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HVAC

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Apr 19, 2013, 10:51:54 PM4/19/13
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So proud of the people of Watertown. I've never seen a crowd line the
streets and cheer the police. Great job wrapping up this part of this
battle with terrorists. 5 days? Pretty good.


--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

Ken

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Apr 19, 2013, 11:28:20 PM4/19/13
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With a bit of luck, he may still bleed to death

Brad Guth

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Apr 20, 2013, 12:39:07 AM4/20/13
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So that the whole truth and nothing but the truth can never be
realized, and that makes yourself and other brown-nosed minions of
oligarchs happy campers.

"Just because the government lies, doesn't mean that everyone else is
telling the truth.” / Bast

“whoever controls the past, controls the future” / George Orwell

Why don't you want others to ever know the whole truth?

Dreamer In Colore

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Apr 20, 2013, 1:22:51 AM4/20/13
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On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 22:51:54 -0400, HVAC <harlowc...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>So proud of the people of Watertown. I've never seen a crowd line the
>streets and cheer the police. Great job wrapping up this part of this
>battle with terrorists. 5 days? Pretty good.

It took 5 days and 9,000 law enforcement personnel to capture and/or
kill 2 amateurs. You can't reason with fanaticism of any stripe,
because they'll never understand what Americans take for granted. How
do you reason with someone that thinks it's ok to blow up children
with carpentry nails?

There's going to be serious backlash against Muslims. Again. And once
the groundswell of patriotism and nervousness fades, there will be
complacency again. The fanatics are patient, and there are a lot of
them, and they only have to be lucky once in a while to wreak havoc.

There was no God to protect the victims. No Allah to guide the hands
of the bombers. In fact, it fills me with despair to think that a
Christian God could just sit and watch an 8 year old get blown up, but
that's what happened. All the prayers uttered... and did a god
respond?

That alone ought to be enough to turn theists away from the
supernatural, but instead, there will be massive calls for renewed
faith because that's what's perceived as necessary to combat the foe.

All I could say to the parents of that little boy would be "I'm so
sorry for your loss." I couldn't begin to mouth the words "He's in a
better place" because he's not. I couldn't begin to mouth the words
"God works in mysterious ways" because I'd have to throw up.

I'm so sorry for your loss. The only brightness that I can cling to is
the unshakeable faith I have in the almost uniquely American talent
for adaptability in the face of adversity. I don't need evidence for
that.

Dreamer
AA 2306

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Apr 20, 2013, 1:27:39 AM4/20/13
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and these acts of god are what give you that

Mike Painter

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Apr 20, 2013, 2:36:18 AM4/20/13
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On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 01:22:51 -0400, Dreamer In Colore
<dreamer...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>I'm so sorry for your loss. The only brightness that I can cling to is
>the unshakeable faith I have in the almost uniquely American talent
>for adaptability in the face of adversity. I don't need evidence for
>that.

There is nothing uniquely American about that talent.
After any disaster of any magnitude in any country of the world you
will find people claiming to be unique because of their ability to
cope. It's not unique, it's what humans do.

HVAC

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Apr 20, 2013, 7:17:02 AM4/20/13
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On 4/19/2013 11:28 PM, Ken wrote:
> On Apr 19, 7:51 pm, HVAC <harlowcampb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> So proud of the people of Watertown. I've never seen a crowd line the
>> streets and cheer the police. Great job wrapping up this part of this
>> battle with terrorists. 5 days? Pretty good.
>>
>> --
>
> With a bit of luck, he may still bleed to death


Again, I've never seen anything like what I saw last night in Boston.

People came out and celebrated the killing of one and the capture of the
other. Boston Common filled with crowds singing and dancing. People
lined the streets of Watertown to cheer the police and FBI who were
driving away from the scene. Fantastic how people came together after
such a horrible and tragic event. It was a giant FUCK YOU to terrorists
all over the world.

Bast

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Apr 20, 2013, 10:07:59 AM4/20/13
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What seemed very odd, was how sure the FBI were certain of the
identities,....based on THIS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O5CJhPZNdk

Yet deliberately fuzzied up the faces, so no one would be able to positively
identify them.

Sort of makes you wonder if like after 9/11 they just went on a witch hunt,
threw out some names at random, to give the illusion they were doing
something.
And perhaps as with 9/11, a few weeks later the suspects they said were
killed will turn up on the news saying "It wasn't ME"


Ken

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Apr 20, 2013, 10:26:20 AM4/20/13
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Dream on and keep drinking the orange Kool-aid

linuxgal

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Apr 20, 2013, 10:40:40 AM4/20/13
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HVAC wrote:
> So proud of the people of Watertown. I've never seen a crowd line the
> streets and cheer the police. Great job wrapping up this part of this
> battle with terrorists. 5 days? Pretty good.

They picked the wrong city to mess with.

--
Halftime at Circvs Maximvs, and the Lions lead the Christians 326-0

HVAC

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Apr 20, 2013, 11:09:02 AM4/20/13
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On 4/20/2013 10:40 AM, linuxgal wrote:
> HVAC wrote:
>> So proud of the people of Watertown. I've never seen a crowd line the
>> streets and cheer the police. Great job wrapping up this part of this
>> battle with terrorists. 5 days? Pretty good.
>
> They picked the wrong city to mess with.

And the wrong country. We welcomed these foreigners into our country.
We gave them a chance to live the dream that is America. No one is
saying America is perfect, but there is a reason that more people
immigrate to this country than all other countries COMBINED.

Last night Boston showed why.

The kooks, crazies, and America haters are regrouping today.
They will despise the cheers for law enforcement. They want
fear, anger and hatred. What we saw last night was the opposite
of that.

linuxgal

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Apr 20, 2013, 11:22:56 AM4/20/13
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HVAC wrote:
> The kooks, crazies, and America haters are regrouping today.
> They will despise the cheers for law enforcement. They want
> fear, anger and hatred. What we saw last night was the opposite
> of that.

This is the part of the movie where the heroes turn a corner and start
coming out on top.

HVAC

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Apr 20, 2013, 11:36:22 AM4/20/13
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On 4/20/2013 11:22 AM, linuxgal wrote:
> HVAC wrote:
>> The kooks, crazies, and America haters are regrouping today.
>> They will despise the cheers for law enforcement. They want
>> fear, anger and hatred. What we saw last night was the opposite
>> of that.
>
> This is the part of the movie where the heroes turn a corner and start
> coming out on top.

Excellent observation.



PS- Have you noticed how quiet the America haters have been?

Double-A

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Apr 20, 2013, 1:36:32 PM4/20/13
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On Apr 20, 7:07 am, "Bast" <faken...@nomail.invalid> wrote:
If the FBI supplied them with the materials to make the bombs, of
course they would know their identities! All the foiled bombing
attempts recently have been FBI initiated projects. Makes you
wonder.

Double-A



Ken

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Apr 20, 2013, 2:05:02 PM4/20/13
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Y e a h......... r i g h t
Makes one wonder, all right
But about YOU!

Brad Guth

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Apr 20, 2013, 2:24:34 PM4/20/13
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On Apr 20, 10:36 am, Double-A <double...@hush.com> wrote:
Our crack ATF was also recently caught fast walking assault weapons
into Mexico.

Brad Guth

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Apr 20, 2013, 2:26:48 PM4/20/13
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On Apr 20, 7:07 am, "Bast" <faken...@nomail.invalid> wrote:
Nowadays with good plastic surgery and even genetic cloning brings in
all sorts of possibilities.

Jeanne Douglas

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Apr 20, 2013, 3:56:27 PM4/20/13
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In article <kktt9p$lh9$1...@dont-email.me>,
HVAC <harlowc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 4/19/2013 11:28 PM, Ken wrote:
> > On Apr 19, 7:51 pm, HVAC <harlowcampb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> So proud of the people of Watertown. I've never seen a crowd line the
> >> streets and cheer the police. Great job wrapping up this part of this
> >> battle with terrorists. 5 days? Pretty good.
> >>
> >> --
> >
> > With a bit of luck, he may still bleed to death
>
>
> Again, I've never seen anything like what I saw last night in Boston.
>
> People came out and celebrated the killing of one and the capture of the
> other. Boston Common filled with crowds singing and dancing. People
> lined the streets of Watertown to cheer the police and FBI who were
> driving away from the scene. Fantastic how people came together after
> such a horrible and tragic event. It was a giant FUCK YOU to terrorists
> all over the world.


A far better response than destroying our constitutional rights out of
fear as we've done the last 11-1/2 years.

--

JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

HVAC

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Apr 20, 2013, 5:19:10 PM4/20/13
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On 4/20/2013 3:56 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>
>> Again, I've never seen anything like what I saw last night in Boston.
>>
>> People came out and celebrated the killing of one and the capture of the
>> other. Boston Common filled with crowds singing and dancing. People
>> lined the streets of Watertown to cheer the police and FBI who were
>> driving away from the scene. Fantastic how people came together after
>> such a horrible and tragic event. It was a giant FUCK YOU to terrorists
>> all over the world.
>
>
> A far better response than destroying our constitutional rights out of
> fear as we've done the last 11-1/2 years.


I know it sucks for a liberal like you too, Jean.
This wasn't the horrible outcome that you were hoping for.

Maybe next time you will get your wish and America will be weakened
by a terror attack.

Tom McDonald

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Apr 20, 2013, 5:24:17 PM4/20/13
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On 4/20/2013 4:19 PM, HVAC wrote:
> On 4/20/2013 3:56 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>
>>> Again, I've never seen anything like what I saw last night in Boston.
>>>
>>> People came out and celebrated the killing of one and the capture of the
>>> other. Boston Common filled with crowds singing and dancing. People
>>> lined the streets of Watertown to cheer the police and FBI who were
>>> driving away from the scene. Fantastic how people came together after
>>> such a horrible and tragic event. It was a giant FUCK YOU to terrorists
>>> all over the world.
>>
>>
>> A far better response than destroying our constitutional rights out of
>> fear as we've done the last 11-1/2 years.
>
>
> I know it sucks for a liberal like you too, Jean.
> This wasn't the horrible outcome that you were hoping for.
>
> Maybe next time you will get your wish and America will be weakened
> by a terror attack.
>
>
So you're happy with the erosions of our civil liberties since 9/11? And
the increasing intrusion of the federal government into our lives
because of it? How odd. I'd have thought you'd not like that stuff.

Brad Guth

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Apr 20, 2013, 6:13:03 PM4/20/13
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Harlow likes anything that exploits others and makes certain that
others essentially pay for everything, so that he gets to live large
without having to earn a dime.


Jeanne Douglas

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Apr 20, 2013, 6:46:57 PM4/20/13
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In article <kkv0io$cdq$1...@dont-email.me>,
HVAC <harlowc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 4/20/2013 3:56 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> >
> >> Again, I've never seen anything like what I saw last night in Boston.
> >>
> >> People came out and celebrated the killing of one and the capture of the
> >> other. Boston Common filled with crowds singing and dancing. People
> >> lined the streets of Watertown to cheer the police and FBI who were
> >> driving away from the scene. Fantastic how people came together after
> >> such a horrible and tragic event. It was a giant FUCK YOU to terrorists
> >> all over the world.
> >
> >
> > A far better response than destroying our constitutional rights out of
> > fear as we've done the last 11-1/2 years.
>
>
> I know it sucks for a liberal like you too, Jean.
> This wasn't the horrible outcome that you were hoping for.
>
> Maybe next time you will get your wish and America will be weakened
> by a terror attack.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Jim Burns

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Apr 20, 2013, 7:16:37 PM4/20/13
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This seems to be right-wing SOP these days: take whatever your
greatest weakness is and accuse your opponent of that.

Think of AWOL Dubya swiftboating decorated Kerry.
Think of Romney/Ryan accusing Obama of wanting to defund Medicare.
Making the least bit of sense is not required. Just get
the brown material in the air, so that, when the other side
goes after you, it looks like, whatever, everyone makes these
accusations.

So, what is this big weakness? Try to tell me that
right-wingers all over America did NOT heave a big sigh
of relief, when they found out it was NOT one of theirs
-- this time.



Hägar

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Apr 21, 2013, 12:15:01 PM4/21/13
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"Brad Guth" wrote in message
news:9958de58-1dcc-4ada...@e5g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...

On Apr 19, 8:28 pm, Ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Apr 19, 7:51 pm, HVAC <harlowcampb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > So proud of the people of Watertown. I've never seen a crowd line the
> > streets and cheer the police. Great job wrapping up this part of this
> > battle with terrorists. 5 days? Pretty good.
>
> > --
> > "OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit
> > Girlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo
>
> With a bit of luck, he may still bleed to death

So that the whole truth and nothing but the truth can never be
realized, and that makes yourself and other brown-nosed minions of
oligarchs happy campers.


**************************************************
You moronic twit ... we now have a suspect who could shed some light on the
motivation for his deeds, but Liberal scum like you have decreed to outlaw
the methods of persuasion (i.e waterboarding) that would make him sing like
a canary. He knows it and if he just keeps his yap shut, he'll walk, thanks
to you Liberal, meddling cunts.

**************************************************

"Just because the government lies, doesn't mean that everyone else is
telling the truth.� / Bast

�whoever controls the past, controls the future� / George Orwell

HVAC

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Apr 21, 2013, 1:08:39 PM4/21/13
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On 4/20/2013 5:24 PM, Tom McDonald wrote:
>
>> I know it sucks for a liberal like you too, Jean.
>> This wasn't the horrible outcome that you were hoping for.
>>
>> Maybe next time you will get your wish and America will be weakened
>> by a terror attack.
>>
>>
> So you're happy with the erosions of our civil liberties since 9/11?


Is that what I said? Please point out your evidence for this.

HVAC

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Apr 21, 2013, 1:10:38 PM4/21/13
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On 4/20/2013 6:46 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>
>> I know it sucks for a liberal like you too, Jean.
>> This wasn't the horrible outcome that you were hoping for.
>>
>> Maybe next time you will get your wish and America will be weakened
>> by a terror attack.
>
> What the fuck are you talking about?

I am talking about you and your knee-jerk liberal, anti-American hate
speech.

Why? What were YOU talking about?

HVAC

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Apr 21, 2013, 1:12:53 PM4/21/13
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On 4/20/2013 7:16 PM, Jim Burns wrote:
>
> Try to tell me that
> right-wingers all over America did NOT heave a big sigh
> of relief, when they found out it was NOT one of theirs
> -- this time.


Right. This time (again) it was one of yours. Are you proud?

Brad Guth

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Apr 21, 2013, 1:16:32 PM4/21/13
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> telling the truth.” / Bast
>
> “whoever controls the past, controls the future” / George Orwell

Brad Guth

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Apr 21, 2013, 1:21:39 PM4/21/13
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On Apr 21, 9:15 am, Hägar <hs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> telling the truth.” / Bast
>
> “whoever controls the past, controls the future” / George Orwell
>
> Why don't you want others to ever know the whole truth?

So, why are you always so upset and in perpetual denial all the time?

Are you going to insist that once again American rednecks like
yourself had absolutely nothing to do with the provoking of others and
causing the subsequent Karma?

Are you going to suggest that our government and their faith-based
partners (aka oligarchs that you rednecks worship) never withholds
information nor having lied to us?

Bast

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Apr 21, 2013, 9:37:28 PM4/21/13
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Naaaa, just because the govt. got caught outright, and had to admit to "fast
and furious", doesn't mean it exists as long as they can later say its a
"conspiracy theory".
Just like they don't want gun confiscation, but are going to make sure no
one except for those in Government can have access to a gun,...so that's a
conspiracy theory too.

...Taxes too high ?....conspiracy theory.
...Economy down the tubes ?,...conspiracy theory.
That YOU believe in conspiracy theories ?,....conspiracy theory.




Bast

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Apr 21, 2013, 9:42:57 PM4/21/13
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Brad Guth wrote:
> On Apr 21, 9:15 am, H�gar <hs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "Brad Guth" wrote in message
>>
>> news:9958de58-1dcc-4ada...@e5g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> On Apr 19, 8:28 pm, Ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 19, 7:51 pm, HVAC <harlowcampb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> So proud of the people of Watertown. I've never seen a crowd line the
>>>> streets and cheer the police. Great job wrapping up this part of this
>>>> battle with terrorists. 5 days? Pretty good.
>>
>>>> --
>>>> "OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit
>>>> Girlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo
>>
>>> With a bit of luck, he may still bleed to death
>>
>> So that the whole truth and nothing but the truth can never be
>> realized, and that makes yourself and other brown-nosed minions of
>> oligarchs happy campers.
>>
>> **************************************************
>> You moronic twit ... we now have a suspect who could shed some light
>> on the motivation for his deeds, but Liberal scum like you have
>> decreed to outlaw the methods of persuasion (i.e waterboarding) that
>> would make him sing like a canary. He knows it and if he just keeps
>> his yap shut, he'll walk, thanks to you Liberal, meddling cunts.
>>



And there you go,....torture him for months, fill him full of drugs,.....and
we can all get a confession that's government approved.
Another fine job done to solve the case, that even the North Koreans will
envy.




Bast

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Apr 22, 2013, 2:18:24 AM4/22/13
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linuxgal wrote:
> HVAC wrote:
>> The kooks, crazies, and America haters are regrouping today.
>> They will despise the cheers for law enforcement. They want
>> fear, anger and hatred. What we saw last night was the opposite
>> of that.
>
> This is the part of the movie where the heroes turn a corner and start
> coming out on top.




Nope,...this is the part where all the characters go back to their post 9/11
refrain, and thinking that every rock has a bin laden boogie man under it.
They will decry that they want their safety at any cost, no matter that they
give up any and all of their rights and even their basic freedoms to get
that "safety".

And the bad guys just watch and laugh, while those they hate do their jobs
attacking and killing each other, for them.

Don't believe it ?
North Korea just has to SAY they have a bomb,....and everyone goes crazy.
...And every poor shmuck who wants to buy a pressure cooker at walmart will
now be swarmed by SWAT teams.


Jim Burns

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Apr 22, 2013, 6:42:50 AM4/22/13
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On 4/21/2013 1:12 PM, HVAC wrote:
> On 4/20/2013 7:16 PM, Jim Burns wrote:

<unsnip>

>> This seems to be right-wing SOP these days: take whatever your
> greatest weakness is and accuse your opponent of that.
>>
>> Think of AWOL Dubya swiftboating decorated Kerry.
>> Think of Romney/Ryan accusing Obama of wanting to defund Medicare.
>> Making the least bit of sense is not required. Just get
>> the brown material in the air, so that, when the other side
>> goes after you, it looks like, whatever, everyone makes these
>> accusations. So, what is this big weakness?
>>
>> So, what is this big weakness?

</unsnip>

>> Try to tell me that
>> right-wingers all over America did NOT heave a big sigh
>> of relief, when they found out it was NOT one of theirs
>> -- this time.
>
> Right. This time (again) it was one of yours. Are you proud?

Is there a second thing you do when you're not channeling
Karl Rove?




Hägar

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Apr 22, 2013, 9:43:30 AM4/22/13
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"Jim Burns" <burn...@osu.edu> wrote in message
news:5175142A...@osu.edu...
Typical Liberal response ... when stumped, or pushed into a corner,
just invent shit and repeat it ad nauseam ...
Liberalism is indeed a Mental Disorder.


Malcolm McMahon

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Apr 22, 2013, 9:56:17 AM4/22/13
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On Sunday, 21 April 2013 17:15:01 UTC+1, Hägar wrote:

> You moronic twit ... we now have a suspect who could shed some light on the
>
> motivation for his deeds,

Aren't the motives obvious? In any case, what do the motives really matter.

> but Liberal scum like you have decreed to outlaw
>
> the methods of persuasion (i.e waterboarding) that would make him sing like
>
> a canary.

And say, as usual, whatever he thought the interrogators wanted to hear, to condemn whoever they wanted to condemn, to give whatever motivation they were most comfortable with.

Cheaper to forge his signature under whatever confession you wanted.

> He knows it and if he just keeps his yap shut, he'll walk, thanks
>
> to you Liberal, meddling cunts.
>

If he was tortured then there would be no legitimate way to convict him. As is is conviction should be no problem.

In fact, I suspect if he gets his voice back, the problem will be to get him to shut up.


Brad Guth

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Apr 22, 2013, 11:44:36 AM4/22/13
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Harlow and his Zionist Nazi redneck friends have only one objective.

HVAC

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Apr 22, 2013, 1:44:35 PM4/22/13
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On 4/22/2013 11:44 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
>>>> Try to tell me that
>>>> right-wingers all over America did NOT heave a big sigh
>>>> of relief, when they found out it was NOT one of theirs
>>>> -- this time.
>>
>>> Right. This time (again) it was one of yours. Are you proud?
>>
>> Is there a second thing you do when you're not channeling
>> Karl Rove?
>
> Harlow and his Zionist Nazi redneck friends have only one objective.


Yes. To perpetuate the dream of freedom that is America.

thomas p.

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Apr 27, 2013, 11:02:05 AM4/27/13
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"Malcolm McMahon" <malcol...@googlemail.com> skrev i meddelelsen
news:f0f2a1f3-4f66-4d73...@googlegroups.com...
Just today I was thinking about how many people in the US seem to accept
torture today, people who consider themselves "true patriots". If one
accepts imprisonment without being charged with any crime or without trial
for an indefinite time and interrogation under torture, just what part of
the famous "American way of life" are they trying to preserve?


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