.
As mentioned in the article, which I'm guessing you didn't bother to
read.
<http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00918369.2012.720499>
Unfortunately, unless you're willing to pay $36, you can only read it by
getting yourself to a college library.
<cf779318-e25f-47d0...@3g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
As mentioned in the article, which I'm guessing you didn't bother to
read.
<http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00918369.2012.720499>
Unfortunately, unless you're willing to pay $36, you can only read it by
getting yourself to a college library.
duke
Nov 7, 2012, 12:08:53 PM11/7/12
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 07:34:25 -0600, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>Teens With Lesbian Mothers Do Better In School, Happier In Life
>November 5, 2012
>
>
>LOS ANGELES (CBS Las Vegas) – Teens living in homes
>with lesbian mothers are proving to be more successful
>in school and generally happier in life.
>
>A new study has found that 17-year-olds with lesbian
>mothers had high school GPAs ranging between A-minus
>to B-plus, while having strong family bonds with their
>mothers, whom the teens consider good role models. The
>Williams Institute at UCLA, which conducted "Adolescents
>with Lesbian Mothers Describe Their Own Lives," tracked
>78 adolescents over a 26-year period.
>
>"These kids were planned and their lesbian mothers were
>very engaged in parenting,"
They don't know who their daddy is.
>
>
>
>Teens With Lesbian Mothers Do Better In School, Happier In Life
>November 5, 2012
>
>
>LOS ANGELES (CBS Las Vegas) – Teens living in homes
>with lesbian mothers are proving to be more successful
>in school and generally happier in life.
>
>A new study has found that 17-year-olds with lesbian
>mothers had high school GPAs ranging between A-minus
>to B-plus, while having strong family bonds with their
>mothers, whom the teens consider good role models. The
>Williams Institute at UCLA, which conducted "Adolescents
>with Lesbian Mothers Describe Their Own Lives," tracked
>78 adolescents over a 26-year period.
>
>"These kids were planned and their lesbian mothers were
>very engaged in parenting,"
The dukester, American - American
********************************************
You can't fix stupid.
********************************************
duke
Nov 7, 2012, 12:09:30 PM11/7/12
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 13:10:48 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
wrote:
>Was that "J"'s head exploding I just heard?
No. I suspect J knows who his daddy is.
wrote:
>Was that "J"'s head exploding I just heard?
W.T.S.
Nov 7, 2012, 1:47:39 PM11/7/12
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In article <5c5l9891mjg5cmmop...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
>
> The pukester, Catholic Stool.
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/c4thugl
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
http://tinyurl.com/7q2ft38
>
http://tinyurl.com/7hk9gk8
>
http://tinyurl.com/ybmwsk4
@cox.net says...
> On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 07:34:25 -0600, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>
> >Teens With Lesbian Mothers Do Better In School, Happier In Life
> >November 5, 2012
> >
> >LOS ANGELES (CBS Las Vegas) ? Teens living in homes
>
> >Teens With Lesbian Mothers Do Better In School, Happier In Life
> >November 5, 2012
> >
> >with lesbian mothers are proving to be more successful
> >in school and generally happier in life.
> >
> >A new study has found that 17-year-olds with lesbian
> >mothers had high school GPAs ranging between A-minus
> >to B-plus, while having strong family bonds with their
> >mothers, whom the teens consider good role models. The
> >Williams Institute at UCLA, which conducted "Adolescents
> >with Lesbian Mothers Describe Their Own Lives," tracked
> >78 adolescents over a 26-year period.
> >
> >"These kids were planned and their lesbian mothers were
> >very engaged in parenting,"
>
> They don't know who their daddy is.
So?
> >in school and generally happier in life.
> >
> >A new study has found that 17-year-olds with lesbian
> >mothers had high school GPAs ranging between A-minus
> >to B-plus, while having strong family bonds with their
> >mothers, whom the teens consider good role models. The
> >Williams Institute at UCLA, which conducted "Adolescents
> >with Lesbian Mothers Describe Their Own Lives," tracked
> >78 adolescents over a 26-year period.
> >
> >"These kids were planned and their lesbian mothers were
> >very engaged in parenting,"
>
> They don't know who their daddy is.
>
> The pukester, Catholic Stool.
> ********************************************
> You can't fix stupid.
> ********************************************
>
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
> You can't fix stupid.
> ********************************************
>
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/c4thugl
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
http://tinyurl.com/7q2ft38
>
http://tinyurl.com/7hk9gk8
>
http://tinyurl.com/ybmwsk4
Paul Duca
Nov 7, 2012, 4:57:37 PM11/7/12
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On Nov 7, 12:08 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 07:34:25 -0600, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>
> >Teens With Lesbian Mothers Do Better In School, Happier In Life
> >November 5, 2012
>
> >LOS ANGELES (CBS Las Vegas) Teens living in homes
> >with lesbian mothers are proving to be more successful
> >in school and generally happier in life.
>
> >A new study has found that 17-year-olds with lesbian
> >mothers had high school GPAs ranging between A-minus
> >to B-plus, while having strong family bonds with their
> >mothers, whom the teens consider good role models. The
> >Williams Institute at UCLA, which conducted "Adolescents
> >with Lesbian Mothers Describe Their Own Lives," tracked
> >78 adolescents over a 26-year period.
>
> >"These kids were planned and their lesbian mothers were
> >very engaged in parenting,"
>
> They don't know who their daddy is.
>
Neither will any child of a woman Duke knocked up and abandoned....
> On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 07:34:25 -0600, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>
> >Teens With Lesbian Mothers Do Better In School, Happier In Life
> >November 5, 2012
>
> >LOS ANGELES (CBS Las Vegas) Teens living in homes
> >with lesbian mothers are proving to be more successful
> >in school and generally happier in life.
>
> >A new study has found that 17-year-olds with lesbian
> >mothers had high school GPAs ranging between A-minus
> >to B-plus, while having strong family bonds with their
> >mothers, whom the teens consider good role models. The
> >Williams Institute at UCLA, which conducted "Adolescents
> >with Lesbian Mothers Describe Their Own Lives," tracked
> >78 adolescents over a 26-year period.
>
> >"These kids were planned and their lesbian mothers were
> >very engaged in parenting,"
>
> They don't know who their daddy is.
>
Paul
Mitchell Holman
Nov 7, 2012, 5:09:15 PM11/7/12
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Paul Duca <paul....@gmail.com> wrote in
news:edd7bfaa-14d2-49dc...@m13g2000vbd.googlegroups.com:
I thought asses were sterile.
news:edd7bfaa-14d2-49dc...@m13g2000vbd.googlegroups.com:
Jeanne Douglas
Nov 7, 2012, 7:08:17 PM11/7/12
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In article <5c5l9891mjg5cmmop...@4ax.com>,
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 07:34:25 -0600, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >Teens With Lesbian Mothers Do Better In School, Happier In Life
> >November 5, 2012
> >
> >
> >LOS ANGELES (CBS Las Vegas) � Teens living in homes
> >with lesbian mothers are proving to be more successful
> >in school and generally happier in life.
> >
> >A new study has found that 17-year-olds with lesbian
> >mothers had high school GPAs ranging between A-minus
> >to B-plus, while having strong family bonds with their
> >mothers, whom the teens consider good role models. The
> >Williams Institute at UCLA, which conducted "Adolescents
> >with Lesbian Mothers Describe Their Own Lives," tracked
> >78 adolescents over a 26-year period.
> >
> >"These kids were planned and their lesbian mothers were
> >very engaged in parenting,"
>
> They don't know who their daddy is.
So?
> On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 07:34:25 -0600, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >Teens With Lesbian Mothers Do Better In School, Happier In Life
> >November 5, 2012
> >
> >
> >LOS ANGELES (CBS Las Vegas) � Teens living in homes
> >with lesbian mothers are proving to be more successful
> >in school and generally happier in life.
> >
> >A new study has found that 17-year-olds with lesbian
> >mothers had high school GPAs ranging between A-minus
> >to B-plus, while having strong family bonds with their
> >mothers, whom the teens consider good role models. The
> >Williams Institute at UCLA, which conducted "Adolescents
> >with Lesbian Mothers Describe Their Own Lives," tracked
> >78 adolescents over a 26-year period.
> >
> >"These kids were planned and their lesbian mothers were
> >very engaged in parenting,"
>
> They don't know who their daddy is.
duke
Nov 8, 2012, 7:01:36 AM11/8/12
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 16:08:17 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
wrote:
You really have no moral code, do you?
wrote:
•R.Measures
Nov 8, 2012, 9:05:47 AM11/8/12
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> On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 07:34:25 -0600, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >Teens With Lesbian Mothers Do Better In School, Happier In Life
> >November 5, 2012
> >
> >
> >LOS ANGELES (CBS Las Vegas) – Teens living in homes
> >with lesbian mothers are proving to be more successful
> >in school and generally happier in life.
> >
> >A new study has found that 17-year-olds with lesbian
> >mothers had high school GPAs ranging between A-minus
> >to B-plus, while having strong family bonds with their
> >mothers, whom the teens consider good role models. The
> >Williams Institute at UCLA, which conducted "Adolescents
> >with Lesbian Mothers Describe Their Own Lives," tracked
> >78 adolescents over a 26-year period.
> >
> >"These kids were planned and their lesbian mothers were
> >very engaged in parenting,"
>
> They don't know who their daddy is.
>
• I know some daddys that did Way more harm than good.
>
> >
> >
> >
> >Teens With Lesbian Mothers Do Better In School, Happier In Life
> >November 5, 2012
> >
> >
> >LOS ANGELES (CBS Las Vegas) – Teens living in homes
> >with lesbian mothers are proving to be more successful
> >in school and generally happier in life.
> >
> >A new study has found that 17-year-olds with lesbian
> >mothers had high school GPAs ranging between A-minus
> >to B-plus, while having strong family bonds with their
> >mothers, whom the teens consider good role models. The
> >Williams Institute at UCLA, which conducted "Adolescents
> >with Lesbian Mothers Describe Their Own Lives," tracked
> >78 adolescents over a 26-year period.
> >
> >"These kids were planned and their lesbian mothers were
> >very engaged in parenting,"
>
> They don't know who their daddy is.
>
duke
Nov 8, 2012, 12:50:00 PM11/8/12
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Jeanne Douglas
Nov 8, 2012, 5:34:48 PM11/8/12
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In article <un7n98hl8st2r5230...@4ax.com>,
life choices are made on the basis of how it will affect the other
people in my life rather than on terror of punishment by some imaginary
(until evidence is provided of its existence) god.
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 16:08:17 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <5c5l9891mjg5cmmop...@4ax.com>,
> > duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 07:34:25 -0600, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Teens With Lesbian Mothers Do Better In School, Happier In Life
> >> >November 5, 2012
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >LOS ANGELES (CBS Las Vegas) – Teens living in homes
> >> >with lesbian mothers are proving to be more successful
> >> >in school and generally happier in life.
> >> >
> >> >A new study has found that 17-year-olds with lesbian
> >> >mothers had high school GPAs ranging between A-minus
> >> >to B-plus, while having strong family bonds with their
> >> >mothers, whom the teens consider good role models. The
> >> >Williams Institute at UCLA, which conducted "Adolescents
> >> >with Lesbian Mothers Describe Their Own Lives," tracked
> >> >78 adolescents over a 26-year period.
> >> >
> >> >"These kids were planned and their lesbian mothers were
> >> >very engaged in parenting,"
> >>
> >> They don't know who their daddy is.
> >So?
>
> You really have no moral code, do you?
Of course I do. And it's a helluva lot more sane than yours because my
> On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 16:08:17 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <5c5l9891mjg5cmmop...@4ax.com>,
> > duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 07:34:25 -0600, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Teens With Lesbian Mothers Do Better In School, Happier In Life
> >> >November 5, 2012
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >LOS ANGELES (CBS Las Vegas) – Teens living in homes
> >> >with lesbian mothers are proving to be more successful
> >> >in school and generally happier in life.
> >> >
> >> >A new study has found that 17-year-olds with lesbian
> >> >mothers had high school GPAs ranging between A-minus
> >> >to B-plus, while having strong family bonds with their
> >> >mothers, whom the teens consider good role models. The
> >> >Williams Institute at UCLA, which conducted "Adolescents
> >> >with Lesbian Mothers Describe Their Own Lives," tracked
> >> >78 adolescents over a 26-year period.
> >> >
> >> >"These kids were planned and their lesbian mothers were
> >> >very engaged in parenting,"
> >>
> >> They don't know who their daddy is.
> >So?
>
> You really have no moral code, do you?
life choices are made on the basis of how it will affect the other
people in my life rather than on terror of punishment by some imaginary
(until evidence is provided of its existence) god.
duke
Nov 9, 2012, 12:08:28 PM11/9/12
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:34:48 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
No, you freeloaders are the selfish ones. My God calls me to love other people,
and SO I DO. Heeheehee.
and SO I DO. Heeheehee.
Jeanne Douglas
Nov 9, 2012, 8:51:29 PM11/9/12
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In article <r2eq981tde6iejcpq...@4ax.com>,
And I love other people without the threat of a hell hanging over my
head if I don't.
That makes me the better person.
head if I don't.
That makes me the better person.
Malygris
Nov 10, 2012, 3:20:20 AM11/10/12
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group.
> That makes me the better person.
--
Malygris
Jeanne Douglas
Nov 10, 2012, 3:34:14 AM11/10/12
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In article <ag6h21...@mid.individual.net>,
To be honest, I sometimes end it with a <tee hee> or a <giggle> or a
hearty BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
hearty BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
Malygris
Nov 10, 2012, 3:39:12 AM11/10/12
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--
Malygris
Jeanne Douglas
Nov 10, 2012, 3:43:33 AM11/10/12
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In article <ag6i5e...@mid.individual.net>,
I try.
If nothing else, being honest means not having to waste time keeping
track of the lies.
If nothing else, being honest means not having to waste time keeping
track of the lies.
Dakota
Nov 10, 2012, 4:06:49 AM11/10/12
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Jeanne Douglas
Nov 10, 2012, 5:33:48 AM11/10/12
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In article <k7l5eu$vbf$2...@dont-email.me>, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
wrote:
Of course, if you're Romney you don't even have the decency to pretend
to be embarrassed when caught in his lies.
wrote:
to be embarrassed when caught in his lies.
duke
Nov 10, 2012, 8:57:47 AM11/10/12
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On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:51:29 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
wrote:
>> >Of course I do. And it's a helluva lot more sane than yours because my
>> >life choices are made on the basis of how it will affect the other
>> >people in my life rather than on terror of punishment by some imaginary
>> >(until evidence is provided of its existence) god.
>> No, you freeloaders are the selfish ones. My God calls me to love other
>> people,
>> and SO I DO. Heeheehee.
>And I love other people without the threat of a hell hanging over my
>head if I don't.
God determines that. You can't escape the judgment. So you just hide and hope
the boogie man goes away.
>That makes me the better person.
wrote:
>> >Of course I do. And it's a helluva lot more sane than yours because my
>> >life choices are made on the basis of how it will affect the other
>> >people in my life rather than on terror of punishment by some imaginary
>> >(until evidence is provided of its existence) god.
>> No, you freeloaders are the selfish ones. My God calls me to love other
>> people,
>> and SO I DO. Heeheehee.
>And I love other people without the threat of a hell hanging over my
>head if I don't.
the boogie man goes away.
>That makes me the better person.
duke
Nov 10, 2012, 8:59:22 AM11/10/12
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them, but alas, I can drag them to the water but I can't make them drink.
>> That makes me the better person.
>Also, you don't end your posts with things like "Heeheehee."!
duke
Nov 10, 2012, 8:59:58 AM11/10/12
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duke
Nov 10, 2012, 9:00:48 AM11/10/12
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Andrew W
Nov 10, 2012, 4:10:27 PM11/10/12
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:afns98114n4bl60gj...@4ax.com
Hoodwinked sheeple are never aware of the lies they propagate for their
religion/cult.
--
Religions breed hypocrisy and self-righteousness.
Many Christians spend more time looking down on other people than up
towards Christ.
news:afns98114n4bl60gj...@4ax.com
religion/cult.
--
Religions breed hypocrisy and self-righteousness.
Many Christians spend more time looking down on other people than up
towards Christ.
Andrew W
Nov 10, 2012, 4:12:16 PM11/10/12
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:33ns98hkbe6f2bo56...@4ax.com
> On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:51:29 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
> <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Of course I do. And it's a helluva lot more sane than yours
>>>> because my life choices are made on the basis of how it will
>>>> affect the other people in my life rather than on terror of
>>>> punishment by some imaginary (until evidence is provided of its
>>>> existence) god.
>
>>> No, you freeloaders are the selfish ones. My God calls me to love
>>> other people,
>>> and SO I DO. Heeheehee.
>
>> And I love other people without the threat of a hell hanging over my
>> head if I don't.
>
> God determines that. You can't escape the judgment. So you just
> hide and hope the boogie man goes away.
>
There is no boogie man, little child.
> <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Of course I do. And it's a helluva lot more sane than yours
>>>> because my life choices are made on the basis of how it will
>>>> affect the other people in my life rather than on terror of
>>>> punishment by some imaginary (until evidence is provided of its
>>>> existence) god.
>
>>> No, you freeloaders are the selfish ones. My God calls me to love
>>> other people,
>>> and SO I DO. Heeheehee.
>
>> And I love other people without the threat of a hell hanging over my
>> head if I don't.
>
> God determines that. You can't escape the judgment. So you just
> hide and hope the boogie man goes away.
>
Jeanne Douglas
Nov 10, 2012, 4:56:42 PM11/10/12
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In article <33ns98hkbe6f2bo56...@4ax.com>,
conversation.
And, besides, it was my brother who was afraid of the boogie man, not
me. To this day, he can't go to sleep unless the closet door is closed.
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:51:29 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> >Of course I do. And it's a helluva lot more sane than yours because my
> >> >life choices are made on the basis of how it will affect the other
> >> >people in my life rather than on terror of punishment by some imaginary
> >> >(until evidence is provided of its existence) god.
>
> >> No, you freeloaders are the selfish ones. My God calls me to love other
> >> people,
> >> and SO I DO. Heeheehee.
>
> >And I love other people without the threat of a hell hanging over my
> >head if I don't.
>
> God determines that. You can't escape the judgment. So you just hide and
> hope
> the boogie man goes away.
Boogie man? What boogie man? Why are you bringing boogie men into the
> On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:51:29 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> >Of course I do. And it's a helluva lot more sane than yours because my
> >> >life choices are made on the basis of how it will affect the other
> >> >people in my life rather than on terror of punishment by some imaginary
> >> >(until evidence is provided of its existence) god.
>
> >> No, you freeloaders are the selfish ones. My God calls me to love other
> >> people,
> >> and SO I DO. Heeheehee.
>
> >And I love other people without the threat of a hell hanging over my
> >head if I don't.
>
> God determines that. You can't escape the judgment. So you just hide and
> hope
> the boogie man goes away.
conversation.
And, besides, it was my brother who was afraid of the boogie man, not
me. To this day, he can't go to sleep unless the closet door is closed.
duke
Nov 11, 2012, 9:36:09 AM11/11/12
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:10:27 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:afns98114n4bl60gj...@4ax.com
>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 03:06:49 -0600, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/10/2012 2:43 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>> In article <ag6i5e...@mid.individual.net>,
>>>> Malygris <Highlan...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <ag6h21...@mid.individual.net>,
>>>>>> Malygris <Highlan...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I try.
>>>>
>>>> If nothing else, being honest means not having to waste time keeping
>>>> track of the lies.
>>>>
>>> Honest is the best policy for that very reason.
>>
>> My posts are very easy. I never lie on the ng.
>>
>
>Hoodwinked sheeple are never aware of the lies they propagate for their
>religion/cult.
That's right. You are an excellent example of that.
wrote:
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:afns98114n4bl60gj...@4ax.com
>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 03:06:49 -0600, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/10/2012 2:43 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>> In article <ag6i5e...@mid.individual.net>,
>>>> Malygris <Highlan...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <ag6h21...@mid.individual.net>,
>>>>>> Malygris <Highlan...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I try.
>>>>
>>>> If nothing else, being honest means not having to waste time keeping
>>>> track of the lies.
>>>>
>>> Honest is the best policy for that very reason.
>>
>> My posts are very easy. I never lie on the ng.
>>
>
>Hoodwinked sheeple are never aware of the lies they propagate for their
>religion/cult.
duke
Nov 11, 2012, 9:36:39 AM11/11/12
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:12:16 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:33ns98hkbe6f2bo56...@4ax.com
>> On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:51:29 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
>> <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Of course I do. And it's a helluva lot more sane than yours
>>>>> because my life choices are made on the basis of how it will
>>>>> affect the other people in my life rather than on terror of
>>>>> punishment by some imaginary (until evidence is provided of its
>>>>> existence) god.
>>
>>>> No, you freeloaders are the selfish ones. My God calls me to love
>>>> other people,
>>>> and SO I DO. Heeheehee.
>>
>>> And I love other people without the threat of a hell hanging over my
>>> head if I don't.
>> God determines that. You can't escape the judgment. So you just
>> hide and hope the boogie man goes away.
>There is no boogie man, little child.
Yet you keep hiding in the closet.
wrote:
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:33ns98hkbe6f2bo56...@4ax.com
>> On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:51:29 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
>> <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Of course I do. And it's a helluva lot more sane than yours
>>>>> because my life choices are made on the basis of how it will
>>>>> affect the other people in my life rather than on terror of
>>>>> punishment by some imaginary (until evidence is provided of its
>>>>> existence) god.
>>
>>>> No, you freeloaders are the selfish ones. My God calls me to love
>>>> other people,
>>>> and SO I DO. Heeheehee.
>>
>>> And I love other people without the threat of a hell hanging over my
>>> head if I don't.
>> God determines that. You can't escape the judgment. So you just
>> hide and hope the boogie man goes away.
>There is no boogie man, little child.
duke
Nov 11, 2012, 9:37:04 AM11/11/12
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 13:56:42 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
wrote:
>In article <33ns98hkbe6f2bo56...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:51:29 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >> >Of course I do. And it's a helluva lot more sane than yours because my
>> >> >life choices are made on the basis of how it will affect the other
>> >> >people in my life rather than on terror of punishment by some imaginary
>> >> >(until evidence is provided of its existence) god.
>>
>> >> No, you freeloaders are the selfish ones. My God calls me to love other
>> >> people,
>> >> and SO I DO. Heeheehee.
>>
>> >And I love other people without the threat of a hell hanging over my
>> >head if I don't.
>>
>> God determines that. You can't escape the judgment. So you just hide and
>> hope
>> the boogie man goes away.
>
>Boogie man? What boogie man? Why are you bringing boogie men into the
>conversation.
>
>And, besides, it was my brother who was afraid of the boogie man, not
>me. To this day, he can't go to sleep unless the closet door is closed.
Becasue that's what you and aw believe in.
>In article <33ns98hkbe6f2bo56...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:51:29 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >> >Of course I do. And it's a helluva lot more sane than yours because my
>> >> >life choices are made on the basis of how it will affect the other
>> >> >people in my life rather than on terror of punishment by some imaginary
>> >> >(until evidence is provided of its existence) god.
>>
>> >> No, you freeloaders are the selfish ones. My God calls me to love other
>> >> people,
>> >> and SO I DO. Heeheehee.
>>
>> >And I love other people without the threat of a hell hanging over my
>> >head if I don't.
>>
>> God determines that. You can't escape the judgment. So you just hide and
>> hope
>> the boogie man goes away.
>
>Boogie man? What boogie man? Why are you bringing boogie men into the
>conversation.
>
>And, besides, it was my brother who was afraid of the boogie man, not
>me. To this day, he can't go to sleep unless the closet door is closed.
Jeanne Douglas
Nov 11, 2012, 6:42:11 PM11/11/12
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In article <vvdv98t0quke64h9q...@4ax.com>,
Who the hell is aw?
And how does my brother's amusing phobia have anything to do with what I
believe?
And how does my brother's amusing phobia have anything to do with what I
believe?
duke
Nov 12, 2012, 8:40:31 AM11/12/12
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:42:11 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
<sigh> Intelligent discussion is impossible.
Sleepalot
Nov 12, 2012, 9:25:19 AM11/12/12
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"ltl...@hotmail.com" <ltl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On 11?6?, ??8?34?, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>> Teens With Lesbian Mothers Do Better In School, Happier In Life
>> November 5, 2012
>>
>> LOS ANGELES (CBS Las Vegas) Teens living in homes
>> with lesbian mothers are proving to be more successful
>> in school and generally happier in life.
>>
>> A new study has found that 17-year-olds with lesbian
>> mothers had high school GPAs ranging between A-minus
>> to B-plus, while having strong family bonds with their
>> mothers, whom the teens consider good role models. The
>> Williams Institute at UCLA, which conducted "Adolescents
>> with Lesbian Mothers Describe Their Own Lives," tracked
>> 78 adolescents over a 26-year period.
>>
>> "These kids were planned and their lesbian mothers were
>> very engaged in parenting," said Nanette Gartrell, principal
>> investigator of the study for the Williams Institute. At
>> the end of high school, the teens tell us that they have
>> excellent grades, feel connected to their families and
>> friends, and admire their parents."
>>
>> She added: "As a psychiatrist, I can say that these are
>> the types of child-rearing outcomes that every parent hopes
>> for."
>>
>> http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2012/11/05/study-teens-with-lesbian-moth...
>> do-better-in-school-happier-in-life/
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/ajcsfm3
>
>Were the results published by a peer reviewed journal?
That's not the right question. All sorts of rubbish gets published.
>On 11?6?, ??8?34?, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>> Teens With Lesbian Mothers Do Better In School, Happier In Life
>> November 5, 2012
>>
>> LOS ANGELES (CBS Las Vegas) Teens living in homes
>> with lesbian mothers are proving to be more successful
>> in school and generally happier in life.
>>
>> A new study has found that 17-year-olds with lesbian
>> mothers had high school GPAs ranging between A-minus
>> to B-plus, while having strong family bonds with their
>> mothers, whom the teens consider good role models. The
>> Williams Institute at UCLA, which conducted "Adolescents
>> with Lesbian Mothers Describe Their Own Lives," tracked
>> 78 adolescents over a 26-year period.
>>
>> "These kids were planned and their lesbian mothers were
>> investigator of the study for the Williams Institute. At
>> the end of high school, the teens tell us that they have
>> excellent grades, feel connected to their families and
>> friends, and admire their parents."
>>
>> She added: "As a psychiatrist, I can say that these are
>> the types of child-rearing outcomes that every parent hopes
>> for."
>>
>> http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2012/11/05/study-teens-with-lesbian-moth...
>> do-better-in-school-happier-in-life/
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/ajcsfm3
>
>Were the results published by a peer reviewed journal?
That's not the right question. All sorts of rubbish gets published.
Sleepalot
Nov 12, 2012, 9:44:53 AM11/12/12
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Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>Lesbians Make Better Babies
>Teens With Lesbian Mothers Do Better In School, Happier In Life
>Teens living in homes with lesbian mothers are (...) more successful
(or at least unsupported by the paper).
A statistical study _cannot prove your hypothesis_, it can only disprove the
null hypothesis (ie that there is no effect). So all the statements above
would only be correct if they included a term for probability or a conditional.
There are many ways of getting your study to disprove the null: there's a whole
book on the subject - "How to Lie with Statistics".
----------------
The following speaks to the quality of the methods employed.
>17-year-olds with lesbian mothers had high school GPAs ranging between
> A-minus to B-plus,
That's a question of fact. How was that fact established?
>the teens tell us that they have excellent grades(...)
Ah, in the least reliable way.
>Lesbians Make Better Babies
>Teens With Lesbian Mothers Do Better In School, Happier In Life
>in school and generally happier in life.
No two of those three statements are equivalent, and all three are wrong
(or at least unsupported by the paper).
A statistical study _cannot prove your hypothesis_, it can only disprove the
null hypothesis (ie that there is no effect). So all the statements above
would only be correct if they included a term for probability or a conditional.
There are many ways of getting your study to disprove the null: there's a whole
book on the subject - "How to Lie with Statistics".
----------------
The following speaks to the quality of the methods employed.
>17-year-olds with lesbian mothers had high school GPAs ranging between
> A-minus to B-plus,
>the teens tell us that they have excellent grades(...)
Ah, in the least reliable way.
Dakota
Nov 12, 2012, 11:16:13 AM11/12/12
to
suggest that the conclusions be viewed with skepticism.
The study report includes the following:
At T5, the mean age of the index offspring was 17.05 years (SD = .36;
range 16–18 years), and the mean age of the mothers was 52.30 years
(SD =3.99, range 44–61 years). The ethnic and racial composition of
the T5 adolescent sample was 87.1% (n = 68) White or Caucasian, 3.8%
(n = 3) Latino or Latina, 2.6% (n = 2) African American, 2.6% (n = 2)
Asian or Pacific Islander, 1.3% (n = 1) Armenian, 1.3% (n = 1)
Lebanese, and 1.3% (n = 1) Native American.
At T5, the family constellations consisted of 31 continuously
coupled, 40 separated-mother, and 6 single-mother families. Of the
73 couples who were co-parenting when the index offspring were born,
56% had separated, and the average age of the index offspring at the
time of their mothers’ separation was 6.97 years (SD = 4.42 years).
At the time of enrollment, the participating families lived within 200
miles of Boston, Washington, DC, or San Francisco (Gartrell et al.,
1996, 1999), but many have relocated. At T5, the families were
residing in large urban communities, midsized towns, and rural areas
of the northeastern (47%), southern (9%), Midwestern (1%), and western
(43%) regions of the United States (Gartrell &
Bos, 2010). Based on the Hollingshead Index (using the parent with the
highest occupation and education to calculate socioeconomic status),
82% (n =63) of the T5 NLLFS families are middle- or upper-middle class
(Gartrell et al., 2010)
Strengths and Limitations
A strength of the NLLFS is that it is a prospective, longitudinal
study with a very high retention rate. Since the mothers enrolled in
the NLLFS before the index offspring were born, the results of the
present investigation are not skewed by overrepresentation of families
who volunteer because their adolescents are already doing well. In
addition, the data were gathered through confidential adolescent
self-reports, increasing the likelihood of candor on
sensitive topics such as mental health problems. Finally, the use of
qualitative research questions makes it possible to have a broader and
more nuanced perspective on lesbian family life through the narrations
provided by the adolescent offspring.
Along with these strengths, the present study has several limitations.
First, sensitivity to cultural homophobia may have motivated some
NLLFS offspring to be particularly affirming of their mothers when
asked to assess their parenting (Kuvalanka & Goldberg, 2009). Also,
because it is a nonrandom sample, the findings may not be
representative of the population of adolescents with LG parents as a
whole. In addition, this study bears repeating with a larger, more
demographically diverse sample that includes gay fathers and adoptive
LG parents. Finally, despite being the largest, longestrunning
prospective American study of same-sex parent families, the study
would be strengthened by comparing the responses of the NLLFS
adolescents with those of a matched sample of adolescents from
heterosexual-parent households.
http://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/nllfs-adolescents-with-lesbian-mothers-2012.pdf
Sleepalot
Nov 13, 2012, 2:02:35 PM11/13/12
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Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>On 11/12/2012 8:44 AM, Sleepalot wrote:
>> Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Lesbians Make Better Babies
>>
>>> Teens With Lesbian Mothers Do Better In School, Happier In Life
>>
>>> Teens living in homes with lesbian mothers are (...) more successful
>>> in school and generally happier in life.
>>
>> No two of those three statements are equivalent, and all three are wrong
>> (or at least unsupported by the paper).
>>
>> A statistical study _cannot prove your hypothesis_, it can only disprove the
>> null hypothesis (ie that there is no effect). So all the statements above
>> would only be correct if they included a term for probability or a conditional.
>>
>> There are many ways of getting your study to disprove the null: there's a whole
>> book on the subject - "How to Lie with Statistics".
>>
>> ----------------
>>
>> The following speaks to the quality of the methods employed.
>>
>>> 17-year-olds with lesbian mothers had high school GPAs ranging between
>>> A-minus to B-plus,
>>
>> That's a question of fact. How was that fact established?
>>
>>> the teens tell us that they have excellent grades(...)
>>
>> Ah, in the least reliable way.
>>
>The small sample size and limited demographic distribution strongly
>suggest that the conclusions be viewed with skepticism.
Thanks for your follow-up. They might as well have said "our study is invalid".
>On 11/12/2012 8:44 AM, Sleepalot wrote:
>> Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Lesbians Make Better Babies
>>
>>> Teens With Lesbian Mothers Do Better In School, Happier In Life
>>
>>> Teens living in homes with lesbian mothers are (...) more successful
>>> in school and generally happier in life.
>>
>> No two of those three statements are equivalent, and all three are wrong
>> (or at least unsupported by the paper).
>>
>> A statistical study _cannot prove your hypothesis_, it can only disprove the
>> null hypothesis (ie that there is no effect). So all the statements above
>> would only be correct if they included a term for probability or a conditional.
>>
>> There are many ways of getting your study to disprove the null: there's a whole
>> book on the subject - "How to Lie with Statistics".
>>
>> ----------------
>>
>> The following speaks to the quality of the methods employed.
>>
>>> 17-year-olds with lesbian mothers had high school GPAs ranging between
>>> A-minus to B-plus,
>>
>> That's a question of fact. How was that fact established?
>>
>>> the teens tell us that they have excellent grades(...)
>>
>> Ah, in the least reliable way.
>>
>The small sample size and limited demographic distribution strongly
>suggest that the conclusions be viewed with skepticism.
What they are saying is, they took a whole bunch data about a few individuals
and mined it for correlations.
If you do 20 correlation searches, you can _expect_ one correlation to appear
_by chance_.
That should've been sufficient cause to reject this paper: it's not science.
Alan Ferris
Nov 15, 2012, 2:03:19 PM11/15/12
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 07:40:31 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
><sigh> Intelligent discussion is impossible.
You prove that daily. So what is your excuse for being so stupid?
><sigh> Intelligent discussion is impossible.
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"duke:No Catholic has told me I'm wrong.
Bullshit, Earl and you know it. At the very least Scoutlady and I
have both said that you're scum, and those are only the people I can
think of off the top of my head."
"You embarrass me, Earl. If the Church were even halfway what your
example presents it to be, I'd have left a long time ago."
- Fr R Dye
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Brian E. Clark
Nov 15, 2012, 6:24:17 PM11/15/12
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In article <XnsA1034CDA167F0nomailverizonnet@
216.196.121.131>, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net>
says...
> Subject: Lesbians Make Better Babies
Loving parents make for happier children, whether those
parents are gay or straight.
That, of course is the rub: Christian zealots insist that
denying a child an upbringing by hetero parents by
definition denies that child a chance at a happy home. But
just the opposite seems to be true: it seems that many/most
gay couples don't undertake parental duty until they're
mature enough and financially stable enough to do the job
right.
--
-----------
Brian E. Clark
216.196.121.131>, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net>
says...
> Subject: Lesbians Make Better Babies
Loving parents make for happier children, whether those
parents are gay or straight.
That, of course is the rub: Christian zealots insist that
denying a child an upbringing by hetero parents by
definition denies that child a chance at a happy home. But
just the opposite seems to be true: it seems that many/most
gay couples don't undertake parental duty until they're
mature enough and financially stable enough to do the job
right.
--
-----------
Brian E. Clark
•RLMeasures
Dec 1, 2012, 3:32:47 PM12/1/12
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In article <c5sn98pt9854olvem...@4ax.com>, duke
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 06:05:47 -0800, r...@somis.org (•R.Measures) wrote:
>
> >In article <5c5l9891mjg5cmmop...@4ax.com>, duke
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >LOS ANGELES (CBS Las Vegas) – Teens living in homes
> >> >with lesbian mothers are proving to be more successful
>
> And Junior doesn't know daddy's background.
>
• Some do, some do not.
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 06:05:47 -0800, r...@somis.org (•R.Measures) wrote:
>
> >In article <5c5l9891mjg5cmmop...@4ax.com>, duke
> ><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 07:34:25 -0600, Mitchell Holman
<nomailverizon.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >> On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 07:34:25 -0600, Mitchell Holman
<nomailverizon.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Teens With Lesbian Mothers Do Better In School, Happier In Life
> >> >November 5, 2012
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >LOS ANGELES (CBS Las Vegas) – Teens living in homes
> >> >with lesbian mothers are proving to be more successful
> >> >in school and generally happier in life.
> >> >
> >> >A new study has found that 17-year-olds with lesbian
> >> >
> >> >mothers had high school GPAs ranging between A-minus
> >> >to B-plus, while having strong family bonds with their
> >> >mothers, whom the teens consider good role models. The
> >> >Williams Institute at UCLA, which conducted "Adolescents
> >> >with Lesbian Mothers Describe Their Own Lives," tracked
> >> >78 adolescents over a 26-year period.
> >> >
> >> >"These kids were planned and their lesbian mothers were
> >> >very engaged in parenting,"
> >>
> >> >mothers, whom the teens consider good role models. The
> >> >Williams Institute at UCLA, which conducted "Adolescents
> >> >with Lesbian Mothers Describe Their Own Lives," tracked
> >> >78 adolescents over a 26-year period.
> >> >
> >> >"These kids were planned and their lesbian mothers were
> >> >very engaged in parenting,"
> >>
> >> They don't know who their daddy is.
> >>
> >• I know some daddys that did Way more harm than good.
> >>
>
> And Junior doesn't know daddy's background.
>
• Some do, some do not.
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