Obama--war monger president

[Jason]

<http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-on-the-left/061713-660275-american-involvement-in-syria-wont-end-well.htm>

It's clear that Obama is getting America involved in the war in Syria.



If you don't believe me, watch any news show later today.


Obama plans to give weapons to the warriors in Syria. One of the soldiers
in the war in Syria was filmed killing a man and eating his heart. Obama
is going to give men like that American weapons. The president of Russia
mentioned that man that ate that heart to Obama but it did not change
Obama's mind related to providing weapons to crazy Muslim terrorists.

[Tom McDonald]

You, on the other hand, are just happy as anything to prove your
Christian love for your neighbor by allowing Assad to murder babies
without any attempt to stop him.

You are an inspiration to us all.

[Kit]

On Jun 18, 6:21 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> <http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-on-the-left/061713-660275-am...>

>
> It's clear that Obama is getting America involved in the war in Syria.
>
> If you don't believe me, watch any news show later today.
>
> Obama plans to give weapons to the warriors in Syria. One of the soldiers
> in the war in Syria was filmed killing a man and eating his heart. Obama
> is going to give men like that American weapons. The president of Russia
> mentioned that man that ate that heart to Obama but it did not change
> Obama's mind related to providing weapons to crazy Muslim terrorists.

It is eaay to impute bad motive to those we do not like.

[Mitchell Holman]

Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-18061...@67-150-127-102.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:

> <http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-on-the-left/061713-660275-ame

> rican-involvement-in-syria-wont-end-well.htm>
>
> It's clear that Obama is getting America involved in the war in Syria.
>
>

> Obama plans to give weapons to the warriors in Syria.

Reagan arms the Taliban, conservatives applaud.

Reagan arms the Iranian mullahs, conservatives applaud.

Reagan arms the Contras, conservatives applaud.

Reagan arms Saddam Hussien, conservatives applaud.

Obama arms Syrian rebels, conservatives outraged.



Does that about cover it?

[MarkA]

No, you left out, "GW invades Iraq without probable cause, gets US
involved in a war costing the lives of thousands of GIs, millions of
civilian casualties, and multi trillions of taxpayer dollars,
conservatives applaud."

--
MarkA
Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
About eight o'clock

[Ben Kaufman]

I think that's too convoluted for him.

[Mitchell Holman]

Ben Kaufman <spaXm-mXe-anXd-p...@pobox.com> wrote in
news:ab32s8l39flg5s4tf...@4ax.com:

Conservatives are always praising the Reagan
image and dismissing the Reagan record.

[Jason]

In article <ab32s8l39flg5s4tf...@4ax.com>, Ben Kaufman

The Syrian rebels are radical muslims. One of them was filmed murdering a
Syrian soldier and eating his heart.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-18061...@67-150-127-102.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

> <http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-on-the-left/061713-660275-american-i

> nvolvement-in-syria-wont-end-well.htm>
>
> It's clear that Obama is getting America involved in the war in Syria.
>
>
>
> If you don't believe me, watch any news show later today.
>
>
> Obama plans to give weapons to the warriors in Syria. One of the soldiers
> in the war in Syria was filmed killing a man and eating his heart. Obama
> is going to give men like that American weapons. The president of Russia
> mentioned that man that ate that heart to Obama but it did not change
> Obama's mind related to providing weapons to crazy Muslim terrorists.

Why haven't you been criticizing John McCain in his year-long demands
for military action?

--

JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

[Mitchell Holman]

Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-18061...@66.53.222.168:

Ditto for the radical muslims Reagan
armed, ditto for the radical muslims Bush
put into office in Iraq, ditto for the
democratically elected government of Egypt.

What do you propose we do about that?

[%]

because he had a vasectomy

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-E2017C...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

I criticize him as of now.

[Jason]

In article <XnsA1E3DAF49A25F...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell

Learn from the above mistakes and stay out of it. The exception is Iran
since they are making nukes that could be used to nuke Israel and to nuke
America.

We should arm any rebels in Iran.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <Jason-18061...@66.53.222.168>,

Good.

I don't want us involved in yet another Middle East morass.

So what is YOUR solution to stop any more deaths (it's over 90,000 now)?

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <Jason-18061...@66.53.222.168>,
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

Only some of them. Most of whom aren't even Syrians.

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-A8F27B...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> In article <Jason-18061...@66.53.222.168>,
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > In article <hlwdjsd2-E2017C...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
> > Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article
> > > <Jason-18061...@67-150-127-102.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> >
<http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-on-the-left/061713-660275-american-i
> > > > nvolvement-in-syria-wont-end-well.htm>
> > > >
> > > > It's clear that Obama is getting America involved in the war in Syria.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you don't believe me, watch any news show later today.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Obama plans to give weapons to the warriors in Syria. One of the
soldiers
> > > > in the war in Syria was filmed killing a man and eating his heart. Obama
> > > > is going to give men like that American weapons. The president of Russia
> > > > mentioned that man that ate that heart to Obama but it did not change
> > > > Obama's mind related to providing weapons to crazy Muslim terrorists.
> > >
> > > Why haven't you been criticizing John McCain in his year-long demands
> > > for military action?
> >
> > I criticize him as of now.
>
> Good.
>
> I don't want us involved in yet another Middle East morass.
>
> So what is YOUR solution to stop any more deaths (it's over 90,000 now)?

STAY OUT OF IT. I remember how we slowly got involved in the Vietnam War.
Do you remember that our soldiers were called "advisors" during the early
years of that war.

I'm concerned that this may become a deja vu situation. The supplying of
weapons may be the first step of a total involvement in the war.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-18061...@66-53-210-178.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

It would be very bad. It's already a proxy war, with Iran and Russia
heavily involved, Iran with Hezbollah and Russia with Assad. It's also
another conflict between Sunni and Shia; no good can come from that. We
can't do a no-fly zone because Russia has given Assad anti-aircraft
weapons.

The best chance we have to stop further massacres is to finally convince
Russia to abandon its support for Assad and force him to the table to
come to an agreement to stop the slaughter. Whether it's a coalition of
Assad and rebels sharing power, or Assad finally agreeing to step down,
the key is Russia.

So the talks Obama is trying to set up at the G8 he's at are absolutely
essential and necessary. If you truly want to see the US stay out of
this disaster militarily, you must support these talks and demand that
they happen and that they come to a humane solution.

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-D2C9B6...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

And some of them are members of Al-Qaeda. I doubt that Obama knows that
members of Al-Qaeda are involved in the war in Syria.

Read this:

<http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/17/world/meast/syria-civil-war>

[SkyEyes]

On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 7:44:54 PM UTC-7, Jason wrote:

> Learn from the above mistakes and stay out of it. The exception is Iran
>
> since they are making nukes that could be used to nuke Israel and to nuke
>
> America.
>
>
>
> We should arm any rebels in Iran.

And of course you're unaware that the Syrian regime is closely allied with Iran.

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-781AB4...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

I support the talks that you are referring to.

I'll tell you a secret. Obama has been secretly giving the Syrian rebels
military equipment since the Benghazi (Banghazi) Incident. There is a
theory that the supplying of arms to Syrian rebels was the cause of the
Benghazi incident. Read this:

<http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/arms-flow-syria-may-be-behind-beghazi-cover>

<http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article34974.htm>

[Jason]

In article <4f48777d-4a55-4332...@googlegroups.com>,

That does not shock me. Birds of a feather flock together.

I continue to be concerned about the nuke weapons program in Iran.
Hopefully, the new president may stop that program. Time will tell.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-18061...@66-53-210-178.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

The President has no control over the nuclear program. We've been
telling you that forever, so why do you still think he does?

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-18061...@66-53-210-178.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Why do you doubt that?

If you know about it, we can guarantee that Obama knew about it over a
year ago.

[Jeanne Douglas]

I know that. I've known that for months.

You really need to improve your choice of news sources. There's an awful
lot of news that you don't seem to have ever heard. That should tell you
something.

> There is a
> theory that the supplying of arms to Syrian rebels was the cause of the
> Benghazi incident.

That's insane. Because it's stupid and impossible. And stupid.

[Devils Advocaat]

If I recall correctly you criticised him for not taking action in the Middle East, now you're criticising him for taking action in the Middle East. Why are you trying to swing both ways?

[Malcolm McMahon]

On Tuesday, 18 June 2013 23:21:21 UTC+1, Jason wrote:
> <http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-on-the-left/061713-660275-american-involvement-in-syria-wont-end-well.htm>
>
>
>
> It's clear that Obama is getting America involved in the war in Syria.
>
>

It's clear that Obama, like all the Western Leaders, doesn't have a solution for Syria. He threatened action if chemical weapons were used, hoping they wouldn't be but trying to reduce the possibility. Assad called his bluff.

Like all the Western leaders he's trying to put pressure on Assad while actually _doing_ as little as possible, in the rather desperate hope of bringing him to the negotiating table.

Only the Russians have a solution: Assad wins. Assad stays. And to hell with the Syrians.

Five years from now Obama, along with the rest of the West is going to be castigated either for doing nothing while people were slaughtered, or for supporting a revolution which failed, or for supporting a revolution that produced an even worse government than Syria currently has. We're in a genuine no-win situation, and we're going to be blamed by the world and history whatever we do, or don't do.

We have the horrible examples of Bush's wars. We have the horrible example of the consequences of _not_ intervening in Rwanada and Bosnia. Take your pick.

I gather our foreign office is calling this the most intractable crisis in foreign affairs since WWII.

I suppose your solution would be "masterly inaction", i.e. the Russian solution, but I doubt a Republican president would resist the impulse to do something violent.

[Tom McDonald]

Or, as I pointed out, it looks like the threat to arm the Syrian rebels
has moved Russia to support negotiations and a coalition
government--things they were opposed to just a few days ago.

Is that a good thing or not?

[Tom McDonald]

You. Are. An. Idiot.

> Read this:
>
> <http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/17/world/meast/syria-civil-war>
>
>

[Malcolm McMahon]

Not particularly. They know that a "government of national unity" with Assad would still be an Assad government, and that the opposition won't play. What they are looking for is essentially an opposition surrender with some unconvincing face-saving for outside players.

Bottom line is: Assad won't go. Opposition won't negotiate towards any future where he stays.

Putin made no significant concessions at the G8.

[Tom McDonald]

On 6/19/2013 10:35 AM, Malcolm McMahon wrote:
> On Wednesday, 19 June 2013 14:32:41 UTC+1, Tom McDonald wrote:

<snip>

>> Or, as I pointed out, it looks like the threat to arm the Syrian
>> rebels has moved Russia to support negotiations and a coalition
>> government--things they were opposed to just a few days ago.
>>
>> Is that a good thing or not?
>
> Not particularly. They know that a "government of national unity"
> with Assad would still be an Assad government, and that the
> opposition won't play. What they are looking for is essentially an
> opposition surrender with some unconvincing face-saving for outside
> players.
>
> Bottom line is: Assad won't go. Opposition won't negotiate towards
> any future where he stays.
>
> Putin made no significant concessions at the G8.
>

I submit that, given the alternatives, even that outcome would be better
than a proxy war in Syria between the US and Russia; and better than a
flat-out Assad victory or a victory by rebels that might wind up giving
us yet another Islamist government in the region.

I see that as a good thing, in the context of only bad choices.

[Ben Kaufman]

There is no correlation between radical Muslims and cannibalism.

[Ben Kaufman]

Remember, "ditto" has a different meaning to Limbrainian "ditto heads"

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-39C2F5...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

Hopefully the new president will have some influence over the ruling clerics.

[Jason]

In article <fmt3s8t817aitl14i...@4ax.com>, Ben Kaufman

I believe he was a Sunni Muslim.

<http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324406/Syria-heart-eating-video-Our-slogan-eye-eye-tooth-tooth.html>

[Jason]

In article <7a8f5b76-ff2e-49cd...@googlegroups.com>,

Malcolm McMahon <malcol...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, 18 June 2013 23:21:21 UTC+1, Jason wrote:

> > <http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-on-the-left/061713-660275-ameri=
> can-involvement-in-syria-wont-end-well.htm>
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20

> > It's clear that Obama is getting America involved in the war in Syria.

> >=20
> >=20
>
> It's clear that Obama, like all the Western Leaders, doesn't have a solutio=
> n for Syria. He threatened action if chemical weapons were used, hoping the=

> y wouldn't be but trying to reduce the possibility. Assad called his bluff.
>

> Like all the Western leaders he's trying to put pressure on Assad while act=
> ually _doing_ as little as possible, in the rather desperate hope of bringi=

> ng him to the negotiating table.
>

> Only the Russians have a solution: Assad wins. Assad stays. And to hell wit=
> h the Syrians.
>
> Five years from now Obama, along with the rest of the West is going to be c=
> astigated either for doing nothing while people were slaughtered, or for su=
> pporting a revolution which failed, or for supporting a revolution that pro=
> duced an even worse government than Syria currently has. We're in a genuine=
> no-win situation, and we're going to be blamed by the world and history wh=

> atever we do, or don't do.
>

> We have the horrible examples of Bush's wars. We have the horrible example =
> of the consequences of _not_ intervening in Rwanada and Bosnia. Take your p=
> ick.
>
> I gather our foreign office is calling this the most intractable crisis in =
> foreign affairs since WWII.
>
> I suppose your solution would be "masterly inaction", i.e. the Russian solu=
> tion, but I doubt a Republican president would resist the impulse to do som=
> ething violent.

In this case, I continue to support inaction but I don't have a problem
with sanctions or peace talks with Russian leaders.

[Jason]

In article <36475b12-68cb-411b...@googlegroups.com>, Devils

In Iran, we should support the rebels and provide them with military
equipment. The reason: They may nuke Israel and eventually nuke America.

In Syria, it's a different situation. We should stay out of it. I support
sanctions and peace talks. We should not supply military equipment to
Syrian rebels. One of the rebel leaders was filmed eating the heart of a
Syrian soldier:

<http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324406/Syria-heart-eating-video-Our-slogan-eye-eye-tooth-tooth.html>

[Jason]

In article <%piwt.14403$6y4....@newsfe12.iad>, Tom McDonald

It's a good thing. Supplying arms to Syrian rebels is a bad thing.

It's not just a threat to arm the Syrian rebels. You stated above that you
knew Obama was supplying arms to Syrian rebels. The president of Russia
knows Obama is providing arms to Syrian rebels.

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-E15BFB...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

Why is Obama supplying arms to the rebels in Syria if he knows that information:

<http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324406/Syria-heart-eating-video-Our-slogan-eye-eye-tooth-tooth.html>

[Jason]

In article <Jriwt.14404$6y4....@newsfe12.iad>, Tom McDonald

read this:

<http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324406/Syria-heart-eating-video-Our-slogan-eye-eye-tooth-tooth.html>

[Ben Kaufman]

Again, you're still not seeming to grasp that just because one, or even a few,
person(s) of a group does something that it's not a characteristic of the group.
For example, a few U.S. soldiers have been caught on video doing horrific things
to dead enemy, and, even more offensive, to live dogs.

[SkyEyes]

The new president has *already* said that he will not stop the uranium
enrichment program. Never mind that, though; in Iran, the president
doesn't really have very much power. Most of the governing policies
are set by an Islamic council. I highly doubt they mean to stop the
uranium enrichment program, either.

If you're so fucking worried about Iran making and using nukes, why
aren't you worried that Iran will supply nukes to the Assad regime in
Syria? That government is no friendlier to the U.S. and Israel than
the Iranians are.

[SkyEyes]

On Jun 19, 1:39 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <hlwdjsd2-39C2F5.23414518062...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <Jason-1806132257550...@66-53-210-178.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

> >  Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > In article <4f48777d-4a55-4332...@googlegroups.com>,

> > > SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 7:44:54 PM UTC-7, Jason wrote:
>
> > > > > Learn from the above mistakes and stay out of it. The exception is Iran
>
> > > > > since they are making nukes that could be used to nuke Israel and
> to nuke
>
> > > > > America.
>
> > > > > We should arm any rebels in Iran.
>
> > > > And of course you're unaware that the Syrian regime is closely allied
> > > with Iran.
>
> > > > Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
> > > > BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
> > > > EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> > > > skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
> > > > skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
>
> > > That does not shock me. Birds of a feather flock together.
>
> > > I continue to be concerned about the nuke weapons program in Iran.
> > > Hopefully, the new president may stop that program. Time will tell.
>
> > The President has no control over the nuclear program. We've been
> > telling you that forever, so why do you still think he does?
>
> Hopefully the new president will have some influence over the ruling clerics.

It's the other way around, Jason.

[SkyEyes]

On Jun 18, 10:27 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <hlwdjsd2-D2C9B6.21102218062...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <Jason-1806131931140...@66.53.222.168>,
> >  Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > In article <ab32s8l39flg5s4tfmhlfc12u37171o...@4ax.com>, Ben Kaufman

> > > <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:46:52 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > >Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > >news:Jason-18061...@67-150-127-102.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > > >> <http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-on-the-left/061713-660275-ame
> > > > >> rican-involvement-in-syria-wont-end-well.htm>
>
> > > > >> It's clear that Obama is getting America involved in the war in Syria.
>
> > > > >> Obama plans to give weapons to the warriors in Syria.
>
> > > > >Reagan arms the Taliban, conservatives applaud.
>
> > > > >Reagan arms the Iranian mullahs, conservatives applaud.
>
> > > > >Reagan arms the Contras, conservatives applaud.
>
> > > > >Reagan arms Saddam Hussien, conservatives applaud.
>
> > > > >Obama arms Syrian rebels, conservatives outraged.
>
> > > > >Does that about cover it?
>
> > > > I think that's too convoluted for him.
>
> > > The Syrian rebels are radical muslims.
>
> > Only some of them. Most of whom aren't even Syrians.
>
> And some of them are members of Al-Qaeda. I doubt that Obama knows that
> members of Al-Qaeda are involved in the war in Syria.

So you think *you* have better intelligence than the President of the
United States? Why *wouldn't* he know that Al Qaeda is involved in
the Syrian conflict? I watched a _Frontline_ special about it last
week, and they mention that Al Qaeda fighters were in Syria, why would
you think the President wouldn't know this? You'll just say
*anything* to smear him, won't you?

[Tom McDonald]

No. Show me that Obama doesn't know that some of the Syrian rebels are
Al Qaeda.

[Jason]

In article
<f5de7cec-01cf-431f...@ow4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Jun 18, 10:27=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <hlwdjsd2-D2C9B6.21102218062...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> > > In article <Jason-1806131931140...@66.53.222.168>,

> > > =A0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > > In article <ab32s8l39flg5s4tfmhlfc12u37171o...@4ax.com>, Ben Kaufman
> > > > <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >

> > > > > On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:46:52 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.=

> net>
> > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > >Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > > >news:Jason-18061...@67-150-127-102.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
> >

> > > > > >> <http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-on-the-left/061713-660=
> 275-ame
> > > > > >> rican-involvement-in-syria-wont-end-well.htm>
> >
> > > > > >> It's clear that Obama is getting America involved in the war in =

> Syria.
> >
> > > > > >> Obama plans to give weapons to the warriors in Syria.
> >
> > > > > >Reagan arms the Taliban, conservatives applaud.
> >
> > > > > >Reagan arms the Iranian mullahs, conservatives applaud.
> >
> > > > > >Reagan arms the Contras, conservatives applaud.
> >
> > > > > >Reagan arms Saddam Hussien, conservatives applaud.
> >
> > > > > >Obama arms Syrian rebels, conservatives outraged.
> >
> > > > > >Does that about cover it?
> >
> > > > > I think that's too convoluted for him.
> >
> > > > The Syrian rebels are radical muslims.
> >
> > > Only some of them. Most of whom aren't even Syrians.
> >
> > And some of them are members of Al-Qaeda. I doubt that Obama knows that
> > members of Al-Qaeda are involved in the war in Syria.
>
> So you think *you* have better intelligence than the President of the
> United States? Why *wouldn't* he know that Al Qaeda is involved in
> the Syrian conflict? I watched a _Frontline_ special about it last
> week, and they mention that Al Qaeda fighters were in Syria, why would
> you think the President wouldn't know this? You'll just say
> *anything* to smear him, won't you?
>
> Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
> BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
> EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
> skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com

Has Obama mentioned in any speech that he plans to give weapons to members
of Al-Qaeda? I doubt it

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <Jason-19061...@66-53-211-39.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

> In article <36475b12-68cb-411b...@googlegroups.com>, Devils
> Advocaat <sba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If I recall correctly you criticised him for not taking action in the
> Middle East, now you're criticising him for taking action in the Middle
> East. Why are you trying to swing both ways?
>
> In Iran, we should support the rebels and provide them with military
> equipment.

What rebels?

[Jason]

In article <3Mpwt.22154$N36....@newsfe27.iad>, Tom McDonald

Has Obama ever discussed that some of the Syrian rebels are Al Qaeda? I
don't think so. Why does Obama want to give weapons to members of Al
Qaeda?

[Jason]

In article
<9adba93b-2b0c-4d84...@li6g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Jun 18, 10:57=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <4f48777d-4a55-4332...@googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 7:44:54 PM UTC-7, Jason wrote:
> >

> > > > Learn from the above mistakes and stay out of it. The exception is Ir=
> an
> >
> > > > since they are making nukes that could be used to nuke Israel and to =

That subject has not been mentioned in any news reports that I have read.

[Free Lunch]

On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:31:49 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
alt.atheism:

He does not.

The problem is that both sides have groups that we find repugnant and
that Israel's refusal to make peace with the Palestinians has made it
very hard for the US to find anyone who isn't an enemy of Israel in the
Arab world.

[Free Lunch]

On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:29:19 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
alt.atheism:

That is because he has no such plans.

[Tom McDonald]

That could just be because he doesn't intend to do that.

[Tom McDonald]

He doesn't. He intends to give arms to well-vetted, as moderate as
possible, militias. The opposition to Bashar Al Assad is diverse, and it
is possible to give arms to one group without giving them to all groups.

But then you haven't shown me that Obama doesn't know that Al Qaeda has
fighters in Syria. I don't think you can. Try to prove me wrong.

[Free Lunch]

On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:55:24 -0500, Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism:

Of course Obama knows, the reason the news media and fake media like Fox
know is because they have been told that by the Obama administration.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-19061...@66-53-215-219.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Probably because he has no such plans.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-19061...@66-53-215-219.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

So what?

Are you completely incapable of thinking for yourself? Or coming to a
logical conclusion based on current evidence?

Oh, wait.....

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-19061...@66-53-215-219.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

He doesn't, you microcephalic idiot.

Why do you think ALL Syrian rebels are al Qaeda?

[Jason]

In article <43e4s8t19q60keb5f...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch

<lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

<http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324406/Syria-heart-eating-video-Our-slogan-eye-eye-tooth-tooth.html>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> No. Show me that Obama doesn't know that some of the Syrian rebels are
> >>> Al Qaeda.
> >>
> >> Has Obama ever discussed that some of the Syrian rebels are Al Qaeda? I
> >> don't think so. Why does Obama want to give weapons to members of Al
> >> Qaeda?
> >>
> >>
> >He doesn't. He intends to give arms to well-vetted, as moderate as
> >possible, militias. The opposition to Bashar Al Assad is diverse, and it
> >is possible to give arms to one group without giving them to all groups.
> >
> >But then you haven't shown me that Obama doesn't know that Al Qaeda has
> >fighters in Syria. I don't think you can. Try to prove me wrong.
>
> Of course Obama knows, the reason the news media and fake media like Fox
> know is because they have been told that by the Obama administration.

If Obama knows, why does Obama want to give them weapons?

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-D8F520...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

When the plan go like this?

The Americans will check the ID cards prior to giving each of the Syrian
rebels a weapon. If an ID card states that the Syrian rebel is a member of
al Qaeda that means he won't be given a weapon. Beam me up Scotty.

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-4D2E34...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

Obama has been giving weapons to Syrian rebels for several months. It's
impossible to know if members of al Qaeda ended up with any of those
weapons. The members of Al-Qaeda don't have ID cards or name tags
indicating they are members of Al-Qaeda.

[Free Lunch]

On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:31:35 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
alt.atheism:

He does not want to give them weapons, but he doesn't want the moderate
opponents to be killed by Iranian allies, either.

[%]

yes he does

[Tom McDonald]

He doesn't, and he isn't.

[Tom McDonald]

No. The various rebel groups have their own structure and leadership. We
know who is Al Qaeda, and we know who is more moderate. We give the arms
to the most moderate rebels.

Do you get it now?

[Free Lunch]

On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:19:53 -0500, Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism:

Maybe Jason wants Hezbollah and Iran to win.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <Jason-19061...@66-53-219-9.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

What's your evidence that he's planning to any such thing?

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <Jason-19061...@66-53-219-9.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

So you think the US's security apparatus is completely incompetent, eh?

Why do you hate America so much?

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-39BDB8...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

We have discussed the fact that Obama has been giving military equipment
to Syrian rebels for the past several months. Some of them are members of
Al-Qaeda.

[Jason]

In article <FLswt.38418$BP1....@newsfe11.iad>, Tom McDonald

<http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/syria-civil-war-us-will-arm-moderate-rebels-says-barack-obama-confirming-use-of-chemical-weapons-by-president-bashar-alassads-regime-8658368.html>

<http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/13/obama-authorizes-sending-weapons-to-syrian-rebels-u-s-officials-say/>

[Jason]

In article <snl4s8pr7js75v052...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch

<http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/syria-civil-war-us-will-arm-moderate-rebels-says-barack-obama-confirming-use-of-chemical-weapons-by-president-bashar-alassads-regime-8658368.html>

<http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/13/obama-authorizes-sending-weapons-to-syrian-rebels-u-s-officials-say/>

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-440739...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

I don't hate the members of the military. I respect them.

I don't have any respect for Obama.

Let's say that weapons are ONLY given to Syrian rebels that are clearly
not members of Al-Qaeda. What would stop them from selling those weapons
to members of Al-Qaeda?

[Jason]

In article <0Nswt.38419$BP1....@newsfe11.iad>, Tom McDonald

Yes, but as you know, everyone likes to make profits and make money. What
would stop those moderate rebels from selling those American weapons to
members of Al Qaeda?

[Jason]

In article <b2n4s8psooa5p2m6k...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch

To be clear: I don't want Obama to get America involved in the war in Syria.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <Jason-19061...@66-53-208-24.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Their desire to stay alive by being able to defend themselves from
Assad????

Did you really ask that stupid a question?

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <Jason-19061...@66-53-208-24.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Who told you to ask such an incredibly stupid question? Which one of
your media "heroes" invented this idiocy?


If the rebels sell their weapoons, how can they defend themselves
against Assad, how can they stay alive?

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <Jason-19061...@66-53-208-24.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

I'm not sure why you posted that article, but thanks for posting
something that proves you wrong.

[SkyEyes]

On Jun 19, 3:33 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article

> <9adba93b-2b0c-4d84-8aad-9cd8fd3f4...@li6g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Jun 18, 10:57=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > In article <4f48777d-4a55-4332...@googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 7:44:54 PM UTC-7, Jason wrote:
>
> > > > > Learn from the above mistakes and stay out of it. The exception is Ir=
> > an
>
> > > > > since they are making nukes that could be used to nuke Israel and to =
> > nuke
>
> > > > > America.
>
> > > > > We should arm any rebels in Iran.
>
> > > > And of course you're unaware that the Syrian regime is closely allied
> > > with Iran.
>

> > > > Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
> > > > BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
> > > > EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> > > > skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
> > > > skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
>

> > > That does not shock me. Birds of a feather flock together.
>
> > > I continue to be concerned about the nuke weapons program in Iran.
> > > Hopefully, the new president may stop that program. Time will tell.
>
> > The new president has *already* said that he will not stop the uranium
> > enrichment program.  Never mind that, though; in Iran, the president
> > doesn't really have very much power.  Most of the governing policies
> > are set by an Islamic council.  I highly doubt they mean to stop the
> > uranium enrichment program, either.
>
> > If you're so fucking worried about Iran making and using nukes, why
> > aren't you worried that Iran will supply nukes to the Assad regime in
> > Syria?  That government is no friendlier to the U.S. and Israel than
> > the Iranians are.
>

> > Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
> > BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
> > EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> > skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
> > skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
>

> That subject has not been mentioned in any news reports that I have read.

Then you should get better news sources, don't ya think?

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <Jason-19061...@66-53-208-24.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

This is A Jason, Jason. It does not support you.


> <http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/13/obama-authorizes-sending-weapons-t
> o-syrian-rebels-u-s-officials-say/>

Wow. Even's Jason's right-wing assholes disagree with him. An A Jason
from the fringe.

Jason, I implore you.: If you are going to post an URL, please read the
article you're pointing to; you MUST confirm that it supports what
you're saying or you just making yourself look both dishonest and
stupid. If you're SO lazy, that you can't click on a leak and read an
article for a very few minutes, then don't waste your energy posting the
URL.

Unless, for some reason, you like to make yourself look foolish.

[SkyEyes]

On Jun 19, 3:29 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article

> <f5de7cec-01cf-431f-92ab-9fa9a23a0...@ow4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Jun 18, 10:27=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > In article <hlwdjsd2-D2C9B6.21102218062...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
>
> > > Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> > > > In article <Jason-1806131931140...@66.53.222.168>,
> > > > =A0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > > > In article <ab32s8l39flg5s4tfmhlfc12u37171o...@4ax.com>, Ben Kaufman

> > > > > <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:46:52 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.=

> > net>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > >Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > > > >news:Jason-18061...@67-150-127-102.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>

> > > > > > >> <http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-on-the-left/061713-660=
> > 275-ame
> > > > > > >> rican-involvement-in-syria-wont-end-well.htm>
>
> > > > > > >> It's clear that Obama is getting America involved in the war in =

> > Syria.
>
> > > > > > >> Obama plans to give weapons to the warriors in Syria.
>
> > > > > > >Reagan arms the Taliban, conservatives applaud.
>
> > > > > > >Reagan arms the Iranian mullahs, conservatives applaud.
>
> > > > > > >Reagan arms the Contras, conservatives applaud.
>
> > > > > > >Reagan arms Saddam Hussien, conservatives applaud.
>
> > > > > > >Obama arms Syrian rebels, conservatives outraged.
>
> > > > > > >Does that about cover it?
>
> > > > > > I think that's too convoluted for him.
>
> > > > > The Syrian rebels are radical muslims.
>
> > > > Only some of them. Most of whom aren't even Syrians.
>
> > > And some of them are members of Al-Qaeda. I doubt that Obama knows that
> > > members of Al-Qaeda are involved in the war in Syria.
>

> > So you think *you* have better intelligence than the President of the
> > United States?  Why *wouldn't* he know that Al Qaeda is involved in
> > the Syrian conflict?  I watched a _Frontline_ special about it last
> > week, and they mention that Al Qaeda fighters were in Syria, why would
> > you think the President wouldn't know this?  You'll just say
> > *anything* to smear him, won't you?
>

> > Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
> > BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
> > EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> > skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
> > skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
>

> Has Obama mentioned in any speech that he plans to give weapons to members
> of Al-Qaeda? I doubt it

That's because he DOESN'T. Not all the Syrian rebels are Al Qaeda.
It *is* possible to tell the difference.

Jesus H. Pineapple Christ, but you're an idiot.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <Jason-19061...@66-53-208-24.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Which ones? What are their names? When did they receive those weapons
and where?

Details, man. You can't make serious allegations like that without
providing evidence. It would be immoral.

[SkyEyes]

On Jun 19, 1:48 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <36475b12-68cb-411b...@googlegroups.com>, Devils
>
> Advocaat <sbal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > If I recall correctly you criticised him for not taking action in the
>
> Middle East, now you're criticising him for taking action in the Middle
> East. Why are you trying to swing both ways?
>
> In Iran, we should support the rebels and provide them with military
> equipment. The reason: They may nuke Israel and eventually nuke America.

What makes you think that rebels in Iran wouldn't be Al Qaeda? (Since
you think nobody can tell who is Al Qaeda and who isn't.)

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<7e47e90a-c1bd-4a0f...@ys5g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,

I'm quite sure they've learned a lot since they vetted Osama bin Laden
and gave him weapons to fight in Afghanistan. Nobody wants to do that
again.

> Jesus H. Pineapple Christ, but you're an idiot.

A question we haven't asked yet and really should:

Hey, Jason, why do you think Obama would want to arm al Qaeda?

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<42cb1e2e-db70-42f7...@wf10g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,

Any person with functional cognitive skills would realize that that's
exactly what he needs to do.

[Malcolm McMahon]

On Wednesday, 19 June 2013 23:31:49 UTC+1, Jason wrote:
> In article <3Mpwt.22154$N36....@newsfe27.iad>, Tom McDonald
>
> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 6/19/2013 3:54 PM, Jason wrote:
>
> > > In article <Jriwt.14404$6y4....@newsfe12.iad>, Tom McDonald

>
> > > <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > >> On 6/19/2013 12:27 AM, Jason wrote:
>

> > >>> In article <hlwdjsd2-D2C9B6...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
>
> > >>> Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >>>
>
> > >>>> In article <Jason-18061...@66.53.222.168>,

>
> > >>>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > >>>>
>
> > >>>>> In article <ab32s8l39flg5s4tf...@4ax.com>, Ben Kaufman
>

> > >>>>> <spaXm-mXe-anXd-p...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > >>>>>
>
> > >>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:46:52 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net>

>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
>
> > >>>>>>
>
> > >>>>>>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
>
> > >>>>>>> news:Jason-18061...@67-150-127-102.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > >>>>>>>
>
> > >>>>>>>>
>

> <http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-on-the-left/061713-660275-ame

>
> > >>>>>>>> rican-involvement-in-syria-wont-end-well.htm>
>
> > >>>>>>>>
>
> > >>>>>>>> It's clear that Obama is getting America involved in the war in
>

> Syria.
>
> > >>>>>>>>
>
> > >>>>>>>>
>
> > >>>>>>>> Obama plans to give weapons to the warriors in Syria.
>
> > >>>>>>>
>
> > >>>>>>>
>
> > >>>>>>> Reagan arms the Taliban, conservatives applaud.
>
> > >>>>>>>
>
> > >>>>>>> Reagan arms the Iranian mullahs, conservatives applaud.
>
> > >>>>>>>
>
> > >>>>>>> Reagan arms the Contras, conservatives applaud.
>
> > >>>>>>>
>
> > >>>>>>> Reagan arms Saddam Hussien, conservatives applaud.
>
> > >>>>>>>
>
> > >>>>>>> Obama arms Syrian rebels, conservatives outraged.
>
> > >>>>>>>
>
> > >>>>>>>
>
> > >>>>>>>
>
> > >>>>>>> Does that about cover it?
>
> > >>>>>>>
>
> > >>>>>> I think that's too convoluted for him.
>
> > >>>>>
>
> > >>>>> The Syrian rebels are radical muslims.
>
> > >>>>
>
> > >>>> Only some of them. Most of whom aren't even Syrians.
>
> > >>>
>
> > >>> And some of them are members of Al-Qaeda. I doubt that Obama knows that
>
> > >>> members of Al-Qaeda are involved in the war in Syria.
>
> > >>
>

> > >> You. Are. An. Idiot.
>
> > >>
>
> > >>> Read this:
>
> > >>>
>
> > >>> <http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/17/world/meast/syria-civil-war>
>
> > >>>
>
> > >>>
>
> > >
>
> > > read this:
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324406/Syria-heart-eating-video-Our-slogan-eye-eye-tooth-tooth.html>
>
> > >
>
> > >
>

> > No. Show me that Obama doesn't know that some of the Syrian rebels are
>
> > Al Qaeda.
>
>
>

> Has Obama ever discussed that some of the Syrian rebels are Al Qaeda? I
>

> don't think so. Why does Obama want to give weapons to members of Al
>
> Qaeda?

He doesn't, obviously. He's extremely reluctant to supply arms to the rebels at all. The problem is that he publicly committed to a change of position if chemical weapons were user. They were. What other change of position is open to him? The "something must be done" pressure is immense.

So now they are trying to work out some miraculous formula for arming only the "moderate" (i,e. pro-western) rebels. Small arms would be no more than a gesture, there seem to be plenty. What the rebels actually need is anti-aircraft and anti-armour weapons.

It's the same for Cameron, arming the rebels is the only threat that's remotely credible to apply _any_ pressure to Assad, but nobody actually wants to do it.

[Don Kresch]

On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:18:26 -0500, Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com>
scrawled in blood:

So why is he dragging us into another quagmire, just like Bush
did?

Oh, don't lie and say that's it's not a quagmire just because
it's a democrat; that's just pure partisan nonsense. Be consistent or
be a hypocrite. Make your choice.

Don
aa#51, Knight of BAAWA, Jedi Slackmaster
Praise "Bob" or burn in Slacklessness trying not to.

[Malcolm McMahon]

It's a quagmire, OK, and the reluctance of the administration to do anything about it is obvious. That's why Obama didn't accept the stories of chemical weapons for about a week after the rest of the world.

But the pressure on western governments along "something must be done." lines is massive, and increasing.

And even if we stay out of it, the number of nations getting their proxies into the game is increasing practically daily.

[Tom McDonald]

Just as I said. No weapons to Al Qaeda. Your references prove it.

[Tom McDonald]

How about the fact that the Assad government is trying to kill them, and
the weapons help them keep from dying?

[Tom McDonald]

They would die without them.

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-BCBFBC...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

It's not a problem for such people. They could just request another rifle
from the Americans that are passing out free rifles.

Question: Do they conduct back ground checks and a 10 day waiting period
before giving out free rifles to Syrian rebels? :->>

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87h6FSEU3ew>

[Jason]

In article <ArFwt.61580$5i1....@newsfe15.iad>, Tom McDonald

They would get back in line the following day and ask the American to give
him another M-16 rifle. If questioned, he would say: When I was sleeping
last night, someone stole my rifle so I need another one because I will
die without a new M-16 rifle. Watch this video:

[Jason]

In article <5fc6fafe-972f-4ac4...@googlegroups.com>,

Malcolm McMahon <malcol...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 19 June 2013 23:31:49 UTC+1, Jason wrote:
> > In article <3Mpwt.22154$N36....@newsfe27.iad>, Tom McDonald

> >=20
> > <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20

> > > On 6/19/2013 3:54 PM, Jason wrote:

> >=20

> > > > In article <Jriwt.14404$6y4....@newsfe12.iad>, Tom McDonald

> >=20
> > > > <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >=20
> > > >
> >=20

> > > >> On 6/19/2013 12:27 AM, Jason wrote:

> >=20
> > > >>> In article <hlwdjsd2-D2C9B6...@news.giganews.com>, Jean=
> ne
> >=20
> > > >>> Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> >=20
> > > >>>
> >=20
> > > >>>> In article <Jason-18061...@66.53.222.168>,
> >=20
> > > >>>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >=20
> > > >>>>
> >=20
> > > >>>>> In article <ab32s8l39flg5s4tf...@4ax.com>, Ben Kauf=
> man
> >=20
> > > >>>>> <spaXm-mXe-anXd-p...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >=20
> > > >>>>>
> >=20
> > > >>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:46:52 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailveriz=
> on.net>
> >=20
> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> >=20
> > > >>>>>>
> >=20
> > > >>>>>>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> >=20
> > > >>>>>>> news:Jason-18061...@67-150-127-102.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.co=
> m:
> >=20
> > > >>>>>>>
> >=20
> > > >>>>>>>>
> >=20
> > <http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-on-the-left/061713-660275-ame
> >=20
> > > >>>>>>>> rican-involvement-in-syria-wont-end-well.htm>
> >=20
> > > >>>>>>>>
> >=20
> > > >>>>>>>> It's clear that Obama is getting America involved in the war i=
> n
> >=20
> > Syria.
> >=20
> > > >>>>>>>>
> >=20
> > > >>>>>>>>
> >=20

> > > >>>>>>>> Obama plans to give weapons to the warriors in Syria.

> >=20
> > > >>>>>>>
> >=20
> > > >>>>>>>
> >=20

> > > >>>>>>> Reagan arms the Taliban, conservatives applaud.

> >=20
> > > >>>>>>>
> >=20

> > > >>>>>>> Reagan arms the Iranian mullahs, conservatives applaud.

> >=20
> > > >>>>>>>
> >=20

> > > >>>>>>> Reagan arms the Contras, conservatives applaud.

> >=20
> > > >>>>>>>
> >=20

> > > >>>>>>> Reagan arms Saddam Hussien, conservatives applaud.

> >=20
> > > >>>>>>>
> >=20

> > > >>>>>>> Obama arms Syrian rebels, conservatives outraged.

> >=20
> > > >>>>>>>
> >=20
> > > >>>>>>>
> >=20
> > > >>>>>>>
> >=20

> > > >>>>>>> Does that about cover it?

> >=20
> > > >>>>>>>
> >=20

> > > >>>>>> I think that's too convoluted for him.

> >=20
> > > >>>>>
> >=20

> > > >>>>> The Syrian rebels are radical muslims.

> >=20
> > > >>>>
> >=20

> > > >>>> Only some of them. Most of whom aren't even Syrians.

> >=20
> > > >>>
> >=20
> > > >>> And some of them are members of Al-Qaeda. I doubt that Obama knows =
> that
> >=20

> > > >>> members of Al-Qaeda are involved in the war in Syria.

> >=20
> > > >>
> >=20
> > > >> You. Are. An. Idiot.
> >=20
> > > >>
> >=20
> > > >>> Read this:
> >=20
> > > >>>
> >=20
> > > >>> <http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/17/world/meast/syria-civil-war>
> >=20
> > > >>>
> >=20
> > > >>>
> >=20
> > > >
> >=20
> > > > read this:
> >=20
> > > >
> >=20
> > > >
> >=20
> > <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324406/Syria-heart-eating-video=
> -Our-slogan-eye-eye-tooth-tooth.html>
> >=20
> > > >
> >=20
> > > >
> >=20
> > > No. Show me that Obama doesn't know that some of the Syrian rebels are=
> =20
> >=20
> > > Al Qaeda.
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20

> > Has Obama ever discussed that some of the Syrian rebels are Al Qaeda? I

> >=20

> > don't think so. Why does Obama want to give weapons to members of Al

> >=20
> > Qaeda?
>
> He doesn't, obviously. He's extremely reluctant to supply arms to the rebel=
> s at all. The problem is that he publicly committed to a change of position=
> if chemical weapons were user. They were. What other change of position is=
> open to him? The "something must be done" pressure is immense.=20
>
> So now they are trying to work out some miraculous formula for arming only =
> the "moderate" (i,e. pro-western) rebels. Small arms would be no more than =
> a gesture, there seem to be plenty. What the rebels actually need is anti-a=
> ircraft and anti-armour weapons.
>
> It's the same for Cameron, arming the rebels is the only threat that's remo=
> tely credible to apply _any_ pressure to Assad, but nobody actually wants t=
> o do it.

Good points--thanks

[Jason]

In article
<16e96a99-ea34-4361...@4g2000pbf.googlegroups.com>, SkyEyes
<skye...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Jun 19, 1:48=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <36475b12-68cb-411b...@googlegroups.com>, Devil=

> s
> >
> > Advocaat <sbal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > If I recall correctly you criticised him for not taking action in the
> >
> > Middle East, now you're criticising him for taking action in the Middle
> > East. Why are you trying to swing both ways?
> >
> > In Iran, we should support the rebels and provide them with military
> > equipment. The reason: They may nuke Israel and eventually nuke America.
>
> What makes you think that rebels in Iran wouldn't be Al Qaeda? (Since
> you think nobody can tell who is Al Qaeda and who isn't.)
>
> Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
> BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
> EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
> skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com

Give the rifles only to moderate Iranian rebels :->>

[Jason]

In article
<7e47e90a-c1bd-4a0f...@ys5g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Jun 19, 3:29=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article
> > <f5de7cec-01cf-431f-92ab-9fa9a23a0...@ow4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:

> > > On Jun 18, 10:27=3DA0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > In article <hlwdjsd2-D2C9B6.21102218062...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
> >
> > > > Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > In article <Jason-1806131931140...@66.53.222.168>,

> > > > > =3DA0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > > > > In article <ab32s8l39flg5s4tfmhlfc12u37171o...@4ax.com>, Ben Kauf=
> man
> > > > > > <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:46:52 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailveri=
> zon.=3D

> > > net>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > >Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in

> > > > > > > >news:Jason-18061...@67-150-127-102.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.c=
> om:
> >
> > > > > > > >> <http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-on-the-left/061713=
> -660=3D
> > > 275-ame
> > > > > > > >> rican-involvement-in-syria-wont-end-well.htm>
> >
> > > > > > > >> It's clear that Obama is getting America involved in the war=
> in =3D

> > > Syria.
> >
> > > > > > > >> Obama plans to give weapons to the warriors in Syria.
> >
> > > > > > > >Reagan arms the Taliban, conservatives applaud.
> >
> > > > > > > >Reagan arms the Iranian mullahs, conservatives applaud.
> >
> > > > > > > >Reagan arms the Contras, conservatives applaud.
> >
> > > > > > > >Reagan arms Saddam Hussien, conservatives applaud.
> >
> > > > > > > >Obama arms Syrian rebels, conservatives outraged.
> >
> > > > > > > >Does that about cover it?
> >
> > > > > > > I think that's too convoluted for him.
> >
> > > > > > The Syrian rebels are radical muslims.
> >
> > > > > Only some of them. Most of whom aren't even Syrians.
> >

> > > > And some of them are members of Al-Qaeda. I doubt that Obama knows th=

> at
> > > > members of Al-Qaeda are involved in the war in Syria.
> >
> > > So you think *you* have better intelligence than the President of the

> > > United States? =A0Why *wouldn't* he know that Al Qaeda is involved in
> > > the Syrian conflict? =A0I watched a _Frontline_ special about it last

> > > week, and they mention that Al Qaeda fighters were in Syria, why would

> > > you think the President wouldn't know this? =A0You'll just say

> > > *anything* to smear him, won't you?
> >
> > > Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
> > > BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
> > > EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> > > skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
> > > skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
> >

> > Has Obama mentioned in any speech that he plans to give weapons to member=

> s
> > of Al-Qaeda? I doubt it
>
> That's because he DOESN'T. Not all the Syrian rebels are Al Qaeda.
> It *is* possible to tell the difference.
>
> Jesus H. Pineapple Christ, but you're an idiot.
>
> Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
> BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
> EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
> skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com

Moderate Syrian Rebels may sell their new M-16 rifles to members of Al-Qaeda.

The moderate Syrian Rebels would get back in line the following day and
ask the American to give them more M-16 rifles. If questioned, they would
say: When we was sleeping last night, people stole our rifles so we need
more free rifles.

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-8F49C6...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

Because he is stupid.

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-0D27FC...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87h6FSEU3ew>

[Jason]

In article <HoFwt.47574$hh3....@newsfe23.iad>, Tom McDonald

[Jason]

In article <r0u5s8tbss602okne...@4ax.com>, Don Kresch

Thanks Don. I just saw some light at the end of a dark tunnel.

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-74F99B...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

Glenn Beck

[Jason]

In article <UpFwt.47580$hh3....@newsfe23.iad>, Tom McDonald

The Syrian Rebel would get back in line the following day and ask the

American to give him another M-16 rifle. If questioned, he would say: When
I was sleeping last night, someone stole my rifle so I need another one
because I will die without a new M-16 rifle. Watch this video:

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <Jason-20061...@66-53-210-94.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Figures.

You DO know, don't you, that Glenn Beck is completely insane?

Now tell us that you've seen how stupid Beck's point was and that the
non-al Qaeda rebels are not going to commit suicide by selling their
weapons.