Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

For Those Too Weak To Battle Temptation.

8 views
Skip to first unread message

vivapa...@aol.com

unread,
Apr 27, 2013, 5:15:04 PM4/27/13
to
James 1: 12-18.

Blessed is the man who perseveres in temptation, for when he has been proved he will receive the crown of life that he promised to those who love him. No one experiencing temptation should say, "I am being tempted by God"; for God is not subject to temptation to evil, and he himself tempts no one. Rather, each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. Then desire conceives and brings forth sin, and when sin reaches maturity it gives birth to death. Do not be deceived, my beloved brothers: all good giving and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no alteration or shadow caused by change. He willed to give us birth by the word of truth that we may be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.
Message has been deleted

dolf

unread,
Apr 27, 2013, 5:36:43 PM4/27/13
to
On 28/04/13 7:32 AM, Brother Love wrote:
> Thank you, Brother Viva, for quoting one of my favorite Scriptures.
> Oh, if only the homosexuals and athiests would take this to heart.
>
> Always remember: Jesus love's you and so do I! Every single one of
> you!
>


Nous: #11
Time: 02:25 hrs
Date: 2013.4.27
Torah: #30 #1 #6 %81 = #37
Dao: Value and Function of Non-Existence
Tetra: #33 - Closeness
I-Ching: H8 - Seeking Unity
DNA: vBlack: #13 vYellow: #57 vCyan: #49 vCoral: #54
Latin: Oriens {Praised & Exalted God} Alt: Harachel {The Crushing of God} {
1. PROTECTS AGAINST LIGHTNING & SERVES TO OBTAIN VICTORY
2. FAME
3. THE LEARNED WHO HAVE BECOME FAMOUS
4. Rombomare
}
Shem {Exhalted Name, Name, renown}

- http://www.dolfboek.com/grapple.html?zen:2,row:1,col:2

Male Idea #220

#6, #40, #40, #70, #40, #4, #20
וממעמדכ ma`amad (H4612): 1) attendance, office, function, service;
1a) station, office, post; 1b) office, function; 1c) service;

22:17 "Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity,
and will surely cover thee." [Isaiah 22:17]
22:18 "He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a ball into a
large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory
shall be the shame of thy lord's house." [Isaiah 22:18]
22:19 "And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state
{ma`amad-attendance [H4612]: #6, #40, #40, #70, #40, #4, #20 = #220}
shall he pull thee down." [Isaiah 22:19]
22:20 "And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will call my
servant Eliakim {resurrection of God} the son of Hilkiah {God is my
portion}:" [Isaiah 22:20]
22:21 "And I will clothe him with thy robe, and strengthen him with
thy girdle, and I will commit thy government into his hand: and he shall
be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and to the house of Judah."
[Isaiah 22:21]
22:22 "And the key of the house of David {well-beloved, dear} will I
lay upon his shoulder; so he shall open, and none shall shut; and he
shall shut, and none shall open." [Isaiah 22:22]
22:23 "And I will fasten him as a nail in a sure place; and he shall
be for a glorious throne to his father's house." [Isaiah 22:23]

Female Idea #274

#4, #70, #20, #10, #40, #10, #70, #50
δοκιμιον dokimion (G1383): 1) the proving; 2) that by which something
is tried or proved, a test;

"That the trial {dokimion-trying [G1383]: #4, #70, #20, #10, #40, #10,
#70, #50 = #274} of your faith, being much more precious than of gold
that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise
and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:" [1Peter 1:7]

On 24/04/13 12:15 PM, HD wrote:
>
> "dolf" <dolf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:jI-dnTTdest1turM...@westnet.com.au...
>> On 24/04/13 9:28 AM, HD wrote:
>>>
>>> "Dechucka" <Dechu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:p7SdnRGQBKSBmOrM...@westnet.com.au...
>>>>
>>>> "regn" <regn.p...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:6e51c0b8-10fa-4ef6...@googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> [quote stt]
>>>>>
>>>>> FRANCE legalised gay marriage after a wrenching national
>>>>> debate and protests that flooded the streets of Paris.
>>>>>
>>>>> Legions of officers and water cannon stood ready near
>>>>> France's National Assembly ahead of the final vote, bracing
>>>>> for possible violence on an issue that galvanised the
>>>>> country's faltering conservative movement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Read more:
>>>>> http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/france-legalises-gay-
>>>>>
>>>>>
marriage-after-intense-national-debate/story-fnet09p2-1226628266250#ixzz2RJXeZoP7
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
[quote fin]
>>>>>
>>>>> It is homophile BS that Homosexuality and same sex marriage
>>>>> is accepted. the vote was about 3-2
>>>>
>>>> on what basis do you make that comment? A majority of the
>>>> French support gay marriage according to the polls and in Aus
>>>> it is about 2/3s support
>>>
>>> If it ever becomes legal in Australia, I want an Ecclesiastical
>>> marriage only, to be recognized by the state as a genuine
>>> marriage without being registered in a polluted civil registry.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> she that is married cares for the things of the world
>>
>> Nous: #31 Time: 02:00 hrs Date: 2013.4.21 Torah: #10
>> #200 #400 %81 = #43 Dao: Military Stratagem, Quelling War
>> Tetra: #51 - Constancy I-Ching: H32 - Endurance DNA: vBlack:
>> #31 vYellow: #1 vCyan: #50 vCoral: #12 Latin: Spes {God
>> who punishes the wicked} Alt: Saitel {Roaming of God} { 1.
>> PROTECTS AGAINST UNJUST ATTACKS, CONFOUNDING ONE'S ENEMIES 2.
>> PROPAGATES LIGHT, CIVILISATION & LIBERTY 3. PEACE, JUSTICE,
>> SCIENCES & THE ARTS 4. Hepe Solar Eclipse 4 December 2002 + 28
>> years} Amminadab {My people is liberal}
>>
>> - http://www.dolfboek.com/grapple.html?zen:1,row:1,col:9
>>
>> Male Idea #337
>>
>> #1, #80, #5, #80, #50, #10, #60, #1, #50 απεπνιξαν apopnigo
>> (G638): 1) to choke; 1a) to suffocate with water, drown
>>
>> "And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprang up with it, and
>> choked {apopnigo-choke [G638]: #1, #80, #5, #80, #50, #10, #60,
>> #1, #50 = #337} it." [Luke 8:7]
>>
>>
>> Female Idea #325
>>
>> #1, #3, #1, #40, #70, #10, #200 αγαμοισ agamos (G22): 1)
>> unmarried, unwedded, single;
>>
>> "I say therefore to the unmarried {agamos-unmarried [G22]: #1, #3,
>> #1, #40, #70, #10, #200 = #325} and widows, It is good for them if
>> they abide even as I." [1Corinthians 7:8]
>>
>> "There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The
>> unmarried {agamos-unmarried [G22]: #1, #3, #1, #40, #70, #10, #200
>> = #325} woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be
>> holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth
>> for the things of the world, how she may please her husband."
>> [1Corinthians 7:34]
>
> How she may please her husband does not mean please her female
> pretend husband.
>
>
Nous: #36
Time:
Date: 2013.4.25
Torah:
Dao: Natural Reversals, 'Secret' Explanation
Tetra: #12 - Youthfulness
I-Ching: H4 - Youthful Inexperience
DNA: vBlack: #48 vYellow: #73 vCyan: #21 vCoral: #15

#260 CE

- http://www.dolfboek.com/grapple.html?zen:5,row:1,col:9

Male Idea #309

#2, #300, #6, #1
בשוא sow' (H7721): 1) (Qal) rising (infinitive);

"Thou rulest the raging of the sea: when the waves thereof arise
{sow'-arise [H7721]: #2, #300, #6, #1 = #309}, thou stillest them."
[Psalm 89:9]

Female Idea #424

#80, #1, #100, #5, #30, #1, #2, #5, #200
παρελαβεσ paralambano (G3880): 1) to take to, to take with one's
self, to join to one's self; 1a) an associate, a companion; 1b) metaph.;
1b1) to accept or acknowledge one to be such as he professes to be; 1b2)
not to reject, not to withhold obedience; 2) to receive something
transmitted; 2a) an office to be discharged; 2b) to receive with the
mind; 2b1) by oral transmission: of the authors from whom the tradition
proceeds; 2b2) by the narrating to others, by instruction of teachers
(used of disciples);


1:10 "For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for
if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ." [Galatians
1:10]
1:11 "But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of
me is not after man." [Galatians 1:11]
1:12 "For I neither received {paralambano-take [G3880]: #80, #1, #100,
#5, #30, #1, #2, #5, #200 = #424} it of man, neither was I taught it,
but by the revelation of Jesus Christ." [Galatians 1:12]

dolf

unread,
Apr 27, 2013, 5:48:20 PM4/27/13
to
On 28/04/13 7:32 AM, Brother Love wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 14:15:04 -0700 (PDT), "vivapa...@aol.com"
> <vivapa...@aol.com> wrote:
>
- hide quoted text -

Josef Balluch

unread,
Apr 27, 2013, 8:47:19 PM4/27/13
to
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 14:15:04 -0700 (PDT), vivapa...@aol.com wrote:


> James 1: 12-18.


The Bible vs the Padre


> No one experiencing temptation should say, "I am being
> tempted by God"; for God is not subject to temptation to evil, and he
> himself tempts no one.


The great temptations which thine eyes saw, and the signs, and the wonders,
and the mighty hand, and the stretched out arm, whereby the Lord thy God
brought thee out: so shall the Lord thy God do unto all the people of whom
thou art afraid.

-- Deuteronomy 7:19


And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil

-- Matthew 6:13


And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, and
said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am.

-- Genesis 22:1



> Rather, each person is tempted when he is lured
> and enticed by his own desire.


Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of
the devil.

-- Matthew 4:1


Regards,

Josef


I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because
I notice it always coincides with their own desires.

-- Susan B. Anthony


vivapa...@aol.com

unread,
Apr 28, 2013, 5:24:22 PM4/28/13
to
Try using a divider between the Old and New Testaments. You'll be a wiser man for it. Just like little Susan B.

vivapa...@aol.com

unread,
Apr 28, 2013, 5:33:50 PM4/28/13
to
On Saturday, April 27, 2013 2:32:46 PM UTC-7, Brother Love wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 14:15:04 -0700 (PDT), "vivapa...@aol.com"
>
> <vivapa...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >James 1: 12-18.
>
> >
>
> >Blessed is the man who perseveres in temptation, for when he has been proved he will receive the crown of life that he promised to those who love him. No one experiencing temptation should say, "I am being tempted by God"; for God is not subject to temptation to evil, and he himself tempts no one. Rather, each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. Then desire conceives and brings forth sin, and when sin reaches maturity it gives birth to death. Do not be deceived, my beloved brothers: all good giving and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no alteration or shadow caused by change. He willed to give us birth by the word of truth that we may be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.
>
>
>
> Thank you, Brother Viva, for quoting one of my favorite Scriptures.
>
> Oh, if only the homosexuals and athiests would take this to heart.
>
>
>
> Always remember:
>
> Jesus love's you and so do I!
>
> Every single one of you!

Well, you know, God has a veil over the eyes of some people. With that veil, in all probability redemption is not theirs. We don't know the criteria God uses in whom he chooses to save, but we can always pray for them. Pray that the veil be removed from their eyes.

While on the cross, why was the thief on the right saved and the one on the left having the veil remain? It appears he never saw the light, but the thief on the right did. Perhaps this was done to complete the lesson.

King David fell into sin. A chosen one! Falling into sin! But he repented.

King Solomon, born in favor with God, but lost out in the end. No repentance? Why not? Or was he saved at the last moment?

Pharaoh was made obstinate so God could show the power of his wrath. No one interceded for Pharaoh but Moses did for the children of Israel.

Nice talking to you, Brother. Together maybe we can make alt.atheism obsolete.

Josef Balluch

unread,
Apr 28, 2013, 6:01:38 PM4/28/13
to
On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:24:22 -0700 (PDT), vivapa...@aol.com wrote:


> Try using a divider between the Old and New Testaments. You'll be a
> wiser man for it. Just like little Susan B.


The Bible vs The Padre

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come
to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth
pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be
fulfilled.

-- Matthew 5:17,18


And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I
was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in
the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

-- Luke 24:44


Regards,

Josef


The more uncivilized the man, the surer he is that he knows precisely what
is right and what is wrong.

-- H.L.Mencken


Josef Balluch

unread,
Apr 28, 2013, 8:48:24 PM4/28/13
to
On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:24:22 -0700 (PDT), vivapa...@aol.com wrote:


> Try using a divider between the Old and New Testaments.


The Bible vs The Padre

Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the
word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

But the word of the Lord endureth for ever.

-- 1 Peter 1:23,25


And now, O Lord God, the word that thou hast spoken concerning thy servant,
and concerning his house, establish it for ever, and do as thou hast said.

-- 2 Samuel 7:25


He hath remembered his covenant for ever, the word which he commanded to a
thousand generations.

-- Psalm 105:8


For ever, O Lord, thy word is settled in heaven.
Thy faithfulness is unto all generations: thou hast established the earth,
and it abideth.

-- Psalm 119:89,90


Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous
judgments endureth for ever.

-- Psalm 119:160


Attempting to deny or alter the eternal Word is blasphemous. You're gonna
burn in hell, padre. But you knew that already.


Regards,

Josef


That which is opposed to Scripture is not what is in Scripture but what he
has placed there himself, believing that this is what Scripture meant.

-- Augustine

Jeanne Douglas

unread,
Apr 29, 2013, 1:35:36 AM4/29/13
to
In article <8dcd5b84-9d18-40f0...@googlegroups.com>,
How would you do that?

--

JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

Dakota

unread,
Apr 29, 2013, 3:22:01 AM4/29/13
to
Your vile god picks and chooses who it will torture for eternity
without giving them a chance? Why would you worship such a god?
>
>> While on the cross, why was the thief on the right saved and the one on the
>> left having the veil remain? It appears he never saw the light, but the
>> thief on the right did. Perhaps this was done to complete the lesson.
>
Depending on which of the four storybooks you read, the thieves both
mocked Jesus, only one mocked him while the other defended him, or the
thieves were mentioned but there's nothing about any interaction with
Jesus. The gospel authors don't even agree on what your Jesus's last
words were. One might suspect they attended different crucifixions but
it's much more reasonable to assume the books were written decades
after the event by people who weren't yet born at the time of the
alleged crucifixion.
>
>> King David fell into sin. A chosen one! Falling into sin! But he repented.
>>
>> King Solomon, born in favor with God, but lost out in the end. No
>> repentance? Why not? Or was he saved at the last moment?
>>
>> Pharaoh was made obstinate so God could show the power of his wrath. No one
>> interceded for Pharaoh but Moses did for the children of Israel.
>
Your god didn't make Pharaoh obstinate. According to the fairy tale,
your vile god took away the Pharaoh's free will. Since Pharaoh had no
choice in the matter, all the plagues and the murders of children are
entirely the work of the mass murdering god you worship.
>
>> Nice talking to you, Brother. Together maybe we can make alt.atheism
>> obsolete.
>
> How would you do that?
>
Only by producing logical, objective, verifiable evidence. Let's not
hold our breath.

Malcolm McMahon

unread,
Apr 29, 2013, 5:04:00 AM4/29/13
to
On Saturday, 27 April 2013 22:15:04 UTC+1, vivapa...@aol.com wrote:
> James 1: 12-18.
>
>
>
> Blessed is the man who perseveres in temptation, for when he has been proved he will receive the crown of life that he promised to those who love him. No one experiencing temptation should say, "I am being tempted by God"; for God is not subject to temptation to evil, and he himself tempts no one. Rather, each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. Then desire conceives and brings forth sin, and when sin reaches maturity it gives birth to death. Do not be deceived, my beloved brothers: all good giving and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no alteration or shadow caused by change. He willed to give us birth by the word of truth that we may be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.

And, of course, one of the biggest temptations is to bigotry. To the belief that those differently motivated from yourself are Evil and to be regarded with contempt.
Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

Mitchell Holman

unread,
Apr 29, 2013, 8:23:28 PM4/29/13
to
Brother Love <clove...@mesotouri.edu> wrote in
news:k21un8dioj8p8psbn...@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:33:50 -0700 (PDT), "vivapa...@aol.com"
> I agree with you, Brother Viva. You are a fellow follower of The Lord.


"We are convinced that the people need and require the
Christian faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight
against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with
a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out."
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Adolf Hitler, October 1933












Message has been deleted

Mitchell Holman

unread,
Apr 30, 2013, 6:18:13 PM4/30/13
to
Brother Love <clove...@mesotouri.edu> wrote in
news:43g0o8hjo0vbvs1km...@4ax.com:
> Good for you, Brother Mitchell.


So you agree with the above quote from Hitler.

There is a bit of tyrant in all you theists, it seems.









Message has been deleted

Mitchell Holman

unread,
May 1, 2013, 8:43:03 AM5/1/13
to
Brother Love <clove...@mesotouri.edu> wrote in
news:blk1o8ta2rni9poo4...@4ax.com:

> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 17:18:13 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailerizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Brother Love <clove...@mesotouri.edu> wrote in
>>news:43g0o8hjo0vbvs1km...@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"We are convinced that the people need and require the
>>>>Christian faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight
>>>>against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with
>>>>a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out."
>>>>.
>>>
>>> Good for you, Brother Mitchell.
>>
>>
>> So you agree with the above quote from Hitler.
>>
>> There is a bit of tyrant in all you theists, it seems.
>>
>
> Hitler was an example of what happens when your an athiest.




"My feelings as a Christian points me to my
Lord and Savior as a fighter."
-Adolf Hitler, 12 April 1922





Message has been deleted

Mitchell Holman

unread,
May 2, 2013, 7:03:54 PM5/2/13
to
Brother Love <clove...@mesotouri.edu> wrote in
news:d2n5o89edqspogenn...@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 01 May 2013 07:43:03 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailerizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Brother Love <clove...@mesotouri.edu> wrote in
>>news:blk1o8ta2rni9poo4...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 17:18:13 -0500, Mitchell Holman
<nomailerizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Brother Love <clove...@mesotouri.edu> wrote in
>>>>news:43g0o8hjo0vbvs1km...@4ax.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"We are convinced that the people need and require the
>>>>>>Christian faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight
>>>>>>against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with
>>>>>>a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out."
>>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good for you, Brother Mitchell.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So you agree with the above quote from Hitler.
>>>>
>>>> There is a bit of tyrant in all you theists, it seems.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hitler was an example of what happens when your an athiest.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"My feelings as a Christian points me to my
>>Lord and Savior as a fighter."
>>-Adolf Hitler, 12 April 1922
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> And then he became an athiest and killed millions of innocent people.
>


"God the Almighty has made our nation. By defending
its existence we are defending His work. In vowing
ourselves to one another, we are entitled to stand
before the Almighty and ask Him for His grace and
His blessing."
-Adolf Hitler, 30 Jan. 1945



Note the date.




Message has been deleted

Mitchell Holman

unread,
May 3, 2013, 10:25:44 PM5/3/13
to
Brother Love <clove...@mesotouri.edu> wrote in
news:t1i8o8d9ani9go2b2...@4ax.com:

> On Thu, 02 May 2013 18:03:54 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailerizon.net>
> That must of been before he became an athiest.
>


Thus all of his crimes were when he
was a Christian.

Just so.............




Message has been deleted

Mitchell Holman

unread,
May 4, 2013, 9:46:04 PM5/4/13
to
Brother Love <clove...@mesotouri.edu> wrote in
news:mrbbo814qkh5pp8p8...@4ax.com:

> On Fri, 03 May 2013 21:25:44 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailerizon.net>
> Fool. Hitlers crimes were all after 1945.


What crimes were those?





0 new messages