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JM200...@hotmail.com

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Feb 16, 2008, 3:35:54 PM2/16/08
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor

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JM200...@hotmail.com wrote:
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFLFFBhcUEM&NR=1
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Is this your video?

No? Then fuck you.

Go away liar.

- --
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than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Zanthius

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Feb 16, 2008, 4:36:51 PM2/16/08
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> No? Then fuck you.
>
> Go away liar.

What do you have against people spreading their positive energy?

Are you so fucking jealous? Does it hurt you to see people happy?

Ye Old One

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Feb 16, 2008, 4:38:39 PM2/16/08
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 12:35:54 -0800 (PST), JM200...@hotmail.com
enriched this group when s/he wrote:

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFLFFBhcUEM&NR=1

McClueless Video Challenge - Month 2 and still counting.

McPiltdown Deathmarch - Month 20 and still 1,997,000 school textbooks
to account for.

Censorship by talk.origins and/or Google - several months after your
first claims and still not one shred of evidence.

We are ALL waiting for you McClueless. These matters are NOT going to
go away.

--
Bob.

raven1

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Feb 16, 2008, 4:42:48 PM2/16/08
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 12:35:54 -0800 (PST), JM200...@hotmail.com
wrote:

By your own example, apparently you're intent on portraying Christians
as dishonest ignoramuses.

LC

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Feb 16, 2008, 4:46:13 PM2/16/08
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"raven1" <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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Why let Dook have a monopoly on that stereotype?

Hollis Brown

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Feb 16, 2008, 6:08:13 PM2/16/08
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On Feb 16, 1:35 pm, JM20000...@hotmail.com wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFLFFBhcUEM&NR=1

Sure, Christian rockers are cute. Here is a more typical Christian:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UMP3AK5jwo


JM200...@hotmail.com

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Feb 16, 2008, 10:37:03 PM2/16/08
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Typical? Hmmmm. Let's see.

I've been to probably around 30 or so churches in my time, maybe just
visiting or attending, sometimes 2 at atime, and also attended some
5-6 different Christian college groups and never seen any of this
stuff.

Don't where you get your ideas.

JM

raven1

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Feb 16, 2008, 11:29:33 PM2/16/08
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 19:37:03 -0800 (PST), JM200...@hotmail.com
wrote:

>On Feb 16, 3:08 pm, Hollis Brown <AT_Tapp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 16, 1:35 pm, JM20000...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFLFFBhcUEM&NR=1
>>
>> Sure, Christian rockers are cute.  Here is a more typical Christian:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UMP3AK5jwo
>
>Typical? Hmmmm. Let's see.
>
>I've been to probably around 30 or so churches in my time, maybe just
>visiting or attending, sometimes 2 at a time

That's quite a feat. Can you teach bilocation to others, or is it a
gift of the Holy Spirit?

On a more serious note, have you ever attended a non-Fundamentalist
church, where people understand that literalism is not always the
appropriate approach to understanding the Bible, or who understand
that when one's personal interpretation of scripture conflicts with
observed reality, there's more likely something wrong with your
interpretation of scripture than with observed reality? You might
actually learn something.

Mike Painter

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Feb 16, 2008, 11:45:44 PM2/16/08
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36/20,000 = .18% of the different registered sects if they were all
different.

I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge,
about to jump off. So I ran over and said, "Stop! Don't do it!"
"Why shouldn't I?" he said.

I said, "Well, there's so much to live for!"

He said, "Like what?"

I said, "Well...are you religious or atheist?"

He said, "Religious."

I said, "Me too! Are you Christian or Buddhist?"

He said, "Christian."

I said, "Me too! Are you Catholic or Protestant?"

He said, "Protestant."

I said, "Me too! Are you Episcopalian or Baptist?"

He said, "Baptist!"

I said, "Wow! Me too! Are you Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the
Lord?"

He said, "Baptist Church of God!"

I said, "Me too! Are you original Baptist Church of God, or are you Reformed
Baptist Church of God?"

He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God!"

I said, "Me too! Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, reformation of
1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, reformation of 1915?"

He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God, reformation of 1915!"

I said, "Die, heretic scum!" and pushed him off.


JM200...@hotmail.com

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Feb 17, 2008, 12:38:11 AM2/17/08
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On Feb 16, 8:29 pm, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 19:37:03 -0800 (PST), JM20000...@hotmail.com

Grouping a bunch of large ape skulls together with humans skulls
doesn't prove that men came from apes. Taking a very small portion of
the human genome, while not disclosing the fact that you're using a
small portion of the human genome, and comparing it to a small portion
of the monkey genome, and proclaiming a 94-6-7 or whatever percentage
similarity is disingenous. The human genome wasn't even read until
recently, yet in the 80's we were told about the supposed similarity.
So on fossils and genetics you lost.

These two portions of supposed reality that Christians are ignoring
truly have been debunked.

So what other realities, how about the massive oil reserves and coal
reserves? These were not deposited through long geologic time spans.
You don't find vast coal reserves being made today. Where are they?
And where did all that sediment come from to bury the coal and oil in
one huge gigantic proportion?

So, you see, you are ignoring the reality, my friend.

JM

JM200...@hotmail.com

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Feb 17, 2008, 1:04:55 AM2/17/08
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On Feb 16, 8:45 pm, "Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

That's ridiculous. And I came along and said, do doth thou atheist
believe in strawmen?

Do you believe that Jesus is the son of God and rose from the dead?

JM

raven1

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Feb 17, 2008, 1:22:16 AM2/17/08
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:38:11 -0800 (PST), JM200...@hotmail.com
wrote:

>On Feb 16, 8:29 pm, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 19:37:03 -0800 (PST), JM20000...@hotmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Feb 16, 3:08 pm, Hollis Brown <AT_Tapp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Feb 16, 1:35 pm, JM20000...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFLFFBhcUEM&NR=1
>>
>> >> Sure, Christian rockers are cute.  Here is a more typical Christian:
>>
>> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UMP3AK5jwo
>>
>> >Typical?  Hmmmm.  Let's see.
>>
>> >I've been to probably around 30 or so churches in my time, maybe just
>> >visiting or attending, sometimes 2 at a time
>>
>> That's quite a feat. Can you teach bilocation to others, or is it a
>> gift of the Holy Spirit?
>>
>> On a more serious note, have you ever attended a non-Fundamentalist
>> church, where people understand that literalism is not always the
>> appropriate approach to understanding the Bible, or who understand
>> that when one's personal interpretation of scripture conflicts with
>> observed reality, there's more likely something wrong with your
>> interpretation of scripture than with observed reality? You might
>> actually learn something.
>
>Grouping a bunch of large ape skulls together with humans skulls
>doesn't prove that men came from apes.

OK, enough with trying to be polite to you. Seriously, what is your
mental malfunction? I try to address you without insulting you for
once, just to suggest that you might want to explore something new,
and your response is to spew out the same idiotic strawmen that you
specialize in.

> Taking a very small portion of
>the human genome, while not disclosing the fact that you're using a
>small portion of the human genome, and comparing it to a small portion
>of the monkey genome, and proclaiming a 94-6-7 or whatever percentage
>similarity is disingenous. The human genome wasn't even read until
>recently, yet in the 80's we were told about the supposed similarity.

You've had this explained to you so often that it's either incredibly
dishonest or incredibly stupid of you to bring it up again, as if we
haven't heard it before, or you haven't had it explained to you
before.

>So on fossils and genetics you lost.

Actually, genetics is the best indication we have that humans and apes
are so closely related that it would be silly not to classify humans
as apes. But you've also been told that so often that it is truly
intellectually perverse for you to declare otherwise.

>These two portions of supposed reality that Christians are ignoring
>truly have been debunked.

How odd that only Biblical literalists are able to note what should be
blindingly obvious to every biologist, including non-literalist
Christians, were it true. What do you think might be the reason for
that? Are they all atheist agents out to hide God's truth? Or might it
*possibly* be that they're using the brains that God gave them to
determine what the truth actually is, rather than rely on a
simple-minded literalism that the authors never intended.

>So what other realities, how about the massive oil reserves and coal
>reserves? These were not deposited through long geologic time spans.
>You don't find vast coal reserves being made today. Where are they?

How long do you think it takes to form such reserves, McMoron? Why
would you possibly think that we should observe their formation today,
or that they could be created virtually overnight in a global flood
that geologists recognized never happened long before Darwin?

Seriously, instead of asking the same idiotic questions ad nauseam,
and ignoring the responses, why don't you take a few college level
courses in biology and geology?

Ben Kaufman

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Feb 17, 2008, 1:56:50 AM2/17/08
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:08:13 -0800 (PST), Hollis Brown <AT_Ta...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

I was guessing it was going to be this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3mDLsyn6ns&feature=related

Ben

Ye Old One

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Feb 17, 2008, 6:13:26 AM2/17/08
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 19:37:03 -0800 (PST), JM200...@hotmail.com

enriched this group when s/he wrote:

>On Feb 16, 3:08 pm, Hollis Brown <AT_Tapp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 16, 1:35 pm, JM20000...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFLFFBhcUEM&NR=1
>>
>> Sure, Christian rockers are cute.  Here is a more typical Christian:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UMP3AK5jwo
>
>Typical? Hmmmm. Let's see.
>
>I've been to probably around 30 or so churches in my time, maybe just
>visiting or attending, sometimes 2 at atime,

You managed to attend two churches a the same time? Bugger, you do
claim some very stupid things.

>and also attended some
>5-6 different Christian college groups

Bet you got kicked out of every one of them. Christians don't like you
McClueless - you are toooooo stupid even for the majority of stupid
fundies.

> and never seen any of this
>stuff.
>
>Don't where you get your ideas.

Please try to use ENGLISH in future.
>
>JM

Ye Old One

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Feb 17, 2008, 6:26:12 AM2/17/08
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:38:11 -0800 (PST), JM200...@hotmail.com

enriched this group when s/he wrote:

>On Feb 16, 8:29 pm, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 19:37:03 -0800 (PST), JM20000...@hotmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Feb 16, 3:08 pm, Hollis Brown <AT_Tapp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Feb 16, 1:35 pm, JM20000...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFLFFBhcUEM&NR=1
>>
>> >> Sure, Christian rockers are cute.  Here is a more typical Christian:
>>
>> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UMP3AK5jwo
>>
>> >Typical?  Hmmmm.  Let's see.
>>
>> >I've been to probably around 30 or so churches in my time, maybe just
>> >visiting or attending, sometimes 2 at a time
>>
>> That's quite a feat. Can you teach bilocation to others, or is it a
>> gift of the Holy Spirit?
>>
>> On a more serious note, have you ever attended a non-Fundamentalist
>> church, where people understand that literalism is not always the
>> appropriate approach to understanding the Bible, or who understand
>> that when one's personal interpretation of scripture conflicts with
>> observed reality, there's more likely something wrong with your
>> interpretation of scripture than with observed reality? You might
>> actually learn something.
>
>Grouping a bunch of large ape skulls together with humans skulls
>doesn't prove that men came from apes.

Humans _ARE_ apes McClueless. Are you really incapable of learning
simple facts like that?

> Taking a very small portion of
>the human genome, while not disclosing the fact that you're using a
>small portion of the human genome, and comparing it to a small portion
>of the monkey genome, and proclaiming a 94-6-7 or whatever percentage
>similarity is disingenous.

Good job that is not the way it is done then.

> The human genome wasn't even read until
>recently, yet in the 80's we were told about the supposed similarity.
>So on fossils and genetics you lost.

You should know by now McClueless, that it is always YOU that is the
loser - every single time. You have never, in all your history on
usenet, managed to win an argument.


>
>These two portions of supposed reality that Christians are ignoring
>truly have been debunked.
>
>So what other realities, how about the massive oil reserves and coal
>reserves? These were not deposited through long geologic time spans.

Yes they were.

>You don't find vast coal reserves being made today.

Yes you do.

> Where are they?

In most tropical areas.

>And where did all that sediment come from to bury the coal and oil in
>one huge gigantic proportion?

Erosion.


>
>So, you see, you are ignoring the reality, my friend.

We know that if YOU claim something is wrong then it almost certainly
isn't.

Ye Old One

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Feb 17, 2008, 6:28:39 AM2/17/08
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enriched this group when s/he wrote:

No and No.

Mark K. Bilbo

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Feb 17, 2008, 9:16:46 AM2/17/08
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 13:36:51 -0800 in
aa9551d0-bdae-4461...@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com, Zanthius
<zanthius...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Says the troll who butts into alt.atheism just to piss in peoples'
faces...

--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
“The men the American people admire most
extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men
they detest most violently are those who try to
tell them the truth.”

- H. L. Mencken

Hatter

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Feb 17, 2008, 10:43:23 AM2/17/08
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On Feb 16, 4:36 pm, Zanthius <zanthius_of_d...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > No?  Then fuck you.
>
> > Go away liar.
>
> What do you have against people spreading their positive energy?
>
Sorry, I'm not Christian, being against postive is usually their job

> Are you so fucking jealous?

Again you are assuming I'm Christian. That's generally their job

Does it hurt you to see people happy?

Again you are assuming I'm Christian. That's generally their job

Hatter

Mike Painter

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Feb 17, 2008, 4:39:48 PM2/17/08
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It's a joke son, but the history of Christianity shows that at one point
death frequently happened to those who had slightly different views.


Mark K. Bilbo

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Feb 18, 2008, 10:39:25 AM2/18/08
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:04:55 -0800 in
804d3722-9fa1-461c...@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com,
JM200...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Do you believe that Jesus is the son of God and rose from the dead?

Of course not. Don't be silly.

--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------

"You know, I'd get it if people were just looking for a
way to fill the holes. But they want the holes. They wanna
live in the holes. And they go nuts when someone else
pours dirt in their holes.

"Climb out of your holes people!"

- Dr. House, on faith

Ben Kaufman

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Feb 18, 2008, 8:53:44 PM2/18/08
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Why don't you first convince us the moon is made out of cheese. Maybe you, Pahu
and Ling Tai could work on that one together?


Ben

panam...@hotmail.com

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Feb 18, 2008, 9:11:30 PM2/18/08
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Whiny, irrelevant, and self-centered. If he had made a few racist or
sexist comments, he'd be *exactly* how I see Christians.

-PF, Atl.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!

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