Catholic Bishops Versus..........Girl Scouts?

[Mitchell Holman]

Catholic Bishops Are Investigating The Girl Scouts


The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops sent an "official
inquiry" to the Girl Scouts of the USA.

"The new inquiry will be conducted by the Bishop's committee
on Laity, Marriage, Family Life and Youth. It will look into
whether the Girl Scouts have "possible problematic relationships
with other organizations" and problematic program materials.
Conservative groups accused the Girl Scouts of associating
with Planned Parenthood, which they deny, and giving girls
access to information about sex and sexuality. The group says
it takes no position on sexuality, birth control and abortion.

"The Girl Scouts have been dogged by complaints — the Scouts
call them distortions — for decades. This challenge from the
Catholic Bishops is significant, because many of the troops
are sponsored by Catholic parishes and about a quarter of all
scouts are Catholic."

http://tinyurl.com/82kayja

[linuxgal]

Mitchell Holman wrote:

> The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops sent an "official
> inquiry" to the Girl Scouts of the USA.

They're just trying to turn little girls into young women. They didn't
expect the Spanish Inquisition.

[Catpain 'Merca]

Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote in
news:XnsA0525788F960F...@216.196.121.131:

>
>
> Catholic Bishops Are Investigating The Girl Scouts

Catholic priests and children, always a great mix.

Catpain 'Merca
--
.

[de...@dudu.org]

On Sun, 13 May 2012 14:19:44 +0000 (UTC), "Catpain 'Merca"
<catpai...@nospam.net> wrote:

>Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote in
>news:XnsA0525788F960F...@216.196.121.131:
>
>>
>>
>> Catholic Bishops Are Investigating The Girl Scouts
>Catholic priests and children, always a great mix.

The Girl Scouts are fine as long as they stay away from nuns. The
priests mostly go for the little boys.

>
>Catpain 'Merca

[Frank Galikanokus]

Mitchell Holman wrote:
>
> Catholic Bishops Are Investigating The Girl Scouts
>
> The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops sent an "official
> inquiry" to the Girl Scouts of the USA.
>

Maybe the church would be better served if they investigated the child
molesters in their own ranks.

JAM

[Mitchell Holman]

linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote in
news:ytKdnQyeqKZrIjLS...@giganews.com:

> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>
>> The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops sent an "official
>> inquiry" to the Girl Scouts of the USA.
>
> They're just trying to turn little girls into young women.

That will happen on its own without priestly intervention.





The Forgotten Victims Of Priest Sexual Abuse: Girls
April 16 2010

Pat Wingert and Barbara Kantrowitz tackle the issue in
Newsweek, writing that previous conceptions of priest
sexual abuse "seemed to suggest that this scenario
ignored a whole segment of victims: young girls." In
talking to experts, they found that girls were less
likely to face abuse at the hands of priests - at least
among reported cases, there were four male victims for
every one female - but that it did happen. Girls were
typically younger at the time of the abuse, but they
were also more likely to be their abusers' only victim,
and perpetrators who had just one victim were less
likely to abuse for more than a year.
http://tinyurl.com/yyvsg9p

[linuxgal]

Catpain 'Merca wrote:
> Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote in
> news:XnsA0525788F960F...@216.196.121.131:
>
>>
>> Catholic Bishops Are Investigating The Girl Scouts

> Catholic priests and children, always a great mix.

Well, they put the Beatles under the gun and that was a dry hole, maybe
girl scouts will be different.

[duke]

It's not nice for the high moral code of the Girl Scouts to pray around with
birth control and abortion. They could lose their certification by the RCC.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
2012 - end of an error
Vote Republican in 2012

[duke]

Young women that support abortion are evil young women.

[MarkA]

On Sun, 13 May 2012 10:28:29 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Sun, 13 May 2012 08:43:34 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Catholic Bishops Are Investigating The Girl Scouts
>>
>>
>>The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops sent an "official inquiry" to the
>>Girl Scouts of the USA.
>>
>>"The new inquiry will be conducted by the Bishop's committee on Laity,
>>Marriage, Family Life and Youth. It will look into whether the Girl
>>Scouts have "possible problematic relationships with other organizations"
>>and problematic program materials. Conservative groups accused the Girl
>>Scouts of associating with Planned Parenthood, which they deny, and
>>giving girls access to information about sex and sexuality. The group
>>says it takes no position on sexuality, birth control and abortion.
>>

>>"The Girl Scouts have been dogged by complaints - the Scouts call them
>>distortions - for decades. This challenge from the Catholic Bishops is

>>significant, because many of the troops are sponsored by Catholic
>>parishes and about a quarter of all scouts are Catholic."
>
> It's not nice for the high moral code of the Girl Scouts to pray around
> with birth control and abortion. They could lose their certification by
> the RCC.

What a tragedy THAT would be.

> 2012 - end of an error
> Vote Republican in 2012

Even if you can't be a billionaire, you can at least VOTE like one!

--
MarkA
Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
About eight o'clock

[MarkA]

They already did that. They didn't like what they were finding. So,
they decided to pick on the Girl Scouts, instead.

[linuxgal]

duke wrote:
> On Sun, 13 May 2012 07:04:05 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>
>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>
>>> The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops sent an "official
>>> inquiry" to the Girl Scouts of the USA.
>> They're just trying to turn little girls into young women. They didn't
>> expect the Spanish Inquisition.
>
> Young women that support abortion are evil young women.

Many people take the Biblical position that a human soul requires a body
and spirit, with spirit defined as the breath of life, which does not
enter the body of the baby until the doctor spanks it. Since there are
two conflicting opinions, US law defers to the woman, and she remains
secure from unreasonable search and seizure of her person under the
Fourth Amendment.

[Kenny McCormack]

In article <Q8OdnXK_yOrCfDLS...@giganews.com>,
linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
...

>> Young women that support abortion are evil young women.
>
>Many people take the Biblical position that a human soul requires a body
>and spirit, with spirit defined as the breath of life, which does not
>enter the body of the baby until the doctor spanks it. Since there are
>two conflicting opinions, US law defers to the woman, and she remains
>secure from unreasonable search and seizure of her person under the
>Fourth Amendment.

duke don't go in for any of that Amendment shit or that Constitution
garbage...

--
They say compassion is a virtue, but I don't have the time!

- David Byrne -

[Kenny McCormack]

In article <pan.2012.05.13....@nowhere.invalid>,
MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
...

>Even if you can't be a billionaire, you can at least VOTE like one!

Indeed. It is amazing how many fools (aka, the GOP base) are motivated by
exactly that.

[Syd M.]

On May 13, 11:29 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 13 May 2012 07:04:05 -0700, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
> >Mitchell Holman wrote:
>
> >> The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops sent an "official
> >> inquiry" to the Girl Scouts of the USA.
>
> >They're just trying to turn little girls into young women.  They didn't
> >expect the Spanish Inquisition.
>
> Young women that support abortion are evil young women.

Sez you.
And you are a know liar and misogynist.
So, you have no say in what they do.

PDW

[Syd M.]

On May 13, 1:31 pm, gaze...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack)
wrote:

> In article <Q8OdnXK_yOrCfDLSnZ2dnUVZ_rWdn...@giganews.com>,linuxgal  <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>
> ...
>
> >> Young women that support abortion are evil young women.
>
> >Many people take the Biblical position that a human soul requires a body
> >and spirit, with spirit defined as the breath of life, which does not
> >enter the body of the baby until the doctor spanks it.  Since there are
> >two conflicting opinions, US law defers to the woman, and she remains
> >secure from unreasonable search and seizure of her person under the
> >Fourth Amendment.
>
> duke don't go in for any of that Amendment shit or that Constitution
> garbage...
>

Or any of that 'honesty' shit, either.

PDW

[default]

On Sun, 13 May 2012 08:43:34 -0500, Mitchell Holman
<nomailcomcast.net> wrote:

>
>

Now the whining arrogant idiot bishops have to persecute the girl
scouts - all the while decrying "Catholic Persecution?"

The child molesters would impose their "morality" on others.

They prove time and again that they could care less what happens to
children in their care; yet pretend to care what happens to children
providing those children are in some one else's care.

Scum sucking Catholics

[kni...@baawa.com]

On Sun, 13 May 2012 08:43:34 -0500, Mitchell Holman
<nomailcomcast.net> wrote:

>
>

>Catholic Bishops Are Investigating The Girl Scouts
>
>
>The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops sent an "official
>inquiry" to the Girl Scouts of the USA.

Swell. Another really terrific organization about to be turned to
shit by religion.

My god! There might be lesbian or (gasp) atheist Girl Scouts.

We need to stamp this filth out! That's what god wants!

Warlord Steve
BAAWA

[Paul Duca]

> Worse, it won't be an honor for Ann Romney to be an honorary one.

[duke]

On Sun, 13 May 2012 09:26:38 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:

>duke wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 May 2012 07:04:05 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>
>>>> The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops sent an "official
>>>> inquiry" to the Girl Scouts of the USA.
>>> They're just trying to turn little girls into young women. They didn't
>>> expect the Spanish Inquisition.
>>
>> Young women that support abortion are evil young women.
>
>Many people take the Biblical position that a human soul requires a body
>and spirit

I'll go with God.

> with spirit defined as the breath of life, which does not
>enter the body of the baby until the doctor spanks it.

Cool, but the first cell division still takes oxygen as does the rest of the
development leading to birth. First breathe is a physical action, not a
spiritual action. As a newborn is a gift of God, so is it's preparation.
Genesis says God breathed physical life into first mankind. John 20 says Jesus
breathed spiritual life into first mankind. There's only two "breathes" in the
bible.

So firstly, we have the separation of the chemicals, 50% in man (sperm) and 50%
in woman (egg) brought together via mutually shaped organs via a most intense
level of excitement.

Secondly, you have a cell split that is human from the getgo. There is no dog
or mosquito to result.

> Since there are
>two conflicting opinions, US law defers to the woman, and she remains
>secure from unreasonable search and seizure of her person under the
>Fourth Amendment.

There, you just lost it. You invoke "human law" and specify it valid for
spiritual law.

[duke]

On Sun, 13 May 2012 17:31:51 +0000 (UTC), gaz...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny
McCormack) wrote:

>In article <Q8OdnXK_yOrCfDLS...@giganews.com>,
>linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>...
>>> Young women that support abortion are evil young women.
>>
>>Many people take the Biblical position that a human soul requires a body
>>and spirit, with spirit defined as the breath of life, which does not
>>enter the body of the baby until the doctor spanks it. Since there are
>>two conflicting opinions, US law defers to the woman, and she remains
>>secure from unreasonable search and seizure of her person under the
>>Fourth Amendment.
>
>duke don't go in for any of that Amendment shit or that Constitution
>garbage...

Neither does God.

[duke]

On Sun, 13 May 2012 11:46:22 -0400, MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

>On Sun, 13 May 2012 10:28:29 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 13 May 2012 08:43:34 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Catholic Bishops Are Investigating The Girl Scouts
>>>
>>>
>>>The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops sent an "official inquiry" to the
>>>Girl Scouts of the USA.
>>>
>>>"The new inquiry will be conducted by the Bishop's committee on Laity,
>>>Marriage, Family Life and Youth. It will look into whether the Girl
>>>Scouts have "possible problematic relationships with other organizations"
>>>and problematic program materials. Conservative groups accused the Girl
>>>Scouts of associating with Planned Parenthood, which they deny, and
>>>giving girls access to information about sex and sexuality. The group
>>>says it takes no position on sexuality, birth control and abortion.
>>>
>>>"The Girl Scouts have been dogged by complaints - the Scouts call them
>>>distortions - for decades. This challenge from the Catholic Bishops is
>>>significant, because many of the troops are sponsored by Catholic
>>>parishes and about a quarter of all scouts are Catholic."
>>
>> It's not nice for the high moral code of the Girl Scouts to pray around
>> with birth control and abortion. They could lose their certification by
>> the RCC.

>What a tragedy THAT would be.

It would clearly massively reduce their numbers.

>> 2012 - end of an error
>> Vote Republican in 2012

>Even if you can't be a billionaire, you can at least VOTE like one!

Oh, I intend to vote 8-10 times, maybe even a half-dozen.

[duke]

On Sun, 13 May 2012 17:33:51 +0000 (UTC), gaz...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny
McCormack) wrote:

>In article <pan.2012.05.13....@nowhere.invalid>,
>MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>...
>>Even if you can't be a billionaire, you can at least VOTE like one!
>
>Indeed. It is amazing how many fools (aka, the GOP base) are motivated by
>exactly that.

We want jobs, less government, no buckwheatcare and all the other things our
forefathers gave us that buckwheat is trying his damndest to destroy.

[duke]

On Sun, 13 May 2012 18:27:21 -0700, kni...@baawa.com wrote:

>On Sun, 13 May 2012 08:43:34 -0500, Mitchell Holman
><nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Catholic Bishops Are Investigating The Girl Scouts
>>
>>
>>The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops sent an "official
>>inquiry" to the Girl Scouts of the USA.
>
> Swell. Another really terrific organization about to be turned to
>shit by religion.

Right. Then we'll have a new flourishing organization like the "Catholic Girl
Scouts". That will pretty much wipe out the heathens running the current Girl
Scouts.

> My god! There might be lesbian or (gasp) atheist Girl Scouts.

They're too selfish to care.

> We need to stamp this filth out! That's what god wants!
>Warlord Steve
>BAAWA

Exactly.

[Mitchell Holman]

duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:nar1r7dtqes7gjf8i...@4ax.com:

> As a newborn is a gift of God

Then who is a stillborn a "gift" from?

[Mitchell Holman]

duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:q4s1r7h7ll7i0vca9...@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 13 May 2012 17:33:51 +0000 (UTC), gaz...@shell.xmission.com
> (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
>
>>In article <pan.2012.05.13....@nowhere.invalid>,
>>MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>...
>>>Even if you can't be a billionaire, you can at least VOTE like one!
>>
>>Indeed. It is amazing how many fools (aka, the GOP base) are
>>motivated by exactly that.
>
> We want jobs, less government,

So why would you vote Republican?



Bush administration increased the number of new pages in
the Federal Registry, a proxy for economic regulation,
from 64,438 new pages in 2001 to 78,090 in new pages
in 2007, a record amount of regulation. Economically
significant regulations, defined as regulations which
cost more than $100 million a year, increased by 70%.
Spending on regulation increased by 62% from $26.4
billion to $42.7 billion.

http://tinyurl.com/2fuvm3v

[Kenny McCormack]

In article <XnsA0534D9295CB0...@216.196.121.131>,

Yes. It is just mind boggling what a bill of goods these people (and I use
the term loosely - especially so in "Duke"s case) have been sold. They
repeatedly end up believing exactly the opposite of truth.

--

First of all, I do not appreciate your playing stupid here at all.

- Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn -

[Christopher A. Lee]

On Mon, 14 May 2012 10:47:51 -0500, Robert Parker
<Dontb...@netportusa.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 13 May 2012 18:27:21 -0700, kni...@baawa.com wrote:
>

> My daughter and grand daughters are atheist, and no longer associate with
>the Girl Scouts, like the Boys reverence to God is required. My entire
>family has left the Scouts, for religious reasons. We refuse to lie and
>claim to believe in a evil God. BTW I earned a Eagle Scout Rank before
>becoming honest.

Interesting.

Was this a local policy?

The Girl Scout organisation in the USA doesn't enforce the God bit the
way the Boy Scouts do.

To the extent that an alternative organisation called something like
the American Heritage Girls was formed that is specifically Christian.

Which is probably why the RCC is poking its nose into yet another area
that is none of its business.

Perhaps it was just the local troop?

[sbalneav]

In alt.atheism linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>

>> The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops sent an "official
>> inquiry" to the Girl Scouts of the USA.
>

> They're just trying to turn little girls into young women. They didn't
> expect the Spanish Inquisition.

What weapons do they have at their disposal?

[sbalneav]

In alt.atheism duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 May 2012 07:04:05 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>
>>Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>
>>> The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops sent an "official
>>> inquiry" to the Girl Scouts of the USA.
>>
>>They're just trying to turn little girls into young women. They didn't
>>expect the Spanish Inquisition.
>
> Young women that support abortion are evil young women.

Matthew 7:1-5

7 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge
others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured
to you.

3 "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no
attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, 'Let
me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your
own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then
you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

Some sound advice there, duke. Maybe you should follow it.

[sbalneav]

<crickets chirping>
<tubmleweed rolls lazily by>
<Vladimir & Estragon look down the road in expectation>

Well, duke?

[Uergil]

In article <f7s1r710j7q9jc9f0...@4ax.com>,

duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 13 May 2012 18:27:21 -0700, kni...@baawa.com wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 13 May 2012 08:43:34 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> ><nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>Catholic Bishops Are Investigating The Girl Scouts
> >>
> >>
> >>The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops sent an "official
> >>inquiry" to the Girl Scouts of the USA.
> >
> > Swell. Another really terrific organization about to be turned to
> >shit by religion.
>
> Right.

Glad you agree.

> 2008 - end of an error
> Vote in 2012
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson

[Uergil]

In article <q4s1r7h7ll7i0vca9...@4ax.com>,

duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 13 May 2012 17:33:51 +0000 (UTC), gaz...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny
> McCormack) wrote:
>
> >In article <pan.2012.05.13....@nowhere.invalid>,
> >MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> >...
> >>Even if you can't be a billionaire, you can at least VOTE like one!
> >
> >Indeed. It is amazing how many fools (aka, the GOP base) are motivated by
> >exactly that.
>

> We want jobs, less government, no medicare and all the other things our
> forefathers gave us.
> 2008 - end of an error
> Vote in 2012

What you as a repubilicon want is quite similar to what yo as an RC
want, to impose your shit on everyone.

[Mogons]

> Vote Republican in 2012- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

So you're publically announcing you plan on participating in Voter
Fraud? tsk tsk. and all this time you've claimed you're not a liar.

mogons

[Mogons]

On May 14, 4:47 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 May 2012 17:33:51 +0000 (UTC), gaze...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny
>
> McCormack) wrote:
> >In article <pan.2012.05.13.15.46.21.562...@nowhere.invalid>,

> >MarkA  <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> >...
> >>Even if you can't be a billionaire, you can at least VOTE like one!
>
> >Indeed.  It is amazing how many fools (aka, the GOP base) are motivated by
> >exactly that.
>
> We want jobs, less government, no buckwheatcare and all the other things our
> forefathers gave us that buckwheat is trying his damndest to destroy.
> 2012 - end of an error
> Vote Republican in 2012

You mean like prying his way into our bedrooms and telling us who we
can and can't marry? Taking a way a woman's right to choose? Those
kind of things?

mogons

[Patrick]

<kni...@baawa.com> wrote

> My god! There might be lesbian or (gasp) atheist Girl Scouts.
> We need to stamp this filth out! That's what god wants!

YEAH! Thas whut ahm tokkin bout!

[MarkA]

I think they plan to vote Republican, then move overseas, where the GOP is
sending all the jobs. After all, he didn't say he wanted jobs *in
America*, did he?

--
MarkA

If you can read this, you can stop reading now.

[Paul Duca]

On May 14, 7:47 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 May 2012 17:33:51 +0000 (UTC), gaze...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny
>
> McCormack) wrote:
> >In article <pan.2012.05.13.15.46.21.562...@nowhere.invalid>,

> >MarkA  <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> >...
> >>Even if you can't be a billionaire, you can at least VOTE like one!
>
> >Indeed.  It is amazing how many fools (aka, the GOP base) are motivated by
> >exactly that.
>

> We want jobs, money from the government, health care and all the other things our
> forefathers gave other people, who will pretend to reward us if we obey them

[Paul Duca]

On May 13, 11:46 am, MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 May 2012 10:28:29 -0500, duke wrote:
> > On Sun, 13 May 2012 08:43:34 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net>
> > wrote:
>
> >>Catholic Bishops Are Investigating The Girl Scouts
>
> >>The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops sent an "official inquiry" to the
> >>Girl Scouts of the USA.
>
> >>"The new inquiry will be conducted by the Bishop's committee on Laity,
> >>Marriage, Family Life and Youth. It will look into whether the Girl
> >>Scouts have "possible problematic relationships with other organizations"
> >>and problematic program materials. Conservative groups accused the Girl
> >>Scouts of associating with Planned Parenthood, which they deny, and
> >>giving girls access to information about sex and sexuality. The group
> >>says it takes no position on sexuality, birth control and abortion.
>
> >>"The Girl Scouts have been dogged by complaints - the Scouts call them
> >>distortions - for decades. This challenge from the Catholic Bishops is
> >>significant, because many of the troops are sponsored by Catholic
> >>parishes and about a quarter of all scouts are Catholic."
>
> > It's not nice for the high moral code of the Girl Scouts to pray around
> > with birth control and abortion.  They could lose their certification by
> > the RCC.
>
> What a tragedy THAT would be.
>

> > 2012 - end of an error
> > Vote Republican in 2012
>

> Even if you can't be a billionaire, you can at least VOTE like one!
>

> --
Remember--if you get a 1% raise...that make you a member of the 1%!

Paul

[Paul Duca]

On May 14, 7:42 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 May 2012 17:31:51 +0000 (UTC), gaze...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny
>
> McCormack) wrote:
> >In article <Q8OdnXK_yOrCfDLSnZ2dnUVZ_rWdn...@giganews.com>,

> >linuxgal  <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
> >...
> >>> Young women that support abortion are evil young women.
>
> >>Many people take the Biblical position that a human soul requires a body
> >>and spirit, with spirit defined as the breath of life, which does not
> >>enter the body of the baby until the doctor spanks it.  Since there are
> >>two conflicting opinions, US law defers to the woman, and she remains
> >>secure from unreasonable search and seizure of her person under the
> >>Fourth Amendment.
>
> >duke don't go in for any of that Amendment shit or that Constitution
> >garbage...
>

> Neither does God. If He did I wouldn't like Him NEARLY as much.

[Paul Duca]

On May 14, 7:50 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 May 2012 18:27:21 -0700, kni...@baawa.com wrote:
> >On Sun, 13 May 2012 08:43:34 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> ><nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> >>Catholic Bishops Are Investigating The Girl Scouts
>
> >>The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops sent an "official
> >>inquiry" to the Girl Scouts of the USA.
>
> >   Swell. Another really terrific organization about to be turned to
> >shit by religion.
>
> Right.  Then we'll have a new flourishing organization like the "Catholic Girl

> Scouts", because girls will join thinking God will give them rich husbands in return.

How will they earn their Nun merit badge?

Paul

[Paul Duca]

On May 14, 7:42 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 13 May 2012 09:26:38 -0700, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
> >duke wrote:

> >> On Sun, 13 May 2012 07:04:05 -0700, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>
> >>>> The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops sent an "official
> >>>> inquiry" to the Girl Scouts of the USA.
> >>> They're just trying to turn little girls into young women.  They didn't
> >>> expect the Spanish Inquisition.
>
> >> Young women that support abortion are evil young women.
>
> >Many people take the Biblical position that a human soul requires a body
> >and spirit
>

> I'll go with God, even though He'd prefer I didn't.

Paul
>

[default]

By holding an aspirin between their knees for eternity.

[duke]

On Sun, 13 May 2012 09:26:38 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:

>duke wrote:

>> On Sun, 13 May 2012 07:04:05 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>

>>>> The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops sent an "official
>>>> inquiry" to the Girl Scouts of the USA.

>>> They're just trying to turn little girls into young women. They didn't
>>> expect the Spanish Inquisition.
>>
>> Young women that support abortion are evil young women.
>
>Many people take the Biblical position that a human soul requires a body

>and spirit,

That's why they're mere humans. FYI, the soul is not an object, an organ. It
is a essence that all humans demonstrate by reflecting a preference for good
over bad, right over wrong, love over hate. It takes a human beings elective
action to turn away..

> with spirit defined as the breath of life, which does not
>enter the body of the baby until the doctor spanks it.

Nope, spirit is to be guided by above, at least good spirit. ONe can be guide
from below, like with satan..

> Since there are
>two conflicting opinions, US law defers to the woman, and she remains
>secure from unreasonable search and seizure of her person under the
>Fourth Amendment.

There are only conflicting opinions by mankind, not by God. And to invoke 4th
amendment means to be guided by mankind's weakness is setting criteria.
duke - American American
*****

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*****

[duke]

The same as if the child died instead as an old man.

[duke]

On Mon, 14 May 2012 16:58:20 +0000 (UTC), sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:

>In alt.atheism duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 May 2012 07:04:05 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>
>>>> The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops sent an "official
>>>> inquiry" to the Girl Scouts of the USA.
>>>
>>>They're just trying to turn little girls into young women. They didn't
>>>expect the Spanish Inquisition.
>>
>> Young women that support abortion are evil young women.

>Matthew 7:1-5
>7 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge
>others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured
>to you.

God already ruled they are evil.

>3 "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no
>attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, 'Let
>me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your
>own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then
>you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
>
>Some sound advice there, duke. Maybe you should follow it.
>
>> 2012 - end of an error
>> Vote Republican in 2012

duke - American American
*****

2012 - end of an error
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*****

[duke]

On Mon, 14 May 2012 07:44:48 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:

>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>news:q4s1r7h7ll7i0vca9...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sun, 13 May 2012 17:33:51 +0000 (UTC), gaz...@shell.xmission.com
>> (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <pan.2012.05.13....@nowhere.invalid>,
>>>MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>>...
>>>>Even if you can't be a billionaire, you can at least VOTE like one!
>>>
>>>Indeed. It is amazing how many fools (aka, the GOP base) are
>>>motivated by exactly that.
>>
>> We want jobs, less government,

> So why would you vote Republican?

Because under buckwheat, we have achieved an unemployment/underemployment of 23
million Americans.

>Bush administration increased the number of new pages in
>the Federal Registry, a proxy for economic regulation,
>from 64,438 new pages in 2001 to 78,090 in new pages
>in 2007, a record amount of regulation. Economically
>significant regulations, defined as regulations which
>cost more than $100 million a year, increased by 70%.
>Spending on regulation increased by 62% from $26.4
>billion to $42.7 billion.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/2fuvm3v
>
>

duke - American American
*****

2012 - end of an error
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*****

[duke]

God already ruled that.

>Taking a way a woman's right to choose? Those
>kind of things?
>mogons

Women don't have a civil only right to choose except in the USofA.

duke - American American
*****

2012 - end of an error
Vote Republican in 2012

*****

[Mike Lovell]

On 2012-05-15, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> God already ruled they are evil.

Yes he does that quite a bit. Especially when ordering the deaths of
infants and newborns.

There are some pretty evil newborns out there!

--
Jews, Christians & Muslims
The content of your posts will show how much you
really believe God is looking over your shoulder

[Mike Lovell]

On 2012-05-15, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>>> We want jobs, less government, no buckwheatcare and all the other things our
>>> forefathers gave us that buckwheat is trying his damndest to destroy.
>>> 2012 - end of an error
>>> Vote Republican in 2012
>>
>>You mean like prying his way into our bedrooms and telling us who we
>>can and can't marry?
>
> God already ruled that.

First Amendment ;-)

> [...]
> duke - American American
> [...]

Who wants to tear up the US Constitution

> [...]
> Vote Republican in 2012
> [...]

If you hate the Founding Fathers.

[Mogons]

On May 15, 8:26 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:

> *****- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Where do you get your information? Out of your ass? From
http://www.abortionfacts.com/statistics/world_statistics.asp

"54 countries allow abortion, which is about 61 percent of the world
population. 97 countries, about 39 percent of the population, have
abortion laws that make it illegal "

mogons

[Mitchell Holman]

duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:a9t4r7p99u6hg4581...@4ax.com:

> On Mon, 14 May 2012 07:44:48 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>>news:q4s1r7h7ll7i0vca9...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sun, 13 May 2012 17:33:51 +0000 (UTC), gaz...@shell.xmission.com
>>> (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <pan.2012.05.13....@nowhere.invalid>,
>>>>MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>...
>>>>>Even if you can't be a billionaire, you can at least VOTE like one!
>>>>
>>>>Indeed. It is amazing how many fools (aka, the GOP base) are
>>>>motivated by exactly that.
>>>
>>> We want jobs, less government,
>
>> So why would you vote Republican?
>
> Because under buckwheat, we have achieved an
> unemployment/underemployment of 23 million Americans.
>

Where was your complain when Bush doubled the
unemployment rate, something even Obama hasn't done?

[SkyEyes]

That's *exactly* where he gets his info from. Out of his ass (or out
of his priest's ass).

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com

[SkyEyes]

On May 15, 8:26 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 14 May 2012 12:21:20 -0700 (PDT), Mogons <mogon...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 14, 4:47 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 13 May 2012 17:33:51 +0000 (UTC), gaze...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny
>
> >> McCormack) wrote:
> >> >In article <pan.2012.05.13.15.46.21.562...@nowhere.invalid>,
> >> >MarkA  <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> >> >...
> >> >>Even if you can't be a billionaire, you can at least VOTE like one!
>
> >> >Indeed.  It is amazing how many fools (aka, the GOP base) are motivated by
> >> >exactly that.
>
> >> We want jobs, less government, no buckwheatcare and all the other things our
> >> forefathers gave us that buckwheat is trying his damndest to destroy.
> >> 2012 - end of an error
> >> Vote Republican in 2012
>
> >You mean like prying his way into our bedrooms and telling us who we
> >can and can't marry?
>
> God already ruled that.
>
> >Taking a way a woman's right to choose? Those
> >kind of things?
> >mogons
>
> Women don't have a civil only right to choose except in the USofA.
> duke - American American

Sure they do. They have that right in the U.K., which is where I got
my scrape in 1974, at a clinic less than an hour's drive outside of
London.

[duke]

On Tue, 15 May 2012 10:32:19 -0500, Mike Lovell <mike....@null.local> wrote:

>On 2012-05-15, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> God already ruled they are evil.

>Yes he does that quite a bit. Especially when ordering the deaths of
>infants and newborns.
>There are some pretty evil newborns out there!

He doesn't order the death of infants or newborns any more than he does that
100% of all human beings will die.

[duke]

On Tue, 15 May 2012 16:22:54 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:

>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>news:a9t4r7p99u6hg4581...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 14 May 2012 07:44:48 -0500, Mitchell Holman
>> <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>>>news:q4s1r7h7ll7i0vca9...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 13 May 2012 17:33:51 +0000 (UTC), gaz...@shell.xmission.com
>>>> (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In article <pan.2012.05.13....@nowhere.invalid>,
>>>>>MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>...
>>>>>>Even if you can't be a billionaire, you can at least VOTE like one!
>>>>>
>>>>>Indeed. It is amazing how many fools (aka, the GOP base) are
>>>>>motivated by exactly that.
>>>>
>>>> We want jobs, less government,
>>
>>> So why would you vote Republican?
>>
>> Because under buckwheat, we have achieved an
>> unemployment/underemployment of 23 million Americans.

> Where was your complain when Bush doubled the
>unemployment rate, something even Obama hasn't done?

President Bush did no such thing. The collapse of the housing market thanks to
'rats carter, clinton, and bfrank were the cause. And more specifically, thanks
to zero leadership from buckwheat, the deficit has sat at $1.3 trillion for the
last 3 years, and the unemployed/underemployed now sits at 23,000,000 workers

Buckwheat is a barf bag of a pres.

[duke]

On Tue, 15 May 2012 10:40:41 -0500, Mike Lovell <mike....@null.local> wrote:

>On 2012-05-15, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> We want jobs, less government, no buckwheatcare and all the other things our
>>>> forefathers gave us that buckwheat is trying his damndest to destroy.
>>>> 2012 - end of an error
>>>> Vote Republican in 2012
>>>
>>>You mean like prying his way into our bedrooms and telling us who we
>>>can and can't marry?
>>
>> God already ruled that.
>
>First Amendment ;-)

Exactly, quit interfering with religious faith.

duke - American American
*****

2012 - end of an error
Vote Republican in 2012

*****

[duke]

On Tue, 15 May 2012 08:59:10 -0700 (PDT), Mogons <mogo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On May 15, 8:26 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 May 2012 12:21:20 -0700 (PDT), Mogons <mogon...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On May 14, 4:47 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 13 May 2012 17:33:51 +0000 (UTC), gaze...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny
>>
>> >> McCormack) wrote:
>> >> >In article <pan.2012.05.13.15.46.21.562...@nowhere.invalid>,
>> >> >MarkA  <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>> >> >...
>> >> >>Even if you can't be a billionaire, you can at least VOTE like one!
>>
>> >> >Indeed.  It is amazing how many fools (aka, the GOP base) are motivated by
>> >> >exactly that.
>>
>> >> We want jobs, less government, no buckwheatcare and all the other things our
>> >> forefathers gave us that buckwheat is trying his damndest to destroy.
>> >> 2012 - end of an error
>> >> Vote Republican in 2012
>>
>> >You mean like prying his way into our bedrooms and telling us who we
>> >can and can't marry?
>>
>> God already ruled that.
>>
>> >Taking a way a woman's right to choose? Those
>> >kind of things?
>> >mogons
>>
>> Women don't have a civil only right to choose except in the USofA.

>Where do you get your information? Out of your ass? From
>http://www.abortionfacts.com/statistics/world_statistics.asp

NKorea doesn't interest me.

>"54 countries allow abortion, which is about 61 percent of the world
>population. 97 countries, about 39 percent of the population, have
>abortion laws that make it illegal "
>mogons

[duke]

Or out of your's. I don't have a say-so in NKorea.

[duke]

Ah, so THAT'S where you got your free ticket to hell!!

duke - American American

*****

2012 - end of an error
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[duke]

On Tue, 15 May 2012 10:32:19 -0500, Mike Lovell <mike....@null.local> wrote:

>On 2012-05-15, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> God already ruled they are evil.
>
>Yes he does that quite a bit. Especially when ordering the deaths of
>infants and newborns.

Everybody dies - unborn, newborn, child, adult, elderly, war, murder,
pestilence.

>There are some pretty evil newborns out there!

Which is why we Catholics baptize infants.

[duke]

On Tue, 15 May 2012 10:40:41 -0500, Mike Lovell <mike....@null.local> wrote:

>On 2012-05-15, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> We want jobs, less government, no buckwheatcare and all the other things our
>>>> forefathers gave us that buckwheat is trying his damndest to destroy.
>>>> 2012 - end of an error
>>>> Vote Republican in 2012
>>>
>>>You mean like prying his way into our bedrooms and telling us who we
>>>can and can't marry?
>>
>> God already ruled that.
>
>First Amendment ;-)

Right, thou shall not hinder the free exercise of religious faith.

duke - American American

*****

2012 - end of an error
Vote Republican in 2012

*****

[Mitchell Holman]

duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:uh37r754gm44q3rng...@4ax.com:

See what I mean? Bush is blameless in all,
things, everything screwed up on his watch is
someone else's fault.

It figures that you are a religious nutter,
common sense is beyond you.



Bush -
Arrested for theft
Arrested for vandalism
Arrested and convicted for drunk driving

Cheney -
Arrested and convicted for drunk driving.
Twice......

[Mitchell Holman]

duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:sf37r75auf5ocjr9h...@4ax.com:

> On Tue, 15 May 2012 10:32:19 -0500, Mike Lovell
> <mike....@null.local> wrote:
>
>>On 2012-05-15, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> God already ruled they are evil.
>
>>Yes he does that quite a bit. Especially when ordering the deaths of
>>infants and newborns.
>>There are some pretty evil newborns out there!
>
> He doesn't order the death of infants or newborns any more than he
> does that 100% of all human beings will die.

He doesn't just order it, he carries it out.

Dang, don't you guys ever read your Bible?






Thus saith the LORD, About midnight will I go out into
the midst of Egypt. And all the firstborn in the land of
Egypt shall die, from the first born of Pharaoh that sitteth
upon his throne, even unto the firstborn of the maidservant
that is behind the mill; and all the firstborn of beasts.
Exodus 11:4

[Mitchell Holman]

duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:q757r7ls2s2tgoojb...@4ax.com:

> On Tue, 15 May 2012 10:32:19 -0500, Mike Lovell
> <mike....@null.local> wrote:
>
>>On 2012-05-15, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> God already ruled they are evil.
>>
>>Yes he does that quite a bit. Especially when ordering the deaths of
>>infants and newborns.
>
> Everybody dies - unborn, newborn, child, adult, elderly, war, murder,
> pestilence.
>
>>There are some pretty evil newborns out there!
>
> Which is why we Catholics baptize infants.

Funny how that fails to prevent them from
becoming Pedophile Priest. Stale holy water,
perhaps?

[Mogons]

On May 16, 4:54 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 15 May 2012 10:40:41 -0500, Mike Lovell <mike.lov...@null.local> wrote:

> >On 2012-05-15, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>> We want jobs, less government, no buckwheatcare and all the other things our
> >>>> forefathers gave us that buckwheat is trying his damndest to destroy.
> >>>> 2012 - end of an error
> >>>> Vote Republican in 2012
>
> >>>You mean like prying his way into our bedrooms and telling us who we
> >>>can and can't marry?
>
> >> God already ruled that.
>
> >First Amendment ;-)
>
> Right, thou shall not hinder the free exercise of religious faith.
>
> duke - American American
>
> *****
> 2012 - end of an error
> Vote Republican in 2012
> *****

Yet Christians are more than willing to hinder the free exercise of
those with a different or a LACK of religous faith.

mogons

[Mogons]

On May 16, 4:28 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 15 May 2012 10:40:41 -0500, Mike Lovell <mike.lov...@null.local> wrote:

> >On 2012-05-15, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>> We want jobs, less government, no buckwheatcare and all the other things our
> >>>> forefathers gave us that buckwheat is trying his damndest to destroy.
> >>>> 2012 - end of an error
> >>>> Vote Republican in 2012
>
> >>>You mean like prying his way into our bedrooms and telling us who we
> >>>can and can't marry?
>
> >> God already ruled that.
>
> >First Amendment ;-)
>
> Exactly, quit interfering with religious faith.
>
> duke - American American
> *****
> 2012 - end of an error
> Vote Republican in 2012
> *****

Then Christians need to quit interfering with those whose faith is not
Christian. No one is FORCING Christians to have abortions or have same
sex marrages. It's the Christians who are trying to force others to
bend to the Christian belief system. If they lived in Afganastan
they'd be knows as the Taliban.

mogons


mogons

[Mogons]

On May 16, 4:30 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:

North Korea doesn't really interet me either. What does interest me
though is your total lack of knowledge and your willingness to make
yourself look like an idiot on the internet.

mogons

[harry k]

On May 14, 4:42 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 May 2012 09:26:38 -0700, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
> >duke wrote:

> >> On Sun, 13 May 2012 07:04:05 -0700, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>
> >>>> The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops sent an "official
> >>>> inquiry" to the Girl Scouts of the USA.
> >>> They're just trying to turn little girls into young women.  They didn't
> >>> expect the Spanish Inquisition.
>
> >> Young women that support abortion are evil young women.
>

> >Many people take the Biblical position that a human soul requires a body
> >and spirit
>

> I'll go with God.

>
> > with spirit defined as the breath of life, which does not
> >enter the body of the baby until the doctor spanks it.
>

> Cool, but the first cell division still takes oxygen as does the rest of the
> development leading to birth.  First breathe is a physical action, not a
> spiritual action.  As a newborn is a gift of God, so is it's preparation.
> Genesis says God breathed physical life into first mankind.  John 20 says Jesus
> breathed spiritual life into first mankind.  There's only two "breathes" in the
> bible.
>
> So firstly, we have the separation of the chemicals, 50% in man (sperm) and 50%
> in woman (egg) brought together via mutually shaped organs via a most intense
> level of excitement.
>
> Secondly, you have a cell split that is human from the getgo.  There is no dog
> or mosquito to result.

>
> >  Since there are
> >two conflicting opinions, US law defers to the woman, and she remains
> >secure from unreasonable search and seizure of her person under the
> >Fourth Amendment.
>

> There, you just lost it.  You invoke "human law" and specify it valid for
> spiritual law.

> 2012 - end of an error
> Vote Republican in 2012

So what happens to all those souls that were implanted t the moment of
conception but the fetus spontaneiously aborted early in development.
IIRC a very high percentage of implanted, fertilized eggs
spontaneously abort before there are even any signs of pregnancey.

Harry K

[Don Martin]

Mogons <mogo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 16, 4:30 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:

<snip>

>> duke - American American
>>
>> *****
>> 2012 - end of an error
>> Vote Republican in 2012
>> *****
>
> North Korea doesn't really interet me either. What does interest me
> though is your total lack of knowledge and your willingness to make
> yourself look like an idiot on the internet.

Please don't limit him so--he looks like an idiot _everywhere_.

--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
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[Mike Lovell]

On 2012-05-16, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>First Amendment ;-)
>
> Right, thou shall not hinder the free exercise of religious faith.

Read the constitution, you obviously don't know what the First
Amendment is for.

[W.T.S.]

In article <8047r7lp7fklnif3a...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...

Why? The woman is a living Saint for doing the right thing and getting
rid of fetus filth before it could become child filth. She should be an
example for all women. Abortion is beautiful.
>
> duke - CatholiKKK Con Man.

>
> *****
> 2012 - end of an error

> Vote Democrat in 2012, take back the House!
> *****


Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
http://tinyurl.com/7q2ft38

[Christopher A. Lee]

On Wed, 16 May 2012 12:21:35 -0500, Mike Lovell
<mike....@null.local> wrote:

>On 2012-05-16, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>First Amendment ;-)
>>
>> Right, thou shall not hinder the free exercise of religious faith.
>
>Read the constitution, you obviously don't know what the First
>Amendment is for.

Morons like this imagine that because their religion includes making
others join in, and that when they are prevented from imposing it this
abridges their First Amendment freedoms of both speech and religion.

They can't grasp that the First Amen dent also applies to everybody
else's freedom of religious conscience.

Or that it doesn't force people to listen.

[Patrick]

"harry k" <turnk...@hotmail.com> wrote

So what happens to all those souls that were implanted t the moment of
conception but the fetus spontaneiously aborted early in development.
IIRC a very high percentage of implanted, fertilized eggs
spontaneously abort before there are even any signs of pregnancey.

+ That seems to be the prevailing argument of atheists.
+ All you whining atheists must use the same playbook.

+ Doctors, bishops agree: Life begins at fertilization.
+ I remember a principle in elementary logic that says,
"A statement which is affirmed without proof can be denied without proof."
So anybody can challenge that statement without offering any proof, either.

[Mike Painter]

On 5/16/2012 11:56 AM, Patrick wrote:
> "harry k"<turnk...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
> So what happens to all those souls that were implanted t the moment of
> conception but the fetus spontaneiously aborted early in development.
> IIRC a very high percentage of implanted, fertilized eggs
> spontaneously abort before there are even any signs of pregnancey.
>
> + That seems to be the prevailing argument of atheists.
> + All you whining atheists must use the same playbook.

Yes, it's called science and the rules are the same for everybody.
Two thirds to three fourths is the estimate of aborted embryos.

Many fundamentalists damn them to hell.
Catholics used to send them to limbo.
What's the current official; version and what is your current idea?

[Paul Duca]

On May 15, 11:25 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 14 May 2012 07:44:48 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:

> >duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in
> >news:q4s1r7h7ll7i0vca9...@4ax.com:

>
> >> On Sun, 13 May 2012 17:33:51 +0000 (UTC), gaze...@shell.xmission.com
> >> (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
>
> >>>In article <pan.2012.05.13.15.46.21.562...@nowhere.invalid>,
> >>>MarkA  <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> >>>...
> >>>>Even if you can't be a billionaire, you can at least VOTE like one!
>
> >>>Indeed.  It is amazing how many fools (aka, the GOP base) are
> >>>motivated by exactly that.
>
> >> We want jobs, less government,

> >   So why would you vote Republican?
>
> Because under buckwheat, we have achieved an unemployment/underemployment of 23

> million Americans...and some of them are white. Otherwise, I wouldn't give a shit.
>

[Paul Duca]

On May 16, 7:27 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 15 May 2012 16:22:54 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:

> >duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in

> >news:a9t4r7p99u6hg4581...@4ax.com:
>
> >> On Mon, 14 May 2012 07:44:48 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> >> <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>

> >>>duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in
> >>>news:q4s1r7h7ll7i0vca9...@4ax.com:
>
> >>>> On Sun, 13 May 2012 17:33:51 +0000 (UTC), gaze...@shell.xmission.com
> >>>> (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
>
> >>>>>In article <pan.2012.05.13.15.46.21.562...@nowhere.invalid>,

> >>>>>MarkA  <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>...
> >>>>>>Even if you can't be a billionaire, you can at least VOTE like one!
>
> >>>>>Indeed.  It is amazing how many fools (aka, the GOP base) are
> >>>>>motivated by exactly that.
>
> >>>> We want jobs, less government,
>
> >>>   So why would you vote Republican?
>
> >> Because under buckwheat, we have achieved an
> >> unemployment/underemployment of 23 million Americans.
> >     Where was your complain when Bush doubled the
> >unemployment rate, something even Obama hasn't done?
>
> President Bush did no such thing.  The collapse of the housing market thanks to
> 'rats carter, clinton, and bfrank were the cause.  And more specifically, thanks
> to zero leadership from buckwheat, the deficit has sat at $1.3 trillion for the
> last 3 years, and the unemployed/underemployed now sits at 23,000,000 workers
>

I thought you were retired...so why do you care?

Paul

[Paul Duca]

On May 14, 7:46 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 May 2012 11:46:22 -0400, MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> >On Sun, 13 May 2012 10:28:29 -0500, duke wrote:
>
> >> On Sun, 13 May 2012 08:43:34 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>Catholic Bishops Are Investigating The Girl Scouts

>
> >>>The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops sent an "official inquiry" to the
> >>>Girl Scouts of the USA.
>

> >>>"The new inquiry will be conducted by the Bishop's committee on Laity,
> >>>Marriage, Family Life and Youth. It will look into whether the Girl
> >>>Scouts have "possible problematic relationships with other organizations"
> >>>and problematic program materials. Conservative groups accused the Girl
> >>>Scouts of associating with Planned Parenthood, which they deny, and
> >>>giving girls access to information about sex and sexuality. The group
> >>>says it takes no position on sexuality, birth control and abortion.
>
> >>>"The Girl Scouts have been dogged by complaints - the Scouts call them
> >>>distortions - for decades. This challenge from the Catholic Bishops is
> >>>significant, because many of the troops are sponsored by Catholic
> >>>parishes and about a quarter of all scouts are Catholic."
>
> >> It's not nice for the high moral code of the Girl Scouts to pray around
> >> with birth control and abortion.  They could lose their certification by
> >> the RCC.
> >What a tragedy THAT would be.
>
> It would clearly massively reduce their numbers.

>
> >> 2012 - end of an error
> >> Vote Republican in 2012

> >Even if you can't be a billionaire, you can at least VOTE like one!
>

> Oh, I intend to vote 8-10 times, maybe even a half-dozen. I'm told I get paid a dollar each time!

[Seth lePod]

On May 16, 11:56 am, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
> "harry k" <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote

:
> So what happens to all those souls that were implanted t the moment of
> conception but the fetus spontaneiously aborted early in development.
> IIRC a very high percentage of implanted, fertilized eggs
> spontaneously abort before there are even any signs of pregnancey.

:
> + That seems to be the prevailing argument of atheists.
> + All you whining atheists must use the same playbook.

Where can I get one of those? Could save me some
time and effort here, sounds like.

The reason it's a "prevailing argument" is because
a minute's reflection on the claim that god
ensouls humans at the moment of contraception,
along with a rudimentry understanding of human
reproduction, smacks you right in the face with
the unsettling realization that most of these
"persons" die before they can ever get born.

Anyone who didn't realize that on their own is not
paying attention. If I believed the "soul"
silliness, I wouldn't be able to sleep nights.

:

> + Doctors, bishops agree: Life begins at fertilization.

Really? "Doctors". How many would that be? Two
minimum, I suppose. Got a list?

Actually, I don't care how many: life does not
"begin" at conception; life began over four
billion years ago, and each living sperm and each
living ovum is the recipient of an unbroken chain
of life reaching back that far.

Playing silly word games by trying to substitute
"life" for "humanity" is either ignorant or
dishonest. You choose.

Incidentally: when is the exact instant of this
"fertilization" you speak of? When the sperm
penetrates the corona radiata? The zona pelludica?
When the two haploid sets combine? Stage One
Mitosis? When?


Seth

[duke]

See what I mean. You're clueless to what actually happened and who is actually
to blame.

[duke]

>North Korea doesn't really interet me either. What does interest me
>though is your total lack of knowledge and your willingness to make
>yourself look like an idiot on the internet.
>mogons

Then again I have sense enough to speak about my country and not the world.

[Mitchell Holman]

duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:toj9r7d5ljmv3d8md...@4ax.com:

Nov 4, 2008 - the day when everything went
from being Clinton's fault to being Obama's fault.

[Patrick]

"Mike Painter" <md.pa...@sbcglobal.net> wrote ..

> On 5/16/2012 11:56 AM, Patrick wrote:
>> "harry k"<turnk...@hotmail.com> wrote
>>
>> So what happens to all those souls that were implanted t the moment of
>> conception but the fetus spontaneiously aborted early in development.
>> IIRC a very high percentage of implanted, fertilized eggs
>> spontaneously abort before there are even any signs of pregnancey.
>>
>> + That seems to be the prevailing argument of atheists.
>> + All you whining atheists must use the same playbook.
>
> Yes, it's called science and the rules are the same for everybody.
> Two thirds to three fourths is the estimate of aborted embryos.
>
> Many fundamentalists damn them to hell.
> Catholics used to send them to limbo.
> What's the current official; version and what is your current idea?

It is people like you (who demand answers) that cause
others to try to come up with silly answers.
In all actuality, no one knows the mind of God.
We know what He has said (through others).
However, No One knows.

Limbo was NEVER Catholic dogma. Instead, it was a hypothesis --
a theory held out as a possible way to balance the Christian belief
in the necessity of baptism with belief in God's mercy. Like hypotheses
in any branch of science, a theological hypothesis can be proven wrong
or be set aside when it is clear it does not help explain Catholic faith.
http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0506867.htm

Redemptorist Father Tony Kelly, an Australian member of the commission, told
Catholic News Service "the limbo hypothesis was the common teaching of the
church until the 1950s. In the past 50 years, it was just quietly dropped.
"We all smiled a bit when we were presented with this question, but then we
saw how many important questions it opened," including questions about the
power of God's love, the existence of original sin and the need for baptism,
he said. "Pastorally and catechistically, the matter had been solved" with
an affirmation that somehow God in his great love and mercy would ensure
unbaptized babies enjoyed eternal life with him in heaven, "but we had to
backtrack and do the theology," Father Kelly said.

[Patrick]

"Seth lePod" <v.infe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:30cc5b2c-a884-4f20...@v24g2000vbx.googlegroups.com...

On May 16, 11:56 am, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
> "harry k" <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote

:
> So what happens to all those souls that were implanted t the moment of
> conception but the fetus spontaneiously aborted early in development.
> IIRC a very high percentage of implanted, fertilized eggs
> spontaneously abort before there are even any signs of pregnancey.

:
> + That seems to be the prevailing argument of atheists.
> + All you whining atheists must use the same playbook.

Where can I get one of those? Could save me some
time and effort here, sounds like.

+ Look up "Chick tracts."
+ Those are full of Catholic bashing literature.

The reason it's a "prevailing argument" is because
a minute's reflection on the claim that god
ensouls humans at the moment of contraception,
along with a rudimentry understanding of human
reproduction, smacks you right in the face with
the unsettling realization that most of these
"persons" die before they can ever get born.
Anyone who didn't realize that on their own is not
paying attention. If I believed the "soul"
silliness, I wouldn't be able to sleep nights.

+ I'm sorry to hear this.
+ Good luck in your discussions at your final judgement.

> + Doctors, bishops agree: Life begins at fertilization.

Really? "Doctors". How many would that be? Two
minimum, I suppose. Got a list?
Actually, I don't care how many: life does not
"begin" at conception; life began over four
billion years ago, and each living sperm and each
living ovum is the recipient of an unbroken chain
of life reaching back that far.

+ Were you alive 4 billion years ago?

Playing silly word games by trying to substitute
"life" for "humanity" is either ignorant or
dishonest. You choose.

+ Did your mom ever allow you to take
naked pictures of her? Yes or No. You choose.

Incidentally: when is the exact instant of this
"fertilization" you speak of? When the sperm
penetrates the corona radiata? The zona pelludica?
When the two haploid sets combine? Stage One
Mitosis? When?

+ You tell me. You seem to think you have all
the answers. I am waiting.

[• R. L. Measures.]

In article <XnsA05644F2753F0...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell

€€ Chortle. Good one Mitch.

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

[• R. L. Measures.]

In article <XZidnVPRC5JkcCnS...@posted.localnet>, "Patrick"

<bark...@erinot.com> wrote:

>"Mike Painter" <md.pa...@sbcglobal.net> wrote ..
>> On 5/16/2012 11:56 AM, Patrick wrote:
>>> "harry k"<turnk...@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>> So what happens to all those souls that were implanted t the moment of
>>> conception but the fetus spontaneiously aborted early in development.
>>> IIRC a very high percentage of implanted, fertilized eggs
>>> spontaneously abort before there are even any signs of pregnancey.
>>>
>>> + That seems to be the prevailing argument of atheists.
>>> + All you whining atheists must use the same playbook.
>>
>> Yes, it's called science and the rules are the same for everybody.
>> Two thirds to three fourths is the estimate of aborted embryos.
>>
>> Many fundamentalists damn them to hell.
>> Catholics used to send them to limbo.
>> What's the current official; version and what is your current idea?
>
>It is people like you (who demand answers) that cause
>others to try to come up with silly answers.
>In all actuality, no one knows the mind of God.
>We know what He has said (through others).
>However, No One knows.
>

>Limbo was NEVER Catholic dogma. Instead, it was a hypothesis -- ... ... ...

** To me Limbo was a not well thought-out guess that was intended to
increase business.

[Mogons]

On May 17, 3:15 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:

You wrote:

> Women don't have a civil only right to choose except in the USofA.

> duke - American American
> *****

That to me looks like you're saying only the women in US have the
right to legally get an abortion.
perhaps I misunderstood your meaning as your english is so poor.

mogons

[Lady Veteran]

On Wed, 16 May 2012 13:12:56 -0500, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

You forgot the fact about them become adult filth.

I am not pro-abortion. I would never have one. I am however, pro
choice. I think the choice should be there. The decision that one
makes is between the doctor, the woman and her Maker. No one else
should be involved.

>>
>> duke - CatholiKKK Con Man.
>>
>> *****
>> 2012 - end of an error
>> Vote Democrat in 2012, take back the House!
>> *****
>
>
>Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
>women and men alike!
>>
>http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>>
>http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>>
>http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>>
>http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>>
>http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>>
>Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>>
>Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
>complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
>have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
>abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
>expense.

Birth control is much better....

LV

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[Mike Painter]

Until the 50's (at least 1957) it was taught in Catholic schools as
though it was the gospel truth.
Perhaps the priests and nuns were totally ignorant of what the "truth"
was but it was taught as dogma.

As for "it was a hypothesis -- a theory held out ... "
You have the concepts backwards hypothesis leads to theory and in
science it would never had been a theory or a hypothesis.

It was, as is all ideas about gods and afterlife, at best a guess based
on what people wanted.

[Patrick]

". R. L. Measures." <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
news:rL-170512...@10.0.1.3...

I agree.
I'm sure it was meant to shut some people (with BIG questions) up.

[Patrick]

"Mike Painter" <md.pa...@sbcglobal.net> wrote ...

According to you.
It was taught merely to answer questions in inquiring minds.
No one likes to admit that they don't KNOW the mind of God.
It is sometimes easier to just make something up.

> Perhaps the priests and nuns were totally ignorant of what the "truth" was
> but it was taught as dogma.

No one wants to admit the "truth" that they don't know an answer.
It is easier to repeat something that has been whispered before.

> As for "it was a hypothesis -- a theory held out ... "
> You have the concepts backwards hypothesis leads to theory and in science
> it would never had been a theory or a hypothesis.

I don't buy your answer.

> It was, as is all ideas about gods and afterlife, at best a guess based on
> what people wanted.

Yes, that is true.

[• R. L. Measures.]

In article <XqednWKrepcr-yjS...@posted.localnet>, "Patrick"

** It prompted parents of newborns to have them baptised ASAP.

>I'm sure it was meant to shut some people (with BIG questions) up.

[• R. L. Measures.]

In article <e7adnecM0Ioq-ijS...@posted.localnet>, "Patrick"

** I have respect for those who do not open their mouth when they do not
know the answer.

>
>> Perhaps the priests and nuns were totally ignorant of what the "truth" was
>> but it was taught as dogma.
>
>No one wants to admit the "truth" that they don't know an answer.

** Indeed - but it's the wisest thing to do.

>It is easier to repeat something that has been whispered before.
>
>
>
>> As for "it was a hypothesis -- a theory held out ... "
>> You have the concepts backwards hypothesis leads to theory and in science
>> it would never had been a theory or a hypothesis.
>
>I don't buy your answer.
>
>
>> It was, as is all ideas about gods and afterlife, at best a guess based on
>> what people wanted.
>
>Yes, that is true.

[Mike Painter]

On 5/17/2012 2:03 PM, Patrick wrote:
>> > Until the 50's (at least 1957) it was taught in Catholic schools as though
>> > it was the gospel truth.
> According to you.
> It was taught merely to answer questions in inquiring minds.
> No one likes to admit that they don't KNOW the mind of God.
> It is sometimes easier to just make something up.
>
>

Perhaps in your world.
I've made a lot of money because of people who made things up.

The new client would ask a question and I'd say "I don't know." They
would *always* tell me that the other guy did and I would always ask why
they hired me. Usually they got the message.

[Seth lePod]

On May 17, 5:28 am, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
> "Seth lePod" <v.inferna...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:30cc5b2c-a884-4f20...@v24g2000vbx.googlegroups.com...
> On May 16, 11:56 am, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
>
> > "harry k" <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
> :
>
> > So what happens to all those souls that were implanted t the moment of
> > conception but the fetus spontaneiously aborted early in development.
> > IIRC a very high percentage of implanted, fertilized eggs
> > spontaneously abort before there are even any signs of pregnancey.
>
> :
>
> > + That seems to be the prevailing argument of atheists.
> > + All you whining atheists must use the same playbook.
>
> Where can I get one of those?  Could save me some
> time and effort here, sounds like.
>



> + Look up "Chick tracts."
> + Those are full of Catholic bashing literature.

I'm quite aware of Chick tracts, including the
ones you refer to.

There are perhaps one Catholic bashing tract for
every twenty bashing non-believers -- such as
myself -- in general.

But you know? No Chick tract raises the argument I
did, that your beliefs on this, combined with
biological fact, inevitably leads to the
conclusion that hundreds of thousands of "ensouled
human beings" die every single day, utterly
unnoticed.

Quite the opposite: I am aware of at least two
tracts that take your point of view on abortion.
In other words: they're on your side.

Isn't that just so nice? You should send Jack a
fan letter. Or maybe even order a 1000-pack and
hand them out yourself.

Does this smug and condescending attitude one
apparently acquires at the thought of having the
Cosmic Get Out of Jail Free Card dictate that one
must always make snarky non-replies to substantive
points ... or is it just you?


Seth

[Seth lePod]

On May 17, 5:28 am, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:

> "Seth lePod" <v.inferna...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:30cc5b2c-a884-4f20...@v24g2000vbx.googlegroups.com...
> On May 16, 11:56 am, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
>
> > "harry k" <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
> :
>
> > So what happens to all those souls that were implanted t the moment of
> > conception but the fetus spontaneiously aborted early in development.
> > IIRC a very high percentage of implanted, fertilized eggs
> > spontaneously abort before there are even any signs of pregnancey.
>
> :
>
> > + That seems to be the prevailing argument of atheists.
> > + All you whining atheists must use the same playbook.

:
> Where can I get one of those?  Could save me some
> time and effort here, sounds like.

:
> + Look up "Chick tracts."
> + Those are full of Catholic bashing literature.

Oh, and by the way? If you think I'm here to
bash Catholicism, you are mistaken.

My motivation is to point out the oppressive
actions of anyone who would deny a woman
her right to choose based on the utterly absurd
notion that the instant a sperm penetrates an
ovum, another person is abruptly in the room.

That's all. Other than that, if your religion,
whatever it might be, keeps its paws off
me and mine, I happily encourage you to
give yourself to your personal choice of the tens of
thousands of mythologies humans have
invented.

Seth

[� R. L. Measures.]

In article
<9c2c7baf-a107-41a4...@ec4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>, Seth
lePod <v.infe...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On May 17, 5:28=A0am, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
>> "Seth lePod" <v.inferna...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:30cc5b2c-a884-4f20...@v24g2000vbx.googlegroups.com...
>> On May 16, 11:56 am, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
>>
>> > "harry k" <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote
>>
>> :
>>
>> > So what happens to all those souls that were implanted t the moment of
>> > conception but the fetus spontaneiously aborted early in development.
>> > IIRC a very high percentage of implanted, fertilized eggs
>> > spontaneously abort before there are even any signs of pregnancey.
>>
>> :
>>
>> > + That seems to be the prevailing argument of atheists.
>> > + All you whining atheists must use the same playbook.
>>

>> Where can I get one of those? =A0Could save me some

>> time and effort here, sounds like.
>>
>
>
>
>> + Look up "Chick tracts."
>> + Those are full of Catholic bashing literature.
>
>I'm quite aware of Chick tracts, including the
>ones you refer to.
>
>There are perhaps one Catholic bashing tract for
>every twenty bashing non-believers -- such as
>myself -- in general.
>
>But you know? No Chick tract raises the argument I
>did, that your beliefs on this, combined with
>biological fact, inevitably leads to the
>conclusion that hundreds of thousands of "ensouled
>human beings" die every single day, utterly
>unnoticed.
>
>Quite the opposite: I am aware of at least two
>tracts that take your point of view on abortion.
>In other words: they're on your side.
>
>Isn't that just so nice? You should send Jack a
>fan letter. Or maybe even order a 1000-pack and
>hand them out yourself.
>

� Chortle. What? - and risk eternal, very-ouchy hellfire.
>>
>>...

[• R. L. Measures.]

In article
<e8ffb6a3-c6cb-4160...@oo8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>, Seth
lePod <v.infe...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On May 17, 5:28=A0am, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
>> "Seth lePod" <v.inferna...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:30cc5b2c-a884-4f20...@v24g2000vbx.googlegroups.com...
>> On May 16, 11:56 am, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
>>
>> > "harry k" <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote
>>
>> :
>>
>> > So what happens to all those souls that were implanted t the moment of
>> > conception but the fetus spontaneiously aborted early in development.
>> > IIRC a very high percentage of implanted, fertilized eggs
>> > spontaneously abort before there are even any signs of pregnancey.
>>
>> :
>>
>> > + That seems to be the prevailing argument of atheists.
>> > + All you whining atheists must use the same playbook.
>
>:

>> Where can I get one of those? =A0Could save me some

>> time and effort here, sounds like.
>
>:
>> + Look up "Chick tracts."
>> + Those are full of Catholic bashing literature.
>
>Oh, and by the way? If you think I'm here to
>bash Catholicism, you are mistaken.
>
>My motivation is to point out the oppressive
>actions of anyone who would deny a woman
>her right to choose based on the utterly absurd
>notion that the instant a sperm penetrates an
>ovum, another person is abruptly in the room.
>

АА RCism was not always this way Seth. During the 16th Century there
were several popes who pretty much left the decision up to the woman and
her physician.

[duke]

On Thu, 17 May 2012 21:43:55 -0700 (PDT), Seth lePod <v.infe...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On May 17, 5:28�am, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
>> "Seth lePod" <v.inferna...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:30cc5b2c-a884-4f20...@v24g2000vbx.googlegroups.com...
>> On May 16, 11:56 am, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote:
>>
>> > "harry k" <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote
>>
>> :
>>
>> > So what happens to all those souls that were implanted t the moment of
>> > conception but the fetus spontaneiously aborted early in development.
>> > IIRC a very high percentage of implanted, fertilized eggs
>> > spontaneously abort before there are even any signs of pregnancey.
>>
>> :
>>
>> > + That seems to be the prevailing argument of atheists.
>> > + All you whining atheists must use the same playbook.
>>
>> Where can I get one of those? �Could save me some
>> time and effort here, sounds like.
>>
>
>
>
>> + Look up "Chick tracts."
>> + Those are full of Catholic bashing literature.
>
>I'm quite aware of Chick tracts, including the
>ones you refer to.

>There are perhaps one Catholic bashing tract for
>every twenty bashing non-believers -- such as
>myself -- in general.

Nobody has ever heard of a non-believer ct.

>But you know? No Chick tract raises the argument I
>did, that your beliefs on this, combined with
>biological fact, inevitably leads to the
>conclusion that hundreds of thousands of "ensouled
>human beings" die every single day, utterly
>unnoticed.

WE Catholics understand that. It comes with education. Although it's now time
for you to reveal where you got "hundreds of thousands" which you are now
claiming as your own number.

>Quite the opposite: I am aware of at least two
>tracts that take your point of view on abortion.
>In other words: they're on your side.

Abortion is evil, and the practioner faces the fires of hell.

>> + You tell me. �You seem to think you have all
>> the answers. �I am waiting.

Patrick, he's just going to scarf somebody else's words and keep them as his
own.

>Does this smug and condescending attitude one
>apparently acquires at the thought of having the
>Cosmic Get Out of Jail Free Card dictate that one
>must always make snarky non-replies to substantive
>points ... or is it just you?
>
>
>Seth

duke - American American

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