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Budikka666
May 19, 2012, 6:43:39 PM5/19/12
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http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sphere-is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
deep.
Budikka
No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
deep.
Budikka
Andrew
May 20, 2012, 3:17:20 PM5/20/12
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"Budikka666" wrote in message news:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
"And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
covered." v.19
That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
mountain peaks.
And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
straw man.
>
> Budikka
Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
Maker.
Andrew
> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sphere-is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
>
> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> miles deep.
Here is what happened..
>
> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> miles deep.
"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
"And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
covered." v.19
That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
mountain peaks.
And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
straw man.
>
> Budikka
Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
Maker.
Andrew
Free Lunch
May 20, 2012, 3:31:45 PM5/20/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 12:17:20 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>"Budikka666" wrote in message news:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sphere-is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
>>
>> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
>> miles deep.
>
>Here is what happened..
We know it did not happen, that Noah's Flood is a completely fictional
exaggeration about a small local flood.
>"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
>"And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
>That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
>mountain peaks.
Nope. Once again, you show us how proud you are of your ignorance and
your lack of knowledge about history and science. Your explanation about
fossils cannot be true, the physical evidence shows us that you are
wrong.
>And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
>to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
>straw man.
How did they grow in one year?
How many lies does your god need you to tell?
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>"Budikka666" wrote in message news:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sphere-is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
>>
>> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
>> miles deep.
>
>Here is what happened..
exaggeration about a small local flood.
>"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
>"And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
>That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
>mountain peaks.
your lack of knowledge about history and science. Your explanation about
fossils cannot be true, the physical evidence shows us that you are
wrong.
>And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
>to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
>straw man.
How many lies does your god need you to tell?
Ken
May 20, 2012, 3:33:41 PM5/20/12
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On May 20, 12:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
creatormaker, Fool?
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
>
>
>
> > Budikka
>
> Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
> posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
> you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
> Maker.
>
> Andrew
>
>
Now, how about ONE piece of ACTUAL evidence for your imaginary
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
>
>
>
> > Budikka
>
> Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
> posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
> you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
> Maker.
>
> Andrew
>
>
creatormaker, Fool?
Jeanne Douglas
May 20, 2012, 8:03:40 PM5/20/12
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In article <iO-dnWxVoMVm3yTS...@earthlink.com>,
years ago. Amazing.
--
JD
"the lybian lier"
"Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net> wrote:
> "Budikka666" wrote in message
> news:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> > http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sphere-is
> > -all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
> >
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
Wow. Andy-boy is saying that Der Floode happened hundreds of millions of
> "Budikka666" wrote in message
> news:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> > http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sphere-is
> > -all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
> >
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
years ago. Amazing.
--
JD
"the lybian lier"
Devils Advocaat
May 21, 2012, 12:26:09 AM5/21/12
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On May 20, 8:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
>
>
>
> > Budikka
>
> Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
> posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
> you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
> Maker.
>
> Andrew
Let's see, the words of an alleged deity, written down long after the
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
>
>
>
> > Budikka
>
> Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
> posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
> you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
> Maker.
>
> Andrew
alleged event.
Contemporary civilisations failed to notice the alleged event.
Geological evidence fails to support alleged event.
Ergo, said event never happened.
Which means alleged deity, if real, lied.
harry k
May 21, 2012, 12:38:42 AM5/21/12
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On May 20, 12:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
>
>
>
> > Budikka
>
> Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
> posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
> you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
> Maker.
>
> Andrew
A "few" problems. If you are refering to that famous "canopy", you
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
>
>
>
> > Budikka
>
> Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
> posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
> you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
> Maker.
>
> Andrew
nuts have been told by AIG to quit using it as it can't be made to
work.
Had there been a canopy holding enough water to add significantly to
the flood, the earth would have been in total darkness 24/7 prior to
the flood.
Where did the water go after the flood? And please don't display your
ignorance with the usual "drained into the deeps' Those deeps were
already overfull with water 'covering the highest hills'.
Harry K
Joe Bruno
May 21, 2012, 12:45:21 AM5/21/12
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On Sunday, May 20, 2012 12:17:20 PM UTC-7, Andrew wrote:
> "Budikka666" wrote in message news:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> > http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sphere-is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
> >
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
What about Mt Everest, which is over 27,000 feet high????
> "Budikka666" wrote in message news:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> > http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sphere-is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
> >
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
Joe Bruno
May 21, 2012, 12:50:04 AM5/21/12
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The story happened thousands of years ago.
Geologists know that Earth was completely covered by a vast ocean before dry land appeared.
Joe Bruno
May 21, 2012, 12:54:00 AM5/21/12
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Joe Bruno
May 21, 2012, 3:47:24 AM5/21/12
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knows that.The book of Genesis may have been the last in a long line of chronicles of the flood.
>
> Contemporary civilisations failed to notice the alleged event.
BULLSHIT:
> Contemporary civilisations failed to notice the alleged event.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html
>
Wombat
May 21, 2012, 5:20:29 AM5/21/12
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On May 20, 9:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
So the Andes, Rockies, Appalachians, Himalayas, Alps, Apennines,
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
Carpathians, Pyrenees, Atlas and many, many other ranges did not exist
before Ye Floode?
Back in 1964 there was a magnitude 9.2 earthquake in Alaska. Along
some miles of the coast the land was thrust up by about 20 feet. To
raise mountain ranges throughout the world in the months or years
after Ye Floode there would need to be MANY magnitude 9 earthquakes,
so many that the
Earth would have rung like a bell. Are you really that stupid? Don't
you think that might have rated a mention in the Bible?
Wombat
May 21, 2012, 5:23:03 AM5/21/12
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banner!
Devils Advocaat
May 21, 2012, 6:08:35 AM5/21/12
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> Andrew picks up the "Floode"
> banner!
Andrew
May 21, 2012, 8:01:27 AM5/21/12
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"Joe Bruno" wrote in message news:1836099d-fe68-4813...@googlegroups.com...
>Andrew wrote:
and seashells, clearly showing that it is made of rock that
was once under water.
And why do you assume that it's current height would be
the same as it's antediluvian height..ignoring the massive
tectonic upheavals which had to occur for such an event
to take place?
>Andrew wrote:
>> "Budikka666" wrote:
>> > http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sphere-is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
>> >
>> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
>> > miles deep.
>>
>> Here is what happened..
>>
>> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
>> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
>> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
>> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
>> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>>
>> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
>> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
>> covered." v.19
>>
>> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
>> mountain peaks.
>>
>> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
>> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
>> strawman.
>
>
> What about Mt Everest, which is over 27,000 feet high????
Explain how its higher parts contain fossils of sea creatures
>> > http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sphere-is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
>> >
>> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
>> > miles deep.
>>
>> Here is what happened..
>>
>> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
>> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
>> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
>> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
>> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>>
>> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
>> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
>> covered." v.19
>>
>> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
>> mountain peaks.
>>
>> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
>> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
>> strawman.
>
>
> What about Mt Everest, which is over 27,000 feet high????
and seashells, clearly showing that it is made of rock that
was once under water.
And why do you assume that it's current height would be
the same as it's antediluvian height..ignoring the massive
tectonic upheavals which had to occur for such an event
to take place?
Andrew
May 21, 2012, 8:20:07 AM5/21/12
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"Wombat" wrote in message news:b2c1bc16-db95-43de...@b1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> "Andrew" wrote:
> Back in 1964 there was a magnitude 9.2 earthquake in Alaska. Along
> some miles of the coast the land was thrust up by about 20 feet. To
> raise mountain ranges throughout the world in the months or years
> after Ye Floode there would need to be MANY magnitude 9 earthquakes,
Why do you assume such a massive geologic event had to be limited
by forces that we see today?
> "Andrew" wrote:
>> "Budikka666" wrote:
>> > http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>>
>> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
>> > miles deep.
>>
>> Here is what happened..
>>
>> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
>> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
>> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
>> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
>> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>>
>> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
>> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
>> covered." v.19
>>
>> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
>> mountain peaks.
>>
>> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
>> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
>> straw man.
>
> So the Andes, Rockies, Appalachians, Himalayas, Alps, Apennines,
> Carpathians, Pyrenees, Atlas and many, many other ranges did not exist
> before Ye Floode?
Not as they do now.
>> > http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>>
>> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
>> > miles deep.
>>
>> Here is what happened..
>>
>> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
>> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
>> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
>> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
>> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>>
>> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
>> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
>> covered." v.19
>>
>> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
>> mountain peaks.
>>
>> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
>> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
>> straw man.
>
> So the Andes, Rockies, Appalachians, Himalayas, Alps, Apennines,
> Carpathians, Pyrenees, Atlas and many, many other ranges did not exist
> before Ye Floode?
> Back in 1964 there was a magnitude 9.2 earthquake in Alaska. Along
> some miles of the coast the land was thrust up by about 20 feet. To
> raise mountain ranges throughout the world in the months or years
> after Ye Floode there would need to be MANY magnitude 9 earthquakes,
by forces that we see today?
Neil Kelsey
May 21, 2012, 8:17:55 AM5/21/12
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On Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:43:39 PM UTC-7, Budikka666 wrote:
Mitchell Holman
May 21, 2012, 8:59:14 AM5/21/12
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Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote in
news:55f122cb-39c8-4a98...@googlegroups.com:
Not in the late Bronze age as the
Bible describes, it wasn't.
news:55f122cb-39c8-4a98...@googlegroups.com:
Bible describes, it wasn't.
Mitchell Holman
May 21, 2012, 9:08:15 AM5/21/12
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"Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net> wrote in
news:HNudnQKjv6jMsyfS...@earthlink.com:
The Indian plate collides with the Asian plate
and the shallow sea that was once between them are
pushed up to become the Himalayan mountains.
Which are still rising, by the way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himalayas
news:HNudnQKjv6jMsyfS...@earthlink.com:
and the shallow sea that was once between them are
pushed up to become the Himalayan mountains.
Which are still rising, by the way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himalayas
Ken
May 21, 2012, 9:08:32 AM5/21/12
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On May 21, 5:20 am, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote: nothing
worth repeating
Got ANY "real" evidence of ANYTHING you keep claiming other than
"Because I said so", Fool?
worth repeating
Got ANY "real" evidence of ANYTHING you keep claiming other than
"Because I said so", Fool?
Wombat
May 21, 2012, 9:20:56 AM5/21/12
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On May 21, 2:20 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Wombat" wrote in messagenews:b2c1bc16-db95-43de...@b1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
How did it happen then?
<snip>
> "Wombat" wrote in messagenews:b2c1bc16-db95-43de...@b1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
<snip>
Joe Bruno
May 21, 2012, 9:31:12 AM5/21/12
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Mitchell Holman
May 21, 2012, 9:48:02 AM5/21/12
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Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote in
news:85d1b1e4-5149-48a7...@googlegroups.com:
Devils Advocaat
May 21, 2012, 9:48:06 AM5/21/12
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On May 20, 8:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
Given this alleged flood happened, why don't we find fossils of
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
aquatic and terrestrial organisms all mixed up together?
Joe Bruno
May 21, 2012, 9:26:54 AM5/21/12
to
discovered such fossils?The summit is covered in deep snow and ice year round
because it's so cold up there.Did anyone dig down thru the deep snow and find these fossils?
>
> And why do you assume that it's current height would be
> the same as it's antediluvian height..ignoring the massive
> tectonic upheavals which had to occur for such an event
> to take place?
Andes and the Caucasus that are almost as high as Everest.There is Mt McKinley
in Washington state.
Mike Lovell
May 21, 2012, 10:51:56 AM5/21/12
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On 2012-05-21, Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote:
> Can you prove that?Have any of the numerous expeditions to the top of Everest
> discovered such fossils?The summit is covered in deep snow and ice year round
> because it's so cold up there.Did anyone dig down thru the deep snow and find these fossils?
Shit man, that's a bit of a big ask! :-)
> Can you prove that?Have any of the numerous expeditions to the top of Everest
> discovered such fossils?The summit is covered in deep snow and ice year round
> because it's so cold up there.Did anyone dig down thru the deep snow and find these fossils?
With the ascent and descent taken into account you're lucky to spend 15
minutes up the top.
I'm not sure you'd find many takers to hump a load of digging equipment
up there and look for fossils.
If you cover the $40k for me though, I'll come with you. But I'll be
leaving you on the summit for the dig, see you back down the bottom.
> [...]
--
Jews, Christians & Muslims
The content of your posts will show how much you
really believe God is looking over your shoulder
harry k
May 21, 2012, 11:14:59 AM5/21/12
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On May 21, 6:31 am, Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Monday, May 21, 2012 5:59:14 AM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote in
> On Monday, May 21, 2012 5:59:14 AM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote:
enough rain to cover the highes hillss?
Where did it go afterwards?
Harry K
Joe Bruno
May 21, 2012, 11:17:24 AM5/21/12
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On Monday, May 21, 2012 6:48:02 AM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote in
> news:85d1b1e4-5149-48a7...@googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Monday, May 21, 2012 5:59:14 AM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >> Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote in
> >> news:55f122cb-39c8-4a98...@googlegroups.com:
> >>
> >> > On Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:43:39 PM UTC-7, Budikka666 wrote:
> >> >> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-
> >> >> sph ere-is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
> >> >>
> >> >> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> >> >> deep.
> >> >>
> >> >> Budikka
> >> >
> >> > The amount of water on Earth today is quite irrelevant.
> >> > The story happened thousands of years ago.
> >> >
> >> > Geologists know that Earth was completely covered by a vast ocean
> >> > before dry land appeared.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Not in the late Bronze age as the
> >> Bible describes, it wasn't.
> >
> > The point I made is that there is and was enough water to cover the
> > Earth and always has been.God did not rely on standing water to cover
> > the Earth-He made it rain.
> >
>
>
> So where did the Noah flood water go?
Lots of it evaporated, of course, as part of the normal Earth cycle.
> Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote in
> news:85d1b1e4-5149-48a7...@googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Monday, May 21, 2012 5:59:14 AM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >> Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote in
> >> news:55f122cb-39c8-4a98...@googlegroups.com:
> >>
> >> > On Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:43:39 PM UTC-7, Budikka666 wrote:
> >> >> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-
> >> >> sph ere-is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
> >> >>
> >> >> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> >> >> deep.
> >> >>
> >> >> Budikka
> >> >
> >> > The amount of water on Earth today is quite irrelevant.
> >> > The story happened thousands of years ago.
> >> >
> >> > Geologists know that Earth was completely covered by a vast ocean
> >> > before dry land appeared.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Not in the late Bronze age as the
> >> Bible describes, it wasn't.
> >
> > The point I made is that there is and was enough water to cover the
> > Earth and always has been.God did not rely on standing water to cover
> > the Earth-He made it rain.
> >
>
>
> So where did the Noah flood water go?
The Earth was once covered by a vast ocean. Where did that water go?
Joe Bruno
May 21, 2012, 11:25:25 AM5/21/12
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On Monday, May 21, 2012 7:51:56 AM UTC-7, Mike Lovell wrote:
> On 2012-05-21, Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote:
> > Can you prove that?Have any of the numerous expeditions to the top of Everest
> > discovered such fossils?The summit is covered in deep snow and ice year round
> > because it's so cold up there.Did anyone dig down thru the deep snow and find these fossils?
>
> Shit man, that's a bit of a big ask! :-)
>
> With the ascent and descent taken into account you're lucky to spend 15
> minutes up the top.
>
> I'm not sure you'd find many takers to hump a load of digging equipment
> up there and look for fossils.
Besides, the Yeti, the Abominable Snowman,who has been seen up there, might get really pissed and start
> On 2012-05-21, Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote:
> > Can you prove that?Have any of the numerous expeditions to the top of Everest
> > discovered such fossils?The summit is covered in deep snow and ice year round
> > because it's so cold up there.Did anyone dig down thru the deep snow and find these fossils?
>
> Shit man, that's a bit of a big ask! :-)
>
> With the ascent and descent taken into account you're lucky to spend 15
> minutes up the top.
>
> I'm not sure you'd find many takers to hump a load of digging equipment
> up there and look for fossils.
killing people.
>
>
> If you cover the $40k for me though, I'll come with you. But I'll be
> leaving you on the summit for the dig, see you back down the bottom.
>
> > [...]
I'd like to see the Everest summit.The other thing I've always wanted to do
>
> If you cover the $40k for me though, I'll come with you. But I'll be
> leaving you on the summit for the dig, see you back down the bottom.
>
> > [...]
is go around the Horn at the tip of South America in a square-rigger.
>
> --
Wombat
May 21, 2012, 11:28:01 AM5/21/12
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Wombat
May 21, 2012, 11:25:46 AM5/21/12
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On May 21, 3:48 pm, Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 20, 8:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> > >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > > miles deep.
>
> > Here is what happened..
>
> > "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> > the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> > fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> > heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> > days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> > "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> > all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> > covered." v.19
>
> > That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> > mountain peaks.
>
> Given this alleged flood happened, why don't we find fossils of
> aquatic and terrestrial organisms all mixed up together?
While he's at it, he can explain why whale fossils are never found in
> On May 20, 8:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> > >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > > miles deep.
>
> > Here is what happened..
>
> > "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> > the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> > fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> > heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> > days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> > "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> > all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> > covered." v.19
>
> > That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> > mountain peaks.
>
> Given this alleged flood happened, why don't we find fossils of
> aquatic and terrestrial organisms all mixed up together?
the same layer as mosasaurs. That is one question Jason dodged
answering.
walksalone
May 21, 2012, 11:29:08 AM5/21/12
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harry k <turnk...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:e45f7784-591f-4a17...@e9g2000pbh.googlegroups.com:
> On May 21, 6:31 am, Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Monday, May 21, 2012 5:59:14 AM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> > Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote in
>> >news:55f122cb-39c8-4a98...@googlegroups.com:
snip
>> The point I made is that there is and was enough water to cover the
>> Earth
> and always has been.God did not rely on standing water to cover the
> Earth-He made it rain.
> Rain comes from existing water. Where did the water come from for
> enough rain to cover the highes hillss?
Out of those windows in the firmament, or a really weak bladder shared by
the heavenly host
> Where did it go afterwards?
Just how vivid is your imagination?
Back through those windows in the firmament, or do you really want to
know. Hot lemonade anyone?
walkslaone who has to smile at the ignorance of fundies when it comes to
science.
Waters from the deep, where are the new oceans from the crust caving in.
& water run downhill, so how fast was it being pumped out to prevent it
from becoming a negative flow.
From somewhen & where on the web.
MINI-FAQ: Psalms 14:1
"The fool has said in his heart, 'There is no God.' They are corrupt,
they have done abominable works, there is none that does good." (Psalms
14:1)
ad hominem fallacy: An argument is discounted based on attacking the
character of the person making the argument. ("He is wrong when he says
there is no God, because he is a fool.")
strawman fallacy: Arguing against a position by creating a different,
weaker, or irrelevant position and refuting that position instead of the
original. ("There is no God" misrepresents "There isn't sufficient
evidence that God exists.")
circular reasoning: The truth of the conclusion is assumed in order to
justify the premises. ("The fool says there is no God, because anyone who
says there is no God is a fool.")
begging the question: The argument creates a secondary proposition that
is related to the primary proposition, which requires a similar argument
that is missing. (The existence of God is assumed, while addressing
propositions of whether God exists.)
fallacy of inconsistency: The argument is inconsistent with other
arguments within the same context.
In the Christian context, Jesus commands against the invective in Psalms
14:1, warning that "whoever says 'You fool!' shall be liable to the hell
of fire" in Matthew 5:22.
special pleading: The inappropriate attribution of emotive functions to
objects that do not have that capability. (Hearts are not capable of
"knowing" or of feeling emotions.)
redundancy: Psalm 53 is identical to Psalm 14.
questionable premise: It is obviously not the case that all atheists do
nothing but bad deeds. This premise is invalidated by a single example of
an atheist doing a single charitable act.
news:e45f7784-591f-4a17...@e9g2000pbh.googlegroups.com:
> On May 21, 6:31 am, Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Monday, May 21, 2012 5:59:14 AM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> > Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote in
>> >news:55f122cb-39c8-4a98...@googlegroups.com:
>> The point I made is that there is and was enough water to cover the
>> Earth
> and always has been.God did not rely on standing water to cover the
> Earth-He made it rain.
> Rain comes from existing water. Where did the water come from for
> enough rain to cover the highes hillss?
the heavenly host
> Where did it go afterwards?
Back through those windows in the firmament, or do you really want to
know. Hot lemonade anyone?
walkslaone who has to smile at the ignorance of fundies when it comes to
science.
Waters from the deep, where are the new oceans from the crust caving in.
& water run downhill, so how fast was it being pumped out to prevent it
from becoming a negative flow.
From somewhen & where on the web.
MINI-FAQ: Psalms 14:1
"The fool has said in his heart, 'There is no God.' They are corrupt,
they have done abominable works, there is none that does good." (Psalms
14:1)
ad hominem fallacy: An argument is discounted based on attacking the
character of the person making the argument. ("He is wrong when he says
there is no God, because he is a fool.")
strawman fallacy: Arguing against a position by creating a different,
weaker, or irrelevant position and refuting that position instead of the
original. ("There is no God" misrepresents "There isn't sufficient
evidence that God exists.")
circular reasoning: The truth of the conclusion is assumed in order to
justify the premises. ("The fool says there is no God, because anyone who
says there is no God is a fool.")
begging the question: The argument creates a secondary proposition that
is related to the primary proposition, which requires a similar argument
that is missing. (The existence of God is assumed, while addressing
propositions of whether God exists.)
fallacy of inconsistency: The argument is inconsistent with other
arguments within the same context.
In the Christian context, Jesus commands against the invective in Psalms
14:1, warning that "whoever says 'You fool!' shall be liable to the hell
of fire" in Matthew 5:22.
special pleading: The inappropriate attribution of emotive functions to
objects that do not have that capability. (Hearts are not capable of
"knowing" or of feeling emotions.)
redundancy: Psalm 53 is identical to Psalm 14.
questionable premise: It is obviously not the case that all atheists do
nothing but bad deeds. This premise is invalidated by a single example of
an atheist doing a single charitable act.
Waldo Tunnel
May 21, 2012, 11:31:42 AM5/21/12
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On May 20, 9:50 pm, Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:43:39 PM UTC-7, Budikka666 wrote:
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
> On Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:43:39 PM UTC-7, Budikka666 wrote:
>
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> > deep.
>
> > Budikka
>
> The amount of water on Earth today is quite irrelevant.
> The story happened thousands of years ago.
>
> Geologists know that Earth was completely covered by a vast ocean before dry land appeared.
Horse crap.
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> > deep.
>
> > Budikka
>
> The amount of water on Earth today is quite irrelevant.
> The story happened thousands of years ago.
>
> Geologists know that Earth was completely covered by a vast ocean before dry land appeared.
Waldo Tunnel
May 21, 2012, 11:32:53 AM5/21/12
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On May 21, 6:31 am, Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Monday, May 21, 2012 5:59:14 AM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote in
> >news:55f122cb-39c8-4a98...@googlegroups.com:
>
> > > On Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:43:39 PM UTC-7, Budikka666 wrote:
> > >>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sph
> > >> ere-is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
>
> > >> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> > >> deep.
>
> > >> Budikka
>
> > > The amount of water on Earth today is quite irrelevant.
> > > The story happened thousands of years ago.
>
> > > Geologists know that Earth was completely covered by a vast ocean
> > > before dry land appeared.
>
> > Not in the late Bronze age as the
> > Bible describes, it wasn't.
>
> The point I made is that there is and was enough water to cover the Earth and always has been.
Ah. Because you say so. I guess it must be true then.
>
> > > On Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:43:39 PM UTC-7, Budikka666 wrote:
> > >>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sph
> > >> ere-is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
>
> > >> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> > >> deep.
>
> > >> Budikka
>
> > > The amount of water on Earth today is quite irrelevant.
> > > The story happened thousands of years ago.
>
> > > Geologists know that Earth was completely covered by a vast ocean
> > > before dry land appeared.
>
> > Not in the late Bronze age as the
> > Bible describes, it wasn't.
>
> The point I made is that there is and was enough water to cover the Earth and always has been.
Idiot.
harry k
May 21, 2012, 10:55:10 AM5/21/12
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On May 20, 12:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > miles deep.
>
> > miles deep.
>
> Here is what happened..
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
Please describe for us the process that caused ocean creatures to be
>
> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
>
fossilised and encased in rock in only a year.
<snip>
Harry K
Devils Advocaat
May 21, 2012, 11:37:01 AM5/21/12
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flood.
> Nobody in Judaism
> knows that.
See above.
> The book of Genesis may have been the last in a long line of chronicles of the flood.
>
Before Moses wrote the Pentatuech there were no chronicles.
At least according to rabbinic tradition.
>
> > Contemporary civilisations failed to notice the alleged event.
>
> BULLSHIT:
>
> http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html
>
These flood myths don't support your flood myth.
> > Contemporary civilisations failed to notice the alleged event.
>
> BULLSHIT:
>
> http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html
>
Why? It's simples.
They all disagree on:
1) who caused the flood.
2) why the flood happened.
3) how long the flood lasted.
4) who survived the flood.
5) how they survived the flood.
... and so on.
A complete lack of corroboration.
>
>
>
>
>
>
Waldo Tunnel
May 21, 2012, 11:41:35 AM5/21/12
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On May 21, 8:17 am, Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
[...]
> > >God did not rely on standing water to cover
> > > the Earth-He made it rain.
>
> > So where did the Noah flood water go?
>
> Lots of it evaporated,
Hahahaha! No kidding.
> of course, as part of the normal Earth cycle.
Yeah. Evaporated into outer space "as part of the normal Earth
cycle." What a dope.
> The Earth was once covered by a vast ocean.
How could anybody be this dumb? This must be the real Bruno.
[...]
> > > The point I made is that there is and was enough water to cover the
> > > Earth and always has been.
Baloney. Prove it.
> > > Earth and always has been.
> > >God did not rely on standing water to cover
> > > the Earth-He made it rain.
>
> > So where did the Noah flood water go?
>
> Lots of it evaporated,
> of course, as part of the normal Earth cycle.
cycle." What a dope.
> The Earth was once covered by a vast ocean.
Neil Kelsey
May 21, 2012, 12:10:01 PM5/21/12
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> The Earth was once covered by a vast ocean.
> Where did that water go?
Mike Lovell
May 21, 2012, 12:15:09 PM5/21/12
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On 2012-05-21, Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Monday, May 21, 2012 7:51:56 AM UTC-7, Mike Lovell wrote:
>> On 2012-05-21, Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > Can you prove that?Have any of the numerous expeditions to the top of Everest
>> > discovered such fossils?The summit is covered in deep snow and ice year round
>> > because it's so cold up there.Did anyone dig down thru the deep snow and find these fossils?
>>
>> Shit man, that's a bit of a big ask! :-)
>>
>> With the ascent and descent taken into account you're lucky to spend 15
>> minutes up the top.
>>
>> I'm not sure you'd find many takers to hump a load of digging equipment
>> up there and look for fossils.
>
> Besides, the Yeti, the Abominable Snowman,who has been seen up there, might get really pissed and start
> killing people.
I would too if I was having a kip under some snow and I got a spade in
> On Monday, May 21, 2012 7:51:56 AM UTC-7, Mike Lovell wrote:
>> On 2012-05-21, Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > Can you prove that?Have any of the numerous expeditions to the top of Everest
>> > discovered such fossils?The summit is covered in deep snow and ice year round
>> > because it's so cold up there.Did anyone dig down thru the deep snow and find these fossils?
>>
>> Shit man, that's a bit of a big ask! :-)
>>
>> With the ascent and descent taken into account you're lucky to spend 15
>> minutes up the top.
>>
>> I'm not sure you'd find many takers to hump a load of digging equipment
>> up there and look for fossils.
>
> Besides, the Yeti, the Abominable Snowman,who has been seen up there, might get really pissed and start
> killing people.
the head.
>> If you cover the $40k for me though, I'll come with you. But I'll be
>> leaving you on the summit for the dig, see you back down the bottom.
>>
>> > [...]
>
> I'd like to see the Everest summit.The other thing I've always wanted to do
> is go around the Horn at the tip of South America in a square-rigger.
Devils Advocaat
May 21, 2012, 4:23:27 AM5/21/12
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On May 21, 8:47 am, Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:26:09 PM UTC-7, Devils Advocaat wrote:
> > On May 20, 8:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> > > "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> > > >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> On Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:26:09 PM UTC-7, Devils Advocaat wrote:
> > On May 20, 8:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> > > "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> > > >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > > > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > > > miles deep.
>
> > > > miles deep.
>
> > > Here is what happened..
>
> > > "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> > > the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> > > fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> > > heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> > > days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> > > "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> > > all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> > > covered." v.19
>
> > > That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> > > mountain peaks.
>
> > > And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> > > to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> > > straw man.
>
> > > > Budikka
>
> > > Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
> > > posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
> > > you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
> > > Maker.
>
> > > Andrew
>
> > Let's see, the words of an alleged deity, written down long after the
> > alleged event.
>
> How do you know who was the first to chronicle the flood?Nobody in Judaism
>
> > > "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> > > the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> > > fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> > > heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> > > days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> > > "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> > > all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> > > covered." v.19
>
> > > That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> > > mountain peaks.
>
> > > And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> > > to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> > > straw man.
>
> > > > Budikka
>
> > > Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
> > > posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
> > > you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
> > > Maker.
>
> > > Andrew
>
> > Let's see, the words of an alleged deity, written down long after the
> > alleged event.
>
> knows that.The book of Genesis may have been the last in a long line of chronicles of the flood.
>
Chronicles are *written* accounts, and rabbinic tradition holds Moses
was the first person to write down the story of the flood. So you're
being dishonest when you say nobody knows.
>
> > Contemporary civilisations failed to notice the alleged event.
>
> BULLSHIT:
>
> http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html
>
Trying to use myths of other cultures and religions as evidence that
> > Contemporary civilisations failed to notice the alleged event.
>
> BULLSHIT:
>
> http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html
>
your flood myth relates to a real event makes you look even more
foolish. They fail to corroborate key points, such as who caused it,
why it happened, how long it lasted, who survived, how they survived,
and so on.
>
>
>
>
>
>
harry k
May 21, 2012, 11:13:34 AM5/21/12
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On May 20, 9:54 pm, Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
From your own cite:
--------------------------------
A new model of the early Earth suggests that until around 2.5 billion
years ago oceans covered almost the whole of the planet.
Just 2% to 3% of the Earth's surface would have been dry land,
compared with 28% today.
---------------------------------
So just what does something that happened 2.5 billion years ago have
to do with something sthat happened "thousands of years ago" (your
words)??
Enough water to cover the highes hills? Where did it go? Remembe
you only have a few thousand years to work with to get rid of it.
Harry K
Harry K
> On Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:50:04 PM UTC-7, Joe Bruno wrote:
> > On Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:43:39 PM UTC-7, Budikka666 wrote:
> > On Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:43:39 PM UTC-7, Budikka666 wrote:
> > >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> > > deep.
>
>
> > > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> > > deep.
>
> > > Budikka
>
> > The amount of water on Earth today is quite irrelevant.
> > The story happened thousands of years ago.
>
> > Geologists know that Earth was completely covered by a vast ocean before dry land appeared.
>
> http://www.earthdive.com/site/news/newsdetail.asp?changedate=true&cha...
>
> > The amount of water on Earth today is quite irrelevant.
> > The story happened thousands of years ago.
>
> > Geologists know that Earth was completely covered by a vast ocean before dry land appeared.
>
From your own cite:
--------------------------------
A new model of the early Earth suggests that until around 2.5 billion
years ago oceans covered almost the whole of the planet.
Just 2% to 3% of the Earth's surface would have been dry land,
compared with 28% today.
---------------------------------
So just what does something that happened 2.5 billion years ago have
to do with something sthat happened "thousands of years ago" (your
words)??
Enough water to cover the highes hills? Where did it go? Remembe
you only have a few thousand years to work with to get rid of it.
Harry K
Harry K
WangoTango
May 21, 2012, 1:27:27 PM5/21/12
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In article <iO-dnWxVoMVm3yTS...@earthlink.com>,
andrew....@usa.net says...
Then again, you don't care.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
The mountains are millions of years old, so they were there for any
period of time that humans walked the Earth.
Being willfully ignorant isn't any way to go through life.
andrew....@usa.net says...
> covered." v.19
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
No, it's not, and any first year geology student can tell you way.
>
> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> mountain peaks.
Then again, you don't care.
>
> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> straw man.
period of time that humans walked the Earth.
Being willfully ignorant isn't any way to go through life.
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May 21, 2012, 2:09:21 PM5/21/12
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Joe Bruno
May 21, 2012, 2:14:42 PM5/21/12
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On Monday, May 21, 2012 10:58:09 AM UTC-7, Robert Parker wrote:
> On Mon, 21 May 2012 08:14:59 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnk...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> time. If the earth were a smooth ball, then water would cover the entire
> planet. But it would require all the mountains to be placed in the deepest
> seas.
http://www.earthdive.com/site/news/newsdetail.asp?changedate=true&changeyear=2009&id=2821
> >>
> On Mon, 21 May 2012 08:14:59 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnk...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On May 21, 6:31�am, Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Monday, May 21, 2012 5:59:14 AM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >> > Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote in
> >> >news:55f122cb-39c8-4a98...@googlegroups.com:
> >>
> >> > > On Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:43:39 PM UTC-7, Budikka666 wrote:
> >> > >>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sph
> >> > >> ere-is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
> >>
> >> > >> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> >> > >> deep.
> >>
> >> > >> Budikka
> >>
> >> > > The amount of water on Earth today is quite irrelevant.
> >> > > The story happened thousands of years ago.
> >>
> >> > > Geologists know that Earth was completely covered by a vast ocean
> >> > > before dry land appeared.
>
> Not true, at some time all of the land was under water, but not at the same
> >On May 21, 6:31�am, Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Monday, May 21, 2012 5:59:14 AM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >> > Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote in
> >> >news:55f122cb-39c8-4a98...@googlegroups.com:
> >>
> >> > > On Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:43:39 PM UTC-7, Budikka666 wrote:
> >> > >>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sph
> >> > >> ere-is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
> >>
> >> > >> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> >> > >> deep.
> >>
> >> > >> Budikka
> >>
> >> > > The amount of water on Earth today is quite irrelevant.
> >> > > The story happened thousands of years ago.
> >>
> >> > > Geologists know that Earth was completely covered by a vast ocean
> >> > > before dry land appeared.
>
> time. If the earth were a smooth ball, then water would cover the entire
> planet. But it would require all the mountains to be placed in the deepest
> seas.
http://www.earthdive.com/site/news/newsdetail.asp?changedate=true&changeyear=2009&id=2821
> >>
Joe Bruno
May 21, 2012, 2:13:20 PM5/21/12
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On Monday, May 21, 2012 9:15:09 AM UTC-7, Mike Lovell wrote:
> On 2012-05-21, Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Monday, May 21, 2012 7:51:56 AM UTC-7, Mike Lovell wrote:
> >> On 2012-05-21, Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> > Can you prove that?Have any of the numerous expeditions to the top of Everest
> >> > discovered such fossils?The summit is covered in deep snow and ice year round
> >> > because it's so cold up there.Did anyone dig down thru the deep snow and find these fossils?
> >>
> >> Shit man, that's a bit of a big ask! :-)
> >>
> >> With the ascent and descent taken into account you're lucky to spend 15
> >> minutes up the top.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure you'd find many takers to hump a load of digging equipment
> >> up there and look for fossils.
> >
> > Besides, the Yeti, the Abominable Snowman,who has been seen up there, might get really pissed and start
> > killing people.
>
> I would too if I was having a kip under some snow and I got a spade in
> the head.
>
> >> If you cover the $40k for me though, I'll come with you. But I'll be
> >> leaving you on the summit for the dig, see you back down the bottom.
> >>
> >> > [...]
> >
> > I'd like to see the Everest summit.The other thing I've always wanted to do
> > is go around the Horn at the tip of South America in a square-rigger.
>
> Great, you pay and we'll do both
I actually don't want company on those journeys.I want to be alone with
> On 2012-05-21, Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Monday, May 21, 2012 7:51:56 AM UTC-7, Mike Lovell wrote:
> >> On 2012-05-21, Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> > Can you prove that?Have any of the numerous expeditions to the top of Everest
> >> > discovered such fossils?The summit is covered in deep snow and ice year round
> >> > because it's so cold up there.Did anyone dig down thru the deep snow and find these fossils?
> >>
> >> Shit man, that's a bit of a big ask! :-)
> >>
> >> With the ascent and descent taken into account you're lucky to spend 15
> >> minutes up the top.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure you'd find many takers to hump a load of digging equipment
> >> up there and look for fossils.
> >
> > Besides, the Yeti, the Abominable Snowman,who has been seen up there, might get really pissed and start
> > killing people.
>
> I would too if I was having a kip under some snow and I got a spade in
> the head.
>
> >> If you cover the $40k for me though, I'll come with you. But I'll be
> >> leaving you on the summit for the dig, see you back down the bottom.
> >>
> >> > [...]
> >
> > I'd like to see the Everest summit.The other thing I've always wanted to do
> > is go around the Horn at the tip of South America in a square-rigger.
>
> Great, you pay and we'll do both
Mom Nature.
>
> --
Devils Advocaat
May 21, 2012, 2:19:22 PM5/21/12
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Joe Bruno
May 21, 2012, 2:20:14 PM5/21/12
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Talmud.The Talmud is Rabbinic law.
>
Mike Lovell
May 21, 2012, 2:27:19 PM5/21/12
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On 2012-05-21, Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote:
> I actually don't want company on those journeys.I want to be alone with
> Mom Nature.
Well the boat trip I can understand, but you're going to climb
> I actually don't want company on those journeys.I want to be alone with
> Mom Nature.
Everest solo unassisted?
You'll never make it, you need me man YOU NEED ME!!!
Oh and on the boat trip what about if I just sit in the corner quietly?
Devils Advocaat
May 21, 2012, 2:48:17 PM5/21/12
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Pentatuech it's logical that this would include the flood story.
And given that you are supposed to be the resident Jew then you should
be familiar with rabbinic tradition.
>
>
>
>
>
>
Wombat
May 21, 2012, 3:39:24 PM5/21/12
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Devils Advocaat
May 21, 2012, 3:50:07 PM5/21/12
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duke
May 21, 2012, 4:02:34 PM5/21/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 12:17:20 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net> wrote:
>"Budikka666" wrote in message news:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sphere-is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
speed bump.
duke - American American
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Vote Republican in 2012
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>"Budikka666" wrote in message news:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sphere-is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
>>
>> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
>> miles deep.
>
>Here is what happened..
>
>"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
>"And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
>That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
>mountain peaks.
>
>And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
>to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
>straw man.
>
>>
>> Budikka
>
>Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
>posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
>you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
>Maker.
Bud da dud de caca still doesn't get it that Mt Everest was at one time just a
>> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
>> miles deep.
>
>Here is what happened..
>
>"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
>"And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> covered." v.19
>
>That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
>mountain peaks.
>
>And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
>to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
>straw man.
>
>>
>> Budikka
>
>Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
>posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
>you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
>Maker.
speed bump.
duke - American American
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2012 - end of an error
Vote Republican in 2012
*****
duke
May 21, 2012, 4:04:23 PM5/21/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 21:26:09 -0700 (PDT), Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On May 20, 8:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
>> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>>
happened.
>Geological evidence fails to support alleged event.
Spaced based radar has found buried pyramids and villages under the drifting
sands.
>
>Ergo, said event never happened.
>
>Which means alleged deity, if real, lied.
wrote:
>On May 20, 8:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
>> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>>
>> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
>> > miles deep.
>>
>> Here is what happened..
>>
>> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
>> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
>> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
>> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
>> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>>
>> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
>> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
>> covered." v.19
>>
>> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
>> mountain peaks.
>>
>> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
>> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
>> straw man.
>>
>>
>>
>> > Budikka
>>
>> Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
>> posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
>> you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
>> Maker.
>>
>> > miles deep.
>>
>> Here is what happened..
>>
>> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
>> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
>> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
>> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
>> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>>
>> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
>> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
>> covered." v.19
>>
>> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
>> mountain peaks.
>>
>> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
>> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
>> straw man.
>>
>>
>>
>> > Budikka
>>
>> Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
>> posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
>> you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
>> Maker.
>>
>> Andrew
>
>Let's see, the words of an alleged deity, written down long after the
>alleged event.
>
>
>Let's see, the words of an alleged deity, written down long after the
>alleged event.
>
>Contemporary civilisations failed to notice the alleged event.
What contemporary civilizations? There wasn't any people when it could have
happened.
>Geological evidence fails to support alleged event.
Spaced based radar has found buried pyramids and villages under the drifting
sands.
>
>Ergo, said event never happened.
>
>Which means alleged deity, if real, lied.
duke
May 21, 2012, 4:05:56 PM5/21/12
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On Mon, 21 May 2012 01:23:27 -0700 (PDT), Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Moses didn't. The flood could have happened as much as 4.5 billion years before
he took his river trip.
>>
>> > Contemporary civilisations failed to notice the alleged event.
>>
>> BULLSHIT:
>>
>> http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html
>>
>Trying to use myths of other cultures and religions as evidence that
>your flood myth relates to a real event makes you look even more
>foolish. They fail to corroborate key points, such as who caused it,
>why it happened, how long it lasted, who survived, how they survived,
>and so on.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
wrote:
he took his river trip.
>>
>> > Contemporary civilisations failed to notice the alleged event.
>>
>> BULLSHIT:
>>
>> http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html
>>
>Trying to use myths of other cultures and religions as evidence that
>your flood myth relates to a real event makes you look even more
>foolish. They fail to corroborate key points, such as who caused it,
>why it happened, how long it lasted, who survived, how they survived,
>and so on.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
duke
May 21, 2012, 4:06:41 PM5/21/12
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On Mon, 21 May 2012 11:48:17 -0700 (PDT), Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com>
wrote:
That's only tradition. Moses didn't write it.
wrote:
duke
May 21, 2012, 4:08:41 PM5/21/12
to
On Sun, 20 May 2012 21:38:42 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnk...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>Where did the water go after the flood? And please don't display your
>ignorance with the usual "drained into the deeps' Those deeps were
>already overfull with water 'covering the highest hills'.
It stayed right where it is. The mountains and the valleys formed later.
>Harry K
Harry still the babbling clown.
wrote:
>A "few" problems. If you are refering to that famous "canopy", you
>nuts have been told by AIG to quit using it as it can't be made to
>work.
>
>Had there been a canopy holding enough water to add significantly to
>the flood, the earth would have been in total darkness 24/7 prior to
>the flood.
A canopy? Haahaahaa.
>nuts have been told by AIG to quit using it as it can't be made to
>work.
>
>Had there been a canopy holding enough water to add significantly to
>the flood, the earth would have been in total darkness 24/7 prior to
>the flood.
>Where did the water go after the flood? And please don't display your
>ignorance with the usual "drained into the deeps' Those deeps were
>already overfull with water 'covering the highest hills'.
>Harry K
Harry still the babbling clown.
duke
May 21, 2012, 4:10:04 PM5/21/12
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On Mon, 21 May 2012 06:26:54 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote:
>On Monday, May 21, 2012 5:01:27 AM UTC-7, Andrew wrote:
>> "Joe Bruno" wrote in message news:1836099d-fe68-4813...@googlegroups.com...
>> >Andrew wrote:
>> >> "Budikka666" wrote:
>> >> > http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sphere-is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
>>
>> Explain how its higher parts contain fossils of sea creatures
>> and seashells, clearly showing that it is made of rock that
>> was once under water.
>> And why do you assume that it's current height would be
>> the same as it's antediluvian height..ignoring the massive
>> tectonic upheavals which had to occur for such an event
>> to take place?
>
>I didn't assume that. Actually, the point is the same regardless of when Everest reached it's current height.There are other peaks in places like the
>Andes and the Caucasus that are almost as high as Everest.There is Mt McKinley
>in Washington state.
>On Monday, May 21, 2012 5:01:27 AM UTC-7, Andrew wrote:
>> "Joe Bruno" wrote in message news:1836099d-fe68-4813...@googlegroups.com...
>> >Andrew wrote:
>> >> "Budikka666" wrote:
>> >> > http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sphere-is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
>> >> >
>> >> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
>> >> > miles deep.
>> >>
>> >> Here is what happened..
>> >>
>> >> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
>> >> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
>> >> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
>> >> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
>> >> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>> >>
>> >> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
>> >> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
>> >> covered." v.19
>> >>
>> >> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
>> >> mountain peaks.
>> >>
>> >> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
>> >> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
>> >> strawman.
>> >
>> >
>> > What about Mt Everest, which is over 27,000 feet high????
>> >> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
>> >> > miles deep.
>> >>
>> >> Here is what happened..
>> >>
>> >> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
>> >> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
>> >> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
>> >> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
>> >> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>> >>
>> >> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
>> >> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
>> >> covered." v.19
>> >>
>> >> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
>> >> mountain peaks.
>> >>
>> >> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
>> >> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
>> >> strawman.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Explain how its higher parts contain fossils of sea creatures
>> and seashells, clearly showing that it is made of rock that
>> was once under water.
>
>Can you prove that?Have any of the numerous expeditions to the top of Everest
>discovered such fossils?The summit is covered in deep snow and ice year round
>because it's so cold up there.Did anyone dig down thru the deep snow and find these fossils?
Do you think the earth formed with the mountains and valleys?
>Can you prove that?Have any of the numerous expeditions to the top of Everest
>discovered such fossils?The summit is covered in deep snow and ice year round
>because it's so cold up there.Did anyone dig down thru the deep snow and find these fossils?
>> And why do you assume that it's current height would be
>> the same as it's antediluvian height..ignoring the massive
>> tectonic upheavals which had to occur for such an event
>> to take place?
>
>I didn't assume that. Actually, the point is the same regardless of when Everest reached it's current height.There are other peaks in places like the
>Andes and the Caucasus that are almost as high as Everest.There is Mt McKinley
>in Washington state.
>
>
>>
>>
>> >> > Budikka
>> >>
>> >> Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
>> >> posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
>> >> you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
>> >> Maker.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Andrew
>> >
>
>>
>>
>> >> > Budikka
>> >>
>> >> Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
>> >> posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
>> >> you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
>> >> Maker.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Andrew
>> >
duke
May 21, 2012, 4:11:05 PM5/21/12
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On Mon, 21 May 2012 07:55:10 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnk...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>Harry K
Which year?
wrote:
Which year?
Joe Bruno
May 21, 2012, 4:14:41 PM5/21/12
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On Monday, May 21, 2012 11:27:19 AM UTC-7, Mike Lovell wrote:
> On 2012-05-21, Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote:
> > I actually don't want company on those journeys.I want to be alone with
> > Mom Nature.
>
> Well the boat trip I can understand, but you're going to climb
> Everest solo unassisted?
I'll go with experienced climbers, but once at the top, I'll go on my own.
> On 2012-05-21, Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote:
> > I actually don't want company on those journeys.I want to be alone with
> > Mom Nature.
>
> Well the boat trip I can understand, but you're going to climb
> Everest solo unassisted?
>
> You'll never make it, you need me man YOU NEED ME!!!
>
> Oh and on the boat trip what about if I just sit in the corner quietly?
NYET.On a square-rigger, everybody works.Sailors don't sit on their ass.
> You'll never make it, you need me man YOU NEED ME!!!
>
> Oh and on the boat trip what about if I just sit in the corner quietly?
>
> --
>
Mike Lovell
May 21, 2012, 4:35:07 PM5/21/12
to
On 2012-05-21, Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote:>
>> Well the boat trip I can understand, but you're going to climb
>> Everest solo unassisted?
>
> I'll go with experienced climbers, but once at the top, I'll go on my own.
Good, then I'll come along up until the point where you want to go off
>> Well the boat trip I can understand, but you're going to climb
>> Everest solo unassisted?
>
> I'll go with experienced climbers, but once at the top, I'll go on my own.
on your own to dig and stuff.
>> You'll never make it, you need me man YOU NEED ME!!!
>>
>> Oh and on the boat trip what about if I just sit in the corner quietly?
>
> NYET.On a square-rigger, everybody works.Sailors don't sit on their ass.
ilbe...@gmail.com
May 21, 2012, 4:37:36 PM5/21/12
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On May 19, 5:43 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> deep.
>
> Budikka
> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> deep.
>
Silly buggar . The mountain ranges and hills ROSE up as evidence of
many marine fossils on the tops of mountains today. By the way, dId
you know that the Pacific Ocean is 7 miles deep in parts of it ?
There was a cataclysmic world wide flood at one time and land
animals and marine life got jumbled up together which is exactly what
we find in the fossil record ... and this jumbling up exists in all
the geologic layers and not neatly layed out as you find in secular
textbooks. Forsake the charade of an atheistic worldview and run to
God whos patiently waiting for you. You know he exists so why keep
running ? So you can do life the way you think it should be done ?
Wont be worth it .
Andy W
May 21, 2012, 4:56:06 PM5/21/12
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On May 21, 1:01 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Joe Bruno" wrote in messagenews:1836099d-fe68-4813...@googlegroups.com...
> >Andrew wrote:
> "Joe Bruno" wrote in messagenews:1836099d-fe68-4813...@googlegroups.com...
> >Andrew wrote:
> >> "Budikka666" wrote:
> >> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> >> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> >> > miles deep.
>
> >> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> >> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> >> > miles deep.
>
> >> Here is what happened..
>
> >> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> >> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> >> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> >> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> >> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> >> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> >> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> >> covered." v.19
>
> >> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> >> mountain peaks.
>
>
> >> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> >> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> >> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> >> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> >> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> >> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> >> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> >> covered." v.19
>
> >> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> >> mountain peaks.
>
> >> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> >> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> >> strawman.
>
> > What about Mt Everest, which is over 27,000 feet high????
>
> Explain how its higher parts contain fossils of sea creatures
> and seashells, clearly showing that it is made of rock that
> was once under water.
Yes it was. But that was many millions of years ago, not thousands.
> >> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> >> strawman.
>
> > What about Mt Everest, which is over 27,000 feet high????
>
> Explain how its higher parts contain fossils of sea creatures
> and seashells, clearly showing that it is made of rock that
> was once under water.
>
> And why do you assume that it's current height would be
> the same as it's antediluvian height..ignoring the massive
> tectonic upheavals which had to occur for such an event
> to take place?
say that after the flood all the mountain ranges rose up five miles
while the ocean floors sank by a similar amount?
Andy
Andy W
May 21, 2012, 4:58:21 PM5/21/12
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On May 21, 1:20 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Wombat" wrote in messagenews:b2c1bc16-db95-43de...@b1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> > Carpathians, Pyrenees, Atlas and many, many other ranges did not exist
> > before Ye Floode?
>
> Not as they do now.
>
> > Back in 1964 there was a magnitude 9.2 earthquake in Alaska. Along
> > some miles of the coast the land was thrust up by about 20 feet. To
> > raise mountain ranges throughout the world in the months or years
> > after Ye Floode there would need to be MANY magnitude 9 earthquakes,
>
> Why do you assume such a massive geologic event had to be limited
> by forces that we see today?
Why do you assume that all the laws of physics were any different a
few thousand years ago to what they are today? I mean, apart from the
fact that you need that to be the case for your fairy tales to work.
Andy
> "Wombat" wrote in messagenews:b2c1bc16-db95-43de...@b1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> > "Andrew" wrote:
> >> "Budikka666" wrote:
> >> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> >> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> >> > miles deep.
>
> >> Here is what happened..
>
> >> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> >> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> >> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> >> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> >> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> >> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> >> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> >> covered." v.19
>
> >> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> >> mountain peaks.
>
> >> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> >> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> >> straw man.
>
> > So the Andes, Rockies, Appalachians, Himalayas, Alps, Apennines,
> >> "Budikka666" wrote:
> >> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> >> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> >> > miles deep.
>
> >> Here is what happened..
>
> >> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> >> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> >> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> >> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> >> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> >> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> >> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> >> covered." v.19
>
> >> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> >> mountain peaks.
>
> >> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> >> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> >> straw man.
>
> > Carpathians, Pyrenees, Atlas and many, many other ranges did not exist
> > before Ye Floode?
>
> Not as they do now.
>
> > Back in 1964 there was a magnitude 9.2 earthquake in Alaska. Along
> > some miles of the coast the land was thrust up by about 20 feet. To
> > raise mountain ranges throughout the world in the months or years
> > after Ye Floode there would need to be MANY magnitude 9 earthquakes,
>
> Why do you assume such a massive geologic event had to be limited
> by forces that we see today?
Why do you assume that all the laws of physics were any different a
few thousand years ago to what they are today? I mean, apart from the
fact that you need that to be the case for your fairy tales to work.
Andy
Andy W
May 21, 2012, 5:02:49 PM5/21/12
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On May 21, 5:54 am, Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:50:04 PM UTC-7, Joe Bruno wrote:
> On Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:50:04 PM UTC-7, Joe Bruno wrote:
> > On Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:43:39 PM UTC-7, Budikka666 wrote:
> > >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> > > deep.
>
> > >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> > > deep.
>
> > > Budikka
>
> > The amount of water on Earth today is quite irrelevant.
> > The story happened thousands of years ago.
>
> > Geologists know that Earth was completely covered by a vast ocean before dry land appeared.
>
> http://www.earthdive.com/site/news/newsdetail.asp?changedate=true&cha...
>
> > The amount of water on Earth today is quite irrelevant.
> > The story happened thousands of years ago.
>
> > Geologists know that Earth was completely covered by a vast ocean before dry land appeared.
>
Yeah, billions of years ago, not thousands.
So, Noah's flood: literally true, or allegorical? Coz you seem to be
arguing both side here but more in favour than against.
Andy
Andy W
May 21, 2012, 5:06:21 PM5/21/12
to
On May 21, 4:17 pm, Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >> Bible describes, it wasn't.
>
> > > The point I made is that there is and was enough water to cover the
> > > Earth and always has been.God did not rely on standing water to cover
> > > the Earth-He made it rain.
>
> > So where did the Noah flood water go?
>
> Lots of it evaporated, of course, as part of the normal Earth cycle.
A five mile deep layer, in a few months, really? Would you like to
work out how much heat energy that would need?
> The Earth was once covered by a vast ocean. Where did that water go?
It's still here. Several billion years of plate tectonics has made the
land higher and the oceans deeper, ironically in much the same way
that Andrew is trying to claim but over a realistic timescale.
Andy
> On Monday, May 21, 2012 6:48:02 AM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote in
> >news:85d1b1e4-5149-48a7...@googlegroups.com:
> > Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote in
>
> > > On Monday, May 21, 2012 5:59:14 AM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > >> Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote in
> > >>news:55f122cb-39c8-4a98...@googlegroups.com:
>
> > > On Monday, May 21, 2012 5:59:14 AM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > >> Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote in
> > >>news:55f122cb-39c8-4a98...@googlegroups.com:
>
> > >> > On Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:43:39 PM UTC-7, Budikka666 wrote:
> > >> >>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-
> > >> >> sph ere-is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
> > >> >>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-
>
> > >> >> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> > >> >> deep.
>
> > >> >> Budikka
>
> > >> > The amount of water on Earth today is quite irrelevant.
> > >> > The story happened thousands of years ago.
>
> > >> > Geologists know that Earth was completely covered by a vast ocean
> > >> > before dry land appeared.
>
> > >> Not in the late Bronze age as the
> > >> >> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> > >> >> deep.
>
> > >> >> Budikka
>
> > >> > The amount of water on Earth today is quite irrelevant.
> > >> > The story happened thousands of years ago.
>
> > >> > Geologists know that Earth was completely covered by a vast ocean
> > >> > before dry land appeared.
>
> > >> Bible describes, it wasn't.
>
> > > The point I made is that there is and was enough water to cover the
> > > Earth and always has been.God did not rely on standing water to cover
> > > the Earth-He made it rain.
>
> > So where did the Noah flood water go?
>
> Lots of it evaporated, of course, as part of the normal Earth cycle.
A five mile deep layer, in a few months, really? Would you like to
work out how much heat energy that would need?
> The Earth was once covered by a vast ocean. Where did that water go?
It's still here. Several billion years of plate tectonics has made the
land higher and the oceans deeper, ironically in much the same way
that Andrew is trying to claim but over a realistic timescale.
Andy
Andy W
May 21, 2012, 5:09:45 PM5/21/12
to
On May 21, 9:37 pm, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 19, 5:43 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> > deep.
>
> > Budikka
>
> Silly buggar . The mountain ranges and hills ROSE up as evidence of
> many marine fossils on the tops of mountains today.
Yes, over billions of years, not over a few months.
> On May 19, 5:43 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> > deep.
>
> > Budikka
>
> Silly buggar . The mountain ranges and hills ROSE up as evidence of
> many marine fossils on the tops of mountains today.
> There was a cataclysmic world wide flood at one time and land
> animals and marine life got jumbled up together which is exactly what
> we find in the fossil record ... and this jumbling up exists in all
> the geologic layers and not neatly layed out as you find in secular
> textbooks.
sometime. You think this for no other reason than that you want it to
be true, but that does not make it so.
Andy
Jeanne Douglas
May 21, 2012, 6:08:45 PM5/21/12
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In article <HNudnQKjv6jMsyfS...@earthlink.com>,
> >> "Budikka666" wrote:
> >> > http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sphere
> >> > -is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
The reason there are sea creature fossils is that the Himalayas used
to be ocean bottom before the Indian subcontinent crashed into Asia.
> And why do you assume that it's current height would be
> the same as it's antediluvian height..ignoring the massive
> tectonic upheavals which had to occur for such an event
> to take place?
So once again you're claiming that the Floode took place tens or
hundreds of millions of years ago.
> >> > Budikka
> >>
> >> Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
> >> posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
> >> you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
> >> Maker.
Wow. Wishing someone dead. Really Christian of you.
JD
"Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net> wrote:
> "Joe Bruno" wrote in message
> news:1836099d-fe68-4813...@googlegroups.com...
> >Andrew wrote:
> "Joe Bruno" wrote in message
> news:1836099d-fe68-4813...@googlegroups.com...
> >> "Budikka666" wrote:
> >> > http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sphere
> >> > -is-all-the-worlds-water-that-we-can-use/
> >> >
> >> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> >> > miles deep.
> >>
> >> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> >> > miles deep.
> >>
> >> Here is what happened..
> >>
> >> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> >> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> >> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> >> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> >> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
> >>
> >> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> >> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> >> covered." v.19
> >>
> >> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> >> mountain peaks.
> >>
> >> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> >> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> >>
> >> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> >> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> >> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> >> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> >> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
> >>
> >> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> >> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> >> covered." v.19
> >>
> >> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> >> mountain peaks.
> >>
> >> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> >> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> >> strawman.
> >
> >
> > What about Mt Everest, which is over 27,000 feet high????
>
> Explain how its higher parts contain fossils of sea creatures
> and seashells, clearly showing that it is made of rock that
> was once under water.
Sheesh! Grade school geology and you fail.
> >
> >
> > What about Mt Everest, which is over 27,000 feet high????
>
> Explain how its higher parts contain fossils of sea creatures
> and seashells, clearly showing that it is made of rock that
> was once under water.
The reason there are sea creature fossils is that the Himalayas used
to be ocean bottom before the Indian subcontinent crashed into Asia.
> And why do you assume that it's current height would be
> the same as it's antediluvian height..ignoring the massive
> tectonic upheavals which had to occur for such an event
> to take place?
hundreds of millions of years ago.
> >> > Budikka
> >>
> >> Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
> >> posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
> >> you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
> >> Maker.
JD
Father Haskell
May 21, 2012, 6:15:34 PM5/21/12
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And he knows it.
Father Haskell
May 21, 2012, 6:14:09 PM5/21/12
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On May 19, 6:43 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> deep.
>
> Budikka
Europa and Enceladus each have more water than Earth. If
> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
> deep.
>
> Budikka
water is an argument for a creator, then the "creator" was
drunk.
Free Lunch
May 21, 2012, 6:23:39 PM5/21/12
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On Mon, 21 May 2012 05:20:07 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>"Wombat" wrote in message news:b2c1bc16-db95-43de...@b1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>> "Andrew" wrote:
claims about mountains are false.
>
>> so many that the
>> Earth would have rung like a bell. Are you really that stupid?
>> Don't you think that might have rated a mention in the Bible?
>
>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>"Wombat" wrote in message news:b2c1bc16-db95-43de...@b1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>> "Budikka666" wrote:
>>> > http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>>>
>>> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
>>> > miles deep.
>>>
>>> > http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>>>
>>> > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
>>> > miles deep.
>>>
>>> Here is what happened..
>>>
>>> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
>>> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
>>> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
>>> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
>>> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>>>
>>> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
>>> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
>>> covered." v.19
>>>
>>> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
>>> mountain peaks.
>>>
>>> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
>>> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
>>>
>>> "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
>>> the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
>>> fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
>>> heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
>>> days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>>>
>>> "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
>>> all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
>>> covered." v.19
>>>
>>> That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
>>> mountain peaks.
>>>
>>> And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
>>> to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
>>> straw man.
>>
>> So the Andes, Rockies, Appalachians, Himalayas, Alps, Apennines,
>> Carpathians, Pyrenees, Atlas and many, many other ranges did not exist
>> before Ye Floode?
>
>Not as they do now.
All of the evidence shows that no such flood ever happened and that your
>>
>> So the Andes, Rockies, Appalachians, Himalayas, Alps, Apennines,
>> Carpathians, Pyrenees, Atlas and many, many other ranges did not exist
>> before Ye Floode?
>
>Not as they do now.
claims about mountains are false.
>
>> Back in 1964 there was a magnitude 9.2 earthquake in Alaska. Along
>> some miles of the coast the land was thrust up by about 20 feet. To
>> raise mountain ranges throughout the world in the months or years
>> after Ye Floode there would need to be MANY magnitude 9 earthquakes,
>
>Why do you assume such a massive geologic event had to be limited
>by forces that we see today?
>
Reality.
>> Back in 1964 there was a magnitude 9.2 earthquake in Alaska. Along
>> some miles of the coast the land was thrust up by about 20 feet. To
>> raise mountain ranges throughout the world in the months or years
>> after Ye Floode there would need to be MANY magnitude 9 earthquakes,
>
>Why do you assume such a massive geologic event had to be limited
>by forces that we see today?
>
>
>> so many that the
>> Earth would have rung like a bell. Are you really that stupid?
>> Don't you think that might have rated a mention in the Bible?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Budikka
>>>
>>> Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
>>> posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
>>> you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
>>> Maker.
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>> > Budikka
>>>
>>> Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
>>> posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
>>> you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
>>> Maker.
>>>
>
>
Free Lunch
May 21, 2012, 6:24:57 PM5/21/12
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On Mon, 21 May 2012 15:11:05 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
alt.talk.creationism:
Any year. Don't you understand what absurd claims are made when people
allege that the Flood happened?
alt.talk.creationism:
allege that the Flood happened?
Joe Bruno
May 21, 2012, 6:25:15 PM5/21/12
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On Monday, May 21, 2012 1:35:07 PM UTC-7, Mike Lovell wrote:
> On 2012-05-21, Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote:>
> >> Well the boat trip I can understand, but you're going to climb
> >> Everest solo unassisted?
> >
> > I'll go with experienced climbers, but once at the top, I'll go on my own.
>
> Good, then I'll come along up until the point where you want to go off
> on your own to dig and stuff.
I'm not going to dig for fossils. Paleontology doesn't interest me.
> On 2012-05-21, Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote:>
> >> Well the boat trip I can understand, but you're going to climb
> >> Everest solo unassisted?
> >
> > I'll go with experienced climbers, but once at the top, I'll go on my own.
>
> Good, then I'll come along up until the point where you want to go off
> on your own to dig and stuff.
I like the purely physical sciences-chemistry and Physics.
At one point in college, I had plans to major in chem.
>
> >> You'll never make it, you need me man YOU NEED ME!!!
> >>
> >> Oh and on the boat trip what about if I just sit in the corner quietly?
> >
> > NYET.On a square-rigger, everybody works.Sailors don't sit on their ass.
>
> What if I said I was in a wheelchair?
Good. Then you have transportation already.You can wheel yourself to Cape Horn.
> >> You'll never make it, you need me man YOU NEED ME!!!
> >>
> >> Oh and on the boat trip what about if I just sit in the corner quietly?
> >
> > NYET.On a square-rigger, everybody works.Sailors don't sit on their ass.
>
> What if I said I was in a wheelchair?
Try to stay out of the Amazon basin-those snakes are nasty.
Stay out of the river itself.Piranhas, you know.
>
> --
Free Lunch
May 21, 2012, 6:25:24 PM5/21/12
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On Mon, 21 May 2012 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
alt.talk.creationism:
Not while there were human beings.
alt.talk.creationism:
Free Lunch
May 21, 2012, 6:28:22 PM5/21/12
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On Mon, 21 May 2012 13:37:36 -0700 (PDT), "IlBe...@gmail.com"
<ilbe...@gmail.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>On May 19, 5:43 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
>> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>>
>> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
>> deep.
>>
>> Budikka
>
>Silly buggar . The mountain ranges and hills ROSE up as evidence of
>many marine fossils on the tops of mountains today.
The physical evidence shows us that Noah's Flood did not happen. You
have been lied to by professional frauds about the events that never
happened.
>By the way, dId
>you know that the Pacific Ocean is 7 miles deep in parts of it ?
So?
>There was a cataclysmic world wide flood at one time
No, there was not. That claim is a false doctrine.
>and land animals and marine life got jumbled up together
Again, you do not know what you are talking about.
> which is exactly what we find in the fossil record
We do not find that in the fossil record. You have been misled and are
too ignorant to realize that you have been conned by people spreading
false doctrines.
>... and this jumbling up exists in all
>the geologic layers and not neatly layed out as you find in secular
>textbooks.
More falsehoods from you.
>Forsake the charade of an atheistic worldview and run to
>God whos patiently waiting for you. You know he exists so why keep
>running ? So you can do life the way you think it should be done ?
>Wont be worth it .
Why would I feel a need to worship a god who demands that I tell lies
the way you seem to think your god does?
<ilbe...@gmail.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>On May 19, 5:43 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
>> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>>
>> No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five miles
>> deep.
>>
>> Budikka
>
>Silly buggar . The mountain ranges and hills ROSE up as evidence of
>many marine fossils on the tops of mountains today.
have been lied to by professional frauds about the events that never
happened.
>By the way, dId
>you know that the Pacific Ocean is 7 miles deep in parts of it ?
>There was a cataclysmic world wide flood at one time
>and land animals and marine life got jumbled up together
> which is exactly what we find in the fossil record
too ignorant to realize that you have been conned by people spreading
false doctrines.
>... and this jumbling up exists in all
>the geologic layers and not neatly layed out as you find in secular
>textbooks.
>Forsake the charade of an atheistic worldview and run to
>God whos patiently waiting for you. You know he exists so why keep
>running ? So you can do life the way you think it should be done ?
>Wont be worth it .
the way you seem to think your god does?
Joe Bruno
May 21, 2012, 6:39:03 PM5/21/12
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On Monday, May 21, 2012 11:48:17 AM UTC-7, Devils Advocaat wrote:
> On May 21, 7:20 pm, Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Monday, May 21, 2012 8:37:01 AM UTC-7, Devils Advocaat wrote:
> > > On May 21, 8:47 am, Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:26:09 PM UTC-7, Devils Advocaat wrote:
> On May 21, 7:20 pm, Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Monday, May 21, 2012 8:37:01 AM UTC-7, Devils Advocaat wrote:
> > > On May 21, 8:47 am, Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:26:09 PM UTC-7, Devils Advocaat wrote:
> > > > > On May 20, 8:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> > > > > > "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > > "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > > >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
> >
> > > > > > > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > > > > > > miles deep.
> >
> >
> > > > > > > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > > > > > > miles deep.
> >
> > > > > > Here is what happened..
> >
> > > > > > "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> > > > > > the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> > > > > > fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> > > > > > heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> > > > > > days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
> >
> > > > > > "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> > > > > > all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> > > > > > covered." v.19
> >
> > > > > > That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> > > > > > mountain peaks.
> >
> > > > > > And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> > > > > > to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> > > > > > straw man.
> >
> > > > > > > Budikka
> >
> > > > > > Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
> > > > > > posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
> > > > > > you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
> > > > > > Maker.
> >
> >
> > > > > > "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> > > > > > the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> > > > > > fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> > > > > > heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> > > > > > days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
> >
> > > > > > "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> > > > > > all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> > > > > > covered." v.19
> >
> > > > > > That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> > > > > > mountain peaks.
> >
> > > > > > And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> > > > > > to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> > > > > > straw man.
> >
> > > > > > > Budikka
> >
> > > > > > Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
> > > > > > posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
> > > > > > you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
> > > > > > Maker.
> >
> > > > > > Andrew
> >
> > > > > Let's see, the words of an alleged deity, written down long after the
> > > > > alleged event.
> >
> > > > How do you know who was the first to chronicle the flood?
> >
> > > Rabbinic tradition holds that Moses was the first to chronicle the
> > > flood.
> >
> > BULLSHIT.?Show me that passage in the
> > Talmud.The Talmud is Rabbinic law.
> >
> Given that rabbinic ***tradition*** tells us Moses wrote the
> Pentatuech it's logical that this would include the flood story.
>
> And given that you are supposed to be the resident Jew then you should
> be familiar with rabbinic tradition.
Moses wrote the law in the Torah,not all of it.
> >
> > > > > Let's see, the words of an alleged deity, written down long after the
> > > > > alleged event.
> >
> > > > How do you know who was the first to chronicle the flood?
> >
> > > Rabbinic tradition holds that Moses was the first to chronicle the
> > > flood.
> >
> > BULLSHIT.?Show me that passage in the
> > Talmud.The Talmud is Rabbinic law.
> >
> Given that rabbinic ***tradition*** tells us Moses wrote the
> Pentatuech it's logical that this would include the flood story.
>
> And given that you are supposed to be the resident Jew then you should
> be familiar with rabbinic tradition.
Leviticus is his baby.That's why they call it Mosaic Law.
I am familiar with what I was taught in Hebrew school by the rabbis.
I have no interest in any bullshit imagined by you.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
Mike Lovell
May 21, 2012, 6:50:30 PM5/21/12
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On 2012-05-21, Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote:
>> > I'll go with experienced climbers, but once at the top, I'll go on my own.
>>
>> Good, then I'll come along up until the point where you want to go off
>> on your own to dig and stuff.
>
> I'm not going to dig for fossils. Paleontology doesn't interest me.
> I like the purely physical sciences-chemistry and Physics.
> At one point in college, I had plans to major in chem.
Well whatever you're going to do, I'll hang back and cook some steak
>> > I'll go with experienced climbers, but once at the top, I'll go on my own.
>>
>> Good, then I'll come along up until the point where you want to go off
>> on your own to dig and stuff.
>
> I'm not going to dig for fossils. Paleontology doesn't interest me.
> I like the purely physical sciences-chemistry and Physics.
> At one point in college, I had plans to major in chem.
while you do the summit.
>> >> You'll never make it, you need me man YOU NEED ME!!!
>> >>
>> >> Oh and on the boat trip what about if I just sit in the corner quietly?
>> >
>> > NYET.On a square-rigger, everybody works.Sailors don't sit on their ass.
>>
>> What if I said I was in a wheelchair?
>
> Good. Then you have transportation already.You can wheel yourself to Cape Horn.
> Try to stay out of the Amazon basin-those snakes are nasty.
> Stay out of the river itself.Piranhas, you know.
Free Lunch
May 21, 2012, 7:16:02 PM5/21/12
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On Mon, 21 May 2012 15:15:34 -0700 (PDT), Father Haskell
<father...@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
Andrew gets very offended when his intentional lies are pointed out to
him.
<father...@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
him.
Devils Advocaat
May 21, 2012, 7:51:48 PM5/21/12
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On May 21, 7:20 pm, Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Monday, May 21, 2012 8:37:01 AM UTC-7, Devils Advocaat wrote:
> > On May 21, 8:47 am, Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > On Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:26:09 PM UTC-7, Devils Advocaat wrote:
> > > > On May 20, 8:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> > > > > "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> On Monday, May 21, 2012 8:37:01 AM UTC-7, Devils Advocaat wrote:
> > On May 21, 8:47 am, Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > On Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:26:09 PM UTC-7, Devils Advocaat wrote:
> > > > On May 20, 8:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> > > > > "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > > > > > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > > > > > miles deep.
>
>
> > > > > > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > > > > > miles deep.
>
The first part of the Talmud is the Mishnah.
The fourth part of the Mishnah is the Nezikin.
The penultimate part of the Nezikin is the Avot.
Sometimes called the Pirkei Avot.
The first passage of the first chapter of this declares:
"Moses received the Torah from Sinai and transmitted it to Joshua;
Joshua to the elders; the elders to the prophets ..." and so on.
Since Moses received the Torah from God while on Mount Sinai, I would
guess that would make him by that passage from the rabbinic law the
first to have written it down.
Funny how one little goyim knows a tad more about Jewish tradition and
law than the resident Jew.
>
>
>
>
>
>
linuxgal
May 21, 2012, 9:25:56 PM5/21/12
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duke wrote:
> Bud da dud de caca still doesn't get it that Mt Everest was at one time just a
> speed bump.
But in 2507 BCE it was still about 29,000 feet tall.
> Bud da dud de caca still doesn't get it that Mt Everest was at one time just a
> speed bump.
harry k
May 21, 2012, 11:35:07 PM5/21/12
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On May 21, 1:08 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 20 May 2012 21:38:42 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
So mountains grew 5 miles high in only a few y ears? Do you realize
the chaos that would result from that?
Harry K
> On Sun, 20 May 2012 21:38:42 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
the chaos that would result from that?
Harry K
Devils Advocaat
May 21, 2012, 11:47:29 PM5/21/12
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> Leviticus is his baby.That's why they call it Mosaic Law.
attributed to Moses.
>
> I am familiar with what I was taught in Hebrew school by the rabbis.
But you seem to have forgotten the detail of it.
> I am familiar with what I was taught in Hebrew school by the rabbis.
> I have no interest in any bullshit imagined by you.
Devils Advocaat
May 21, 2012, 11:48:42 PM5/21/12
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On May 21, 9:06 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 May 2012 11:48:17 -0700 (PDT), Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com>
> That's only tradition. Moses didn't write it.
So who did?
> On Mon, 21 May 2012 11:48:17 -0700 (PDT), Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com>
So who did?
harry k
May 21, 2012, 11:39:03 PM5/21/12
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surprise.
Where did te water come from?
Where did the water go?
Harry K
Wombat
May 22, 2012, 1:03:35 AM5/22/12
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On May 21, 9:50 pm, Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 21, 8:39 pm, Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 21, 8:19 pm, Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 21, 4:28 pm, Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 21, 12:08 pm, Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 21, 10:23 am, Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 21, 6:38 am, harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > So with Jason henpecked into silence,
>
> > > > > Nobody sent any hens to peck him.
>
> > > > Is pussy whipped more to your taste?
>
> > > I doubt any self-respecting pussy would go anywhere near him.
>
> > Bitch slapping?
>
> Do you know any bitch that would sully her hand by slapping him?
Sod it! From Collins English Dictionary: "henpeck - to domineer over
a husband".
>
> > > > > > Andrew picks up the "Floode"
> > > > > > banner!
>
> > > > > And makes an even worse hash of it.
> On May 21, 8:39 pm, Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 21, 8:19 pm, Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 21, 4:28 pm, Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 21, 12:08 pm, Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 21, 10:23 am, Wombat <tri...@multiweb.nl> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 21, 6:38 am, harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 20, 12:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > > > On May 20, 12:17 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:38286137-cc7c-46b6...@v10g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > > > > >http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/05/18/and-this-tiny-sp...
>
> > > > > > > > > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > > > > > > > > miles deep.
>
>
> > > > > > > > > No way in hell there's enough water to flood the planet five
> > > > > > > > > miles deep.
>
> > > > > > > > Here is what happened..
>
> > > > > > > > "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> > > > > > > > the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> > > > > > > > fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> > > > > > > > heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> > > > > > > > days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> > > > > > > > "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> > > > > > > > all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> > > > > > > > covered." v.19
>
> > > > > > > > That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> > > > > > > > mountain peaks.
>
> > > > > > > > And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> > > > > > > > to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> > > > > > > > straw man.
>
> > > > > > > > > Budikka
>
> > > > > > > > Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
> > > > > > > > posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
> > > > > > > > you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
> > > > > > > > Maker.
>
> > > > > > > > Andrew
>
>
> > > > > > > > "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month,
> > > > > > > > the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the
> > > > > > > > fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of
> > > > > > > > heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty
> > > > > > > > days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11,12
>
> > > > > > > > "And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and
> > > > > > > > all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were
> > > > > > > > covered." v.19
>
> > > > > > > > That's why we see fossilized ocean creatures on the high
> > > > > > > > mountain peaks.
>
> > > > > > > > And the antediluvian earth had no five mile high mountains
> > > > > > > > to be covered. So your above argument is shown to be a
> > > > > > > > straw man.
>
> > > > > > > > > Budikka
>
> > > > > > > > Thanks Budikka! Glad to see you are still able to do a few
> > > > > > > > posts now and then in the little time you have left...before
> > > > > > > > you must depart us here, and you are called to meet your
> > > > > > > > Maker.
>
> > > > > > > > Andrew
>
> > > > > > > A "few" problems. If you are refering to that famous "canopy", you
> > > > > > > nuts have been told by AIG to quit using it as it can't be made to
> > > > > > > work.
>
> > > > > > > Had there been a canopy holding enough water to add significantly to
> > > > > > > the flood, the earth would have been in total darkness 24/7 prior to
> > > > > > > the flood.
>
> > > > > > > nuts have been told by AIG to quit using it as it can't be made to
> > > > > > > work.
>
> > > > > > > Had there been a canopy holding enough water to add significantly to
> > > > > > > the flood, the earth would have been in total darkness 24/7 prior to
> > > > > > > the flood.
>
> > > > > > > Where did the water go after the flood? And please don't display your
> > > > > > > ignorance with the usual "drained into the deeps' Those deeps were
> > > > > > > already overfull with water 'covering the highest hills'.
>
> > > > > > > Harry K
> > > > > > > ignorance with the usual "drained into the deeps' Those deeps were
> > > > > > > already overfull with water 'covering the highest hills'.
>
>
> > > > > > So with Jason henpecked into silence,
>
> > > > > Nobody sent any hens to peck him.
>
> > > > Is pussy whipped more to your taste?
>
> > > I doubt any self-respecting pussy would go anywhere near him.
>
> > Bitch slapping?
>
> Do you know any bitch that would sully her hand by slapping him?
Sod it! From Collins English Dictionary: "henpeck - to domineer over
a husband".
>
> > > > > > Andrew picks up the "Floode"
> > > > > > banner!
>
> > > > > And makes an even worse hash of it.
Devils Advocaat
May 22, 2012, 1:34:10 AM5/22/12
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If you are, it could turn into a turf war.
Wombat
May 22, 2012, 4:50:39 AM5/22/12
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Devils Advocaat
May 22, 2012, 6:22:10 AM5/22/12
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Wombat
May 22, 2012, 6:36:33 AM5/22/12
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nursing mother"
Joe Bruno
May 22, 2012, 7:04:54 AM5/22/12
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You're wasting your time.That passage is so vague, it could mean anything.
I don't base my knowledge of Judaism on the guesswork of some presumptuous
fool on the Internet.
Get lost.
>
Alex W.
May 22, 2012, 7:28:21 AM5/22/12
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Joe Bruno
May 22, 2012, 7:14:35 AM5/22/12
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Wombat
May 22, 2012, 7:50:49 AM5/22/12
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duke
May 22, 2012, 8:06:31 AM5/22/12
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On Mon, 21 May 2012 20:35:07 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnk...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>Harry K
wrote:
>So mountains grew 5 miles high in only a few y ears? Do you realize
>the chaos that would result from that?
What few years? How long did it take the Grand Canyon to form?
>the chaos that would result from that?
>Harry K
duke
May 22, 2012, 8:07:57 AM5/22/12
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years old. Truthfully, the earth is 4.5 billion years old.
duke
May 22, 2012, 8:08:28 AM5/22/12
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duke
May 22, 2012, 8:10:29 AM5/22/12
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long time.
Devils Advocaat
May 22, 2012, 8:13:32 AM5/22/12
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my "bullshit" you're exposing, but the "bullshit" of the rabbinic law
that you supposedly hold in such high regard.
Devils Advocaat
May 22, 2012, 8:25:21 AM5/22/12
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in my conclusion, and because of that word, you're in effect rejecting
the words of the Talmud itself.
> You're wasting your time.That passage is so vague, it could mean anything.
anything?
>
> I don't base my knowledge of Judaism on the guesswork of some presumptuous
> fool on the Internet.
So you reject a direct quote from the Talmud, not exactly what I'd
> I don't base my knowledge of Judaism on the guesswork of some presumptuous
> fool on the Internet.
expect from a Jew.
>
> Get lost.
>
No chance of that.
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