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John Manning
May 23, 2013, 2:25:55 PM5/23/13
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The criteria were developed by
an IRS screening group in Cincinnati
"based on cases they were seeing,"
Cindy Thomas, a supervisor in the
Cincinnati office, wrote in a June 2011
email to an official in Washington.
"When the screening group starts seeing
new type cases that have similar issues,
they meet and come up with criteria
to identify 'emerging issue' and elevate
information," she wrote.
-- Internal IRS emails analyzed by the Wall Street Journal
indicate -- albeit not conclusively -- that the agency's
targeting of conservative groups was designed by low-level
employees in the Cincinnati office.
From the Wall Street Journal:
House Oversight Committee staff on Wednesday released several
documents related to the matter—including the IRS emails and a 2012
statement by Ms. Lerner—that helped provide a clearer picture of
what happened.
The criteria were developed by an IRS screening group in Cincinnati
"based on cases they were seeing," Cindy Thomas, a supervisor in
the Cincinnati office, wrote in a June 2011 email to an official in
Washington.
"When the screening group starts seeing new type cases that have
similar issues, they meet and come up with criteria to identify
'emerging issue' and elevate information," she wrote.
In another email from June 2011, a screening manager in Cincinnati,
John Shafer, outlined the criteria the group was using to select
applications for extra review. They included references in the case
file to "tea party," "patriots" or "9/12 Project"; issues such as
government spending, debt and taxes; advocacy or legislative
activity to "make America a better place to live"; and "statements
in the case file that are critical of…how the country is being run."
The Journal notes that the emails don't rule out involvement
by high-level officials but they also don't contain any evidence
that the targeting scheme was developed by anyone other than
low-level staffers.
^^ Links included:
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/internal-emails-indicate-irs-targeting-designed-by-low
A Really Really Large Number
May 23, 2013, 2:32:32 PM5/23/13
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On May 23, 2:25 pm, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
So king dunce manning calling mormonism and joseph smith the biggest
fraud the world has ever seen
overlooks the fact the gold plates came out of the hill and hides
behind his judges legs because of the gag order.
So king dunce manning calling mormonism and joseph smith the biggest
fraud the world has ever seen
overlooks the fact the gold plates came out of the hill and hides
behind his judges legs because of the gag order.
Tom McDonald
May 23, 2013, 2:49:36 PM5/23/13
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On 5/23/2013 1:25 PM, John Manning wrote:
>
>
> The criteria were developed by
> an IRS screening group in Cincinnati
> "based on cases they were seeing,"
> Cindy Thomas, a supervisor in the
> Cincinnati office, wrote in a June 2011
> email to an official in Washington.
>
> "When the screening group starts seeing
> new type cases that have similar issues,
> they meet and come up with criteria
> to identify 'emerging issue' and elevate
> information," she wrote.
>
>
> -- Internal IRS emails analyzed by the Wall Street Journal
> indicate -- albeit not conclusively -- that the agency's
> targeting of conservative groups was designed by low-level
> employees in the Cincinnati office.
>
> From the Wall Street Journal:
>
> House Oversight Committee staff on Wednesday released several
> documents related to the matter�including the IRS emails and a 2012
>
>
> The criteria were developed by
> an IRS screening group in Cincinnati
> "based on cases they were seeing,"
> Cindy Thomas, a supervisor in the
> Cincinnati office, wrote in a June 2011
> email to an official in Washington.
>
> "When the screening group starts seeing
> new type cases that have similar issues,
> they meet and come up with criteria
> to identify 'emerging issue' and elevate
> information," she wrote.
>
>
> -- Internal IRS emails analyzed by the Wall Street Journal
> indicate -- albeit not conclusively -- that the agency's
> targeting of conservative groups was designed by low-level
> employees in the Cincinnati office.
>
> From the Wall Street Journal:
>
> House Oversight Committee staff on Wednesday released several
> statement by Ms. Lerner�that helped provide a clearer picture of
> what happened.
>
> The criteria were developed by an IRS screening group in Cincinnati
> "based on cases they were seeing," Cindy Thomas, a supervisor in
> the Cincinnati office, wrote in a June 2011 email to an official in
> Washington.
>
> "When the screening group starts seeing new type cases that have
> similar issues, they meet and come up with criteria to identify
> 'emerging issue' and elevate information," she wrote.
>
> In another email from June 2011, a screening manager in Cincinnati,
> John Shafer, outlined the criteria the group was using to select
> applications for extra review. They included references in the case
> file to "tea party," "patriots" or "9/12 Project"; issues such as
> government spending, debt and taxes; advocacy or legislative
> activity to "make America a better place to live"; and "statements
> in the case file that are critical of�how the country is being run."
>
> The criteria were developed by an IRS screening group in Cincinnati
> "based on cases they were seeing," Cindy Thomas, a supervisor in
> the Cincinnati office, wrote in a June 2011 email to an official in
> Washington.
>
> "When the screening group starts seeing new type cases that have
> similar issues, they meet and come up with criteria to identify
> 'emerging issue' and elevate information," she wrote.
>
> In another email from June 2011, a screening manager in Cincinnati,
> John Shafer, outlined the criteria the group was using to select
> applications for extra review. They included references in the case
> file to "tea party," "patriots" or "9/12 Project"; issues such as
> government spending, debt and taxes; advocacy or legislative
> activity to "make America a better place to live"; and "statements
>
> The Journal notes that the emails don't rule out involvement
> by high-level officials but they also don't contain any evidence
> that the targeting scheme was developed by anyone other than
> low-level staffers.
>
> ^^ Links included:
> http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/internal-emails-indicate-irs-targeting-designed-by-low
>
The more I read about how this all started, the more rational the
> The Journal notes that the emails don't rule out involvement
> by high-level officials but they also don't contain any evidence
> that the targeting scheme was developed by anyone other than
> low-level staffers.
>
> ^^ Links included:
> http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/internal-emails-indicate-irs-targeting-designed-by-low
>
original criteria-development process seems. I've seen reports that the
number of 501(c)(4) tax-exemption requests nearly tripled in the wake of
Citizens' United, which would seem to me to indicate some need to
prioritize and organize the work of carefully scrutinizing the new
requests to a reasonable standard of care.
That's not to say that I think there is no *there* there in this
investigation. It is to say that there doesn't seem to have been some
nefarious, high-level plan to attack right-wingers from the get-go.
John Manning
May 23, 2013, 3:10:13 PM5/23/13
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A Really Really Large Number
May 23, 2013, 3:11:14 PM5/23/13
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On May 23, 2:49 pm, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The more I read about how this all started, the more rational the
> original criteria-development process seems.
no time for chit chat your brainless oaf.
> The more I read about how this all started, the more rational the
> original criteria-development process seems.
Tom McDonald
May 23, 2013, 3:17:52 PM5/23/13
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A Really Really Large Number
May 23, 2013, 3:18:46 PM5/23/13
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Tom McDonald
May 23, 2013, 3:19:46 PM5/23/13
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A Really Really Large Number
May 23, 2013, 3:20:13 PM5/23/13
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On May 23, 3:19 pm, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/23/2013 2:18 PM, A Really Really Large Number wrote:> On May 23, 3:17 pm, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 5/23/2013 2:11 PM, A Really Really Large Number wrote:> On May
> >> 23, 2:49 pm, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> The more I read about how this all started, the more rational
> >>>> the original criteria-development process seems.
>
> >>> no time for chit chat your brainless oaf.
>
> >> Well, ta-ta then, mate.
>
> > No, you just did it again you stupid asshole
>
> Hmm.
Die!
> On 5/23/2013 2:18 PM, A Really Really Large Number wrote:> On May 23, 3:17 pm, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 5/23/2013 2:11 PM, A Really Really Large Number wrote:> On May
> >> 23, 2:49 pm, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> The more I read about how this all started, the more rational
> >>>> the original criteria-development process seems.
>
> >>> no time for chit chat your brainless oaf.
>
> >> Well, ta-ta then, mate.
>
> > No, you just did it again you stupid asshole
>
> Hmm.
Tom McDonald
May 23, 2013, 3:20:51 PM5/23/13
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A Really Really Large Number
May 23, 2013, 3:21:33 PM5/23/13
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your turn will come you brainless retard
Tom McDonald
May 23, 2013, 3:23:00 PM5/23/13
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did to make your replies here seem reasonable?
A Really Really Large Number
May 23, 2013, 3:23:55 PM5/23/13
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Out from under that rock.
Now go crawl back under it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEEzbFxEbB8
Tom McDonald
May 23, 2013, 3:25:09 PM5/23/13
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A Really Really Large Number
May 23, 2013, 3:26:42 PM5/23/13
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You are nothing but a god damn LIAR!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLMF5GM0Kt8
Ben Kaufman
May 23, 2013, 4:24:15 PM5/23/13
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MarkA
May 23, 2013, 4:45:58 PM5/23/13
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 13:49:36 -0500, Tom McDonald wrote:
>
> That's not to say that I think there is no *there* there in this
> investigation. It is to say that there doesn't seem to have been some
> nefarious, high-level plan to attack right-wingers from the get-go.
Well, the GOP is certainly not an organization to let facts stand in the
>
> That's not to say that I think there is no *there* there in this
> investigation. It is to say that there doesn't seem to have been some
> nefarious, high-level plan to attack right-wingers from the get-go.
way of a good scandal. I mean, it's OBAMA, for goodness sake! There must
be SOMETHING he's doing wrong!
--
MarkA
Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
About eight o'clock
Tom McDonald
May 23, 2013, 4:58:52 PM5/23/13
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The Revd
May 23, 2013, 10:29:36 PM5/23/13
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 13:49:36 -0500, Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On 5/23/2013 1:25 PM, John Manning wrote:
>>
>>
>> The criteria were developed by
>> an IRS screening group in Cincinnati
>> "based on cases they were seeing,"
>> Cindy Thomas, a supervisor in the
>> Cincinnati office, wrote in a June 2011
>> email to an official in Washington.
>>
>> "When the screening group starts seeing
>> new type cases that have similar issues,
>> they meet and come up with criteria
>> to identify 'emerging issue' and elevate
>> information," she wrote.
>>
>>
>> -- Internal IRS emails analyzed by the Wall Street Journal
>> indicate -- albeit not conclusively -- that the agency's
>> targeting of conservative groups was designed by low-level
>> employees in the Cincinnati office.
>>
>> From the Wall Street Journal:
>>
>> House Oversight Committee staff on Wednesday released several
>> documents related to the matter�including the IRS emails and a 2012
>> statement by Ms. Lerner�that helped provide a clearer picture of
wrote:
>On 5/23/2013 1:25 PM, John Manning wrote:
>>
>>
>> The criteria were developed by
>> an IRS screening group in Cincinnati
>> "based on cases they were seeing,"
>> Cindy Thomas, a supervisor in the
>> Cincinnati office, wrote in a June 2011
>> email to an official in Washington.
>>
>> "When the screening group starts seeing
>> new type cases that have similar issues,
>> they meet and come up with criteria
>> to identify 'emerging issue' and elevate
>> information," she wrote.
>>
>>
>> -- Internal IRS emails analyzed by the Wall Street Journal
>> indicate -- albeit not conclusively -- that the agency's
>> targeting of conservative groups was designed by low-level
>> employees in the Cincinnati office.
>>
>> From the Wall Street Journal:
>>
>> House Oversight Committee staff on Wednesday released several
>> statement by Ms. Lerner�that helped provide a clearer picture of
>> what happened.
>>
>> The criteria were developed by an IRS screening group in Cincinnati
>> "based on cases they were seeing," Cindy Thomas, a supervisor in
>> the Cincinnati office, wrote in a June 2011 email to an official in
>> Washington.
>>
>> "When the screening group starts seeing new type cases that have
>> similar issues, they meet and come up with criteria to identify
>> 'emerging issue' and elevate information," she wrote.
>>
>> In another email from June 2011, a screening manager in Cincinnati,
>> John Shafer, outlined the criteria the group was using to select
>> applications for extra review. They included references in the case
>> file to "tea party," "patriots" or "9/12 Project"; issues such as
>> government spending, debt and taxes; advocacy or legislative
>> activity to "make America a better place to live"; and "statements
>> in the case file that are critical of�how the country is being run."
>>
>> The criteria were developed by an IRS screening group in Cincinnati
>> "based on cases they were seeing," Cindy Thomas, a supervisor in
>> the Cincinnati office, wrote in a June 2011 email to an official in
>> Washington.
>>
>> "When the screening group starts seeing new type cases that have
>> similar issues, they meet and come up with criteria to identify
>> 'emerging issue' and elevate information," she wrote.
>>
>> In another email from June 2011, a screening manager in Cincinnati,
>> John Shafer, outlined the criteria the group was using to select
>> applications for extra review. They included references in the case
>> file to "tea party," "patriots" or "9/12 Project"; issues such as
>> government spending, debt and taxes; advocacy or legislative
>> activity to "make America a better place to live"; and "statements
>>
>> The Journal notes that the emails don't rule out involvement
>> by high-level officials but they also don't contain any evidence
>> that the targeting scheme was developed by anyone other than
>> low-level staffers.
>>
>> ^^ Links included:
>> http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/internal-emails-indicate-irs-targeting-designed-by-low
>>
>The more I read about how this all started, the more rational the
>original criteria-development process seems. I've seen reports that the
>number of 501(c)(4) tax-exemption requests nearly tripled in the wake of
>Citizens' United, which would seem to me to indicate some need to
>prioritize and organize the work of carefully scrutinizing the new
>requests to a reasonable standard of care.
>
>That's not to say that I think there is no *there* there in this
>investigation. It is to say that there doesn't seem to have been some
>nefarious, high-level plan to attack right-wingers from the get-go.
That's what a niggerloving Democrat WOULD say.
>> The Journal notes that the emails don't rule out involvement
>> by high-level officials but they also don't contain any evidence
>> that the targeting scheme was developed by anyone other than
>> low-level staffers.
>>
>> ^^ Links included:
>> http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/internal-emails-indicate-irs-targeting-designed-by-low
>>
>The more I read about how this all started, the more rational the
>original criteria-development process seems. I've seen reports that the
>number of 501(c)(4) tax-exemption requests nearly tripled in the wake of
>Citizens' United, which would seem to me to indicate some need to
>prioritize and organize the work of carefully scrutinizing the new
>requests to a reasonable standard of care.
>
>That's not to say that I think there is no *there* there in this
>investigation. It is to say that there doesn't seem to have been some
>nefarious, high-level plan to attack right-wingers from the get-go.
The Revd
May 23, 2013, 10:30:36 PM5/23/13
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 16:45:58 -0400, MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
>On Thu, 23 May 2013 13:49:36 -0500, Tom McDonald wrote:
>
>>
>> That's not to say that I think there is no *there* there in this
>> investigation. It is to say that there doesn't seem to have been some
>> nefarious, high-level plan to attack right-wingers from the get-go.
>
>Well, the GOP is certainly not an organization to let facts stand in the
>way of a good scandal. I mean, it's OBAMA, for goodness sake! There must
>be SOMETHING he's doing wrong!
Of course there is. He's a halfbreed, for fuck's sake!
wrote:
>On Thu, 23 May 2013 13:49:36 -0500, Tom McDonald wrote:
>
>>
>> That's not to say that I think there is no *there* there in this
>> investigation. It is to say that there doesn't seem to have been some
>> nefarious, high-level plan to attack right-wingers from the get-go.
>
>Well, the GOP is certainly not an organization to let facts stand in the
>way of a good scandal. I mean, it's OBAMA, for goodness sake! There must
>be SOMETHING he's doing wrong!
Ken
May 23, 2013, 10:31:53 PM5/23/13
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The Peeler
May 24, 2013, 9:06:50 AM5/24/13
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On Fri, 24 May 2013 12:46:09 +0200, The Peeler
<finish...@themoronicRevd.invalid> wrote:
>On Thu, 23 May 2013 19:30:36 -0700, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
>sci and scj, FAKING his time zone again and IMPERSONATING his master, The
He's no, whiter than, YOU, you Grik piece of skata! <GB>
<finish...@themoronicRevd.invalid> wrote:
>On Thu, 23 May 2013 19:30:36 -0700, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
>sci and scj, FAKING his time zone again and IMPERSONATING his master, The
>Peeler, wrote:
>
>>>Well, the GOP is certainly not an organization to let facts stand in the
>>>way of a good scandal. I mean, it's OBAMA, for goodness sake! There must
>>>be SOMETHING he's doing wrong!
>>
>> Of course there is. He's a halfbreed, for fuck's sake!
>
>He is certainly no full-blown idiot like you, though, The Rectum! <BG>
>
>>>Well, the GOP is certainly not an organization to let facts stand in the
>>>way of a good scandal. I mean, it's OBAMA, for goodness sake! There must
>>>be SOMETHING he's doing wrong!
>>
>> Of course there is. He's a halfbreed, for fuck's sake!
>
He's no, whiter than, YOU, you Grik piece of skata! <GB>
The Peeler
May 24, 2013, 9:07:38 AM5/24/13
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On Fri, 24 May 2013 12:46:46 +0200, The Peeler
<finish...@themoronicRevd.invalid> wrote:
>On Thu, 23 May 2013 19:29:36 -0700, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
>sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, FAKING his time zone again,
>farted:
><G>
It is innit [sic]! LOL2
<finish...@themoronicRevd.invalid> wrote:
>On Thu, 23 May 2013 19:29:36 -0700, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
>sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, FAKING his time zone again,
>farted:
>
>
>>>requests to a reasonable standard of care.
>>>
>>>That's not to say that I think there is no *there* there in this
>>>investigation. It is to say that there doesn't seem to have been some
>>>nefarious, high-level plan to attack right-wingers from the get-go.
>>
>> That's what a niggerloving Democrat WOULD say.
>
>That's how a retarded idiot and psycho like ME would "reply", idiotic psycho that I am!
>
>>>requests to a reasonable standard of care.
>>>
>>>That's not to say that I think there is no *there* there in this
>>>investigation. It is to say that there doesn't seem to have been some
>>>nefarious, high-level plan to attack right-wingers from the get-go.
>>
>> That's what a niggerloving Democrat WOULD say.
>
><G>
It is innit [sic]! LOL2
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