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SkyEyes  
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 More options Oct 28 2012, 12:45 am
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From: SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net>
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:45:55 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Oct 28 2012 12:45 am
Subject: Re: #Race card
On Oct 27, 8:14 am, Gray Guest <No_email_for_...@wahoo.com> wrote:

I can't help myself, I was brought up to be a fundamentalist
christian.  It's what I was taught.  "It is easier for a camel to go
through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to get into
heaven."  "Lay not up for yourselves treasures on Earth, where moth
and rust doth corrupt, and thieves break in and steal; but lay up for
yourselves treasures in Heaven." Etc., etc., etc.  While I no longer
believe in the superstition, I still very much believe in the moral
stance.

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 More options Oct 28 2012, 12:47 am
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From: SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net>
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:47:45 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Oct 28 2012 12:47 am
Subject: Re: #Race card
On Oct 27, 6:38 pm, 3216 Dead <d...@dead.dog> wrote:

Threats are the only things GG understands.

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 More options Oct 28 2012, 4:17 am
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From: Gray Guest <No_email_for_...@wahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:17:51 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sun, Oct 28 2012 4:17 am
Subject: Re: #Race card
SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote in news:17cae6ad-1884-4ff5-899d-
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Awwww. And I thought you couldn't impose your morality on another.

It seems you can.

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 More options Oct 28 2012, 4:19 am
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From: Gray Guest <No_email_for_...@wahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:19:08 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: Re: #Race card
SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote in news:9d55757d-db91-4251-99a9-
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Especially the threat to my life, liberty and pursuit of happiness that you
lefty dirtbags are pushing.

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Klaus Schadenfreude  
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 More options Oct 28 2012, 8:41 am
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From: Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 05:41:08 -0700
Local: Sun, Oct 28 2012 8:41 am
Subject: Re: #Race card

I didn't think so. Because you're incapable. I thought you just came
here to get a regular bitch slapping.

Seems to be working out pretty well for you.


 
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 More options Oct 28 2012, 8:46 am
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From: Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 05:46:55 -0700
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Subject: Re: #Race card

I just wish he'd rinse his socks out more than once a month before he
starts pounding that shoe.

 
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 More options Oct 28 2012, 8:52 am
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From: ozarkhe...@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 07:52:03 -0500
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Subject: Re: #Race card
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:14:48 +0000 (UTC), 3216 Dead <d...@gone.com>
wrote:

No,everyone should pay at the same rate.

 
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Klaus Schadenfreude  
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 More options Oct 28 2012, 9:05 am
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From: Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 06:05:38 -0700
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Subject: Re: #Race card

Forget it. You'll never convince leftists that everyone paying the
same rate is fair. They define "fair" much differently than normal
people.

Even though we know that by paying the same rate, rich people pay more
in taxes, that's not good enough for them.

Now they want to decide what is "discretionary." Can you imagine what
a clusterfuck THAT would be? The government deciding what you "need?"


 
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 More options Oct 28 2012, 9:54 am
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From: ozarkhe...@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:54:11 -0500
Local: Sun, Oct 28 2012 9:54 am
Subject: Re: #Race card
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 06:05:38 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude

That is exactly why I have issues with liberals - they do not believe
in the basic American tenets of freedom.

>Now they want to decide what is "discretionary." Can you imagine what
>a clusterfuck THAT would be? The government deciding what you "need?"

Amen

 
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 More options Oct 28 2012, 11:53 am
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From: 3216 Dead <d...@gone.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:53:52 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sun, Oct 28 2012 11:53 am
Subject: Re: #Race card

The most basic tenet is that the American people serve themselves, and
not rich masters.

Crawl and strut some more for us, bubbles.


 
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 More options Oct 28 2012, 11:59 am
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From: Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:59:15 -0700
Local: Sun, Oct 28 2012 11:59 am
Subject: Re: #Race card

"Serve themselves." WTF does that mean? How does that translate into
robbing people?

Wanna try again in English this time?

>>>Now they want to decide what is "discretionary." Can you imagine what a
>>>clusterfuck THAT would be? The government deciding what you "need?"

>> Amen

                            [crickets.wav]


 
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 More options Oct 28 2012, 12:13 pm
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From: Man of Mind <baron.von.m...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:13:26 -0500
Local: Sun, Oct 28 2012 12:13 pm
Subject: Re: #Race card
On 10/28/2012 10:59 AM, flawed shrieking fraud whined/opined:

> 3216 Dead replied with a simple concept:

>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:54:11 -0500, ozarkheart writhed in denials:
...
>>> That is exactly why I have issues with liberals - they do not
>>> believe in the basic American tenets of freedom.

>> The most basic tenet is that the American people serve themselves,
>> and not rich masters.

> "Serve themselves." WTF does that mean?

It means that 'freedom' is not equivalent to 'economic serfdom'..

--Why this simple concept escapes your comprehension is laughable..


 
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 More options Oct 28 2012, 12:17 pm
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From: SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:17:09 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Oct 28 2012 12:17 pm
Subject: Re: #Race card
On Oct 28, 1:17 am, Gray Guest <No_email_for_...@wahoo.com> wrote:

Hard not to do, isn't it?  Nevertheless, one is obliged to make the
effort.

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 More options Oct 28 2012, 12:19 pm
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From: SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:19:12 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Oct 28 2012 12:19 pm
Subject: Re: #Race card
On Oct 28, 1:19 am, Gray Guest <No_email_for_...@wahoo.com> wrote:

No one is threatening your life, liberty or pursuit of happiness,
cupcake.  Unless, of course, you perceive it that *our* pursuit of
those things threatens yours.

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
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 More options Oct 28 2012, 12:20 pm
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From: 3216 Dead <d...@gone.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:20:33 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sun, Oct 28 2012 12:20 pm
Subject: Re: #Race card

Well, if life's necessities were scaled to match, then it would be fair.  
If someone making ten times as much had to pay ten times as much for
bread, for shelter, for education, for everything else, then it would be
fair that he pay ten times as much for taxes.

But the over-entitled whiny rich American cunts can't even settle for the
fact that someone making $30,000 a year with no discretionary income pays
$4,000 in taxes whilst someone making $3 million a year with over two
million in discretionary income pays $400,000.  

But that's not enough for these greedy little cunts.  They reason that
they are paying one hundred times as much tax, and that's not right, just
because they are making hundreds of times as much more.  They want a HEAD
TAX: EVERYONE pays the same amount, regardless of income.

They don't know their history at all, of course.  But the cultivate
people even dumber and more ignorant to go out and spread their message
that taxing the rich more than the poor just isn't RIGHT!  Boo hoo hoo!


 
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 More options Oct 28 2012, 12:21 pm
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From: 3216 Dead <d...@gone.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:21:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: #Race card

Google "head tax"

 
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 More options Oct 28 2012, 12:21 pm
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From: ozarkhe...@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:21:10 -0500
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Subject: Re: #Race card
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:53:52 +0000 (UTC), 3216 Dead <d...@gone.com>
wrote:

And they don't. Why do you think they do?


 
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From: ozarkhe...@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:21:50 -0500
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Subject: Re: #Race card
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:13:26 -0500, Man of Mind

And exactly who do you believe is in a state of 'economic serfdom'?


 
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 More options Oct 28 2012, 12:54 pm
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From: ozarkhe...@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:54:26 -0500
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Subject: Re: #Race card
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:21:00 +0000 (UTC), 3216 Dead <d...@gone.com>
wrote:

Done. Nothing pertinent.

 
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 More options Oct 28 2012, 12:56 pm
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From: 3216 Dead <d...@gone.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:56:08 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: Re: #Race card

I predict Gary Glitter here is headed for a bad end if he doesn't get his
paranoia treated.

 
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From: ozarkhe...@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:59:02 -0500
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Subject: Re: #Race card
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:20:33 +0000 (UTC), 3216 Dead <d...@gone.com>
wrote:

And that in itself is "unfair". Who determines what are necessities?
The whole intent of freedom is to avoid just that type of socialistic
crap.

How about treating everybody ***equally***? Why do you seem to have a
problem with that?

>If someone making ten times as much had to pay ten times as much for
>bread, for shelter, for education, for everything else, then it would be
>fair that he pay ten times as much for taxes.

No it would not.

>But the over-entitled whiny rich American cunts can't even settle for the
>fact that someone making $30,000 a year with no discretionary income pays
>$4,000 in taxes whilst someone making $3 million a year with over two
>million in discretionary income pays $400,000.  

And who decides what is "discretionary?

>But that's not enough for these greedy little cunts.  They reason that
>they are paying one hundred times as much tax, and that's not right, just
>because they are making hundreds of times as much more.  They want a HEAD
>TAX: EVERYONE pays the same amount, regardless of income.

Wrong - and that is not what i said. Sad that you have to resort to
lies to try and make a statement.

>They don't know their history at all, of course.  But the cultivate
>people even dumber and more ignorant to go out and spread their message
>that taxing the rich more than the poor just isn't RIGHT!  Boo hoo hoo!

It isn't "right". It is the antithesis of freedom = aka socialism.


 
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 More options Oct 28 2012, 1:03 pm
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From: 3216 Dead <d...@gone.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:03:58 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sun, Oct 28 2012 1:03 pm
Subject: Re: #Race card

It doesn't, bubbles.  Quite the oppose, in fact.  It means the people
cannot be preyed upon by an overentitled aristocracy.

> Wanna try again in English this time?

It would be over your head no matter what language I used.


 
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From: 3216 Dead <d...@gone.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:07:04 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sun, Oct 28 2012 1:07 pm
Subject: Re: #Race card

Oh, how about one where the working and impoverished classes have the tax
burden to subsidize a government devoted to serving the rich?


 
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 More options Oct 28 2012, 1:12 pm
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Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:12:48 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sun, Oct 28 2012 1:12 pm
Subject: Re: #Race card
SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote in news:ed8635d0-5620-457a-bc3a-
1a815e29a...@i7g2000pbf.googlegroups.com:

Really? Becuase I have been hearing for decades from your side that you
can't. I guess unless it's YOUR morality.

Well, now that we have that out of the way... abortion is a moral choice,
doncha think? Making people, pay for abortions who are morally opposed to
it, violating thier morality?

Oops, you've opened a can of worms.

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From: Gray Guest <No_email_for_...@wahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:14:08 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sun, Oct 28 2012 1:14 pm
Subject: Re: #Race card
SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote in news:8b6ae241-fc4d-4720-adbd-
c6abe6d1c...@ph9g2000pbb.googlegroups.com:

That is your opinion. My reading of history says that people with your
point of view always end up killing people with my point of view.

Not this time.

> Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
> BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
> EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
> skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com

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