On May 5, 8:16 am,
saturn_...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Believe in
Hold it right there, hoss: what do you mean by "believe in"? Do you
mean "accept as factual" or do you mean "follow the precepts of"?
Because the two are not co-equal.
> Jesus, the son of the God,
<Jerks reins back sharply> Okay, you can't claim anybody is the *son*
of a god unless and until you can provide evidence that this "god"
character actually exists.
> who died on cross for our sins.
I don't want anyone dying for my sins. I consider that to be an
abhorrent notion. Human sacrifice? Demigod sacrifice? Blood
atonement? I want no part of it, it's horrific.
> God wants that the one who believe in His son, Jesus, would have eternal life
<Smack> Damn, but you're ignorant. "Eternal" doesn't mean what you
think it means. "Eternal" means "not having a referent in time or
space." Since each human was born, each human has a referent in both
time *and* space, and therefore no human life can be "eternal," even
if it never ends (which is a nutty idea in itself). The word you need
here is not "eternal," but "everlasting."
Damn, but I'm getting tired of schooling you fundies.
> in paradise after death.
Sorry, sunshine, but there's not a shred of evidence that any part of
human consciousness survives the death of the brain. When you die,
you're dead. That's all she wrote. It's called "oblivion," and it
doesn't hurt.
> I can assure that He is real because of my experience
Subjective psychological states do not constitute evidence, cupcake.
Bring us some non-biblical, objective, verifiable data if you want to
support your assertion.
> and if you believe in Him, you will feel better.
I feel fine right now. I don't need to "feel better." That's how
they get you, you know: they come upon you when you're in low spirits
- something everyone experiences from time to time - and they make you
feel like they've got the cure.
It's only temporary. Come back when you've gotten over the high.