Atheists Err When Asking for Material Evidence to Prove God's Existence

Calvin Ramsey

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Nov 21, 2012, 9:05:09 PM11/21/12

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Atheists often ask for evidence to prove that God exists. They say they
want tangible, testable evidence that can be verified via the scientific
method. Unfortunately for them, such a request is the wrong approach.
Instead, they should look for evidence consistent with a Transcendent
God.

For those of you with an interest in learning about Augustinianism
and Predestination as well as other fascinating topics, you will find
lots of articles to read or listen to on your mp3 player, while at home
or at work, from these websites:

*See especially* : http://www.the-highway.com/Calvinism_Meeter.html

http://monergism.com/

http://monergism.com/mp3/

http://monergism.com/thethreshold/articles/onsite/whatismonergism2.html

http://calvinistcorner.com/predestination.htm

http://ccel.org/

http://reformed.org/calvinism/

http://reformedreader.org/

http://carm.org/predestination-and-election

http://the-highway.com/predestination_index.html

http://albatrus.org/english/theology/predestination/verses_concerning_predestination.htm

http://nicenecouncil.com/media/

http://the-highway.com/calvinism.html

http://evolutionfacts.blogspot.com/

http://scienceagainstevolution.org/

http://leaderu.com/offices/billcraig/

http://wordofhisgrace.org/science.html

http://godandscience.org/

http://www.evidenceforchristianity.org/

http://www.whitehorseinn.org/

http://spurgeon.org/~phil/hall.htm

http://homepage.mac.com/shanerosenthal/reformationink/classic.htm

http://wabashcenter.wabash.edu/resources/result_browse.aspx?topic=675&pid=650

http://puritansermons.com/toc.htm

http://grmi.org/renewal/Richard_Riss/evidences/

Jesus

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Nov 22, 2012, 12:07:14 AM11/22/12

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On 11/21/2012 09:05 PM, Calvin Ramsey wrote:
> Atheists often ask for evidence to prove that God exists. They say they
> want tangible, testable evidence that can be verified via the scientific
> method. Unfortunately for them, such a request is the wrong approach.
> Instead, they should look for evidence consistent with a Transcendent
> God.
>

This is, of course, true. As scientists atheists insist on proving My
existence by selecting criteria that can only verify things that a
layman would understand. They insist on trying to model me underneath a
microscope when I encompass the entirety of existence in my thought
alone. As I said when I walked as a man, until I physically return, no
sign shall be given them but the sign of Jonah.

Budikka666

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Nov 22, 2012, 7:01:17 AM11/22/12

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On Nov 21, 8:05 pm, Calvin Ramsey <calvinram...@live.com> wrote:
> Atheists often ask for evidence to prove that God exists. They say they
> want tangible, testable evidence that can be verified via the scientific
> method. Unfortunately for them, such a request is the wrong approach.
> Instead, they should look for evidence consistent with a Transcendent
> God.
>
> For those of you with an interest in learning about Augustinianism
> and Predestination as well as other fascinating topics, you will find
> lots of articles to read or listen to on your mp3 player, while at home
> or at work, from these websites:
>
> *See especially* : http://www.the-highway.com/Calvinism_Meeter.html
>
> http://monergism.com/
>
> http://monergism.com/mp3/
>
> http://monergism.com/thethreshold/articles/onsite/whatismonergism2.html
>
> http://calvinistcorner.com/predestination.htm
>
> http://ccel.org/
>
> http://reformed.org/calvinism/
>
> http://reformedreader.org/
>
> http://carm.org/predestination-and-election
>
> http://the-highway.com/predestination_index.html
>

> http://albatrus.org/english/theology/predestination/verses_concerning...

>
> http://nicenecouncil.com/media/
>
> http://the-highway.com/calvinism.html
>
> http://evolutionfacts.blogspot.com/
>
> http://scienceagainstevolution.org/
>
> http://leaderu.com/offices/billcraig/
>
> http://wordofhisgrace.org/science.html
>
> http://godandscience.org/
>
> http://www.evidenceforchristianity.org/
>
> http://www.whitehorseinn.org/
>
> http://spurgeon.org/~phil/hall.htm
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/shanerosenthal/reformationink/classic.htm
>

> http://wabashcenter.wabash.edu/resources/result_browse.aspx?topic=675...
>
> http://puritansermons.com/toc.htm
>
> http://grmi.org/renewal/Richard_Riss/evidences/

If you think we're going to waste out time on your bullshit, you're
even more deluded than you have so far proven yourself to be.

Why don't ***YOU*** do the work and pick your best five items of
evidence from your list of URLs and let's you and me formally debate
them right here.

Or you can run as you always do, denying Christ in the process:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/e789f4adad4e8fad?scoring=d&
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/5ddc9354493b62b3?scoring=d&
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/5cfb83a18dbc7442?scoring=d&
and thereby once again admit that you yourself have ZERO faith in this
supposedly omnipotent god you invented.

Your choice.

Budikka

Don Martin

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Nov 22, 2012, 8:55:37 AM11/22/12

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Scientists do not "prove," idiot. "Proof" is a term bandied about by
theists attempting to erect a defensive wall around their imaginary
superfriend.

Scientists demonstrate stuff. They find evidence in support of, or
contrary to, their hypotheses. If the evidence runs contrary, they
change the hypothesis rather than burning the discoverers of that
evidence at the stake.

As a card I received this morning puts it:
"Science
Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."

And speaking of making shit up, what does your religion say about your
prancing about in the guise of The Savior of Mankind?

--

aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
The Squeeky Wheel: http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/

Christopher A. Lee

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Nov 22, 2012, 9:44:34 AM11/22/12

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On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 08:55:37 -0500, Don Martin
<drdon...@comcast.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 00:07:14 -0500, Jesus <Je...@Christ.org> wrote:
>
>>On 11/21/2012 09:05 PM, Calvin Ramsey wrote:
>>> Atheists often ask for evidence to prove that God exists. They say they
>>> want tangible, testable evidence that can be verified via the scientific
>>> method. Unfortunately for them, such a request is the wrong approach.
>>> Instead, they should look for evidence consistent with a Transcendent
>>> God.

The pathological liar knows we only demand evidence to get theists to
put up or shut up.

>>This is, of course, true. As scientists atheists insist on proving My
>>existence by selecting criteria that can only verify things that a
>>layman would understand. They insist on trying to model me underneath a
>>microscope when I encompass the entirety of existence in my thought
>>alone. As I said when I walked as a man, until I physically return, no
>>sign shall be given them but the sign of Jonah.

What makes so many theists so in-your-face, dishonestly stupid?

>Scientists do not "prove," idiot. "Proof" is a term bandied about by
>theists attempting to erect a defensive wall around their imaginary
>superfriend.

If they had the commonsense to keep it where it belongs, and to live
and let live there would be no problem.

But they haven't, and they can't. So there is.

>Scientists demonstrate stuff. They find evidence in support of, or
>contrary to, their hypotheses. If the evidence runs contrary, they
>change the hypothesis rather than burning the discoverers of that
>evidence at the stake.

The stupids (opposite of brights) imagine this is a weakness of
science - in what passels for their minds they believe because of a
revelation that got things 100% right the first time.

>As a card I received this morning puts it:
>"Science
>Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."
>
>And speaking of making shit up, what does your religion say about your
>prancing about in the guise of The Savior of Mankind?

It "thinks" it was being clever.

raven1

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Nov 22, 2012, 11:31:05 AM11/22/12

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On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:05:09 -0500, Calvin Ramsey
<calvin...@live.com> wrote:

>Atheists often ask for evidence to prove that God exists. They say they
>want tangible, testable evidence that can be verified via the scientific
>method. Unfortunately for them, such a request is the wrong approach.
>Instead, they should look for evidence consistent with a Transcendent
>God.

Present it here:

---
raven1
aa # 1096
EAC Vice President (President in charge of vice)
BAAWA Knight

Christopher A. Lee

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Nov 22, 2012, 11:38:47 AM11/22/12

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On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:31:05 -0500, raven1
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:05:09 -0500, Calvin Ramsey
><calvin...@live.com> wrote:
>
>>Atheists often ask for evidence to prove that God exists. They say they
>>want tangible, testable evidence that can be verified via the scientific
>>method. Unfortunately for them, such a request is the wrong approach.
>>Instead, they should look for evidence consistent with a Transcendent
>>God.
>
>Present it here:

The stupids (opposite of brights) don't have the nouse to realise
it's all about "put up or shut up".

But In what passes for their minds, they don't think they have to.

Hence dishonesty so blatant it insults the intelligence, like the
above, so they can carry on wiping their deluded fantasies in our
faces day in and day out.

It's not up to us to do their job for them and look for anything.

Is it any wonder people have such a low opinion of so many theists?

Budikka666

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Nov 23, 2012, 7:01:37 PM11/23/12

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On Nov 21, 8:05 pm, Calvin Ramsey <calvinram...@live.com> wrote:

> Atheists often ask for evidence to prove that God exists. They say they
> want tangible, testable evidence that can be verified via the scientific
> method. Unfortunately for them, such a request is the wrong approach.
> Instead, they should look for evidence consistent with a Transcendent
> God.
>
> For those of you with an interest in learning about Augustinianism
> and Predestination as well as other fascinating topics, you will find
> lots of articles to read or listen to on your mp3 player, while at home
> or at work, from these websites:
>
> *See especially* : http://www.the-highway.com/Calvinism_Meeter.html
>
> http://monergism.com/
>
> http://monergism.com/mp3/
>
> http://monergism.com/thethreshold/articles/onsite/whatismonergism2.html
>
> http://calvinistcorner.com/predestination.htm
>
> http://ccel.org/
>
> http://reformed.org/calvinism/
>
> http://reformedreader.org/
>
> http://carm.org/predestination-and-election
>
> http://the-highway.com/predestination_index.html
>

> http://albatrus.org/english/theology/predestination/verses_concerning...