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johac

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Apr 24, 2008, 1:32:25 AM4/24/08
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So let's see. We're supposed to form a prayer circle around the pumps
and Gawd will send down the gas fairy to automatically lower the prices?

Sure.

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Prayer At the Pump

Posted: 5:40 PM Apr 23, 2008
Last Updated: 5:40 PM Apr 23, 2008
Reporter: Associated Press


Rocky Twyman says nothing else has worked, so he's urging motorists to
pray for lower gasoline prices when they fuel up.
Twyman says he and his fellow volunteers at a church soup kitchen
launched "Pray at the Pump" today at a gas station in Washington D.C.
After fueling up their cars, Twyman says they bowed their heads and
asked God for cheaper gas.
There was no immediate answer, but he says other motorists joined in and
the service station owner didn't run them off.
Twyman says that if God brought down the walls of Jericho when the
ancient Hebrews prayed, then divine intervention can bring down gas
prices too.


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http://www.wilx.com/news/headlines/18062644.html
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John #1782

John Locke

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Apr 24, 2008, 2:33:18 AM4/24/08
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:32:25 -0700, johac
<jhac...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>So let's see. We're supposed to form a prayer circle around the pumps
>and Gawd will send down the gas fairy to automatically lower the prices?
>

..and if it goes to $10.00 per gallon then it will be "God's will".
Religious morons..will they ever learn ?


"It is far better to grasp the Universe
as it really is than to persist in delusion,
however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan

Hatter

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Apr 24, 2008, 10:44:36 AM4/24/08
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On Apr 24, 2:33 am, John Locke <johnlocke98...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:32:25 -0700, johac
>

but if it dropps by 8 cents a gallon in the meantime....Amazing...they
can claim it worked

Hatter

Santolina chamaecyparissus

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Apr 24, 2008, 11:50:59 AM4/24/08
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On Apr 23, 10:32 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> So let's see. We're supposed to form a prayer circle around the pumps
> and Gawd will send down the gas fairy to automatically lower the prices?
>
> Sure.
>
> ---
> Prayer At the Pump  
>
> Posted: 5:40 PM Apr 23, 2008
> Last Updated: 5:40 PM Apr 23, 2008
> Reporter: Associated Press
>
> Rocky Twyman says nothing else has worked, so he's urging motorists to
> pray for lower gasoline prices when they fuel up.
> Twyman says he and his fellow volunteers at a church soup kitchen
> launched "Pray at the Pump" today at a gas station in Washington D.C.
> After fueling up their cars, Twyman says they bowed their heads and
> asked God for cheaper gas.


The problem is that there is a greater power than God at work here:
ExxonMobil.

William Wingstedt

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Apr 24, 2008, 12:53:45 PM4/24/08
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:32:25 -0700, johac
<jhac...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Here's the text of my prayer:

Goddamn gas prices!

John Locke

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Apr 24, 2008, 12:58:35 PM4/24/08
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:44:36 -0700 (PDT), Hatter <Hatt...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Exactly. Its always a win win situation for the religious drones.
That's why its a lost cause to debate with them. Everything that
happens on this earth is "God's work" or "God's will".

Ben Kaufman

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Apr 24, 2008, 2:15:34 PM4/24/08
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:32:25 -0700, johac <jhac...@remove.sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

What the heck are they putting in that soup?

Ben

panam...@hotmail.com

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Apr 24, 2008, 2:31:36 PM4/24/08
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On Apr 24, 1:32 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> So let's see. We're supposed to form a prayer circle around the pumps
> and Gawd will send down the gas fairy to automatically lower the prices?
>
> Sure.

I could live with the prices if I could still get real gasoline.
Atlanta metro is trying to bully everyone into selling a 10% ethanol
blend. Ignoring for the moment the reduced fuel mileage...the alcohol
will eat my old German crocks alive. I bet i'll take about $12-1500 to
repair the fuel injection on one of my Corrados. Hell, even the gas
tank is plastic on those cars. :<

-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!

Doc Smartass

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Apr 24, 2008, 9:25:49 PM4/24/08
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johac <jhac...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:jhachmann-
0C1F57.223...@news.giganews.com:

> http://www.wilx.com/news/headlines/18062644.html

Guess it never occurred to them that "god's president" is the one they
need to talk to, since gawd "told" Chimp to invade Iraq.

--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939

Religion is scapegoating writ large. -- Christopher Hitchens

Doc Smartass

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Apr 24, 2008, 9:29:37 PM4/24/08
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Santolina chamaecyparissus <sant...@juno.com> wrote in news:6bdb9105-
6075-485e-b60...@b5g2000pri.googlegroups.com:

Or Allah, since it's his guys sitting on that oil.

Mike Painter

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Apr 24, 2008, 11:03:10 PM4/24/08
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The local newspaper reported a prayer circle at the local hospital a while
back. Seems somebody got in an automobile accident and was not expected to
live.
So they prayed for recovery.

"Whatever you ask for in my name..." seems to have a few tens of billions of
exceptions.
The person died.
Doctors predictions 1
Prayer 0


DanielSan

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Apr 24, 2008, 11:03:54 PM4/24/08
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They didn't pray hard enough. So saith Mark Earnest.

John Locke

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Apr 24, 2008, 11:39:46 PM4/24/08
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They probably kicked over his IV during their
prayer contortions and convulsions.

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Preventer of Work

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Apr 26, 2008, 12:16:22 AM4/26/08
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Doc Smartass wrote:
> Santolina chamaecyparissus <sant...@juno.com> wrote in news:6bdb9105-
> 6075-485e-b60...@b5g2000pri.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Apr 23, 10:32 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> So let's see. We're supposed to form a prayer circle around the pumps
>>> and Gawd will send down the gas fairy to automatically lower the
> prices?
>>> Sure.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Prayer At the Pump
>>>
>>> Posted: 5:40 PM Apr 23, 2008
>>> Last Updated: 5:40 PM Apr 23, 2008
>>> Reporter: Associated Press
>>>
>>> Rocky Twyman says nothing else has worked, so he's urging motorists to
>>> pray for lower gasoline prices when they fuel up.
>>> Twyman says he and his fellow volunteers at a church soup kitchen
>>> launched "Pray at the Pump" today at a gas station in Washington D.C.
>>> After fueling up their cars, Twyman says they bowed their heads and
>>> asked God for cheaper gas.
>>
>> The problem is that there is a greater power than God at work here:
>> ExxonMobil.
>
> Or Allah, since it's his guys sitting on that oil.
>

I have found the Allah they pray to, and in keeping with traditions if
the faith, there is no picture.

http://www.footballmercato.com/en_jccpd_4244.html

johac

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Apr 26, 2008, 1:36:46 AM4/26/08
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In article <q47t3q5tu6re.1hmcck5ve2ols$.d...@40tude.net>,
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@....com> wrote:

> johac wrote:
>
> > So let's see. We're supposed to form a prayer circle around the pumps
> > and Gawd will send down the gas fairy to automatically lower the prices?
> >

> > http://www.wilx.com/news/headlines/18062644.html
>
> I hope they remember to pray to Allah; he has a lot more clout in the
> Middle East.

Good point. Next time I fill up, I'll ask the attendant for a Quran.
--
John #1782

johac

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Apr 26, 2008, 1:37:52 AM4/26/08
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In article <GQbQj.3273$26....@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>,
"Mike Painter" <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

I'm sure that praying for lower prices at the pump would be just as
effective.
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John #1782

johac

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Apr 26, 2008, 1:39:36 AM4/26/08
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In article <Xns9A8ACFFB198F...@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:

Maybe if they flrm a prayer circle around the White House Bush will go
away before the election. If that happens I may start believing again.
;-)
--
John #1782

johac

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Apr 26, 2008, 1:44:45 AM4/26/08
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In article
<3d5bcccc-a74b-4545...@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
panam...@hotmail.com wrote:

I heard that they want to go to 85% ethanol. Not only is does ethanol
dissolve plastic, but ethanol is hygroscopic, ie picks up water, which
will cause metal corrosion and problems starting in cold weather.

Gasohol is not the solution.
>
> -Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
> aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
--
John #1782

johac

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Apr 26, 2008, 1:46:09 AM4/26/08
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In article <iej1141pgn5jf6ms2...@4ax.com>,
Ben Kaufman <spaXm-mXe-anXd-p...@pobox.com> wrote:

Who knows. Something very strange, I'll bet.
>
> Ben
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John #1782

johac

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Apr 26, 2008, 1:48:22 AM4/26/08
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In article <4810badb...@Newsgroups.Comcast.net>,
William_...@comcast.net (William Wingstedt) wrote:

I heard the guy at the pump across from me last week. He must have been
very devout since every 10 seconds he'd say "Jesus Christ!"


>
> >
> >---
> >http://www.wilx.com/news/headlines/18062644.html
> >--
> >John #1782

--
John #1782

johac

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Apr 26, 2008, 1:49:07 AM4/26/08
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In article
<6bdb9105-6075-485e...@b5g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
Santolina chamaecyparissus <sant...@juno.com> wrote:

I wonder how much stock in them Gawd owns?
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John #1782

johac

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Apr 26, 2008, 1:51:45 AM4/26/08
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In article <b9a014d8sljc0tq7o...@4ax.com>,
John Locke <johnloc...@comcast.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:32:25 -0700, johac
> <jhac...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >So let's see. We're supposed to form a prayer circle around the pumps
> >and Gawd will send down the gas fairy to automatically lower the prices?
> >
> ..and if it goes to $10.00 per gallon then it will be "God's will".
> Religious morons..will they ever learn ?

Nah. They'll probably blame it on teaching evolution in schools, gays,
and abortion. The usual suspects.
>
>
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John #1782

Apostate

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Apr 26, 2008, 2:04:14 AM4/26/08
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Of course, it's the other way around.

--
Apostate
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BAAWA Knife AND SMASHer
EAC Deputy Director in Charge of Being Paid, Department of Redundancy Department

"Mr. Worf, set phasers on "Fuck You" and fire at will."
. -- Doc Smartass

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Ben Kaufman

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Apr 26, 2008, 10:37:40 AM4/26/08
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:44:45 -0700, johac <jhac...@remove.sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

That will be a riot, literally, when crops go to gas tanks rather than tummies.

Ben

Mike Painter

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Apr 26, 2008, 12:21:14 PM4/26/08
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johac wrote:
<snip>

>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> http://www.wilx.com/news/headlines/18062644.html
>>
>> What the heck are they putting in that soup?
>
> Who knows. Something very strange, I'll bet.


One potatoe (sic) per one hundred gallons of water. Starvation can induce
all kinds of belief.


johac

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Apr 27, 2008, 12:06:51 AM4/27/08
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In article <odh514t3j5olaopjt...@4ax.com>,
Apostate <godless...@yeehaw.org.invalid> wrote:

They own God, Inc. now? Was it a hostile takeover?
--
John #1782

johac

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Apr 27, 2008, 12:09:20 AM4/27/08
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In article <RCIQj.3460$26....@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>,
"Mike Painter" <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

The Dan Quayle diet.
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John #1782

johac

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Apr 27, 2008, 12:10:38 AM4/27/08
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In article <1ff614tomn6bu07gf...@4ax.com>,
Ben Kaufman <spaXm-mXe-anXd-p...@pobox.com> wrote:

There are food riots in other parts of the world already. It's only a
matter of time before they start in the USA
>
> Ben
--
John #1782

johac

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Apr 27, 2008, 12:11:58 AM4/27/08
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In article <tfqdnZP2CveU14zV...@comcast.com>,
DanielSan <daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Or the people that they were praying for were unrepentant sinners or
non-belivers and deserved what they got.
--
John #1782

DanielSan

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Apr 27, 2008, 12:20:25 AM4/27/08
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Or the people around them were praying harder for the accident victim to
die than the people that were praying for the victim to live.

See, when you are a solipsistic theist (and an idiot), you can make up
anything you want and attribute it to other people. It is the
quintessence of projection.

V

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Apr 27, 2008, 7:19:50 AM4/27/08
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On Apr 24, 1:32�am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> So let's see. We're supposed to form a prayer circle around the pumps
> and Gawd will send down the gas fairy to automatically lower the prices?
>
> Sure.
>
> ---
> Prayer At the Pump �
>
> Posted: 5:40 PM Apr 23, 2008
> Last Updated: 5:40 PM Apr 23, 2008
> Reporter: Associated Press
>
> Rocky Twyman says nothing else has worked, so he's urging motorists to
> pray for lower gasoline prices when they fuel up.
> Twyman says he and his fellow volunteers at a church soup kitchen
> launched "Pray at the Pump" today at a gas station in Washington D.C.
> After fueling up their cars, Twyman says they bowed their heads and
> asked God for cheaper gas.
> There was no immediate answer, but he says other motorists joined in and
> the service station owner didn't run them off.
> Twyman says that if God brought down the walls of Jericho when the
> ancient Hebrews prayed, then divine intervention can bring down gas
> prices too.
>
> ---http://www.wilx.com/news/headlines/18062644.html
> --
> John #1782


We have the tiger by the tail, we CAN'T let go and all hell is going
to break loose soon

WE CAN'T CHANGE....IT IS ALL WE KNOW!

God isn't going to fix this mess my delusional theist friends.

When the subject turns to sustainability...lets be honest, we only pay
it lip service.

We talk of living in a sustainable world, yet our actions betray our
true feelings. All we have to do is to look at the stock market to
see what happens when growth declines even a little.

Even if a company yields stable earning, but does not grow its
earnings it is looked down upon. Stability and balance is part of a
sustainable footprint, yet we shun such balance.

A good book that discusses concepts of sustainability is: 'Peak
Everything' by Richard Heinberg

America is built on debt and spending.

Without compulsive spending and conspicuous consumption we would fail
as a country.

70% of our 'economic heath,' better termed as 'economic sickness' is
based on consumer spending. When the consumer can't compulsively spend
any longer our economy collapses...we are not a healthy country.

China on the other hand is built on selling its output not only to its
countries citizens but the entire world...especially the USA. America
has become the bitch of China.

With one breath we talk about cutting global warming and how we have
to cut our dependence of fossil fuel.

Then with the next breath we demand no cut backs in our standard of
living, we must spend and consume above all else...build more, build
faster, build bigger.

The GDP must only go up, up and away...all the while this consumption
just increases global warming and keeps depleting the fossil fuels
faster and faster. Sick...sick..sick mentality, buy more cars, build
more houses and monstrosities of architecture, spend more but 'cut
back' to save our dear fossil fuels.

And leading the pack of over consumers is the USA.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/ene_oil_con-energy-oil-consumption

Consumption is ingrained in us and we know no other way. And even if
we wished to amend our ways, how could all our retirement funds take
the hit?

Our world population has grown to levels where it has passed the point
of no return for supporting a sustainable human population as we know
it today when it comes to their energy demands.

And what does all that consumerism lead to?

It leads to the mess we are in now and the bigger mess the world will
be in once India and China pick up momentum to copycat the envious
lifestyle that they have held in high esteem as the 'American Dream'

The problem is not with the earth having enough land for all its
people - the problem is with earth providing ad infinitum for all the
needs the people crave.

The more people born, the more heat is produced from their life and
all their cravings, As such, the warmer and more polluted the earth
gets and the more energy they all use and the earths resources are
depleted.

Fueling the problem of consumption is the games the Federal and World
banks play with interest rates. They manage the economies in ways to
fuel consumption and mask the real trend.

Witness the recent cries for Federal bankers to lower interest
rates...so the stock market can go up...fueled by spending of the
consumer.

It is drug habit that Greenspan got us hooked on and we just can't get
away from.

Our economy is not based on sustainable health - it is based low
interest credit to encourage compulsive spending, debt and living a
life of constant consumption with a 'disposable mentality' when it
comes to durable goods.

All this consumption to artificially fuel our economy to make our
retirement funds only go up contributes to more and more global
warming and the depletion of our natural resources.

Then the governments juggle the numbers to make the inflation figures
seem artificially low, so everyone's retirement portfolio will make
them happy so they will continue to buy and consume more...and on it
goes....IT IS ALL WE KNOW and the bill is coming due soon!

Is the LE here or just starting?

Well, I'd say look for signposts that will answer your question.

Such as...widespread US civil unrest, never ending gas rations,
commercial airlines have shut down, widespread unemployment, REAL food
shortages*, trucks having trouble making deliveries to Walmart do to
lack of diesel, widespread power outages, people freezing to death
because of heating oil and NG shortages, gold and silver in the
stratosphere and the like.

...no, we are not there yet.

* Re:: real food shortages. Rice has been in the news lately as a
commodity in short supply. I was at a couple of Sams Clubs in the OH /
PA area yesterday. While they said they were limiting purchases to 200
pounds a day they had 2 pallets of 50 pound sacks of rice sitting
there. No doubt there may be shortages of rice in high Hispanic and
oriental populations. But this is localized. Real food shortages are
empty shelves day after day all over the US of A!

You still have some valuable time left to prepare for what awaits you
down the road.

We are in the 'Indian Summer'. Don't wait until the winter sets in to
start work on your preparedness efforts.


Take care,


V (Male)

Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
Futurist
Urban Homesteader
Agnostic minister of secular humanism to the mind manacled,
spiritually sick, defiance based atheist.
AA#2

johac

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Apr 28, 2008, 12:29:54 AM4/28/08
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In article <Kq6dneYDj8GVYo7V...@comcast.com>,
DanielSan <daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes. that's another angle.

>
> See, when you are a solipsistic theist (and an idiot), you can make up
> anything you want and attribute it to other people. It is the
> quintessence of projection.

I think godswill covers just about any thing. If he lived, it was god's
will, if he died it was god's will. Godswill is the all purpse excuse
for the superstitious.
--
John #1782

DanielSan

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Apr 28, 2008, 12:33:09 AM4/28/08
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Or, if you don't know why, it's God's will. After all, he's terribly
mysterious.

Plus, he can, like, cut guns in half with his mind!

Apostate

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Apr 28, 2008, 1:02:20 AM4/28/08
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And that, of course, is god swill.

johac

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Apr 29, 2008, 12:37:42 AM4/29/08
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In article <1ima14d5p9rkf3bfa...@4ax.com>,
Apostate <godless...@yeehaw.org.invalid> wrote:

It all depends where you put the hyphen.
--
John #1782

johac

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Apr 29, 2008, 12:40:22 AM4/29/08
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In article <IcqdnQgiA8YZzojV...@comcast.com>,
DanielSan <daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > will, if he died it was god's will. Godswill is the all purpose excuse

> > for the superstitious.
>
> Or, if you don't know why, it's God's will. After all, he's terribly
> mysterious.

Like most imaginary characters. (The others are inscrutable.)

>
> Plus, he can, like, cut guns in half with his mind!

SuperGod! Does he have X-ray vision too?
--
John #1782

DanielSan

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Apr 29, 2008, 12:43:06 AM4/29/08
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Sorry, I was referencing The Sphinx from the movie "Mystery Men". :-)

The Blue Raja: Well, there's The Sphinx, of course.
Mr. Furious: The what?
The Blue Raja: The Sphinx.
The Shoveller: I know this guy. Big crime-fighter from down South.
Big-league hitter down there.
Mr. Furious: What's his power?
The Blue Raja: Well, he's terribly mysterious.
Mr. Furious: That's it? That's his power? He's mysterious?
The Blue Raja: Well, TERRIBLY mysterious.
The Shoveller: Plus he can, like, cut guns in half with his mind.

Apostate

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Apr 29, 2008, 1:33:16 AM4/29/08
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On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:37:42 -0700, johac
<jhac...@remove.sbcglobal.net>, wrote:

I lost my hyphen.

No idea where it is now.

Doc Smartass

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Apr 29, 2008, 8:26:37 PM4/29/08
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Preventer of Work <not_...@nospam.xxx> wrote in news:q0yQj.221315
$pM4.37737@pd7urf1no:

Hah!

--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939

Religion is scapegoating writ large. -- Christopher Hitchens

johac

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Apr 30, 2008, 12:51:07 AM4/30/08
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In article <kaGdnUqgQajKOovV...@comcast.com>,
DanielSan <daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm afraid I'm not too familiar with the new breed of superheroes. I
never got past Superman, Batman, Captain Marvel, the Shadow, etc.
--
John #1782

johac

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In article <tncd14d4v6pui8aik...@4ax.com>,
Apostate <godless...@yeehaw.org.invalid> wrote:

I usually do that with my car keys. Or my eyeglasses. I usually find the
latter on my nose.
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John #1782

DanielSan

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Apr 30, 2008, 6:58:29 AM4/30/08
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Mystery Men is a parody (sort of) on superhero lore. It features
not-so-powerful "heroes" that go up against a supervillain after he
kidnaps the local superhero. Stars William H. Macy, Ben Stiller, Paul
"Pee Wee Herman" Reubens, Janeane Garofalo, Hank Azaria, and Geoffrey
Rush, among others.

Fun comedy. :-)

johac

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In article <-uadneeDU7FPzYXV...@comcast.com>,
DanielSan <daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sounds like it. :-)
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John #1782

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