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Few findings in the social sciences have been more definitively
demonstrated than the fact that children do best when raised by their
own married mother and father. The non-partisan research group Child
Trends summarized the evidence this way:


Research clearly demonstrates that family structure matters for
children, and the family structure that helps the most is a family
headed by two biological parents who are in a low-conflict marriage.


Homosexual activists say that having both a mother and a father does not
matter—it is having two loving parents that counts. But social science
research simply does not support this claim.
Dr. Kyle Pruett of Yale Medical School, for example, has demonstrated in
his book Fatherneed that fathers contribute to parenting in ways that
mothers do not.


On the other hand, Dr. Brenda Hunter has documented the unique
contributions that mothers make in her book, The Power of Mother Love.
The truth is that most research on “homosexual parents” thus far has
been marred by serious methodological problems.


However, even pro-homosexual sociologists Judith Stacey and Timothy
Biblarz report that the actual data from key studies show the “no
differences” claim to be false.Surveying the research (primarily
regarding lesbians) in an American Sociological Review article in
2001, they found that:


• Children of lesbians are less likely to conform to traditional gender
norms.

• Children of lesbians are more likely to engage in homosexual behavior.

• Daughters of lesbians are “more sexually adventurous and less chaste.”

• Lesbian “co-parent relationships” are more likely to break up than
heterosexual marriages.


A 1996 study by an Australian sociologist compared children raised by
heterosexual married couples, heterosexual cohabiting couples and
homosexual cohabiting couples. It found that the children of
heterosexual married couples did the best, and children of homosexual
couples did the worst, in nine of the thirteen academic and social
categories measured.


The clear superiority (in outcomes for children) of households with a
married, biological mother and father; the limited but revealing
research on children raised by homosexual parents; and the
inherent mental and physical health risks and dysfunctional behaviors
associated with homosexual relationships—all of these combine to suggest
that we should be exceedingly cautious about deliberately placing
children in the care of homosexuals, whether through foster care,
adoption, or the use of artificial reproductive technologies.













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juanjo

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Feb 8, 2012, 12:00:56 AM2/8/12
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On Feb 7, 8:35 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> Few findings in the social sciences have been more definitively
> demonstrated than the fact that children do best when raised by their
> own married mother and father.

Our resident troll is up to his same old tricks again.

In a study, published June 2010 in the journal Pediatrics,
researchers focused on what they call planned lesbian families —
households in which the mothers identified themselves as lesbian at
the time of artificial insemination.
The authors found that children raised by lesbian mothers — whether
the mother was partnered or single — scored very similarly to children
raised by heterosexual parents on measures of development and social
behavior. These findings were expected, the authors said; however,
they were surprised to discover that children in lesbian homes scored
higher than kids in straight families on some psychological measures
of self-esteem and confidence, did better academically and were less
likely to have behavioral problems, such as rule-breaking and
aggression.

"We simply expected to find no difference in psychological adjustment
between adolescents reared in lesbian families and the normative
sample of age-matched controls," says Gartrell. "I was surprised to
find that on some measures we found higher levels of [psychological]
competency and lower levels of behavioral problems. It wasn't
something I anticipated."

Then we have a separate study done in 2004 which found:

Teenagers raised by lesbian mothers show no developmental differences
compared to those brought up by heterosexual parents, according to the
first large national study in the US. The researchers found no
differences between the two groups in terms of depression, anxiety,
self-esteem and school grades. Exactly the same proportion of both
groups also reported having had sex (34%).

But while a previous study suggested children of gay parents were more
likely to consider homosexual relationships, this study was unable to
provide such information because so few teens reported same-sex
attractions and romances.

The single most important predictor of the teens' well being, the
study showed, was their relationship with parents - regardless of
family type. "What's really important is the quality of the
relationship," Russell told New Scientist.

*************************************************************

And study after study over the years has cited to that last issue as
being the most important in any study. Namely how involved the
parents were in the life of the child. The gender or sexual
orientation was not nearly as relevant as the degree of involvement in
a positive sense of the parents in the child's life. This is the
simple fact that drives J and other bigoted trolls like him absolutely
bonkers.

Davej

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Feb 8, 2012, 12:25:58 AM2/8/12
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On Feb 7, 10:35 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> [...]

So then this is your excuse? You weren't dropped on your head? Your
daddy ran off with another guy?

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Feb 8, 2012, 2:03:20 AM2/8/12
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On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:35:21 -0800,
"Jon Young"/"Auric Hellman" <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:


> Children do best when raised by both a mother AND a father...

...OR by two mothers. OR by two fathers.

All EQUALLY-good scenarios.

NEXT-best is for them to have ONE loving & caring parent -- as
is currently the case for HALF of all the children in the USA.


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Feb 8, 2012, 1:59:07 AM2/8/12
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And yet bloated deviant Hillary says,
'It takes a village of homosexualists'.

Ray Fischer

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J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>Few findings in the social sciences have been more definitively
>demonstrated than the fact that children do best when raised by their
>own married mother and father.

And those that don't have a mother AND father?

You nazi turds like to throw undesirables in the trash, don't you?

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Loirbaj

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Feb 8, 2012, 6:21:29 AM2/8/12
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Keep children FAR from deviants.
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ColdWarDinosaur

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Feb 8, 2012, 10:22:15 AM2/8/12
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Mr.B1ack wrote:
> How about a Mommy and a Daddy who
> used to be a Mommy before the
> operation ... ? :-)
>
> Actually, the kiddies who seem to turn
> out the strongest and best adjusted come
> out of 'crowded' homes - be they multi-
> generational or whatever. They get to
> interact with lots of different people,
> lots of personality types, lots of
> situations .... improves their level
> of understanding, teaches them more
> ways to cope with problems and hones
> their psychological resilence.
>
> Ergo a GROUP marriage - with lots of
> Mommies and Daddies and half-sibs would
> fit your requirements even better than
> a traditional boring 1+1 hetero marriage.
>

So here's the question no-one is talking about:

Do gay parents raise gay children even if they have been adopted? If
so, its nurture not nature and faulty imprinting.
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Feb 8, 2012, 11:34:09 AM2/8/12
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On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 10:22:15 -0500,
"ColdWarDinosaur" <wynnehenry!@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


[ ... ]


> So here's the question no-one is talking about:
>
> Do gay parents raise gay children even if they have been
> adopted? If so, its nurture not nature and faulty imprinting.

Here you go:

http://www.egalitarian.biz/Gay-Parents.html

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J

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On 2/8/2012 7:22 AM, ColdWarDinosaur wrote:

>>
>
> So here's the question no-one is talking about:
>
> Do gay parents raise gay children even if they have been adopted? If
> so, its nurture not nature and faulty imprinting.




The article provides details that conclude that a girl raised by two
lesbos will invariably become a lesbian herself. No doubt that the same
principle applies to boys raised by a couple of homos. The best solution
is for 'same-sex' couples to adopt a dog or cat. There are many pets who
could use a good home.




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JohnN

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Feb 8, 2012, 11:38:56 AM2/8/12
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Facts are powerless against IBen's Wac-a-doodle Theology.

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On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 08:39:34 -0800,
"Jon Young"/"AURIC HELLMAN" <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
> "ColdWarDinosaur" wrote:


>> So here's the question no-one is talking about:
>>
>> Do gay parents raise gay children even if they have been adopted?
>> If so, its nurture not nature and faulty imprinting.

> The article provides details that conclude that a girl raised by two
> lesbos will invariably become a lesbian herself.

Making its author as MORONIC as *you* are.


duke

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On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 01:03:20 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
<http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <b...@c.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:35:21 -0800,
>"Jon Young"/"Auric Hellman" <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Children do best when raised by both a mother AND a father...
>
> ...OR by two mothers. OR by two fathers.

No, they will be functionally outcasts.

duke, American - American

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On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:19:37 -0600,
Earl Weber ("duke") <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:


...wrote NOTHING intelligent.

<flush>


Previous post follows:

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:35:21 -0800,
"Jon Young"/"Auric Hellman" <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:


> Children do best when raised by both a mother AND a father...

...OR by two mothers. OR by two fathers.

*us*

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Jeanne Douglas

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On Feb 7, 10:59 pm, Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> And yet bloated deviant Hillary says,
> 'It takes a village of homosexualists'.

What's a homosexualist?

JD

DCI

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On Feb 8, 10:51 am, * US * wrote:
> http://healthland.time.com/2012/02/06/why-spanking-doesnt-work/?iid=h...

Absolutely!

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J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote in news:5cpjje....@news.alt.net:

>
>
>
>
> Few findings in the social sciences have been more definitively
> demonstrated than the fact that children do best when raised by their
> own married mother and father.

Stop lying, IBen.

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Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote in
news:dce6e32e-4f46-4afc...@dn8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:


> And yet bloated deviant Hillary says,
> 'It takes a village of homosexualists'.
>

And you take any lies you can to justify yer hatred.

Paul David Wright

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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:lkb5j7dei0n4ndfjm...@4ax.com:


> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 01:03:20 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
> <http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <b...@c.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:35:21 -0800,
>>"Jon Young"/"Auric Hellman" <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Children do best when raised by both a mother AND a father...
>>
>> ...OR by two mothers. OR by two fathers.
>
> No, they will be functionally outcasts.
>

Sez you, Dork.
And you are wrong.

Paul David Wright

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Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote in
news:da4a35d0-f7a1-45f3...@t30g2000vbx.googlegroups.com:


> Keep children FAR from deviants.
>

Yeah, they don't need to get ideas from deviants like YOU, Liarboi.

Paul David Wright

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J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote in news:5cqu1c....@news.alt.net:


> On 2/8/2012 7:22 AM, ColdWarDinosaur wrote:
>
>>>
>>
>> So here's the question no-one is talking about:
>>
>> Do gay parents raise gay children even if they have been adopted? If
>> so, its nurture not nature and faulty imprinting.
>
>
>
>
> The article provides details that conclude nothing at all, since it's
all hateful homophobic lies.

DanielSan

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Feb 8, 2012, 8:02:29 PM2/8/12
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On 2/8/2012 4:34 PM, Paul David Wright wrote:
> J<jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote in news:5cpjje....@news.alt.net:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Few findings in the social sciences have been more definitively
>> demonstrated than the fact that children do best when raised by their
>> own married mother and father.
>
> Stop lying, IBen.

How else would he get the attention he covets? He's already shown he's
incapable of telling the truth, so....

Paul Duca

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On Feb 8, 12:19 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 01:03:20 -0600, "(¯`·.¸  Craig Chilton  ¸.·´¯)
>
> <http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <b...@c.com> wrote:
> >On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:35:21 -0800,
> >"Jon Young"/"Auric Hellman" <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> >>       Children do best when raised by both a mother AND a father...
>
> >     ...OR by two mothers.  OR by two fathers.
>
> No, they will be functionally outcasts. That's how my Church says to treat them.

duke

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On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:36:14 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
<http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <b...@c.com> wrote:


>> Children do best when raised by both a mother AND a father...
> ...OR by two mothers. OR by two fathers.

Social outcasts then.

Mitchell Holman

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Feb 9, 2012, 9:13:26 AM2/9/12
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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in news:qvg7j75dile3fe12emb4ggl9e4ulbgtkv2
@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:36:14 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
> <http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <b...@c.com> wrote:
>
>
>>> Children do best when raised by both a mother AND a father...
>> ...OR by two mothers. OR by two fathers.
>
> Social outcasts then.


Have you told that to Mary Cheney and Heather
Poe and the daughter they are raising together?




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On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:19:37 -0600,
Earl Weber ("duke") <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:


...wrote NOTHING intelligent.

<flush>


Previous post follows:

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:35:21 -0800,
"Jon Young"/"Auric Hellman" <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:


> Children do best when raised by both a mother AND a father...

...OR by two mothers. OR by two fathers.

juanjo

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Feb 9, 2012, 11:17:32 AM2/9/12
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On Feb 8, 8:39 am, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> On 2/8/2012 7:22 AM, ColdWarDinosaur wrote:
>
>
>
> > So here's the question no-one is talking about:
>
> > Do gay parents raise gay children even if they have been adopted? If
> > so, its nurture not nature and faulty imprinting.
>
> The article provides details that conclude that a girl raised by two
> lesbos will invariably become a lesbian herself.

No J, it does not say that at all except in your imagination

juanjo

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On Feb 9, 5:03 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:36:14 -0600, "(¯`·.¸  Craig Chilton  ¸.·´¯)
>
> <http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <b...@c.com> wrote:
> >>       Children do best when raised by both a mother AND a father...
> >     ...OR by two mothers.  OR by two fathers.
>
> Social outcasts then.
>

Poor Dukie. He just hates it when reality comes up and bites his
religious superstitions in the ass.

W.T.S.

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Feb 9, 2012, 2:59:35 PM2/9/12
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In article <lkb5j7dei0n4ndfjm...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 01:03:20 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
> <http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <b...@c.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:35:21 -0800,
> >"Jon Young"/"Auric Hellman" <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Children do best when raised by both a mother AND a father...
> >
> > ...OR by two mothers. OR by two fathers.
>
> No, they will be functionally outcasts.
Bull shit. They've turned out just fine. There's no difference. Are
lies and slogans all you have, "duke"?
>
> puke, AmeriKKKan - Liar.
>

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Feb 9, 2012, 3:02:05 PM2/9/12
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In article <qvg7j75dile3fe12e...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:36:14 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
> <http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <b...@c.com> wrote:
>
> >> Children do best when raised by both a mother AND a father...
> > ...OR by two mothers. OR by two fathers.
>
> Social outcasts then.
Bull shit. Why do you lie so much, "duke"? Or, does your Church plan
to slander them so much they become outcasts? It would be typical of
your "Church".
>
> puke, AmeriKKKan - Liar - Slanderer

DanielSan

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Feb 9, 2012, 3:24:36 PM2/9/12
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On 2/9/2012 5:03 AM, duke wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:36:14 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
> <http://www.TravelForPay.org>"<b...@c.com> wrote:
>
>
>>> Children do best when raised by both a mother AND a father...
>> ...OR by two mothers. OR by two fathers.
>
> Social outcasts then.

That might've been the case when you were growing up, but half a century
later, things are very different.

duke

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Feb 9, 2012, 3:41:56 PM2/9/12
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I'm talking about the daughter as she grows up.

duke

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Feb 9, 2012, 3:42:27 PM2/9/12
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Wee one will feel the pressure.

duke

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Feb 9, 2012, 3:42:47 PM2/9/12
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Ask their daughter in a few years.

duke

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Feb 9, 2012, 3:43:20 PM2/9/12
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On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 14:02:05 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>In article <qvg7j75dile3fe12e...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:36:14 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
>> <http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <b...@c.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> Children do best when raised by both a mother AND a father...
>> > ...OR by two mothers. OR by two fathers.
>>
>> Social outcasts then.

>Bull shit. Why do you lie so much, "duke"? Or, does your Church plan
>to slander them so much they become outcasts? It would be typical of
>your "Church".

None are Roman Catholic.

DanielSan

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On 2/9/2012 12:42 PM, duke wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:24:36 -0800, DanielSan<daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2/9/2012 5:03 AM, duke wrote:
>>> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:36:14 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
>>> <http://www.TravelForPay.org>"<b...@c.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Children do best when raised by both a mother AND a father...
>>>> ...OR by two mothers. OR by two fathers.
>>>
>>> Social outcasts then.
>>
>> That might've been the case when you were growing up, but half a century
>> later, things are very different.
>
> Ask their daughter in a few years.

Studies have already shown that children with homosexual parents are no
different than children with heterosexual parents.

Barry OGrady

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On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:09:36 -0800, DanielSan
They get teased at school.

=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=
God is a spirit. 0% proof!

*us*

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Feb 9, 2012, 5:15:29 PM2/9/12
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The authoritarian "obey because otherwise I'll hit you"
escalates into progressively more-severe violence,
including that in direct/indirect retaliation.

DanielSan

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Feb 9, 2012, 6:17:34 PM2/9/12
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So, let's get this straight. We shouldn't allow couples to have or
adopt kids because they might get teased by bullies at school?!

duke

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On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 08:30:05 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
<http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <b...@c.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:19:37 -0600,
>Earl Weber ("duke") <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> ...wrote NOTHING intelligent.

If I wrote nothing intelligent, it's a matter of "garbage in, garbage out".
Sucker spoon.

duke

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They will be trashed by their peers.

duke

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Feb 10, 2012, 8:09:34 AM2/10/12
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Queers can't have children.

(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯) <http://www.TravelForPay.org>

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On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:19:37 -0600,
IMMATURE Dweeb, Earl Weber ("duke") <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:


...wrote NOTHING intelligent, AND ran off to a corner with
his pacifier to talk to his imaginary friends.

11111111_____
_,_ 111111111111\
___ / \ 111111111111\
\ | @ @ | 111111111111\
\-----oOO---Ooo-------------/
\11111111111111111111/
\1111 Earl Weber 111 /
\111111111111111111/
// \\
|| ||
OO OO

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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:09:34 -0600,
Earl Wwber ("duke") <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:


> Queers can't have children.

The word's QUEEREST people are its BIGOTS.

Unfortunately, ignorant lowlifes like YOU, *do*... churning
out MORE brainwashed-from-Day-One bigots to infest society
from their bigotry-factory homes.

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

*BIGOTS* are the World's QUEEREST People
in Terms of Being Worthless Sociopaths

= = = = = = = = = = = = =

Earl Weber ("duke") <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> (¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
> <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
>> Earl Weber ("duke") <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:


>>> I never think about [gay sex] except...

>> The fact that you think about it AT ALL makes you ABnormal as
>> a *straight*. But normal ONLY if you happen to be gay, still closet-
>> ed or otherwise. Just as it is NORMAL for all who are straights to
>> think a lot and fantasize about sex with opposite-sex partners.

> Queer sex is deviant behavior.

Well, since the QUEEREST people in the world are its mindless and
busybodyish BIGOTS -- I imagine that ANYTHING they do could logically
be regarded as deviant by sensible and intelligent people.

Especially THAT!! What a horrible thought -- BIGOTS *procreating*
and INFESTING society with even MORE bigots.

But the GOOD news for society, and the bad news for all those
bigoted DOLTS -- is that they ALL, young and old,, soon will be LOSERS
who will either duck into the closet in self-preservation -- or wilt be
social PARIAHS.
-- Monday, July 25, 2011

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Gay-Sex-OBSESSED, Gutter-Minded, Homophobic Bigots have the
IMMATURITY of 6-Year-old Boys Raised by LOWIFE Parents


"Funny how you bigots always drag sex into the conversation,
it shows just how frustrated and filthy minded you are."

-- "RamRod" <ram...@truthonly.com>, responding to one of
those social retards, on 7-1-11.

= = = = = = = = = = = = =

And how IRONIC it is that hundreds of MILLIONS of *straight* people
in the USA and BILLIONS of straights worldwide, routinely engage in the
SAME sex acts that the GAYS engage in. But the irrational and dishonest
homophobic bigots NEVER acknowledge THAT -- or WHINE about those
*straights* doing it.

Homophobic bigots are some of the most MORONIC lowlifes on the
face of the planet! No WONDER they are *fast* becoming the world's
biggest LAUGHINGSTOCKS! (LOL!!)

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

-- Craig Chilton (E-Mail me if you wish, from top 6 websites below.)

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Feb 10, 2012, 9:52:05 AM2/10/12
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:08:57 -0600,
Earl Weber ("duke") <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> "DanielSan" <daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Earl Weber ("duke" wrote:


[ ... ]

>>> Studies have already shown that children with
>>> homosexual parents are no different than children
>>> with heterosexual parents.

>> They will be trashed by their peers.

ONLY by LOWLIFE peers.

And LOWLIFES are worthless pond scum that
count for NOTHING.


Sparks

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On Feb 7, 9:25 pm, Davej <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 7, 10:35 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> > [...]
>
> So then this is your excuse? You weren't dropped on your head? Your
> daddy ran off with another guy?

Do you think your response of ridicule convinces anyone of anything,
other than give an immediate impression of your level of intellect?

Sparks

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Feb 10, 2012, 10:44:09 AM2/10/12
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On Feb 7, 11:28 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> J  <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> >Few findings in the social sciences have been more definitively
> >demonstrated than the fact that children do best when raised by their
> >own married mother and father.
>
> And those that don't have a mother AND father?

They'll have to do the best they can. It is a fact that our prisons
are filled with men who grew up in households without a father.

DanielSan

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Feb 10, 2012, 1:12:59 PM2/10/12
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On 2/10/2012 5:08 AM, duke wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:09:36 -0800, DanielSan<daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2/9/2012 12:42 PM, duke wrote:
>>> On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:24:36 -0800, DanielSan<daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/9/2012 5:03 AM, duke wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:36:14 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
>>>>> <http://www.TravelForPay.org>"<b...@c.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Children do best when raised by both a mother AND a father...
>>>>>> ...OR by two mothers. OR by two fathers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Social outcasts then.
>>>>
>>>> That might've been the case when you were growing up, but half a century
>>>> later, things are very different.
>>>
>>> Ask their daughter in a few years.
>>
>> Studies have already shown that children with homosexual parents are no
>> different than children with heterosexual parents.
>
> They will be trashed by their peers.

Not as much today as they were in your day, duke. And so what? Is that
a reason to deny marriage to gay couples?

DanielSan

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Feb 10, 2012, 1:13:36 PM2/10/12
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On 2/10/2012 5:09 AM, duke wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:17:34 -0800, DanielSan<daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2/9/2012 1:35 PM, Barry OGrady wrote:
>>> On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:09:36 -0800, DanielSan
>>> <daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/9/2012 12:42 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:24:36 -0800, DanielSan<daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/9/2012 5:03 AM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:36:14 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
>>>>>>> <http://www.TravelForPay.org>"<b...@c.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Children do best when raised by both a mother AND a father...
>>>>>>>> ...OR by two mothers. OR by two fathers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Social outcasts then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That might've been the case when you were growing up, but half a century
>>>>>> later, things are very different.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ask their daughter in a few years.
>>>>
>>>> Studies have already shown that children with homosexual parents are no
>>>> different than children with heterosexual parents.
>>>
>>> They get teased at school.
>>
>> So, let's get this straight. We shouldn't allow couples to have or
>> adopt kids because they might get teased by bullies at school?!
>
> Queers can't have children.

I'm not talking about that.

DanielSan

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Feb 10, 2012, 1:39:18 PM2/10/12
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How about a mother and stepfather?

Free Lunch

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Feb 10, 2012, 1:41:17 PM2/10/12
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:39:18 -0800, DanielSan <daniel...@gmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism:
Ever read any Grimms'?

Barry OGrady

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Feb 10, 2012, 2:43:20 PM2/10/12
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On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:17:34 -0800, DanielSan
That is but one reason.

Barry OGrady

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Feb 10, 2012, 2:44:18 PM2/10/12
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Bullys have a dramatic affect on people.

Barry OGrady

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Feb 10, 2012, 2:44:37 PM2/10/12
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:12:59 -0800, DanielSan
Yes.

DanielSan

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Feb 10, 2012, 2:45:23 PM2/10/12
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And yet, we don't disallow straight couples from having or adopting kids
that might get teased by bullies at school. How about a real reason for
disallowing gay couples from having or adopting kids?

duke

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Feb 10, 2012, 2:45:56 PM2/10/12
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:38:56 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
<http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <b...@c.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:19:37 -0600,
>IMMATURE Dweeb, Earl Weber ("duke") <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
> ...wrote NOTHING intelligent, AND ran off to a corner with
>his pacifier to talk to his imaginary friends.
>
> 11111111_____
> _,_ 111111111111\
>___ / \ 111111111111\
> \ | @ @ | 111111111111\
> \-----oOO---Ooo-------------/
> \11 spoon and satan 11/
> \111 are a couple 111 /
> \111111111111111111/
> // \\
> || ||
> OO OO

duke

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Feb 10, 2012, 2:46:27 PM2/10/12
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But heavily chastised by their peers.

DanielSan

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Feb 10, 2012, 2:46:51 PM2/10/12
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But, again, we don't deny marriage to straight couples if their kids are
"trashed by their peers". Again, how about a real reason?

duke

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Feb 10, 2012, 2:47:01 PM2/10/12
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:47:42 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
<http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <b...@c.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:09:34 -0600,
>Earl Wwber ("duke") <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>> Queers can't have children.
>
> The word's QUEEREST people are its BIGOTS.

Nobody cares what you think, satan boy.

duke

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Feb 10, 2012, 2:47:32 PM2/10/12
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You said it, not me.

duke

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Feb 10, 2012, 2:47:55 PM2/10/12
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But we follow God. You don't.

DanielSan

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Feb 10, 2012, 2:48:03 PM2/10/12
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On 2/10/2012 11:46 AM, duke wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:09:36 -0800, DanielSan<daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2/9/2012 12:42 PM, duke wrote:
>>> On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:24:36 -0800, DanielSan<daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/9/2012 5:03 AM, duke wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:36:14 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
>>>>> <http://www.TravelForPay.org>"<b...@c.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Children do best when raised by both a mother AND a father...
>>>>>> ...OR by two mothers. OR by two fathers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Social outcasts then.
>>>>
>>>> That might've been the case when you were growing up, but half a century
>>>> later, things are very different.
>>>
>>> Ask their daughter in a few years.
>>
>> Studies have already shown that children with homosexual parents are no
>> different than children with heterosexual parents.
>
> But heavily chastised by their peers.

Not any more than other kids.

duke

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Feb 10, 2012, 2:48:27 PM2/10/12
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Queers can't marry and have children.

DanielSan

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Feb 10, 2012, 2:49:17 PM2/10/12
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I'm talking about couples in general.

DanielSan

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Feb 10, 2012, 2:50:31 PM2/10/12
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On 2/10/2012 11:48 AM, duke wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:12:59 -0800, DanielSan<daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2/10/2012 5:08 AM, duke wrote:
>>> On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:09:36 -0800, DanielSan<daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/9/2012 12:42 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:24:36 -0800, DanielSan<daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/9/2012 5:03 AM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:36:14 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
>>>>>>> <http://www.TravelForPay.org>"<b...@c.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Children do best when raised by both a mother AND a father...
>>>>>>>> ...OR by two mothers. OR by two fathers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Social outcasts then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That might've been the case when you were growing up, but half a century
>>>>>> later, things are very different.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ask their daughter in a few years.
>>>>
>>>> Studies have already shown that children with homosexual parents are no
>>>> different than children with heterosexual parents.
>>>
>>> They will be trashed by their peers.
>>
>> Not as much today as they were in your day, duke. And so what? Is that
>> a reason to deny marriage to gay couples?
>
> Queers can't marry

They're not allowed, giving special rights to straight people.

> and have children.

Neither can some straight people. They either adopt
or....*gasp!*....don't have children at all!

Barry OGrady

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Feb 10, 2012, 3:09:45 PM2/10/12
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:46:51 -0800, DanielSan
<daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 10/2/2012 11:44 AM, Barry OGrady wrote:
>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:12:59 -0800, DanielSan
>> <daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
Child welfare is not a good reason?

Sparks

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Feb 10, 2012, 6:20:36 PM2/10/12
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If a stepfather takes on the role of father, then he's a father.

Sparks

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Feb 10, 2012, 6:23:54 PM2/10/12
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On Feb 10, 11:45 am, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/10/2012 11:43 AM, Barry OGrady wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:17:34 -0800, DanielSan
> > <danielsan1...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
> >> On 2/9/2012 1:35 PM, Barry OGrady wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:09:36 -0800, DanielSan
> >>> <danielsan1...@gmail.com>   wrote:
>
> >>>> On 2/9/2012 12:42 PM, duke wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:24:36 -0800, DanielSan<danielsan1...@gmail.com>    wrote:
>
> >>>>>> On 2/9/2012 5:03 AM, duke wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:36:14 -0600, "(¯`·.¸  Craig Chilton  ¸.·´¯)
> >>>>>>> <http://www.TravelForPay.org>"<b...@c.com>     wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>           Children do best when raised by both a mother AND a father...
> >>>>>>>>         ...OR by two mothers.  OR by two fathers.
>
> >>>>>>> Social outcasts then.
>
> >>>>>> That might've been the case when you were growing up, but half a century
> >>>>>> later, things are very different.
>
> >>>>> Ask their daughter in a few years.
>
> >>>> Studies have already shown that children with homosexual parents are no
> >>>> different than children with heterosexual parents.
>
> >>> They get teased at school.
>
> >> So, let's get this straight.  We shouldn't allow couples to have or
> >> adopt kids because they might get teased by bullies at school?!
>
> > That is but one reason.
>
> And yet, we don't disallow straight couples from having or adopting kids
> that might get teased by bullies at school.  How about a real reason for
> disallowing gay couples from having or adopting kids?

I wouldn't have a problem with a gay couple adopting an older child,
who otherwise would grow up in an orphanage. Since there are more
couples who want to adopt newborn babies than there are newborn
babies, I would prefer that newborn babies go to heterosexual married
couples. Based on thousands of years of civilization, the best
situation for a child is to be raised by a mother and a father.

Kat

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Feb 10, 2012, 6:37:30 PM2/10/12
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On Feb 10, 2:50 pm, DanielSan <danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Neither can some straight people.  They either adopt
> or....*gasp!*....don't have children at all!

lol... Why is it so many bigots skip over this important fact?
Inability to procreate does not make a heterosexual couple's marriage
null and void (at least in most societies) nor does it mean they would
be bad (or good, for that matter) parents.


(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯) <http://www.TravelForPay.org>

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Feb 10, 2012, 6:46:39 PM2/10/12
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On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:19:37 -0600,
IMMATURE Dweeb, Earl Weber ("duke") <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:


...wrote NOTHING intelligent, AND ran off to a corner with
his pacifier to talk to his imaginary friends.

11111111_____
_,_ 111111111111\
___ / \ 111111111111\
\ | @ @ | 111111111111\
\-----oOO---Ooo-------------/
\11111111111111111111/
\1111 Earl Weber 111 /
\111111111111111111/
// \\
|| ||
OO OO


Previous post follows:

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:35:21 -0800,
"Jon Young"/"Auric Hellman" <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:


> Children do best when raised by both a mother AND a father...

...OR by two mothers. OR by two fathers.

All EQUALLY-good scenarios.

NEXT-best is for them to have ONE loving & caring parent -- as
is currently the case for HALF of all the children in the USA.


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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:09:34 -0600,
Earl Wwber ("duke") <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:


> Queers can't have children.

The word's QUEEREST people are its BIGOTS.

Unfortunately, ignorant lowlifes like YOU, *do*... churning
out MORE brainwashed-from-Day-One bigots to infest society
from their bigotry-factory homes.

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

*BIGOTS* are the World's QUEEREST People
in Terms of Being Worthless Sociopaths

= = = = = = = = = = = = =

Earl Weber ("duke") <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> (¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
> <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com> wrote:
>> Earl Weber ("duke") <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:


>>> I never think about [gay sex] except...

>> The fact that you think about it AT ALL makes you ABnormal as
>> a *straight*. But normal ONLY if you happen to be gay, still closet-
>> ed or otherwise. Just as it is NORMAL for all who are straights to
>> think a lot and fantasize about sex with opposite-sex partners.

> Queer sex is deviant behavior.

Well, since the QUEEREST people in the world are its mindless and
busybodyish BIGOTS -- I imagine that ANYTHING they do could logically
be regarded as deviant by sensible and intelligent people.

Especially THAT!! What a horrible thought -- BIGOTS *procreating*
and INFESTING society with even MORE bigots.

But the GOOD news for society, and the bad news for all those
bigoted DOLTS -- is that they ALL, young and old,, soon will be LOSERS
who will either duck into the closet in self-preservation -- or wilt be
social PARIAHS.
-- Monday, July 25, 2011

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Gay-Sex-OBSESSED, Gutter-Minded, Homophobic Bigots have the
IMMATURITY of 6-Year-old Boys Raised by LOWIFE Parents


"Funny how you bigots always drag sex into the conversation,
it shows just how frustrated and filthy minded you are."

-- "RamRod" <ram...@truthonly.com>, responding to one of
those social retards, on 7-1-11.

= = = = = = = = = = = = =

And how IRONIC it is that hundreds of MILLIONS of *straight* people
in the USA and BILLIONS of straights worldwide, routinely engage in the
SAME sex acts that the GAYS engage in. But the irrational and dishonest
homophobic bigots NEVER acknowledge THAT -- or WHINE about those
*straights* doing it.

Homophobic bigots are some of the most MORONIC lowlifes on the
face of the planet! No WONDER they are *fast* becoming the world's
biggest LAUGHINGSTOCKS! (LOL!!)

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

-- Craig Chilton (E-Mail me if you wish, from top 6 websites below.)

http://www.LayoffRemedy.com -- Unemployment Solution!
http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com -- Fight the hateful RRR Cult!
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Feb 10, 2012, 6:48:03 PM2/10/12
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In article <b17d2643-8002-457f-a011-
014dd5...@d15g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>,
energizedc...@yahoo.com says...
_If_ they're available. But thanks to the "activities" of religious
nuts, there're more kids that need adoptive parents than parents.
Besides, many, if not most, adoptive male/female married couples aren't
fit to be parents. It's all in the screening.

Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.

(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯) <http://www.TravelForPay.org>

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Feb 10, 2012, 6:54:44 PM2/10/12
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:44:18 +1100,
Barry OGrady <ath...@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
> (¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
> <http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <b...@c.com> wrote:
>> Earl Weber ("duke") <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> "DanielSan" <daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Earl Weber ("duke" wrote:


[ ... ]

>>>>> Studies have already shown that children with
>>>>> homosexual parents are no different than children
>>>>> with heterosexual parents.

>>>> They will be trashed by their peers.

>> ONLY by LOWLIFE peers.
>>
>> And LOWLIFES are worthless pond scum that
>> count for NOTHING.

> Bullys have a dramatic affect on people.

ALL kids should be BROUGHT UP from Day One to know that
bullies are pond scum, and taught how to defend against them.

And they should be taught all of that before they get old
enough to encounter their FIRST bully.

DanielSan

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Feb 10, 2012, 6:55:44 PM2/10/12
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And if one of the female parents in a gay coupling takes on the role of
a father?

(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯) <http://www.TravelForPay.org>

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Feb 10, 2012, 6:57:40 PM2/10/12
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:47:55 -0600,
Earl Weber ("duke") <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> (¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
> <http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <b...@c.com> wrote:
>> Earl Weber ("duke") <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> "DanielSan" <daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Earl Weber ("duke" wrote:


[ ... ]

>>>>> Studies have already shown that children with
>>>>> homosexual parents are no different than children
>>>>> with heterosexual parents.

>>>> They will be trashed by their peers.

>> ONLY by LOWLIFE peers.
>>
>> And LOWLIFES are worthless pond scum that
>> count for NOTHING.

> But we follow...

...the "Handbook of IDIOCY," obviously.

Whomever wrote it managed to CON a lot of
lowlife-losers like you.

DanielSan

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Feb 10, 2012, 6:59:31 PM2/10/12
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Again, there's no evidence to show that a child raised by a homosexual
couple is any different from a child raised by a heterosexual couple.

(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯) <http://www.TravelForPay.org>

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Feb 10, 2012, 7:05:42 PM2/10/12
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:44:37 +1100,
Barry OGrady <ath...@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
> "DanielSan" <daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Earl Weber ("duke") wrote:
>>> "DanielSan"<daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:


[ ... ]

>>>> Studies have already shown that children with homosexual
>>>> parents are no different than children with heterosexual parents.

>>> They will be trashed by their peers.

>> Not as much today as they were in your day, duke. And so what?
>> Is that a reason to deny marriage to gay couples?

> Yes.

BZZZzzzttt!!! There is NO valid reason to exclude same-sex
couples from marriage. As is being rightfully PROVEN worldwide,
and here in the USA, at an ACCELERATING rate! ---

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

                                FREEDOM is ACCELERATING!

      Same-sex marriage (SSM) is REALITY, or is about to be, in all
these places, and the list is steadily and inexorably* growing:

   ( *  RRR & LDS Cultists:  Look up "inexorable."  Take it to heart.)

                          Full MARRIAGE EQUALITY Attained!

            •  The Netherlands was FIRST! (2001)
            •  Belgium (2003)
            •  Canada (2005)
            •  Spain (2005)
            •  South Africa (2006)
            •  Norway (2008)
            •  Sweden (2009)
            •  Iceland (2010)
            •  Mexico City, Mexico (3-4-2010)
            •  Argentina (Catholic nation) (2010)
            •  Portugal (2010)
            •  USA: Massachusetts (2004)
            •  USA: Connecticut (2008)
            •  USA: Vermont (2009). *Legislatively*!!
            •  USA: Iowa (2009) (IA Supreme Court, 9-0!)
            •  USA: New Hampshire (2009). *Legislatively*!!
            •  USA: Washington, D.C. (2010)
            •  USA: New York State (6-24-11). *Legislatively*!!
            •  USA: New Jersey: Not banned, but not endorsed.
            •  USA: New Mexico: Not banned, but not endorsed.
            •  USA: Rhode Island: Not banned, but not endorsed.

                                     CIVIL UNIONS Legal
                                       (One Step to Go!)

            •  Brazil -- Supreme Court legalizes same-sex
                unions and accords full rights, on May 5, 2011.
                (Largest national Catholic populace in the world!)
            •  Czech Republic (2006)
            •  Ecuador (2009)
            •  New Zealand (2004)
            •  United Kingdom (2005) (*Regarded* to be SSM!)***
            •  Uruguay (2008)
            •  Ireland, as of April, 2011
            •  USA: California (The people WON vs. Prop. 8; 2-7-12!)
            •  USA: Colorado (2009)
            •  USA: Delaware. (As of 1-1-2012)
            •  USA: Hawaii (1997). Improved on 1-1-2012.
            •  USA: Illinois, as of June1, 2011
            •  USA: Maryland (2008)
            •  USA: Nevada (2009)
            •  USA: New Jersey (2007)
            •  USA: Oregon (2008)
            •  USA: Rhode Island (2011)
            •  USA: Washington State (2007); About to be FREE!
            •  USA: Wisconsin (2009)

                        MARRIAGE EQUALITY PENDING

            •  Albania
            •  Cambodia
            •  Chile
            •  Hungary
            •  Nepal
            •  Peru
            •  Slovenia
            •  Venezuela
            •  Washington State, USA.
            •  Brazil -- Supreme Court legalized same-sex
                unions and accorded full rights, on 5-5-11.
                (Largest national Catholic populace in world.)
            •  California: Has 18,000 legally-married
                same-sex couples, and the future looks
                very BRIGHT, per THIS clear trend:
 http://www.Egalitarian.biz/CA-SSM-Progress--00-08.html

                   Populations that Support Marriage Equality

            •  Australia:     64% as of 2010.
            •  Britain:         61% the Population as of 2010.
            •  Eur. Union:  53% as of 2004.
            •  France:        64% as of 2004.  
            •  USA:            53% as of early 2011.
                                     *Opposition* is DECLINING fast!

                                           = = =

    ** Rhode Island, Maryland, France, & Israel now recognize
         same-sex married couples who have been legally married
         outside of the state/country.

  *** Only wording remains. ALL rights granted. So
         most Brits & the press sensibly CALL it marriage.


*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯) <http://www.TravelForPay.org>

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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:48:27 -0600,
Earl Weber ("duke") <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:


> Queers can't marry and have children.

Wrong. The country is INFESTED with queers like you
who DO just that!

The word's QUEEREST people are its BIGOTS.

Unfortunately, ignorant lowlifes like YOU, *do* marry (or
cohabitate, if they're somewhat more intelligent) and have
kids... churning out MORE brainwashed-from-Day-One bigots
to infest society from their bigotry-factory homes.

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

*BIGOTS* are the World's QUEEREST People
in Terms of Being Worthless Sociopaths

= = = = = = = = = = = = =

Earl Weber ("duke") <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> (¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)

Sparks

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Feb 10, 2012, 7:26:18 PM2/10/12
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Not possible. I'm glad I was raised by a man and a woman, not by two
women or two men. Each of my parents brought the strengths of his and
her gender into raising me. Two people of the same gender just cannot
do that.

DanielSan

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Feb 10, 2012, 7:29:07 PM2/10/12
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On 2/10/2012 4:26 PM, Sparks wrote:
> On Feb 10, 3:55 pm, DanielSan<danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2/10/2012 3:20 PM, Sparks wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 10, 10:39 am, DanielSan<danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2/10/2012 7:44 AM, Sparks wrote:
>>
>>>>> On Feb 7, 11:28 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>> J<jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Few findings in the social sciences have been more definitively
>>>>>>> demonstrated than the fact that children do best when raised by their
>>>>>>> own married mother and father.
>>
>>>>>> And those that don't have a mother AND father?
>>
>>>>> They'll have to do the best they can. It is a fact that our prisons
>>>>> are filled with men who grew up in households without a father.
>>
>>>> How about a mother and stepfather?
>>
>>> If a stepfather takes on the role of father, then he's a father.
>>
>> And if one of the female parents in a gay coupling takes on the role of
>> a father?
>
> Not possible.

Why not?

> I'm glad I was raised by a man and a woman, not by two
> women or two men. Each of my parents brought the strengths of his and
> her gender into raising me. Two people of the same gender just cannot
> do that.

I don't believe that. But, question: Which is more preferable: A
single parent or two parents of the same gender?

Sparks

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Feb 10, 2012, 7:27:27 PM2/10/12
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As I said, I would have no problem with a gay couple adopting an older
child who would otherwise grow up in an orphanage. But I would prefer
that newborn infants go to heterosexual married couples.

Free Lunch

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Feb 10, 2012, 7:47:53 PM2/10/12
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:27:27 -0800 (PST), Sparks
<energizedc...@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
How generous of you.

Free Lunch

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Feb 10, 2012, 7:48:22 PM2/10/12
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:26:18 -0800 (PST), Sparks
<energizedc...@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
So you assert from your simple experience.

DanielSan

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Feb 10, 2012, 7:49:01 PM2/10/12
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Again, there's no evidence to show that even infants going to homosexual
couples are any different than infants going to heterosexual couples.

Might make them more tolerant, in fact. I don't believe that homosexual
couples should have any less rights than heterosexual couples.

Free Lunch

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Feb 10, 2012, 7:58:27 PM2/10/12
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:49:01 -0800, DanielSan <daniel...@gmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism:
You're starting to sound like a moral follower of Jesus' teachings, not
a right-wing "Christian" who claims that God wants him to be a bigot.

DanielSan

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Feb 10, 2012, 9:08:10 PM2/10/12
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Shhh! I don't want to ruin my reputation a God-hater!

Barry OGrady

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Feb 10, 2012, 9:16:10 PM2/10/12
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:49:01 -0800, DanielSan
<daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 10/2/2012 4:27 PM, Sparks wrote:
>> On Feb 10, 3:59 pm, DanielSan<danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 10/2/2012 3:23 PM, Sparks wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Feb 10, 11:45 am, DanielSan<danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Homosexuality is legal.
Harassment of homosexuals is illegal.
That should be enough.

DanielSan

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Feb 10, 2012, 9:16:43 PM2/10/12
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No, it's not. They should enjoy the same rights and privileges as their
straight counterparts.

Barry OGrady

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Feb 10, 2012, 9:18:30 PM2/10/12
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:54:44 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Of course, but that doesn't stop it happening.
All you are doing is giving bullies more excuses.

DanielSan

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Feb 10, 2012, 9:19:08 PM2/10/12
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Alternatively, we could crack down on bullies instead of going after
parents and guardians.

Barry OGrady

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Feb 10, 2012, 9:31:36 PM2/10/12
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:19:08 -0800, DanielSan
<daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
We could start by not putting children with gay couples.

Barry OGrady

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Feb 10, 2012, 9:33:05 PM2/10/12
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:16:43 -0800, DanielSan
<daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
They do. The right to be themselves without harassment.
Anything more is special benefits.

DanielSan

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Feb 10, 2012, 9:49:07 PM2/10/12
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That's attacking the victim.

DanielSan

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Feb 10, 2012, 9:49:51 PM2/10/12
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No, they don't.

> The right to be themselves without harassment.
> Anything more is special benefits.

Really? So, they get everything that straight people get? Like
marriage? Ability to adopt? Hospital decisions?

juanjo

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Feb 10, 2012, 11:25:39 PM2/10/12
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On Feb 10, 5:08 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:

>
> >Studies have already shown that children with homosexual parents are no
> >different than children with heterosexual parents.
>
> They will be trashed by their peers.
>

Denial is not just a river in Egypt. For Dukie it is a way of life.

juanjo

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Feb 10, 2012, 11:27:05 PM2/10/12
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On Feb 10, 11:47 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:

> But we follow God.  You don't.
>

Dukie's arrogance knows no bounds.
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