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Disapproving Creation: Why The Latest Claims Out of ENCODE Need to be Taken With a Pinch of NaCl

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Budikka666

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Sep 9, 2012, 9:09:02 PM9/9/12
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http://www.genomicron.evolverzone.com/2012/09/a-slightly-different-response-to-todays-encode-hype/

Creationists need to be quiet about this right now because those who
are not quiet are going to be severely embarrassed when the dust
settles. Not that they've ever let that stop them shooting off their
ignrorant mouths in the past....

Budikka

Andrew

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"Budikka666" wrote in message news:86c053ce-cbde-461a...@f6g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
"the ENCODE project has demonstrated that 80% of the DNA
in our genome has a biological function. This runs counter to
traditional views of the genome, the story goes, because most
of the genome had been dismissed as useless junk."

Folks, the DNA in the genome of all living things contains code
for all specific biological structures and functions. The question
therefore now is, WHO is the Code Writer!?! Think about it!

> Budikka

And thanks to Budikka for another post supporting the truth of

Creation!


Free Lunch

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Sep 10, 2012, 7:11:25 PM9/10/12
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:35:29 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:

>"Budikka666" wrote in message news:86c053ce-cbde-461a...@f6g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
>> http://www.genomicron.evolverzone.com/2012/09/a-slightly-different-response-to-todays-encode-hype/
>>
>> Creationists need to be quiet about this right now because those who
>> are not quiet are going to be severely embarrassed when the dust
>> settles. Not that they've ever let that stop them shooting off their
>> ignrorant mouths in the past....
>
>"the ENCODE project has demonstrated that 80% of the DNA
> in our genome has a biological function. This runs counter to
> traditional views of the genome, the story goes, because most
> of the genome had been dismissed as useless junk."

The writer of that story mangled it a bit. There are many items that
could be used, but are not or have become broken. The ENCODE results are
not what you think they are.

>Folks, the DNA in the genome of all living things contains code
>for all specific biological structures and functions. The question
>therefore now is, WHO is the Code Writer!?! Think about it!
>
>> Budikka
>
>And thanks to Budikka for another post supporting the truth of
>
> Creation!
>

Andrew worships ignorance and lies.

Budikka666

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Sep 10, 2012, 7:41:50 PM9/10/12
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On Sep 10, 5:33 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:86c053ce-cbde-461a...@f6g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> >http://www.genomicron.evolverzone.com/2012/09/a-slightly-different-re...
>
> > Creationists need to be quiet about this right now because those who
> > are not quiet are going to be severely embarrassed when the dust
> > settles.  Not that they've ever let that stop them shooting off their
> > ignrorant mouths in the past....
>
> "the ENCODE project has demonstrated that 80% of the DNA
>  in our genome has a biological function. This runs counter to
>  traditional views of the genome, the story goes, because most
>  of the genome had been dismissed as useless junk."

Why don't you and I formally debate what ENCODE has shown, right here
in this thread. Each of us will be required to cite primary science
sources for our claims.

Or will you make this the FiFTH SIMULTANEOUS DEBATE challenge which
I've issued to you and from which you are running like diarrhea,
thereby openly admitting that your god is worthless and you have ZERO
faith in his helping you to defeat me?

Budikka

Ralph

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Sep 10, 2012, 8:26:19 PM9/10/12
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Better yet, who created the code writer??? Think about it, an infinite
regression of gods.

Andrew

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Sep 10, 2012, 10:40:33 PM9/10/12
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"Budikka666" wrote in message news:279ff4ab-5ea2-427e...@u15g2000yql.googlegroups.com...
> "Andrew" wrote:
>> "Budikka666" wrote:
>> >http://www.genomicron.evolverzone.com/2012/09/a-slightly-different-re...
>>
>> > Creationists need to be quiet about this right now because those who
>> > are not quiet are going to be severely embarrassed when the dust
>> > settles. Not that they've ever let that stop them shooting off their
>> > ignrorant mouths in the past....
>>
>> "the ENCODE project has demonstrated that 80% of the DNA
>> in our genome has a biological function. This runs counter to
>> traditional views of the genome, the story goes, because most
>> of the genome had been dismissed as useless junk."
>
> Why don't you and I formally debate what ENCODE has shown, right here
> in this thread. Each of us will be required to cite primary science
> sources for our claims.

Do we agree on what code and encode means?

encode - to put into code

code - a system used for brevity or secrecy of communication, in which
arbitrarily chosen words, letters, or symbols are assigned definite
meanings. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/code

- a rule of communication between an encoder and a decoder using
agreed upon symbols to convert data or information into a form
meaningful and useful for the purposes of those who wrote the code.

Such a *code* IS found in DNA and is constantly being employed in the
process of protein synthesis, without which there would be no life on our
little planet. It was obviously written by some super Intelligent Agency.


Devils Advocaat

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Sep 11, 2012, 1:12:26 AM9/11/12
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On Sep 11, 3:39 am, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:279ff4ab-5ea2-427e...@u15g2000yql.googlegroups.com...
Poor Andrew, the word ENCODE in this context is in fact an acronym,
taken from the phrase "the encyclopedia of DNA elements". Being the
ENC of "encyclopedia", the O of "of", the D of "DNA" and the E of
"elements". Well done for shooting yourself in the foot with your own
ignorance.

Jeanne Douglas

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Sep 11, 2012, 3:10:49 AM9/11/12
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In article
<714419aa-35e7-42fc...@gq8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
<giggle>

--
JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

Andrew

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"Jeanne Douglas" wrote in message news:hlwdjsd2-79C8E1...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu...
> > Devils Advocaat wrote:
>> "Andrew" wrote:
The purpose of the ENCODE project is to identify all functional elements in
the human genome sequence. This has everything to do with code, coding and
thus also encode. The definitions thereof are therefore most relevant, but not
welcome to the godless and the ungodly, since this points to the existence of
the code Writer whom they do despise and refuse to acknowledge in spite of
abundant evidence to the contrary.


Andrew


Devils Advocaat

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Sep 11, 2012, 6:13:02 AM9/11/12
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On 11 Sep, 09:00, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Jeanne Douglas"  wrote in messagenews:hlwdjsd2-79C8E1...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu...
> > > Devils Advocaat wrote:
> >>  "Andrew" wrote:
> >> > "Budikka666" wrote:
> >> > > "Andrew" wrote:
> >> > >> "Budikka666" wrote:
> >> > >> >http://www.genomicron.evolverzone.com/2012/09/a-slightly-different-re...
>
> >> > >> > Creationists need to be quiet about this right now because those who
> >> > >> > are not quiet are going to be severely embarrassed when the dust
> >> > >> > settles. Not that they've ever let that stop them shooting off their
> >> > >> > ignrorant mouths in the past....
>
> >> > >> "the ENCODE project has demonstrated that 80% of the DNA
> >> > >> in our genome has a biological function. This runs counter to
> >> > >> traditional views of the genome, the story goes, because most
> >> > >> of the genome had been dismissed as useless junk."
>
> >> > > Why don't you and I formally debate what ENCODE has shown, right here
> >> > > in this thread. Each of us will be required to cite primary science
> >> > > sources for our claims.
>
> >> > Do we agree on what code and encode means?
>
> >> > encode - to put into code
>
> >> > code - a system used for brevity or secrecy of communication, in which
> >> > arbitrarily chosen words, letters, or symbols are assigned
> >> > definite
> >> > meanings.http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/code
>
> >> > - a rule of communication between an encoder and a decoder using
> >> > agreed upon symbols to convert data or information into a form
> >> > meaningful and useful for the purposes of those who wrote the
> >> > code.
>
> >> > Such a *code* IS found in DNA and is constantly being employed in the
> >> > process of protein synthesis, without which there would be no life on our
> >> > little planet. It was obviously written by some super Intelligent Agency.
>
> >> Poor Andrew, the word ENCODE in this context is in fact an acronym,
> >> taken from the phrase "the encyclopedia of DNA elements". Being the
> >> ENC of "encyclopedia", the O of "of", the D of "DNA" and the E of "elements".
>
> The purpose of the ENCODE project is to identify all functional elements in
> the human genome sequence.

No one is denying this.

> This has everything to do with code, coding and
> thus also encode.

No, it has everything to do with DNA.

> The definitions thereof are therefore most relevant,

No, Andrew they are only relevant in propping up your lies.

> but not
> welcome to the godless and the ungodly, since this points to the existence of
> the code Writer whom they do despise and refuse to acknowledge in spite of
> abundant evidence to the contrary.

The ENCODE Project doesn't support your position.

You would know this even if you read a single research paper published
by the hard-working scientists on this project.
>
> Andrew

Poor Andrew is angry.

So angry he's actually responded to my input.

This despite the fact he supposedly kill filed me.

The Magpie

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Sep 11, 2012, 11:25:58 AM9/11/12
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Andrew, the ENCODE project estimated that *UP_TO* 80% of the DNA for
which there was no known function (the "junk DNA") *MAY_BE* used for
gene activation, deactivation or even condition monitoring.

Note that this does not increase the number of genes by a single
iota, nor does it counter the *ALREADY_KNOWN* fact that the "junk
DNA" is primarily repeated sections, transpositions and reversals of
other "junk DNA" found. All it means is it *MIGHT* have been
co-opted for developmental use during birth development.
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The Magpie

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Sep 11, 2012, 11:27:40 AM9/11/12
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On 11/09/2012 03:40, Andrew wrote:
>
> Do we agree on what code and encode means?
>
No.
>
> encode - to put into code
>
No.
>
> code - a system used for brevity or secrecy of communication, in
> which arbitrarily chosen words, letters, or symbols are assigned
> definite meanings. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/code
>
No.
>
> - a rule of communication between an encoder and a decoder using
> agreed upon symbols to convert data or information into a form
> meaningful and useful for the purposes of those who wrote the
> code.
>
No.
>
> Such a *code* IS found in DNA and is constantly being employed in
> the process of protein synthesis, without which there would be no
> life on our little planet. It was obviously written by some super
> Intelligent Agency.
>
And finally, no.

Another epic fail Andrew.


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The Magpie

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On 11/09/2012 09:01, Andrew wrote:
>
> The purpose of the ENCODE project is to identify all functional
> elements in the human genome sequence.
>
No it isn't. It is to look *BEYOND* the genome to the "junk" DNA.
>
> This has everything to do with code, coding and thus also
> encode.
>
No, no and no it doesn't.
>
> The definitions thereof are therefore most relevant,
>
But yours are *all* wrong.
>
> but not welcome to the godless and the ungodly, since this points
> to the existence of the code Writer
>
No it doesn't. You just try to redefine it so it might.
>
> whom they do despise and refuse to acknowledge in spite of
> abundant evidence to the contrary.
>
No again.

Yet another epic fail Andrew.
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Budikka666

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On Sep 11, 3:00 am, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> The purpose of the ENCODE project is to identify all functional elements in
> the human genome sequence.

LIE. it was ot identify those portions of the gneome which produce
RNA. It was ***NOT*** to test if that RNA actually does something
after it is produced. Your ignorance has betrayed you yet again, but
even now you have been told that you are a liar, you will still
continue to post this same lie. That's why you are worthless scum.

> This has everything to do with code, coding and

LIE. It has *nothing* to do with coding. it has only to do with
chemistry and in this case with chemistry that is wasted because it
goes nowhere! lol! I'm sorry you are too profoundly stupid and
ignorant to grasp that but your ignorance is not evidence for any god;
it's evidence only for how far you fall short of anything worthwhile.

Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank Ran from five different debate
challenges simultaneously:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/e8da88e0f6b5a76b?hl=en&scoring=d&
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/245ef4c4f9f8933b?scoring=d&
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/ec1a84272b3493f1?scoring=d&
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/db798efe8d1d0c97?scoring=d&
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/fb6771658c489b66?scoring=d&

Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank Ran from a simple question in SIX
THREADS simultaneously:
http://tinyurl.com/7zghp7o
http://tinyurl.com/76a8chm
http://tinyurl.com/6q3q498
http://tinyurl.com/6n2swsr
http://tinyurl.com/7rvtlyu
http://tinyurl.com/7x4m3fv

Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank Ran from a debate on DNA in TEN
THREADS simultaneously:
http://tinyurl.com/7zcuwsb
http://tinyurl.com/7t47anq
http://tinyurl.com/7wvegqc
http://tinyurl.com/6rg67wc
http://tinyurl.com/8yqo8fw
http://tinyurl.com/77bopo8
http://tinyurl.com/86zwhj6
http://tinyurl.com/7zlzxtd
http://tinyurl.com/7eknx73
http://tinyurl.com/6lgcwpq

Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank denies Christ thrice:
http://tinyurl.com/7x9c5wn
http://tinyurl.com/74h455e
http://tinyurl.com/7kl4hc7

Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank ran from debate:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/7dd8ed410470f4c2?hl=en
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/e8da88e0f6b5a76b?hl=en&scoring=d&
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/245ef4c4f9f8933b?scoring=d&

Budikka

Budikka666

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Budikka666

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Given the chance to formally debate ENCODE's latest data, Creationist
Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank openly admitted that he could not
support his LIES by turning tail and running like the rank coward that
he is, thereby proving that he has ZERO FAITH in his worthless and
fictitious god. If there were an omnipotent creator god, and this
loser actually *had* any faith, he would have trusted that god to
support him and he would have taken me up on my debate offer.

So now you know the truth about Andrew-a-Blank - even *he* does not
truly believe in this god he espouses!

End of story.

Budikka

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Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank Ran from challenges in SIX THREADS
simultaneously:
http://tinyurl.com/8cpp6ru
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/e8da88e...
Given the chance to stand up for his god and formally debate the
authenticity of the "Shroud of Turin", Creationist Coward-For-Christ™
Andrew-a-Blank openly admitted that he could not support his LIES by
turning tail and running like the rank coward that he is, thereby
proving that he has ZERO FAITH in his worthless and fictitious god.
If there were an omnipotent creator god, and this loser actually *had*
any faith, he would have trusted that god to support him and he would
have taken me up on my debate offer.

http://tinyurl.com/9rm86aj
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/245ef4c4...
Given the chance to stand up for his god and formally debate the
existence of Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god, Creationist
Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank openly admitted that he could not
support his LIES by turning
tail and running like the rank coward that he is, thereby proving that
he has ZERO FAITH in his worthless and fictitious god. If there were
an omnipotent creator god, and this loser actually *had* any faith, he
would have trusted that god to support him and he would have taken me
up on my debate offer.

http://tinyurl.com/8o3wsmg
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/ec1a8427...
Given the chance to stand up for his god and formally debate the
Noahic flood, Creationist Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank openly
admitted that he could not support his LIES by turning tail and
running like the rank coward that he is, thereby proving that he has
ZERO FAITH in his worthless and fictitious god. If there were an
omnipotent creator god, and this loser actually *had* any faith, he
would have trusted that god to support him and he would have taken me
up on my debate offer.

http://tinyurl.com/9hpgy2v
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/db798efe...
Given the chance to stand up for his god and present scientific
evidence in support of many wild claims he had made, Creationist
Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank openly admitted that he could not
support his LIES by turning tail and running like the rank coward that
he is, thereby proving that he has ZERO FAITH in his worthless and
fictitious god. If there were an omnipotent creator god, and this
loser actually *had* any faith, he would have trusted that god to
support him and he would have taken me up on my debate offer.

http://tinyurl.com/986crjk
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/fb677165...
Given the chance to stand up for his god and formally debate ENCODE's
latest data, Creationist Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank openly
admitted that he could not support his LIES by turning tail and
running like the rank coward that he is, thereby proving that he has
ZERO FAITH in his worthless and fictitious god. If there were an
omnipotent creator god, and this loser actually *had* any faith, he
would have trusted that god to support him and he would have taken me
up on my debate offer.

http://tinyurl.com/ckeaadm
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/c786b453...
Given the chance to stand up for his god and formally debate his 8
unsupported claims about information, Creationist Coward-For-Christ™
Andrew-a-Blank openly admitted that he could not support his LIES by
turning tail and running like the rank coward that he is, thereby
proving that he has ZERO FAITH in his worthless and fictitious god.
If there were an omnipotent creator god, and this loser actually *had*
any faith, he would have trusted that god to support him and he would
have taken me up on my debate offer.
So now you know the truth about Andrew-a-Blank - even *he* does not
truly believe in this god he espouses!
End of story.

Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank Ran from a simple question in
*another* SIX THREADS simultaneously:
Coward-For-Christ™ Andrew-a-Blank Ran from a debate on DNA in *yet
another* TEN THREADS simultaneously:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/e8da88e...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/245ef4c4...

End of story.

End of Andrew-a-Blank's pathetic little fake god.

Budikka
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