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Vatican calls verbal attack on Pope "terrorism"
By Robin PomeroyWed May 2, 1:11 PM ET
The Vatican's official newspaper accused an Italian comedian on
Wednesday of "terrorism" for criticizing the Pope and warned his
rhetoric could fuel a return to 1970s-style political violence.
In an unusually strongly worded editorial, L'Osservatore Romano said a
presenter of a televised May Day rock concert, which is sponsored by
Italy's labor unions, had launched "vile attacks" on Pope Benedict in
front of an "excitable crowd."
"This, too, is terrorism. It's terrorism to launch attacks on the
Church," it said. "It's terrorism to stoke blind and irrational rage
against someone who always speaks in the name of love, love for life and
love for man."
At the concert, held every year in front of the Saint John in Lateran
basilica -- Rome's cathedral where Pope Benedict sits as bishop -- one
of the presenters, Andrea Rivera, spoke out against the Pontiff's stand
on a number of issues.
"The Pope says he doesn't believe in evolution. I agree, in fact the
Church has never evolved," he said.
He also criticized the Church for refusing to give a Catholic funeral to
Piergiorgio Welby, a man who campaigned for euthanasia as he lay
paralyzed with muscular dystrophy. He died in December after a doctor
agreed to unplug his respirator.
"I can't stand the fact that the Vatican refused a funeral for Welby but
that wasn't the case for (Chilean dictator Augusto) Pinochet or (Spanish
dictator Francisco) Franco," he said between musical acts at the
open-air concert.
The latest salvo between the Vatican and its critics in Italy comes a
few days after the head of Italy's bishops' conference, Archbishop
Angelo Bagnasco, received a bullet in the post after making comments
that his critics say compared homosexuality with incest and pedophilia.
The Osservatore said Rivera's monologue came amid growing
anti-clericalism in Italy which included graffiti and Internet messages
supporting the Red Brigades, the Marxist group involved in political
violence particularly in the 1970s.
"Some people have even twisted (Bagnasco's words) to start an insidious
'war', a new season of tension, which is inspiring those who are looking
for motives to return to taking up arms," the newspaper said.
Prime Minister Romano Prodi, a devout Catholic who is backing
legislation to give legal rights to unmarried couples, including
homosexuals -- a bill opposed by the Church -- called for calm.
"We have to have calm and good sense," he told reporters. "Unfortunately
the rhetoric has continuously been getting harsher over recent months.
This country doesn't need it."
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"johac" <jhac...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Diss the pope and you're a terrorist?
Ya mean, I can't call the Nazi a Nazi anymore.
Vatican, bite me.
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No-one expects the Spanish Inquisition!!
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>Diss the pope and you're a terrorist?
That is a hoot. The last Pope had kinder words about a man who actually shot
him!
Ben
>"johac" <jhac...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:jhachmann-FB673...@news.giganews.com...
>> Diss the pope and you're a terrorist?
>
>Ya mean, I can't call the Nazi a Nazi anymore.
>Vatican, bite me.
Sounds a bit schizophrenic to me. "Talking against me is a criminal
act." Maybe the Church will finally learn that it no longer rules the
world.
True. As conservative as JP2 was, he was considered 'too soft' by the
rest of hierarchy. At least he embraced evolution.
>
> Ben
Please! These days it's called the "Congregation for the Doctrine of the
Faith ". That was Ratzis old job before he got to be pope.
So now it's "Nobody expects the CD!"
> "johac" <jhac...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:jhachmann-FB673...@news.giganews.com...
> > Diss the pope and you're a terrorist?
>
> Ya mean, I can't call the Nazi a Nazi anymore.
> Vatican, bite me.
Omigosh, Mickey! You're a terrorist!
If the Church is worried about criticism, why don't they clean up their
act first and then join the twenty first century.
I think it's stuck in the 11th century.
> So now it's "Nobody expects the CD!"
> --
Doesn't have the same ring to it..
PDW, "..And nice red uniforms.. Damn!:
I didn't know he was a nun.
>> So now it's "Nobody expects the CD!"
>> --
>Doesn't have the same ring to it..
>
>PDW, "..And nice red uniforms.. Damn!:
I'll come in again...
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Oh, puh-leeze! I'm make fun of the pope if I damn well want to! Sheesh!
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> >> So now it's "Nobody expects the CD!"
> >> --
> >Doesn't have the same ring to it..
>
> >PDW, "..And nice red uniforms.. Damn!:
>
> I'll come in again...
>
> --
"Nobody expects, uh, uh.."
PDW
PDW, who doesn't care what the pope says..
Medieval mindset.
> On May 3, 1:12 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > In article <o2gi339mufb9kk1424hfstq7646ga56...@4ax.com>,
> > Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 02 May 2007 16:45:33 -0700, johac
> > > <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > - Refer: <jhachmann-FB673F.16453302052...@news.giganews.com>
> > > >Diss the pope and you're a terrorist?
> >
> > > No-one expects the Spanish Inquisition!!
> >
> > Please! These days it's called the "Congregation for the Doctrine of the
> > Faith ". That was Ratzis old job before he got to be pope.
> >
> Ahhh... Old habbits die hard..
The popes a Hobbit?
>
> > So now it's "Nobody expects the CD!"
Should have been CDF.
> > --
> Doesn't have the same ring to it..
True. Maybe it should be the Ratzi Kops.
>
> PDW, "..And nice red uniforms.. Damn!:
Matching ski masks.
Ask a choirboy.
>> >> So now it's "Nobody expects the CD!"
>> >> --
>> >Doesn't have the same ring to it..
>>
>> >PDW, "..And nice red uniforms.. Damn!:
>>
>> I'll come in again...
>>
>> --
>"Nobody expects, uh, uh.."
It's no good. Cardinal Fang! You'll have to say it.
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Oh, I, I, I couldn't do that...
PDW
> > > --
> > Doesn't have the same ring to it..
>
> True. Maybe it should be the Ratzi Kops.
>
Kinda like the Keystone Kops?
>
> > PDW, "..And nice red uniforms.. Damn!:
>
> Matching ski masks.
> --
That too..
PDW, "Give the rack.. Oh, dear. Give the rack a turn."
>Oh, I, I, I couldn't do that...
You'll have to say the bit about: "Our Pope Weapons are..."
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Is he a Buddhist with those yellow Sauron Robes?
>> > > So now it's "Nobody expects the CD!"
>>
>> Should have been CDF.
>>
>Still, doesn't have the same ring to it..
>
>> > > --
>> > Doesn't have the same ring to it..
>>
>> True. Maybe it should be the Ratzi Kops.
>>
>Kinda like the Keystone Kops?
>>
>> > PDW, "..And nice red uniforms.. Damn!:
>>
>> Matching ski masks.
>> --
>That too..
>
>PDW, "Give the rack.. Oh, dear. Give the rack a turn."
It makes it all seem so stupid.
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Yikes! That brings to mind thumbscrews and burnings at the stake :P
> > Medieval mindset.
>
> Yikes! That brings to mind thumbscrews and burnings at the stake :P
Or waterboarding at Guantanamo. Our most overtly Christian,
religiously connected administration in a century is also
our most torturous. Coincidence?
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PDW
PDW
> On May 3, 6:36 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > In article <1178169618.109483.258...@c35g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> > "Syd M." <pdwrigh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On May 3, 1:12 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > > In article <o2gi339mufb9kk1424hfstq7646ga56...@4ax.com>,
> > > > Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Wed, 02 May 2007 16:45:33 -0700, johac
> > > > > <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > > > - Refer: <jhachmann-FB673F.16453302052...@news.giganews.com>
> > > > > >Diss the pope and you're a terrorist?
> >
> > > > > No-one expects the Spanish Inquisition!!
> >
> > > > Please! These days it's called the "Congregation for the Doctrine of the
> > > > Faith ". That was Ratzis old job before he got to be pope.
> >
> > > Ahhh... Old habbits die hard..
> >
> > The popes a Hobbit?
> >
> Naw, actially he's Sauron in disguise...
I would have thought Sauron would have been more clever.
> >
> > > > So now it's "Nobody expects the CD!"
> >
> > Should have been CDF.
> >
> Still, doesn't have the same ring to it..
The Vatican City Security Squad or SS? On second thought, maybe not.
>
> > > > --
> > > Doesn't have the same ring to it..
> >
> > True. Maybe it should be the Ratzi Kops.
> >
> Kinda like the Keystone Kops?
Taht would be the bishops running in circles bopping each other on the
head with their staffs.
> >
> > > PDW, "..And nice red uniforms.. Damn!:
> >
> > Matching ski masks.
> > --
> That too..
>
> PDW, "Give the rack.. Oh, dear. Give the rack a turn."
Heh!
> "johac" <jhac...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:jhachmann-D1324...@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <59uu42F...@mid.individual.net>,
> > "Robibnikoff" <witc...@broomstick.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "johac" <jhac...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> >> news:jhachmann-FB673...@news.giganews.com...
> >> > Diss the pope and you're a terrorist?
> >> >
> >> > ---
> >> > Vatican calls verbal attack on Pope "terrorism"
> >> >
> >> > By Robin PomeroyWed May 2, 1:11 PM ET
> >> >
> >> > The Vatican's official newspaper accused an Italian comedian on
> >> > Wednesday of "terrorism" for criticizing the Pope and warned his
> >> > rhetoric could fuel a return to 1970s-style political violence.
> >>
> >> Oh, puh-leeze! I'm make fun of the pope if I damn well want to! Sheesh!
> >
> > Medieval mindset.
>
> Yikes! That brings to mind thumbscrews and burnings at the stake :P
Nah! That's so yesterday. Now they just sic the nuns on them. :-)
Guantanamo?
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Nun but the brave deserve the unfair.
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It's all so much nunsense.
PDW
Yesterday was the 35th anniversary of Moe's death, the last of the Stooges.
Larry Fine died earlier that same year (1975).
Ben
I think all the Stooges are dead now, aren't they? Didn't Joe
Whatsisname pass away a couple of years back..?
PDW
And Cardinal Larry and Cardinal Curly.
> >
> > > > > PDW, "..And nice red uniforms.. Damn!:
> >
> > > > Matching ski masks.
> > > > --
> > > That too..
> >
> > > PDW, "Give the rack.. Oh, dear. Give the rack a turn."
> >
> > Heh!
> > --
> "I never wanted to do this for a living, you know.. I always wanted to
> be.."
> "A lumberjack!"
>
> PDW
PDW
But they were all Jews!
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He must be gone by now, but in my book it was Moe, Larry, Curly and Shep.
Ben
Well, no analogy is perfect..
PDW
I'm pretty sure he is.. Hell, they were all born around the turn of
the twentieth century..
BTW, that's my clasic line-up as well..
PDW, "Pick two!"
Not in the least. When you KNOW in your heart that you are doing
God's work one does not have moral qualms about the methods. If one
HAS to practice the irrationality of believing in God, the best way to
approach the world is Lincoln's attitude. Supposedly Lincoln had a
meeting with his generals to determine Civil War strategy and at the
conclusion of the meeting when they were drinking sherry one of
Lincoln's generals proposed a toast "How fortunate we are that God is
on our side." Lincoln responded by saying "I am troubled by the
question 'are we on his side?' "
Or Leo Strauss, father of that abomination: modern NeCons.
(And atheist)
(Irving Kristol, "the godfather of neoconservatism")
"Leo Strauss became a significant factor in the culture war," said
Kristol. "And neoconservatives brought Strauss in" to that war.
Kristol noted that Strauss' contribution was to help neoconservatives
to understand the importance of religion in the political life of a
nation. "Religion was not part of elite culture found at places like
Harvard," said Kristol. "It was not thought appropriate for highly
educated people to learn too much about religion." Straussians, who
were not well regarded in the academy, took religion seriously. "They
played a very important role in the culture war by keeping
neoconservative intellectuals pro-religion," says Kristol. This
pro-religion stance gave neoconservative intellectuals a way to
influence the wider American culture. Liberal and left intellectuals
who disdained religious belief were distrusted by most Americans and
this distrust helped check liberal influence and policies.
However, Kristol pointed out that Straussians were not generally
themselves committed to religion. Kristol added that Americans "don't
bother with theology. The fact is that the moral dimension of religion
is what counts for Americans."
http://www.reason.com/news/show/34900.html
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> > - Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.- Hide quoted text -
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And Bishop Bozo and Monsignor Bonzo.
Papal dispensation?
Isn't that the machine in the Vatican that dispenses condoms?
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So that's were the one that shoulda gone to Africa went!
PDW
PDW, who has no idea how to reply to that.. But, like an idiot,
replies anyway..
DOH!
PDW
Ok.. Looked it up on Wikipedia..
"Curly Joe" DeRita- July 12, 1909- July 3, 1993.
Joe Besser August 12 1907- March 1, 1988.
So their all dead now.
Even "almost stooge" Emil Sitka, who replaced Larry in 1975, died
January 16, 1998.
PDW, who is a bit depressed now..
Can't have the choir-boys contracting HIV or syphillus from the
'loving' priesthood.
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Yeah, with pre-punched holes.
Ben
And keys to the altar boys rooms.
The head Rat.
Apparently the Pope when it suits him can suspend the rules of his
church, even if he instituted them himself. Sort of like 'executive
privilege'.
Oh, dear.. Another keyboard..
PDW
PDW, BTW, off from work today..
PDW
Yep. These guys had absolute power over their believers for two thousand
years. Plenty of time to become absolutely corrupted.
> PDW
Yep.
>
> PDW, BTW, off from work today..
Good for you! :-)
Let us not forget Connie Cezan, during the 50's she was practically the 4th
stooge. A lovely, talented actress who had a great sense of humor and even
better comedic timing. She seems to have enjoyed the Stooges physical humor,
she certainly fit right in with them.
(Was also Perry Mason's receptionist during the early 60's.)
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>Diss the pope and you're a terrorist?
>
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>Vatican calls verbal attack on Pope "terrorism"
Of course! It's a sin against the 'humble' poope.
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unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
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