In article <5h2k2d.ih3.1...@news.alt.net>, jdyou...@ymail.com says...
"J", what is it about "Brain Dead" that you don't understand? Or, do you think vegetables should be kept breathing on life support forever and ever? That would fit your twisted "pro-lie" Dogma.
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:24:52 -0500, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <5h2k2d.ih3.1...@news.alt.net>, jdyou...@ymail.com says...
>"J", what is it about "Brain Dead" that you don't understand?
Do you not understand, dirtbag, that she was NOT brain-dead. She, a woman who
lived without life support except for tube feeding, was alive.
> Or, do >you think vegetables should be kept breathing on life support forever >and ever? That would fit your twisted "pro-lie" Dogma.
See, you mistake your ass for your brain as usual. She was NOT on life support
except for tube feeding. She was ALIVE until people like you starved her to
death.
duke, American - American
*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him. *****
>Why don't you confess you wanted to fuck her. She was your perfect woman.
Only a brain-dead woman would have him.
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> See, you mistake your ass for your brain as usual. She was NOT on life support
> except for tube feeding. She was ALIVE until people like you starved her to
> death.
Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
We've got these billboards put up by fundies around where I live. Not many,
but one or two. Something to the effect of "Choose life: from birth to natural
death" or the like. Funny how they don't want to follow the second part;
heroic measures were undertaken to keep poor Terri alive. When it became clear
that there wasn't much functioning brain tissue left to save, they should have
just let her go.
Because "Terri" was already gone.
I find it hilarious that, in my experience, the more religious someone is, the
more heroic the medical proceedures they'll undertake to keep themselves alive.
While, the atheists I've known who've passed away, when it became clear that
the time was nigh, did so with a quiet dignity and grace, and refused any
medical intervention other than painkillers.
You'd think it would be the other way around.
Such a shame she got turned into a political football.
>> See, you mistake your ass for your brain as usual. She was NOT on life
>> support
>> except for tube feeding. She was ALIVE until people like you starved
>> her to
>> death.
> Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
> conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
> >"J", what is it about "Brain Dead" that you don't understand?
> Do you not understand, dirtbag, that she was NOT brain-dead. She, a woman who
> lived without life support except for tube feeding, was alive.
Do you not understand, fuck mouthed liar, that she WAS in fact brain dead, and that the autopsy confirmed it? Now, crawl back into that dark, wet hole you call the Catholic Church and dream up some new disinformation, propaganda and lies.
For now, you stand as living proof that there is no "God". If there was a "God" this would happen to your family and you would be forced to watch as your sick, degenerate religious Doctrine and Dogma crushed your family, and all that you ever worked or lived for, into the dirt!
> > Or, do > >you think vegetables should be kept breathing on life support forever > >and ever? That would fit your twisted "pro-lie" Dogma.
> See, you mistake your ass for your brain as usual. She was NOT on life support
> except for tube feeding. She was ALIVE until people like you starved her to
> death.
She was brain dead, pure and simple. It was proven several times over by her Doctors, and then by the autopsy. Go dream up some new lies and disinformation.
> puke, CatholiKKK Liar.
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of women and men alike!
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs.
Live like pigs, die like rats!
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public expense.
> Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
> out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
> We've got these billboards put up by fundies around where I live. Not many,
> but one or two. Something to the effect of "Choose life: from birth to natural
> death" or the like. Funny how they don't want to follow the second part;
> heroic measures were undertaken to keep poor Terri alive. When it became clear
> that there wasn't much functioning brain tissue left to save, they should have
> just let her go.
> Because "Terri" was already gone.
> I find it hilarious that, in my experience, the more religious someone is, the
> more heroic the medical proceedures they'll undertake to keep themselves alive.
> While, the atheists I've known who've passed away, when it became clear that
> the time was nigh, did so with a quiet dignity and grace, and refused any
> medical intervention other than painkillers.
> You'd think it would be the other way around.
> Such a shame she got turned into a political football.
Thanks, good points.
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of women and men alike!
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs.
Live like pigs, die like rats!
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public expense.
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:36:51 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 3/31/2012 8:20 AM, duke wrote:
>> See, you mistake your ass for your brain as usual. She was NOT on life support
>> except for tube feeding. She was ALIVE until people like you starved her to
>> death.
>Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
>conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
It's not a matter of "allowing them" to do it. You can't stop them.
At the same time, suicide should never be rewarded by paid medical bills,
insurance payouts, etc, ie, if you take your own life, death benefits are no
longer required.
duke, American - American
*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him. *****
>> >"J", what is it about "Brain Dead" that you don't understand?
>> Do you not understand, dirtbag, that she was NOT brain-dead. She, a woman who
>> lived without life support except for tube feeding, was alive.
>Do you not understand, fuck mouthed liar, that she WAS in fact brain >dead, and that the autopsy confirmed it?
No, it didn't. If she was brain dead and not on artificial life support, she
would have been dead. When they starved her to death, she was still breathing
on her own with a heart beat.
> Now, crawl back into that >dark, wet hole you call the Catholic Church and dream up some new >disinformation, propaganda and lies.
>For now, you stand as living proof that there is no "God". If there was >a "God" this would happen to your family and you would be forced to >watch as your sick, degenerate religious Doctrine and Dogma crushed your >family, and all that you ever worked or lived for, into the dirt!
>> > Or, do >> >you think vegetables should be kept breathing on life support forever >> >and ever? That would fit your twisted "pro-lie" Dogma.
>> See, you mistake your ass for your brain as usual. She was NOT on life support
>> except for tube feeding. She was ALIVE until people like you starved her to
>> death.
>She was brain dead, pure and simple. It was proven several times over >by her Doctors, and then by the autopsy. Go dream up some new lies and >disinformation.
>> puke, CatholiKKK Liar.
>Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of >women and men alike!
>Breed like rabbits, live like pigs.
>Live like pigs, die like rats!
>Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
>complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
>have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
>abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public >expense.
*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him. *****
>Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
>out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
She wasn't brain dead.
>We've got these billboards put up by fundies around where I live. Not many,
>but one or two. Something to the effect of "Choose life: from birth to natural
>death" or the like. Funny how they don't want to follow the second part;
>heroic measures were undertaken to keep poor Terri alive. When it became clear
>that there wasn't much functioning brain tissue left to save, they should have
>just let her go.
>Because "Terri" was already gone.
Almost. It was for sure when they starved her to death.
>I find it hilarious that, in my experience, the more religious someone is, the
>more heroic the medical proceedures they'll undertake to keep themselves alive.
>While, the atheists I've known who've passed away, when it became clear that
>the time was nigh, did so with a quiet dignity and grace, and refused any
>medical intervention other than painkillers.
>You'd think it would be the other way around.
>Such a shame she got turned into a political football.
duke, American - American
*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him. *****
>> Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
>> out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
>> We've got these billboards put up by fundies around where I live. Not many,
>> but one or two. Something to the effect of "Choose life: from birth to natural
>> death" or the like. Funny how they don't want to follow the second part;
>> heroic measures were undertaken to keep poor Terri alive. When it became clear
>> that there wasn't much functioning brain tissue left to save, they should have
>> just let her go.
>> Because "Terri" was already gone.
>> I find it hilarious that, in my experience, the more religious someone is, the
>> more heroic the medical proceedures they'll undertake to keep themselves alive.
>> While, the atheists I've known who've passed away, when it became clear that
>> the time was nigh, did so with a quiet dignity and grace, and refused any
>> medical intervention other than painkillers.
>> You'd think it would be the other way around.
>> Such a shame she got turned into a political football.
>Thanks, good points.
You're a fool.
duke, American - American
*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him. *****
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:36:51 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On 3/31/2012 8:20 AM, duke wrote:
> >> See, you mistake your ass for your brain as usual. She was NOT on life support
> >> except for tube feeding. She was ALIVE until people like you starved her to
> >> death.
> >Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
> >conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
> It's not a matter of "allowing them" to do it. You can't stop them.
> At the same time, suicide should never be rewarded by paid medical bills,
> insurance payouts, etc, ie, if you take your own life, death benefits are no
> longer required.
In other words, if the terminally ill person doesn't suffer enough, you want the family punished as much as possible. Never mind the terminally ill person is now beyond your reach.
> puke, CatholiKKK Sadist.
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of women and men alike!
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs.
Live like pigs, die like rats!
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public expense.
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:36:51 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On 3/31/2012 8:20 AM, duke wrote:
> >> See, you mistake your ass for your brain as usual. She was NOT on life support
> >> except for tube feeding. She was ALIVE until people like you starved her to
> >> death.
> >Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
> >conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
> It's not a matter of "allowing them" to do it. You can't stop them.
> At the same time, suicide should never be rewarded,
> just as God never rewards natural death.
> duke, American - American
> *****
> 1 John 3:4-6
> 4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
> sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
> appeared so that he might take away our sins.
> And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
> him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
> sin has either seen him or known him.
> *****
> >> >"J", what is it about "Brain Dead" that you don't understand?
> >> Do you not understand, dirtbag, that she was NOT brain-dead. She, a woman who
> >> lived without life support except for tube feeding, was alive.
> >Do you not understand, fuck mouthed liar, that she WAS in fact brain > >dead, and that the autopsy confirmed it?
> No, it didn't. If she was brain dead and not on artificial life support, she
> would have been dead. When they starved her to death, she was still breathing
> on her own with a heart beat.
Do you know the difference between the brain _stem_ and the brain itself? She was brain dead! Nothing even remotely capable of thought was left. There was nothing left that could ever recover. Neither you nor the Pope are Doctors! She wasn't "paralyzed", or asleep, she was simply dead! She could never, ever again think, speak, sleep, dream, _nothing_ was left but an absolute vegetable.
The brain can never regrow or heal, you stupid, Catholic con man!
> > Now, crawl back into that > >dark, wet hole you call the Catholic Church and dream up some new > >disinformation, propaganda and lies.
> You disgusting murderer.
> >For now, you stand as living proof that there is no "God". If there was > >a "God" this would happen to your family and you would be forced to > >watch as your sick, degenerate religious Doctrine and Dogma crushed your > >family, and all that you ever worked or lived for, into the dirt!
> >> > Or, do > >> >you think vegetables should be kept breathing on life support forever > >> >and ever? That would fit your twisted "pro-lie" Dogma.
> >> See, you mistake your ass for your brain as usual. She was NOT on life support
> >> except for tube feeding. She was ALIVE until people like you starved her to
> >> death.
> >She was brain dead, pure and simple. It was proven several times over > >by her Doctors, and then by the autopsy. Go dream up some new lies and > >disinformation.
> >> puke, CatholiKKK Liar.
> >Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of > >women and men alike!
> >Breed like rabbits, live like pigs.
> >Live like pigs, die like rats!
> >Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
> >complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
> >have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
> >abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public > >expense.
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs.
Live like pigs, die like rats!
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public expense.
> >> See, you mistake your ass for your brain as usual. She was NOT on life
> >> support
> >> except for tube feeding. She was ALIVE until people like you starved
> >> her to
> >> death.
> > Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
> > conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
> No. Clearly not. One of my few joys is watching other people suffer in agony.
> >Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
> >out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
> She wasn't brain dead.
Yes, she was, "duke", you stupid, little CatholiKKK liar! The autopsy confirmed the judgment of more than a few Doctors!
Crawl back into your dark, wet hiding place you call the Catholic Church and dream up new lies and disinformation to destroy the lives and futures of strangers. It's what you and your "Church" do, "duke".
> >We've got these billboards put up by fundies around where I live. Not many,
> >but one or two. Something to the effect of "Choose life: from birth to natural
> >death" or the like. Funny how they don't want to follow the second part;
> >heroic measures were undertaken to keep poor Terri alive. When it became clear
> >that there wasn't much functioning brain tissue left to save, they should have
> >just let her go.
> >Because "Terri" was already gone.
> Almost. It was for sure when they starved her to death.
No, she was dead, "duke", no matter how many lies you dream up, she was dead.
> >I find it hilarious that, in my experience, the more religious someone is, the
> >more heroic the medical proceedures they'll undertake to keep themselves alive.
> >While, the atheists I've known who've passed away, when it became clear that
> >the time was nigh, did so with a quiet dignity and grace, and refused any
> >medical intervention other than painkillers.
> >You'd think it would be the other way around.
> >Such a shame she got turned into a political football.
> puke, CatholiKKK Sadist - Con man.
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of women and men alike!
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs.
Live like pigs, die like rats!
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public expense.
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:27:04 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 4/1/2012 9:44 AM, duke wrote:
>>> Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal
>>> conditions should be allowed to end their own lives?
>> It's not a matter of "allowing them" to do it. You can't stop them.
>So then you agree that suicide is not a sin in all cases?
That's not what I said.
duke, American - American
*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him. *****
>> >> >"J", what is it about "Brain Dead" that you don't understand?
>> >> Do you not understand, dirtbag, that she was NOT brain-dead. She, a woman who
>> >> lived without life support except for tube feeding, was alive.
>> >Do you not understand, fuck mouthed liar, that she WAS in fact brain >> >dead, and that the autopsy confirmed it?
>> No, it didn't. If she was brain dead and not on artificial life support, she
>> would have been dead. When they starved her to death, she was still breathing
>> on her own with a heart beat.
>Do you know the difference between the brain _stem_ and the brain >itself?
The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
> She was brain dead! Nothing even remotely capable of thought >was left.
But she was alive, alive I tell you, with a functioning heart and respiration.
> There was nothing left that could ever recover.
100% of all people die. Life is an unrecoverable terminal condition.
> Neither you >nor the Pope are Doctors! She wasn't "paralyzed", or asleep, she was >simply dead!
No, she wasn't, shit for brains. If she was dead, there was no reason to starve
her to death.
You disgusting murderer.
duke, American - American
*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him. *****
> >> >> >"J", what is it about "Brain Dead" that you don't understand?
> >> >> Do you not understand, dirtbag, that she was NOT brain-dead. She, a woman who
> >> >> lived without life support except for tube feeding, was alive.
> >> >Do you not understand, fuck mouthed liar, that she WAS in fact brain > >> >dead, and that the autopsy confirmed it?
> >> No, it didn't. If she was brain dead and not on artificial life support, she
> >> would have been dead. When they starved her to death, she was still breathing
> >> on her own with a heart beat.
> >Do you know the difference between the brain _stem_ and the brain > >itself?
> The brain stem is still able to provide life functions to the body.
So what? Are you that truly stupid and uneducated??? Do you actually think you can recover from brain death?????? She was dead and you know she was dead.
> > She was brain dead! Nothing even remotely capable of thought > >was left.
> But she was alive, alive I tell you, with a functioning heart and respiration.
SO WHAT??? You stupid, ignorant, Catholic fool!!!!! Do you _actually_ think that constitutes being alive???? What kind of a sick, degenerate church would have that sort of doctrine?????
> > There was nothing left that could ever recover.
> 100% of all people die. Life is an unrecoverable terminal condition.
And she was, in fact, dead!!!
> > Neither you > >nor the Pope are Doctors! She wasn't "paralyzed", or asleep, she was > >simply dead!
> No, she wasn't, shit for brains. If she was dead, there was no reason to starve
> her to death.
It was time to let the rest of her remains follow her brain death. Is this what you want to do to hundreds of Americans every year? Drain them of every last cent, then drain the public of money needed for people that can be helped? Is your degenerate "church" going to pay the bill. I can see it now, row after row of brain dead people being kept alive at public expense and the insistence of the sick Catholic Church while thousands suffer for lack of health care.
> You disgusting murderer.
You filthy little Catholic Sadist! You enjoy the suffering you cause, don't you! Don't deny what we both know. Brain death is death. And you don't care one bit. You just want to impose your ugly, filthy Dogma on innocent bystanders, don't you! Take your pro-liar ass, your Sadistic Church and stick them back in the shit hole you got them out of!!!! You're a monster, "duke", pure and simple, a sadistic, Catholic monster.
> puke, CatholiKKK Sadist - Monster!!!
P.S. Please keep harping on this, "duke". I want as many people as possible (as few people as there are on the Usenet these days) to see what you stand for. I want people to realize what the "Church" would do to them if it had its way, the kind of suffering it would impose on everyone. Please keep explaining exactly, in no uncertain terms, you full well knew there was no recovery, nothing left except the stem of the brain, that you know she was gone. I want everyone to picture themselves if something like this ever happened in their family, and "duke" and his "Church" stuck their noses in at the worst moment of their lives.
P.P.S. Oh, and keep explaining why you and your "Church" oppose stem cell research, the one thing that might lead to healing nerve tissue damage. The Usenet public needs to be reminded of that too.
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of women and men alike!
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs.
Live like pigs, die like rats!
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public expense.
>>Man, if I end up brain-dead, I sure as heck hope the cleaners accidently pull
>>out the plug while vacuuming a lot sooner than what happened with Terri.
> She wasn't brain dead.
Sure she was; there was no higher brain function. The only thing keeping her
alive was our evolutionary "reptile brain" which handles things like breathing
and heartbeat. But "Terri", all her memories, personality, feelings, wants,
hopes, fears, dreams, passions, all that stuff that sits in the higher brain,
all that was gone. Atrophied and replaced with water.
>>We've got these billboards put up by fundies around where I live. Not many,
>>but one or two. Something to the effect of "Choose life: from birth to natural
>>death" or the like. Funny how they don't want to follow the second part;
>>heroic measures were undertaken to keep poor Terri alive. When it became clear
>>that there wasn't much functioning brain tissue left to save, they should have
>>just let her go.
>>Because "Terri" was already gone.
> Almost. It was for sure when they starved her to death.
She couldn't eat on her own. Couldn't chew or swallow; those are natural
functions. If we hadn't had tube feeding, she wouldn't have been alive for as
long as she was. That's "natural death", right? She was unnaturally being
kept alive.
>>I find it hilarious that, in my experience, the more religious someone is, the
>>more heroic the medical proceedures they'll undertake to keep themselves alive.
>>While, the atheists I've known who've passed away, when it became clear that
>>the time was nigh, did so with a quiet dignity and grace, and refused any
>>medical intervention other than painkillers.
>>You'd think it would be the other way around.
>>Such a shame she got turned into a political football.
> duke, American - American
> *****
> 1 John 3:4-6
> 4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
> sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
> appeared so that he might take away our sins.
> And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
> him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
> sin has either seen him or known him. > *****
