Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
bombing clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this
and worse in Biblical times.
> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
> doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
> bombing clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this
> and worse in Biblical times.
> It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
> Budikka
Why have you not -also- noted what they
did to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?
Why is that?
Explain.
He did all things well.
He made the deaf to hear and the blind to see.
But they (the religionists) treated Him contemptuously,
..and murdered Him.
Nevertheless He is coming back in power and great glory
to take His people to the places that He has gone to prepare
for them.
"I am going to prepare a place for you. When everything
is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always
be with me where I am." John 14:2-3
In article <2018b223-b3a2-426d-9aed-bd1841f0b...@m4g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
> 14 year old Malala Yousafzai was shot in the head by the Taliban for
> wanting nothing more than an education:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousufzai
> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
> doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
> bombing clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this
> and worse in Biblical times.
> It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
And they've said that if Malala survives they will keep trying until they do kill her.
But this seems to have triggered something--girls all over Pakistan are wearing caps and shirts saying "I Am Malala".
-- JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
"Pakistani clerics condemn Taliban’s attack on Malala"
"Clerics in Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad, Rawalpindi, Peshawar, Quetta and other cities condemned the attack and termed it as un-Islamic and said Islam doesn’t allow terrorism and killing of children and women."
"As Malala Yousafzai fights for her life after having a bullet removed from her neck at a hospital in Peshawar, an outpouring of shock, grief and anger has swept across Pakistan and the world."
except for the hate filled atheist bigots! 8^o
While Islamic Clerics join other Pakistani Muslims, and those around the world to condemn the Taliban, these atheist propagandists
use this child to attack them.
What a disgrace, they are no better than the Taliban.
>> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
>> doing this
The Muslims you hate-filled bigots brand as ALL "CRAZY" and the Christians were all condemning the Taliban.. while you scum are trying to use that poor child's shooting to whip up hysterical hatred of them ALL for doing so!!!!
WHY ARE YOU DEFLECTING CRITICISM OF THE TALIBAN THUGS ONTO
THOSE WHO CONDEMN THEM!?!!!!!!
You are no better than the Taliban you protect - THEY SHOOT THE INNOCENT.. YOU BLAME THE INNOCENT,
in both cases your HATE consumes your reason.
>> and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
>> bombing clinics and shooting doctors.
Ok if you hold ALL religious collectively responsible for
the actions of ANY one claiming to be one of them, then
they will hold all atheists responsible for the 80,000,000
people tortured, terrorised and killed in the atheist regimes
of the 20th century, far more than the death toll of any religion
in history, and far more recent than the events you dredge up from CENTURIES AGO!
Your malign hatred matches that of the atheist tyrannies AND
the Taliban.
>> The Judaists were doing this
>> and worse in Biblical times.
Wow, you vile anti-semite, you even try to use this Taliban
atrocity to attack the Jews!! 8^o
>> It's not *the* religion,
That's right, harming innocents is CONDEMNED by the religion.
And carried out by the Taliban, and YOU!
8^o
> And they've said that if Malala survives they will keep trying until
> they do kill her.
"They" being the Taliban, condemned by Muslims and Christians alike..
and yet you atheists use this crime to condemn the VAST MAJORITY of innocent Muslims and Christians and Jews!?!!!!
And you use the same tactics the Nazis used, they would focus on an
individual criminal who was Jewish and BLAME ALL JEWS... inciting
such hatred of the entire group that they could persecute and kill 6,000,000 of them.
And you are using the propaganda techniques of Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot, the leaders of the atheist tyrannies, to stir up hatred of all
religious so they could destroy their churches, temples and synagogues and slaughter millions of them.
By YOUR sick doctrine of Collective Responsibility, blaming ALL religious for the actions of a tiny, unrepresentative minority CLAIMING
to be religious, but acting CONTRARY to the teachings of every religion, you atheists are guilty of the murder of 80,000,000 victims of
the atheist states in the 20th century, and there is nothing in the teachings of atheism which prohibits such terror, torture and mass murder.
So, not only you, but ATHEISM ITSELF, stands condemned by YOUR standard.
> But this seems to have triggered something--
Among decent folk, Muslim, Christian and Jews.
Muslim women and
> girls all over Pakistan are
> wearing caps and shirts saying "I Am Malala".
And yet you malign atheist trolls condemn ALL religious, including them!
pfffttt!
Your irrational, hate-filled ranting condemns YOU!
--
The foremost atheist Philosopher of our age recently
launched his new book "Religion for Atheists" and
no atheists are interested in talking about it:
>> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
>> doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are, bombing
>> clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this and worse in
>> Biblical times.
>> It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
>> Budikka
> Why have you not -also- noted what they did to our Lord and Savior Jesus
> Christ?
> Why is that?
Because he's just a character in a fictional story.
> Explain.
> He did all things well.
According to the story. Unfortunately for you, there's no evidence that he
ever existed to do anything.
> He made the deaf to hear and the blind to see.
And King Kong scaled the Empire State Building.
> But they (the religionists) treated Him contemptuously, ..and murdered
> Him.
Yep. They murdered King Kong.
> Nevertheless He is coming back in power and great glory to take His
> people to the places that He has gone to prepare for them.
Evidence?
> "I am going to prepare a place for you. When everything
> is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always be with me
> where I am." John 14:2-3
Your quotes from a fictional story book have exactly the same amount of
meaning to us as do quotes from Harry Potter stories have to you.
Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
> > Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
> > doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
> > bombing clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this
> > and worse in Biblical times.
> > It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
> > Budikka
> Why have you not -also- noted what they
> did to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?
> Why is that?
> Explain.
> He did all things well.
> He made the deaf to hear and the blind to see.
He is at least said to have done so/
> But they (the religionists) treated Him contemptuously,
> ..and murdered Him.
It is certainly alleged that groups of jews treated him contemptuously and that the Romans executed him.
But there is no objective physical evidence that either actually occurred.
> Nevertheless He is coming back in power and great glory
> to take His people to the places that He has gone to prepare
> for them.
> "I am going to prepare a place for you. When everything
> is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always
> be with me where I am." John 14:2-3
And each of about a thousand generations since "His" alleged reincarnation has believed "He" would come and get THEM, but "He" has not come for any of them.
-- "Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson
>> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
>> doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
>> bombing clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this
>> and worse in Biblical times.
Not so long ago as that. Christians in Africa were killing child 'witches' in 2008 and are probably doing so today.
> And they've said that if Malala survives they will keep trying until
> they do kill her.
> But this seems to have triggered something--girls all over Pakistan are
> wearing caps and shirts saying "I Am Malala".
I applaud those brave girls while fearing for their lives. It's tragic that it may take the murder of a child to turn the Pakistani people against the Taliban and those like them.
> >> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
> >> doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
> >> bombing clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this
> >> and worse in Biblical times.
> Not so long ago as that. Christians in Africa were killing child
> 'witches' in 2008 and are probably doing so today.
> >> It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
> > And they've said that if Malala survives they will keep trying until
> > they do kill her.
> > But this seems to have triggered something--girls all over Pakistan are
> > wearing caps and shirts saying "I Am Malala".
> I applaud those brave girls while fearing for their lives. It's tragic
> that it may take the murder of a child to turn the Pakistani people
> against the Taliban and those like them.
She's hanging in there, it seems, and now that they've airlifted her
to the U.K., you can be assured that she's getting first-rate care.
I'm going to think positive and assume that she's going to make a full
recover.
I want one each of those caps and t-shirts. I don't suppose you have
a link to where I can order them?
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
> > >> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
> > >> doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
> > >> bombing clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this
> > >> and worse in Biblical times.
> > Not so long ago as that. Christians in Africa were killing child
> > 'witches' in 2008 and are probably doing so today.
> > >> It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
> > > And they've said that if Malala survives they will keep trying until
> > > they do kill her.
> > > But this seems to have triggered something--girls all over Pakistan are
> > > wearing caps and shirts saying "I Am Malala".
> > I applaud those brave girls while fearing for their lives. It's tragic
> > that it may take the murder of a child to turn the Pakistani people
> > against the Taliban and those like them.
> She's hanging in there, it seems, and now that they've airlifted her
> to the U.K., you can be assured that she's getting first-rate care.
> I'm going to think positive and assume that she's going to make a full
> recover.
Oh, I have no doubt. That girl's a fighter.
> I want one each of those caps and t-shirts. I don't suppose you have
> a link to where I can order them?
I'm not finding anything yet. I guess the entrepreneurs haven't kicked in yet. I sure hope anybody who prints this stuff up donates a substantial amount of the proceeds to either Malala's care or to support for the kids who are protesting.
-- JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
> "Pakistani clerics condemn Taliban’s attack on Malala"
> "Clerics in Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad, Rawalpindi, Peshawar, Quetta and > other cities condemned the attack and termed it as un-Islamic and said > Islam doesn’t allow terrorism and killing of children and women."
> "Muslim women react to Pakistan girl's shooting"
> "As Malala Yousafzai fights for her life after having a bullet removed > from her neck at a hospital in Peshawar, an outpouring of shock, grief and > anger has swept across Pakistan and the world."
> except for the hate filled atheist bigots! 8^o
> While Islamic Clerics join other Pakistani Muslims, and those around the > world to condemn the Taliban, these atheist propagandists
> use this child to attack them.
> What a disgrace, they are no better than the Taliban.
>>> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
>>> doing this
> The Muslims you hate-filled bigots brand as ALL "CRAZY" and the Christians > were all condemning the Taliban.. while you scum are trying to use that > poor child's shooting to whip up hysterical hatred of them ALL for doing > so!!!!
> WHY ARE YOU DEFLECTING CRITICISM OF THE TALIBAN THUGS ONTO
> THOSE WHO CONDEMN THEM!?!!!!!!
> You are no better than the Taliban you protect - THEY SHOOT THE INNOCENT.. > YOU BLAME THE INNOCENT,
> in both cases your HATE consumes your reason.
>>> and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
>>> bombing clinics and shooting doctors.
> Ok if you hold ALL religious collectively responsible for
> the actions of ANY one claiming to be one of them, then
> they will hold all atheists responsible for the 80,000,000
> people tortured, terrorised and killed in the atheist regimes
> of the 20th century, far more than the death toll of any religion
> in history, and far more recent than the events you dredge up from > CENTURIES AGO!
> Your malign hatred matches that of the atheist tyrannies AND
> the Taliban.
>>> The Judaists were doing this
>>> and worse in Biblical times.
> Wow, you vile anti-semite, you even try to use this Taliban
> atrocity to attack the Jews!! 8^o
>>> It's not *the* religion,
> That's right, harming innocents is CONDEMNED by the religion.
> And carried out by the Taliban, and YOU!
> 8^o
>> And they've said that if Malala survives they will keep trying until
>> they do kill her.
> "They" being the Taliban, condemned by Muslims and Christians alike..
> and yet you atheists use this crime to condemn the VAST MAJORITY of > innocent Muslims and Christians and Jews!?!!!!
> And you use the same tactics the Nazis used, they would focus on an
> individual criminal who was Jewish and BLAME ALL JEWS... inciting
> such hatred of the entire group that they could persecute and kill > 6,000,000 of them.
> And you are using the propaganda techniques of Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Pol > Pot, the leaders of the atheist tyrannies, to stir up hatred of all
> religious so they could destroy their churches, temples and synagogues and > slaughter millions of them.
> By YOUR sick doctrine of Collective Responsibility, blaming ALL religious > for the actions of a tiny, unrepresentative minority CLAIMING
> to be religious, but acting CONTRARY to the teachings of every religion, > you atheists are guilty of the murder of 80,000,000 victims of
> the atheist states in the 20th century, and there is nothing in the > teachings of atheism which prohibits such terror, torture and mass murder.
> So, not only you, but ATHEISM ITSELF, stands condemned by YOUR standard.
>> But this seems to have triggered something--
> Among decent folk, Muslim, Christian and Jews.
> Muslim women and
> > girls all over Pakistan are
>> wearing caps and shirts saying "I Am Malala".
> And yet you malign atheist trolls condemn ALL religious, including them!
> pfffttt!
> Your irrational, hate-filled ranting condemns YOU!
> --
> The foremost atheist Philosopher of our age recently
> launched his new book "Religion for Atheists" and
> no atheists are interested in talking about it:
# Well, well, dear old fangnasher tries to distinguish between different types of religionists, while simultaneously having a go at his hated atheists.
Yes, a Taliban Civilisation does seem a long stretch.
"Fasgnadh" claims to be an agnostic, but is he really a theist in disguise (wolf in sheep's clothing)? His constant apologetics for religion would seem to hint at it.
>> "Pakistani clerics condemn Taliban s attack on Malala"
>> "Clerics in Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad, Rawalpindi, Peshawar, Quetta and
>> other cities condemned the attack and termed it as un-Islamic and said
>> Islam doesn t allow terrorism and killing of children and women."
It should be clear to any rational reader that the vile actions of the Taliban have been condemned by Islamic and other religious authorities.
But the atheists choose to ignore the facts and BLAME ALL RELIGIOUS PEOPLE, .. not just ALL MUslims, which would be a clear injustice
when the vast majority of them are the VICTIMS of the Taliban and
condemn their actions, but even CHRISTIANS!!???
Can anyone explain the actions of these atheists, other than a blind hatred as deep as the Talibans?
Lets see how DonH, the only atheist brave enough to even respond,
explains this irrational attack on Muslims, Christians and Jews....
>> "Muslim women react to Pakistan girl's shooting"
Malala is a Muslim. Almost ALL of the VICTIMS of the Taliban are Muslim.
Atheists are blaming the VICTIMS, not the Taliban!
>> "As Malala Yousafzai fights for her life after having a bullet removed
>> from her neck at a hospital in Peshawar, an outpouring of shock, grief and
>> anger has swept across Pakistan and the world."
>> except for the hate filled atheist bigots! 8^o
>> While Islamic Clerics join other Pakistani Muslims, and those around the
>> world to condemn the Taliban, these atheist propagandists
>> use this child to attack them.
>> What a disgrace, they are no better than the Taliban.
So, Don, how do you explain this atheist response, which tries
to equate the Taliban not only with their victims, MUSLIMS, but also with Christians! 8^o 8^o
>>>> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
>>>> doing this
Don, as the atheist who has chosen to defend this atheist liars disgraceful slander, just tell us when and where you hate-filled bigots claim Christians shot Malala Yousafzai.
If you can't, you all stand condemned for DEFENDING the Taliban by blaming the innocents you try to persecute, just as EVERY atheist regime in history has done {copious evidence for MY accusations will be provided on request, NONE is ever provided for the vile atheist hate-speech)
>> The Muslims you hate-filled bigots brand as ALL "CRAZY" and the Christians
>> were all condemning the Taliban.. while you scum are trying to use that
>> poor child's shooting to whip up hysterical hatred of them ALL for doing
>> so!!!!
>> WHY ARE YOU DEFLECTING CRITICISM OF THE TALIBAN THUGS ONTO
>> THOSE WHO CONDEMN THEM!?!!!!!!
Apparently the atheists HAVE NO ANSWER.. it is pure, hate-filled bigotry on their part, with no foundation in fact.
>> You are no better than the Taliban you protect - THEY SHOOT THE INNOCENT..
>> YOU BLAME THE INNOCENT,
>> in both cases your HATE consumes your reason.
>>>> and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
>>>> bombing clinics and shooting doctors.
some? You hold ALL Muslims and ALL Christians responsible
for the actions of some tiny, unrepresentative MINORITY of
believers 5 centuries ago? 8^o How IRRATIONAL!
Your Doctrine of Collective Responsibility, the same basis on which
Nazis killed whole villages whenever a partisan attack on them occurred
nearby, has dire consequences for atheists, given that EVERY atheist regime in history was a murderous tyranny.
>> Ok if you hold ALL religious collectively responsible for
>> the actions of ANY one claiming to be one of them, then
>> they will hold all atheists responsible for the 80,000,000
>> people tortured, terrorised and killed in the atheist regimes
>> of the 20th century, far more than the death toll of any religion
>> in history, and far more recent than the events you dredge up from
>> CENTURIES AGO!
>> Your malign hatred matches that of the atheist tyrannies AND
>> the Taliban.
These hate filled atheists even reveal further links with Nazis,
their anti-semitism holds all jews responsible for events described
in the Bible they keep telling us is not real evidence of anything! 8^o
Their hatred is only exceeded by their hypocrisy;
>>>> The Judaists were doing this
>>>> and worse in Biblical times.
Anyone ever heard any evidence of this atheist claim that Jews
shot Malala?
They appear to be as INSANE as the conspiracy nuts who claim that the USA blew up the WTC! 8^o
>> Wow, you vile anti-semite, you even try to use this Taliban
>> atrocity to attack the Jews!! 8^o
>>>> It's not *the* religion,
>> That's right, harming innocents is CONDEMNED by the religion.
>> And carried out by the Taliban, and YOU!
And yet blaming the innocents is EXACTLY what these hate-filled
atheist bigots do, slandering the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, Bob Marley, Buddhist monks, Muslim children like Malala, choir boys, President Obama, ..all of the 75% of the worlds population who are believers:
>>>> it's religion period.
>>
>> 8^o
So there you have the atheists Evil theory of Collective Responsibility.
They hold ALL RELIGION responsible for the actions of the Taliban shooting one innocent girl who dared to speak against such ignorance,
bigotry and hate!
Well, I don't hold All atheists guilty of the bigotry of Bukakke and
Jeanne, just those who make themselves complicit by SUPPORTING their
vile slanders in USENET, Youtube and every other atheist venue where
they claim atheism is 'no more than non-belief in something' and then
spend all day spouting this anti-religious hate-speech.
Exposing them is easy. As you can all see, they run away.. only DonH
responds with his feeble apologias, avoiding the issues and simply
engaging in speculative straw man attempts to shift ground to ad hom attacks.. they always try to SHOOT THE MESSENGER when valid condemnation of atheist propaganda and hate speech is made.
>>> And they've said that if Malala survives they will keep trying until
>>> they do kill her.
>> "They" being the Taliban, condemned by Muslims and Christians alike..
>> and yet you atheists use this crime to condemn the VAST MAJORITY of
>> innocent Muslims and Christians and Jews!?!!!!
Shameful.
And DonH demonstrates the atheists have no argument, no rebuttal.
>> And you use the same tactics the Nazis used, they would focus on an
>> individual criminal who was Jewish and BLAME ALL JEWS... inciting
>> such hatred of the entire group that they could persecute and kill
>> 6,000,000 of them.
>> And you are using the propaganda techniques of Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Pol
>> Pot, the leaders of the atheist tyrannies, to stir up hatred of all
>> religious so they could destroy their churches, temples and synagogues and
>> slaughter millions of them.
>> By YOUR sick doctrine of Collective Responsibility, blaming ALL religious
>> for the actions of a tiny, unrepresentative minority CLAIMING
>> to be religious, but acting CONTRARY to the teachings of every religion,
>> you atheists are guilty of the murder of 80,000,000 victims of
>> the atheist states in the 20th century, and there is nothing in the
>> teachings of atheism which prohibits such terror, torture and mass murder.
>> So, not only you, but ATHEISM ITSELF, stands condemned by YOUR standard.
>>> But this seems to have triggered something--
>> Among decent folk, Muslim, Christian and Jews.
>> Muslim women and
>>> girls all over Pakistan are
>>> wearing caps and shirts saying "I Am Malala".
>> And yet you malign atheist trolls condemn ALL religious, including them!
>> pfffttt!
>> Your irrational, hate-filled ranting condemns YOU!
> # Well, well, dear old fangnasher tries to distinguish between different
> types of religionists,
You mean you can't?
That is the classic definition of BLIND BIGOTRY.
> while simultaneously having a go at his hated atheists.
I don't hate atheists, en bloc, I just critique the hate-filled bigots, and their apologists, like you.
Unlike you bigots, I can DISTINGUISH between intelligent non-believers such as Alain de Botton, Phillip Adams, Brian Eno, all of whom can distinguish between the Inquisition and the Methodist ladies Cake Stall,
and you poor, hate-filled bigots who can't even tell the diffeerence between a Taliban and a Sikh.
I post because it is hate filled bigots like you, who can't "distinguish between different types of religionists" and claim that
those who can are wrong, who bashed Sikhs during the Cronulla riots,
thinking they were Muslims because of their turbans!
Distinguishing between the actions of "Humans" and the INDIVIDUALS
WHO COMMIT CRIMES is they only defence we Humans have against bigots
such as you who condemn us all for the actions of OTHERS unrelated to us except by a CATEGORY LABEL, 'women', 'Jews', 'blacks', 'Muslims'.
I wait till you ACT like a hate-filled bigot before I brand you as one.
> Yes,
And all you can do in response is ignore what I say, try and
misrepresent it, create straw man attempts to shift ground
and hide in irrelevant blather;
> a Taliban Civilisation does seem a long stretch.
Of course, all the great and enduring civilisations are BASED ON
the spiritual teachings that
...
>>> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
>>> doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
>>> bombing clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this
>>> and worse in Biblical times.
>>> It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
>>> Budikka
>> Why have you not -also- noted what they
>> did to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?
>> Why is that?
>> Explain.
>> He did all things well.
>> He made the deaf to hear and the blind to see.
>> But they (the religionists) treated Him contemptuously,
>> ..and murdered Him.
>> Nevertheless He is coming back in power and great glory
>> to take His people to the places that He has gone to prepare
>> for them.
>> "I am going to prepare a place for you. When everything
>> is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always
>> be with me where I am." John 14:2-3
Yeah, the deaf could hear and the blind could see but he could never
master the art of regrowing limbs. Didn't
you ever wonder about that?????
>> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
>> doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
>> bombing clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this
>> and worse in Biblical times.
>> It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
>> Budikka
>Why have you not -also- noted what they
>did to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?
>Why is that?
>Explain.
>He did all things well.
>He made the deaf to hear and the blind to see.
>But they (the religionists) treated Him contemptuously,
>..and murdered Him.
No no no. You Christians haven't even grasped the basics of your own
mythical theology. The Jews merely facilitated the death of your
savior. The suffering, torture and death on the cross was preplanned
by god/Jesus and needed to take place in order to save you from your
sins. However, it was just a hat trick considering Jesus was
sacrificing himself to himself and being he was part/all (who the fuck
knows) god he wouldn't have felt any pain and could have terminated
the process at any point in time. In any case, the whole idea was
senseless and pointless becuase if there were a god that god would
simply have forgiven sin outright. The concept of human sacrifice is
stracitly a human concoction derived from ancient religons which only
humans would employ.
I'd suggest that you switch your worship rituals to the Blue Fairy. It
would be a lot less morbid, vile, complicated, and confusing for you.
>Nevertheless He is coming back in power and great glory
>to take His people to the places that He has gone to prepare
>for them.
>"I am going to prepare a place for you. When everything
> is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always
> be with me where I am." John 14:2-3
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:59:26 -0700 (PDT), Ken <flakey...@aol.com>
wrote:
>Loads of worthless Fagsnatch rantings and ravings snipped (as a public
>service)
That's the ticket. It was just Chaff blowing in the wind. He leaves
his usual stink.
I am suprised you bothered responding we just mostly ignore
his rants these days, knowing what to expect.
Les Hellawell
Greeting from:
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
"In our more diverse and secular society, the place of religion has
come to be a matter of lively discussion. It is rightly acknowledged
that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue and that the wellbeing
and prosperity of the nation depend on the contribution of individuals
and groups of all faiths and of none. "
- Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II
- from a speech to the Synond of the Church of England in 2010
>>>> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
>>>> doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
>>>> bombing clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this
>>>> and worse in Biblical times.
>>>> It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
>>>> Budikka
>>> Why have you not -also- noted what they
>>> did to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?
>>> Why is that?
>>> Explain.
>>> He did all things well.
He is said to have made a very fine wine at a wedding but didn't think to do so when he provided a fish and bread meal for a large gathering. I guess it was a BYOB event.
He also had a violent temper like his dad. He once chased some businessmen out of a temple with a whip and overturned their tables. I'll admit it was rather tame compared to the slaughter of innocent children in the Noah's flood, Egyptian plagues, and Job stories.
>>> He made the deaf to hear and the blind to see. >>
>>> But they (the religionists) treated Him contemptuously,
>>> ..and murdered Him.
He was convicted of a capital crime by a religious court and executed by Roman pagans. Barabbas, a common criminal, had more fans than your Jesus.
>>> Nevertheless He is coming back in power and great glory
>>> to take His people to the places that He has gone to prepare
>>> for them.
>>> "I am going to prepare a place for you. When everything
>>> is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always
>>> be with me where I am." John 14:2-3
You're forgetting his 'This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.' promise. Why would anyone believe anything your Jesus said after that spectacular failure?
> Yeah, the deaf could hear and the blind could see but he could never
> master the art of regrowing limbs. Didn't
> you ever wonder about that?????
Like his dad, he hated amputees. He couldn't even come up with prosthetic limbs for them. There was not a single mention of amputees in his famous 'blessed are' speech.
>>>> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
>>>> doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
>>>> bombing clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this
>>>> and worse in Biblical times.
>>>> It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
>>>> Budikka
>>> Why have you not -also- noted what they
>>> did to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?
>>> Why is that?
>>> Explain.
>>> He did all things well.
>>> He made the deaf to hear and the blind to see.
>>> But they (the religionists) treated Him contemptuously,
>>> ..and murdered Him.
>>> Nevertheless He is coming back in power and great glory
>>> to take His people to the places that He has gone to prepare
>>> for them.
>>> "I am going to prepare a place for you. When everything
>>> is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always
>>> be with me where I am." John 14:2-3
> Yeah, the deaf could hear and the blind could see
You acknowledge that it's true.
> but he could never master the art of regrowing limbs.
> Didn't you ever wonder about that?????
"And behold, there was a man who had his hand withered.
Then He said to the man, "Stretch forth thine hand."
And he stretched it forth, and it was restored whole like
the other." Matthew 12
> Lest anyone think this is just "crazy Muslims", the Christians were
> doing this and worse five hundred years ago, and some still are,
> bombing clinics and shooting doctors. The Judaists were doing this
> and worse in Biblical times.
> It's not *the* religion, it's religion period.
> Budikka
Ever hear of the Reformation. I'm Methodist and I've never heard of
Methodist shooting anyone for wanting an education.
