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Fred Stone

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Dec 5, 2007, 10:37:12 AM12/5/07
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http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/04/questions-about-the-journalists-on-
mitt-romneys-lawn/

Well, this is fascinating. Two Boston Globe reporters hung out on Mitt
Romney’s lawn last week and other Globe staffers have been scoping out
the lawn over the last two months:

Standing on stage at a Republican debate on the Gulf Coast of Florida
last week, Mitt Romney repeatedly lashed out at rival Rudy Giuliani for
providing sanctuary to illegal immigrants in New York City.

Yet, the very next morning, on Thursday, at least two illegal
immigrants stepped out of a hulking maroon pickup truck in the driveway
of Romney’s Belmont house, then proceeded to spend several hours raking
leaves, clearing debris from Romney’s tennis court, and loading the
refuse back on to the truck.

In fact, their work was part of a regular pattern. Despite a Globe
story in Dec. 2006 that highlighted Romney’s use of illegal immigrants to
tend to his lawn, Romney continued to employ the same landscaping company
– until today. The landscaping company, in turn, continued to employ
illegal immigrants.

Two of the workers confirmed in separate interviews with Globe
reporters last week that they were in the country without documents. One
said he had paid $7,000 to a smuggler to escort him across the desert
into Arizona; the other said he had come to the country with a student
visa that was now expired. Both were seen on the lawn by either Globe
reporters or photographers over the last two months.

The Globe piece published this evening on the paper’s website is
accompanied by a massive photo, snapped through a fence, showing the lawn
company owner mowing Romney’s lawn.

Questions abound:

Will Geraldo Rivera and his open-borders companions accuse the reporters
of Nazi-like tactics for “harassing” the illegal immigrants?

Will the Globe reporters be accused of, ahem, “stalking” the poor
illegals and invading privacy? Note that they didn’t just drive by the
house once. They hung out on the lawn over the last two months.

And when is it permissible to ask an illegal alien his citizenship
status?

Now, the answers are loud and clear:

It isn’t “harassment” when liberal MSM journalists spy on illegal
aliens…if it will embarrass a Republican presidential candidate.

It isn’t “stalking” when liberal MSM journalists snap photos of your lawn
and conduct two-month-long recoinnasance missions…if it will embarrass a
Republican presidential candidate.

And while it’s bad for police to ask suspected criminal aliens their
citizenship status, it’s fine and dandy for journalists to ask lawn
workers whether they’re here illegally…if it will embarrass a Republican
presidential candidate.

For the record, Romney should have cut ties with the company a long time
ago. Dumb decision. He should be embarrassed.

But not as embarrassed as open-borders zealots and Dems should be. Watch
as they exploit this report and then turn around and attack everyone
other than liberal MSM journalists who advocates the repeal of sanctuary
gag orders or uses the same basic investigative techniques to report a
story. (Here’s a thought experiment: Imagine a Fox reporter hanging out
at the Virginia DMV where the 9/11 hijackers bought fraudulent ID for two
months, asking the day laborers if they’re here legally, snapping photos
and shooting video of the parking lot transactions, and then reporting
the results to DHS for comment on air. The spit would fly, I guarantee
it.)

Anyway, I wonder if the Globe reporters used Google?

God forbid!!!!!!

--
Fred Stone
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chibiabos

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Dec 5, 2007, 12:00:24 PM12/5/07
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In article <Xns99FD6C0C1C...@216.151.153.48>, Fred Stone
<fsto...@earthling.com> wrote:

> http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/04/questions-about-the-journalists-on-
> mitt-romneys-lawn/
>
> Well, this is fascinating. Two Boston Globe reporters hung out on Mitt
> Romney’s lawn last week and other Globe staffers have been scoping out
> the lawn over the last two months:

Does not Michelle Malkin (the columnist, not our Mickey) realize that
she's free to do the same thing at Hillary's lawn, Edwards' lawn,
Obama's lawn? Do you not suppose this has already been done (for
starters, and for what will surely become another entry in the
political lexicon, like "swiftboat")? It's the election season and
anything goes? Including substanceless stories like this one if it will
get a rise out of the faithful? Or are you really as foolish and naive
as you appear?

BTW. Malkin's about as MSM as they come.

-chib

--
Member of SMASH
Sarcastic Middle-Aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor

Fred Stone

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Dec 5, 2007, 1:00:56 PM12/5/07
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chibiabos <chib...@nospam.com> wrote in news:051220070900248163%
chib...@nospam.com:

> In article <Xns99FD6C0C1C...@216.151.153.48>, Fred Stone
> <fsto...@earthling.com> wrote:
>
>> http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/04/questions-about-the-journalists-
>> on-mitt-romneys-lawn/
>>
>> Well, this is fascinating. Two Boston Globe reporters hung out on Mitt
>> Romney’s lawn last week and other Globe staffers have been scoping out
>> the lawn over the last two months:
>
> Does not Michelle Malkin (the columnist, not our Mickey) realize that
> she's free to do the same thing at Hillary's lawn, Edwards' lawn,
> Obama's lawn? Do you not suppose this has already been done (for
> starters, and for what will surely become another entry in the
> political lexicon, like "swiftboat")? It's the election season and
> anything goes? Including substanceless stories like this one if it will
> get a rise out of the faithful? Or are you really as foolish and naive
> as you appear?
>

So what you're saying is "Everybody does it, so it must be OK", chib? And
*you* call *me* foolish and naive?

> BTW. Malkin's about as MSM as they come.
>

Yeah, doesn't it burn?

Geoff

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Dec 5, 2007, 1:20:46 PM12/5/07
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Fred Stone wrote:
> http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/04/questions-about-the-journalists-on-
> mitt-romneys-lawn/

>
> Standing on stage at a Republican debate on the Gulf Coast of
> Florida last week, Mitt Romney repeatedly lashed out at rival Rudy
> Giuliani for providing sanctuary to illegal immigrants in New York
> City.
>
> Yet, the very next morning, on Thursday, at least two illegal
> immigrants stepped out of a hulking maroon pickup truck in the
> driveway of Romney's Belmont house, then proceeded to spend several
> hours raking leaves, clearing debris from Romney's tennis court, and
> loading the refuse back on to the truck.

Yeah, that's hypocritical allright.


Fred Stone

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Dec 5, 2007, 1:31:34 PM12/5/07
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"Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in news:LbmdneaXMI-
cccvanZ2dn...@giganews.com:

> Fred Stone wrote:
>> http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/04/questions-about-the-journalists-


on-
>> mitt-romneys-lawn/
>>
>> Standing on stage at a Republican debate on the Gulf Coast of
>> Florida last week, Mitt Romney repeatedly lashed out at rival Rudy
>> Giuliani for providing sanctuary to illegal immigrants in New York
>> City.
>>
>> Yet, the very next morning, on Thursday, at least two illegal
>> immigrants stepped out of a hulking maroon pickup truck in the
>> driveway of Romney's Belmont house, then proceeded to spend several
>> hours raking leaves, clearing debris from Romney's tennis court, and
>> loading the refuse back on to the truck.

Questions abound:

Will Geraldo Rivera and his open-borders companions accuse the reporters
of Nazi-like tactics for "harassing" the illegal immigrants?

Will the Globe reporters be accused of, ahem, "stalking" the poor
illegals and invading privacy? Note that they didn't just drive by the
house once. They hung out on the lawn over the last two months.

And when is it permissible to ask an illegal alien his citizenship
status?

Now, the answers are loud and clear:

It isn't "harassment" when liberal MSM journalists spy on illegal

aliens.if it will embarrass a Republican presidential candidate.

It isn't "stalking" when liberal MSM journalists snap photos of your lawn

and conduct two-month-long recoinnasance missions.if it will embarrass a
Republican presidential candidate.

And while it's bad for police to ask suspected criminal aliens their
citizenship status, it's fine and dandy for journalists to ask lawn

workers whether they're here illegally.if it will embarrass a Republican
presidential candidate.

For the record, Romney should have cut ties with the company a long time
ago. Dumb decision. He should be embarrassed.


>

> Yeah, that's hypocritical allright.
>
>

Yeah, yours is showing, Geoff.

Geoff

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Dec 5, 2007, 1:59:48 PM12/5/07
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Fred Stone wrote:
> "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in news:LbmdneaXMI-
> cccvanZ2dn...@giganews.com:
>
>> Fred Stone wrote:
>>> http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/04/questions-about-the-journalists-
>>> on- mitt-romneys-lawn/
>>>
>>> Standing on stage at a Republican debate on the Gulf Coast of
>>> Florida last week, Mitt Romney repeatedly lashed out at rival Rudy
>>> Giuliani for providing sanctuary to illegal immigrants in New York
>>> City.
>>>
>>> Yet, the very next morning, on Thursday, at least two illegal
>>> immigrants stepped out of a hulking maroon pickup truck in the
>>> driveway of Romney's Belmont house, then proceeded to spend several
>>> hours raking leaves, clearing debris from Romney's tennis court, and
>>> loading the refuse back on to the truck.
>
> Questions abound:

Nope. Romney's hypocrisy is self-evident.

> Will Geraldo Rivera and his open-borders companions accuse the
> reporters of Nazi-like tactics for "harassing" the illegal immigrants?

Who cares? Only Fox News idiots think Gerry Rivers is a legitimate
journalist.


JTEM

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Dec 5, 2007, 2:21:24 PM12/5/07
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Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:

> Yet, the very next morning, on Thursday, at least two illegal
> immigrants stepped out of a hulking maroon pickup truck in
> the driveway of Romney's Belmont house,

"Fred," you fucking hypocrite, you!

Mormon Romney is running on an anti-illegal immigrant
platform! The fact that the man has illegal immigrants working
on his lawn -- and has had illegal immigrants working on his
lawn for as long as he's been an anti-illegal immigrant
candidate -- is relevant.

YOU, on the other hand, have defended your Reich wing gods
for stalking children for daring to have not died, but to have
instead taken advantage of a SCHIP program!

So you're in favor of stalking -- even smearing -- children who
allow the example of their life to be used, but you're against
exposing the hypocrisy of candidtaes for office....

Wait a minute.

Speaking of hypocrisy, remember what you filthy twats were
claiming during the highly accurate "General Betrayus"
issue? You were pretending that it was unfair to attack a
documented liar because he wasn't an elected official. You
Reich wing lunatics were saying that it would be different if
he was an elected official, or part of the administration, instead
of a military officer.

But Mitt Mormon Romney *IS* a politician, a candidate for
office, and you're against him being scrutinied.... just as you
were *FOR* the stalking of children who admitted that they
benefitted from the SCHIP program....

Man, you really are filth. It's not just an act.

Mirage

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Dec 5, 2007, 2:28:30 PM12/5/07
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What the hell does "MSM" even stand for?

Microsoft Money?!
Massive Shat Magnets!
Morons Swinging Mallets?
Mormon Scumbag Murderers?
Manatee Scribbling Marshmallows ??

-- k8

Christopher A.Lee

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Dec 5, 2007, 2:32:32 PM12/5/07
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On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 11:28:30 -0800 (PST), Mirage
<fennec...@gmail.com> wrote:

>What the hell does "MSM" even stand for?

Main Stream Media

Fred Stone

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Dec 5, 2007, 3:19:47 PM12/5/07
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"Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in
news:7cWdnbLdRZS6aMva...@giganews.com:

> Fred Stone wrote:
>> "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in news:LbmdneaXMI-
>> cccvanZ2dn...@giganews.com:
>>
>>> Fred Stone wrote:
>>>> http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/04/questions-about-the-journalists

>>>> - on- mitt-romneys-lawn/


>>>>
>>>> Standing on stage at a Republican debate on the Gulf Coast of
>>>> Florida last week, Mitt Romney repeatedly lashed out at rival Rudy
>>>> Giuliani for providing sanctuary to illegal immigrants in New York
>>>> City.
>>>>
>>>> Yet, the very next morning, on Thursday, at least two illegal
>>>> immigrants stepped out of a hulking maroon pickup truck in the
>>>> driveway of Romney's Belmont house, then proceeded to spend several
>>>> hours raking leaves, clearing debris from Romney's tennis court,
>>>> and loading the refuse back on to the truck.
>>
>> Questions abound:
>
> Nope. Romney's hypocrisy is self-evident.
>

Didnt' say otherwise.

>> Will Geraldo Rivera and his open-borders companions accuse the
>> reporters of Nazi-like tactics for "harassing" the illegal
>> immigrants?
>
> Who cares? Only Fox News idiots think Gerry Rivers is a legitimate
> journalist.
>

Your hypocrisy is still showing, Geoff.

Matt Silberstein

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Dec 5, 2007, 3:25:46 PM12/5/07
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What did any of that have to do with liberals?

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Lord Calvert

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Dec 5, 2007, 3:41:46 PM12/5/07
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On Dec 5, 2:21 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:

> But Mitt Mormon Romney *IS* a politician, a candidate for
> office, and you're against him being scrutinied....

Of course he is. Fred's a doctrinaire Chekist. To him, scrutinizing
big-government is the highest possible crime there is. He believes
that big-government should be mindlessly obeyed by us proles at all
times and that the media should only print what big-government tells
them to. Romney in his dacha is sacrosanct. To him, anything that
interferes with the authority of big-government harms the legitimacy
of the Party and as we all have seen over the last six years, the neo-
commies believe that the Party *is* the state.

If Romney were a real conservative instead of the America-hating, big-
government worshiping Taliban-wannabee that he is, he wouldn't give a
shit about illegal immigration because there shouldn't be any laws
about immigration at all. It is an unnecessary and unwarranted
expansion of government power and nanny-stateism at its worst. Romney
is no conservative. He's just another commie wrapped up in a choir
robe.

Rich Goranson
Amherst, NY, USA
aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1
EAC Department of Cruel and Unusual Choreography

"I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it
more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to
promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to
pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs,
but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution or that
have failed their purpose, or that impose on the people an unwarranted
financial burden. I will not attempt to discover whether legislation
is 'needed' before I have first determined whether it is
constitutionally permissible. And if I should later be attacked for
neglecting my constituents 'interests,' I shall reply that I was
informed that their main interest is liberty and that in that cause I
am doing the very best I can." - Sen. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)

Fred Stone

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Dec 5, 2007, 5:59:46 PM12/5/07
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JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote in news:3f7d51c0-c174-4d80-812e-
7bea0a...@o6g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:

> Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
>
>> Yet, the very next morning, on Thursday, at least two illegal
>> immigrants stepped out of a hulking maroon pickup truck in
>> the driveway of Romney's Belmont house,
>
> "Fred," you fucking hypocrite, you!
>
> Mormon Romney is running on an anti-illegal immigrant
> platform! The fact that the man has illegal immigrants working
> on his lawn -- and has had illegal immigrants working on his
> lawn for as long as he's been an anti-illegal immigrant
> candidate -- is relevant.
>

I never said otherwise. As the article I cited makes clear, it *is*
hypocritical of Romney and he should have dumped that lawn care company
years ago. But don't bother yourself over little inconvenient truths,
"JTEM". I know you're a "Big Lie" kinda guy.

> YOU, on the other hand, have defended your Reich wing gods
> for stalking children for daring to have not died, but to have
> instead taken advantage of a SCHIP program!
>

Where "looking them up on Google" equals "stalking". And now you're
defending journalists for actually stalking, in real life, a bunch of
yard workers. And even asking them whether they're legal immigrants!
Which, as you know, is unacceptable behavior for a Good Liberal unless
he's trying to impugn a Republican.

> So you're in favor of stalking -- even smearing -- children who
> allow the example of their life to be used, but you're against
> exposing the hypocrisy of candidtaes for office....
>

No, I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of you and the rest of your librul
butt-buddies for "stalking" the yard workers at Romney's house.

> Wait a minute.
>
> Speaking of hypocrisy, remember what you filthy twats were
> claiming during the highly accurate "General Betrayus"
> issue? You were pretending that it was unfair to attack a
> documented liar because he wasn't an elected official. You
> Reich wing lunatics were saying that it would be different if
> he was an elected official, or part of the administration, instead
> of a military officer.
>

Still smarting from that one, are you, "JTEM". You got your asses handed
to you, as I recall.

> But Mitt Mormon Romney *IS* a politician, a candidate for
> office, and you're against him being scrutinied.... just as you
> were *FOR* the stalking of children who admitted that they
> benefitted from the SCHIP program....
>
> Man, you really are filth. It's not just an act.
>

Does your head hurt when you spin that hard, "JTEM"? Or is your head so
fucking empty that you don't have any sense of balance left?

Fred Stone

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Dec 5, 2007, 6:00:25 PM12/5/07
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Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPref...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:e92el3p6obnt0mf1j...@4ax.com:

> What did any of that have to do with liberals?
>

Ask "JTEM". He knows. Why else would he get so worked up over it?

Matt Silberstein

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Dec 5, 2007, 10:39:08 PM12/5/07
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On 05 Dec 2007 23:00:25 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fsto...@earthling.com> in
<Xns99FDB72F7D...@216.151.153.46> wrote:

>Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPref...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
>news:e92el3p6obnt0mf1j...@4ax.com:
>
>> What did any of that have to do with liberals?
>>
>
>Ask "JTEM". He knows. Why else would he get so worked up over it?

I asked you because you made the claim.

Fred Stone

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Dec 5, 2007, 10:43:29 PM12/5/07
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Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPref...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:tlrel35s29dj0510e...@4ax.com:

> On 05 Dec 2007 23:00:25 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
> <fsto...@earthling.com> in
> <Xns99FDB72F7D...@216.151.153.46> wrote:
>
>>Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPref...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
>>news:e92el3p6obnt0mf1j...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> What did any of that have to do with liberals?
>>>
>>
>>Ask "JTEM". He knows. Why else would he get so worked up over it?
>
> I asked you because you made the claim.
>

That should be obvious, Matt. It's liberals who complain about things like
"stalking" and demanding to know the immigration status of illegal aliens.
And yet those same liberals don't have any problems with reporters who
stalked the lawn care service at Mitt Romney's house and demanded to know
the immigration status of the people there.

Matt Silberstein

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Dec 6, 2007, 12:03:48 AM12/6/07
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On 06 Dec 2007 03:43:29 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fsto...@earthling.com> in
<Xns99FDE72F38...@216.151.153.46> wrote:

>Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPref...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
>news:tlrel35s29dj0510e...@4ax.com:
>
>> On 05 Dec 2007 23:00:25 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
>> <fsto...@earthling.com> in
>> <Xns99FDB72F7D...@216.151.153.46> wrote:
>>
>>>Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPref...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
>>>news:e92el3p6obnt0mf1j...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> What did any of that have to do with liberals?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Ask "JTEM". He knows. Why else would he get so worked up over it?
>>
>> I asked you because you made the claim.
>>
>
>That should be obvious, Matt. It's liberals who complain about things like
>"stalking"

Are you saying that stalking is fine and dandy with conservatives?
That would, I suppose, help explain why they lose the women's vote.

> and demanding to know the immigration status of illegal aliens.

Depending on the context, sure. It is a very bad idea for all of us
for police to ask crime victims or witnesses their immigration status.

>And yet those same liberals don't have any problems with reporters who
>stalked the lawn care service at Mitt Romney's house and demanded to know
>the immigration status of the people there.

What *same* liberals do you mean? Please give us the names of some
people who both make the complaints you claim and don't have those
problems.

chibiabos

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Dec 6, 2007, 12:22:28 AM12/6/07
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In article <Xns99FD84655E...@216.151.153.41>, Fred Stone
<fsto...@earthling.com> wrote:

> chibiabos <chib...@nospam.com> wrote in news:051220070900248163%
> chib...@nospam.com:
>
> > In article <Xns99FD6C0C1C...@216.151.153.48>, Fred Stone
> > <fsto...@earthling.com> wrote:
> >
> >> http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/04/questions-about-the-journalists-
> >> on-mitt-romneys-lawn/
> >>
> >> Well, this is fascinating. Two Boston Globe reporters hung out on Mitt
> >> Romney’s lawn last week and other Globe staffers have been scoping out
> >> the lawn over the last two months:
> >
> > Does not Michelle Malkin (the columnist, not our Mickey) realize that
> > she's free to do the same thing at Hillary's lawn, Edwards' lawn,
> > Obama's lawn? Do you not suppose this has already been done (for
> > starters, and for what will surely become another entry in the
> > political lexicon, like "swiftboat")? It's the election season and
> > anything goes? Including substanceless stories like this one if it will
> > get a rise out of the faithful? Or are you really as foolish and naive
> > as you appear?
> >
>
> So what you're saying is "Everybody does it, so it must be OK", chib? And
> *you* call *me* foolish and naive?

The whole US political process is a disaster. Not just Pugs, not just
Dems, not just the media. The whole fucking thing is rotten from the
inside out, and you're not helping.


> > BTW. Malkin's about as MSM as they come.
> >
>
> Yeah, doesn't it burn?

Not for long.

-chib

--
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor

Yang, AthD (h.c)

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Dec 6, 2007, 1:31:11 AM12/6/07
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On 05 Dec 2007 15:37:12 GMT, Fred Stone <fsto...@earthling.com>
wrote:

>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/04/questions-about-the-journalists-on-
>mitt-romneys-lawn/
>
>Well, this is fascinating. Two Boston Globe reporters hung out on Mitt
>Romney’s lawn last week and other Globe staffers have been scoping out
>the lawn over the last two months:
>
> Standing on stage at a Republican debate on the Gulf Coast of Florida
>last week, Mitt Romney repeatedly lashed out at rival Rudy Giuliani for
>providing sanctuary to illegal immigrants in New York City.
>
> Yet, the very next morning, on Thursday, at least two illegal
>immigrants stepped out of a hulking maroon pickup truck in the driveway
>of Romney’s Belmont house, then proceeded to spend several hours raking
>leaves, clearing debris from Romney’s tennis court, and loading the
>refuse back on to the truck.

Oh I get it, when Republican infigting results in one Republican
getting called on his lies, it's wrong, but when Republicans stalk 12
YO boy who got ran over by a truck, it's citizen journalism.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/c25656fdf2a097cb/d66ae3a7d0fc0e64?lnk=st&q=alt.atheism+fred+stone+frost#d66ae3a7d0fc0e64

--
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both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006

JTEM

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Dec 6, 2007, 3:49:11 AM12/6/07
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Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:

> JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote

> > "Fred," you fucking hypocrite, you!
>
> > Mormon Romney is running on an anti-illegal immigrant
> > platform! The fact that the man has illegal immigrants working
> > on his lawn -- and has had illegal immigrants working on his
> > lawn for as long as he's been an anti-illegal immigrant
> > candidate -- is relevant.
>
> I never said otherwise.

You should read the article that started this thread, and see what
that idiot posted under your name...

Fred Stone

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Dec 6, 2007, 6:57:27 AM12/6/07
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"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
news:ol5fl3t31r60rni93...@4ax.com:

>>- mitt-romneys-lawn/


>>
>>Well, this is fascinating. Two Boston Globe reporters hung out on Mitt
>>Romney’s lawn last week and other Globe staffers have been scoping out
>>the lawn over the last two months:
>>
>> Standing on stage at a Republican debate on the Gulf Coast of
>> Florida
>>last week, Mitt Romney repeatedly lashed out at rival Rudy Giuliani
>>for providing sanctuary to illegal immigrants in New York City.
>>
>> Yet, the very next morning, on Thursday, at least two illegal
>>immigrants stepped out of a hulking maroon pickup truck in the
>>driveway of Romney’s Belmont house, then proceeded to spend several
>>hours raking leaves, clearing debris from Romney’s tennis court, and
>>loading the refuse back on to the truck.
>
> Oh I get it, when Republican infigting results in one Republican
> getting called on his lies, it's wrong, but when Republicans stalk 12
> YO boy who got ran over by a truck, it's citizen journalism.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/c25656fdf2
> a097cb/d66ae3a7d0fc0e64?lnk=st&q=alt.atheism+fred+stone+frost#d66ae3a7d
> 0fc0e64
>

Nobody "stalked" that 12 year old boy, you stupid liberal freak (but
that's redundant). People looked him up on Google to check out his story.

--

Fred Stone

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Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPref...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
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You, for instance, just now, in this post.

Fred Stone

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chibiabos <ch...@nospam.com> wrote in
news:051220072122284570%ch...@nospam.com:

> In article <Xns99FD84655E...@216.151.153.41>, Fred Stone
> <fsto...@earthling.com> wrote:
>
>> chibiabos <chib...@nospam.com> wrote in news:051220070900248163%
>> chib...@nospam.com:
>>
>> > In article <Xns99FD6C0C1C...@216.151.153.48>, Fred Stone
>> > <fsto...@earthling.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/04/questions-about-the-journalist

>> >> s- on-mitt-romneys-lawn/


>> >>
>> >> Well, this is fascinating. Two Boston Globe reporters hung out on
>> >> Mitt Romney’s lawn last week and other Globe staffers have been
>> >> scoping out the lawn over the last two months:
>> >
>> > Does not Michelle Malkin (the columnist, not our Mickey) realize
>> > that she's free to do the same thing at Hillary's lawn, Edwards'
>> > lawn, Obama's lawn? Do you not suppose this has already been done
>> > (for starters, and for what will surely become another entry in the
>> > political lexicon, like "swiftboat")? It's the election season and
>> > anything goes? Including substanceless stories like this one if it
>> > will get a rise out of the faithful? Or are you really as foolish
>> > and naive as you appear?
>> >
>>
>> So what you're saying is "Everybody does it, so it must be OK", chib?
>> And *you* call *me* foolish and naive?
>
> The whole US political process is a disaster. Not just Pugs, not just
> Dems, not just the media. The whole fucking thing is rotten from the
> inside out, and you're not helping.
>

On the contrary, there are spots of reason among the chaos. Surprisingly
enough, there are even Senators and Representatives who haven't succumbed
to the Dark Side. And they exist on both sides of the aisle. The real
question is how to support them and drive the others out of office when
the deck is clearly stacked in favor of the corrupt and the venal pork-
barreling swine of both parties.

>
>> > BTW. Malkin's about as MSM as they come.
>> >
>>
>> Yeah, doesn't it burn?
>
> Not for long.
>

That's what Hank Reardon said to Dagny Taggart.

Geoff

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Why because I don't consider a person who gave the world "Al Capone's Vault"
a legitimate journalist?

Get bent.


Geoff

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i.e. any news outlet that Fred has issue with


Mark K. Bilbo

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Oh hardly. But the irony is she *wanted* to be MSM as they come. She's a
wannabe that flopped then sour graped the whole thing...


--
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EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
Focus on Your Own Damn Family

Mark K. Bilbo

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Oh, I don't know. Public figures being scrutinized, even to the point of
going through their trash, is about as normal in US politics as it gets.
You should read the things Ben Franklin's grandson wrote about Washington
(no, really, he *hated* the man, wrote a cheery "thank god the bastard's
dead" kind of opinion piece when Washington kicked off).

Comrade Phred is just pissed that The Party isn't being treated as being
above suspicion and they're not making much headway with tossing
dissenters into the gulags of Cuba. Nor are they getting much traction on
the old Soviet tactic of calling dissenters "crazy" and, what's the term
they use, "moonbats"?

I mean, that *was* a Soviet tactic. Opposing the state and the party was
"insanity" so you got locked up in a nut ward...


--
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EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------

Jesus loves you all, and can't wait to control you like a
small household pet

Matt Silberstein

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On 06 Dec 2007 12:06:30 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fsto...@earthling.com> in
<Xns99FE484D3C...@216.151.153.34> wrote:

Sorry, I don't see the conflict. I think it is bad public policy, and
bad for public safety, for regular police to be involved directly in
immigration issues. I want everyone to be free to report crimes: that
makes me (and you) safer. That is distinct from reporters trying to
find someone's immigration status. I do think that employers should
ask for that kind of information. In fact, the only place *in* the
country that I think that we can do a thing about immigration is by
working on the employers. If you see something hypocritical there then
specify the problem.

Fred Stone

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Dec 6, 2007, 10:56:47 AM12/6/07
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
news:FIKdnRrl86SqjsXa...@giganews.com:

Which is why people who dissent from the *DEMOCRAT* line are called crazy
and threatened with being locked up, right?

> I mean, that *was* a Soviet tactic. Opposing the state and the party
> was "insanity" so you got locked up in a nut ward...
>

Sure, just ask the people at various colleges who suggested that maybe it
wouldn't be such a bad thing to carry guns *after* the shootings at VA.

--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369

If you go into Sudan today
Your heart will fill with dread
If you go into Sudan today
You might just lose your head

Because on the sands
With blood on their hands
Every nut that ever was
Will be there because

Fred Stone

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Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPref...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
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So, basically, you're saying that you think it's a good thing if ordinary
citizens report crimes but that police should not. And you think that
people shouldn't stalk other people unless they're reporters.

--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369

Yang, AthD (h.c)

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Dec 6, 2007, 11:05:01 AM12/6/07
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On 06 Dec 2007 11:57:27 GMT, Fred Stone <fsto...@earthling.com>
wrote:

Oh look, another Fred My Bitch Republican lie.


http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/08/attacking-graeme-frost/

==================================
TP commenter Mr. Ed notes that Malkin visited the Frost’s home and
business today. A coworker of Mr. Frost tells Malkin that the family
is “struggling,” but she refuses to believe it.
===================================

Yep, just "looking him up on goole"

Why are you so fucking dishonest?

--

Fred Stone

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"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
news:u37gl39e73n1vu1qr...@4ax.com:

> On 06 Dec 2007 11:57:27 GMT, Fred Stone <fsto...@earthling.com>
> wrote:
>
>>"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
>>news:ol5fl3t31r60rni93...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On 05 Dec 2007 15:37:12 GMT, Fred Stone <fsto...@earthling.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/04/questions-about-the-journalists-

>>>>on - mitt-romneys-lawn/


>>>>
>>>>Well, this is fascinating. Two Boston Globe reporters hung out on
>>>>Mitt Romney’s lawn last week and other Globe staffers have been
>>>>scoping out the lawn over the last two months:
>>>>
>>>> Standing on stage at a Republican debate on the Gulf Coast of
>>>> Florida
>>>>last week, Mitt Romney repeatedly lashed out at rival Rudy Giuliani
>>>>for providing sanctuary to illegal immigrants in New York City.
>>>>
>>>> Yet, the very next morning, on Thursday, at least two illegal
>>>>immigrants stepped out of a hulking maroon pickup truck in the
>>>>driveway of Romney’s Belmont house, then proceeded to spend several
>>>>hours raking leaves, clearing debris from Romney’s tennis court, and
>>>>loading the refuse back on to the truck.
>>>
>>> Oh I get it, when Republican infigting results in one Republican
>>> getting called on his lies, it's wrong, but when Republicans stalk
>>> 12 YO boy who got ran over by a truck, it's citizen journalism.
>>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/c25656fd
>>> f2
>>> a097cb/d66ae3a7d0fc0e64?lnk=st&q=alt.atheism+fred+stone+frost#d66ae3a

>>> 7d 0fc0e64

>>>
>>
>>Nobody "stalked" that 12 year old boy, you stupid liberal freak (but
>>that's redundant). People looked him up on Google to check out his
>>story.
>
> Oh look, another Fred My Bitch Republican lie.
>
>
> http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/08/attacking-graeme-frost/
>
> ==================================
> TP commenter Mr. Ed notes that Malkin visited the Frost’s home and
> business today. A coworker of Mr. Frost tells Malkin that the family
> is “struggling,” but she refuses to believe it.
> ===================================
>
> Yep, just "looking him up on goole"
>
> Why are you so fucking dishonest?
>

Ah, of course, that utterly trustworthy and totally unbiased
StinkProgress site. Yeah, they're *sooo* honest.

--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369

Bill Baker

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Dec 6, 2007, 1:10:19 PM12/6/07
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On 06 Dec 2007 16:14:54 GMT, Fred Stone <fsto...@earthling.com> wrote
in message news:<Xns99FE726DD4...@216.151.153.47>:

Of course if you had actually followed the link, you would see that
they provided a link to Malkin's blog where she admits to doing it.

"I just returned from a visit to Frost's commercial property..."
"I also passed by the Frosts' rowhouse."
"Mike Reilly...characterized Frost as 'struggling.'"

http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/08/graeme-frost-and-the-perils-of-democrat-poster-child-abuse/

--
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"It would be a mistake for the United States Senate to allow any kind of
human cloning to come out of that chamber."
--Washington, D.C.; April 10, 2002

Fred Stone

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Dec 6, 2007, 3:10:09 PM12/6/07
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Bill Baker <wba...@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in
news:13lgeob...@corp.supernews.com:

> On 06 Dec 2007 16:14:54 GMT, Fred Stone <fsto...@earthling.com> wrote
> in message news:<Xns99FE726DD4...@216.151.153.47>:
>> "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
>> news:u37gl39e73n1vu1qr...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On 06 Dec 2007 11:57:27 GMT, Fred Stone <fsto...@earthling.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
>>>>news:ol5fl3t31r60rni93...@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On 05 Dec 2007 15:37:12 GMT, Fred Stone <fsto...@earthling.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/04/questions-about-the-journalist

>>>>>>s- on - mitt-romneys-lawn/


>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, this is fascinating. Two Boston Globe reporters hung out on
>>>>>>Mitt Romney’s lawn last week and other Globe staffers have been
>>>>>>scoping out the lawn over the last two months:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Standing on stage at a Republican debate on the Gulf Coast of
>>>>>> Florida
>>>>>>last week, Mitt Romney repeatedly lashed out at rival Rudy
>>>>>>Giuliani for providing sanctuary to illegal immigrants in New York
>>>>>>City.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yet, the very next morning, on Thursday, at least two illegal
>>>>>>immigrants stepped out of a hulking maroon pickup truck in the
>>>>>>driveway of Romney’s Belmont house, then proceeded to spend
>>>>>>several hours raking leaves, clearing debris from Romney’s tennis
>>>>>>court, and loading the refuse back on to the truck.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh I get it, when Republican infigting results in one Republican
>>>>> getting called on his lies, it's wrong, but when Republicans stalk
>>>>> 12 YO boy who got ran over by a truck, it's citizen journalism.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/c25656
>>>>> fd f2
>>>>> a097cb/d66ae3a7d0fc0e64?lnk=st&q=alt.atheism+fred+stone+frost#d66ae

>>>>> 3a 7d 0fc0e64

>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Nobody "stalked" that 12 year old boy, you stupid liberal freak (but
>>>>that's redundant). People looked him up on Google to check out his
>>>>story.
>>>
>>> Oh look, another Fred My Bitch Republican lie.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/08/attacking-graeme-frost/
>>>
>>> ==================================
>>> TP commenter Mr. Ed notes that Malkin visited the Frost’s home and
>>> business today. A coworker of Mr. Frost tells Malkin that the family
>>> is “struggling,” but she refuses to believe it.
>>> ===================================
>>>
>>> Yep, just "looking him up on goole"
>>>
>>> Why are you so fucking dishonest?
>>>
>>
>> Ah, of course, that utterly trustworthy and totally unbiased
>> StinkProgress site. Yeah, they're *sooo* honest.
>
> Of course if you had actually followed the link, you would see that
> they provided a link to Malkin's blog where she admits to doing it.
>
> "I just returned from a visit to Frost's commercial property..."
> "I also passed by the Frosts' rowhouse."
> "Mike Reilly...characterized Frost as 'struggling.'"
>
> http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/08/graeme-frost-and-the-perils-of-dem
> ocrat-poster-child-abuse/
>

Ah, of course, and this is "stalking".

Bill Baker

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On 06 Dec 2007 20:10:09 GMT, Fred Stone <fsto...@earthling.com> wrote
in message news:<Xns99FE9A50A7...@216.151.153.47>:

It certainly proves that people didn't just look him up on Google.
And that ThinkProgress is honest, since they actually documented their
claim.

--
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"We don't want to discourage the innovators and those who take risks
because they're afraid of getting sued by a lawsuit."
--Washington, D.C.; June 24, 2004

Matt Silberstein

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On 06 Dec 2007 15:58:24 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fsto...@earthling.com> in
<Xns99FE6FA6D2...@216.151.153.66> wrote:

Nope, I am not saying that at all. I am saying that, as a matter of
public policy and public safety the local police should not get
involved in immigration. All of our lives are safer if people feel
free to report crimes. If undocumented workers are afraid to go to the
police to report crimes against them or others, then they become easy
targets for criminals. You have taken a specific statement and rather
than respond to it you have built a false and misleading exaggeration.


>And you think that
>people shouldn't stalk other people unless they're reporters.

I don't see what the reporters did as stalking. Perhaps you should
provide a relevant definition of stalking. I will repeat, since you
miss it every time, there is a major difference between very public
figures, like candidates for the presidency, and normal citizens.
Attempts to find out the private details of a normal citizens life are
inappropriate, similar attempts for a major candidate for the
presidency are reasonable.

Fred Stone

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Dec 6, 2007, 4:20:51 PM12/6/07
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Bill Baker <wba...@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in
news:13lgnl1...@corp.supernews.com:

> On 06 Dec 2007 20:10:09 GMT, Fred Stone <fsto...@earthling.com> wrote
> in message news:<Xns99FE9A50A7...@216.151.153.47>:
>> Bill Baker <wba...@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in
>> news:13lgeob...@corp.supernews.com:
>>
>>> On 06 Dec 2007 16:14:54 GMT, Fred Stone <fsto...@earthling.com>
>>> wrote in message news:<Xns99FE726DD4...@216.151.153.47>:
>>>> "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:u37gl39e73n1vu1qr...@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On 06 Dec 2007 11:57:27 GMT, Fred Stone <fsto...@earthling.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>news:ol5fl3t31r60rni93...@4ax.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 05 Dec 2007 15:37:12 GMT, Fred Stone <fsto...@earthling.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/04/questions-about-the-journali

>>>>>>>>st s- on - mitt-romneys-lawn/


>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Well, this is fascinating. Two Boston Globe reporters hung out
>>>>>>>>on Mitt Romney’s lawn last week and other Globe staffers have
>>>>>>>>been scoping out the lawn over the last two months:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Standing on stage at a Republican debate on the Gulf Coast
>>>>>>>> of Florida
>>>>>>>>last week, Mitt Romney repeatedly lashed out at rival Rudy
>>>>>>>>Giuliani for providing sanctuary to illegal immigrants in New
>>>>>>>>York City.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yet, the very next morning, on Thursday, at least two
>>>>>>>> illegal
>>>>>>>>immigrants stepped out of a hulking maroon pickup truck in the
>>>>>>>>driveway of Romney’s Belmont house, then proceeded to spend
>>>>>>>>several hours raking leaves, clearing debris from Romney’s
>>>>>>>>tennis court, and loading the refuse back on to the truck.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh I get it, when Republican infigting results in one Republican
>>>>>>> getting called on his lies, it's wrong, but when Republicans
>>>>>>> stalk 12 YO boy who got ran over by a truck, it's citizen
>>>>>>> journalism.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/c256
>>>>>>> 56 fd f2
>>>>>>> a097cb/d66ae3a7d0fc0e64?lnk=st&q=alt.atheism+fred+stone+frost#d66

>>>>>>> ae 3a 7d 0fc0e64

It proves that StinkyProgressives is still dishonest because the behavior
"documented" is not stalking. Not even close to those reporters staking
out Romney's house and "confronting" his lawn service.

Bill Baker

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On 06 Dec 2007 21:20:51 GMT, Fred Stone <fsto...@earthling.com> wrote
in message news:<Xns99FEA64F3F...@216.151.153.66>:

They're still honest, because they linked to the site to allow the reader
to draw their own conclusions on whether or not it was stalking.

--
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"Now, we talked to Joan Hanover. She and her husband, George, were
visiting with us. They are near retirement--retiring--in the process
of retiring, meaning they're very smart, active, capable people who are
retirement age and are retiring." --Alexandria, Virginia; February 12, 2003

Fred Stone

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Dec 6, 2007, 6:44:31 PM12/6/07
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Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPref...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:8hpgl3t36ajq9bvqs...@4ax.com:

So police shouldn't ask or report whether someone is an illegal alien.

> All of our lives are safer if people feel
> free to report crimes. If undocumented workers are afraid to go to the
> police to report crimes against them or others, then they become easy
> targets for criminals.

So police shouldn't "harass" drug users or other criminals either, since
they might be afraid to report crimes against themselves too.

> You have taken a specific statement and rather
> than respond to it you have built a false and misleading exaggeration.

You would know all about that tactic, Matt.

>>And you think that
>>people shouldn't stalk other people unless they're reporters.
>
> I don't see what the reporters did as stalking. Perhaps you should
> provide a relevant definition of stalking.

I think StinkyProgressives provided the definition that liberals should
be using, which includes such horrendous assults on privacy as looking
someone up on Google or ringing their doorbell or asking for an
interview.

> I will repeat, since you
> miss it every time, there is a major difference between very public
> figures, like candidates for the presidency, and normal citizens.
> Attempts to find out the private details of a normal citizens life are
> inappropriate, similar attempts for a major candidate for the
> presidency are reasonable.
>

But a spokesperson for a major political party, one who is chosen to
deliver a very public sermon about public policy is off limits?

Yang, AthD (h.c)

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Dec 6, 2007, 8:27:22 PM12/6/07
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And it certainly proves that Fred Stone is dishonest NeoCon. Oops,
that's just redundant.

>And that ThinkProgress is honest, since they actually documented their
>claim.

--

Yang, AthD (h.c)

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"just looked him up on google" eh liar Fred?

Yang, AthD (h.c)

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What a fucking lair, this loser Fred.

Matt Silberstein

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On 06 Dec 2007 23:44:31 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fsto...@earthling.com> in
<Xns99FEBE9D36...@216.151.153.21> wrote:

Local police? As a general rule, no. And I have explained why. If I am
attacked and the witnesses are undocumented, I want them to feel free
to report what they saw.

>> All of our lives are safer if people feel
>> free to report crimes. If undocumented workers are afraid to go to the
>> police to report crimes against them or others, then they become easy
>> targets for criminals.
>
>So police shouldn't "harass" drug users or other criminals either, since
>they might be afraid to report crimes against themselves too.

If a drug user were to report a crime the police should not then turn
and arrest them for their drug use. (Of course, I happen to also
think that drugs should be legal.) Again, that they commit a crime
does not put them outside the protection of the law. This is, in fact,
a major problem for people like prostitutes and such. It makes them
very vulnerable since they become afraid to report crimes against them
or others.

>> You have taken a specific statement and rather
>> than respond to it you have built a false and misleading exaggeration.
>
>You would know all about that tactic, Matt.

Nice tu toque. Now respond to your actions here.

>>>And you think that
>>>people shouldn't stalk other people unless they're reporters.
>>
>> I don't see what the reporters did as stalking. Perhaps you should
>> provide a relevant definition of stalking.
>
>I think StinkyProgressives provided the definition that liberals should
>be using, which includes such horrendous assults on privacy as looking
>someone up on Google or ringing their doorbell or asking for an
>interview.

If you have nothing, and it seems you have nothing, then name calling
is still not your best move. Nor it the rest of that nonsense.

>> I will repeat, since you
>> miss it every time, there is a major difference between very public
>> figures, like candidates for the presidency, and normal citizens.
>> Attempts to find out the private details of a normal citizens life are
>> inappropriate, similar attempts for a major candidate for the
>> presidency are reasonable.
>>
>
>But a spokesperson for a major political party, one who is chosen to
>deliver a very public sermon about public policy is off limits?

If you mean making meaningless attacks on a 12 year old, yes. But
somehow you got offended about *reporters* investigating the
*presidential candidate* while you had *defended* people making false
attacks on a 12 year old child. And then you have the astounding gall
to accuse others of hypocrisy.

Yang, AthD (h.c)

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And Fred is still dishonest by pretending his rightwing lynch mob only
"look people up on google".

Bill Baker

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Dec 7, 2007, 9:58:47 AM12/7/07
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On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 09:46:05 GMT, Yang, AthD (h.c)
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:<kk5il3pc9191628fk...@4ax.com>:

I notice he's stopped responding.

BTW, if you need a laugh, there's a guy over on the thread "How to
survive a fascist regime to come?" who is trying to deny the
armchairsubversive.org list by saying "consider the sources"

--
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"Laura and I really don't realize how bright our children is sometimes
until we get an objective analysis."
--CNBC; April 15, 2000

Yang, AthD (h.c)

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Dec 7, 2007, 11:12:29 AM12/7/07
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On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:58:47 -0000, Bill Baker
<wba...@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:

Just like how Fred Stone refuse to believe that his rightwingnuts
would stalk a 12 YO boy, even if it's by their own admission, so long
as it is referenced by thinkprogress.org

Bill Baker

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Dec 7, 2007, 12:13:55 PM12/7/07
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On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:12:29 GMT, Yang, AthD (h.c)
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:<a8sil31cu7i2d1alc...@4ax.com>:

Exactly.

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time, so my mom comes in and i quick as hell tab down the porn. So now
im looking at a SWAT vest and an Mp5 submachinegun trying to hide the
giant penis in my pants. Then all of a sudden this realy gay male voice
speaks out realy loud goin "i want to suck your big dick ans swallow
your hot sperm" then like 100 popups open up all consisting of hardcore
fetish gayporn.
<Charlesowns> man my mom started crying and now she thinks im gay... it owns

Fred Stone

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Dec 7, 2007, 1:28:48 PM12/7/07
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Bill Baker <wba...@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>urnali st s- on - mitt-romneys-lawn/


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well, this is fascinating. Two Boston Globe reporters hung
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>out on Mitt Romney’s lawn last week and other Globe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>staffers have been scoping out the lawn over the last two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>months:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Standing on stage at a Republican debate on the Gulf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coast of Florida
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>last week, Mitt Romney repeatedly lashed out at rival Rudy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Giuliani for providing sanctuary to illegal immigrants in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>New York City.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet, the very next morning, on Thursday, at least two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>immigrants stepped out of a hulking maroon pickup truck in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the driveway of Romney’s Belmont house, then proceeded to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spend several hours raking leaves, clearing debris from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Romney’s tennis court, and loading the refuse back on to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the truck.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh I get it, when Republican infigting results in one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Republican getting called on his lies, it's wrong, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when Republicans stalk 12 YO boy who got ran over by a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> truck, it's citizen journalism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/threa
>>>>>>>>>>>>> d/c256 56 fd f2
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a097cb/d66ae3a7d0fc0e64?lnk=st&q=alt.atheism+fred+stone+fro

>>>>>>>>>>>>> st#d66 ae 3a 7d 0fc0e64

>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Nobody "stalked" that 12 year old boy, you stupid liberal
>>>>>>>>>>>>freak (but that's redundant). People looked him up on Google
>>>>>>>>>>>>to check out his story.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Oh look, another Fred My Bitch Republican lie.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/08/attacking-graeme-frost/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ==================================
>>>>>>>>>>> TP commenter Mr. Ed notes that Malkin visited the Frost’s
>>>>>>>>>>> home and business today. A coworker of Mr. Frost tells
>>>>>>>>>>> Malkin that the family is “struggling,” but she refuses to
>>>>>>>>>>> believe it. ===================================
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, just "looking him up on goole"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why are you so fucking dishonest?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ah, of course, that utterly trustworthy and totally unbiased
>>>>>>>>>> StinkProgress site. Yeah, they're *sooo* honest.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Of course if you had actually followed the link, you would see
>>>>>>>>> that they provided a link to Malkin's blog where she admits to
>>>>>>>>> doing it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "I just returned from a visit to Frost's commercial
>>>>>>>>> property..." "I also passed by the Frosts' rowhouse."
>>>>>>>>> "Mike Reilly...characterized Frost as 'struggling.'"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/08/graeme-frost-and-the-peril

>>>>>>>>> s-of-d emocrat-poster-child-abuse/

>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ah, of course, and this is "stalking".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It certainly proves that people didn't just look him up on
>>>>>>> Google. And that ThinkProgress is honest, since they actually
>>>>>>> documented their claim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It proves that StinkyProgressives is still dishonest because the
>>>>>> behavior "documented" is not stalking. Not even close to those
>>>>>> reporters staking out Romney's house and "confronting" his lawn
>>>>>> service.
>>>>>
>>>>>They're still honest, because they linked to the site to allow the
>>>>>reader to draw their own conclusions on whether or not it was
>>>>>stalking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And Fred is still dishonest by pretending his rightwing lynch mob
>>>> only "look people up on google".
>>>
>>>I notice he's stopped responding.
>>>
>>>BTW, if you need a laugh, there's a guy over on the thread "How to
>>>survive a fascist regime to come?" who is trying to deny the
>>>armchairsubversive.org list by saying "consider the sources"
>>
>> Just like how Fred Stone refuse to believe that his rightwingnuts
>> would stalk a 12 YO boy, even if it's by their own admission, so long
>> as it is referenced by thinkprogress.org
>
> Exactly.
>

You and Yang are both idiots.

Fred Stone

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> Bill Baker <wba...@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in
> news:13livqj...@corp.supernews.com:
>
>> On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:12:29 GMT, Yang, AthD (h.c)
>> <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
>> news:<a8sil31cu7i2d1alc...@4ax.com>:

>>> Just like how Fred Stone refuse to believe that his rightwingnuts
>>> would stalk a 12 YO boy, even if it's by their own admission, so long
>>> as it is referenced by thinkprogress.org
>>
>> Exactly.
>>
>
> You and Yang are both idiots.
>

Oh, and hypocrites too.

Fred Stone

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Fred Stone <fsto...@earthling.com> wrote in
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> Fred Stone <fsto...@earthling.com> wrote in
> news:Xns99FF89127C...@216.151.153.21:
>
>> Bill Baker <wba...@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in
>> news:13livqj...@corp.supernews.com:
>>
>>> On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:12:29 GMT, Yang, AthD (h.c)
>>> <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:<a8sil31cu7i2d1alc...@4ax.com>:
>
>
>>>> Just like how Fred Stone refuse to believe that his rightwingnuts
>>>> would stalk a 12 YO boy, even if it's by their own admission, so
long
>>>> as it is referenced by thinkprogress.org
>>>
>>> Exactly.
>>>
>>
>> You and Yang are both idiots.
>>
>
> Oh, and hypocrites too.
>

Did I mention that you're both idiots?

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Bill Baker

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On 07 Dec 2007 18:28:48 GMT, Fred Stone <fsto...@earthling.com> wrote
in message news:<Xns99FF89127C...@216.151.153.21>:

Classic invective, as expected from one who lacks a logical argument.

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<tumnest> How'd you determine that?
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<riesto> So if you're reading this, students, GET TO FUCKING WORK! MODULE 10!

Yang, AthD (h.c)

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On 07 Dec 2007 18:28:48 GMT, Fred Stone <fsto...@earthling.com>
wrote:


Oh look, my bitch Fred running away from his lies.

Where's your proof that your GOP traiotors "only googled Graeme
Frost"?

Yang, AthD (h.c)

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On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:45:27 -0000, Bill Baker
<wba...@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:


And dishonest pussy Fred still running away from his lies.

marika

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"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPref...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
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>If you see something hypocritical there then
> specify the problem.
>

> --

i have really bad laryngitis. Isn't that exciting. I tried to beat it with
echinacea, lozenges, tea and raw honey. didn't work.

i hope your xmas will be fun

mk5000

"This is hardly a radical suggestion, as trust in politicians is low and any
UK politician will have supporters and antagonists and will only tend to be
'believed' by sections of the population (no doubt, aided or denigrated by a
media that shows distinctly varied enthusiasms for such issues). The
consultants suggest that DEFRA should pay 'eco-celebs' to advocate 'green'
messages. Amongst the individuals they suggest as potential eco-oracles are
actor and comedian Stephen Frye, actor and archaeology presenter Tony
Robinson, presenter of 'Animal Park' Ben Fogle, BBC news presenter Michael
Buerk, former 'Tomorrow's World' presenter Maggie Philbin and 'eco-guru and
designer' Rob Holdway presenter of Channel 4's 'Dumped'.
"--http://professorpbrainsblog.blogspot.com/2007/12/who-can-you-trust-to-sell-green-message.html

ah

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marika wrote:
> "Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPref...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
> message news:pv4gl3pk22dfror1u...@4ax.com...\
>
>
>>If you see something hypocritical there then
>> specify the problem.
>>
>> --
>
> i have really bad laryngitis. Isn't that exciting. I tried to beat it with
> echinacea, lozenges, tea and raw honey. didn't work.

red clover

>
> i hope your xmas will be fun
>
> mk5000
>
> "This is hardly a radical suggestion, as trust in politicians is low and any
> UK politician will have supporters and antagonists and will only tend to be
> 'believed' by sections of the population (no doubt, aided or denigrated by a
> media that shows distinctly varied enthusiasms for such issues). The
> consultants suggest that DEFRA should pay 'eco-celebs' to advocate 'green'
> messages. Amongst the individuals they suggest as potential eco-oracles are
> actor and comedian Stephen Frye, actor and archaeology presenter Tony
> Robinson, presenter of 'Animal Park' Ben Fogle, BBC news presenter Michael
> Buerk, former 'Tomorrow's World' presenter Maggie Philbin and 'eco-guru and
> designer' Rob Holdway presenter of Channel 4's 'Dumped'.
> "--http://professorpbrainsblog.blogspot.com/2007/12/who-can-you-trust-to-sell-green-message.html
>


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ah

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