Hispanic OUTRAGED at Obama Attacks on Them

[BroilJAB]

Obama blasted Hispanics in Florida as 'crooks'
and 'mean-spirited' as he sought to spin the news
of Trayvon killed in an attempted murder of Hispanic.

[linuxgal]

Hispanics in Florida are fair game for Donks, they're Cuban exiles and
vote funny.

[BroilJAB]

VirgulLinux said,
Zimmerman is half jewish half Mex.

BroilJAB said,
Yes. My own name is Zimmerman
and a proud jew of german extraction.

[*us*]

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/lawrence-odonnell-and-charles-blow-give-george-zimmerman-pal-joe-oliver-epic-grilling/

[*us*]

Zimmerman got away with assaulting a cop.

Zimmerman's father's obviously a liar, too.

http://rollingout.com/culture/george-zimmerman-son-of-a-retired-judge-has-3-closed-arrests/

[George Plimpton]

Blowjob, aka *I Hate the US*, bullshitted:
> http://www.mediaite.com/tv/lawrence-odonnell-and-charles-blow-give-george-zimmerman-pal-joe-oliver-epic-grilling/

Far-left media outlet

[Wayne]

<* US *> wrote in message news:71f7n7taf2o3bclca...@4ax.com...

> Zimmerman got away with assaulting a cop.
>
> Zimmerman's father's obviously a liar, too.
>
> http://rollingout.com/culture/george-zimmerman-son-of-a-retired-judge-has-3-closed-arrests/

-
Too bad the hoody's record is under lockdown. Kinda like Zero's.

[* US *]

What did you expect from a Hispanic DemocRAT?
NO_LIMIT_NIGGA was killed by a registered Democrat and self-identified
Hispanic American
http://freebeacon.com/registered-dem-killed-trayvon/

On Mar 28, 8:36 pm, * US * wrote:
> Zimmerman got away with assaulting a cop.
>
> Zimmerman's father's obviously a liar, too.
>

> http://rollingout.com/culture/george-zimmerman-son-of-a-retired-judge...

[*us*]

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:11:01 -0700, Pimples <geo...@si.not> wrote:

>Blowjob...I Hate the US...

You do have problems, Pimples.

You certainly can't dispute a word from this:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/lawrence-odonnell-and-charles-blow-give-george-zimmerman-pal-joe-oliver-epic-grilling/

[*us*]

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:23:51 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:

><* US *> wrote in message news:71f7n7taf2o3bclca...@4ax.com...
>> Zimmerman got away with assaulting a cop.
>> Zimmerman's father's obviously a liar, too.
>>
>> http://rollingout.com/culture/george-zimmerman-son-of-a-retired-judge-has-3-closed-arrests/
>-

>Too bad the hoody's [sic] record is ...

Martin was innocent, and had the right to defend himself
from the violent aggression of his stalker.

[BroilJAB]

[Wayne]

"* US *" wrote in message news:7fl6n7p0s3qv0spr8...@4ax.com...

-
In other words....We don't need no stinkin facts.
Zimmerman (a white man) shot Trayloon (a black man). Case closed.

[George Plimpton]

Blowjob, aka *I Hate the US*, lied:

> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:23:51 -0700, "Wayne"<mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> <* US *> wrote in message news:71f7n7taf2o3bclca...@4ax.com...
>>> Zimmerman got away with assaulting a cop.
>>> Zimmerman's father's obviously a liar, too.
>>>
>>> http://rollingout.com/culture/george-zimmerman-son-of-a-retired-judge-has-3-closed-arrests/
>> -
>> Too bad the hoody's [sic] record is ...
>
> Martin was innocent,

No.

> and had the right to defend himself
> from the violent aggression of his stalker.

He would have had, if that's how it happened, but it didn't happen that
way. "Trayvon" initiated the violence - he slugged Zimmerman when
Zimmerman hadn't done anything to him.

[Mitchell Holman]

George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote in
news:p66dnZK32_3X8u7S...@giganews.com:

Who was walking down the street minding his
own business and who jumped out of his car and
confronted him?

[George Plimpton]

No one "jumped out" of his car or "confronted" "Trayvon". The kid
approached Zimmerman and initiated the physical confrontation.

[Bradley K. Sherman]

George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote:
>
>No one "jumped out" of his car or "confronted" "Trayvon". The kid
>approached Zimmerman and initiated the physical confrontation.

Codswallop.

--bks

[George Plimpton]

You want to believe it is, but your belief is based solely on your
ideology, not on any facts.

[Zacharias Mulletstein]

"Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:jkvq02$v4t$1...@dont-email.me...

Zimmerman is not white. He's a Hispandex.

[Bradley K. Sherman]

Well, that and the police report:
>http://cnninsession.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/martinpolicreport.pdf

--bks

[Brian E. Clark]

In article <jl01cd$c7j$1...@dont-email.me>,
zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com says...

> > In other words....We don't need no stinkin facts.
> > Zimmerman (a white man) shot Trayloon (a black man). Case closed.
>
> Zimmerman is not white. He's a Hispandex.

Ooh, that's a stretch.

--
-----------
Brian E. Clark

[George Plimpton]

On 3/28/2012 12:49 PM, Wayne wrote:
>
>
> "* US *" wrote in message
> news:7fl6n7p0s3qv0spr8...@4ax.com...
>
> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:23:51 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>>> <* US *> wrote in message
>>> news:71f7n7taf2o3bclca...@4ax.com...
>>>> Zimmerman got away with assaulting a cop.
>>>> Zimmerman's father's obviously a liar, too.
>>>>
>>>> http://rollingout.com/culture/george-zimmerman-son-of-a-retired-judge-has-3-closed-arrests/
>>>>
>>> -
>>> Too bad the hoody's [sic] record is ...
>>
>> Martin was innocent, and had the right to defend himself
>> from the violent aggression of his stalker.
> -
> In other words....We don't need no stinkin facts.
> Zimmerman (a white man) shot Trayloon (a black man). Case closed.

That's exactly how the leftards need to see it.

Meanwhile, they're silent about the thousands upon thousands of blacks
killed by other blacks every year.

[George Plimpton]

On 3/28/2012 3:04 PM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
> George Plimpton<geo...@si.not> wrote:
>> On 3/28/2012 2:19 PM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>> George Plimpton<geo...@si.not> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> No one "jumped out" of his car or "confronted" "Trayvon". The kid
>>>> approached Zimmerman and initiated the physical confrontation.
>>>
>>> Codswallop.
>>
>> You want to believe it is, but your belief is based solely on your
>> ideology, not on any facts.
>
> Well, that and the police report:
>> http://cnninsession.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/martinpolicreport.pdf

No, nothing in that says that Zimmerman "jumped out" of his car or
"confronted" the kid.

Zimmerman told the police that he was returning to his vehicle when
Martin approached him and ultimately punched him.

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/03/26/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html

[Bradley K. Sherman]

George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote:
>
>No, nothing in that says that Zimmerman "jumped out" of his car or
>"confronted" the kid.
>

It most certainly does say that. Compare the address from
the 911 call with the address where the body was found.

--bks

[Mitchell Holman]

George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote in

news:1_6dncTzUNfbCO7S...@giganews.com:

From your cite:


"The teen started to run, Zimmerman said. When he said he was
following the boy, the dispatcher told him, "We don't need you
to do that."


The kid is RUNNING AWAY from Zimmerman.

1) Why was Zimmerman chasing him?

2) Why did Zimmerman get out of his car?

3) Who started the confrontation - the
chaser or the chased?

[Uncle Vic]

"Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote
in news:jl01cd$c7j$1...@dont-email.me:

...sssnap!

--
Uncle Vic
aa# 2011

Visit my You Tube Channel!
http://www.youtube.com/user/Vicman6311?feature=mhee

[George Plimpton]

It doesn't say he "jumped out" of his car. It doesn't even say it by
implication. It doesn't say he "confronted" the kid.

[Tim Howard]

On 3/28/2012 1:06 PM, George Plimpton wrote:

> He would have had, if that's how it happened, but it didn't happen that
> way. "Trayvon" initiated the violence - he slugged Zimmerman when
> Zimmerman hadn't done anything to him.

First of all, the real George Plimpton is turning over in his grave
because you use his name.

The new video obtained by ABC shows Zimmerman is lying. He clearly was
not given a broken nose nor was the back of his head banged against the
ground for over 1 minute. Not a drop of blood on him. He is clearly
unhurt in that video. Care to retract your above statement?

[George Plimpton]

On 3/28/2012 5:28 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> George Plimpton<geo...@si.not> wrote in

He wasn't.

>
> 2) Why did Zimmerman get out of his car?

You'd have to ask him.

> 3) Who started the confrontation - the
> chaser or the chased?

Martin. Zimmerman told the police he was headed *back* to his car
because he lost sight of Martin. Then Martin reappeared and approached
Zimmerman, asked him if he "had a problem" with Martin, to which
Zimmerman replied no, and then Martin said, "Well, you do now" and
slugged him.

The confrontation was started by Martin.

[Mitchell Holman]

George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote in

news:nKadnY9HVt9KSO7S...@giganews.com:

He was. His own phone call said that.

>>
>> 2) Why did Zimmerman get out of his car?
>
> You'd have to ask him.
>
>
>> 3) Who started the confrontation - the
>> chaser or the chased?
>
> Martin. Zimmerman told the police he was headed *back* to his car
> because he lost sight of Martin.

Why did he get OUT of his car?

> Then Martin reappeared and approached
> Zimmerman, asked him if he "had a problem" with Martin, to which
> Zimmerman replied no, and then Martin said, "Well, you do now" and
> slugged him.
>
> The confrontation was started by Martin.

How does does a pedestrian start a confrontation
with a driver in a moving car?

[*us*]

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:49:13 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:

>.We don't need no stinkin facts.

You have swallowed too many lies.

>Zimmerman ...

He's a liar.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57406183/video-shows-zimmerman-without-blood-bruises/

[*us*]

The neocon pawn stupidly admires the authoritarian instead of the authoritative.

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:49:13 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:

>.We don't need no stinkin facts.

You have swallowed too many lies.

>Zimmerman ...

He's a liar.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57406183/video-shows-zimmerman-without-blood-bruises/

[*us*]

Zimmerman's been caught in his lies.

His wannabe loverboi is desperate now.

The neocon pawn stupidly admires the authoritarian instead of the authoritative.

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:49:13 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:

>.We don't need no stinkin facts.

You have swallowed too many lies.

>Zimmerman ...

He's a liar.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57406183/video-shows-zimmerman-without-blood-bruises/

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:23:51 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:

><* US *> wrote in message news:71f7n7taf2o3bclca...@4ax.com...
>> Zimmerman got away with assaulting a cop.
>> Zimmerman's father's obviously a liar, too.
>>
>> http://rollingout.com/culture/george-zimmerman-son-of-a-retired-judge-has-3-closed-arrests/
>-
>Too bad the hoody's [sic] record is ...

Martin was innocent, and had the right to defend himself

[*us*]

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:59:37 -0700, Pimples <geo...@si.not> wrote:

>No one "jumped out" of his car or "confronted" "Trayvon"...

You're really stupid, Pimples.

The neocon pawn stupidly admires the authoritarian instead of the authoritative.

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:49:13 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:

>.We don't need no stinkin facts.

You have swallowed too many lies.

>Zimmerman ...

He's a liar.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57406183/video-shows-zimmerman-without-blood-bruises/

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:23:51 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:

><* US *> wrote in message news:71f7n7taf2o3bclca...@4ax.com...
>> Zimmerman got away with assaulting a cop.
>> Zimmerman's father's obviously a liar, too.
>>
>> http://rollingout.com/culture/george-zimmerman-son-of-a-retired-judge-has-3-closed-arrests/
>-
>Too bad the hoody's [sic] record is ...

Martin was innocent, and had the right to defend himself

[*us*]

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:35:19 -0700, Pimples <geo...@si.not> wrote:

>...want to believe ...

Your idols are liars and violent criminals, Pimples.

The neocon pawn stupidly admires the authoritarian instead of the authoritative.

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:49:13 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:

>.We don't need no stinkin facts.

You have swallowed too many lies.

>Zimmerman ...

He's a liar.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57406183/video-shows-zimmerman-without-blood-bruises/

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:23:51 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:

><* US *> wrote in message news:71f7n7taf2o3bclca...@4ax.com...
>> Zimmerman got away with assaulting a cop.
>> Zimmerman's father's obviously a liar, too.
>>
>> http://rollingout.com/culture/george-zimmerman-son-of-a-retired-judge-has-3-closed-arrests/
>-
>Too bad the hoody's [sic] record is ...

Martin was innocent, and had the right to defend himself

[George Plimpton]

No, it did not say he was chasing him. Look again.

>>>
>>> 2) Why did Zimmerman get out of his car?
>>
>> You'd have to ask him.
>>
>>
>>> 3) Who started the confrontation - the
>>> chaser or the chased?
>>
>> Martin. Zimmerman told the police he was headed *back* to his car
>> because he lost sight of Martin.
>
>
> Why did he get OUT of his car?

He had every right and reason to get out of his car. It's none of your
business or anyone's business why he got out of his car.

>> Then Martin reappeared and approached
>> Zimmerman, asked him if he "had a problem" with Martin, to which
>> Zimmerman replied no, and then Martin said, "Well, you do now" and
>> slugged him.
>>
>> The confrontation was started by Martin.
>
>
> How does does a pedestrian start a confrontation
> with a driver in a moving car?

Zimmerman wasn't in a moving car. He was out of his car checking on a
suspicious person who didn't live in the neighborhood. He had every
right and reason to do so. Martin, the thug, approached him and slugged
him. Martin started it.

[William Hale]

In article <nMWdnbaanY_ZDu7S...@giganews.com>,

They are silent about a black killed by another black because the police
don't let the shooter go free without any charge when the police have
the shooter in custody.

[George Plimpton]

No, they're silent about blacks killing other blacks by the thousands
because there's no political gain in it - no idiots for them to manipulate.

The police let Zimmerman go because the local prosecutor said there
wasn't enough evidence to obtain a conviction.

[William Hale]

In article <1cednbceKoVMbO7S...@giganews.com>,

But that is what the outrage is about: many people think the case wasn't
investigated thoroughly or sufficiently enough.

[George Plimpton]

On 3/28/2012 10:35 PM, William Hale wrote:
> In article<1cednbceKoVMbO7S...@giganews.com>,

They think that only because they've been ginned up by the usual cast of
race-baiting shit stirrers with the help of the willing allies in the media.

[William Hale]

In article <saqdnVyx1Lzpau7S...@giganews.com>,

Let take another true example of the "Stand your ground" law.

A neighbor gets in an argument with another neighbor who put out 8 bags
of garbage when the limit is only 6 bags. The argument gets heated and
the first neighbor shoots the second neighbor who put out the 8 bags.
The shooter is not charged because of the "Stand your ground" law. I am
outraged about this. You may be happy about things like this, but many
people are not.

[William Hale]

In article <saqdnVyx1Lzpau7S...@giganews.com>,

In any case, I was trying to respond to your claim of why "they're
silent about blacks killing other blacks by the thousands". My response
is that the outrage is due to the perceived lack of pursuit of the case
by the police or by the local prosecutor (since apparently the police
thought it was not a case of self-defense, but the prosecutor thought
otherwise). The outrage is not due to a non-black killing a black
(except in so far as that situation enhances this type of injustice to
happen).

[George Plimpton]

On 3/28/2012 10:52 PM, William Hale wrote:
> In article<saqdnVyx1Lzpau7S...@giganews.com>,

If Martin had been shot by another black who thought Martin didn't
belong on the shooter's turf, the media - and you - wouldn't have said a
word about it. You'd have never known about it.

This event is being played for all it's worth by political characters
who have an interest in fanning flames of racial discord.

[George Plimpton]

On 3/28/2012 10:58 PM, William Hale wrote:
> In article<saqdnVyx1Lzpau7S...@giganews.com>,

The prosecution seldom prosecutes black-on-black homicides with any
great zeal.

[William Hale]

In article <B9qdnd40YfzjYe7S...@giganews.com>,

You still are not understanding what I am trying to say.

Your example should be phrased:

=========================================

If Martin had been shot by another black who thought Martin didn't

belong on the shooter's turf and the police didn't charge the shooter
and let him go free without a thorough investigation, the media - and

you - wouldn't have said a word about it.

===================================================

Has this happen? You think this is acceptable?

Usually the situation is the following: an innocent person is charged
with a murder and people fight to have him freed. Here the situation is
a person is not charged with a murder and people fight to have him put
on trial (or at least to have a better investigation). The second case
is not that common. One example of the second case I can think of is
when Ted Kennedy got into a car accident and caused a girl to drown.
There was outrage over that case also. Or there any other cases where a
person is not charged with a crime that the public thought he should
have been charged?

[William Hale]

In article <B9qdndg0YfxFYe7S...@giganews.com>,

Are you saying that they have the suspect in custody and they just let
him go free?

[George Plimpton]

On 3/28/2012 11:19 PM, William Hale wrote:
> In article<B9qdnd40YfzjYe7S...@giganews.com>,

I'm understanding it perfectly well. You're pretending this is about
community concern with less than thorough police investigation, and it
isn't. First, there are thousands of black-on-black crimes that get no
more than a cursory police investigation, in many cases because
witnesses won't talk. Second, there is no legitimate reason to think
this investigation was any less thorough or complete than any other.
The issue - the *only* issue - in this case is a contrived racial one.
You want to pretend it's something other than that, but it isn't.

[George Plimpton]

On 3/28/2012 11:21 PM, William Hale wrote:
> In article<B9qdndg0YfxFYe7S...@giganews.com>,

It is not in any way clear that Zimmerman committed a crime, or at least
not the crime for which the mob is baying for his blood.

[William Hale]

In article <l-6dnUaAitotmunS...@giganews.com>,

Here we are not talking about Zimmerman. We are talking about
black-on-black homicides. In those cases, are you saying that they have

[Dakota]

On 3/29/2012 1:19 AM, William Hale wrote:
> In article<B9qdnd40YfzjYe7S...@giganews.com>,

The Bush-Cheney regime's authorization of torture in violation of the
treaties we've signed comes to mind.

[William Hale]

In article <jl12nb$19k$2...@dont-email.me>, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
wrote:

Also, the Aruba case where the father influenced the police in their
investigation of his son who was never charged in the disappearance of
the missing girl.

[BroilJAB]

Obama has given up re election hopes
and now attacking Hispanics

[hypatiab7]

On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:22:35 AM UTC-7, (unknown) wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:11:01 -0700, Pimples <geo...@si.not> wrote:
>
> >Blowjob...I Hate the US...
>
> You do have problems, Pimples.
>
> You certainly can't dispute a word from this:
>
> http://www.mediaite.com/tv/lawrence-odonnell-and-charles-blow-give-george-zimmerman-pal-joe-oliver-epic-grilling/

Not only has Zimmerman's 'friend' turned out
to be just an acquaintance but a recording
has been released of Zimmerman arriving at
the police station on the night he murdered
Trayvon Martin. The is no broken nose or signs
of any head injuries. The cops lied about all
of that. Plus, the main cop wanted Zimmerman
to stay in jail and be investigated. He didn't
believe his story. And, another witness that the
cops were ignoring after a half hour interview
weeks ago stepped forward with a lawyer tonight.

[BroilJAB]

The liberal media would have gotten away
with this (like Clinton raping Lewinsky)
if NOT for the Internet. They showed over
and over an old photo of a pre-teen youth,
and in fact was a football player 6 4 and 250lbs.
He was a doper, had burglary tools, expelled
from school, attacked with intent to kill the
jewish Zimmerman. The Black criminal element
is irate that Netizens have short-circuited all
their games.

[*us*]

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 20:20:09 -0700, Tim Howard <tim.h...@suddenlink.net> wrote:

>On 3/28/2012 1:06 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
>> He would have had, if that's how it happened, but it didn't happen that
>> way. "Trayvon" initiated the violence - he slugged Zimmerman when
>> Zimmerman hadn't done anything to him.
>
>First of all, the real George Plimpton is turning over in his grave
>because you use his name.

Pimples doesn't have any credibility whatsoever,
so he has to try to steal from others. He exemplifies
the lack of ethics or morals of the teapotty pawn.

>The new video obtained by ABC shows Zimmerman is lying. He clearly was
>not given a broken nose nor was the back of his head banged against the
>ground for over 1 minute. Not a drop of blood on him. He is clearly
>unhurt in that video. Care to retract your above statement?

Pimples loves his lies.

[BroilJAB]

Yet more news out on Trevion today.
Includes arrests for dope, attempted rape.

[Mitchell Holman]

George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote in

news:KoSdnXheZdK1ce7S...@giganews.com:

"The teen started to run"

Zimmerman's own words while following him.

From your OWN CITE, no less.

>
>
>>>>
>>>> 2) Why did Zimmerman get out of his car?
>>>
>>> You'd have to ask him.
>>>
>>>
>>>> 3) Who started the confrontation - the
>>>> chaser or the chased?
>>>
>>> Martin. Zimmerman told the police he was headed *back* to his car
>>> because he lost sight of Martin.
>>
>>
>> Why did he get OUT of his car?
>
> He had every right and reason to get out of his car. It's none of your
> business or anyone's business why he got out of his car.
>
>
>>> Then Martin reappeared and approached
>>> Zimmerman, asked him if he "had a problem" with Martin, to which
>>> Zimmerman replied no, and then Martin said, "Well, you do now" and
>>> slugged him.
>>>
>>> The confrontation was started by Martin.
>>
>>
>> How does does a pedestrian start a confrontation
>> with a driver in a moving car?
>
> Zimmerman wasn't in a moving car. He was out of his car checking on a
> suspicious person who didn't live in the neighborhood.

That is just what I said. Zimmerman started
the confrontation.

> He had every
> right and reason to do so. Martin, the thug, approached him and
slugged
> him. Martin started it.

You don't know who slugged who first. Nor
do you know who said what first. You DO know
who started the confrontation - Zimmerman.

[Mitchell Holman]

George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote in

news:l-6dnUaAitotmunS...@giganews.com:

>
> It is not in any way clear that Zimmerman committed a crime, or at
> least not the crime for which the mob is baying for his blood.

Shooting an unarmed teenager is not a crime?

[George Plimpton]

On 3/29/2012 12:00 AM, William Hale wrote:
> In article<l-6dnUaAitotmunS...@giganews.com>,

Yes, you are, by implication.

> We are talking about
> black-on-black homicides. In those cases, are you saying that they have
> the suspect in custody and they just let him go free?

When was a suspect in custody in the Florida shooting case?

[Wayne]

<* US *> wrote in message news:h1n7n79809bm3qvo2...@4ax.com...

> The neocon pawn stupidly admires the authoritarian instead of the
> authoritative.
>
> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:49:13 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>

>>.We don't need no stinkin facts.
>

> You have swallowed too many lies.
>
>>Zimmerman ...
>
> He's a liar.
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57406183/video-shows-zimmerman-without-blood-bruises/
>

A grainy video shot at a distance in poor light after medical treatment?
You don't have any stinkin' facts there.

[George Plimpton]

You lied. Martin started the confrontation, and you know it. Martin
got in Zimmerman's face, told him "You do [have a problem] now", and
slugged him. That was the beginning of the confrontation, and Martin
started it.

>> He had every right and reason to do so. Martin, the thug, approached
>> him and slugged him. Martin started it.
>
>
> You don't know who slugged who first.

We *do* know. Martin slugged Zimmerman to start the confrontation.
Zimmerman didn't even *see* Martin until Martin approached Zimmerman to
start the confrontation. Zimmerman had lost sight of Martin and was
returning to his car, when Martin suddenly emerged from someplace and
started the confrontation. This suggests that right before the moment
when Martin started the confrontation, it was Martin who was stalking
Zimmerman.

[George Plimpton]

Shooting anyone in self defense is not a crime.

[BroilJAB]

Hispanics IRATE at Obama Attacks on Them

[William Hale]

In article <GKSdnY-lFMv76OnS...@giganews.com>,

The police were talking to Zimmerman minutes after the shooting. The
police took Zimmerman to the police station to question him. Zimmerman
was handcuffed. Zimmerman was in custody of the police.

[George Plimpton]

On 3/29/2012 8:39 AM, William Hale wrote:
> In article<GKSdnY-lFMv76OnS...@giganews.com>,

Ah, so you now admit that we were talking about Zimmerman all along.
Why did you say above that we weren't?

Was he a suspect in a particular crime? Do you know what it is to be an
official suspect of a crime?

> The police took Zimmerman to the police station to question him.
> Zimmerman was handcuffed. Zimmerman was in custody of the police.

All correct. Does that make him a suspect in an unequivocal crime?

[William Hale]

In article <Gc6dnc9Nw9MzGunS...@giganews.com>,

No, I was addressing only your last statement "When was a suspect in

custody in the Florida shooting case?"

> Why did you say above that we weren't?

Because I am trying to also reach a conclusion on your claim of why

"they're silent about blacks killing other blacks by the thousands."

They are not vocal on a black killing another black if the killer is
charged. What would you want them to protest against: that the killer
should be freed? You hinted that you meant rather that the police are
not diligent in apprehending the killer in a black on black killing
because the clues are difficult to follow and the witnesses don't want
to talk, etc. But, that is not the case here: the shooter admits to
killing the victim. Going back to my original question: are you saying
that there are thousands of cases where a black kills another black
person and the police let him go free after questioning the shooter,
where many people feel the shooter should be put on trial?

>
> Was he a suspect in a particular crime? Do you know what it is to be an
> official suspect of a crime?
>
>
>
> > The police took Zimmerman to the police station to question him.
> > Zimmerman was handcuffed. Zimmerman was in custody of the police.
>
> All correct. Does that make him a suspect in an unequivocal crime?

Yes, it makes him a suspect. The police need to question him to see if
he should be charged with shooting someone unlawfully. You seem to be
claiming that if he is innocent of an unlawful act, then he is not a
suspect. The police cannot know if it was an unlawful act until they
question the suspect.

[George Plimpton]

On 3/29/2012 9:24 AM, William Hale wrote:
> In article<Gc6dnc9Nw9MzGunS...@giganews.com>,

Which is what you were getting at by implication all along, of course.

>> Why did you say above that we weren't?
>
> Because I am trying to also reach a conclusion on your claim of why
> "they're silent about blacks killing other blacks by the thousands."

No, you're not really trying to reach a conclusion about that. You're
trying to engage in the usual left-wing sophistry about it.

> They are not vocal on a black killing another black if the killer is
> charged.

They aren't vocal on it, period. Leftists, of all races and
ethnicities, simply look on it as black culture - "what they do."

> What would you want them to protest against: that the killer
> should be freed?

I would expect more outrage that very often no one is ever apprehended
as a suspect.

You know that this outrage over the Florida shooting isn't really
because Zimmerman was let go, or at least it isn't simply over that. If
the police looked at the case and concluded there was reasonable belief
that it was self defense, as Zimmerman claimed, why *wouldn't* they
release him?

No, the issue - and you know this - is that he was released and he's
considered "white". That's what the outrage is all about. If
everything in the case was the same, but the shooter were black, we
wouldn't be hearing much of anything at all about this. Obama wouldn't
have stuck his nose into it. When a black honor student was beat to
death by a black mob in Chicago in 2009, Obama didn't say a word.

>> Was he a suspect in a particular crime? Do you know what it is to be an
>> official suspect of a crime?
>>
>>
>>
>>> The police took Zimmerman to the police station to question him.
>>> Zimmerman was handcuffed. Zimmerman was in custody of the police.
>>
>> All correct. Does that make him a suspect in an unequivocal crime?
>
> Yes, it makes him a suspect.

You don't know what "suspect" means, obviously.

Is there an unequivocal crime in question here? If it really was a
shooting in self defense, was there a crime?

> The police need to question him to see if
> he should be charged with shooting someone unlawfully.

They already have.

> You seem to be
> claiming that if he is innocent of an unlawful act, then he
> is not a suspect.

With every post, you demonstrate you don't know what "suspect" means.

> The police cannot know if it was an unlawful act until they
> question the suspect.

Sorry, no; that's not how it works. In any case, they *have* questioned
Zimmerman. Based on what he told them and what they got from other
sources in their investigation, he was released. It happens all the time.

As we have seen, though, it isn't the release /per se/ that is causing
all the turmoil - it's the fact that he is "white" and was released, and
the left believe as a matter of ideology that if a white kills a black
in a circumstance like this, he must be guilty, not just of murder but
of a hate crime.

[*us*]

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 07:41:56 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:

>A grainy video shot at a distance in poor light ...

So pull your head out and get a better view.

>...don't have any stinkin' facts ...

Yet you support shooting innocent people anyway.

The neocon pawn stupidly admires the authoritarian instead of the authoritative.

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:49:13 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:

>.We don't need no stinkin facts.

You have swallowed too many lies.

>Zimmerman ...

He's a liar.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57406183/video-shows-zimmerman-without-blood-bruises/

[*us*]

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 07:51:58 -0700, Pimples <geo...@si.not> wrote:

>...self defense is not a crime.

Martin was justified in resisting his attacker.

The neocon pawn stupidly admires the authoritarian instead of the authoritative.

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:49:13 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:

>.We don't need no stinkin facts.

You have swallowed too many lies.

>Zimmerman ...

He's a liar.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57406183/video-shows-zimmerman-without-blood-bruises/

[*us*]

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 07:51:02 -0700, Pimples <geo...@si.not> wrote:

>...Martin started the confrontation...

False: Zimmerman had been stalking him.

[Jeanne Douglas]

And there's liarboi lying again about an innocent child being murdered
by an adult 11 years older and 100 pounds heavier. Liarboi obviously
supports the murder of children.

JD

[Wayne]

"* US *" wrote in message news:qb89n75hh3rc2skae...@4ax.com...

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 07:41:56 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
wrote:

>>A grainy video shot at a distance in poor light ...

>So pull your head out and get a better view.

>>...don't have any stinkin' facts ...

>Yet you support shooting innocent people anyway.

>The neocon pawn stupidly admires the authoritarian instead of the
>authoritative.

>On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:49:13 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
>wrote:

>>.We don't need no stinkin facts.

>You have swallowed too many lies.

>>Zimmerman ...

>He's a liar.

<snip>

>Martin was innocent, and had the right to defend himself
>from the violent aggression of his stalker.

If the legal system examines the case in a fair way, I don't give a rat's
ass if Zimmerman fries or not.

YOU on the other hand, based solely on having a black killed by a white,
won't accept any outcome except your own prejudiced view.

[*us*]

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:08:36 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:

>... I don't give a rat's

>ass if Zimmerman fries or not.

You'd be against the death penalty if you were better educated.

>YOU ...

Your fallacy isn't a valid argument.

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 07:41:56 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:

>A grainy video shot at a distance in poor light ...

So pull your head out and get a better view.

>...don't have any stinkin' facts ...

Yet you support shooting innocent people anyway.

The neocon pawn stupidly admires the authoritarian instead of the authoritative.

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:49:13 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:

>.We don't need no stinkin facts.

You have swallowed too many lies.

>Zimmerman ...

He's a liar.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57406183/video-shows-zimmerman-without-blood-bruises/

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:23:51 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:

><* US *> wrote in message news:71f7n7taf2o3bclca...@4ax.com...
>> Zimmerman got away with assaulting a cop.
>> Zimmerman's father's obviously a liar, too.
>>
>> http://rollingout.com/culture/george-zimmerman-son-of-a-retired-judge-has-3-closed-arrests/
>-
>Too bad the hoody's [sic] record is ...

[Wayne]

"* US *" wrote in message news:mn5an7tau19ffgvgs...@4ax.com...

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:08:36 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
wrote:

>>... I don't give a rat's
>>ass if Zimmerman fries or not.
>
>You'd be against the death penalty if you were better educated.

-
You'd be for the death penalty if you weren't a pussy.

And again, you are not interested in facts. You are interested in having
YOUR biases validated. Any other outcome will be unacceptable, and you will
be out in the streets wearing a hoodie, screaming about racism, and inciting
crowds to lynch Zimmerman.

[*us*]

On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 09:28:22 -0700, "Pussy Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:

>... a pussy.

That must be why you want to kill people first and not bother asking questions.

>... not interested in facts.

You merely want people killed without any facts.

>... to lynch ...

What Zimmerman did to Martin was rather similar.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/30/trayvon-martin-lawyers-evidence-leaks-zimmerman?newsfeed=true

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:08:36 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:

>... I don't give a rat's
>ass if Zimmerman fries or not.

You'd be against the death penalty if you were better educated.

[Alex]

"William Hale" <ha...@tulane.edu> schreef in bericht
news:hale-BBF008.0...@news.eternal-september.org...

> In article <nMWdnbaanY_ZDu7S...@giganews.com>,
> George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote:

> > That's exactly how the leftards need to see it.
> >
> > Meanwhile, they're silent about the thousands upon thousands of blacks
> > killed by other blacks every year.
>
> They are silent about a black killed by another black because the police
> don't let the shooter go free without any charge when the police have
> the shooter in custody.

Why are rightwing radio listeners so stupid? Because they listen to
rightwing radio, or because only stupid people listen to rightwing
radio if they can help it?

Alex

[Alex]

"George Plimpton" <geo...@si.not> schreef in bericht
news:p66dnZK32_3X8u7S...@giganews.com...
> Blowjob, aka *I Hate the US*, lied:

> > Martin was innocent,
>
> No.

>
> > and had the right to defend himself
> > from the violent aggression of his stalker.
>

> He would have had, if that's how it happened, but it didn't happen that
> way. "Trayvon" initiated the violence - he slugged Zimmerman when
> Zimmerman hadn't done anything to him.

Just make sure any attorney knows how stupid you
are before he puts you on a jury.

Alex

[Alex]

"Bradley K. Sherman" <b...@panix.com> schreef in bericht news:jl068q$23c$1...@reader1.panix.com...

> George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote:
> >
> >No, nothing in that says that Zimmerman "jumped out" of his car or
> >"confronted" the kid.
> >
>

> It most certainly does say that. Compare the address from
> the 911 call with the address where the body was found.
>
> --bks

The other 'George' is so special that he doesn't understand
what evidence is, or is intelligent enough to follow a crime
even if it has been caught on tape.

Alex

[George Plimpton]

On 3/28/2012 4:18 PM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
> George Plimpton<geo...@si.not> wrote:
>>
>> No, nothing in that says that Zimmerman "jumped out" of his car or
>> "confronted" the kid.
>>
>
> It most certainly does say that.

No, it does not say that he "jumped out" of his car, nor does it say
that he "confronted" the kid. Stop lying.

[George Plimpton]

On 3/28/2012 10:11 PM, William Hale wrote:

> In article<nMWdnbaanY_ZDu7S...@giganews.com>,
> George Plimpton<geo...@si.not> wrote:
>

>> On 3/28/2012 12:49 PM, Wayne wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "* US *" wrote in message

>>> news:7fl6n7p0s3qv0spr8...@4ax.com...

>>>
>>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:23:51 -0700, "Wayne"<mygarb...@verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> <* US *> wrote in message
>>>>> news:71f7n7taf2o3bclca...@4ax.com...
>>>>>> Zimmerman got away with assaulting a cop.
>>>>>> Zimmerman's father's obviously a liar, too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://rollingout.com/culture/george-zimmerman-son-of-a-retired-judge-has
>>>>>> -3-closed-arrests/
>>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>> Too bad the hoody's [sic] record is ...
>>>>

>>>> Martin was innocent, and had the right to defend himself

>>>> from the violent aggression of his stalker.

>>> -
>>> In other words....We don't need no stinkin facts.
>>> Zimmerman (a white man) shot Trayloon (a black man). Case closed.
>>

>> That's exactly how the leftards need to see it.
>>
>> Meanwhile, they're silent about the thousands upon thousands of blacks
>> killed by other blacks every year.
>
> They are silent about a black killed by another black because the police
> don't let the shooter go free without any charge when the police have
> the shooter in custody.

Not arresting Zimmerman and keeping him in custody was the correct
course at that time.

[Brian E. Clark]

In article <3d394$4fbbabe7$546a7070$9403
@cache80.multikabel.net>, avdeelen.R...@ziggo.nl
says...

> > He would have had, if that's how it happened, but it didn't happen that
> > way. "Trayvon" initiated the violence - he slugged Zimmerman when
> > Zimmerman hadn't done anything to him.
>
> Just make sure any attorney knows how stupid you
> are before he puts you on a jury.

Defense attornies *love* to place distractable fools like
Plimpton on their juries.

--
-----------
Brian E. Clark

[*us*]

More witnesses are recanting their stories.

http://newsone.com/2016878/george-zimmerman-witness/

[*us*]

http://newsone.com/2016878/george-zimmerman-witness/

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 07:51:58 -0700, Pimples <geo...@si.not> wrote:

>...self defense is not a crime.

Martin was justified in resisting his attacker.

The neocon pawn stupidly admires the authoritarian instead of the authoritative.

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:49:13 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:

>.We don't need no stinkin facts.

You have swallowed too many lies.

>Zimmerman ...

He's a liar.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57406183/video-shows-zimmerman-without-blood-bruises/

[Dakota]

On 5/22/2012 8:16 PM, * US * wrote:
> More witnesses are recanting their stories.
>
> http://newsone.com/2016878/george-zimmerman-witness/
>

It's likely that a few of Zimmerman's fans who post here will dismiss
the story at your link because it comes from News One for Black
Americans. I've posted the link cited at the News One story below.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/os-george-zimmerman-key-witnesses-20120522,0,3635603.story

[Randal Scripter]

Those don't materially affect anything. Because of the shifting
stories, it will create doubt that will benefit Zimmerman.

"Witness 2" - story changed twice, once by adding a detail about how far
apart two people were that she claims to have seen, second time by
saying she only saw one person. She also had just taken out her contact
lenses. Her testimony will go nowhere.

"Witness 12" - first interviewed more than three weeks after the
shooting, began by saying she couldn't tell who was on top in the fight.
Six days later, says she was "sure" it was Zimmerman: "I think
Zimmerman was definitely on top because of his size". Martin, of
course, was four to six inches taller than Zimmerman.

"Witness 6" - originally said it definitely was Martin on top, Zimmerman
was the one calling for help, and Martin was "just throwing down blows
on the guy, MMA-style". Three weeks later, he's no longer sure
Zimmerman was the one calling for help, no longer sure that Martin was
"throwing down" MMA-style punches, but is adamant that Martin was on top.

"Witness 13" - after initially giving a fairly bland report about how
Zimmerman behaved immediately after the shooting, adds A MONTH later
that Zimmerman acted "like [the shooting] was nothing", i.e., no big
deal. This won't go anywhere, either.


None of this materially weakens Zimmerman's case.

[William Hale]

In article <aMCdncaCoYgNMybS...@giganews.com>,

I was saying nothing about whether or not keeping Zimmerman in custody
was the correct course at the time.

Rather, I was responding to the statement "Meanwhile, they're silent

[George Plimpton]

On 5/22/2012 10:28 PM, William Hale wrote:
> In article<aMCdncaCoYgNMybS...@giganews.com>,

You responded to it with a non sequitur about Zimmerman having been
released initially without charge. His release was proper, and does not
have any bearing on why blacks are silent about many thousands of blacks
killed by other blacks. You're being disingenuous.

[William Hale]

In article <fcudnZyvgef75CHS...@giganews.com>,

The people protesting don't think his release was proper. If they
thought his release was proper, then they would not have protested.

Compare with the following situation. A person is convicted of a murder
and sent to jail for life. Later it is learned that the person is really
innocent (see many movies about such cases). Then people protest that he
should not have been sent to jail and that he should be freed. But, you
respond "Meanwhile, they're silent about the thousands of other men
sentence to life for murder every year". Are you claiming the protesters
who want the man freed need to protest the freeing of all the other men
sentenced to jail for life for murder that they have no reason to think
are not guilty?

[JLS]

On May 23, 2:00 am, William Hale <bill...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <fcudnZyvgef75CHSnZ2dnUVZ5oedn...@giganews.com>,

>  George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 5/22/2012 10:28 PM, William Hale wrote:

> > > In article<aMCdncaCoYgNMybSnZ2dnUVZ5oCdn...@giganews.com>,

> > >   George Plimpton<geo...@si.not>  wrote:
>
> > >> On 3/28/2012 10:11 PM, William Hale wrote:

> > >>> In article<nMWdnbaanY_ZDu7SnZ2dnUVZ5qCdn...@giganews.com>,

> > >>>    George Plimpton<geo...@si.not>   wrote:
>
> > >>>> On 3/28/2012 12:49 PM, Wayne wrote:
>
> > >>>>> "* US *" wrote in message
> > >>>>>news:7fl6n7p0s3qv0spr8...@4ax.com...
>

> > >>>>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:23:51 -0700, "Wayne"<mygarbage...@verizon.net>

You are trying to reason with a wack. Pimples is a wack. Funny but
really kinda sad too.

[*us*]

Good point and thank you.

[*us*]

On Tue, 22 May 2012 22:45:01 -0700, Pimples <geo...@si.not> wrote:

>... proper...

How would you know? You can't even post
to newsgroups without stealing someone
else's name.

>... blacks are silent about many thousands of blacks
>killed by other blacks...

They're not. You're merely an idiot, Pimples.

>being disingenuous.

You do have problems.

No wonder you worship the violent racist
vigilante druggie Zimmerman as your idol.

http://newsone.com/2016878/george-zimmerman-witness/

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 07:51:58 -0700, Pimples <geo...@si.not> wrote:

>...self defense is not a crime.

Martin was justified in resisting his attacker.

The neocon pawn stupidly admires the authoritarian instead of the authoritative.

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:49:13 -0700, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:

>.We don't need no stinkin facts.

You have swallowed too many lies.

>Zimmerman ...

He's a liar.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57406183/video-shows-zimmerman-without-blood-bruises/

[*us*]

On Tue, 22 May 2012 18:47:57 -0700, Randam Slurper <lick.d...@SouthTeats.conn> wrote:

>...will benefit Zimmerman.

You want him to get away with his crime, don't you.

>... Zimmerman acted "like [the shooting] was nothing"...

Of course he did. That's telling.

You're not expected to be able to understand.

More witnesses are recanting their stories.

http://newsone.com/2016878/george-zimmerman-witness/

It goes to the impropriety of the initial 'investigation', too.

[deadrat]

On 5/23/12 9:20 AM, * US * wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2012 18:47:57 -0700, Randam Slurper<lick.d...@SouthTeats.conn> wrote:
>
>> ...will benefit Zimmerman.
>
> You want him to get away with his crime, don't you.
>
>> ... Zimmerman acted "like [the shooting] was nothing"...
>
> Of course he did.

Are you sure? And if he didn't act they way you judge proper, might he
just have bene an ordinary person stunned by the fact that he'd just
killed someone? If not, why not?

> That's telling.

I think the response to the Zimmerman-Martin tragedy tells us more about
the responders than the participants.

But that's just me.

[*us*]

On Wed, 23 May 2012 17:38:36 -0500, deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote:

>Are you sure?

I'm quite certain that it's inappropriate to profile,
or stalk, or harass, or shoot an innocent kid.

>And if he didn't act they way you judge proper

Do you approve of profiling, stalking, harassing,
and shooting an innocent kid?

>, might he
>just have bene [sic] an ordinary person stunned by the fact that he'd just

>killed someone? If not, why not?

He was known to hate and falsely accuse others,
to "snap", to commit violent assaults, and to lie
about those criminal acts.

>I think ...

Do you suppose some thought may have prevented
the perp from hunting down the murdered teenager?

On Tue, 22 May 2012 18:47:57 -0700, Randam Slurper <lick.d...@SouthTeats.conn> wrote:

>...will benefit Zimmerman.

You want him to get away with his crime, don't you.

>... Zimmerman acted "like [the shooting] was nothing"...