Flood Evidence Found Using Google Earth
adman
using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant tsunami in the
Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits of
sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of satellite
sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater") that
seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so. The crater would have
created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high" and deposited "25 feet of rain
globally".
http://wavespace.info/archives/3-Flood-Evidence-Found-Using-Google-Earth.html
Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around the world?
Pink Freud
"adman" <72...@hottmail.et> wrote in message
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Wow. That's incredible.
Can you see Noah on Google Earth too?
Devil's Advocaat
> What really makes this astounding is that other geological researchers,
> using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant tsunami in the
> Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits of
> sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of satellite
> sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater") that
> seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so. The crater would have
> created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high" and deposited "25 feet of rain
> globally".
>
>
> Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around the world?
Hmmm, the article makes the claim that these chevrons were found using
Google Earth, but why no images from Google Earth or even a link back
to the page of Google Earth on which they are supposed to have been
found?
Ken
Can't you see?
They're right next to all those windmills ASSMan's slain
Vache
Pics or it didn't happen...
Pastor Dave
<72...@hottmail.et> spake thusly:
About 300 of them. But evolutionists would rather
take 48 billion different floods that span the Earth
and claim that there is no evidence for a world wide
flood, but rather, that there is only evidence of
individual, local floods. Yea right! If that many
floods happened, that should tell them something
and rest assured, for most it does and so, this is
nothing more than, "willing ignorance". :)
--
The wages of sin is death. Repent before payday.
Pastor Dave
<some...@here.com> spake thusly:
>"adman" <72...@hottmail.et> wrote in message
>
>> What really makes this astounding is that other geological researchers,
>> using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant tsunami in
>> the
>> Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits of
>> sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of satellite
>> sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater") that
>> seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so. The crater would have
>> created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high" and deposited "25 feet of
>> rain
>> globally".
>>
>> http://wavespace.info/archives/3-Flood-Evidence-Found-Using-Google-Earth.html
>>
>> Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around the
>> world?
>
>Wow. That's incredible.
>
>Can you see Noah on Google Earth too?
And this is the best the evolutionists can do,
when presented with the facts! And yet,
they think that somehow, "sarcasm = proof".
And what does that prove? That the following
is the proper question: Not too bright, huh?!
--
Satan subtracts and divides. God adds and multiplies.
Richard Anacker
Pink Freud schrieb:
>> http://wavespace.info/archives/3-Flood-Evidence-Found-Using-Google-Earth.html
> Wow. That's incredible.
>
> Can you see Noah on Google Earth too?
hm, no. Of course I opened GE at once, but no Noah, even no flood. But I
bet, this is again only to see by those "who want to see".
richie, blind for bullshit
--
Good, Fast, Cheap: Pick any two
Richard Anacker
Vache schrieb:
> Pics or it didn't happen...
Yes, of course faith is enough to make things happen.
Gosh...
Richard Anacker
Pastor Dave schrieb:
> But evolutionists would rather
> take 48 billion different floods that span the Earth
> and claim that there is no evidence for a world wide
> flood
Hey, who told you? Gawd?
Pink Freud
"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
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Pffttt. Brighter than thinking that evidence of a tsunami somehow makes a
ludicrous biblical account true.
I have more respect for Christians who admit the Noah's ark story is some
sort of fable than those who flail around desperately for evidence to
support it.
Can you really not see just how ridiculous the story is?
Richard Anacker
Pastor Dave schrieb:
> And this is the best the evolutionists can do,
> when presented with the facts!
ROTFLMFAO
Okay,
Bruce Masse, an environmental archaeologist at the Los Alamos National
Laboratory in New Mexico... analyzed 175 flood myths from around the world,
and tried to relate them to known and accurately dated natural events like
solar eclipses and volcanic eruptions. Among other evidence, he said, 14
flood myths specifically mention a full solar eclipse, which could have
been the one that occurred in May 2807 B.C.
Which of this "facts" points towards a global flood, Gawdman?
Okay, for you morons a fact is something different than for the rest of the
world, but point it out, maybe it's worth a good laughter.
Richard Anacker
Pink Freud schrieb:
> Can you really not see just how ridiculous the story is?
Didn't you read that he wrote that he is 100% stupid? "Pastor" he wrote.
richie
Pastor Dave
<some...@here.com> spake thusly:
Thanks for proving my point!
>I have more respect for Christians who admit the Noah's ark story is some
>sort of fable than those who flail around desperately for evidence to
>support it.
In other words, you only have respect for "Christians"
who reject the Bible. Yea, you're really bright, huh?!
>Can you not see how ridiculous this story is?
Can you not see how ridiculous you are for ignoring
the fact that there are too many flood areas to count
and yet, you insist that they're all separate floods?
Let's see... In addition to the scientific evidence
showing a vast amount of floods, we also have
about 300 flood accounts, which you dismiss all of.
Of course, no archeologist, nor any textual criticist
(both valid sciences) would do this, but hey, as
long as you do to avoid believing, that makes it
all a lie, right?!
Not too bright, huh?!
--
Use the force, idiot!
Pastor Dave
<seth.c...@gmail.com> spake thusly:
>> Hmmm, the article makes the claim that these chevrons were found using
>> Google Earth, but why no images from Google Earth or even a link back
>> to the page of Google Earth on which they are supposed to have been
>> found?
>
>Pics or it didn't happen...
Okay, so then, by your own claim of what
constitutes proof, show us pics of evolution
in the millions of stages required for
macroevolution, or it didn't happen.
Oh wait, I'm sorry! I forgot! Evolutionists
don't have to provide proof! Just insults
and demands that the other person prove
it's not true!
Hmmm... So why don't you do that here???
Oh yea, that's right! That rule only gets applied
for evolutionists! I forgot again, damn it!
--
When you get tangled up in your problems, be still.
God wants us to be still, so he can untangle the knot.
Richard Anacker
Pastor Dave schrieb:
> Can you not see how ridiculous you are for ignoring
> the fact that there are too many flood areas to count
> and yet,
Maybe too many for you to count, most normal people can count to higher
numbers than three.
gosh...
Pink Freud
"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
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Yup.. that's about the sum of it. Given that in places it contradicts
*itself*.
> Yea, you're really bright, huh?!
>
One does one's best.
>
>>Can you not see how ridiculous this story is?
>
> Can you not see how ridiculous you are for ignoring
> the fact that there are too many flood areas to count
> and yet, you insist that they're all separate floods?
>
Listen carefully. Evidence of floods != evidence of noah's ark.
In the same way, thunder and lightning is not evidence of Thor.
> Let's see... In addition to the scientific evidence
> showing a vast amount of floods, we also have
> about 300 flood accounts, which you dismiss all of.
>
Evidence of floods != evidence of noah's ark.
> Of course, no archeologist, nor any textual criticist
> (both valid sciences) would do this
So, by your logic, all archaeologists are Christians.
I guess you think Theologists are "scientists" too?
And that "Expelled" is a biting, decisive documentary.
Richard Anacker
Pastor Dave schrieb:
> Okay, so then, by your own claim of what
> constitutes proof, show us pics of evolution
> in the millions of stages required for
> macroevolution, or it didn't happen.
Why should someone try to explain science to *you*? You wouldn't understand
it anyway. No, not because you don't want, because you are not bright
enough, dumbo.
But show pix of gawd or jebus please. Or of your hell or your holy spooky
or whatever.
Pink Freud
"adman" <72...@hottmail.et> wrote in message
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Hey adman, you cowardly fuck!
Are you going to respond to this troll-storm you caused by cross posting
your off-topic shit all over usenet? Or just sit back and watch the
fireworks?
Pink Freud
"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 15 May 2008 11:40:32 -0700 (PDT), Vache
> <seth.c...@gmail.com> spake thusly:
>
>
>>> Hmmm, the article makes the claim that these chevrons were found using
>>> Google Earth, but why no images from Google Earth or even a link back
>>> to the page of Google Earth on which they are supposed to have been
>>> found?
>>
>>Pics or it didn't happen...
>
> Okay, so then, by your own claim of what
> constitutes proof, show us pics of evolution
http://chem.lapeer.org/Bio1Docs/Images/Evolution.jpg
Hatter
> On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:52:43 GMT, "Pink Freud"
>
>
>
>
>
> >"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:iv0p24pfjdmdg92d2...@4ax.com...
>
> >> On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:10:20 GMT, "Pink Freud"
>
> >>>"adman" <72...@hottmail.et> wrote in message
>
> >>>> What really makes this astounding is that other geological researchers,
> >>>> using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant tsunami in
> >>>> the
> >>>> Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits of
> >>>> sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of
> >>>> satellite
> >>>> sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater")
> >>>> that
> >>>> seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so. The crater would have
> >>>> created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high" and deposited "25 feet of
> >>>> rain
> >>>> globally".
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Lots of people have observed a lot of similar events over the years.
Fires for instance. So given the has been numberous observances of
fires, that means there was one great fire the engulfed the
earth....well at least it would mean so by using your line of
reasoning.
Hatter
raven1
<ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:52:43 GMT, "Pink Freud"
><some...@here.com> spake thusly:
>
>
>>"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:iv0p24pfjdmdg92d2...@4ax.com...
>>
>>> On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:10:20 GMT, "Pink Freud"
>>> <some...@here.com> spake thusly:
>>>
>>>>"adman" <72...@hottmail.et> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> What really makes this astounding is that other geological researchers,
>>>>> using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant tsunami in
>>>>> the
>>>>> Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits of
>>>>> sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of
>>>>> satellite
>>>>> sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater")
>>>>> that
>>>>> seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so.
Then it can't have caused the Biblical flood, which had to occur
considerably later, according to the chronology. 5,000 years ago is
only a century or so after the death of Adam, and well before Noah.
>>>>> The crater would have
>>>>> created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high"
What happens to tsunamis when they reach land? Hint: they don't stay
600 feet high for long.
>>>>> and deposited "25 feet of
>>>>> rain
>>>>> globally".
25 feet of rain, whether global or not, wouldn't even reach high
enough to cover my neighborhood in Brooklyn (Dyker Heights), much less
the highest mountains, as the Biblical account claims.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://wavespace.info/archives/3-Flood-Evidence-Found-Using-Google-Earth.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around the
>>>>> world?
>>>>
>>>>Wow. That's incredible.
>>>>
>>>>Can you see Noah on Google Earth too?
>>>
>>> And this is the best the evolutionists can do,
>>> when presented with the facts! And yet,
>>> they think that somehow, "sarcasm = proof".
>>>
>>> And what does that prove? That the following
>>> is the proper question: Not too bright, huh?!
>>>
>>
>>Pffttt. Brighter than thinking that evidence of a tsunami somehow makes a
>>ludicrous biblical account true.
>
>Thanks for proving my point!
>
>
>>I have more respect for Christians who admit the Noah's ark story is some
>>sort of fable than those who flail around desperately for evidence to
>>support it.
>
>In other words, you only have respect for "Christians"
>who reject the Bible. Yea, you're really bright, huh?!
Your notion that everything in the Bible is to be taken literally is a
minority view even among Christians.
>>Can you not see how ridiculous this story is?
>
>Can you not see how ridiculous you are for ignoring
>the fact that there are too many flood areas to count
>and yet, you insist that they're all separate floods?
Oddly enough, the same scientists who are able to uncover the evidence
for floods are also able to determine when they occurred to a great
degree of accuracy.
>Let's see... In addition to the scientific evidence
>showing a vast amount of floods,
Occurring at widely different times.
> we also have
>about 300 flood accounts, which you dismiss all of.
Floods occur all over the world. Why would it be a surprise that one
or more would be memorable enough that it passed down into the local
folklore?
We also have continuous records from civilizations (Egypt, China) who
somehow managed to miss noticing any global flood occurring at the
time.
Hatter
> On Thu, 15 May 2008 11:40:32 -0700 (PDT), Vache
>
> >> Hmmm, the article makes the claim that these chevrons were found using
> >> Google Earth, but why no images from Google Earth or even a link back
> >> to the page of Google Earth on which they are supposed to have been
> >> found?
>
> >Pics or it didn't happen...
>
> Okay, so then, by your own claim of what
> constitutes proof, show us pics of evolution
> in the millions of stages required for
> macroevolution, or it didn't happen.
>
> Oh wait, I'm sorry! I forgot! Evolutionists
> don't have to provide proof! Just insults
> and demands that the other person prove
> it's not true!
>
> Hmmm... So why don't you do that here???
>
> Oh yea, that's right! That rule only gets applied
> for evolutionists! I forgot again, damn it!
>
these fossils don't suddenly end at one point about 3000bc also
doesn't agree with you, the fact that if Noahs ark did exist the
logistics of it would require a craft anyone at that level of
technology would be unable to built disagrees with you. The fact that
each species would probly immediately be killed by congenital birth
defects within three generations off the ark disagree with you, the
genetic record disagrees with you, the scientific method disagrees
with you, every other mythology but your own disagrees with you, the
archeological record of human artifacts disagrees with you, reason
disagrees with you, the concept the plant life survived which would
have been destroyed disagrees with you, the actal number of gallons of
water in the world disagree with you
Or in other words: YOU ARE WRONG!
Hatter
adman
"Pink Freud" <some...@here.com> wrote in message
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Actually, Pastor Dave was doing a great job making you kooks chase your
tales so I decided to let him have some fun. It's amusing how easily you are
baited.
|
Brian E. Clark
anacker.de>, Richard Anacker said...
> > Can you see Noah on Google Earth too?
>
> hm, no. Of course I opened GE at once, but no Noah, even no flood. But I
> bet, this is again only to see by those "who want to see".
Spring is the time when pareidolia blooms.
--
-----------
Brian E. Clark
Pink Freud
"adman" <72...@hottmail.et> wrote in message
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Chasing tales, eh? I guess you should know about that.
adman
Well, since you do not have any evidence otherwise, I will assume you agree
here is some evidence of the flood. Of course the flood story of the Bible
is a bit embellished, however I could see how people of that time period
would assume the entire earth was being flooded and write it down as that.
That said added to this evidence, makes the flood story quite plausible.
while I am sure Noah was not seen with google earth, I am quite sure the
flood happened.
it is really THAT simple
adman
Not too bright at all. You seem to have this topic under control.
They all chase their tails shouting insults and no facts. Nothing new eh?
Richard Anacker
Brian E. Clark schrieb:
> Spring is the time when pareidolia blooms.
Thanx, I have heard of this effects but didn't know the name. A day without
learning something new is a bad day.
richie
Pink Freud
"adman" <72...@hottmail.et> wrote in message
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Evidence of flooding != evidence of THE biblical flood
> Of course the flood story of the Bible
> is a bit embellished,
What!? You don't believe the bible is the word of god? Say it aint so.
Uncle Vic
> On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:52:43 GMT, "Pink Freud"
>
>
>
> >"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:iv0p24pfjdmdg92d2...@4ax.com...
>
> >> On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:10:20 GMT, "Pink Freud"
>
> >>>"adman" <72...@hottmail.et> wrote in message
>
> >>>> What really makes this astounding is that other geological researchers,
> >>>> using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant tsunami in
> >>>> the
> >>>> Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits of
> >>>> sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of
> >>>> satellite
> >>>> sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater")
> >>>> that
> >>>> seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so. The crater would have
> >>>> created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high" and deposited "25 feet of
> >>>> rain
> >>>> globally".
>
OK, so there are a bunch of flood areas. So what? How did a small
group of people manage to round up every animal species on earth,
including those over 10,000 miles away, which would have had to be
transported to the Ark over thousands of miles of ocean? If you
resort to "kinds", you are admitting to the process of evolution to
fill out the millions of species we see to day. Same goes for all the
races of humanity we see today, all somehow related to Noah and his
family. But how did these species evolve so quickly (over 4000
years)? Don't you fogheads claim there is no evidence for "macro
evolution"?
How did all the diseases we know of today survive the flood without
infecting Noah's family? There is no mention in the bible about how
deathly ill they all were. How diid freshwater fish survive the
sudden induction of salinity into their environment? How did
saltwater fish survive a sudden *reduction* of salinity in their
environment? How did Noah and his family survive a rain storm that
produced so much water in such a short time that it would have had to
be ballistic? How did landed vegetation survive for a year under
saltwater? Was there room in the already sardine-packed ark for all
species of vegetation, or just the kinds? (Once again, explain how
evolution was either not a part of the return of vegetation, or how it
could happen so quickly shen science knows for a fact it does not.)
Where did the water go? We're talking about a volume equal to 3-4
times what we see today, and the bible says it receded within months.
Back into space through the windows of the firmament?
Lemme guess. It was all a magical miracle.
Not too bright, huh?
--
Uncle Vic
2011
adman
"raven1" <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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You obviously cannot read Raven. This flood had a wall of water 600 ft. tall
and produced 25 in. of rain around the entire planet. Hurricane Katrina
dropped a fraction of that rainfall and parts of New Orleans were completely
obliterated with a 20 ft. wall of water.
Damn you people are dumb. You utterly refused to accept any information that
is contrary to your narrow belief system.
Surely the in habitants of the earth at that time would have thought the
entire planet was being flooded. And THAT is the reason WHY we have so many
flood stories
it is really THAT simple.
Noah's flood happened.
Conspiracy of Doves
> "raven1" <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote in message
Pot, meet Kettle.
> Surely the in habitants of the earth at that time would have thought the
> entire planet was being flooded. And THAT is the reason WHY we have so many
> flood stories
The point is, how did those civilizations survive the time when the
flood supposedly happened? They should have been completely wiped out.
> it is really THAT simple.
>
> Noah's flood happened.
Not only did Noah's flood never happen, but it is impossible for it to
have ever happened and for us to have the world that we have today.
George
> And this is the best the evolutionists can do,
> when presented with the facts! And yet,
> they think that somehow, "sarcasm = proof".
So where are the links to Google Earth that prove this claim.
You are rather free with the word fact.
Present evidence!
And that is why you and your claims are a laughing stock
Uncle Vic
> "Pink Freud" <somewh...@here.com> wrote in message
>
>
> Actually, Pastor Dave was doing a great job making you kooks chase your
> tales
Interesting Freudian slip there. But they're your tales. We prefer
reality.
> so I decided to let him have some fun. It's amusing how easily you are
> baited.
>
Actually, what's amusing is how easily the biblical flood story is
exposed as a lie. And it's even more amusing watching fundy whackjobs
like you defend it with even more lies.
--
Uncle Vic
2011
Ken
> On Thu, 15 May 2008 11:40:32 -0700 (PDT), Vache
Ever heard of FOSSILS, Asswipe?
adman
"Hatter" <Hatt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Hatter
In are incorrect on all levels but i will discuss one. The boat Noah made
has been built and tested. Guess what. It survived just fine and the modern
day oil super-tankers are built to the exact same caculations and specs.
Now that we are four-thousand years more advanced technologically, let's
compare the Ark's dimensions to the kinds of ships most similar to it today.
The U.S.S. Nimitz was designed to retrieve, carry, and launch aircraft. It
is considered to be one of the most stable and stout ships ever built. The
aircraft carrier has an overall length of 1,092 feet and features a beam of
134 feet below a flight deck which is 252 feet wide. The ratio of her length
to her average width is therefore 0.17. The Ark's ratio of length to width
is also 0.17, making it look like Yahweh aced His classes at the Naval
Academy. In World War Two, the battleship Bismark was the panicle of German
engineering. It had a ratio of length to width of 0.16. The world's largest
ship, weighing in at 261,000 tons, is the supertanker Knock Nevis. It was
commissioned as the Seawise Giant but ran aground in the shallows of the
Straits of Hormuz following an Iraqi Exocet missile strike in 1986. When she
was re-floated, the ship was renamed to distance her from that stigma.
History aside, this pride of Japanese shipbuilding is 1,504 feet long and
has a 226 foot beam, providing a ratio of 0.15 to one."
God didn't study at Annapolis, and neither did my uncle, but he noticed the
dimensions one day in his Bible. My uncle, Charles Mertes, worked on the
Nimitz design team, at the San Diego Naval facility. They took models to a
soundstage at Universal Studios, in Hollywood, where model ships are filmed
on a scale 'ocean' which is used to create whatever weather conditions the
film might require, for testing purposes. He suggested that they use the
same ratio dimensions of Noah's ark, and when they did, they found that,
even without an engine, the craft with God's specified length:width ratio
would turn itself into the wind and even right itself if flipped. The
dimension ratio of the Nimitz was decided. The design worked so well that it
has been adopted by many modern shipbuilders, which is why many oil tankers,
freighters, etc. seem to have the same overall appearance. I believe there
are many things God has given us in The Bible which we have yet to figure
out are there. If we would just look, we just might be surprised. :think:
Edited to add this link:
Source: http://yadayahweh.com/Yada_Yahweh_Genesis_Noah.YHWH
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-45450.html
Cary Kittrell
> > What really makes this astounding is that other geological researchers,
> > using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant tsunami in
> > the
> > Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits of
> > sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of satellite
> > sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater") that
> > created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high" and deposited "25 feet of
> > rain
> > globally".
> >
> > http://wavespace.info/archives/3-Flood-Evidence-Found-Using-Google-Earth.html
> >
> > Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around the
> > world?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Wow. That's incredible.
>
> Can you see Noah on Google Earth too?
>
Sure can.
Actually...well, actually he's naked. Looks kind of wasted
too, if you know what I mean.
-- cary
Ralph
No, you're not too bright. Only religious fools believe that a global flood
occurred.
Hatter
> "Hatter" <Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote in message
One the size suffient to hold every species of animal and plant, and
the food needed for a year, and the aquarium tanks to maintain the
right salinity level, the fuel to keep the tropical ones warm, and the
ice to keep the artic ones alive.
Really, where? And no models don't actually count because of the fiber
stress of wooden boats doesn't scale well.
But here I am just spout science and facts to you, please continue
with your faire tales and lies.
Hatter
Devil's Advocaat
> What really makes this astounding is that other geological researchers,
> using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant tsunami in the
> Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits of
> sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of satellite
> sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater") that
> seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so. The crater would have
> created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high" and deposited "25 feet of rain
> globally".
>
>
> Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around the world?
There is no doubt that this particular impact event caused
considerable flooding around that region, but it would not have caused
a global flood, nor would it have left just eight people alive out of
the whole world. Sorry to tell you this but one impact event causing a
widespread catastrophic flood does not prove the veracity of the
Biblical account.
Hatter
> "Pink Freud" <somewh...@here.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "adman" <72...@hottmail.et> wrote in message
> >news:QN_Wj.34337$7a.2...@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> > > What really makes this astounding is that other geological researchers,
> > > using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant tsunami in
> > > the
> > > Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits of
> > > sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of satellite
> > > sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater") that
> > > seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so. The crater would have
> > > created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high" and deposited "25 feet of
> > > rain
> > > globally".
>
>
> > > Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around the
> > > world?
>
> > Wow. That's incredible.
>
> > Can you see Noah on Google Earth too?
>
> Sure can.
>
> Actually...well, actually he's naked. Looks kind of wasted
> too, if you know what I mean.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Cary, get out of Dad's tent!
Hatter
Ralph
A bit embellished??? I'll say.
adman
Hatter
yet you cut out my evidence---- links and all and refuse to address them
iow... you are wrong and you know it
Cary Kittrell
>
> On Thu, 15 May 2008 12:56:02 -0500, "adman"
> <72...@hottmail.et> spake thusly:
>
>
> >What really makes this astounding is that other
> >geological researchers, using Google Earth,
> >found characteristic features of a giant tsunami
> >in the Indian Ocean. The features are called
> >chevrons, enormous deposits of sediment
> >pointing radially back to a common center.
> >Analysis of satellite sea-surface data led to
> >the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater")
> >that seems to be about the right age,
> >5000 years or so. The crater would have
> >created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high"
> >and deposited "25 feet of rain globally".
> >
> >http://wavespace.info/archives/3-Flood-Evidence-Found-Using-Google-Earth.html
> >
> >Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories
> >from around the world?
>
> take 48 billion different floods that span the Earth
> and claim that there is no evidence for a world wide
> flood, but rather, that there is only evidence of
> individual, local floods. Yea right! If that many
> floods happened, that should tell them something
> and rest assured, for most it does and so, this is
> nothing more than, "willing ignorance". :)
Fifteen Sparkly Points to the first poster who
can parse the above logic for me.
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
>
> >> using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant tsunami in
> >> the
> >> Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits of
> >> sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of satellite
> >> sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater") that
> >> seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so. The crater would have
> >> created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high" and deposited "25 feet of
> >> rain
> >> globally".
> >>
> >> http://wavespace.info/archives/3-Flood-Evidence-Found-Using-Google-Earth.html
> >>
> >> Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around the
> >> world?
> >
> >
> >Can you see Noah on Google Earth too?
>
> when presented with the facts! And yet,
> they think that somehow, "sarcasm = proof".
Damn right! I mean, who would have imagined
that there tsunamis in the past, just like
there are today?
Man oh man oh man, what a concept...
Hark!! Is that Stockholm calling?
-- cary
Ralph
Chase our 'tales'?? Damn, you're one stupid shit!
adman
"Conspiracy of Doves" <mark...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b5f27bb9-3e46-47d1...@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
| On May 15, 3:57 pm, "adman" <72...@hottmail.et> wrote:
| > "raven1" <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote in message
| >
| > news:2o2p24593pjc6esq5...@4ax.com...
| > | On Thu, 15 May 2008 15:02:02 -0400, Pastor Dave|
<ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
| >
|
| > You obviously cannot read Raven. This flood had a wall of water 600 ft.
tall
| > and produced 25 in. of rain around the entire planet. Hurricane Katrina
| > dropped a fraction of that rainfall and parts of New Orleans were
completely
| > obliterated with a 20 ft. wall of water.
| >
| > Damn you people are dumb. You utterly refused to accept any information
that
| > is contrary to your narrow belief system.
|
| Pot, meet Kettle.
|
| > Surely the in habitants of the earth at that time would have thought the
| > entire planet was being flooded. And THAT is the reason WHY we have so
many
| > flood stories
|
| The point is, how did those civilizations survive the time when the
| flood supposedly happened? They should have been completely wiped out.
Obviously *SOME* survived in the higher elevations
|
| > it is really THAT simple.
| >
| > Noah's flood happened.
|
| Not only did Noah's flood never happen, but it is impossible for it to
| have ever happened and for us to have the world that we have today.
The world was vey different pre-flood, so in a sense, we do not have the
same world as we have today
adman
"Devil's Advocaat" <mank...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:54e32aac-aef6-4d45...@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
What part of 25 FEET of rain globally and a 600 foot wall of water was so
hard for you to grasp?
Do you have any idea the destruction hurricane katrina did with a mere 20
inches (not feet) of rain and a 20 foot wall of water? You have no idea do
you?
The flood described in this article could very well have been the biblical
flood
Hatter
> Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 15 May 2008 12:56:02 -0500, "adman"
> > <72...@hottmail.et> spake thusly:
>
> > >What really makes this astounding is that other
> > >geological researchers, using Google Earth,
> > >found characteristic features of a giant tsunami
> > >in the Indian Ocean. The features are called
> > >chevrons, enormous deposits of sediment
> > >pointing radially back to a common center.
> > >Analysis of satellite sea-surface data led to
> > >the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater")
> > >that seems to be about the right age,
> > >5000 years or so. The crater would have
> > >created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high"
> > >and deposited "25 feet of rain globally".
>
>
> > >Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories
> > >from around the world?
>
> > About 300 of them. But evolutionists would rather
> > take 48 billion different floods that span the Earth
> > and claim that there is no evidence for a world wide
> > flood, but rather, that there is only evidence of
> > individual, local floods. Yea right! If that many
> > floods happened, that should tell them something
> > and rest assured, for most it does and so, this is
> > nothing more than, "willing ignorance". :)
>
> Fifteen Sparkly Points to the first poster who
> can parse the above logic for me.
>
fairy tale"
but it is say numberous observed micro floods are evedience for one
great macro flood.
Which is a little different than their usual song.
Hatter
Cary Kittrell
> What really makes this astounding is that other geological researchers,
> using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant tsunami in the
> Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits of
> sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of satellite
> sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater") that
> seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so. The crater would have
> created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high" and deposited "25 feet of rain
> globally".
>
>
> Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around the world?
Hundreds of different mythologies with hundreds of different
flood myths?
What would make you think that your particular myth
was the "right" one?
I mean, the other myths do not talk about "Noah", you
know. They talk about figures from their own particular
cultures.
-- cary
adman
"Cary Kittrell" <ca...@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:g0i641$2d0$1...@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
You have evidence on one with a 600 FOOT wall of water that dumped 25 FEET
of rain?
No you don't do you?
The flood happened. Get over it.
adman
Hatter
IOW you kooks CANNOT prove this article wrong, so you will make jokes, or
call names
GOTCHA!!
[chuckle]
Cary Kittrell
> On May 15, 4:18=A0pm, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
> > "Pink Freud" <somewh...@here.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > "adman" <72...@hottmail.et> wrote in message
> > >news:QN_Wj.34337$7a.2...@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> ,
> > > > using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant tsunami i=
> n
> > > > the
> > > > Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits of
> ite
> > > > sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater") t=
> hat
> > > > seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so. The crater would ha=
> ve
> > > > created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high" and deposited "25 feet of=
>
> > > > rain
> > > > globally".
> >
> > > >http://wavespace.info/archives/3-Flood-Evidence-Found-Using-Google-Ea..=
> .
> >
> > > > Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around the
> > > > world?
> >
> > > Wow. That's incredible.
> >
> > > Can you see Noah on Google Earth too?
> >
> > Sure can.
> >
> > too, if you know what I mean.
> >
> > -- cary- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Cary, get out of Dad's tent!
>
> Hatter
Too late, dude, too late!
For I have accidentaly stumbled upon my drunken old man
naked as the day he was born. Obviously this is ALL
my fault, and I deserve to be a slave to my brothers'
wills for the rest of my life.
I mean, God is Nothing if He is not good.
(and you may make of that what you will...)
-- cary
adman
| In article <QN_Wj.34337$7a.2...@bignews1.bellsouth.net> "adman"
<72...@hottmail.et> writes:
| > What really makes this astounding is that other geological researchers,
| > using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant tsunami in
the
| > Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits of
| > sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of
satellite
| > sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater")
that
| > seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so. The crater would have
| > created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high" and deposited "25 feet of
rain
| > globally".
| >
| >
http://wavespace.info/archives/3-Flood-Evidence-Found-Using-Google-Earth.html
| >
| > Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around the
world?
|
|
| Hundreds of different mythologies with hundreds of different
| flood myths?
no
|
| What would make you think that your particular myth
| was the "right" one?
|
| I mean, the other myths do not talk about "Noah", you
| know. They talk about figures from their own particular
| cultures.
|
|
Oh really now? Lets see...
Islamic:Allah sent Noah to warn the people to serve none but Allah, but most
of them would not listen.
Russian: To find out why Noah was building an ark, the devil told Noah's
wife to prepare a strong drink. Noah, drunk from this drink, told the secret
God entrusted him with. The devil hindered Noah's work, and when the ship
was finished, sneaked into it in the company of the wife, who had tempted
her husband into saying the devil's name. Once in the ark, he assumed the
form of a mouse and gnawed holes in the bottom of the ark.
Herschel Island Eskimo: Noah invited all animals to save themselves aboard
his ark, but the mammoths thought there would not be much of a flood and
that their legs were long enough to deal with it, so they stayed outside and
became extinct. The other animals believed Noah and were saved.
All flood stories have a similar theme.And many mention noah, or a
character like noah.
Kramer, Samuel Noah (ed.). Mythologies of the Ancient World, Anchor Books,
Garden City, NY. 1961.
LaHaye, Tim & Morris, John. The Ark on Ararat, Thomas Nelson Inc. and
Creation-Life Publishers, Nashville/New York. 1976.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html
You kooks make your nonsense up as you go along? seems so.
Cary Kittrell
Oh, I think there's a significant chance that it happened.
And the highest estimated runup was 200 m. [1]
Do you know how much of the Earth's land is more than
200 m above sea level?
(hint: the correct answer is "almost all of it")
Sound like a flood that drowned the entire Earth
to you?
-- cary
[1] http://www.knowledge.co.uk/sis/abstract/masse.htm. you really
ought to do some reading, you know...
Pastor Dave
<some...@here.com> spake thusly:
>"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:ht1p24pm8ra9bi253...@4ax.com...
>
>> On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:52:43 GMT, "Pink Freud"
>> <some...@here.com> spake thusly:
>>
>>>"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:iv0p24pfjdmdg92d2...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:10:20 GMT, "Pink Freud"
>>>> <some...@here.com> spake thusly:
>>>>
>>>>>"adman" <72...@hottmail.et> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>> What really makes this astounding is that other geological
>>>>>> researchers,
>>>>>> using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant tsunami
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits of
>>>>>> sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of
>>>>>> satellite
>>>>>> sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater")
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so. The crater would
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high" and deposited "25 feet of
>>>>>> rain
>>>>>> globally".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://wavespace.info/archives/3-Flood-Evidence-Found-Using-Google-Earth.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around the
>>>>>> world?
>>>>>
>>>>>Wow. That's incredible.
>>>>>
>>>>>Can you see Noah on Google Earth too?
>>>>
>>>> And this is the best the evolutionists can do,
>>>> when presented with the facts! And yet,
>>>> they think that somehow, "sarcasm = proof".
>>>>
>>>> And what does that prove? That the following
>>>> is the proper question: Not too bright, huh?!
>>>>
>>>
>>>Pffttt. Brighter than thinking that evidence of a tsunami somehow makes a
>>>ludicrous biblical account true.
>>
>> Thanks for proving my point!
>>
>>
>>>I have more respect for Christians who admit the Noah's ark story is some
>>>sort of fable than those who flail around desperately for evidence to
>>>support it.
>>
>> In other words, you only have respect for "Christians"
>> who reject the Bible.
>
>Yup.. that's about the sum of it. Given that in places it contradicts
>*itself*.
Then that tells us that you're willing to admit
that you're a liar, since you really only respect
those who aren't Christians in the first place
and yet, pretend that you do.
>> Yea, you're really bright, huh?!
>
>One does one's best.
Then if I were you, I would give up, since your
"best" is by your own admission, you lying.
>>>Can you not see how ridiculous this story is?
>>
>> Can you not see how ridiculous you are for ignoring
>> the fact that there are too many flood areas to count
>> and yet, you insist that they're all separate floods?
>
>Listen carefully. Evidence of floods != evidence of noah's ark.
Listen carefully... Evidence of floods all over the world,
being dismissed by idiots, because they don't *_WANT_*
to believe what the evidence actually shows, does not
make it untrue!
>In the same way, thunder and lightning is not evidence of Thor.
You truly aren't bright! I never said a word about
who, nor what caused it! But you're too biased to
see that!
>> Let's see... In addition to the scientific evidence
>> showing a vast amount of floods, we also have
>> about 300 flood accounts, which you dismiss all of.
>
>Evidence of floods != evidence of noah's ark.
See above, stupid. There are about 300 accounts
of a world wide flood!
>> Of course, no archeologist, nor any textual criticist
>> (both valid sciences) would do this
>
>So, by your logic, all archaeologists are Christians.
By any logic, you are a total ass!
What I said was, that no honest archaeologist,
nor any honest textual critic would hand wave
away all of these accounts as fantasy, as you do!
And that makes you a fool!
And now, let me show you how stupid you are!
You were about to quote the following...
"But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry
with his brother without a cause shall be in
danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall
say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of
the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool,
shall be in danger of hell fire." - Matthew 5:22
Now why did I say you are stupid for quoting it?
Simple! Read it again and note the caps! ...
"But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry
with *_HIS BROTHER_* without a cause
shall be in danger of the judgment: and
whosoever shall say to *_HIS BROTHER_,
Raca, shall be in danger of the council:
but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be
in danger of hell fire." - Matthew 5:22
YOU are NOT "my brother! And therefore,
the Scripture that applies to YOU is as follows:
"The fool has said in his heart; There is no God."
- Psalm 14:1
And so now I say, "Bye bye, dull one!". You are
certainly not worth the time I would waste posting
to you anymore, since you have proved beyond a
doubt that you are:
1) Ignorant as to what the Bible says.
2) Ignorant as to geology.
3) Ignorant as to historical data.
4) Ignorant as to even what the various sciences
are regarding this issue.
And yet, you parade yourself around, pretending
that you know something! Bawahahaha!!! <chuckle>
A logical, intelligent discussion cannot happen with you!
That is a fact! And so, I say goodbye to you right now!
--
"Don't give up. Moses was once a basket case."
Pastor Dave
<72...@hottmail.et> spake thusly:
>| >Can you see Noah on Google Earth too?
>|
>| And this is the best the evolutionists can do,
>| when presented with the facts! And yet,
>| they think that somehow, "sarcasm = proof".
>|
>| And what does that prove? That the following
>| is the proper question: Not too bright, huh?!
>
>Not too bright at all. You seem to have this topic under control.
Always! :)
But please, do yourself a favor and remember that
discussion we had before and note that I am not
debating them and simply sweep out the trash
without that. It is easy, since they're liars and know
nothing about nothing and one simple comment
demonstrates this! Get it? :)
--
It's hard to stumble when you're down on your knees.
Robert Weldon
>
> "raven1" <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote in message
> news:2o2p24593pjc6esq5...@4ax.com...
> | On Thu, 15 May 2008 15:02:02 -0400, Pastor Dave
> | <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
> |
> | ><some...@here.com> spake thusly:
> | >
> | >
> | >>"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
> | >>news:iv0p24pfjdmdg92d2...@4ax.com...
> | >>
> | >>> On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:10:20 GMT, "Pink Freud"
> | >>> <some...@here.com> spake thusly:
> | >>>
> | >>>>"adman" <72...@hottmail.et> wrote in message
> | >>>>
> | >>>>> What really makes this astounding is that other geological
> researchers,
> | >>>>> using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant
> tsunami
> in
> | >>>>> the
> | >>>>> Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits
> of
> | >>>>> sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of
> | >>>>> satellite
> | >>>>> sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle
> Crater")
> | >>>>> that
> | >>>>> seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so.
> |
> | considerably later, according to the chronology. 5,000 years ago is
> | only a century or so after the death of Adam, and well before Noah.
> |
> | >>>>> The crater would have
> | >>>>> created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high"
> |
> | 600 feet high for long.
> |
> | >>>>> and deposited "25 feet of
> | >>>>> rain
> | >>>>> globally".
> |
> | enough to cover my neighborhood in Brooklyn (Dyker Heights), much less
> | the highest mountains, as the Biblical account claims.
> |
> | >>>>>
> | >>>>>
> http://wavespace.info/archives/3-Flood-Evidence-Found-Using-Google-Earth.html
> | >>>>>
> | >>>>> Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around
> the
> | >>>>> world?
> | >>>>
> | >>>>Wow. That's incredible.
> | >>>>
> | >>>
> | >>> And this is the best the evolutionists can do,
> | >>> when presented with the facts! And yet,
> | >>> they think that somehow, "sarcasm = proof".
> | >>>
> | >>> And what does that prove? That the following
> | >>> is the proper question: Not too bright, huh?!
> | >>>
> | >>
> makes
> a
> | >>ludicrous biblical account true.
> | >
> | >Thanks for proving my point!
> | >
> | >
> | >>I have more respect for Christians who admit the Noah's ark story is
> some
> | >>sort of fable than those who flail around desperately for evidence to
> | >>support it.
> | >
> | >In other words, you only have respect for "Christians"
> |
> | Your notion that everything in the Bible is to be taken literally is a
> | minority view even among Christians.
> |
> | >>Can you not see how ridiculous this story is?
> | >
> | >Can you not see how ridiculous you are for ignoring
> | >the fact that there are too many flood areas to count
> | >and yet, you insist that they're all separate floods?
> |
> | for floods are also able to determine when they occurred to a great
> | degree of accuracy.
> |
> | >Let's see... In addition to the scientific evidence
> | >showing a vast amount of floods,
> |
> |
> | > we also have
> | >about 300 flood accounts, which you dismiss all of.
> |
> | or more would be memorable enough that it passed down into the local
> | folklore?
> |
> | We also have continuous records from civilizations (Egypt, China) who
> | somehow managed to miss noticing any global flood occurring at the
> | time.
>
> You obviously cannot read Raven. This flood had a wall of water 600 ft.
> tall
> and produced 25 in. of rain around the entire planet. Hurricane Katrina
> dropped a fraction of that rainfall and parts of New Orleans were
> completely
> obliterated with a 20 ft. wall of water.
>
> Damn you people are dumb. You utterly refused to accept any information
> that
> is contrary to your narrow belief system.
>
> entire planet was being flooded. And THAT is the reason WHY we have so
> many
> flood stories
>
>
> Noah's flood happened.
>
some geology, why don't you, look at a map and see how high New Orleans is
above sea level, compare that to the elevations of the rest of the planet.
Also learn about dikes, dams and levees. While you are at it, learn about
tidal wave propagation, and find out how far inland a 600 foot wall of water
would have progressed before it ran out of steam.
Also, I notice you completely ignored the part about the Egyptian and
Chinese civilizations not noticing the world being flooded in there records,
which span the time of the alleged flood, and also ignore the biblical
chronology, which also doesn't fit the time period of this tsunami event.
Talk about refusing to accept any information that is contrary to your
belief system.
However, this is not a surprise, as you have already proven that you are
impervious to logic and fact.
Pink Freud
"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b19p24d8qncald9f9...@4ax.com...
I'm devastated.
Really.
Pastor Dave
<72...@hottmail.et> spake thusly:
>"Hatter" <Hatt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
>On May 15, 3:04 pm, Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 May 2008 11:40:32 -0700 (PDT), Vache
>> <seth.chrom...@gmail.com> spake thusly:
>>
>> >> Hmmm, the article makes the claim that these chevrons were found using
>> >> Google Earth, but why no images from Google Earth or even a link back
>> >> to the page of Google Earth on which they are supposed to have been
>> >> found?
>>
>> >Pics or it didn't happen...
>>
>> Okay, so then, by your own claim of what
>> constitutes proof, show us pics of evolution
>> in the millions of stages required for
>> macroevolution, or it didn't happen.
>>
>> Oh wait, I'm sorry! I forgot! Evolutionists
>> don't have to provide proof! Just insults
>> and demands that the other person prove
>> it's not true!
>>
>> Hmmm... So why don't you do that here???
>>
>> Oh yea, that's right! That rule only gets applied
>> for evolutionists! I forgot again, damn it!
>>
>Millions of tons of fossil strata disagree with you...also that all
>these fossils don't suddenly end at one point about 3000bc also
>doesn't agree with you, the fact that if Noahs ark did exist the
>logistics of it would require a craft anyone at that level of
>technology would be unable to built disagrees with you.
Yea, just like the pyramids couldn't have been built,
right? :) Of course, we now look at the cut of the
stones and realize that gee, no, we can't do that
even today. But don't worry, I'm sure it's just like
you say it is and none of that matters, especially
any of those pesky old facts! :)
So you just keep parroting evolutionists, as if doing
that somehow makes them all wrong. Whatever
works for you and suits your personal beliefs, must
be right, or why would you think it, right? <chuckle>
--
"The difference between stupidity and genius is that
genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
Pink Freud
"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ds9p24tio7uhpgp4j...@4ax.com...
Bwahahahaha!!
Cite?
Pastor Dave
>>One the size suffient to hold every species of animal and plant, and
>>the food needed for a year, and the aquarium tanks to maintain the
>>right salinity level, the fuel to keep the tropical ones warm, and the
>>ice to keep the artic ones alive.
>
>Really, where? And no models don't actually count because of the fiber
>stress of wooden boats doesn't scale well.
Is that why you claim that evolution is true,
even though the fossils to prove it don't exist,
but you would claim that "the model is sound"?!
The truth is, that you look around you NOW
and assume it was all the same, which proves
that you don't understand what the "model"
of the flood states and yet, claim to be able
to judge it???
The reality is, that there would have been no
"arctic" to worry about and you just negated
your own belief in evolution, since you would
normally claim that "evolution did it" and yet,
here, you decide not to allow for evolution to
have done anything at all!
The truth is, that you don't even know that
there are six kinds of evolution and furthermore,
you don't even know that there is a difference
between microevolution and macroevolution
and that microevolution (the only proved form
of evolution) would have resolved your issue!
Now quick... What's the difference between
the two?! And what are the six types of
evolution?!
Bzzzzzzzttt!!! Sorry, too late! :)
--
The Last Days were in the first century:
Matthew 16:27-28
27) For the Son of man shall come in the glory
of his Father with his angels; and then he shall
reward every man according to his works.
28) Verily I say unto you, There be some standing
here, which shall not taste of death, till they
see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
Jesus said He would return within the lifetime
of the Apostles. We know this, because Jesus
said SOME (at least one, not not most) would
be alive when this happened.
This is not the Transfiguration. There was no
coming with the Father's angels and no judging
every man according to His works and they were
all still alive.
This is not Pentecost. There was no coming
with the Father's angels and no judging
every man according to His works and they
were all but one, still alive.
Now see a verse that no one argues is about
His Second Coming and see that this is what
Jesus was referring to, in Matthew 16:27-28.
"And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward
is with me, to give every man according as
his work shall be." - Revelation 22:12
Pastor Dave
<72...@hottmail.et> spake thusly:
>| Hey adman, you cowardly fuck!
>|
>| Are you going to respond to this troll-storm
>| you caused by cross posting your off-topic
>| shit all over usenet? Or just sit back and
>| watch the fireworks?
>
>Actually, Pastor Dave was doing a great job
>making you kooks chase your tales so I decided
>to let him have some fun. It's amusing how
>easily you are baited.
Awww, you are just so wrong, Adman!!!
I didn't "bait them". They come running looking
for dinner! Too bad they're still hungry, huh? :)
Dude man... Don't you know that calling you
an ignorant f*ck is a totally scientific response
to your crazy theory that we should look at
the data and that when the data doesn't say
what you want, you should insult the other
person and pretend it's a scientific response?!
And don't you know that when you stay and debate,
that it means that you're a coward, like the man said?
C'mon man! What is wrong with you Creationists
anyway?! Can't you even see the blazingly accurate
scientific argument he made above, totally and
completely demolishes any attempt you might make
now, or the future, regarding Creationism being true?!
Gee and I was counting on you to be logical! :)
--
The Last Days were in the first century:
Hebrews 1:1-2
1) God who at sundry times and in divers manners
spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2) Hath *IN THESE LAST DAYS* spoken unto us by
His Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things,
by whom also he made the worlds;
Richard Anacker
Pastor Dave schrieb:
> Yea, just like the pyramids couldn't have been built,
> right? :)
And because pyramids exist there was a global flood. Yes, moron, you have
this discussion under control. *snigger*
> Of course, we now look at the cut of the
> stones and realize that gee, no, we can't do that
> even today.
Of course, *YOU* can't do that even today. Because *YOU* dimwitted
faithfulls would break the hammer when you try to hit a nail in warm
butter.
But to keep you informed about what's going on today - and not 2000 years
ago, where your scientific education stopped - today normal Egyptian
craftsmen can do it even with ancient-type tools. As they did it some
thousand years ago, when some goatfuckers started to write down their myths
- which you take as "the word of gawd" (ROTFLMFAO) today.
But of course - you are not bright enough to grasp that.
--
Good, Fast, Cheap: Pick any two
Richard Anacker
L. Raymond schrieb:
>> Dude man... Don't you know that calling you
>> an ignorant f*ck is a totally scientific response
>
> If you're going to be coarse, have the courage to do it properly, or
> don't do it at all.
ohoh, but then he will burn in hell, nogood, nogood. Are pastors allowed to
say or write FUCK? But - why not, they are allowed to be fucking liars, so
why shouldn't this crackpot write *FUCK*? Maybe he couldn't remember if it
was *FUCK* or *FICK* or *FACK*
towelie
>> researchers, using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a
>> giant tsunami in the Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons,
>> enormous deposits of sediment pointing radially back to a common
>> center. Analysis of satellite sea-surface data led to the discovery
>> of a crater ("Burckle Crater") that seems to be about the right age,
>> 5000 years or so. The crater would have created a tsunami with
>> "waves 600 feet high" and deposited "25 feet of rain globally".
>>
>>
>> Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around
>> the world?
>
> Google Earth, but why no images from Google Earth or even a link back
> to the page of Google Earth on which they are supposed to have been
> found?
I wondered the same thing. I looked at Madagascar on Google Maps (same data
as GE) and I couldn't find what they were talking about.
Anyway, the presence of marine fossils in rock strata doesn't mean anything.
The Ouachita Mountains of western Arkansas and eastern Oklahoma are
literally full of marine fossils, as well as plants that are obviously
swamp/lowland species of plants (The Ouachita range has peaks up to just shy
of 2700 feet above sea level, and is several hundred miles from any ocean).
I have a couple of fossils of plant stems that I found near Heavener, OK.
The reason the marine fossils are found here is simple: this land was once
under the sea, and was folded up when South America crashed into North
America. If you're a geology or geography buff, you should check out these
fascinating mountains.
raven1
>
>"raven1" <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote in message
>news:2o2p24593pjc6esq5...@4ax.com...
>| On Thu, 15 May 2008 15:02:02 -0400, Pastor Dave
>| <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
>|
>| >On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:52:43 GMT, "Pink Freud"
>| ><some...@here.com> spake thusly:
>| >
>| >
>| >>"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
>| >>news:iv0p24pfjdmdg92d2...@4ax.com...
>| >>
>| >>> On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:10:20 GMT, "Pink Freud"
>| >>> <some...@here.com> spake thusly:
>| >>>
>| >>>>"adman" <72...@hottmail.et> wrote in message
>| >>>>
>| >>>>> What really makes this astounding is that other geological
>researchers,
>| >>>>> using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant tsunami
>in
>| >>>>> the
>| >>>>> Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits of
>| >>>>> sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of
>| >>>>> satellite
>| >>>>> sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater")
>| >>>>> that
>| >>>>> seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so.
>|
>| Then it can't have caused the Biblical flood, which had to occur
>| considerably later, according to the chronology. 5,000 years ago is
>| only a century or so after the death of Adam, and well before Noah.
>|
>| >>>>> The crater would have
>| >>>>> created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high"
>|
>| What happens to tsunamis when they reach land? Hint: they don't stay
>| 600 feet high for long.
>|
>| >>>>> and deposited "25 feet of
>| >>>>> rain
>| >>>>> globally".
>|
>| 25 feet of rain, whether global or not, wouldn't even reach high
>| enough to cover my neighborhood in Brooklyn (Dyker Heights), much less
>| the highest mountains, as the Biblical account claims.
>|
>| >>>>>
>| >>>>>
>http://wavespace.info/archives/3-Flood-Evidence-Found-Using-Google-Earth.html
>| >>>>>
>| >>>>> Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around
>the
>| >>>>> world?
>| >>>>
>| >>>>Wow. That's incredible.
>| >>>>
>| >>>>Can you see Noah on Google Earth too?
>| >>>
>| >>> And this is the best the evolutionists can do,
>| >>> when presented with the facts! And yet,
>| >>> they think that somehow, "sarcasm = proof".
>| >>>
>| >>> And what does that prove? That the following
>| >>> is the proper question: Not too bright, huh?!
>| >>>
>| >>
>| >>Pffttt. Brighter than thinking that evidence of a tsunami somehow makes
>a
>| >>ludicrous biblical account true.
>| >
>| >Thanks for proving my point!
>| >
>| >
>| >>I have more respect for Christians who admit the Noah's ark story is
>some
>| >>sort of fable than those who flail around desperately for evidence to
>| >>support it.
>| >
>| >In other words, you only have respect for "Christians"
>| >who reject the Bible. Yea, you're really bright, huh?!
>|
>| Your notion that everything in the Bible is to be taken literally is a
>| minority view even among Christians.
>|
>| >>Can you not see how ridiculous this story is?
>| >
>| >Can you not see how ridiculous you are for ignoring
>| >the fact that there are too many flood areas to count
>| >and yet, you insist that they're all separate floods?
>|
>| Oddly enough, the same scientists who are able to uncover the evidence
>| for floods are also able to determine when they occurred to a great
>| degree of accuracy.
>|
>| >Let's see... In addition to the scientific evidence
>| >showing a vast amount of floods,
>|
>| Occurring at widely different times.
>|
>| > we also have
>| >about 300 flood accounts, which you dismiss all of.
>|
>| Floods occur all over the world. Why would it be a surprise that one
>| or more would be memorable enough that it passed down into the local
>| folklore?
>|
>| We also have continuous records from civilizations (Egypt, China) who
>| somehow managed to miss noticing any global flood occurring at the
>| time.
>
>You obviously cannot read Raven.
No, *you* obviously can't:
- The date of the impact you claim caused a global flood does not
correspond to the Biblical chronology.
- Tsunamis collapse on reaching land. Even a 600-foot high wall of
water would not flood anything much beyond coastal areas.
- 25 feet of rain over 40 days wouldn't even flood my neighborhood,
which is much higher over sea level, much less cover the highest
mountains.
- We have continuous records from civilizations existing throughout
any time period postulated for the flood. They weren't wiped out, nor
did they observe any global flood.
> This flood had a wall of water 600 ft. tall
>and produced 25 in. of rain around the entire planet. Hurricane Katrina
>dropped a fraction of that rainfall and parts of New Orleans were completely
>obliterated with a 20 ft. wall of water.
Look up "storm surge".
>
>Damn you people are dumb. You utterly refused to accept any information that
>is contrary to your narrow belief system.
>
>Surely the in habitants of the earth at that time would have thought the
>entire planet was being flooded. And THAT is the reason WHY we have so many
>flood stories
Which falsifies the Biblical account that only Noah and his family
were spared. Nice "own goal".
>
>it is really THAT simple.
>
>Noah's flood happened.
You just showed that it didn't. Bandages for your foot will be happily
provided on request.
Cory Albrecht
>> using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant tsunami in the
>> Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits of
>> sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of satellite
>> sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater") that
>> created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high" and deposited "25 feet of rain
>> globally".
>>
>> http://wavespace.info/archives/3-Flood-Evidence-Found-Using-Google-Ea...
>>
>> Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around the world?
>
> Google Earth, but why no images from Google Earth or even a link back
> to the page of Google Earth on which they are supposed to have been
> found?
I think this
<http://gsa.confex.com/gsa/2006AM/finalprogram/abstract_114274.htm> is
probably the source of that "chevrons found with Google Earth" story.
It's just an abstract about a paper given at Geological Society of
America conference in 2006, but you can see that they mention a number
of chevrons which pointed a number of different craters, but no mention
of Google Earth.
It would not suprise me if somebody with dishonest intentions add the
Google Earth bit to the story when they claimed proof for the Noachian
Flood as if to say "Look! You can see my proof with your own eyes, even
though I'm not actually giving you any coordinates or pictures or
anything approaching actual proof!"
Cory Albrecht
> What really makes this astounding is that other geological researchers,
> using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant tsunami in the
> Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits of
> sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of satellite
> sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater") that
> seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so. The crater would have
> created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high" and deposited "25 feet of rain
> globally".
>
>
> Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around the world?
If chevron dunes are proof of the Noachian Deluge, why don't we find
them all over the planet and all the same age and all pointing to the
same impact spot?
Or are you trying to say that all these flood myths, including Genesis,
are just tales of megatsunamis inflated over the generations into
world-destroying floods?
Mike Painter
> What really makes this astounding is that other geological
> researchers, using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a
> giant tsunami in the Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons,
> enormous deposits of sediment pointing radially back to a common
> center. Analysis of satellite sea-surface data led to the discovery
> of a crater ("Burckle Crater") that seems to be about the right age,
> 5000 years or so. The crater would have created a tsunami with "waves
> 600 feet high" and deposited "25 feet of rain globally".
>
> http://wavespace.info/archives/3-Flood-Evidence-Found-Using-Google-Earth.html
>
> Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around the
> world?
So we can ignore teh two stories in teh bible and use your data? It would be
interesting to see how a vessel made of wood and filled with animals on dry
land would react to being hit with a 600 foot high wall of water. I'd
suggest you watch some surf movies.
Llanzlan Klazmon
> "Cary Kittrell" <c...@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
>
> news:g0i641$2d0$1...@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
> | Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com>
> | >
> | > On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:10:20 GMT, "Pink Freud"
> | >
> | >
> | > >"adman" <72...@hottmail.et> wrote in message
> | > >
> | > >> What really makes this astounding is that other geological
> researchers,
> | > >> using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant tsunami
> in
> | > >> the
> | > >> Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits of
> | > >> sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of
> satellite
> | > >> sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater")
> that
> | > >> seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so. The crater would
> have
> | > >> created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high" and deposited "25 feet
> of
> | > >> rain
> | > >> globally".
> | > >>
> | > >>
> | > >> Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around the
> | > >> world?
> | > >
> | > >Wow. That's incredible.
> | > >
> | > >Can you see Noah on Google Earth too?
> | >
> | > And this is the best the evolutionists can do,
> | > when presented with the facts! And yet,
> | > they think that somehow, "sarcasm = proof".
> |
> | Damn right! I mean, who would have imagined
> | that there tsunamis in the past, just like
> | there are today?
> |
> | Man oh man oh man, what a concept...
> |
> | Hark!! Is that Stockholm calling?
> |
> | -- cary
>
> You have evidence on one with a 600 FOOT wall of water that dumped 25 FEET
> of rain?
>
> No you don't do you?
>
> The flood happened. Get over it.
Lots of floods happenned. Where is your evidence of seven miles of
rain. 25 feet comes up a bit short in case you didn 't notice.
Smiler
>
> "Conspiracy of Doves" <mark...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:b5f27bb9-3e46-47d1...@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> | On May 15, 3:57 pm, "adman" <72...@hottmail.et> wrote:
> | > "raven1" <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote in message
> | >
> | > news:2o2p24593pjc6esq5...@4ax.com...
> | > | On Thu, 15 May 2008 15:02:02 -0400, Pastor Dave|
> <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
> | >
> |
> tall
> | > and produced 25 in. of rain around the entire planet. Hurricane
> Katrina
> | > dropped a fraction of that rainfall and parts of New Orleans were
> completely
> | > obliterated with a 20 ft. wall of water.
> | >
> information
> that
> | > is contrary to your narrow belief system.
> |
> |
> | > Surely the in habitants of the earth at that time would have thought
> the
> | > entire planet was being flooded. And THAT is the reason WHY we have so
> many
> | > flood stories
> |
> | flood supposedly happened? They should have been completely wiped out.
>
> Obviously *SOME* survived in the higher elevations
So the bible lies when it says that EVERYONE, apart from Noah and his
family, were drowned.
And it lies again when it says the flood covered the WHOLE earth, to the
tops of the highest mountains and above.
Why should we believe *anything* that the bible said happened?
>
> |
> | > it is really THAT simple.
> | >
> | > Noah's flood happened.
> |
> | Not only did Noah's flood never happen, but it is impossible for it to
> | have ever happened and for us to have the world that we have today.
>
> The world was vey different pre-flood, so in a sense, we do not have the
> same world as we have today
>
And you know that, how?
What evidence, apart from your lying bible, do you have that this was so?
Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
towelie
I assume "Pink Freud" is an atheist. This quote is a good one. And
apologies for the top post.
Pink Freud wrote:
> "Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ht1p24pm8ra9bi253...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:52:43 GMT, "Pink Freud"
>> <some...@here.com> spake thusly:
>>
>>
>>> "Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:iv0p24pfjdmdg92d2...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:10:20 GMT, "Pink Freud"
>>>> <some...@here.com> spake thusly:
>>>>
>>>>> "adman" <72...@hottmail.et> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>> What really makes this astounding is that other geological
>>>>>> researchers,
>>>>>> using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant
>>>>>> tsunami in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous
>>>>>> deposits of sediment pointing radially back to a common center.
>>>>>> Analysis of satellite
>>>>>> sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle
>>>>>> Crater") that
>>>>>> seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so. The crater
>>>>>> would have
>>>>>> created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high" and deposited "25
>>>>>> feet of rain
>>>>>> globally".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://wavespace.info/archives/3-Flood-Evidence-Found-Using-Google-Earth.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from
>>>>>> around the world?
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow. That's incredible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you see Noah on Google Earth too?
>>>>
>>>> And this is the best the evolutionists can do,
>>>> when presented with the facts! And yet,
>>>> they think that somehow, "sarcasm = proof".
>>>>
>>>> And what does that prove? That the following
>>>> is the proper question: Not too bright, huh?!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Pffttt. Brighter than thinking that evidence of a tsunami somehow
>>> makes a ludicrous biblical account true.
>>
>> Thanks for proving my point!
>>
>>
>>> I have more respect for Christians who admit the Noah's ark story
>>> is some sort of fable than those who flail around desperately for
>>> evidence to support it.
>>
>> In other words, you only have respect for "Christians"
>> who reject the Bible.
>
> Yup.. that's about the sum of it. Given that in places it contradicts
> *itself*.
>
>> Yea, you're really bright, huh?!
>>
>
> One does one's best.
>
>>
>>> Can you not see how ridiculous this story is?
>>
>> Can you not see how ridiculous you are for ignoring
>> the fact that there are too many flood areas to count
>> and yet, you insist that they're all separate floods?
>>
*begin*
> Listen carefully. Evidence of floods != evidence of noah's ark.
>
> In the same way, thunder and lightning is not evidence of Thor.
*end*
Smiler
>
> "Devil's Advocaat" <mank...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:54e32aac-aef6-4d45...@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> researchers,
> | > using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant tsunami
> in
> the
> | > Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits of
> | > sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of
> satellite
> | > sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater")
> that
> | > seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so. The crater would
> have
> | > created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high" and deposited "25 feet of
> rain
> | > globally".
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around the
> world?
> |
> | considerable flooding around that region, but it would not have caused
> | a global flood, nor would it have left just eight people alive out of
> | the whole world. Sorry to tell you this but one impact event causing a
> | widespread catastrophic flood does not prove the veracity of the
> | Biblical account.
>
> What part of 25 FEET of rain globally and a 600 foot wall of water was so
> hard for you to grasp?
>
> Do you have any idea the destruction hurricane katrina did with a mere 20
> inches (not feet) of rain and a 20 foot wall of water? You have no idea do
> you?
>
> The flood described in this article could very well have been the biblical
> flood
>
Nowhere close.
The bible tells that the highest mountains were covered in water.
625 feet of water wouldn't even get to the foothills of Everest, let alone
cover its 29,029 feet = 47 * 625 feet.
Is that why the Sherpa (Himalayan mountain peoples) have no flood story in
your collection of 'over 300'?
Either it was some other event, for which there is no evidence, or your
bible is lying...which is it?
Smiler,
The godlesss one
a.a.# 2279
Smiler
"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:iv0p24pfjdmdg92d2...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:10:20 GMT, "Pink Freud"
> <some...@here.com> spake thusly:
>
>
>>> using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant tsunami in
>>> the
>>> Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits of
>>> sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of
>>> satellite
>>> sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater")
>>> that
>>> seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so. The crater would have
>>> created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high" and deposited "25 feet of
>>> rain
>>> globally".
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around the
>>> world?
>>
>>
>>Can you see Noah on Google Earth too?
>
> And this is the best the evolutionists can do,
> when presented with the facts! And yet,
> they think that somehow, "sarcasm = proof".
>
Ok, you want a proper refutation, here goes.
Your bible states that, in the supposed worldwide flood, every mountain was
covered by water.
Please explain how a 600 ft tidal wave and 25 ft of rain (=625ft) could
cover Mount Everest (at 29,029 ft it's 47 times higher than 625ft).
Your bible claims that everyone, apart from the supposed Noah and his
family, was drowned by this flood.
Please explain who survived to write these 'over 300' stories.
If you claim that 'every mountain' wasn't covered, then your bible lies.
If you claim that not 'everyone' was drowned and some lived to tell the
tale, then your bible lies.
If your bible lies, why should we believe a single word of it?
I await your explanation, but I won't be holding my breath.
DanielSan
> On Thu, 15 May 2008 11:40:32 -0700 (PDT), Vache
>
>
>>> Hmmm, the article makes the claim that these chevrons were found using
>>> Google Earth, but why no images from Google Earth or even a link back
>>> to the page of Google Earth on which they are supposed to have been
>>> found?
>
> Okay, so then, by your own claim of what
> constitutes proof, show us pics of evolution
> in the millions of stages required for
> macroevolution, or it didn't happen.
From:
http://www.creationism.org/dragons/HyracotheriumVasacciensisLikeHorse.jpg
To:
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/stevesteve/harvard/SS_Equus.jpg
From:
http://www.hlasek.com/foto/culex_pipiens_dd2787.jpg
To:
http://www.arbovirus.health.nsw.gov.au/mosquit/mosqphotos/culex_globocoxitus.jpg
"Macroevolution" does not require "millions of stages".
>
> Oh wait, I'm sorry! I forgot! Evolutionists
> don't have to provide proof! Just insults
> and demands that the other person prove
> it's not true!
>
> Hmmm... So why don't you do that here???
>
> Oh yea, that's right! That rule only gets applied
> for evolutionists! I forgot again, damn it!
>
And witness the meltdown of Pastor Dave.
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DanielSan
> "raven1" <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote in message
> | On Thu, 15 May 2008 15:02:02 -0400, Pastor Dave
> |
> | >On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:52:43 GMT, "Pink Freud"
> | ><some...@here.com> spake thusly:
> | >
> | >
> | >>"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
> | >>news:iv0p24pfjdmdg92d2...@4ax.com...
> | >>
> | >>> On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:10:20 GMT, "Pink Freud"
> | >>> <some...@here.com> spake thusly:
> | >>>
> | >>>>"adman" <72...@hottmail.et> wrote in message
> | >>>>
> | >>>>> What really makes this astounding is that other geological
> researchers,
> | >>>>> using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant tsunami
> in
> | >>>>> the
> | >>>>> Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits of
> | >>>>> sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of
> | >>>>> satellite
> | >>>>> sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater")
> | >>>>> that
> | >>>>> seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so.
> |
> | considerably later, according to the chronology. 5,000 years ago is
> | only a century or so after the death of Adam, and well before Noah.
> |
> | >>>>> created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high"
> |
> | 600 feet high for long.
> |
> | >>>>> rain
> | >>>>> globally".
> |
> | enough to cover my neighborhood in Brooklyn (Dyker Heights), much less
> | the highest mountains, as the Biblical account claims.
> |
> | >>>>>
> | >>>>>
> | >>>>>
> | >>>>> Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around
> the
> | >>>>> world?
> | >>>>
> | >>>>Wow. That's incredible.
> | >>>>
> | >>>>Can you see Noah on Google Earth too?
> | >>>
> | >>> And this is the best the evolutionists can do,
> | >>> when presented with the facts! And yet,
> | >>> they think that somehow, "sarcasm = proof".
> | >>>
> | >>> is the proper question: Not too bright, huh?!
> | >>>
> | >>
> | >>Pffttt. Brighter than thinking that evidence of a tsunami somehow makes
> a
> | >>ludicrous biblical account true.
> | >
> | >Thanks for proving my point!
> | >
> | >
> | >>I have more respect for Christians who admit the Noah's ark story is
> some
> | >>sort of fable than those who flail around desperately for evidence to
> | >>support it.
> | >
> | >In other words, you only have respect for "Christians"
> |
> | Your notion that everything in the Bible is to be taken literally is a
> | minority view even among Christians.
> |
> | >
> | >Can you not see how ridiculous you are for ignoring
> | >the fact that there are too many flood areas to count
> | >and yet, you insist that they're all separate floods?
> |
> | for floods are also able to determine when they occurred to a great
> | degree of accuracy.
> |
> | >Let's see... In addition to the scientific evidence
> | >showing a vast amount of floods,
> |
> | Occurring at widely different times.
> |
> | > we also have
> | >about 300 flood accounts, which you dismiss all of.
> |
> | Floods occur all over the world. Why would it be a surprise that one
> | or more would be memorable enough that it passed down into the local
> | folklore?
> |
> | We also have continuous records from civilizations (Egypt, China) who
> | somehow managed to miss noticing any global flood occurring at the
> | time.
>
> and produced 25 in. of rain around the entire planet. Hurricane Katrina
> dropped a fraction of that rainfall and parts of New Orleans were completely
> obliterated with a 20 ft. wall of water.
New Orleans is below sea level. I'm 1000 feet above sea level. What
will a 600 foot tall wall of water do? I'm 400 feet above that.
>
> Damn you people are dumb. You utterly refused to accept any information that
> is contrary to your narrow belief system.
>
> Surely the in habitants of the earth at that time would have thought the
> entire planet was being flooded. And THAT is the reason WHY we have so many
> flood stories
>
> it is really THAT simple.
>
> Noah's flood happened.
Yet you can provide no evidence of it.
Cory Albrecht
>> | Hey adman, you cowardly fuck!
>> |
>> | Are you going to respond to this troll-storm
>> | you caused by cross posting your off-topic
>> | shit all over usenet? Or just sit back and
>> | watch the fireworks?
> C'mon man! What is wrong with you Creationists
> anyway?! Can't you even see the blazingly accurate
> scientific argument he made above, totally and
> completely demolishes any attempt you might make
> now, or the future, regarding Creationism being true?!
Funny how you try and characterize this as a "scientific argument" when
you run away from any actual scientific evidence such that you're
reduced to dishonestly altering quotes from people like Einstein.
DanielSan
I put the response at the bottom and I'll second it.
<snip extra groups
Mark Evans
> "Cary Kittrell" <c...@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
>
> | In article <QN_Wj.34337$7a.27...@bignews1.bellsouth.net> "adman"<72...@hottmail.et> writes:
>
> | > What really makes this astounding is that other geological researchers,
> | > using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant tsunami in
> the
> | > Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits of
> | > sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of
> satellite
> | > sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater")
> that
> | > seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so. The crater would have
> | > created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high" and deposited "25 feet of
> rain
> | > globally".
> | >
> | >
> | > Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around the
> world?
> |
> |
> | flood myths?
>
> no
> |
> | What would make you think that your particular myth
> | was the "right" one?
> |
> | I mean, the other myths do not talk about "Noah", you
> | know. They talk about figures from their own particular
> | cultures.
> |
> |
>
> Oh really now? Lets see...
>
> Islamic:Allah sent Noah to warn the people to serve none but Allah, but most
> of them would not listen.
>
> Russian: To find out why Noah was building an ark, the devil told Noah's
> wife to prepare a strong drink. Noah, drunk from this drink, told the secret
> God entrusted him with. The devil hindered Noah's work, and when the ship
> was finished, sneaked into it in the company of the wife, who had tempted
> her husband into saying the devil's name. Once in the ark, he assumed the
> form of a mouse and gnawed holes in the bottom of the ark.
>
> Herschel Island Eskimo: Noah invited all animals to save themselves aboard
> his ark, but the mammoths thought there would not be much of a flood and
> that their legs were long enough to deal with it, so they stayed outside and
> became extinct. The other animals believed Noah and were saved.
>
> All flood stories have a similar theme.And many mention noah, or a
> character like noah.
> Kramer, Samuel Noah (ed.). Mythologies of the Ancient World, Anchor Books,
> Garden City, NY. 1961.
>
> LaHaye, Tim & Morris, John. The Ark on Ararat, Thomas Nelson Inc. and
> Creation-Life Publishers, Nashville/New York. 1976.
>
> http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html
>
> You kooks make your nonsense up as you go along? seems so.
These stories date from AFTER the locals were exposed to Biblical
flood stories. Small wonder that the themes and names align. What
next, you going to claim that the Amerinds had cattle because 300
years ago they had a word for cow?
People have flood stories because people settle near lakes and rivers
in areas that flood. They also swap, trade, and steal stories. And
they like to make up stories to explain things and also to amuse
themselves. What part of "midrash" don't you understand. (I confess
that I may have spelled that wrong. I am not an expert in
transliterating old Hebrew into English.)
mark evans
Cory Albrecht
>>> "adman" <72...@hottmail.et> wrote in message
>>>> http://wavespace.info/archives/3-Flood-Evidence-Found-Using-Google-Ea...
>>>> Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around the
>>>> world?
> IOW you kooks CANNOT prove this article wrong, so you will make jokes, or
> call names
Unfortunately for you, an entry in somebody's blog that has no
references to sources is not "proof" of the flood.
Cory Albrecht
>>
>>>> Hmmm, the article makes the claim that these chevrons were found using
>>>> Google Earth, but why no images from Google Earth or even a link back
>>>> to the page of Google Earth on which they are supposed to have been
>>>> found?
>>> Pics or it didn't happen...
>> Okay, so then, by your own claim of what
>> constitutes proof, show us pics of evolution
>> in the millions of stages required for
>> macroevolution, or it didn't happen.
>>
>> don't have to provide proof! Just insults
>> and demands that the other person prove
>> it's not true!
>>
>> Hmmm... So why don't you do that here???
>>
>> Oh yea, that's right! That rule only gets applied
>> for evolutionists! I forgot again, damn it!
>>
> these fossils don't suddenly end at one point about 3000bc also
> doesn't agree with you, the fact that if Noahs ark did exist the
> logistics of it would require a craft anyone at that level of
> each species would probly immediately be killed by congenital birth
> defects within three generations off the ark disagree with you, the
> genetic record disagrees with you, the scientific method disagrees
> with you, every other mythology but your own disagrees with you, the
> archeological record of human artifacts disagrees with you, reason
> disagrees with you, the concept the plant life survived which would
> have been destroyed disagrees with you, the actal number of gallons of
> water in the world disagree with you
>
> Or in other words: YOU ARE WRONG!
>
> Hatter
>
> In are incorrect on all levels but i will discuss one. The boat Noah made
Translation: "I don't have the intellectually honesty to deal with
anything you said about fossils, archaeology, inbreeding and botany,
much less have actual science knowledge, so instead when I say I'm going
to 'discuss one' part of your post I'm actually going to rant about the
supposed stability of the Ark whch you never actually mentioned."
[...rant snipped...]
Cory Albrecht
> "Conspiracy of Doves" <mark...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:b5f27bb9-3e46-47d1...@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> | have ever happened and for us to have the world that we have today.
> The world was vey different pre-flood, so in a sense, we do not have the
> same world as we have today
Prove those differences. Cite the relevant geological papers.
adman
| On Thu, 15 May 2008 14:48:24 -0500, "adman"
| <72...@hottmail.et> spake thusly:
|
|
| >| >Can you see Noah on Google Earth too?
| >|
| >| And this is the best the evolutionists can do,
| >| when presented with the facts! And yet,
| >| they think that somehow, "sarcasm = proof".
| >|
| >| And what does that prove? That the following
| >| is the proper question: Not too bright, huh?!
| >
|
| Always! :)
|
| But please, do yourself a favor and remember that
| discussion we had before and note that I am not
| debating them and simply sweep out the trash
| without that. It is easy, since they're liars and know
| nothing about nothing and one simple comment
| demonstrates this! Get it? :)
Yes :)
Good job :-)
|
| --
|
| It's hard to stumble when you're down on your knees.
|
adman
"Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote in message
news:dj4Xj.17909$Nq2....@newsfe29.ams2...
Incorrect #2279 athiest-borg
The mountain ranges were nothing like we see today.
nuff said
|
|
adman
"Cary Kittrell" <ca...@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:g0i8d7$k2g$1...@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
| In article <xe1Xj.5011$255....@bignews8.bellsouth.net> "adman"
news:3b6ef9fc-7f82-445e...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
| > On May 15, 4:18 pm, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
| > > "Pink Freud" <somewh...@here.com>| > > >news:QN_Wj.34337$7a.2...@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
| > > > > What really makes this astounding is that other geological
| > > > > researchers,
| > > > > using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant
tsunami
| > > > > in
| > > > > the
| > > > > Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits
of
| > > > > sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of
| > > > > satellite
| > > > > sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle
Crater")
| > > > > that
| > > > > seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so. The crater
would
| > > > > have
| > > > > created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high" and deposited "25
feet of
| > > > > rain
| > > > > globally".
| > >
| > > >
| > >
| > > > > Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around
the
| > > > > world?
| > >
| > > > Wow. That's incredible.
| > >
| > > > Can you see Noah on Google Earth too?
| > >
| > >
| > > Actually...well, actually he's naked. Looks kind of wasted
| > > too, if you know what I mean.
| > >
| > > -- cary- Hide quoted text -
| > >
| > > - Show quoted text -
| >
| > Cary, get out of Dad's tent!
| >
| > Hatter
| >
| > IOW you kooks CANNOT prove this article wrong, so you will make jokes,
or
| > call names
|
|
| And the highest estimated runup was 200 m. [1]
|
| Do you know how much of the Earth's land is more than
| 200 m above sea level?
|
| (hint: the correct answer is "almost all of it")
|
| Sound like a flood that drowned the entire Earth
| to you?
|
|
| -- cary
|
|
| [1] http://www.knowledge.co.uk/sis/abstract/masse.htm. you really
| ought to do some reading, you know...
Free Clue Cary
The earth looked NOTHING back then like it looks now.
Get over it ------and your man made science.
adman
| In article
<3b6ef9fc-7f82-445e...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> Hatter
<Hatt...@gmail.com> writes:
| > On May 15, 4:18=A0pm, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
| > > "Pink Freud" <somewh...@here.com>
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > > > "adman" <72...@hottmail.et> wrote in message
| > > >news:QN_Wj.34337$7a.2...@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
| > > > > What really makes this astounding is that other geological
| > ,
| > > > > using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant
| > n
| > > > > the
| > > > > Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits
of
| > > > > sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of
| > ite
| > > > > sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle
| > hat
| > > > > seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so. The crater
| > ve
| > > > > created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high" and deposited "25
| >
| > > > > rain
| > > > > globally".
| > >
| > > >
>http://wavespace.info/archives/3-Flood-Evidence-Found-Using-Google-Ea..=
| > .
| > >
| > > > > Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around
the
| > > > > world?
| > >
| > > > Wow. That's incredible.
| > >
| > > > Can you see Noah on Google Earth too?
| > >
| > > Sure can.
| > >
| > > too, if you know what I mean.
| > >
| > > -- cary- Hide quoted text -
| > >
| > > - Show quoted text -
| >
| > Cary, get out of Dad's tent!
| >
| > Hatter
|
|
| For I have accidentaly stumbled upon my drunken old man
| naked as the day he was born. Obviously this is ALL
| my fault, and I deserve to be a slave to my brothers'
| wills for the rest of my life.
|
| I mean, God is Nothing if He is not good.
|
| (and you may make of that what you will...)
|
|
| -- cary
Like i said... You have NOTHING but your jokes.
I hope THAT keeps you warm on Judgement Day.
adman
"Pink Freud" <some...@here.com> wrote in message
news:bP1Xj.4099$DZ6...@text.news.virginmedia.com...| news:ds9p24tio7uhpgp4j...@4ax.com...
| > On Thu, 15 May 2008 15:15:10 -0500, "adman"
| > <72...@hottmail.et> spake thusly:
| >
| >
| > stones and realize that gee, no, we can't do that
| > even today.
|
|
| Cite?
No evidence of your own, only laughter...
Cite?
|
|
|
adman
| On Thu, 15 May 2008 14:39:56 -0500, "adman"
| <72...@hottmail.et> spake thusly:
|
|
| >| Hey adman, you cowardly fuck!
| >|
| >| Are you going to respond to this troll-storm
| >| you caused by cross posting your off-topic
| >| shit all over usenet? Or just sit back and
| >| watch the fireworks?
| >
| >making you kooks chase your tales so I decided
| >to let him have some fun. It's amusing how
| >easily you are baited.
|
| Awww, you are just so wrong, Adman!!!
|
| I didn't "bait them". They come running looking
| for dinner! Too bad they're still hungry, huh? :)
|
| Dude man... Don't you know that calling you
| an ignorant f*ck is a totally scientific response
| the data and that when the data doesn't say
| what you want, you should insult the other
| person and pretend it's a scientific response?!
|
| And don't you know that when you stay and debate,
| that it means that you're a coward, like the man said?
|
| C'mon man! What is wrong with you Creationists
| anyway?! Can't you even see the blazingly accurate
| scientific argument he made above, totally and
| completely demolishes any attempt you might make
| now, or the future, regarding Creationism being true?!
|
How can I be logical when THEY are so illogical?!!!
adman
Incorrect again Athiest-Borg # 2279
You seem to make a habit of being wrong. Perhaps you should consult your
collective.
adman
"Mark Evans" <mev...@gcfn.org> wrote in message
news:0f955cf7-8093-4e04...@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
You are INcorrect kook.
Go read the stories and come back with a single mind and not a collective
borg-like mind.
Darrell Stec
> Dude man... Don't you know that calling you
> an ignorant f*ck is a totally scientific response
And this coming from a man who pretends to be a Christian minister!! Of
course we all know Davie Boy is a fraud and fake. He never had a formal
education in scripture nor theology. He never was ordained by any
mainstream ministry. He was never affiliated with any of the mainstream
congregations although he calls his church by the name of one, but they
have no record of his church or him. He never registered (as a nonprofit)
his "church" which consists of three to five members at any given time,
held in his garage. And even though he use to use his church's name in his
signature, he never filed a fictitious name in the county or state of
Florida (his home is in or near Tampa). All in all Davie is a fraud with
little learning even of that bible in front of him.
Guess what that makes his opinion?
--
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Mike Painter
>
> Ok, you want a proper refutation, here goes.
>
> Your bible states that, in the supposed worldwide flood, every
> mountain was covered by water.
Some will argue that it was *only* a local flood and that only local
mountains were covered...
Typical thoughtless reaction.
Water seeks it's own level.
************
Those with a basic understanding can stop here.
************
For the rest, this means that if your local mountain was 500 feet high and
covered then *everything* in teh world was covered to a depth of 500 feet.
You could of course postulate an ice damn around the area but we know what
the earth looks like when such a damn fails.
DanielSan
I'm trying to imagine adman in elementary school:
Teacher: "Okay, class, 2+2=4."
adman: "You are INcorrect kook."
Teacher: "I'm sorry, but I am correct. And do not insult."
adman: "I'm sorry, but you ARE incorrect, kook. Come back with a single
mind and not a collective Borg-like mind. 2+2=4. LOL! You math
believers are funny!"
Darrell Stec
>>I have more respect for Christians who admit the Noah's ark story is some
>>sort of fable than those who flail around desperately for evidence to
>>support it.
>
> In other words, you only have respect for "Christians"
> who reject the Bible. Yea, you're really bright, huh?!
>
The vast majority of Jews from whom the Christians borrow the Old Testament,
and the vast majority of Christians admit the stories of Adam & Eve, Noah's
Ark, the Tower of Babel and Samson are fables written to make a theological
point. It even states that as a footnote noting the sources in some
Christian bibles. In other bibles such as the Anchor Bible and the
Interpreter's Bible they have lengthy discussions on the nature and source
of those fables rather than a brief footnote. You, FAKE (pastor) Davie
Boy, are in the minority.
Knowing the difference between a fable (and parable) and a literal, real
event does not constitute a rejection of scripture but rather an acceptance
and knowledge of the information conveyed in it. Even in the seminary
(formal education in scripture, theology and scriptural languages) we read
footnotes in the various bibles that spoke of fables. Alas your willful
ignorance arises from the fact that you never took advantage of a formal
education.
Gabriel
wrote:
: What really makes this astounding is that other geological researchers,
: using Google Earth, found characteristic features of a giant tsunami in the
: Indian Ocean. The features are called chevrons, enormous deposits of
: sediment pointing radially back to a common center. Analysis of satellite
: sea-surface data led to the discovery of a crater ("Burckle Crater") that
: seems to be about the right age, 5000 years or so. The crater would have
: created a tsunami with "waves 600 feet high" and deposited "25 feet of rain
: globally".
:
: http://wavespace.info/archives/3-Flood-Evidence-Found-Using-Google-Earth.html
:
: Is there no wonder there are hundres of flood stories from around the world?
Not at all, if you believe God did exactly what He said He did.
Evidence is all over the place - evolutionists scramble to try
explaining them all away, or just attacking those who point it
out.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2007/12/29/news-to-note-12292007
October: Texas Canyon Formed by Recent Flood
http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=220&pid=0&sid=1262281&page=1
(Originally reported on in News to Note, October 13, 2007 item
#2.)
Even secular scientists agree that the mile-and-a-half-long
Canyon Lake Gorge, Texas, which is up to 80 feet (24 m) deep,
didn’t take millions of years—rather, it was carved out in three
short days in July 2002.
When the spillway to Canyon Lake in Texas overflowed five years
ago, the resulting torrent sliced through layer after layer of
rock in just three days, creating a canyon that looks like a
miniature of the Grand Canyon in Arizona.
The water exposed “rock formations, fossils and even dinosaur
footprints” and dug so deeply that Bill Ward, a retired
University of New Orleans geology professor, who has spent time
examining the gorge, commented that “there wasn’t a blade of
grass or a layer of algae [left].”
Why is it that, even in the face of firsthand evidence that deep
gorges can be formed by floods in mere days, secular scientists
still insist other canyons took millions of years to form—even
when no one observed these millions of years? The answer, of
course, is that these uniformitarian interpretations are a
linchpin of the “geologic column,” the long-age interpretation of
the fossil record that is absolutely required for Darwinism to
make sense.
In spite of this, secular scientists have not been able to deny
the evidence for rapid formation of numerous geologic features
worldwide, especially when the evidence occurs right before our
eyes! And if a single overflowing spillway in Texas can carve a
mile-and-half-long, 80-foot-deep gorge in three days, imagine the
geological havoc a worldwide Flood—and its retreat—would cause
over the span of more than a year!
towelie
> Sers L. et all
>
> L. Raymond schrieb:
>
>>> Dude man... Don't you know that calling you
>>> an ignorant f*ck is a totally scientific response
>>
>> don't do it at all.
>
> ohoh, but then he will burn in hell, nogood, nogood. Are pastors
> allowed to say or write FUCK? But - why not, they are allowed to be
> fucking liars, so why shouldn't this crackpot write *FUCK*? Maybe he
> couldn't remember if it was *FUCK* or *FICK* or *FACK*
Are they allowed to think of the word "fuck"? Oh yeah, they're not allowed
to think.
DanielSan
...something that is manmade...
> to Canyon Lake in Texas overflowed five years
> ago, the resulting torrent sliced through layer after layer of
> rock in just three days, creating a canyon that looks like a
> miniature of the Grand Canyon in Arizona.
>
> The water exposed “rock formations, fossils and even dinosaur
> footprints” and dug so deeply that Bill Ward, a retired
> University of New Orleans geology professor, who has spent time
> examining the gorge, commented that “there wasn’t a blade of
> grass or a layer of algae [left].”
>
> Why is it that, even in the face of firsthand evidence that deep
> gorges can be formed by floods in mere days, secular scientists
> still insist other canyons took millions of years to form—even
> when no one observed these millions of years?
Possibly because the Grand Canyon (and other canyons like it) are not
the result of manmade structures inhibiting the natural path of water.
> The answer, of
> course, is that these uniformitarian interpretations are a
> linchpin of the “geologic column,” the long-age interpretation of
> the fossil record that is absolutely required for Darwinism to
> make sense.
Err....what?
>
> In spite of this, secular scientists have not been able to deny
> the evidence for rapid formation of numerous geologic features
> worldwide, especially when the evidence occurs right before our
> eyes! And if a single overflowing spillway in Texas can carve a
> mile-and-half-long, 80-foot-deep gorge in three days, imagine the
> geological havoc a worldwide Flood—and its retreat—would cause
> over the span of more than a year!
And yet, there's no evidence of a worldwide flood. There is evidence of
regional floods in various locations in various points of history, but
there is no evidence of a single worldwide flood happening all at once.