Believe in Jesus - He is real

[satur...@yahoo.com]

Believe in Jesus, the son of the God, who died on cross for our sins. God wants that the one who believe in His son, Jesus, would have eternal life in paradise after death. I can assure that He is real because of my experience and if you believe in Him, you will feel better.

[Syd M.]

On May 18, 1:01 pm, saturn_...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Believe in Jesus,

Still, No.

PDW

[Mike Painter]

On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:01:01 -0700 (PDT), satur...@yahoo.com wrote:

>Believe in Jesus, the son of the God, who died on cross for our sins. God wants that the one who believe in His son, Jesus, would have eternal life in paradise after death. I can assure that He is real because of my experience and if you believe in Him, you will feel better.

If you believe and follow his teachings, please send me your credit
card information, your bank account numbers, and the deed to your
home.
Matthew 19:21

[Josef Balluch]

On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:01:01 -0700 (PDT), satur...@yahoo.com wrote:

[ snip ]

Previously refuted twaddle

[SkyEyes]

On May 18, 10:01 am, saturn_...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Believe in Jesus, the son of the God, who died on cross for our sins. God wants that the one who believe in His son, Jesus, would have eternal life in paradise after death. I can assure that He is real because of my experience and if you believe in Him, you will feel better.

There's not one shred of evidence that any god exists, nor that any
part of human consciousness survives the death of the brain. Of
course, if *you* have some, kindly post it. Otherwise, FOAD, stupid
drive-by poster that you are.

-
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
-

[Father Haskell]

On May 18, 1:01 pm, saturn_...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Believe in Jesus, the son of the God, who died on cross for our sins. God wants that the one who believe in His son, Jesus, would have eternal life in paradise after death. I can assure that He is real because of my experience and if you believe in Him, you will feel better.

Belieb in jebus, who sold you a bill of goods.

[kni...@baawa.com]

On Sat, 18 May 2013 17:10:10 -0400, Brother Love
<BrotherLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:01:01 -0700 (PDT), satur...@yahoo.com wrote:
>

>>Believe in Jesus, the son of the God, who died on cross for our sins.
>

>Amen, Brother Saturn. The Gospel can never be stated to often,
>especially in groups like these.

That would be 'too' often, not 'to'.

Idiot.

Warlord Steve
BAAWA

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <6f785784-08c3-4453...@googlegroups.com>,

satur...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Believe in Jesus, the son of the God,

Don't you have to provide evidence that either of this entities exist or
ever existed before you can talk about them to us?

--

JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

[Don Martin]

On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:01:01 -0700 (PDT), satur...@yahoo.com wrote:

>if you believe in Him, you will feel better.

I just farted and feel a good deal better; apparently, belief in your
jeesus is as beneficial as flatulence.

I think it rather odd that you chose the name of another god for your
online nym. Is that not a violation of the having "no other gods
before me" bit?

--

aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
The Squeeky Wheel: http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/

[harry k]

On May 18, 10:01 am, saturn_...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Believe in Jesus, the son of the God, who died on cross for our sins. God wants that the one who believe in His son, Jesus, would have eternal life in paradise after death. I can assure that He is real because of my experience and if you believe in Him, you will feel better.

If he is real, there is no reason to "believe" in him. It would be
self-evident

Harry K

[Syd M.]

On May 18, 5:10 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:01:01 -0700 (PDT), saturn_...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >Believe in Jesus, the son of the God, who died on cross for our sins. God wants that the one who believe in His son, Jesus, would have eternal life in paradise after death. I can assure that He is real because of my experience and if you believe in Him, you will feel better.
>

> Amen, Brother Saturn. The Gospel can never be stated to often,
> especially in groups like these.
>

> Always remember: Jesus love's you and so do I!
> Yes! Each and every one of you!

Empty assertion.
Prove this 'god' of yours exists, first.

PDW

[harry k]

On May 19, 7:10 am, Don Martin <drdonmar...@comcast.net> wrote:

And if there are "no other gods", why does he mention that?

Harry K

[%]

then believe its that

[MarkA]

How thoughtful of you. Sadly, the last time I visited my friendly
neighborhood neurosurgeon, and had him flip the "Ability to believe crazy,
made-up shit, despite massive contradictory evidence" switch in my brain,
not only did I believe in Jesus, but I couldn't help but believe in Santa
Claus, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, and the Intelligence of
Humankind, as well. The disconnect from reality was too much for me to
take, so I went back to being a Skeptic. However, the experience
wasn't a total loss; I'm now the proud owner of the Brooklyn Bridge, and
I'll be getting several million dollars from some politician in Nigeria
any day now!

--
MarkA

If you can read this, you can stop reading now.

[%]

just cause

[Gordon]

Prove that gravitons exist. Prove that Strings Super Strings and
Membranes exist. Why are some qualified scientists willing to invest a
lot of their time and resources in studying things like this but so
unwilling to do similar studies as to the existence of God. Gordon

[Father Haskell]

Superstrings are the Noodly Appendages which hold
the Universe together. Mock at your own peril.

[Gordon]

I'm not mocking Super Strings or any other such theories. I do think
they may have merits and should be studied a lot more. I feel the same
way about the idea that God exists. No objective proof but lots of
intuitive effects and the whole idea that God exists seems to fit in
with the things we know, scientifically.

In the beginning God initiated the Big Bang and thereby created the
Heavens (other dimensions) and the earth (our spacetime)....

Gordon

[Don Martin]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 08:31:29 -0700 (PDT), harry k <tur...@q.com>
wrote:

>On May 19, 7:10 am, Don Martin <drdonmar...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:01:01 -0700 (PDT), saturn_...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >if you believe in Him, you will feel better.
>>
>> I just farted and feel a good deal better; apparently, belief in your
>> jeesus is as beneficial as flatulence.
>>
>> I think it rather odd that you chose the name of another god for your
>> online nym.  Is that not a violation of the having "no other gods
>> before me" bit?
>

>And if there are "no other gods", why does he mention that?

Paranoia is apparently endemic among divinities.

[Syd M.]

On May 19, 1:24 pm, Gordon <gordo...@swbell.net> wrote:

Because evidence for your 'god' doesn't exist.

PDW

[Syd M.]

On May 19, 4:19 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> On Sun, 19 May 2013 08:30:00 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> The proof is all around you, dear Syd, if you would only open your
> eyes and your heart.
>
>

Nope. No evidence exists.

PDW

[Free Lunch]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 13:30:43 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
<pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:

Remember that ignorance-worshippers like Brother Love invent special,
fraudulent definitions for words like _evidence_. He knows he is lying.
He named himself after a con man in a song.

[Gordon]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 13:30:43 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."

An abundance of evidence supporting the idea that God exists is
available to anyone who volitionally chooses to explore and review
this evidence. But if one chooses to go the other way, God WILL NOT
overwhelm anyone into believing He exists. It is a fully volitional
choice for each and every human that has ever existed or ever will
exist. Gordon

[Free Lunch]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 15:42:17 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net> wrote
in alt.talk.creationism:

>On Sun, 19 May 2013 13:30:43 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
><pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On May 19, 4:19 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>
>>wrote:
>>> On Sun, 19 May 2013 08:30:00 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
>>>
>>> <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >On May 18, 5:10 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>
>>> >wrote:
>>> >> On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:01:01 -0700 (PDT), saturn_...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> >> >Believe in Jesus, the son of the God, who died on cross for our sins. God wants that the one who believe in His son, Jesus, would have eternal life in paradise after death. I can assure that He is real because of my experience and if you believe in Him, you will feel better.
>>>
>>> >> Amen, Brother Saturn. The Gospel can never be stated to often,
>>> >> especially in groups like these.
>>>
>>> >> Always remember: Jesus love's you and so do I!
>>> >> Yes! Each and every one of you!
>>>
>>> >Empty assertion.
>>> >Prove this 'god' of yours exists, first.
>>>
>>> >PDW
>>>
>>> The proof is all around you, dear Syd, if you would only open your
>>> eyes and your heart.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Nope. No evidence exists.
>>
>>PDW
>>
>An abundance of evidence supporting the idea that God exists is
>available to anyone who volitionally chooses to explore and review
>this evidence.

I am completely open to all evidence that supports the claim that a god
exists. No one has ever presented any to me. You certainly know that you
have refused to even try. All you do is claim that it exists and then
run away when asked to direct us to it.

>But if one chooses to go the other way, God WILL NOT
>overwhelm anyone into believing He exists. It is a fully volitional
>choice for each and every human that has ever existed or ever will
>exist. Gordon

You have chosen to lie to us. Does your god really need liars to get the
"word" out? As far as I can tell, you are showing us that your god
cannot possibly exist.

[Don Martin]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 15:42:17 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>

You do not seem to NAME this evidence or cite where it is available
for inspection. I wonder why that might be, apart from the
well-established fact that you are a blithering idiot.

[Dakota]

Biblegod was careful to look around before he wrote that commandment.
He was terrified that another god might catch him at it. He finally
came up with a compromise. Okay, he admitted to himself, there are
other gods but they're my equals and shouldn't be put "before" me.

[Christopher A. Lee]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 15:42:17 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>
wrote:

>An abundance of evidence supporting the idea that God exists is
>available

So you liars claim but never, ever provide.

> to anyone who volitionally chooses to explore and review
>this evidence.

The only reason they look for it is because they have already decided
there must be some because they have an unjustified certainty that the
object of their god-belief is objectively real.

And because they're desperate for something, they interpret all sorts
of things as "proof" which are anything but.

> But if one chooses to go the other way,

Nothing to choose, liar.

> God

Which begs the very same demand for proof/evidence/etc that you have
once again copped out of providing.

> WILL NOT
>overwhelm anyone into believing He exists. It is a fully volitional
>choice for each and every human that has ever existed or ever will
>exist. Gordon

Liar.

It is a brainwashed belief, and remains just that until you
narcissists and sociopaths demonstrate otherwise - which repeatedly
lying about those with no reason to believe because they aren't
brainwashed, won't do: all that does is confirm you have nothing and
are lying about it.

That's why Gordon is a moron...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTKORcr1jhY#t=01m31s

[Attila Iskander]

"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
news:ireip85jub3mpvemo...@4ax.com...

What makes you imagine yourself so special that someone needs to present it
to you ?
Aren't you adult enough to educate yourself ?
Apparently not (Which explains a great deal about your type)

[Father Haskell]

On May 19, 2:21 pm, Gordon <gordo...@swbell.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 10:32:38 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On May 19, 1:24 pm, Gordon <gordo...@swbell.net> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 19 May 2013 08:30:00 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
>
> >> <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >On May 18, 5:10 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>
> >> >wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:01:01 -0700 (PDT), saturn_...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> >> >Believe in Jesus, the son of the God, who died on cross for our sins. God wants that the one who believe in His son, Jesus, would have eternal life in paradise after death. I can assure that He is real because of my experience and if you believe in Him, you will feel better.
>
> >> >> Amen, Brother Saturn. The Gospel can never be stated to often,
> >> >> especially in groups like these.
>
> >> >> Always remember: Jesus love's you and so do I!
> >> >> Yes! Each and every one of you!
>
> >> >Empty assertion.
> >> >Prove this 'god' of yours exists, first.
>
> >> >PDW
>
> >> Prove that gravitons exist. Prove that Strings Super Strings and
> >> Membranes exist. Why are some qualified scientists willing to invest a
> >> lot of their time and resources in studying things like this but so
> >> unwilling to do similar studies as to the existence of God. Gordon
>
> >Superstrings are the Noodly Appendages which hold
> >the Universe together.  Mock at your own peril.
>
> I'm not mocking Super Strings or any other such theories.

The FSM is NOT a "theory." It's COMPLETELY
true bullshit.

[Free Lunch]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 17:06:04 -0500, "Attila Iskander"
<Attila....@live.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:

I merely noted that there is no supporting evidence for the claim that
any gods exist. If I am mistaken, I am open to correction. As long as
religious liars spew lies and nonsense rather than look for and present
evidence, I have no reason to trust any of them.

>Aren't you adult enough to educate yourself ?
> Apparently not (Which explains a great deal about your type)

I am educated. I see no evidence to support any gods. Do you?

[linuxgal]

Dakota wrote:
> Biblegod was careful to look around before he wrote that commandment. He
> was terrified that another god might catch him at it. He finally came up
> with a compromise. Okay, he admitted to himself, there are other gods
> but they're my equals and shouldn't be put "before" me.

When you dig in the Bible it's like digging through strata. There was a
time when the Hebrews where henotheists who acknowledged the existence
of other gods, but put theirs first, as you say. They enforced this act
of putting theirs first as the prohibition of idolatry. And this sin
remains as a vestigial no-no when their god evolved to become the sole
deity in the universe. It would be like a man and a woman left alone
for yeares on a deserted island, and the woman suddenly getting jealous
finding a strange blonde hair on the man's coconut tree leaf shirt.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <t3eip8tdvt4o987oc...@4ax.com>,

Then you should have absolutely no problem presenting some of it right
here:

....

....

...

...


...

--

JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <hkgip8lphgpnk3uir...@4ax.com>,

Brother Love <BrotherLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 19 May 2013 13:30:43 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
> <pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>

> I pity you then, Syd, and I will pray for you. Have you never seen a
> beautiful sunset? Have you never picked flowers for your wife? Have
> you never revealed in the marvel of a new born baby?

You were asked for evidence. So why did you, instead, provide this list
of wonderful things?

[Virgil]

In article <hkgip8lphgpnk3uir...@4ax.com>,
Brother Love <BrotherLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >Nope. No evidence exists.
> >
> >PDW
>

> Have you never seen a
> beautiful sunset? Have you never picked flowers for your wife? Have
> you never revealed in the marvel of a new born baby?

I have never seen any evidence that what we find beautiful is not
governed by evolution.
--

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <3g2ip8dte40gd4loq...@4ax.com>,

Nobody claims that any of those things are real.

You have been told this multiple times so why do you keep lying about it?

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-D90D4C...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

http://www.proofthatgodexists.org/

[Free Lunch]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 16:37:45 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
alt.talk.creationism:

It's a silly website by someone who clearly failed his critical
thinking/logic class.

[Gordon]

My question was and still is, why does anyone spend time and resources
studying things like graviton theory SS-M Theory, etc., but refuse to
study things like a cosmic consciousness...God? Gordon

[Tom McDonald]

Funny site. Did you have a point?

[Gordon]

Bible and science congruencies.

Cambrian Life Explosion.

An overwhelming compulsion in the minds of all humans to identify and
align with some form of spiritual intelligence.

And MANY other such leads.

[Smiler]

An abundance of evidence supporting the idea that leprechauns exist is

available to anyone who volitionally chooses to explore and review this
evidence.

> But if one chooses to go the other way, God WILL NOT overwhelm anyone into
> believing He exists. It is a fully volitional choice for each and every
> human that has ever existed or ever will exist. Gordon

But if one chooses to go the other way, leprechauns WILL NOT overwhelm
anyone into believing they exist. It is a fully volitional choice for

each and every human that has ever existed or ever will exist.

See how stupid that is?

--
Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.

[Smiler]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 10:10:04 -0500, Don Martin wrote:

> On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:01:01 -0700 (PDT), satur...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>if you believe in Him, you will feel better.
>

> I just farted and feel a good deal better; apparently, belief in your
> jeesus is as beneficial as flatulence.

And like flatulence, belief may be good for the believer but not for those
around him. Belief stinks.

[Smiler]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 11:40:06 -0400, MarkA wrote:

> On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:01:01 -0700, saturn_115 wrote:
>
>> Believe in Jesus, the son of the God, who died on cross for our sins.
>> God wants that the one who believe in His son, Jesus, would have eternal
>> life in paradise after death. I can assure that He is real because of my

>> experience and if you believe in Him, you will feel better.
>
> How thoughtful of you. Sadly, the last time I visited my friendly
> neighborhood neurosurgeon, and had him flip the "Ability to believe crazy,
> made-up shit, despite massive contradictory evidence" switch in my brain,
> not only did I believe in Jesus, but I couldn't help but believe in Santa
> Claus, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, and the Intelligence of
> Humankind, as well. The disconnect from reality was too much for me to
> take, so I went back to being a Skeptic. However, the experience wasn't a
> total loss; I'm now the proud owner of the Brooklyn Bridge, and I'll be
> getting several million dollars from some politician in Nigeria any day
> now!

You mean you DIDN'T win several million $$$ in a lottery you didn't enter???

[Mitchell Holman]

Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in

news:c1pip8h5krfuei4ku...@4ax.com:

Remember when Jason was quoting ICR all the time?

Maybe even he has given up on their silliness........





"All things in the universe were created and made
by God in the six literal days of the Creation Week
described in Genesis 1:1-2:3, and confirmed in Exodus
20:8-11. The creation record is factual, historical,
and perspicuous; thus all theories of origins or
development that involve evolution in any form are
false."
http://www.icr.org/tenets/

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <keqip81paq4hvaeuf...@4ax.com>,

Because there's evidence that those things might exist and can be
investigated.

Who's stopping you from starting your own research group and finding the
funding to do your own research into the existence or non-existence of
your god?

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-19051...@67-150-123-165.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Oh dear. Yet another A Jason.

You really would stop making yourself looking so foolish all the time if
you would only go to a site before posting the URL.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <hlqip8h4okm00s3n9...@4ax.com>,

Cute list. But, of course, there's no evidence in it.

Care to try again?

[Dakota]

I clicked the Exit button and ended up at a disney.com.

[k...@attt.bizz]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 19:12:23 -0500, Gordon <gord...@swbell.net>

Because the (results of) these "theories" can be scientifically
tested. The "cosmic consciousness of God", whatever that is, cannot.
That you have to ask such a silly question proves that you don't
understand the difference between religion and science any better than
do atheists.

[SkyEyes]

On May 19, 5:16 pm, Gordon <gordo...@swbell.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 16:26:51 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> >In article <t3eip8tdvt4o987oct2685sg3hajdjq...@4ax.com>,

An "explosion" that took +/- 20 million years and resulted in the
first critters with hard body parts that would fossilize.

And you think this proves...what, exactly?

>
> An overwhelming compulsion in the minds of all humans to identify and
> align with some form of spiritual intelligence.

No such thing. I'm widely traveled and I grew up with native peoples
and lemme clue you in on something: this notion is bogus. Plenty of
people in the world have *absolutely* no "compulsion" to "align" with
any kind of "spiritual" intelligence. That's just propaganda that
they made up so that they could provide an answer to a ready-made
question.

>
> And MANY other such leads.

*Do* go on. Don't stop now, you're on such a roll.

-
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
-

[Don Martin]

Smiler <Youm...@JoeKing.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 10:10:04 -0500, Don Martin wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:01:01 -0700 (PDT), satur...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> if you believe in Him, you will feel better.
>>
>> I just farted and feel a good deal better; apparently, belief in your
>> jeesus is as beneficial as flatulence.
>
> And like flatulence, belief may be good for the believer but not for those
> around him. Belief stinks.

Both preaching and farting get one more room in a crowded elevator,
however.

--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
The Squeeky Wheel: http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/

[Don Martin]

Cite one such.

> Cambrian Life Explosion.

An explosion that only took 20 million years from start to finish (and who
knows how long the echoes lasted?)

> An overwhelming compulsion in the minds of all humans to identify and
> align with some form of spiritual intelligence.

ALL humans? I have never had such feelings, and even if omnipresent, this
"compulsion" would be entirely subjective and not evidence that any
"spiritual intelligence" actually existed.

> And MANY other such leads.

You are very good at repeating "many" in genuine capitals, but pretty short
on testable specifics.

[Don Martin]

Why do you care? You are obviously incapable of comprehending either one.

My question was and still is, why do cretins such as yourself spend time
and resources blathering about your imaginary superfriend while
energetically dodging requests for evidence for the existence of that
critter? (Citations of "the miracle of birth" and references to propaganda
books do not count as evidence).

[Christopher A. Lee]

He have been told this multiple times so why does he keep lying about
it?

What makes the sociopathic moron so dishonest he "argues" using such
transparently dishonest analogies?

Gravitons are a theoretical explanation for gravity which nobody
imagines are real, love us and tell us we should worship them or
suffer infinite torment etc.

Nor do graviton believers wipe them in our faces all day and every day
even after they have been told to put up or shut the fuck up about
them.

String theory is an untested mathematical model for the universe.
Nobody imagines branes are real, love us and tell us we should worship
them or suffer infinite torment etc.

Nor do string theory believers wipe them in our faces all day and
every day even after they have been told to put up or shut the fuck up
about them.

There is nothing whatsoever that suggests a cosmic consciousness - he
has plucked it out of his arse.

But they do wipe it in our faces with such regularity they get told to
put up or shut up .

And until he demonstrates otherwise God remains merely one of
thousands of different, incompatible religious BELIEFS and not
substantively different from all the others - they're ALL the result
of religious brainwashing, and they're ALL only special to their
believers who for some reason have a compulsion to wipe it in
everybody else's faces whether or not they're interested.

The in-your-face, aggressively stupid, non-stop, lying bullshit
merchant knows this.

If he had demonstrated "cosmic consciousness" with the kind of
evidence there is for gravity, of this hypothetical God with as much
evidence as there is for the universe then he might have a point.

But he hadn't, and he hasn't.

He isn't just a moron, there is somethoing seriously wrong with him.

He's like a real-life Hyacinth Bucket (pronounced Bouquet) but orders
of magnitude worse, that everybody crosses the road to avoid, or goes
to the next pub down the road when she enters the bar, the kind of
non-stop, in-your-face, obsessive crackpot on a mission that everybody
crosses the road to avoid.

>Why do you care? You are obviously incapable of comprehending either one.
>
>My question was and still is, why do cretins such as yourself spend time
>and resources blathering about your imaginary superfriend while
>energetically dodging requests for evidence for the existence of that
>critter? (Citations of "the miracle of birth" and references to propaganda
>books do not count as evidence).

The moron will never answer this.

And he is too stupid to understand why people demand proof from him.

[Attila Iskander]

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hlwdjsd2-D90D4C...@news.giganews.com...
> In article <t3eip8tdvt4o987oc...@4ax.com>,
> Gordon <gord...@swbell.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 19 May 2013 13:30:43 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
>> <pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On May 19, 4:19 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>
>> >wrote:

>> >> On Sun, 19 May 2013 08:30:00 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
>> >>
>> >> <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >On May 18, 5:10 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:01:01 -0700 (PDT), saturn_...@yahoo.com
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >Believe in Jesus, the son of the God, who died on cross for our
>> >> >> >sins.
>> >> >> >God wants that the one who believe in His son, Jesus, would have
>> >> >> >eternal life in paradise after death. I can assure that He is real
>> >> >> >because of my experience and if you believe in Him, you will feel
>> >> >> >better.
>> >>
>> >> >> Amen, Brother Saturn. The Gospel can never be stated to often,
>> >> >> especially in groups like these.
>> >>
>> >> >> Always remember: Jesus love's you and so do I!
>> >> >> Yes! Each and every one of you!
>> >>
>> >> >Empty assertion.
>> >> >Prove this 'god' of yours exists, first.
>> >>
>> >> >PDW
>> >>

>> >> The proof is all around you, dear Syd, if you would only open your
>> >> eyes and your heart.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >Nope. No evidence exists.
>> >
>> >PDW
>> >
>> An abundance of evidence supporting the idea that God exists is
>
>
> Then you should have absolutely no problem presenting some of it right
> here:
>

Why don't you start with this
"The Science of God" by Gerald Schroeder
It's already been suggested to you
But I'm quite sure that you just stayed as ignorant as the last time,
sitting on your fat ass.

[Attila Iskander]

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message

news:hlwdjsd2-7C745E...@news.giganews.com...

Really ?

> You have been told this multiple times so why do you keep lying about it?
>

Just because you claim something does NOT make it true
Particularly since YOU have been caught lying in the past.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <knehjk$dqf$1...@dont-email.me>,

Why don't you tell us what evidence is in that book that would make it
worth reading.

[Yap]

On May 19, 1:01 am, saturn_...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Believe in Jesus, the son of the God, who died on cross for our sins. God wants that the one who believe in His son, Jesus, would have eternal life in paradise after death. I can assure that He is real because of my experience and if you believe in Him, you will feel better.

You think the time hasn't moved?
It is 21st century, you know....

[Yap]

On May 19, 5:10 am, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:01:01 -0700 (PDT), saturn_...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >Believe in Jesus, the son of the God, who died on cross for our sins. God wants that the one who believe in His son, Jesus, would have eternal life in paradise after death. I can assure that He is real because of my experience and if you believe in Him, you will feel better.
>

> Amen, Brother Saturn. The Gospel can never be stated to often,
> especially in groups like these.

His nym is satan, not saturn....

[Yap]

On May 19, 11:31 pm, harry k <turn...@q.com> wrote:

> On May 19, 7:10 am, Don Martin <drdonmar...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:01:01 -0700 (PDT), saturn_...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >if you believe in Him, you will feel better.
>

> > I just farted and feel a good deal better; apparently, belief in your
> > jeesus is as beneficial as flatulence.
>

> > I think it rather odd that you chose the name of another god for your
> > online nym.  Is that not a violation of the having "no other gods
> > before me" bit?

>
> > --
>
> > aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
> > BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
> >             Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
> > The Squeeky Wheel:  http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
>

> And if there are "no other gods", why does he mention that?

Do you think those goat herders had brains up there?
And if it was the truth, then their god had no brain whatsoever....

Either way, it did show their stupidity.

>
> Harry K

[Yap]

On May 20, 1:24 am, Gordon <gordo...@swbell.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 08:30:00 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On May 18, 5:10 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>

> >wrote:
> >> On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:01:01 -0700 (PDT), saturn_...@yahoo.com wrote:

> >> >Believe in Jesus, the son of the God, who died on cross for our sins. God wants that the one who believe in His son, Jesus, would have eternal life in paradise after death. I can assure that He is real because of my experience and if you believe in Him, you will feel better.
>
> >> Amen, Brother Saturn. The Gospel can never be stated to often,
> >> especially in groups like these.
>

> >> Always remember: Jesus love's you and so do I!
> >> Yes! Each and every one of you!
>

> >Empty assertion.
> >Prove this 'god' of yours exists, first.
>
> >PDW
>

> Prove that gravitons exist. Prove that Strings Super Strings and
> Membranes exist. Why are some qualified scientists willing to invest a
> lot of their time and resources in studying things like this but so
> unwilling to do similar studies as to the existence of God.   Gordon

Oh, brainless speaking here....

Assuming that your pixie existed, why did the twin tower collapsed?
It did not care about his believers, especially in a land of loony?

[Yap]

On May 20, 4:19 am, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>

wrote:
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 08:30:00 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On May 18, 5:10 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>
> >wrote:
> >> On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:01:01 -0700 (PDT), saturn_...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> >Believe in Jesus, the son of the God, who died on cross for our sins. God wants that the one who believe in His son, Jesus, would have eternal life in paradise after death. I can assure that He is real because of my experience and if you believe in Him, you will feel better.
>
> >> Amen, Brother Saturn. The Gospel can never be stated to often,
> >> especially in groups like these.
>
> >> Always remember: Jesus love's you and so do I!
> >> Yes! Each and every one of you!
>
> >Empty assertion.
> >Prove this 'god' of yours exists, first.
>
> >PDW
>

> The proof is all around you, dear Syd, if you would only open your
> eyes and your heart.
>

> Always remember: Jesus love's you and so do I!
> Yes! Each and every one of you!

All you want is money from us, nothing else.........

[Yap]

On May 20, 5:42 am, Don Martin <drdonmar...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 15:42:17 -0500, Gordon <gordo...@swbell.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Sun, 19 May 2013 13:30:43 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
> ><pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>On May 19, 4:19 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>

> >>wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 19 May 2013 08:30:00 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
>
> >>> <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> >On May 18, 5:10 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>
> >>> >wrote:
> >>> >> On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:01:01 -0700 (PDT), saturn_...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> >> >Believe in Jesus, the son of the God, who died on cross for our sins. God wants that the one who believe in His son, Jesus, would have eternal life in paradise after death. I can assure that He is real because of my experience and if you believe in Him, you will feel better.
>
> >>> >> Amen, Brother Saturn. The Gospel can never be stated to often,
> >>> >> especially in groups like these.
>
> >>> >> Always remember: Jesus love's you and so do I!
> >>> >> Yes! Each and every one of you!
>
> >>> >Empty assertion.
> >>> >Prove this 'god' of yours exists, first.
>
> >>> >PDW
>
> >>> The proof is all around you, dear Syd, if you would only open your
> >>> eyes and your heart.
>

> >>Nope. No evidence exists.
>
> >>PDW
>
> >An abundance of evidence supporting the idea that God exists is

> >available to anyone who volitionally chooses to explore and review
> >this evidence.
>
> You do not seem to NAME this evidence or cite where it is available
> for inspection.  I wonder why that might be, apart from the
> well-established fact that you are a blithering idiot.

Why should we think for a nano second that this Gordon fool has
evidence to show?
With the passage of time for 2000 years, will he be the first to
provide anything?
No one is holding his breath, I hope........

[Yap]

On May 20, 5:51 am, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 15:42:17 -0500, Gordon <gordo...@swbell.net>
> wrote:
>
> >An abundance of evidence supporting the idea that God exists is
> >available
>

> So you liars claim but never, ever provide.

>
> >                to anyone who volitionally chooses to explore and review
> >this evidence.
>

> The only reason they look for it is because they have already decided
> there must be some because they have an unjustified certainty that the
> object of their god-belief is objectively real.
>
> And because they're desperate for something, they interpret all sorts
> of things as "proof" which are anything but.
>
> >                     But if one chooses to go the other way,
>
> Nothing to choose, liar.
>
> >                                                                                 God
>
> Which begs the very same demand for proof/evidence/etc that you have
> once again copped out of providing.
>
> >                                                                                       WILL NOT
> >overwhelm anyone into believing He exists. It is a fully volitional
> >choice for each and every human that has ever existed or ever will
> >exist.   Gordon
>
> Liar.
>
> It is a brainwashed  belief, and remains just that until you
> narcissists and sociopaths demonstrate otherwise - which repeatedly
> lying about those with no reason to believe because they aren't
> brainwashed, won't do: all that does is confirm you have nothing and
> are lying about it.
>
> That's why Gordon is a moron...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTKORcr1jhY#t=01m31s

Ya, evidence that Gordon is a real moron.

[Yap]

On May 20, 6:06 am, "Attila Iskander" <Attila.Iskan...@live.com>
wrote:
> "Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
>
> news:ireip85jub3mpvemo...@4ax.com...

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 19 May 2013 15:42:17 -0500, Gordon <gordo...@swbell.net> wrote

> > in alt.talk.creationism:

>
> >>On Sun, 19 May 2013 13:30:43 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
> >><pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>On May 19, 4:19 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>

> >>>wrote:

> >>>> On Sun, 19 May 2013 08:30:00 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
>
> >>>> <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> >On May 18, 5:10 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>
> >>>> >wrote:
> >>>> >> On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:01:01 -0700 (PDT), saturn_...@yahoo.com
> >>>> >> wrote:
> >>>> >> >Believe in Jesus, the son of the God, who died on cross for our
> >>>> >> >sins. God wants that the one who believe in His son, Jesus, would
> >>>> >> >have eternal life in paradise after death. I can assure that He is
> >>>> >> >real because of my experience and if you believe in Him, you will
> >>>> >> >feel better.
>
> >>>> >> Amen, Brother Saturn. The Gospel can never be stated to often,
> >>>> >> especially in groups like these.
>
> >>>> >> Always remember: Jesus love's you and so do I!
> >>>> >> Yes! Each and every one of you!
>
> >>>> >Empty assertion.
> >>>> >Prove this 'god' of yours exists, first.
>
> >>>> >PDW
>
> >>>> The proof is all around you, dear Syd, if you would only open your
> >>>> eyes and your heart.
>
> >>>Nope. No evidence exists.
>
> >>>PDW
>

> >>An abundance of evidence supporting the idea that God exists is

> >>available to anyone who volitionally chooses to explore and review
> >>this evidence.
>
> > I am completely open to all evidence that supports the claim that a god
> > exists. No one has ever presented any to me. You certainly know that you
> > have refused to even try. All you do is claim that it exists and then
> > run away when asked to direct us to it.
>
> What makes you imagine yourself so special that someone needs to present it
> to you ?

We are all special enough for you to present, otherwise please fuck
off, sucker.

> Aren't you adult enough to educate yourself ?
>     Apparently not (Which explains a great deal about your type)

[Yap]

On May 20, 7:37 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <hlwdjsd2-D90D4C.16265119052...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <t3eip8tdvt4o987oct2685sg3hajdjq...@4ax.com>,

> > Then you should have absolutely no problem presenting some of it right
> > here:
>

> http://www.proofthatgodexists.org/

It is as good as you said so, too.

[Yap]

On May 20, 8:12 am, Gordon <gordo...@swbell.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 16:29:32 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> >In article <3g2ip8dte40gd4loq4n5nq1g9qokkse...@4ax.com>,

> > Gordon <gordo...@swbell.net> wrote:
>
> >> On Sun, 19 May 2013 08:30:00 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
> >> <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> >On May 18, 5:10 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>
> >> >wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:01:01 -0700 (PDT), saturn_...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> >> >Believe in Jesus, the son of the God, who died on cross for our sins. God
> >> >> >wants that the one who believe in His son, Jesus, would have eternal life
> >> >> >in paradise after death. I can assure that He is real because of my
> >> >> >experience and if you believe in Him, you will feel better.
>
> >> >> Amen, Brother Saturn. The Gospel can never be stated to often,
> >> >> especially in groups like these.
>
> >> >> Always remember: Jesus love's you and so do I!
> >> >> Yes! Each and every one of you!
>
> >> >Empty assertion.
> >> >Prove this 'god' of yours exists, first.
>
> >> >PDW
>

> >> Prove that gravitons exist. Prove that Strings Super Strings and
> >> Membranes exist. Why are some qualified scientists willing to invest a
> >> lot of their time and resources in studying things like this but so
> >> unwilling to do similar studies as to the existence of God.   Gordon
>

> >Nobody claims that any of those things are real.
>

> >You have been told this multiple times so why do you keep lying about it?
>

> My question was and still is, why does anyone spend time and resources
> studying things like graviton theory SS-M Theory, etc., but refuse to
> study things like a cosmic consciousness...God?   Gordon

You are mixing science and delusion together.
Science is beneficial to human while your religion is toxic.

[%]

nope time hasn't moved

[%]

amen brother saturn

[%]

and yours

[%]

it brought thousands of people closer together

[%]

so you're safe then because you have no money

[%]

i know what you're holding

[%]

yes you are

[%]

i can type

[%]

yes it is

[%]

science has caused more deaths

[Stormin Mormon]

WWJP: Who would Jesus plonk?

Hey, Brother Love. You and your husband are turning down some wonderful teaching moments. These people are so eager to be taught the gospel, and taught to except Christ. Do you always plonk the people you love?
.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
.
"Brother Love" <clove...@mesotouri.edu> wrote in message news:v26kp89lsumbuf91m...@4ax.com...

>
>Empty assertion.
>Prove this 'god' of yours exists, first.
>
>PDW

<PLONK>

Always remember:
Jesus love's you and so do I!

Every single one of you!

[Stormin Mormon]

All those crowds of cheering Muslims?

.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
.

"%" <per...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:YrSdnXHjAd2jfAfM...@giganews.com...

[Stormin Mormon]

I also am concerned that people say the US President is "running the country". He's an elected representative. We (used to) run our own lives. Before EPA, DHS, IRS, and the other TLA.

.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
.

"Attila Iskander" <Attila....@live.com> wrote in message news:knehc0$ccl$1...@dont-email.me...

What makes anyone believe that "God is managing the planet" ?
What makes people imagine that God has a need or even duty to "manage the
planet" ?

The very notion that God is one one side and not the other of some human
disagreement is total nonsense that humans invented to justify their bad
behavior.
"Since God is on my side, what I do is justified..".
is total self-justification that has nothing to do with God


Maybe it's not that God has a need to make of secret of himself
Maybe it's God has not need to show himself, whenever people find it
convenient for him to appear.

[Don Martin]

"Attila Iskander" <Attila....@live.com> wrote:
> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hlwdjsd2-D90D4C...@news.giganews.com...
>> In article <t3eip8tdvt4o987oc...@4ax.com>,

>> Gordon <gord...@swbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 19 May 2013 13:30:43 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."

>>> <pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On May 19, 4:19 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>

>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 19 May 2013 08:30:00 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
>>>>>
>>>>> <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On May 18, 5:10 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:01:01 -0700 (PDT), saturn_...@yahoo.com >> >> >> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Believe in Jesus, the son of the God, who died on cross for our >> >> >> >sins.
>>>>>>>> God wants that the one who believe in His son, Jesus, would have
>>>>>>>> eternal life in paradise after death. I can assure that He is real
>>>>>>>> because of my experience and if you believe in Him, you will feel
>>>>>>>> better.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Amen, Brother Saturn. The Gospel can never be stated to often,
>>>>>>> especially in groups like these.
>>>>>

>>>>>>> Always remember: Jesus love's you and so do I!

>>>>>>> Yes! Each and every one of you!
>>>>>

>>>>>> Empty assertion.
>>>>>> Prove this 'god' of yours exists, first.
>>>>>
>>>>>> PDW
>>>>>

>>>>> The proof is all around you, dear Syd, if you would only open your
>>>>> eyes and your heart.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nope. No evidence exists.
>>>>
>>>> PDW
>>>>
>>> An abundance of evidence supporting the idea that God exists is
>>
>>
>> Then you should have absolutely no problem presenting some of it right
>> here:
>>
>

> Why don't you start with this
> "The Science of God" by Gerald Schroeder

Any "scientist" who leads off with the argument from "fine-tuned constants"
needs a refresher course on why the holes so perfectly fit the water in mud
puddles.

[Attila Iskander]

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message

news:hlwdjsd2-549840...@news.giganews.com...

Why don't you just demonstrate some intellectual curiosity instead of
demonstrating your have a mind as open as a paranoid clam in a field of
starfish ?

[Attila Iskander]

"Yap" <hhya...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0ae44666-2fdc-4f9b...@z10g2000pbn.googlegroups.com...
#
# You are mixing science and delusion together.
# Science is beneficial to human while your religion is toxic.

That's a common delusion of such as you who only look at one side of the
coin.
Science like religion are just tools that humanity uses to address different
things
Claiming that one is good while the other is not is just delusion
It's quite easy to show examples of where science has been used as an excuse
and a tool do to evil. It is also easy to show where religion has been used
as an excuse and a tool to do good.

But hey, don't let that limit your "thinking"
<snicker>

[harry k]

On May 21, 4:01 am, "Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**NOJUN...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> WWJP: Who would Jesus plonk?
>
> Hey, Brother Love. You and your husband are turning down some wonderful teaching moments. These people are so eager to be taught the gospel, and taught to except Christ. Do  you always plonk the people you love?
> .
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
>    www.lds.org
> .
> .
>

> "Brother Love" <clovedoc...@mesotouri.edu> wrote in messagenews:v26kp89lsumbuf91m...@4ax.com...

>
> >Empty assertion.
> >Prove this 'god' of yours exists, first.
>
> >PDW
>
> <PLONK>
>
> Always remember:
> Jesus love's you and so do I!
> Every single one of you!

His "plonks" are empty words. He plonked me yesterday and then almost
instantly responded to another of my posts. It is to laugh at
him...as if we didn't already.

Harry K

[harry k]

On May 21, 8:03 am, "Attila Iskander" <Attila.Iskan...@live.com>
wrote:
> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:hlwdjsd2-549840...@news.giganews.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <knehjk$dq...@dont-email.me>,
> > "Attila Iskander" <Attila.Iskan...@live.com> wrote:
>
> >> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:hlwdjsd2-D90D4C...@news.giganews.com...
> >> > In article <t3eip8tdvt4o987oct2685sg3hajdjq...@4ax.com>,

I was fed that book as a kid and did read it. When I got old enough
to actually _think_, I found nothing of any intellectual worth in it.

Harry K

[k...@attt.bizz]

I want to see this evidence.

[Stormin Mormon]

Considering his grasp of the American language,
it's not a big surprise that he uses words wrong.

Plonk? Maybe that means he's printing out your
messages and saving them?

.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
.

"harry k" <tur...@q.com> wrote in message news:1e24417b-a288-4ba1...@li6g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...

[hypatiab7]

On Monday, May 20, 2013 10:26:18 PM UTC-4, Yap wrote:
> On May 20, 8:12 am, Gordon <gordo...@swbell.net> wrote:
> > On Sun, 19 May 2013 16:29:32 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
> > <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> > >In article <3g2ip8dte40gd4loq4n5nq1g9qokkse...@4ax.com>,
> > > Gordon <gordo...@swbell.net> wrote:
> > >> On Sun, 19 May 2013 08:30:00 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
> > >> <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> >On May 18, 5:10 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>
> > >> >wrote:
> > >> >> On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:01:01 -0700 (PDT), saturn_...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > >> >> >Believe in Jesus, the son of the God, who died on cross for our sins. God
> > >> >> >wants that the one who believe in His son, Jesus, would have eternal life
> > >> >> >in paradise after death. I can assure that He is real because of my
> > >> >> >experience and if you believe in Him, you will feel better.
>
> > >> >> Amen, Brother Saturn. The Gospel can never be stated to often,
> > >> >> especially in groups like these.
>
> > >> >> Always remember: Jesus love's you and so do I!
> > >> >> Yes! Each and every one of you!
>
> > >> >Empty assertion.

> > >> >Prove this 'god' of yours exists, first.
>

> > >> Prove that gravitons exist. Prove that Strings Super Strings and
> > >> Membranes exist. Why are some qualified scientists willing to invest a
> > >> lot of their time and resources in studying things like this but so
> > >> unwilling to do similar studies as to the existence of God.   Gordon
>
> > >Nobody claims that any of those things are real.
>
> > >You have been told this multiple times so why do you keep lying about it?
>
> > My question was and still is, why does anyone spend time and resources
> > studying things like graviton theory SS-M Theory, etc., but refuse to
>
> > study things like a cosmic consciousness...God?   Gordon
>
> You are mixing science and delusion together.
>
> Science is beneficial to human while your religion is toxic.

Exactly. Science may have been used for the wrong purpose
at various times, but that is the fault of the people using
it, not science itself. Whereas, religion has caused more
death and suffering throughout history than anything else -
religious wars, inquisitions, blocked research that could
have saved millions of lives throughout history, keeping
people in horrible ignorance. Nothing can compare with
religion for causing needless deaths and suffering.

[Christopher A. Lee]

If the liar actually had any he would have provided it.

Instead of telling us to look for something ourselves;

>>>>> Nope. No evidence exists.
>>>>>
>>>>> PDW
>>>>>
>>>> An abundance of evidence supporting the idea that God exists is

A falsehood so transparent it insults the intelligence.

>>> Then you should have absolutely no problem presenting some of it right
>>> here:

Don't hold your breath.

>> Why don't you start with this
>> "The Science of God" by Gerald Schroeder

Once again, a stupid religionist expects us to find something he
imagines supports his deluded fantasy instead of providing it himself.

If he actually understood what he read, he would paraphrase the best
arguments in his own words and at least try to defend them against
criticism.

Which I have never, ever seen any of them do.

Instead they attack those who point out the problems.

Citing this bullshit is somehow meant to "prove" it,

>Any "scientist" who leads off with the argument from "fine-tuned constants"
>needs a refresher course on why the holes so perfectly fit the water in mud
>puddles.

Is this where Ron Dean / Dan Wood / Steve Wilson gets his fine tuning
bullshit?

It takes complete inability to think, to believe that stuff - but the
gullible idiots do and are unable to defend it against the obvious
when the problems are pointed out, so they get defensive and lash out.

[Free Lunch]

On Mon, 20 May 2013 19:56:09 -0700, "%" <per...@gmail.com> wrote in
alt.talk.creationism:

I'm sure your mommy is very proud of you.

Let us know when you learn to think.

[Free Lunch]

On Mon, 20 May 2013 20:13:27 -0500, "Attila Iskander"
<Attila....@live.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:

>"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
>news:hlwdjsd2-D90D4C...@news.giganews.com...
>> In article <t3eip8tdvt4o987oc...@4ax.com>,

>> Then you should have absolutely no problem presenting some of it right
>> here:
>>
>

>Why don't you start with this
> "The Science of God" by Gerald Schroeder

At least you didn't recommend "Evidence that Demands a Verdict".
Schroeder's book essentially assumes the existence of his god and then
tries to show that the discoveries of science don't show that his
religion cannot be true. It doesn't actually provide any evidence that
any gods exist.

>It's already been suggested to you
>But I'm quite sure that you just stayed as ignorant as the last time,
>sitting on your fat ass.

Try another one please.

[Free Lunch]

On Tue, 21 May 2013 08:15:04 -0700 (PDT), harry k <tur...@q.com> wrote
in alt.talk.creationism:

Of course that book was not written by someone who believed in Jesus
(see title of thread), either.