Texas judge rules for cheerleaders in Bible banner verse suit

[Leroy N. Soetoro]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/10/18/judge-expected-to-rule-in-texas-
cheerleader-bible-verse-banner-suit/?intcmp=trending

AUSTIN, Texas – A judge stopped an East Texas school district on Thursday
from barring cheerleaders from quoting Bible verses on banners at high
school football games, saying the policy appears to violate their free
speech rights.

District Judge Steve Thomas granted an injunction requested by the Kountze
High School cheerleaders allowing them to continue displaying religious-
themed banners pending the outcome of a lawsuit set to go to trial next
June 24, Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott said.

Thomas previously granted a temporary restraining order allowing the
practice to continue.

School officials barred the cheerleaders from displaying banners with
religious messages such as, "If God is for us, who can be against us,"
after the Freedom From Religion Foundation complained. The advocacy group
says the messages violate the First Amendment clause barring the
government -- or a publicly funded school district, in this case -- from
establishing or endorsing a religion.

Republican Gov. Rick Perry and Abbott spoke out in support of the
cheerleaders on Wednesday. Perry appointed Thomas to fill a vacancy on the
356th District Court, and he is running for election to continue in the
post as a Republican.

Abbott also filed court papers to intervene in the lawsuit and sent state
attorneys to support the cheerleaders' position that the district's ban
violated their free speech rights. The Texas Education Code also states
that schools must respect the rights of students to express their
religious beliefs.

"It is the individual speech of the cheerleaders and not in fact the
government speaking," David Starnes, the cheerleaders' attorney said,
according to KDFM television. "It is not just one girl or one person in
the group that comes up with the quote, but it's on a rotating basis that
each girl gets to pick the quote. That is their individual voices that are
being portrayed on the banner."

Thomas Brandt, the attorney representing the school district, said the
superintendent had acted to comply within existing legal rulings.
The Anti-Defamation League issued a statement in which it called the
judge's decision misguided.

"Public schools are for children of all faiths or no faith, and these
banners were clearly being displayed in the context of school-sponsored
activities," the group said. "Faith is a profoundly personal decision, so
students should not be subjected to an exclusionary school-sponsored
religious message on campus or be forced to choose between attending
quintessential school events -- football games -- or being subjected to an
unwanted religious message."

The Freedom From Religion Foundation, which is dedicated to the separation
of church and state, argued in the context of a football game it was
unclear who was responsible for the messages, the school or the
cheerleaders.

"The speech in question is government speech or, at a minimum, school-
sponsored speech," the group said in court papers. "If the majority of the
cheerleaders were atheists, would a court support their 'right' to hold up
a banner insulting Christianity or all believers? The district has every
right to simply prohibit all run-through and on-field banners."
Perry said Texans should encourage the cheerleaders.

"Anyone who is expressing their faith should be celebrated, from my
perspective, in this day and age of instant gratification, this me-first
culture that we see all too often," Perry said Wednesday. "We're a nation
built on the concept of free expression of ideas. We're also a culture
built on the concept that the original law is God's law, outlined in the
Ten Commandments."



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[Mike Painter]

On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:07:03 +0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
<leroys...@usurper.org> wrote:

>
>AUSTIN, Texas – A judge stopped an East Texas school district on Thursday
>from barring cheerleaders from quoting Bible verses on banners at high
>school football games, saying the policy appears to violate their free
>speech rights.

It will be stopped unless it can be shown that the cheerleaders were
not school representatives.

I'd be tempted to allow it if after each game where "If God is for
us, who can be against us," is shown and the team looses everyone
gets the message.
--
"When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion." ~ Robert Pirsig

[Dan]

Gott Mitt Uns.

Dan

[Mark Hill]

While the Obama White House *ignored the frantic emails* from our Libyan
Embassy WHILE THEY WERE UNDER ATTACK, things were getting bad, very,
very bad...


http://www.examiner.com/article/lebanese-report-us-ambassador-raped-before-murdered

The Lebanese news organization Tayyar.org is reporting that the murdered
American ambassador to Libya, J. Christopher Stevens, was raped prior to
his killing September 11, 2012.

Tayyar.com also reported via Google translation from the original
Arabic, Ambassador Stevens:

�
"...was killed and representation of his body in a manner similar to
what happened with Gaddafi, such as murder."

According to the BBC, when the former Libyan strongman Colonel Moammar
Gaddafi was initially captured:

�
"Still images from an analysis of amateur video footage taken in the
moments after Col Gaddafi's capture appear to show him being sodomised
with a pole or knife."

The Washington Times has posted a video clip (left) reportedly
originating from the Libyan Free Press confirming the sodomization of
Ambassador Stevens prior to his murder.

As translated by The Washington Times, the Libyan reporter stated:

�
"Libya - USA Ambassador in Bengazi sodomized and killed by his own
al-Qaeda puppets."


http://video.foxnews.com/v/1922193626001/was-there-a-live-feed-of-the-terrorist-attack-in-benghazi-/

Was there a live feed of the terrorist attack in Benghazi?

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/10/24/uk-usa-benghazi-emails-idUKBRE89N02E20121024

Emails: White House told of militant claim two hours after Libya attack

(Reuters) - Officials at the White House and State Department were
advised two hours after attackers assaulted the U.S. diplomatic mission
in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11 that an Islamic militant group had
claimed credit for the attack, official emails show.

The emails, obtained by Reuters from government sources not connected
with U.S. spy agencies or the State Department and who requested
anonymity, specifically mention that the Libyan group called Ansar
al-Sharia had asserted responsibility for the attacks.

The brief emails also show how U.S. diplomats described the attack, even
as it was still under way, to Washington.

U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans were
killed in the Benghazi assault, which President Barack Obama and other
U.S. officials ultimately acknowledged was a "terrorist" attack carried
out by militants with suspected links to al Qaeda affiliates or
sympathizers.

Administration spokesmen, including White House spokesman Jay Carney,
citing an unclassified assessment prepared by the CIA, maintained for
days that the attacks likely were a spontaneous protest against an
anti-Muslim film.

[Mitchell Holman]

"Leroy N. Soetoro" <leroys...@usurper.org> wrote in
news:XnsA0F666EAE7...@202.177.16.121:

> http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/10/18/judge-expected-to-rule-in-texas-
> cheerleader-bible-verse-banner-suit/?intcmp=trending
>
> AUSTIN, Texas � A judge stopped an East Texas school district on
> Thursday from barring cheerleaders from quoting Bible verses on
> banners at high school football games, saying the policy appears to
> violate their free speech rights.
>

Of course if they had been quoting Koran versus
on those same banners, well, that would be totally
different.

[John Locke]

.heh, heh...how about some Black Magic hexes directed
at the opposing team ! I'd pay money to see the reactions
from theists.

[Mark Hill]

On 10/24/2012 5:02 PM, L. Raymond wrote:

> Mark Hill wrote:
>
>> While the Obama White House *ignored the frantic emails* from our Libyan
>> Embassy WHILE THEY WERE UNDER ATTACK, things were getting bad, very,
>> very bad...
>

> Maybe he was too engrossed in My Pet Goat to respond.

Did Afghanistan not see shock and awe within mere months?

> Oh, wait, wrong attack.

True, this one we:

a.) took a Vegas trip to run away from

b.) denied

c.) falsely blamed a youtube video on

d.) misrepresented

e.) blamed Romney for

f.) ...more to come...

[Dakota]

If your reference to Mitt Romney was intentional, I appreciate your wit.

[Dakota]

On 10/24/2012 5:59 PM, L. Raymond wrote:
> Mitchell Holman wrote:

>> Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/10/18/judge-expected-to-rule-in-texas-
>>> cheerleader-bible-verse-banner-suit/?intcmp=trending
>>>

>>> AUSTIN, Texas 嚙碾 A judge stopped an East Texas school district on

>>> Thursday from barring cheerleaders from quoting Bible verses on
>>> banners at high school football games, saying the policy appears to
>>> violate their free speech rights.
>>>
>>
>> Of course if they had been quoting Koran versus
>> on those same banners, well, that would be totally
>> different.
>

> When this began making the local news a few weeks ago, that was my first
> thought. Let a Moslem on the cheer squad propose a verse and see what
> happens.
>
> I also wonder how the court would have reacted if the verses were of the
> "God will destroy the unbelievers" variety.
>
Or the more current, 'God intends that women be raped so they can get
pregnant.'

[Mitchell Holman]

Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote in news:k6a1i1$pk0$1...@dont-email.me:

Not many appreciate the Nazi link to Christianity.

[Sanders Kaufman]

"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:XnsA0F6A35752273...@216.196.121.131...

> Of course if they had been quoting Koran versus
> on those same banners, well, that would be totally
> different.

Wow - you stole someone else's identity to publish that sick comment.
That's pathetically Republican.

[Sanders Kaufman]

"L. Raymond" wrote in message
news:18fkshwbw0wri.1gfefo0gclxqu$.dlg@40tude.net...

> When this began making the local news a few weeks ago, that was my first
> thought. Let a Moslem on the cheer squad propose a verse and see what
> happens.

But no Muslim did that.
It was a Christian that did that.
Why do you attack Muslims for what Christians are doing?

[Dakota]

He wasn't attacking Muslims. He was drawing attention to the
double-standard. Christians don't have a problem with free speech if
they're doing the speaking. A Bible verse on the sash is fine with
them but they'd scream if the verses came from a different religion's
holy book.

[Gunner]

Actually..its typical of the Demonrats we have trolling the newsgroups

Your blaming bad behavior on Republicans is also typical for
Demonrats.


Gunner

>
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>
>
>
>

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you who have these grand fantasies of that pip-squeak Romney actually having
a chance at winning the election that will have to wake up to reality the
day after the election. I hear there is plenty of room in the rest of the
world where you can reside and establish new citizenship.
Kirby Grant,<KGr...@yahoo.com>

[Gunner]

On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:30:41 -0500, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
wrote:

Im curious as to how many Christians blow people up while pushing
Christianity?

[libitarded]

On 10/24/2012 11:58 PM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
> But no Muslim did that.

How's the brain swelling these days?

It's useful for folks to understand what happened to your brain and why
you are the way you are:


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[libitarded]

On 10/24/2012 11:56 PM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
> Wow - you stole someone else's identity to publish that sick comment.

[Sanders Kaufman]

"Dakota" wrote in message news:k6bbd5$cqv$1...@dont-email.me...

> He wasn't attacking Muslims. He was drawing attention to the
> double-standard.

Except that, in the real world, the Muslisms did NOT break the rules.
In the real world, it was the Christians who misbehaved.

That's why Christians, not Muslims, were silenced.

[Mitchell Holman]

Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:7rmi8815bpmtbvqre...@4ax.com:

> On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:30:41 -0500, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On 10/25/2012 12:58 AM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>>> "L. Raymond" wrote in message
>>> news:18fkshwbw0wri.1gfefo0gclxqu$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>
>>>> When this began making the local news a few weeks ago, that was my
>>>> first
>>>> thought. Let a Moslem on the cheer squad propose a verse and see
>>>> what happens.
>>>
>>> But no Muslim did that.
>>> It was a Christian that did that.
>>> Why do you attack Muslims for what Christians are doing?
>>>
>>>
>>He wasn't attacking Muslims. He was drawing attention to the
>>double-standard. Christians don't have a problem with free speech if
>>they're doing the speaking. A Bible verse on the sash is fine with
>>them but they'd scream if the verses came from a different religion's
>>holy book.
>
> Im curious as to how many Christians blow people up while pushing
> Christianity?
>

You just don't get it.

Christians pushing Christianity, Muslisms
pushing Islam - why can't you religious whackos
just shut the hell up and leave the rest of us
be?



"We should invade their countries, kill their
leaders and convert them to Christianity."
Right Wing Icon Ann Coulter, 9/13/2001

[MarkA]

On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:07:03 +0000, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:

> http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/10/18/judge-expected-to-rule-in-texas-
> cheerleader-bible-verse-banner-suit/?intcmp=trending
>
> AUSTIN, Texas – A judge stopped an East Texas school district on
> Thursday from barring cheerleaders from quoting Bible verses on banners at
> high school football games, saying the policy appears to violate their
> free speech rights.
>
> District Judge Steve Thomas granted an injunction requested by the Kountze
> High School cheerleaders allowing them to continue displaying religious-
> themed banners pending the outcome of a lawsuit set to go to trial next
> June 24, Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott said.
>
>

How nice. Another school district with so much money they can afford to
piss it away in a lawsuit they can't possibly win. It's too bad the FFRF
actually cares about people, or they could hit the district with an
astronomical fee for legal expenses when the school board loses.

--
MarkA
Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
About eight o'clock

[pyotr filipivich]

Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> on Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:30:41 -0500 typed
in misc.survivalism the following:

And this happened to you when, exactly?

Or are you just projecting your own guilt over your intolerance?


tschus
pyotr

--
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Most journalists these days couldn't investigate a missing chocolate cake
at a pre-school without a Democrat office holder telling them what to look for,
where, and why it is Geroge Bush's fault.

[Mitchell Holman]

pyotr filipivich <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote in
news:mm4j88p80gr9hmcav...@4ax.com:

> Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> on Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:30:41 -0500 typed
> in misc.survivalism the following:
>>On 10/25/2012 12:58 AM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>>> "L. Raymond" wrote in message
>>> news:18fkshwbw0wri.1gfefo0gclxqu$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>
>>>> When this began making the local news a few weeks ago, that was my
>>>> first
>>>> thought. Let a Moslem on the cheer squad propose a verse and see
>>>> what happens.
>>>
>>> But no Muslim did that.
>>> It was a Christian that did that.
>>> Why do you attack Muslims for what Christians are doing?
>>>
>>He wasn't attacking Muslims. He was drawing attention to the
>>double-standard. Christians don't have a problem with free speech if
>>they're doing the speaking. A Bible verse on the sash is fine with
>>them but they'd scream if the verses came from a different religion's
>>holy book.
>
> And this happened to you when, exactly?
>
> Or are you just projecting your own guilt over your intolerance?

What guilt?

[Dakota]

On 10/25/2012 12:36 PM, L. Raymond wrote:

> She, please.
>
Sorry. I wasn't able to deduce your gender from your posting name.>
>
> And you're right, of course. Some years back when the
> Austin city council was going to OK pre-meeting prayers from local
> religious types, the idea was dropped when some Wiccans signed up to do
> it. I have the horrible misfortune to be represented in the state
> senate by nasty, woman-hating, constitution violating scumbag who has
> droned on and on about religious freedom and the respect we own True
> Believers, who also walked out when an imam gave the daily invocation
> because he doesn't have to put up with that sort of crap:
>
> "Afterward, Patrick told reporters that he chose to
> step out during Kavakci's prayer because 'I didn't want
> my attendance on the floor to appear to be an endorsement.
> I think that it's important that we are tolerant of all
> faiths. That doesn't mean we have to endorse all faiths.'"
>
> He never explained what he thinks either "tolerate" or "endorse" mean.
>
> The "Houston Chronicle" puts a bible verse on the editorial page every
> day. I once wrote to ask why, if they feel the bible is a source of
> wisdom, they only use the lovey-dovey verses and nothing that involves
> smiting people. The next week there was an editorial about how the
> verses were originally picked by a sweet little old woman who had worked
> for the paper for some 40 years, and after her death they just recycled
> the ones she had liked. They also explained why they use only the bible
> and not any other stories, but I don't recall that part.
>
>
> Quote from:
> http://archive.redstate.com/blogs/bk/2007/apr/07/regarding_that_imams_prayer_before_the_tx_legislature
>

[Gunner]

On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:07:30 -0600, "L. Raymond" <badaddress@....com>
wrote:

>Mitchell Holman wrote:

>> Gunner wrote:
>
>>> Im curious as to how many Christians blow people up while pushing
>>> Christianity?
>
>> You just don't get it.
>

>He's also not familiar with history. Islam has been kicking around for
>only fourteen centuries. In its fourteenth century Christianity's
>terrorists were in full swing, burning, beheading, pressing, torturing
>and wiping out whole towns, the equivalent of blowing people up. It
>wasn't until the sixteenth century, when humanism began putting down
>roots and secularists began to demand Christians behave like civilized
>people, that they began to accept others had a right to live without
>being forced to submit to their delusions.

Yet when was the last time Christians burned/beheaded and so forth?

Some 300 or more years ago wasnt it?

Now when will Muslims stop?

[linuxgal]

Gunner wrote:

> Yet when was the last time Christians burned/beheaded and so forth?
>

Mountain Meadows Massacre, Utah, 19th Century.

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[Mitchell Holman]

Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:amsm88llhdbr2l2mc...@4ax.com:

> On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:07:30 -0600, "L. Raymond" <badaddress@....com>
> wrote:
>
>>Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> Gunner wrote:
>>
>>>> Im curious as to how many Christians blow people up while pushing
>>>> Christianity?
>>
>>> You just don't get it.
>>
>>He's also not familiar with history. Islam has been kicking around
>>for only fourteen centuries. In its fourteenth century Christianity's
>>terrorists were in full swing, burning, beheading, pressing, torturing
>>and wiping out whole towns, the equivalent of blowing people up. It
>>wasn't until the sixteenth century, when humanism began putting down
>>roots and secularists began to demand Christians behave like civilized
>>people, that they began to accept others had a right to live without
>>being forced to submit to their delusions.
>
> Yet when was the last time Christians burned/beheaded and so forth?
>

Perhaps you missed news from Northern Ireland
for the last fifty years? Catholics killing Protestants,
Protestants killing Catholics, all to prove what superior
Christians they are...........

[Mitchell Holman]

linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote in
news:W7ydnZ_lDM2rXBbN...@giganews.com:

> Gunner wrote:
>
>> Yet when was the last time Christians burned/beheaded and so forth?
>>
>
> Mountain Meadows Massacre, Utah, 19th Century.
>

And the Holocaust.






"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with
the will of the Almighty Creator: - by defending myself
against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord"
----Adolf Hiter

[linuxgal]

On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:07:30 -0600, "L. Raymond" <badaddress@....com> wrote:

> He's also not familiar with history. Islam has been kicking around
> for only fourteen centuries. In its fourteenth century Christianity's
> terrorists were in full swing, burning, beheading, pressing, torturing
> and wiping out whole towns, the equivalent of blowing people up.

That's such a relief. Every time someone makes up a new religion, we
only have to get through the first fourteen hundred years of their
terror before they settle down!

[linuxgal]

Mitchell Holman wrote:

> Perhaps you missed news from Northern Ireland
> for the last fifty years? Catholics killing Protestants,
> Protestants killing Catholics, all to prove what superior
> Christians they are...........

That's just pure tribalism, with religion as a convenient excuse.

[Gunner]

On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 04:10:51 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com>
wrote:

>Gunner wrote:
>
>> Yet when was the last time Christians burned/beheaded and so forth?
>>
>
>Mountain Meadows Massacre, Utah, 19th Century.

Now did they kill because of Christian belief? Or was it a cultural
thing?

Keep in mind that the Mormons had been discriminated against and
murdered for years and they had founded their "kingdom" in Utah
Territory

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre

And from the other view....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_Order_%28Mormonism%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latter_Day_Saint_martyrs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haun%27s_Mill_massacre

Hauns Mill set the stage for many of the reasons the Mormons became
strident and exceptionally protective of their peoples.

I argue that the Mormon/everone else wars and killings were not about
religion..but about cultural issues SPICED with religion

[Dan]

On 10/26/2012 10:37 PM, Gunner wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:07:30 -0600, "L. Raymond" <badaddress@....com>
> wrote:
>
>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> Gunner wrote:
>>
>>>> Im curious as to how many Christians blow people up while pushing
>>>> Christianity?
>>
>>> You just don't get it.
>>
>> He's also not familiar with history. Islam has been kicking around for
>> only fourteen centuries. In its fourteenth century Christianity's
>> terrorists were in full swing, burning, beheading, pressing, torturing
>> and wiping out whole towns, the equivalent of blowing people up. It
>> wasn't until the sixteenth century, when humanism began putting down
>> roots and secularists began to demand Christians behave like civilized
>> people, that they began to accept others had a right to live without
>> being forced to submit to their delusions.
>
> Yet when was the last time Christians burned/beheaded and so forth?
>
> Some 300 or more years ago wasnt it?

No.

Dan

[Dan]

Runner "missed" a lot of the last 50+ years.

I'm just saying...

Dna

[Dan]

On 10/27/2012 6:04 AM, linuxgal wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:07:30 -0600, "L. Raymond" <badaddress@....com>
> wrote:
>
>> He's also not familiar with history. Islam has been kicking around
>> for only fourteen centuries. In its fourteenth century Christianity's
>> terrorists were in full swing, burning, beheading, pressing, torturing
>> and wiping out whole towns, the equivalent of blowing people up.
>
> That's such a relief. Every time someone makes up a new religion, we
> only have to get through the first fourteen hundred years of their
> terror before they settle down!
>

At that time it was the Inquisition that targeted Jews and Muslims (and
christians insufficiently blooded in the religion).

Dan

[Dan]

On 10/27/2012 6:44 AM, linuxgal wrote:
> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>
>> Perhaps you missed news from Northern Ireland
>> for the last fifty years? Catholics killing Protestants,
>> Protestants killing Catholics, all to prove what superior
>> Christians they are...........
>
> That's just pure tribalism, with religion as a convenient excuse.
>

Isn't it all?

Dan

[Dan]

On 10/27/2012 9:54 AM, L. Raymond wrote:
> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> Gunner wrote:
>
>>> Yet when was the last time Christians burned/beheaded and so forth?
>>
>> Perhaps you missed news from Northern Ireland
>> for the last fifty years? Catholics killing Protestants,
>> Protestants killing Catholics, all to prove what superior
>> Christians they are...........
>

> He has also missed the decades long battle against women - against our
> health, against our education, against our livelihoods, against our very
> existence - which is simply the same thing in another degree, attacking
> people who don't conform to the extreme views of the hateful believers.
> He has missed the attacks on the basic humanity of homosexuals, again
> the same thing in a different degree.
>
> He is one of those idiots who sees the civilizing effect the
> Enlightenment has had on Christianity and wants to claim it as something
> good that has evolved from that religion, and not something we imposed
> on it.
>
He also wants to conveniently ignore the 1st Amendment, and most of the
Constitution.

Dan

[SkyEyes]

On Oct 27, 5:32 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote innews:W7ydnZ_lDM2rXBbN...@giganews.com:

>
> > Gunner wrote:
>
> >> Yet when was the last time Christians burned/beheaded and so forth?
>
> > Mountain Meadows Massacre, Utah, 19th Century.
>
>      And the Holocaust.

And the ethnic cleansing in what used to be Yugoslavia.

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
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[Alex W.]

On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:33:50 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes wrote:

> On Oct 27, 5:32 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>> linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote innews:W7ydnZ_lDM2rXBbN...@giganews.com:
>>
>>> Gunner wrote:
>>
>>>> Yet when was the last time Christians burned/beheaded and so forth?
>>
>>> Mountain Meadows Massacre, Utah, 19th Century.
>>
>>      And the Holocaust.
>
> And the ethnic cleansing in what used to be Yugoslavia.
>

And the civil war in Lebanon.

[Sanders Kaufman]

"Gunner" wrote in message
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> Yet when was the last time Christians burned/beheaded and so forth?

Do you not know about the thousands of Iraqi children maimed in the Bush
Crusades?
Or do you just not care about them?

[Sanders Kaufman]

"linuxgal" wrote in message
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> Gunner wrote:

>> Yet when was the last time Christians burned/beheaded and so forth?
>
> Mountain Meadows Massacre, Utah, 19th Century.

More recently, the Branch Davidians.

[Sanders Kaufman]

"Gunner" wrote in message
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> Now did they kill because of Christian belief? Or was it a cultural
> thing?

Their religion is the cornerstone of their culture.

[Sanders Kaufman]

"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
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> Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in

>
>> Yet when was the last time Christians burned/beheaded and so forth?
>
> Perhaps you missed news from Northern Ireland
>for the last fifty years? Catholics killing Protestants,
>Protestants killing Catholics, all to prove what superior
>Christians they are...........

He didn't miss it.
He's just a Republican - choosing to ignore reality in favor of his racist
insanity.

[Gunner]

On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:52:36 +0100, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

Nope. None of those were based on 'religion" but on cultures.

[Gunner]

On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:17:10 -0600, "L. Raymond" <badaddress@....com>
wrote:

>Dan wrote:

>> Gunner wrote:
>
>>> Yet when was the last time Christians burned/beheaded and so forth?
>>>
>>> Some 300 or more years ago wasnt it?
>>
>> No.
>

>300 years ago? Dr. George Tiller might be surprised to learn that, as
>would the victims of the Lord's Resistance Army.


Who?

Chuckle....if "I" have to ask who they are...its obviouis that its
rare and unusual.

Now about the thousands of deaths between the various sects of
ragheads that happens every week....?

[Dan]

On 10/28/2012 10:58 AM, Gunner wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:52:36 +0100, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:33:50 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes wrote:
>>
>>> On Oct 27, 5:32 am, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>>>> linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote innews:W7ydnZ_lDM2rXBbN...@giganews.com:
>>>>
>>>>> Gunner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Yet when was the last time Christians burned/beheaded and so forth?
>>>>
>>>>> Mountain Meadows Massacre, Utah, 19th Century.
>>>>
>>>> And the Holocaust.
>>>
>>> And the ethnic cleansing in what used to be Yugoslavia.
>>>
>>
>> And the civil war in Lebanon.
>
>
> Nope. None of those were based on 'religion" but on cultures.

Gotta admit, Runner is as dumb as most other Republicans...

Dan

[demotards]

On 10/28/2012 6:52 AM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
> He didn't miss it.

How's the brain swelling these days?

It's useful for folks to understand what happened to your brain and why
you are the way you are:


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Then your twitter account has some more evidence of your mental state:

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I am totally going to stop letting people like him, who do so little
for me, control how I think. So I'm going...

GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!!

FYI - I have a whole nother identity on the web as
"sur...@kaufman.net". It's linked to Twit like my real ID is

I spy with my little eye... A jealous girlfriend hiding in the
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[demotards]

On 10/28/2012 6:43 AM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
> Their religion is the cornerstone of their culture.

[demotards]

On 10/27/2012 5:15 AM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
> the Branch Davidians.

[demotards]

On 10/27/2012 5:12 AM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
> Or do you just not care about them?