Re: Laughing At So-Called Scientists Because of My Immense, Unfettered Intellect

[Surfer]

On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 02:28:51 +0000 (UTC), BeamMeUpScotty
<ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:

>
>The issue of global warming has a tremendous effect on
>corporate profits...
>
Yes. Now that Manhatten has been flooded with sea water during a storm
surge, what is the risk of that happening again and what is the risk
of it being worse next time?

[linuxgal]

Surfer wrote:
> Yes. Now that Manhatten has been flooded with sea water during a storm
> surge, what is the risk of that happening again and what is the risk
> of it being worse next time?
>

Manhattan used to be a swamp, it's constantly in danger of flooding with
or without a storm surge. There's a vast infrastructure of pumps under
the city.

[Free Lunch]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 09:08:36 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com>
wrote in alt.atheism:

There is certainly landfill in areas of Manhattan (e.g. Battery Park and
Battery Park City), but most of it is on rocks well above sea level. The
problem is that Wall Street buildings are built down below sea level.

[MarkA]

When Galveston, TX was destroyed by a hurricane in 1900, they re-built the
city - after raising it 10 feet. The few buildings that were still
standing were lifted on jacks, and earth was filled in under them.
Manhattan is a bit larger, and heavier, but, as sea levels inevitably
rise, it might be a solution to consider.

--
MarkA

If you can read this, you can stop reading now.

[Free Lunch]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 14:38:24 -0400, MarkA <som...@somewhere.invalid>
wrote in alt.atheism:

How do you jack up a 40-story tower with five basement levels?

[Dakota]

It seems more practical to raze Manhattan's skyscrapers than to raise
them.

<limbaugh snipped>

[Free Lunch]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 15:50:01 -0500, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote
in alt.atheism:

Most likely they will raise the sea wall of the Battery as much as
needed. Those buildings are valued too highly to raze them.

[Christopher A. Lee]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 15:47:37 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>

wrote:

>On Sun, 19 May 2013 14:38:24 -0400, MarkA <som...@somewhere.invalid>
>wrote in alt.atheism:
>
>>On Sun, 19 May 2013 11:28:58 -0500, Free Lunch wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 19 May 2013 09:08:36 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com>
>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>
>>>>Surfer wrote:
>>>>> Yes. Now that Manhatten has been flooded with sea water during a storm
>>>>> surge, what is the risk of that happening again and what is the risk
>>>>> of it being worse next time?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Manhattan used to be a swamp, it's constantly in danger of flooding with
>>>>or without a storm surge. There's a vast infrastructure of pumps under
>>>>the city.
>>>
>>> There is certainly landfill in areas of Manhattan (e.g. Battery Park and
>>> Battery Park City), but most of it is on rocks well above sea level. The
>>> problem is that Wall Street buildings are built down below sea level.
>>
>>When Galveston, TX was destroyed by a hurricane in 1900, they re-built the
>>city - after raising it 10 feet. The few buildings that were still
>>standing were lifted on jacks, and earth was filled in under them.
>>Manhattan is a bit larger, and heavier, but, as sea levels inevitably
>>rise, it might be a solution to consider.
>
>How do you jack up a 40-story tower with five basement levels?

They should build a sea wall around the island instead.

[Free Lunch]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 14:02:32 -0700, Christopher A. Lee
<ca...@optonline.net> wrote in alt.atheism:

I wonder how far below sea level people will be willing to be before
they decide they need to move over to the top of the Palisades.

[Don Martin]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 15:47:37 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>

wrote:

>On Sun, 19 May 2013 14:38:24 -0400, MarkA <som...@somewhere.invalid>
>wrote in alt.atheism:
>
>>On Sun, 19 May 2013 11:28:58 -0500, Free Lunch wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 19 May 2013 09:08:36 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com>
>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>
>>>>Surfer wrote:
>>>>> Yes. Now that Manhatten has been flooded with sea water during a storm
>>>>> surge, what is the risk of that happening again and what is the risk
>>>>> of it being worse next time?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Manhattan used to be a swamp, it's constantly in danger of flooding with
>>>>or without a storm surge. There's a vast infrastructure of pumps under
>>>>the city.
>>>
>>> There is certainly landfill in areas of Manhattan (e.g. Battery Park and
>>> Battery Park City), but most of it is on rocks well above sea level. The
>>> problem is that Wall Street buildings are built down below sea level.
>>
>>When Galveston, TX was destroyed by a hurricane in 1900, they re-built the
>>city - after raising it 10 feet. The few buildings that were still
>>standing were lifted on jacks, and earth was filled in under them.
>>Manhattan is a bit larger, and heavier, but, as sea levels inevitably
>>rise, it might be a solution to consider.
>
>How do you jack up a 40-story tower with five basement levels?

You start very low and use big jacks?

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[Dakota]

The latest issue of Scientific American has an article titled 'Storm
of the Century*

*Every two years'

Sea walls are among the suggested remedies. Another suggested placing
inflatable barriers in subways and other underground passageways to
hold the waters back until the people can be evacuated. The simplest I
spotted was building raised entryway to the subways. The water would
have to rise a few more feet before it could breach the raised
entries. Changing zoning laws to prevent new construction in low lying
areas seems reasonable as well.

It's a comprehensive article with dire predictions for many of our
coastal cities. I recommend picking up a copy if you're interested in
such things.

<limbaugh snipped>

[linuxgal]

Dakota wrote:
> It seems more practical to raze Manhattan's skyscrapers than to raise them.

Let me guess, with a controlled demolition timed to coincide with
holograms of incoming 737s.

[Alex W.]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 15:47:37 -0500, Free Lunch wrote:



>
> How do you jack up a 40-story tower with five basement levels?

Very carefully.
:-P

Don't forget, either, the infrastructure that is below all
of those towers. Subway, sewers, cable tunnels, etc...