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666

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Sep 26, 2006, 12:44:05 PM9/26/06
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Sept. 26, 2006, 8:10AM
Teacher reprimanded after student sees nude art on museum trip
Associated Press

FRISCO - School board members have voted to not renew the contract
of a veteran art teacher who was reprimanded after one of her
fifth-grade students saw a nude sculpture during a school trip to a
museum.

Sydney McGee has been on paid administrative leave from Fisher
Elementary School since Friday, said her attorney Rogge Dunn.

McGee's contract runs through the end of the school year and it was
unclear whether she would remain on leave until then. Her attorney said
he would wait for written confirmation and clarification from the
school district to decide how to proceed.

He said McGee, a 28-year veteran teacher, was upset about the Monday
decision.

"If they had good reason to fire her, they would have, but they don't,"
Dunn said. "It's mind-boggling."

Board members declined to take questions after their closed meeting and
a message left with the Frisco Independent School District wasn't
immediately returned.

McGee has said her troubles started after taking 89 students on a
school field trip to the Dallas Museum of Art in April.

The principal at Fisher elementary, Nancy Lawson, later admonished
McGee about the trip, telling her a parent complained about a student
seeing nude art, said Dunn, a Dallas labor lawyer.

School officials didn't reveal which parent made the complaint.

McGee also said it was the principal who urged her to take the students
to the museum, Dunn said.

District officials have said the museum field trip didn't spark
reprimands of the teacher. They have repeatedly pointed to other
performance issues.

The district rejected McGee's request in August to transfer to another
Frisco school. They said they didn't want to give her a chance to move
elsewhere without addressing other issues, including lesson-plan
preparation.

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Bill M

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Sep 26, 2006, 3:52:51 PM9/26/06
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This can only be explained by religious idiocy.

What on earth can be harmful for a ten year old to see some nude art? What
is the harm in 10 year olds learning about the reality and beauty of the
human body?

Do they also want to remove all mirrors? Or claim there is no physical
difference between males and females?

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greg...@yahoo.ca

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Sep 26, 2006, 3:58:57 PM9/26/06
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Yet the story says the teacher was repeatedly reprimanded for other
issues. The field trip story is just used to get your sympathy and
support.

Conspiracy of Doves

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Sep 26, 2006, 4:11:34 PM9/26/06
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With parents that strict and freaked out about the human body, you know
this kid has already seen internet porn.

jcon

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Sep 26, 2006, 5:33:30 PM9/26/06
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Based on the information in the article, and not knowing anything
about the school district in question, I give EXACTLY EQUAL
probability to each of the following scenarios:
- Some fundie parents with strong ties to the school board
were offended that Junior saw a scupted boob on a field trip
have made it their life's work to see the teacher sacked.
(They are of course clueless to the fact that Junior spends
all his free time surfing the internet for porn anyway)
- This teacher is being let go because of poor performance and
has pulled the field trip thing out of her ass because she smelled
a lawsuit. She's saavy enough to know that her claim will
be believed without question by the vast majority of people
who read it, and she will immediately have an army of supporters.
She might have opted for sexual harrassment instead, but
the principal is female, so her potential supporters might have
been confused which side to take.

Interestingly enough, I found this blog which contains a fight between
two teachers who both *claim* to be close to the situation
http://texased.wordpress.com/2006/08/25/art-museums-can-be-hazardous-to-your-job/
and even they can't agree which scenario is true.

Probably safest for the rest of us to reserve our opinions so as
not to look to foolish when all the facts come out.

-jc

John Starrett

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Sep 26, 2006, 5:44:18 PM9/26/06
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greg...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> Yet the story says the teacher was repeatedly reprimanded for other
> issues. The field trip story is just used to get your sympathy and
> support.

Frequently when administrators are under pressure to fire someone, they
will exaggerate other "performance" issues. This could be the case here,
too. It may well be that they made up the other reprimands. We will see.

JS

Bo Raxo

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Sep 26, 2006, 6:20:37 PM9/26/06
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666 wrote:
> Sept. 26, 2006, 8:10AM
> Teacher reprimanded after student sees nude art on museum trip
> Associated Press
>
> FRISCO - School board members have voted to not renew the contract
> of a veteran art teacher who was reprimanded after one of her
> fifth-grade students saw a nude sculpture during a school trip to a
> museum.
>

I'm shocked: there really is a town named Frisco?

All this time, I thought it was just an oft-rejected nickname for my
hometown. That, and in centuries past sailor's slang for a perfect bay
(easy in, easy out, good weather protection).


Bo Raxo

Sanders Kaufman

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Sep 26, 2006, 11:54:20 PM9/26/06
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Conspiracy of Doves wrote:

> With parents that strict and freaked out about the human body, you know
> this kid has already seen internet porn.

Or has starred in it.
Just this week, *another* pedophilia lawsuit was filed against the
Dallas Catholics - just a little south of Frisco where this incident
happened.

They're all for kids seeing naked bodies - they're just not allowed to
*learn* about naked bodies.

Sanders Kaufman

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Sep 26, 2006, 11:54:20 PM9/26/06
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John Starrett wrote:
>
> Frequently when administrators are under pressure to fire someone, they
> will exaggerate other "performance" issues. This could be the case here,
> too. It may well be that they made up the other reprimands. We will see.

That is *exactly* the case here.
The teacher in question has been on the job for almost 30 years, and has
won award after award after award. Her performance reviews have been
equally stellar.

--
The US can never be safe from terrorists until we eliminate the
NeoChristian insurgents.

Sanders Kaufman

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Sep 26, 2006, 11:54:20 PM9/26/06
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Bill M wrote:
> This can only be explained by religious idiocy.
>
> What on earth can be harmful for a ten year old to see some nude art?

It's not the *kids* they are trying to protect.
It's their wallets.

As long as people continue to become more educated, they become less
likely to empty their pocketbooks into tent preachers' coffers.

Sanders Kaufman

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Sep 26, 2006, 11:54:21 PM9/26/06
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Bo Raxo wrote:
>
> All this time, I thought it was just an oft-rejected nickname for my
> hometown. That, and in centuries past sailor's slang for a perfect bay
> (easy in, easy out, good weather protection).

It's more like a colony than a city.
It's a little place, just north of Dallas.
Since Dallas is full of blacks, Mexicans, and infidels, religious freaks
and other bigots have established themselves there.
It's one of those towns where you get pulled over for DWB - driving
while brown.

And they're filthy rich!

The Good News is that, during the building of this city, they tried to
cut corners everywhere they could.
So like, in this one neighborhood, they keep uncovering unexploded
ordnance from it being a former weapons test area.

The contractors they hired did some *seriously* shoddy work - so there
are a bunch of zillion-dollar homes that keep failing inspection.
And since the city council is made up of failed seminary students,
they're as corrupt as any tent preacher could be. So the shoddy work is
going without repair.

The good news is that there are no *jobs* in Frisco... unless you want
to work at a grocery store or gas station. That means that, regardless
of how white-bread they like their neighborhoods, they still have to
venture into the great unwashed to feed and clothe themselves.

There's more good news, too. The zillion dollar houses in Frisco were
part of the housing bubble that just burst. But, in order to keep tax
revenues up, they're not appraising the houses at their true, lower
value. At the same time, NeoChristians and Border Bigots are having a
hard time finding work - so they're having to take second and third
mortgages out.

Baldin...@msn.com

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Sep 26, 2006, 11:57:42 PM9/26/06
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Bo Raxo wrote:
> 666 wrote:
> > Sept. 26, 2006, 8:10AM
> > Teacher reprimanded after student sees nude art on museum trip
> > Associated Press
> >
> > FRISCO - School board members have voted to not renew the contract
> > of a veteran art teacher who was reprimanded after one of her
> > fifth-grade students saw a nude sculpture during a school trip to a
> > museum.
> >
>
> I'm shocked: there really is a town named Frisco?

Frisco is a town in the Colorado mountains. I don't know if this is it.

Pramer

Roedy Green

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Sep 27, 2006, 4:51:30 AM9/27/06
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On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:52:51 -0400, "Bill M" <wm...@bellsouth.net>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :

>
>What on earth can be harmful for a ten year old to see some nude art? What
>is the harm in 10 year olds learning about the reality and beauty of the
>human body?

But on TV, any toddler can see prostitution, women rubbing their
crotches on poles, murder, rape, dismemberings, Janet Jackson's
amazing bouncing globes, sexual harassment, pistol whipping, simulated
intercourse, pump dancing.

It is funny that a chaste marble statue offends the Republican mind,
but all that is perfectly ok even for those too young to speak.

--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green, http://mindprod.com
See links to the Lebanon photos that Google censored at
http://mindprod.com/politics/israel.html

Hunter

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Sep 27, 2006, 7:41:07 AM9/27/06
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I heard about this. This is one of the most idiotic things I have ever
heard this side of Zero Tolerance. She took them to an art museum, they
are acting like she took them to the the equivalent to a place on 42nd
street between Broadway and eight avenue in New York circa 1982. What
did the school board that authorized the trip expected to be in an art
museum? They ignore 28 years of good work over nothing! People can be
such idiots!

--->Hunter

Hunter

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Sep 27, 2006, 7:46:36 AM9/27/06
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greg...@yahoo.ca wrote:

> Bill M wrote:

> Yet the story says the teacher was repeatedly reprimanded for other
> issues. The field trip story is just used to get your sympathy and
> support.

----
She was there 28 years. What are these other "issues?" Sounds like we
were supposed to get our imaginations going over something. Read
between the lines in the worst way. If there was anything important to
be reprimanded about over that time worth being fired over they would
had. These "other issues" excuse is just to justify their stupidity.

----->Hunter

jcon

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Sep 27, 2006, 8:29:04 AM9/27/06
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Bo Raxo wrote:
> 666 wrote:
> > Sept. 26, 2006, 8:10AM
> > Teacher reprimanded after student sees nude art on museum trip
> > Associated Press
> >
> > FRISCO - School board members have voted to not renew the contract
> > of a veteran art teacher who was reprimanded after one of her
> > fifth-grade students saw a nude sculpture during a school trip to a
> > museum.
> >
>
> I'm shocked: there really is a town named Frisco?
>
> All this time, I thought it was just an oft-rejected nickname for my
> hometown.

No, there they would have complained if the students *didn't*
see nudity on the field trip :)

-jc

AusWendy

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Sep 27, 2006, 9:15:59 AM9/27/06
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"666" <son...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1159289045.3...@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> Sept. 26, 2006, 8:10AM
> Teacher reprimanded after student sees nude art on museum trip
> Associated Press
>
> FRISCO - School board members have voted to not renew the contract
> of a veteran art teacher who was reprimanded after one of her
> fifth-grade students saw a nude sculpture during a school trip to a
> museum.

Next thing is that they will be ripping pages out of art books that contain
pictures of nude paintings or sculptures etc.

Aus Wendy


Lucifer

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Sep 27, 2006, 12:33:45 PM9/27/06
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More likely they'll burn them

"Holy Soldiers, Nazi Looks!"

Lucifer, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and General
Purpose Igor
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"

Robibnikoff

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"Lucifer" <wyrd...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Pardon me, but you are sounding sexier by the minute!

Deary me, I'll leave quietly ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557


Lucifer

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Sep 27, 2006, 7:10:35 PM9/27/06
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Hehehehehehe....

Tim McGaughy

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Sep 27, 2006, 8:25:48 PM9/27/06
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Kinda a long drive to get to an art museum in Dallas, don't you think?

bob

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Sep 27, 2006, 8:50:13 PM9/27/06
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On 26 Sep 2006 09:44:05 -0700, "666" <son...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Sept. 26, 2006, 8:10AM
>Teacher reprimanded after student sees nude art on museum trip
>Associated Press
>

Welcome to Jesus Land!!

Estrella

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Sep 27, 2006, 9:21:11 PM9/27/06
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The parent that complained knew that they signed a permission slip for
their child to go to a museum. A museum means art in the form of
freedom of expression. This parent should never have given their child
permission to go to a museum. Everyone knows that at a museum, nudes
may be there. It was a museum, not a zoo.
Or the parent should have went on the trip. Then, if there was
anything objectionable, the parent could hold a blind fold on their
kids eyes.

FragileWarrior

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Sep 28, 2006, 7:42:32 AM9/28/06
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"Estrella" <estrella...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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I think the teachers and art museum staff should sign permission slips,
take a field trip to the parent's house and kick the living shit out of
him/her. Whatta asshole.

Christopher A. Lee

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Sep 28, 2006, 8:02:06 AM9/28/06
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On 27 Sep 2006 18:21:11 -0700, "Estrella" <estrella...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>The parent that complained knew that they signed a permission slip for
>their child to go to a museum. A museum means art in the form of
>freedom of expression. This parent should never have given their child
>permission to go to a museum. Everyone knows that at a museum, nudes
>may be there. It was a museum, not a zoo.

Do they prevent their kids going to the zoo? After all they know that
monkeys copulate in their cages.

Hollis Brown

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Sep 28, 2006, 11:12:12 AM9/28/06
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A zoo? That is potentially far worse than an art museum. What if
Junior were to see humping wombats, or a cheetah licking its nether
regions? I doubt even Jesus could forgive a child for something that
serious.

HB

FragileWarrior

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Sep 28, 2006, 12:02:43 PM9/28/06
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"Hollis Brown" <AT_Ta...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1159456332.6...@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

Oh, I dunno. Have you witnessed this yet? http://getbehindjesus.net/

Furious George

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Sep 28, 2006, 12:23:30 PM9/28/06
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> On 27 Sep 2006 18:21:11 -0700, "Estrella" <estrella...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >The parent that complained knew that they signed a permission slip for
> >their child to go to a museum. A museum means art in the form of
> >freedom of expression. This parent should never have given their child
> >permission to go to a museum. Everyone knows that at a museum, nudes
> >may be there. It was a museum, not a zoo.
>
> Do they prevent their kids going to the zoo? After all they know that
> monkeys copulate in their cages.

Do they prevent their kids from going to the White House? After all
they know what dumbya does with Jeff Gannon.

Sanders Kaufman

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Sep 28, 2006, 12:43:10 PM9/28/06
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Estrella wrote:
> The parent that complained knew that they signed a permission slip for
> their child to go to a museum. A museum means art in the form of
> freedom of expression. This parent should never have given their child
> permission to go to a museum. Everyone knows that at a museum, nudes
> may be there. It was a museum, not a zoo.

That goes right to the heart of the problem.
Militant NeoChristians are trying to turn our schools into Madrassas.
They get mad when students are taught facts, because those facts always
seem to contradict their sick, twisted faith.

Beyond that, they expect the nanny state to do their parenting jobs for
them.

Robibnikoff

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Sep 28, 2006, 2:10:24 PM9/28/06
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"Lucifer" <wyrd...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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It's the menopause talking, I swear it! ;)

Robibnikoff

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"FragileWarrior" <FragileWarrior@f'loonsmustdie.com> wrote in message
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<SNORT!> Dang, you almost owed me a keyboard ;)

Seriously though, my mother is an artist and I've been doing to art museums
and seeing nudes, etc., since I was about 5. What's the big freakin' deal?
Sheesh! Finding one's father's Playboys is MUCH more traumatizing than
seeing the Venus de Milo ;)

Dan S

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Sep 28, 2006, 9:38:08 PM9/28/06
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It's supposed to be fairly hard to fire a teacher with all kinds of tenure.
Maybe not in Frisco, TX.
Maybe the admin wanted to get rid of a teacher atthe top end of the salary
scale.
The trip was approved.. the permission slips were signed..
I smell a lawsuit!
Dan

Sanders Kaufman

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Sep 28, 2006, 10:41:35 PM9/28/06
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Dan S wrote:
> It's supposed to be fairly hard to fire a teacher with all kinds of tenure.
> Maybe not in Frisco, TX.

Welcome to the Bible Belt.
Texas is under siege by religious extremists.
The Texas Schoolbook system is a fine example.

Here in Texas, before a textbook can go out to the schools, a state
board of religious leaders has to approve the content and form.


Gary Oblock

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Sep 30, 2006, 12:11:56 AM9/30/06
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666 wrote:

> Sept. 26, 2006, 8:10AM

> Teacher reprimanded after student sees nude art on museum trip

> Associated Press
>
> FRISCO - School board members have voted to not renew the contract
> of a veteran art teacher who was reprimanded after one of her
> fifth-grade students saw a nude sculpture during a school trip to a
> museum.
>

:
:
:
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Yet another good reason to avoid Texas like the plague. I once lived
in the Bible belt (Kansas) and I now won't even change planes there. ;-)

-- Gary

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http://www.bronzedreams.com

Boraxo

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Sep 30, 2006, 3:24:46 AM9/30/06
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Wow, you paint quite a vivid picture. And a pretty funny one - thanks!

Sanders Kaufman

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Sep 30, 2006, 3:47:22 AM9/30/06
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Boraxo wrote:
>>
>>There's more good news, too. The zillion dollar houses in Frisco were
>>part of the housing bubble that just burst. But, in order to keep tax
>>revenues up, they're not appraising the houses at their true, lower
>>value. At the same time, NeoChristians and Border Bigots are having a
>>hard time finding work - so they're having to take second and third
>>mortgages out.
>
>
> Wow, you paint quite a vivid picture. And a pretty funny one - thanks!

Da nada.
With the material provided, it's as easy as a Catholic School Girl.

stoney

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Oct 1, 2006, 1:12:00 PM10/1/06
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On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 03:54:20 GMT, Sanders Kaufman <bu...@kaufman.net>
wrote in alt.atheism

>John Starrett wrote:
>>
>> Frequently when administrators are under pressure to fire someone, they
>> will exaggerate other "performance" issues. This could be the case here,
>> too. It may well be that they made up the other reprimands. We will see.
>
>That is *exactly* the case here.
>The teacher in question has been on the job for almost 30 years, and has
>won award after award after award. Her performance reviews have been
>equally stellar.

I hope she sues the district for millions.


--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.

stoney

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Oct 1, 2006, 1:15:46 PM10/1/06
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On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:10:24 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witc...@broomstick.com> wrote in alt.atheism

He's also 17, or so..... :D

stoney

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Oct 1, 2006, 1:30:23 PM10/1/06
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On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:02:43 +0000 (UTC), FragileWarrior
<FragileWarrior@f'loonsmustdie.com> wrote in alt.atheism

LOL!

stoney

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Oct 1, 2006, 1:31:59 PM10/1/06
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On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 02:41:35 GMT, Sanders Kaufman <bu...@kaufman.net>
wrote in alt.atheism

>Dan S wrote:

Ignorance ensuring ignorance remains the same.

Lucifer

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Oct 1, 2006, 1:54:11 PM10/1/06
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19 actually.

Lucifer

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Oct 1, 2006, 6:54:17 PM10/1/06
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More to the point, I thought Robyn was married...

stoney

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Oct 2, 2006, 2:39:16 PM10/2/06
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On 1 Oct 2006 15:54:17 -0700, "Lucifer" <wyrd...@hotmail.com> wrote in
alt.atheism

She is.

stoney

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Oct 2, 2006, 2:39:40 PM10/2/06
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On 1 Oct 2006 10:54:11 -0700, "Lucifer" <wyrd...@hotmail.com> wrote in
alt.atheism

>

That comes under 'or so'.... ;)

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