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Joe Bruno  
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 More options Nov 5 2012, 3:54 pm
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From: Joe Bruno <atandy...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 12:54:12 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 5 2012 3:54 pm
Subject: Attention, Atheists
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_burden_of_proof

You constantly demand evidence that God exists, yet when you are asked for
evidence of your own claims, you refuse and make excuses.

That makes you HYPOCRITES.


 
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Syd M.  
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 More options Nov 5 2012, 4:12 pm
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From: "Syd M." <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:12:22 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 5 2012 4:12 pm
Subject: Re: Attention, Atheists
On Nov 5, 3:54 pm, Joe Bruno <atandy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_burden_of_proof

> You constantly demand evidence that God exists, yet when you are asked for
> evidence of your own claims, you refuse and make excuses.

> That makes you HYPOCRITES.

Nope.

PDW


 
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sbalneav  
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 More options Nov 5 2012, 4:19 pm
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From: sbalneav <sbaln...@alburg.net>
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 21:19:49 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Mon, Nov 5 2012 4:19 pm
Subject: Re: Attention, Atheists

Joe Bruno <atandy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_burden_of_proof

> You constantly demand evidence that God exists, yet when you are asked for
> evidence of your own claims, you refuse and make excuses.

> That makes you HYPOCRITES.

Name a claim I've made that I haven't backed up with evidence.  You even wanted
statistics on your posting history, which, I note with some bemusement, you
haven't commented on, probably because you didn't expect me to be able to do
it.

You name the claim I *haven't* backed up with evidence, I'll proceed to back it
up.

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(_ |_) |   -- Democritus
__)|_) |


 
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Discussion subject changed to "Attention, Religious Morons" by Davej
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 More options Nov 5 2012, 4:29 pm
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From: Davej <galt...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:29:30 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 5 2012 4:29 pm
Subject: Attention, Religious Morons
On Nov 5, 2:54 pm, Joe Bruno <atandy...@gmail.com> wrote:

Atheists rarely demand evidence that God exists -- because we know you
don't have any evidence. You just have your imaginary friends and hear
voices in your head. This is due to a well-known psychological
disorder known as schizophrenia.

The burden of proof is on those making claims, especially claims of an
extraordinary nature, such as the claim of the existence of an all
powerful, all knowing, eternal, magical creator being. Such a all
powerful being could do anything with essentially no effort, so why
couldn't this being communicate in a clear and obviously genuine
manner? Why is the Bible nothing more than cobbled together fables
written by men, edited by men, selected by men, copied by men, and
containing flaws and obvious fiction? A real GAWD could have just
presented Moses with a bound and essentially indestructible stainless
steel, chromium-plated manuscript. A real GAWD wouldn't need to fumble
through an evolutionary development process where 99% of created
species have gone extinct. A real GAWD wouldn't need to create a
universe of galaxies and billions of suns with apparently only one
measly planet supporting life.


 
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Discussion subject changed to "Attention, Atheists" by Christopher A. Lee
Christopher A. Lee  
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 More options Nov 5 2012, 4:41 pm
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From: Christopher A. Lee <chrislee95...@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:41:10 -0800
Local: Mon, Nov 5 2012 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: Attention, Atheists
On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 21:19:49 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav

<sbaln...@alburg.net> wrote:
>Joe Bruno <atandy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_burden_of_proof

>> You constantly demand evidence that God exists,

Only to get the question-begging morons either to put up or shut up.

Which the pathological liar knows because it has been explained over
and over again.

>>                                                                            yet when you are asked for
>> evidence of your own claims, you refuse and make excuses.

>> That makes you HYPOCRITES.

He just can't stop lying, can he?

What "claims" is he pretending we're making?

>Name a claim I've made that I haven't backed up with evidence.  You even wanted
>statistics on your posting history, which, I note with some bemusement, you
>haven't commented on, probably because you didn't expect me to be able to do
>it.

Exactly.

Don't expect any honesty from this one.

>You name the claim I *haven't* backed up with evidence, I'll proceed to back it
>up.

He can't. Because his fundie cognitive dissonance makes him see what
he expects and makes the rest of it vanish as if it had never been
said.

 
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Discussion subject changed to "Attention, Religious Morons" by Mitchell Holman
Mitchell Holman  
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 More options Nov 5 2012, 4:54 pm
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From: Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net>
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 15:54:59 -0600
Local: Mon, Nov 5 2012 4:54 pm
Subject: Re: Attention, Religious Morons
Davej <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:3d5996e5-7f50-4342-a788-
b97076abb...@h9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:

   A real god would not create a humanity so flawed
that he would have to destroy it all in a world wide
flood.

 
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Mitchell Holman  
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 More options Nov 5 2012, 4:56 pm
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From: Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net>
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 15:56:11 -0600
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Subject: Re: Attention, Atheists
Joe Bruno <atandy...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:d3bded8e-0a1e-4255-9ea4-07cedd2965a6@googlegroups.com:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_burden_of_proof

> You constantly demand evidence that God exists, yet when you are asked
> for evidence of your own claims, you refuse and make excuses.

    What claims are you talking about?

 
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Mike Painter  
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 More options Nov 5 2012, 6:42 pm
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From: Mike Painter <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 15:42:38 -0800
Local: Mon, Nov 5 2012 6:42 pm
Subject: Re: Attention, Atheists
On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 12:54:12 -0800 (PST), Joe Bruno

<atandy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_burden_of_proof

>You constantly demand evidence that God exists, yet when you are asked for
>evidence of your own claims, you refuse and make excuses.

>That makes you HYPOCRITES.

How exactly would you prove that something does not exist?
Start simple. How about any one of the Hindu gods.
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Christopher A. Lee  
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 More options Nov 5 2012, 6:47 pm
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From: Christopher A. Lee <chrislee95...@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 15:47:50 -0800
Local: Mon, Nov 5 2012 6:47 pm
Subject: Re: Attention, Atheists
On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 15:42:38 -0800, Mike Painter

<mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 12:54:12 -0800 (PST), Joe Bruno
><atandy...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_burden_of_proof

>>You constantly demand evidence that God exists, yet when you are asked for
>>evidence of your own claims, you refuse and make excuses.

>>That makes you HYPOCRITES.

>How exactly would you prove that something does not exist?
>Start simple. How about any one of the Hindu gods.

It is however the falsifiable default pending evidence that they do.

And reinforced into a conclusion by every intellectually dishonest
copout, fallacy, lie about what we do or don't claim and other
personal falsehoods, etc.


 
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Barry OGrady  
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 More options Nov 5 2012, 7:25 pm
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From: Barry OGrady <athe...@hotmail.com.au>
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 11:25:33 +1100
Local: Mon, Nov 5 2012 7:25 pm
Subject: Re: Attention, Atheists
On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 15:42:38 -0800, Mike Painter

<mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 12:54:12 -0800 (PST), Joe Bruno
><atandy...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_burden_of_proof

>>You constantly demand evidence that God exists, yet when you are asked for
>>evidence of your own claims, you refuse and make excuses.

>>That makes you HYPOCRITES.

>How exactly would you prove that something does not exist?

The Christian God has been assigned the characteristics of almighty
and loving, but we don't see the results of such.

 
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linuxgal  
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From: linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com>
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 17:55:46 -0800
Local: Mon, Nov 5 2012 8:55 pm
Subject: Re: Attention, Atheists

Mike Painter wrote:
> How exactly would you prove that something does not exist?

You can't.  It's a big universe, and you'd have to check under every
rock.  So we prefer to make claimants show us that something exists.

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 More options Nov 5 2012, 8:59 pm
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From: RedDog <reddog1...@budweiser.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:59:06 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 5 2012 8:59 pm
Subject: Re: Attention, Atheists
On Nov 5, 9:12 pm, "Syd M." <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Nov 5, 3:54 pm, Joe Bruno <atandy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_burden_of_proof

> > You constantly demand evidence that God exists, yet when you are asked for
> > evidence of your own claims, you refuse and make excuses.

> > That makes you HYPOCRITES.

> Nope.

> PDW

Kudos on your very thoughtful and informative argument, Sydley. LOL.
Just kidding.  But at least you didn't misspell any words for a
change. :-)

 
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 More options Nov 6 2012, 8:11 am
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From: MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 08:10:45 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 6 2012 8:10 am
Subject: Re: Attention, Atheists

On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 12:54:12 -0800, Joe Bruno wrote:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_burden_of_proof

> You constantly demand evidence that God exists, yet when you are asked for
> evidence of your own claims, you refuse and make excuses.

> That makes you HYPOCRITES.

I claim that there is no good evidence that gods exist.  I claim that
widespread belief in gods is better explained by human psychology than by
their actual existence.

The evidence of my claims is lack of evidence to the contrary.  If you
wish to refute my claim that "no good evidence exists", then present some
good evidence.  We atheists have been waiting for thousands of years, and
so far none has come forth.

Clear enough for you?

--
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Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 08:55:28 -0600
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Subject: Re: Attention, Atheists
Joe Bruno <atandy...@gmail.com> wrote in
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> htt

There is no god.

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 More options Nov 8 2012, 12:53 pm
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Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:53:24 -0600
Local: Thurs, Nov 8 2012 12:53 pm
Subject: Re: Attention, Religious Morons

On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:29:30 -0800 (PST), Davej <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 5, 2:54 pm, Joe Bruno <atandy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_burden_of_proof

>Atheists rarely demand evidence that God exists

That's right, because you know we have that all over the place.  But we don't
have proof.  So that's what you ask for.

The dukester, American - American
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Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:23:05 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 8 2012 2:23 pm
Subject: Re: Attention, Religious Morons
On Nov 5, 4:54 pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:

Yes He can because he has no one to answer to

 
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 More options Nov 8 2012, 6:48 pm
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Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 15:48:12 -0800
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Subject: Re: Attention, Religious Morons
In article <sasn98d4j91qvv4accauf9mafj6mmqm...@4ax.com>,

 duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:29:30 -0800 (PST), Davej <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> >On Nov 5, 2:54 pm, Joe Bruno <atandy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_burden_of_proof

> >Atheists rarely demand evidence that God exists

> That's right, because you know we have that all over the place.  But we don't
> have proof.  So that's what you ask for.

Why such a stupid and transparent lie? Are you having a bad day?

Oh, of course you are. It's only 2 days since your boy Mitt lost.

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Christopher A. Lee  
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Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 15:54:34 -0800
Local: Thurs, Nov 8 2012 6:54 pm
Subject: Re: Attention, Religious Morons
On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 15:48:12 -0800, Jeanne Douglas

<hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>In article <sasn98d4j91qvv4accauf9mafj6mmqm...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:

>> On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:29:30 -0800 (PST), Davej <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> >On Nov 5, 2:54 pm, Joe Bruno <atandy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_burden_of_proof

>> >Atheists rarely demand evidence that God exists

Only when theists talk about it as if it were real - when the onus is
on them to put up or shut up.

>> That's right, because you know we have that all over the place.  But we don't
>> have proof.  So that's what you ask for.

Lie noted.

>Why such a stupid and transparent lie? Are you having a bad day?

It's Puke doing what Puke does.

>Oh, of course you are. It's only 2 days since your boy Mitt lost.

Does the sociopath ever have a good one?

 
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From: linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 18:22:58 -0800
Local: Thurs, Nov 8 2012 9:22 pm
Subject: Re: Attention, Religious Morons

duke wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:29:30 -0800 (PST), Davej <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> On Nov 5, 2:54 pm, Joe Bruno <atandy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_burden_of_proof

>> Atheists rarely demand evidence that God exists

> That's right, because you know we have that all over the place.  But we don't
> have proof.  So that's what you ask for.

You don't have to prove it, Duke.  Proof is for number theory anyway.
All you have to do is show us one Bible prophecy that came true, as
advertised, other than something like "Tyre shall be sacked" because all
cities were sacked in those days.

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