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Disproving Creation: Life’s First Spark Re-Created in the Laboratory

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Budikka666

ungelesen,
10.05.2013, 00:33:5310.05.13
an
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/ribonucleotides/

Lying scum theists will lie that before this could happen, the
experiment had to be "designed", but the scientists DID NOTHING MORE
than to recreate conditions on Earth several billion years ago, and AS
ALL THE EVIDENCE SHOWS, when those conditions exist, life
spontaneously generates.

Now I don't want to hear one single word of whining from the
creationists UNLESS IT'S ACCOMPANIED BY THE SAME WEIGHT OF EVIDENCE
FOR A CREATOR OR FOR A CREATION which now exists for abiogensis and
for evolution.

Got that you worthless, cowardly, hypocritical, lying, spineless
creationist scum?

Budikka

Andrew

ungelesen,
18.05.2013, 18:27:5618.05.13
an
"Budikka666" wrote in message news:ccb1d9aa-cc4d-4f51...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
There is a vast difference between what you call "precursor
molecules" and RNA. RNA is synthesized only in cells that
are already alive.

Also, the nucleotides (of which RNA is made) require for
-their- synthesis the mechanism to do so that is in ~living~
cells.

RNA is functional only in the DNA/RNA bio-mechanism
called protein synthesis. It would be nonfunctional by itself
in the fantasized prebiotic soup.

Therefore your position is shown to be based upon fantasy.


SPQR

ungelesen,
18.05.2013, 18:49:5918.05.13
an
In article <6I-dnRtTX7X1nQXM...@earthlink.com>,
"Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net> wrote:

> "Budikka666" wrote in message
> news:ccb1d9aa-cc4d-4f51...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> > http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/ribonucleotides/
> >
> > Lying scum theists will lie that before this could happen, the
> > experiment had to be "designed", but the scientists DID NOTHING MORE
> > than to recreate conditions on Earth several billion years ago, and AS
> > ALL THE EVIDENCE SHOWS, when those conditions exist, life
> > spontaneously generates.
> >
> > Now I don't want to hear one single word of whining from the
> > creationists UNLESS IT'S ACCOMPANIED BY THE SAME WEIGHT OF EVIDENCE
> > FOR A CREATOR OR FOR A CREATION which now exists for abiogensis and
> > for evolution.
> >
> > Got that you worthless, cowardly, hypocritical, lying, spineless
> > creationist scum?
> >
> > Budikka
>
>
> There is a vast difference between what you call "precursor
> molecules" and RNA. RNA is synthesized only in cells that
> are already alive.

False! Some forms of RNA and even DNA do not require any life to
generate them.

Budikka666

ungelesen,
18.05.2013, 20:18:4818.05.13
an
On May 18, 5:27 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:ccb1d9aa-cc4d-4f51...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> >http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/ribonucleotides/
>
> > Lying scum theists will lie that before this could happen, the
> > experiment had to be "designed", but the scientists DID NOTHING MORE
> > than to recreate conditions on Earth several billion years ago, and AS
> > ALL THE EVIDENCE SHOWS, when those conditions exist, life
> > spontaneously generates.
>
> > Now I don't want to hear one single word of whining from the
> > creationists UNLESS IT'S ACCOMPANIED BY THE SAME WEIGHT OF EVIDENCE
> > FOR A CREATOR OR FOR A CREATION which now exists for abiogensis and
> > for evolution.
>
> > Got that you worthless, cowardly, hypocritical, lying, spineless
> > creationist scum?
>
> > Budikka
>
> There is a vast difference between what you call "precursor
> molecules" and RNA. RNA is synthesized only in cells that
> are already alive.

LIE. I've posted half-a-dozen threads on abiogenesis very recently,
and you've carefully avoided every single one of them because you're
nothing but a lowlife coward who can neither refute the solid,
testable, repeatable spositive scientific research which shows beyoind
any *reasonable* doubt that no gods are required, nor can you provide
an iota of positive scientific evidence showing that any gods were
required.

Clearly your desperation and ignorance are your strongest traits.
Those and your willingness to indule yourself in any amount of bearing
of false witness, including dishonestly and fraudulently changing the
thread title to "Proving" when the truth is that you RUN like diarrhea
every time we ask you for positive scientific evidence which supports
your fnatasy claims!

Have you honestly fooled yourself that everyone who reads your
cowardly, vacuous lying messages actually beleives your vacuous
bullshit? If you have, you're more delusional than even I thought you
were. If you're so right, how come NO ONE on your side ever supports
you with evidence?

if you're so right, how come you abandon the threads so quickly and
avoid most of them like the plague you sad little coward?

If you're so right, how come your challenged me and when I took up
yoru challenge, YOU RAN?

If youre so right, how come no god ever shows up to help you and give
you a spine?

Budikka

Andrew

ungelesen,
18.05.2013, 20:28:0618.05.13
an
"SPQR" wrote in message news:SPQR-6AA520.1...@BIGNEWS.USENETMONSTER.COM...
> "Andrew" wrote:
>> "Budikka666" wrote:
>> > http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/ribonucleotides/
>> >
>> > Lying scum theists will lie that before this could happen, the
>> > experiment had to be "designed", but the scientists DID NOTHING MORE
>> > than to recreate conditions on Earth several billion years ago, and AS
>> > ALL THE EVIDENCE SHOWS, when those conditions exist, life
>> > spontaneously generates.
>> >
>> > Now I don't want to hear one single word of whining from the
>> > creationists UNLESS IT'S ACCOMPANIED BY THE SAME WEIGHT OF EVIDENCE
>> > FOR A CREATOR OR FOR A CREATION which now exists for abiogensis and
>> > for evolution.
>> >
>> > Got that you worthless, cowardly, hypocritical, lying, spineless
>> > creationist scum?
>> >
>> > Budikka
>>
>> There is a vast difference between what you call "precursor
>> molecules" and RNA. RNA is synthesized only in cells that
>> are already alive.
>
> False! Some forms of RNA and even DNA do not require any
> life to generate them.

This is true, because they may be generated
in the fantasies of atheists.


Budikka666

ungelesen,
18.05.2013, 21:05:4418.05.13
an
On May 18, 7:28 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> This is true, because they may be generated
> in the fantasies of atheists.

Abiogenesis and Evolution have nothing to do with atheism. But this is
the first example of your bearing false witness after false witness in
this message, every example of which is borne out of nothing more than
your vacuity and desperation. You have proved only one thing with your
behavior, and that is that you will bear any false witness, and you will
instigate any insult in order to hide the fact that your dogma is built
on sand.

The truth of this is in the fact that you RUN like diarrhea from every
challenge from us that you must provide positive scientific evidence in
support of your childish fantasies.

EVERY SINGLE TIME *YOU* DEMAND SUCH EVIDENCE, WE HAVE SUPPLIED IT.

Every single time *we* have demanded such evidence, YOU HAVE FLED.

Here's ample proof of that, and every instance is testimony to your
complete, utter and absolute LACK OF FAITH in this fictitious fantasy god
about which you spew so many lies:

Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank openly admits he has nothing to offer:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/
thread/71c25fd4761b099d?hl=en&scoring=d&
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/
f5d95451e8d8c4a1?hl=en&scoring=d&
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/
thread/4bb6ab05a33bab1a?hl=en&scoring=d&
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/
dae5640e44de4e8b?hl=en&scoring=d&
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/
thread/52822b1a5c47205a?hl=en&scoring=d&

Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank's most recent admission that his
omnipotent god is worthless in four threads simultaneously:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/
f5d95451e8d8c4a1?hl=en&scoring=d&
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/
e8b50cdfc13197e8?hl=en&scoring=d&
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/
thread/7b801d93211e51e7?hl=en&scoring=d&
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/
thread/4970c8ea65babc59?scoring=d&

Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank admits he has no faith in his own god:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/
thread/4970c8ea65babc59?scoring=d&

Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank admits that even he doesn't believe:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/
thread/4970c8ea65babc59?scoring=d&

More excuses from Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/
cbe97ddc53be5a00?scoring=d&
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/
thread/59b246e0c8e3e4f9?scoring=d&

Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank Ran from challenges in SIX THREADS
simultaneously:
http://tinyurl.com/8cpp6ru
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/
e8da88e0f6b5a76b?hl=en&scoring=d&
Given the chance to stand up for his god and formally debate the
authenticity of the "Shroud of Turin", Creationist Coward-For-Christ™
Andrew-a-Blank openly admitted that he could not support his LIES by
turning tail and running like the rank coward that he is, thereby proving
that he has ZERO FAITH in his worthless and fictitious god. If there
were an omnipotent creator god, and this loser actually *had* any faith,
he would have trusted that god to support him and he would have taken me
up on my debate offer.

http://tinyurl.com/9rm86aj
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/
thread/245ef4c4f9f8933b?scoring=d&
Given the chance to stand up for his god and formally debate the
existence of Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god, Creationist
Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank openly admitted that he could not
support his LIES by turning
tail and running like the rank coward that he is, thereby proving that he
has ZERO FAITH in his worthless and fictitious god. If there were an
omnipotent creator god, and this loser actually *had* any faith, he
would have trusted that god to support him and he would have taken me up
on my debate offer.

http://tinyurl.com/8o3wsmg
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/
ec1a84272b3493f1?scoring=d&
Given the chance to stand up for his god and formally debate the Noahic
flood, Creationist Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank openly admitted that
he could not support his LIES by turning tail and running like the rank
coward that he is, thereby proving that he has ZERO FAITH in his
worthless and fictitious god. If there were an omnipotent creator god,
and this loser actually *had* any faith, he would have trusted that god
to support him and he would have taken me up on my debate offer.

http://tinyurl.com/9hpgy2v
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/
db798efe8d1d0c97?scoring=d&
Given the chance to stand up for his god and present scientific evidence
in support of many wild claims he had made, Creationist Coward-For-
Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank openly admitted that he could not support his LIES
by turning tail and running like the rank coward that he is, thereby
proving that he has ZERO FAITH in his worthless and fictitious god. If
there were an omnipotent creator god, and this loser actually *had* any
faith, he would have trusted that god to support him and he would have
taken me up on my debate offer.

http://tinyurl.com/986crjk
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/
fb6771658c489b66?scoring=d&
Given the chance to stand up for his god and formally debate ENCODE's
latest data, Creationist Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank openly
admitted that he could not support his LIES by turning tail and running
like the rank coward that he is, thereby proving that he has ZERO FAITH
in his worthless and fictitious god. If there were an omnipotent creator
god, and this loser actually *had* any faith, he would have trusted that
god to support him and he would have taken me up on my debate offer.

http://tinyurl.com/ckeaadm
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/
c786b453f00abb9a?scoring=d&
Given the chance to stand up for his god and formally debate his 8
unsupported claims about information, Creationist Coward-For-Christ™
Andrew-a-Blank openly admitted that he could not support his LIES by
turning tail and running like the rank coward that he is, thereby proving
that he has ZERO FAITH in his worthless and fictitious god. If there
were an omnipotent creator god, and this loser actually *had* any faith,
he would have trusted that god to support him and he would have taken me
up on my debate offer.
So now you know the truth about Andrew-a-Blank - even *he* does not truly
believe in this god he espouses!
End of story.

Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank Ran from a simple question in *another*
SIX THREADS simultaneously:
http://tinyurl.com/7zghp7o
http://tinyurl.com/76a8chm
http://tinyurl.com/6q3q498
http://tinyurl.com/6n2swsr
http://tinyurl.com/7rvtlyu
http://tinyurl.com/7x4m3fv

Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank Ran from a debate on DNA in *yet
another* TEN THREADS simultaneously:
http://tinyurl.com/7zcuwsb
http://tinyurl.com/7t47anq
http://tinyurl.com/7wvegqc
http://tinyurl.com/6rg67wc
http://tinyurl.com/8yqo8fw
http://tinyurl.com/77bopo8
http://tinyurl.com/86zwhj6
http://tinyurl.com/7zlzxtd
http://tinyurl.com/7eknx73
http://tinyurl.com/6lgcwpq

Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank denies Christ thrice:
http://tinyurl.com/7x9c5wn
http://tinyurl.com/74h455e
http://tinyurl.com/7kl4hc7

Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank ran from debate:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/7dd8ed410470f4c2?hl=en
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/
e8da88e0f6b5a76b?hl=en&scoring=d&
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/
thread/245ef4c4f9f8933b?scoring=d&
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/
e9b89ac33e01ce5b?scoring=d&
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/
thread/836bea1f79468d9b?hl=en&scoring=d&
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/
thread/728ceae4eb1d55e3?scoring=d&
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/
thread/3a31410d460b908e?hl=en&scoring=d&

Budikka

Jeanne Douglas

ungelesen,
19.05.2013, 03:30:2419.05.13
an
In article <6I-dnRtTX7X1nQXM...@earthlink.com>,
"Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net> wrote:

> "Budikka666" wrote in message
> news:ccb1d9aa-cc4d-4f51...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> > http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/ribonucleotides/
> >
> > Lying scum theists will lie that before this could happen, the
> > experiment had to be "designed", but the scientists DID NOTHING MORE
> > than to recreate conditions on Earth several billion years ago, and AS
> > ALL THE EVIDENCE SHOWS, when those conditions exist, life
> > spontaneously generates.
> >
> > Now I don't want to hear one single word of whining from the
> > creationists UNLESS IT'S ACCOMPANIED BY THE SAME WEIGHT OF EVIDENCE
> > FOR A CREATOR OR FOR A CREATION which now exists for abiogensis and
> > for evolution.
> >
> > Got that you worthless, cowardly, hypocritical, lying, spineless
> > creationist scum?
> >
> > Budikka
>
>
> There is a vast difference between what you call "precursor
> molecules" and RNA. RNA is synthesized only in cells that
> are already alive.

What's your evidence of this?

--

JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

Jeanne Douglas

ungelesen,
19.05.2013, 03:33:1019.05.13
an
In article <WpmdnXU8WqgEgQXM...@earthlink.com>,
AND in the real world of scientists, both atheist and theist.

Devils Advocaat

ungelesen,
19.05.2013, 04:27:0219.05.13
an
On 19 May, 08:30, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> In article <6I-dnRtTX7X1nQXMnZ2dnUVZ_rSdn...@earthlink.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> > "Budikka666" wrote in message
> >news:ccb1d9aa-cc4d-4f51...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> > >http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/ribonucleotides/
>
> > > Lying scum theists will lie that before this could happen, the
> > > experiment had to be "designed", but the scientists DID NOTHING MORE
> > > than to recreate conditions on Earth several billion years ago, and AS
> > > ALL THE EVIDENCE SHOWS, when those conditions exist, life
> > > spontaneously generates.
>
> > > Now I don't want to hear one single word of whining from the
> > > creationists UNLESS IT'S ACCOMPANIED BY THE SAME WEIGHT OF EVIDENCE
> > > FOR A CREATOR OR FOR A CREATION which now exists for abiogensis and
> > > for evolution.
>
> > > Got that you worthless, cowardly, hypocritical, lying, spineless
> > > creationist scum?
>
> > > Budikka
>
> > There is a vast difference between what you call "precursor
> > molecules" and RNA. RNA is synthesized only in cells that
> > are already alive.
>
> What's your evidence of this?

I don't think he has any evidence.

I also think some scientists have synthesized RNA without the use of a
living cell.

Jeanne Douglas

ungelesen,
19.05.2013, 08:11:5819.05.13
an
In article
<0938e619-a85e-461e...@o10g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 19 May, 08:30, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <6I-dnRtTX7X1nQXMnZ2dnUVZ_rSdn...@earthlink.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> > > "Budikka666" wrote in message
> > >news:ccb1d9aa-cc4d-4f51...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> > > >http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/ribonucleotides/
> >
> > > > Lying scum theists will lie that before this could happen, the
> > > > experiment had to be "designed", but the scientists DID NOTHING MORE
> > > > than to recreate conditions on Earth several billion years ago, and AS
> > > > ALL THE EVIDENCE SHOWS, when those conditions exist, life
> > > > spontaneously generates.
> >
> > > > Now I don't want to hear one single word of whining from the
> > > > creationists UNLESS IT'S ACCOMPANIED BY THE SAME WEIGHT OF EVIDENCE
> > > > FOR A CREATOR OR FOR A CREATION which now exists for abiogensis and
> > > > for evolution.
> >
> > > > Got that you worthless, cowardly, hypocritical, lying, spineless
> > > > creationist scum?
> >
> > > > Budikka
> >
> > > There is a vast difference between what you call "precursor
> > > molecules" and RNA. RNA is synthesized only in cells that
> > > are already alive.
> >
> > What's your evidence of this?
>
> I don't think he has any evidence.

Of course he doesn't. Because he can't.


> I also think some scientists have synthesized RNA without the use of a
> living cell.

A fantasy!
Die Nachricht wurde gelöscht

Budikka666

ungelesen,
19.05.2013, 17:30:3119.05.13
an
On May 19, 4:08 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 00:30:24 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> >In article <6I-dnRtTX7X1nQXMnZ2dnUVZ_rSdn...@earthlink.com>,
> > "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
>
> >> "Budikka666" wrote in message
> >>news:ccb1d9aa-cc4d-4f51...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> >> >http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/ribonucleotides/
>
> >> > Lying scum theists will lie that before this could happen, the
> >> > experiment had to be "designed", but the scientists DID NOTHING MORE
> >> > than to recreate conditions on Earth several billion years ago, and AS
> >> > ALL THE EVIDENCE SHOWS, when those conditions exist, life
> >> > spontaneously generates.
>
> >> > Now I don't want to hear one single word of whining from the
> >> > creationists UNLESS IT'S ACCOMPANIED BY THE SAME WEIGHT OF EVIDENCE
> >> > FOR A CREATOR OR FOR A CREATION which now exists for abiogensis and
> >> > for evolution.
>
> >> > Got that you worthless, cowardly, hypocritical, lying, spineless
> >> > creationist scum?
>
> >> > Budikka
>
> >> There is a vast difference between what you call "precursor
> >> molecules" and RNA. RNA is synthesized only in cells that
> >> are already alive.
>
> >What's your evidence of this?
>
> LOL. Well, this HAS to be the final proof that your nothing but a
> scienfically illiterite. :)

You illiterately accuse someone who is asking for scientific evidence
of being scientifically illiterate? It's no surprise at all that
someone as profoundly ignorant as you is such a coward and a vacuous
hypocrite.

Budikka

Ralph

ungelesen,
19.05.2013, 17:35:4419.05.13
an
The fantasies of atheists are nothing when compared to those of a
fanatic fundamentalist Christian

Christopher A. Lee

ungelesen,
19.05.2013, 17:55:5419.05.13
an
Why does the pathological liar keep saying that objective scientific
understanding is "atheist fantasy" when it is accepted by
non-fundamentalist Christians everywhere, who in the USA outnumber
atheists by maybe ten to one?

Budikka666

ungelesen,
21.05.2013, 20:48:5921.05.13
an
Still waiting on your starting the debate BY POSITNG YOUR FIVE BEST
ITEMS OF EVIDENCE for this god of yours instead of running from the
challenge.

Budikka

Budikka666

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22.05.2013, 19:12:1222.05.13
an
Die Nachricht wurde gelöscht

Budikka666

ungelesen,
25.05.2013, 11:15:3025.05.13
an
On May 22, 7:47 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> What is WRONG with you, Budikka? If you want to debate, then I've
> already laid out the groundwork for it.

The groundwork was you posting your five best items of evidence from
which you've consistetnyl shied. Where are they?

Or do you raelly want this debate to be about your vacuity and
cowardice? If so, then you already lost.

Budikka

Budikka666

ungelesen,
29.05.2013, 17:19:3029.05.13
an
Hey Bro χρ! How pathetic is it when all you creationists so openly
admit that you have no faith in your god by running like diarrhea
every time you're challenged on your delusions!

Budikka

Budikka666

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01.06.2013, 10:21:5401.06.13
an
Hey Brother Chiro!  How pathetic is it when all you creationists so

Budikka666

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Budikka666

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