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Misc

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Nov 22, 2009, 6:27:01 PM11/22/09
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I've read many posts from Atheists about how people have tried to
"force" their religion on them. When I ask for an example they often
mention a "horrifying" encounter with two old, Jehovah Witness biddies
who accosted them, by knocking on their door.

Here's some advice: Grow a set of cajones (literally if you claim to
be a man).

I mean, good golly people, they're a nuisance -- I get it -- but does
a 55 year-old-man need to visit a shrink and wet his bed at night
because of the horror of two old biddies from the Jehovah's Witnesses
knocking on his door?

As a public service to Atheists, here's how to handle the situation
without going weak in the knees. Say: "No thank you, I'm not
interested." If they still won't go away, say it again and firmly
close the door.

Enjoy the rest of your life.

Robibnikoff

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Nov 22, 2009, 6:47:00 PM11/22/09
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"Misc" <a...@aliencreeps.com> wrote

FOAD, bullshit artist.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & Belly Dancer Supreme
BAAWA Knight
#1557


JTEM

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Nov 22, 2009, 6:49:50 PM11/22/09
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Misc <a...@aliencreeps.com> wrote:

> I've read many posts from Atheists about how people
> have tried to "force" their religion on them.

You have a lot of free time, apparently.

> When I ask for an example they often
> mention a "horrifying" encounter with two old,
> Jehovah Witness biddies who accosted them, by
> knocking on their door.

Your "horrifying" is in quotes. Who is it, exactly,
that described such an encounter as "horrifying"?

> Here's some advice:

No thanks, I've got some already.

> I mean, good golly people, they're a nuisance

Yes they are. And extremely rude. All
proselytizing is based on rudeness, on seeing
other people as beneath you.

You're doing to them what you would never accept
yourself -- telling them that their beliefs are
wrong, that they don't matter.

The average "Christian" loses bladder control
when you tell them that it's wrong to use
government money to promote their beliefs, as in
the form of a Christmas nativity scene, or a
2-ton version of the Ten Commandments. Yet they
think nothing of shitting on each others beliefs,
never mind what atheists do or do not believe.

They're forever trying to "Recruit" each other,
"Save" them from their "Wrong" religion.

It's just plain disrespectful.


--
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Mitchell Holman

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Nov 22, 2009, 10:24:20 PM11/22/09
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Misc <a...@aliencreeps.com> wrote in news:b60ad6b9-90cf-4cef-80c4-
07ba79...@j35g2000vbl.googlegroups.com:

> I've read many posts from Atheists about how people have tried to
> "force" their religion on them.

Let's start by taking "God" off our money, out
of the Pledge of Allegiance and insist that churches
pay the taxes that the rest of us do.

Free Lunch

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Nov 22, 2009, 10:28:44 PM11/22/09
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:24:20 -0600, Mitchell Holman
<noe...@comcast.net> wrote in alt.atheism:

I just want a slightly more accurate phrase on our currency.

"The God we Trust"

Mitchell Holman

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:29:49 AM11/23/09
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Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
news:8a0kg5ldr00rffpcu...@4ax.com:


"The God We Used To Trust"


Les Hellawell

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:11:24 AM11/23/09
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:49:50 -0800 (PST), JTEM <jte...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> Misc <a...@aliencreeps.com> wrote:
>
>> I've read many posts from Atheists about how people
>> have tried to "force" their religion on them.
>
>You have a lot of free time, apparently.

And we are only about 7% of the population of
the USA, so we are told.


--
Les Hellawell
Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County

Les Hellawell

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:13:24 AM11/23/09
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:28:44 -0600, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:

How about, "Our misplaced trust"

Better, and more accurate, "In ourselves we trust"

The essence of true democracy.

Jimbo

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:18:46 AM11/23/09
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On Nov 22, 6:27 pm, Misc <a...@aliencreeps.com> wrote:
> I've read many posts from Atheists about how people have tried to
> "force" their religion on them.  When I ask for an example they often
> mention a "horrifying" encounter with two old, Jehovah Witness biddies
> who accosted them, by knocking on their door.

That's what court orders are for. When you are told not to come back,
that should be a really good clue that you don't want to see them
again. It's not that they simply knock on the door, I had one of the
"little darlings" actually shove her foot in the door to prevent me
from closing it. They are rude little bitches.

Jimbo

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:19:12 AM11/23/09
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On Nov 22, 10:24 pm, Mitchell Holman <noem...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Misc <a...@aliencreeps.com> wrote in news:b60ad6b9-90cf-4cef-80c4-
> 07ba795bd...@j35g2000vbl.googlegroups.com:

>
> > I've read many posts from Atheists about how people have tried to
> > "force" their religion on them.  
>
>     Let's start by taking "God" off our money, out
> of the Pledge of Allegiance and insist that churches
> pay the taxes that the rest of us do.

Sounds good to me.

Jimbo

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:20:12 AM11/23/09
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On Nov 23, 8:13 am, Les Hellawell <l...@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:28:44 -0600, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:24:20 -0600, Mitchell Holman
> ><noem...@comcast.net> wrote in alt.atheism:

>
> >>Misc <a...@aliencreeps.com> wrote in news:b60ad6b9-90cf-4cef-80c4-
> >>07ba795bd...@j35g2000vbl.googlegroups.com:

>
> >>> I've read many posts from Atheists about how people have tried to
> >>> "force" their religion on them.  
>
> >>    Let's start by taking "God" off our money, out
> >>of the Pledge of Allegiance and insist that churches
> >>pay the taxes that the rest of us do.
>
> >I just want a slightly more accurate phrase on our currency.
>
> >"The God we Trust"
>
> How about, "Our misplaced trust"

How about just "E Pluribus Unum", as the founding fathers intended?

Free Lunch

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:56:46 PM11/23/09
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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:20:12 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdb...@gmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism:

Because God is really, really, really important to further political
nonsense.

Lord Calvert

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Nov 23, 2009, 7:17:25 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23, 6:56 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:20:12 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com>

It really shows that they have very little faith in the power of God
but a great deal of faith in the power of big-government. Without
government sponsorship, their faith is meaningless. It would be forced
to subsist on its own resources, something it cannot do.


Rich Goranson
Amherst, NY, USA
aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1
EAC Department of Paranormal Phychology

Jimbo

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:54:17 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23, 6:56 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:20:12 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com>
> nonsense.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I've always found it rather odd that if money is the root of all evil,
why plaster their god's name on it?

Jimbo

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:55:45 PM11/23/09
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> EAC Department of Paranormal Phychology- Hide quoted text -


I quite agree. No big government for you unless it serves our god's
purpose! (Which conveniently is always the purpose of the religious
fanatics as well.)

Don Martin

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Nov 27, 2009, 7:28:53 PM11/27/09
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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:54:17 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdb...@gmail.com> wrote:

>I've always found it rather odd that if money is the root of all evil,
>why plaster their god's name on it?

While I, too, would get rid of religious advertising on the currency, I must
protest at your quotation--it is not money that is the root of all evil, but the
_love_ of money that is. ISTR the Latin as "radix malorum est cupiditas."

Come to think of it, gods aren't the root of the evil, either, but the love of
gods by the faithful that does the dirty work.

-

aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
The Squeeky Wheel: http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/

hypa...@comcast.net

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Nov 27, 2009, 9:40:57 PM11/27/09
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On Nov 23, 12:29 am, Mitchell Holman <noem...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote innews:8a0kg5ldr00rffpcu...@4ax.com:

>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:24:20 -0600, Mitchell Holman
> > <noem...@comcast.net> wrote in alt.atheism:

>
> >>Misc <a...@aliencreeps.com> wrote in news:b60ad6b9-90cf-4cef-80c4-
> >>07ba795bd...@j35g2000vbl.googlegroups.com:

>
> >>> I've read many posts from Atheists about how people have tried to
> >>> "force" their religion on them.  
>
> >>    Let's start by taking "God" off our money, out
> >>of the Pledge of Allegiance and insist that churches
> >>pay the taxes that the rest of us do.
>
> > I just want a slightly more accurate phrase on our currency.
>
> > "The God we Trust"
>
>    "The God We Used To Trust"

Hells with that. I want E Pluribus Unum back.
It's what the Founders chose and it makes
much more sense - Out of many one -
meaning: out of many states one country.

hypa...@comcast.net

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Nov 27, 2009, 9:50:04 PM11/27/09
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I got really angry at one of them once. She was dragging her
daughter,who looked like she was about ten, around with her.
The kid was bright-eyed and curious; the mother looked like
she was on drugs. I ripped into her before she could start her
schpiel about "How dare you drag this poor child around from
door to door when she should be out playing with other children!"
The kid's eyes were literally 'wide as saucers'. The mother still
looked half asleep. I closed the door in their faces. I still feel
bad for that poor child.

Enkidu

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Nov 27, 2009, 9:56:50 PM11/27/09
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hypa...@comcast.net wrote:

My wife once ripped into their Watchtower, explaining to the kids how
evolution really works. They ran like the devil was after them, dragging
the poor kids faster than their feet could move. She was a senior
research chemist for Merck at the time, and very well qualified to teach
such a lesson.

--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA

"'In God We Trust.' I don't believe it would sound any better if it were true." - Mark Twain
"The trouble with theocracy is that everyone wants to be Theo."
-- James Dunn

Jimbo

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Nov 27, 2009, 10:04:18 PM11/27/09
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On Nov 27, 9:50 pm, "hypati...@comcast.net" <hypati...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Yeah, I've seen them do similar crap. Some years ago, they build a
3,000 seat temple just a few blocks away from my elderly grandfather.
We begged and pleaded with them not to come around anymore because
they were just flat rude, and especially to the elderly. That
neighborhood was, and still is to a lesser extent, an autoworkers
neighborhood, so various people worked various shifts. People
complained, told them not to come back, threatened them, all to no
avail. We finally had to get a court order before they stopped.
Stupid sons of a bitches.

Christopher A. Lee

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Nov 27, 2009, 10:20:23 PM11/27/09
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On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:04:18 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdb...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Nov 27, 9:50�pm, "hypati...@comcast.net" <hypati...@comcast.net>


>wrote:
>> On Nov 23, 8:18�am, Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Nov 22, 6:27�pm, Misc <a...@aliencreeps.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > I've read many posts from Atheists about how people have tried to
>> > > "force" their religion on them. �When I ask for an example they often
>> > > mention a "horrifying" encounter with two old, Jehovah Witness biddies
>> > > who accosted them, by knocking on their door.
>>
>> > That's what court orders are for. �When you are told not to come back,
>> > that should be a really good clue that you don't want to see them
>> > again. �It's not that they simply knock on the door, I had one of the
>> > "little darlings" actually shove her foot in the door to prevent me
>> > from closing it. �They are rude little bitches.

Stamp hard on their foot.

>> I got really angry at one of them once. She was dragging her
>> daughter,who looked like she was about ten, around with her.
>> The kid was bright-eyed and curious; the mother looked like
>> she was on drugs. I ripped into her before she could �start her
>> schpiel about "How dare you drag this poor child around from
>> door to door when she should be out playing with other children!"
>> The kid's eyes were literally 'wide as saucers'. The mother still
>> looked half asleep. I closed the door in their faces. I still feel
>> bad for that poor child.

The last ones I had were an attractive 30-ish woman who did the
talking and a linebacker to protect her.

She looked like she was on drugs too. A vapid smile and an "isn't it a
wonderful day" so you knew who they were straight away.

>Yeah, I've seen them do similar crap. Some years ago, they build a
>3,000 seat temple just a few blocks away from my elderly grandfather.
>We begged and pleaded with them not to come around anymore because
>they were just flat rude, and especially to the elderly. That
>neighborhood was, and still is to a lesser extent, an autoworkers
>neighborhood, so various people worked various shifts. People
>complained, told them not to come back, threatened them, all to no
>avail. We finally had to get a court order before they stopped.
>Stupid sons of a bitches.

I had them coming round regularly. Politely telling them to stop
calling did nothing. Neither did slamming the door in their faces.

Eventually I was personally and graphically XXX rude to them as I
could manage.

They were visibly shocked.

And haven't come since.

Hannele

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Nov 28, 2009, 4:12:40 PM11/28/09
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I always loved that one myself, from the moment I heard about it. It sums
up the best about the US for me.

--
Hannele, A.A #2211

There are at least as many gods as there are believers.

hypa...@comcast.net

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Dec 3, 2009, 5:34:06 PM12/3/09
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On Nov 22, 10:24 pm, Mitchell Holman <noem...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Misc <a...@aliencreeps.com> wrote in news:b60ad6b9-90cf-4cef-80c4-
> 07ba795bd...@j35g2000vbl.googlegroups.com:

>
> > I've read many posts from Atheists about how people have tried to
> > "force" their religion on them.  
>
>     Let's start by taking "God" off our money, out
> of the Pledge of Allegiance and insist that churches
> pay the taxes that the rest of us do.

And, that Christians stop proselytizing in atheist newsgroups.
They never, ever convert anyone, so we know they are doing
this just to be annoying.

hypa...@comcast.net

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Dec 8, 2009, 4:46:43 AM12/8/09
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On Nov 23, 8:11 am, Les Hellawell <l...@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:49:50 -0800 (PST), JTEM <jte...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Misc <a...@aliencreeps.com> wrote:
>
> >> I've read many posts from Atheists about how people
> >> have tried to "force" their religion on them.
>
> >You have a lot of free time, apparently.
>
> And we are only about 7% of the population of
> the USA, so we are told.
>
According to the polls, non-believers and those
who don't belong to a religion total 15-16% of
the US population. That includes, no religion,
not religious, atheists, agnostics (who mostly
are atheists at this point according to the study),
skeptics, free thinkers, secularists. If most of
the other names are mostly atheists who just
don't want to call themselves that, then there
really are a lot more of us than most people
think. Millions more, in fact. And, there are all
the people who are actually atheists but call
themselves by the name of a religion they no
longer believe in for the sake of convenience.
I call them cowards. If all these atheists who
call themselves by other names came out of
their self-imposed closets, we'd probably total
at least 25% of the US population.

And, if the number of no religion/nonbelievers
doubled from 8% -16% from 2000 - 2009, I
see even better numbers ahead for us in 2019.

Christopher A. Lee

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Dec 8, 2009, 5:22:47 AM12/8/09
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Trouble is, it also includes the "Christianity isn't a religion but a
relationship" loonies.

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