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Zacharias Mulletstein
Dec 31, 2011, 1:00:55 AM12/31/11
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Consider the challenge withdrawn. You had plenty of time to respond, and
you cowered like the pussy that you are. So go fuck yourself and admit that
you were soundly defeated by Z Mulletstein.
--
I am a Fundamentalist Christian Pentecostal Warrior for the One lamb virgin,
Jesus Christ.
you cowered like the pussy that you are. So go fuck yourself and admit that
you were soundly defeated by Z Mulletstein.
--
I am a Fundamentalist Christian Pentecostal Warrior for the One lamb virgin,
Jesus Christ.
sbalneav
Dec 31, 2011, 1:19:58 AM12/31/11
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On 11-12-31 12:00 AM, Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:
> Consider the challenge withdrawn. You had plenty of time to respond, and
> you cowered like the pussy that you are. So go fuck yourself and admit
> that you were soundly defeated by Z Mulletstein.
What's yer timezone? It's getting kind of late here right now (12:19
> Consider the challenge withdrawn. You had plenty of time to respond, and
> you cowered like the pussy that you are. So go fuck yourself and admit
> that you were soundly defeated by Z Mulletstein.
am), but
I'd be more than happy to debate you tomorrow.
Pick a time.
Loirbaj
Dec 31, 2011, 6:07:29 AM12/31/11
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John Mitchell Raemsch VIRGIL Baker said,
I challenged the old kook Ian Wood aka budikka
to a debate and he refused --said that he would
NOT provide me a CV or basic contact info.
BroilJAB said,
I see, Dr.Muehleteien.
I challenged the old kook Ian Wood aka budikka
to a debate and he refused --said that he would
NOT provide me a CV or basic contact info.
BroilJAB said,
I see, Dr.Muehleteien.
duke
Dec 31, 2011, 9:14:59 AM12/31/11
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:07:29 -0800 (PST), Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com>
wrote:
>John Mitchell Raemsch VIRGIL Baker said,
>I challenged the old kook Ian Wood aka budikka
>to a debate and he refused --said that he would
>NOT provide me a CV or basic contact info.
Don't worry about it. Bud da dud de caca will NEVER respond. She's best left
to dissolve into the ether.
The dukester, American-American
*****
Romans 1:16-17
It is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes:
for Jew first, then Greek. For in it is revealed the righteousness
of God from faith to faith; as it is written, "The one who is
righteous by faith will live."
*****
wrote:
>John Mitchell Raemsch VIRGIL Baker said,
>I challenged the old kook Ian Wood aka budikka
>to a debate and he refused --said that he would
>NOT provide me a CV or basic contact info.
to dissolve into the ether.
The dukester, American-American
*****
Romans 1:16-17
It is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes:
for Jew first, then Greek. For in it is revealed the righteousness
of God from faith to faith; as it is written, "The one who is
righteous by faith will live."
*****
Budikka666
Dec 31, 2011, 11:06:40 AM12/31/11
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On Dec 31, 12:00 am, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
challenged us, it's hardly surprising we didn't respond. It's
impossible to respond to something of which one is completely unaware.
But there never was a challenge, was there, Mulebrain? You never
issued a challenge.
Keep running, chickenshit.
Budikka
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> Consider the challenge withdrawn. You had plenty of time to respond, and
> you cowered like the pussy that you are. So go fuck yourself and admit that
> you were soundly defeated by Z Mulletstein.
Given that you were too chicken to actually let us know you'd
> Consider the challenge withdrawn. You had plenty of time to respond, and
> you cowered like the pussy that you are. So go fuck yourself and admit that
> you were soundly defeated by Z Mulletstein.
challenged us, it's hardly surprising we didn't respond. It's
impossible to respond to something of which one is completely unaware.
But there never was a challenge, was there, Mulebrain? You never
issued a challenge.
Keep running, chickenshit.
Budikka
Zacharias Mulletstein
Dec 31, 2011, 1:18:48 PM12/31/11
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"Budikka666" <budi...@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:05d24f5f-efb6-41a4...@p16g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 31, 12:00 am, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>> Consider the challenge withdrawn. You had plenty of time to respond, and
>> you cowered like the pussy that you are. So go fuck yourself and admit
>> that
>> you were soundly defeated by Z Mulletstein.
>
> Given that you were too chicken to actually let us know you'd
> challenged us, it's hardly surprising we didn't respond. It's
> impossible to respond to something of which one is completely unaware.
I did challenge you. See my archives.
> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>> Consider the challenge withdrawn. You had plenty of time to respond, and
>> you cowered like the pussy that you are. So go fuck yourself and admit
>> that
>> you were soundly defeated by Z Mulletstein.
>
> Given that you were too chicken to actually let us know you'd
> challenged us, it's hardly surprising we didn't respond. It's
> impossible to respond to something of which one is completely unaware.
> But there never was a challenge, was there, Mulebrain? You never
> issued a challenge.
sbalneav
Dec 31, 2011, 1:32:13 PM12/31/11
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On 11-12-31 12:18 PM, Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:
>
>
> "Budikka666" <budi...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:05d24f5f-efb6-41a4...@p16g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>> On Dec 31, 12:00 am, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
>> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>>> Consider the challenge withdrawn. You had plenty of time to respond, and
>>> you cowered like the pussy that you are. So go fuck yourself and
>>> admit that
>>> you were soundly defeated by Z Mulletstein.
>>
>> Given that you were too chicken to actually let us know you'd
>> challenged us, it's hardly surprising we didn't respond. It's
>> impossible to respond to something of which one is completely unaware.
>
> I did challenge you. See my archives.
>
>> But there never was a challenge, was there, Mulebrain? You never
>> issued a challenge.
>
> http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/6295204/i_challenge_no_life_buddikakke_to_a_debate
Daytime here, Zach. Pick a time and a topic, I'll mix it up with you,
>
>
> "Budikka666" <budi...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:05d24f5f-efb6-41a4...@p16g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>> On Dec 31, 12:00 am, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
>> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>>> Consider the challenge withdrawn. You had plenty of time to respond, and
>>> you cowered like the pussy that you are. So go fuck yourself and
>>> admit that
>>> you were soundly defeated by Z Mulletstein.
>>
>> Given that you were too chicken to actually let us know you'd
>> challenged us, it's hardly surprising we didn't respond. It's
>> impossible to respond to something of which one is completely unaware.
>
> I did challenge you. See my archives.
>
>> But there never was a challenge, was there, Mulebrain? You never
>> issued a challenge.
>
> http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/6295204/i_challenge_no_life_buddikakke_to_a_debate
for the amusement of my adoring fans :)
Budikka666
Dec 31, 2011, 2:47:49 PM12/31/11
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On Dec 31, 8:14 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:07:29 -0800 (PST), Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com>
Here's an abridged list of threads in which I have posed serious
questions about his position and from which he has run like diarrhea:
Most recently, there's this one:
Dec 27th, 2011
Challenged to debate his 100% evidence for Jesus, Duck & Run ducked
and ran.
http://tinyurl.com/6m4ub5q
Dec 26th, 2011
Duck & Run claimed he had 100% of the evidence for a god, yet when
*given* *a* *second* *chance* to produce it, he fled the challenge!
http://tinyurl.com/7kawokn
Dec. 24th 2011
Duck & Run claimed he had 100% of the evidence for a god, yet when
challenged to produce it, he fled the challenge!
http://tinyurl.com/6m4ub5q
Sept. 5th 2011
asked for evidence for this Jesus of his. Duck & Run ducked & ran!
http://tinyurl.com/3brposl
On January 22, 2011, under the title: "Chicken Duke Has a Beautifully
Clean Pair of heels Does he Not?" I requested "Please provide
independent evidence - that is, from *outside* the Bible - that there
ever was a Jesus Christ, miracle working son of a god."
Chicken Duke couldn't do it.
http://tinyurl.com/4h6wdzm
Then there was this:
http://tinyurl.com/4dk7aoz
Jan 16, 2011, I requested this of Chicken Duke:
please provide *positive* *scientific* evidence for a creator or for a
creation, and post it right here in response to this message.
This was in response to his assertion that "Existence mandates
creation".
He ran away.
http://tinyurl.com/29hkt7j
December 22nd 2010, in which Chicken Duke was challenged to support
statements he has made repeatedly on Usenet. Once again he ran from
them like the stinking diarrhea he is and hid behind an irrelevant and
dishoenst non-sequitur.
Prior to that he ran from a similar challenge just the day before(!):
He ran from a challenge to support his bullshit on December 21st,
2010:
http://tinyurl.com/29hkt7j
And just the month before that:
http://tinyurl.com/2d5xtf3
November 20th 2010, he ran form these five simple questions rather
than support his god, thereby proving that he's nothing but another
limp Peter at the passion!
Here are the questions:
1. That the figure you quoted is true.
2. That they all believe in the *same* deity.
3. That this single deity actually exists
4. That this single deity actually created the universe
5. That this single deity is not a figment of their imagination
Here's my prediction at the time:
Time to show us that clean pair of heels again, Chicken Duck & Run.
Yep - he ran!
Claimed there are "gargantuan holes" in the Theory of Evolution and
then RAN when I called him on it:
http://tinyurl.com/27kf2da
The entire "Why There Isn't a God" series, started here:
http://tinyurl.com/6b9et
Duck & Run Ran Away - that is to say he failed 100% to actually get to
grips with the subject matter in any of those threads, his 'response'
consisting solely of chanting "no it isn't" or words to that effect.
He could offer no rebuttal, let alone refutation, he could not support
a single thing he claimed and he could offer zero rationale for his
position.
Let's face it, on this basis, he's run away from the entire "Why the
Holy Bible Lies" series, the entire "Why There Was No Flood" series,
and all of the the "Issues The Anti-Choice Crowd Carefully Avoid"
series so far.
Petition to Save the Hubble Telescope
Duck & Run makes yet another blind claim "it's the same old sky" he
blathers, like there couldn't possibly be anything new to discover,
yet I proved him entirely wrong - again.
http://tinyurl.com/2qmyz
Scientists find new face on back of Turin shroud
http://tinyurl.com/2bx6jcf
Duck & Run, shrouded in cowardice, ran away.
The Inquisition
http://tinyurl.com/4pokf
Duck & Run didn't expect the inquisition....
Another Problem for Creation IDiots
http://tinyurl.com/3px9j
Duck & Run proved to be a creation IDiot.
Human aspect of Jesus
http://tinyurl.com/4w488
Duck and Run has provided us with a de facto admission that there was
no Jesus Christ, miracle-working son-of-a-god.
Jesus's three days sacrifice
http://tinyurl.com/3jhop
Duck & Run sacrificed the truth and got caught.
Which is the real God???
http://tinyurl.com/6bnoo
Duck & Run didn't know.
God isn't very smart about spreading his word, is he?
http://tinyurl.com/7xjux
Neither is Duck & Run.
Why did Mekkla run away from a discussion of Heb 8:7-13?
http://tinyurl.com/4v759
Duck & Run opened this thread to accuse someone else of running away.
As soon as he was challenged, Duck & Run ran away!
Why Didn't Jesus Die Sooner?
http://tinyurl.com/5gevm
Duck & Run's claims died sooner.
Why is Duke Such a Coward?
http://tinyurl.com/5p3qt
Duck & Run ran away, proving what a coward he is.
Duck & Run's five evidences of god
(that he later admitted were not evidences):
http://tinyurl.com/3otzr
Questions that Duke Can't Answer
(in which I accused Duck & Run of running away and from which
he...**RAN AWAY**! The questions remain unanswered. There are only
ten numbered questions in this thread, assembled from previous threads
from which
Duck & Run ran away. Duck & Run lied there were 75 questions
and...ran away!)
http://tinyurl.com/5ozyl
There are now well over one hundred unanswered questions that Duck &
Run has fled. Here's the bulk of them:
http://tinyurl.com/ad89u
http://tinyurl.com/9ky7y
Duck & Run thinks Christianity, which post-dates Mithraism by seven
centuries, gave rise to Mithraism:
http://tinyurl.com/yzp9bk
Duck & Run ran away.
Duke: Global Flood Challenge
A thread which I opened specifically at Duck & Run's request, and from
which he, predictably, ran away. He admitted there is no evidence for
a global flood, I presented abundant evidence that there never was
one,
Duck & Run offered zero rebuttal and ran away as he again did in the
recent flood series.
http://tinyurl.com/4l83y
Evidence that Duke can't refute:
http://tinyurl.com/5l2av
Duck & Run failed to refute the evidence and ran away, thereby proving
my case
An Answer to Pascal's Wager
http://tinyurl.com/4y63n
In which I accuse Duck & Run of running away. He ran away!
Thread: "Why Puke is Such a Pathological, Unregenerate, Cowardly,
Lying, Hypocritical Asshole"
http://tinyurl.com/4ant3
Duck & Run ran away because he's a pathological, unregenerate,
cowardly, lying hypocritical asshole.
Thread: "Duke's Chronic lying"
http://tinyurl.com/3ra8l
Duck & Run ran away.
Thread: "aqotm - bud(ikka) style"
http://tinyurl.com/4r4gz
Duck & Run ran away from his own clueless stupidity
Thread: "Duke: Global Flood Challenge"
http://tinyurl.com/3qd5m
Duck & Run was out of his depth - as he's recently proven again - and
so he...ran away!
Thread: "The Bland Assumption of Jesus' Existence"
http://tinyurl.com/5kj3m
Duck & Run ran away as I blandly assumed he would.
Thread: "Running Scriptural Circles Around Duke"
http://tinyurl.com/3ozwo
Duck & Run ran away after I ran scriptural circles around him
And my favorite:
http://tinyurl.com/487vc
This was a cowardly thread Duck & Run opened titled "Budikka Runs
Away". He set this up because he was peeved that he didn't get an
instant response from me in another thread! He never told me he'd
opened this alternate thread, yet he accused me of running away in
it! LoL! When I finally happened across it and challenged him in it,
he ran away! How pathetic is that?!
And more than once/month for an entire 12 month period starting April
2009:
April 21st, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yzywu7q
July 12th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ybrmfxp
August 16th,2009: http://tinyurl.com/kjjmn4
September 10th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/oasqn8
October 3rd, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ybvtw53
November 9th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yjlmbrf
November 19th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yj64yqj
November 20th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ybrkvyh
November 22nd, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ycw6s8l
November 25th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ygafw5d
November 29th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yakpje3
November 29th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ygafw5d
December 5th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yzt9f4m
December 7th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yllcb6q
December 8th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ybzvv33
December 13th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yakex6v
December 23rd, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/y9k8kpv
January 1st, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ybnesb2
January 24th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ybsqw3l
January 27th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ycgm8u8
January 31st, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ycemfpo
February 3rd, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ybsqw3l
February 15th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/yjjj93v
February 16th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ycemfpo
February 22nd, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ye59brz
March 1st, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ykgtezr
March 6th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/yjhe3fe
March 9th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ybnahkb
March 11th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/yl8hcea
The best comment from him was in alt.atheism on January 5th, 2004, at
5:46 pm when he said, "I've heard myself say a lot of vocal things,
but I've never heard myself think." (http://tinyurl.com/f48bq). This
explains everything, including why he's such a gashole. All he can do
is impotently snipe at people, since he has nothing of value or
intelligence to say and he demonstrably cannot support a single claim
he makes.
He has no proof, no evidence - not even an intelligent argument. He
does not think because he cannot. He's quite loco, and like a loco,
he's stuck on a pair of narrow rails. He has no clue he's on them,
let alone how to get off. And the track to which he's limited leads
to a dead end - which he hilariously thinks is "Heaven"!
The best "evidence" of a god he was ever capable of producing was a
lackluster five items he posted in thread "Scientists find new face on
back of Turin shroud" in a.a. on April 18 2004, 9:52 am:
http://tinyurl.com/c6hkg.
He appears to have appropriated "his" five evidences from Thomas
Aquinas who, c1245, published "Summa theologiae" which contained five
"Ways" to "prove" some god's existence, all of which have been
thoroughly discredited.
He admitted his "own" five ways were nothing but blind belief in alt
atheism in a thread called "The Inquisition" message posted on
Saturday, 12 June, 2004 11:52am:
http://tinyurl.com/bc5ud
but that was all he could do after the massive pounding he got.
I used those same five items in a spoof edition of my "Why There is no
God" series (http://tinyurl.com/bz54w). I changed a word here and
there and all of his five "evidences" miraculously became evidence for
the non-existence of a god! Naturally I didn't count them in the 666
since they were so pathetic.
His comments aren't born of smarts, logic, rational or evidence,
they're born of desperation. Neither are his comments aimed at the
material - they rarely are. He's incapable of having a rational
exchange on a topic. He spits out idiocy and insult and runs away.
His comments are not designed to enlighten, help, or exchange
anything, but to abuse people. He's the very antithesis of this
purported Christian love he's supposed to dispense.
He never documents or supports a single thing he says, whereas the
cowardice and lies of this pathetic hypocrite for Christ have been
fully documented on Usenet. His despicable behavior and his
slanderous unfounded charges (he thinks turning the other cheek means
mooning someone) are why he was mass-plonked by pretty near the entire
regular set on a.a.:
http://tinyurl.com/9gycg
It's a sign of how pathetic he is, how low he's sinking and how
desperate he's become since he was cut off, that he now has to beg for
atheists to talk to him by posting inane rants against us - this from
the guy who claims to be a Christian, who claims to do unto others as
he would be done by, and who lies about turning the other cheek!
His cowardice in "debate" or even discussion is legendary:
1. http://tinyurl.com/ac2vg
2. http://tinyurl.com/4dyok
3. http://tinyurl.com/664yu
4. http://tinyurl.com/apenc
He thinks Christianity, which post-dates Mithraism by seven centuries,
gave rise to Mithraism:
http://tinyurl.com/yzp9bk
He's quite literally astronomically stupid:
http://tinyurl.com/yhyopg
("the same "sky" that's already been looked at."!)
http://tinyurl.com/6fbwqh
He claims he can run rings around anyone on scripture, but when he was
actually taken up directly on this claim:
http://tinyurl.com/3z47u
he ran away!
He has numerous documented lies:
http://tinyurl.com/5zlzx
http://tinyurl.com/ablwm
He regularly demands people open discussions on his god, and when they
do, he runs away. I personally had him run from the *same topic* well
over 100 times in direct response to a challenge *he* made!
He dismally failed the simplest intelligence test imaginable:
http://tinyurl.com/7zm43
He has fifty questions he can't answer or daren't answer honestly
here:
http://tinyurl.com/ad89u (October 22nd 2004)
and fifty more here:
http://tinyurl.com/9ky7y (July 16th 2005)
In short, he's a waste of a human being and not worth any response
other than this.
End of Douche. Case closed.
Budikka
> On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:07:29 -0800 (PST), Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com>
> wrote:
>
> >John Mitchell Raemsch VIRGIL Baker said,
> >I challenged the old kook Ian Wood aka budikka
> >to a debate and he refused --said that he would
> >NOT provide me a CV or basic contact info.
>
> Don't worry about it. Bud da dud de caca will NEVER respond. She's best left
> to dissolve into the ether.
Once again Duck & Run Duke has been proven a liar in the news groups.
>
> >John Mitchell Raemsch VIRGIL Baker said,
> >I challenged the old kook Ian Wood aka budikka
> >to a debate and he refused --said that he would
> >NOT provide me a CV or basic contact info.
>
> Don't worry about it. Bud da dud de caca will NEVER respond. She's best left
> to dissolve into the ether.
Here's an abridged list of threads in which I have posed serious
questions about his position and from which he has run like diarrhea:
Most recently, there's this one:
Dec 27th, 2011
Challenged to debate his 100% evidence for Jesus, Duck & Run ducked
and ran.
http://tinyurl.com/6m4ub5q
Dec 26th, 2011
Duck & Run claimed he had 100% of the evidence for a god, yet when
*given* *a* *second* *chance* to produce it, he fled the challenge!
http://tinyurl.com/7kawokn
Dec. 24th 2011
Duck & Run claimed he had 100% of the evidence for a god, yet when
challenged to produce it, he fled the challenge!
http://tinyurl.com/6m4ub5q
Sept. 5th 2011
asked for evidence for this Jesus of his. Duck & Run ducked & ran!
http://tinyurl.com/3brposl
On January 22, 2011, under the title: "Chicken Duke Has a Beautifully
Clean Pair of heels Does he Not?" I requested "Please provide
independent evidence - that is, from *outside* the Bible - that there
ever was a Jesus Christ, miracle working son of a god."
Chicken Duke couldn't do it.
http://tinyurl.com/4h6wdzm
Then there was this:
http://tinyurl.com/4dk7aoz
Jan 16, 2011, I requested this of Chicken Duke:
please provide *positive* *scientific* evidence for a creator or for a
creation, and post it right here in response to this message.
This was in response to his assertion that "Existence mandates
creation".
He ran away.
http://tinyurl.com/29hkt7j
December 22nd 2010, in which Chicken Duke was challenged to support
statements he has made repeatedly on Usenet. Once again he ran from
them like the stinking diarrhea he is and hid behind an irrelevant and
dishoenst non-sequitur.
Prior to that he ran from a similar challenge just the day before(!):
He ran from a challenge to support his bullshit on December 21st,
2010:
http://tinyurl.com/29hkt7j
And just the month before that:
http://tinyurl.com/2d5xtf3
November 20th 2010, he ran form these five simple questions rather
than support his god, thereby proving that he's nothing but another
limp Peter at the passion!
Here are the questions:
1. That the figure you quoted is true.
2. That they all believe in the *same* deity.
3. That this single deity actually exists
4. That this single deity actually created the universe
5. That this single deity is not a figment of their imagination
Here's my prediction at the time:
Time to show us that clean pair of heels again, Chicken Duck & Run.
Yep - he ran!
Claimed there are "gargantuan holes" in the Theory of Evolution and
then RAN when I called him on it:
http://tinyurl.com/27kf2da
The entire "Why There Isn't a God" series, started here:
http://tinyurl.com/6b9et
Duck & Run Ran Away - that is to say he failed 100% to actually get to
grips with the subject matter in any of those threads, his 'response'
consisting solely of chanting "no it isn't" or words to that effect.
He could offer no rebuttal, let alone refutation, he could not support
a single thing he claimed and he could offer zero rationale for his
position.
Let's face it, on this basis, he's run away from the entire "Why the
Holy Bible Lies" series, the entire "Why There Was No Flood" series,
and all of the the "Issues The Anti-Choice Crowd Carefully Avoid"
series so far.
Petition to Save the Hubble Telescope
Duck & Run makes yet another blind claim "it's the same old sky" he
blathers, like there couldn't possibly be anything new to discover,
yet I proved him entirely wrong - again.
http://tinyurl.com/2qmyz
Scientists find new face on back of Turin shroud
http://tinyurl.com/2bx6jcf
Duck & Run, shrouded in cowardice, ran away.
The Inquisition
http://tinyurl.com/4pokf
Duck & Run didn't expect the inquisition....
Another Problem for Creation IDiots
http://tinyurl.com/3px9j
Duck & Run proved to be a creation IDiot.
Human aspect of Jesus
http://tinyurl.com/4w488
Duck and Run has provided us with a de facto admission that there was
no Jesus Christ, miracle-working son-of-a-god.
Jesus's three days sacrifice
http://tinyurl.com/3jhop
Duck & Run sacrificed the truth and got caught.
Which is the real God???
http://tinyurl.com/6bnoo
Duck & Run didn't know.
God isn't very smart about spreading his word, is he?
http://tinyurl.com/7xjux
Neither is Duck & Run.
Why did Mekkla run away from a discussion of Heb 8:7-13?
http://tinyurl.com/4v759
Duck & Run opened this thread to accuse someone else of running away.
As soon as he was challenged, Duck & Run ran away!
Why Didn't Jesus Die Sooner?
http://tinyurl.com/5gevm
Duck & Run's claims died sooner.
Why is Duke Such a Coward?
http://tinyurl.com/5p3qt
Duck & Run ran away, proving what a coward he is.
Duck & Run's five evidences of god
(that he later admitted were not evidences):
http://tinyurl.com/3otzr
Questions that Duke Can't Answer
(in which I accused Duck & Run of running away and from which
he...**RAN AWAY**! The questions remain unanswered. There are only
ten numbered questions in this thread, assembled from previous threads
from which
Duck & Run ran away. Duck & Run lied there were 75 questions
and...ran away!)
http://tinyurl.com/5ozyl
There are now well over one hundred unanswered questions that Duck &
Run has fled. Here's the bulk of them:
http://tinyurl.com/ad89u
http://tinyurl.com/9ky7y
Duck & Run thinks Christianity, which post-dates Mithraism by seven
centuries, gave rise to Mithraism:
http://tinyurl.com/yzp9bk
Duck & Run ran away.
Duke: Global Flood Challenge
A thread which I opened specifically at Duck & Run's request, and from
which he, predictably, ran away. He admitted there is no evidence for
a global flood, I presented abundant evidence that there never was
one,
Duck & Run offered zero rebuttal and ran away as he again did in the
recent flood series.
http://tinyurl.com/4l83y
Evidence that Duke can't refute:
http://tinyurl.com/5l2av
Duck & Run failed to refute the evidence and ran away, thereby proving
my case
An Answer to Pascal's Wager
http://tinyurl.com/4y63n
In which I accuse Duck & Run of running away. He ran away!
Thread: "Why Puke is Such a Pathological, Unregenerate, Cowardly,
Lying, Hypocritical Asshole"
http://tinyurl.com/4ant3
Duck & Run ran away because he's a pathological, unregenerate,
cowardly, lying hypocritical asshole.
Thread: "Duke's Chronic lying"
http://tinyurl.com/3ra8l
Duck & Run ran away.
Thread: "aqotm - bud(ikka) style"
http://tinyurl.com/4r4gz
Duck & Run ran away from his own clueless stupidity
Thread: "Duke: Global Flood Challenge"
http://tinyurl.com/3qd5m
Duck & Run was out of his depth - as he's recently proven again - and
so he...ran away!
Thread: "The Bland Assumption of Jesus' Existence"
http://tinyurl.com/5kj3m
Duck & Run ran away as I blandly assumed he would.
Thread: "Running Scriptural Circles Around Duke"
http://tinyurl.com/3ozwo
Duck & Run ran away after I ran scriptural circles around him
And my favorite:
http://tinyurl.com/487vc
This was a cowardly thread Duck & Run opened titled "Budikka Runs
Away". He set this up because he was peeved that he didn't get an
instant response from me in another thread! He never told me he'd
opened this alternate thread, yet he accused me of running away in
it! LoL! When I finally happened across it and challenged him in it,
he ran away! How pathetic is that?!
And more than once/month for an entire 12 month period starting April
2009:
April 21st, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yzywu7q
July 12th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ybrmfxp
August 16th,2009: http://tinyurl.com/kjjmn4
September 10th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/oasqn8
October 3rd, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ybvtw53
November 9th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yjlmbrf
November 19th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yj64yqj
November 20th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ybrkvyh
November 22nd, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ycw6s8l
November 25th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ygafw5d
November 29th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yakpje3
November 29th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ygafw5d
December 5th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yzt9f4m
December 7th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yllcb6q
December 8th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ybzvv33
December 13th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yakex6v
December 23rd, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/y9k8kpv
January 1st, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ybnesb2
January 24th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ybsqw3l
January 27th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ycgm8u8
January 31st, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ycemfpo
February 3rd, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ybsqw3l
February 15th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/yjjj93v
February 16th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ycemfpo
February 22nd, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ye59brz
March 1st, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ykgtezr
March 6th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/yjhe3fe
March 9th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ybnahkb
March 11th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/yl8hcea
The best comment from him was in alt.atheism on January 5th, 2004, at
5:46 pm when he said, "I've heard myself say a lot of vocal things,
but I've never heard myself think." (http://tinyurl.com/f48bq). This
explains everything, including why he's such a gashole. All he can do
is impotently snipe at people, since he has nothing of value or
intelligence to say and he demonstrably cannot support a single claim
he makes.
He has no proof, no evidence - not even an intelligent argument. He
does not think because he cannot. He's quite loco, and like a loco,
he's stuck on a pair of narrow rails. He has no clue he's on them,
let alone how to get off. And the track to which he's limited leads
to a dead end - which he hilariously thinks is "Heaven"!
The best "evidence" of a god he was ever capable of producing was a
lackluster five items he posted in thread "Scientists find new face on
back of Turin shroud" in a.a. on April 18 2004, 9:52 am:
http://tinyurl.com/c6hkg.
He appears to have appropriated "his" five evidences from Thomas
Aquinas who, c1245, published "Summa theologiae" which contained five
"Ways" to "prove" some god's existence, all of which have been
thoroughly discredited.
He admitted his "own" five ways were nothing but blind belief in alt
atheism in a thread called "The Inquisition" message posted on
Saturday, 12 June, 2004 11:52am:
http://tinyurl.com/bc5ud
but that was all he could do after the massive pounding he got.
I used those same five items in a spoof edition of my "Why There is no
God" series (http://tinyurl.com/bz54w). I changed a word here and
there and all of his five "evidences" miraculously became evidence for
the non-existence of a god! Naturally I didn't count them in the 666
since they were so pathetic.
His comments aren't born of smarts, logic, rational or evidence,
they're born of desperation. Neither are his comments aimed at the
material - they rarely are. He's incapable of having a rational
exchange on a topic. He spits out idiocy and insult and runs away.
His comments are not designed to enlighten, help, or exchange
anything, but to abuse people. He's the very antithesis of this
purported Christian love he's supposed to dispense.
He never documents or supports a single thing he says, whereas the
cowardice and lies of this pathetic hypocrite for Christ have been
fully documented on Usenet. His despicable behavior and his
slanderous unfounded charges (he thinks turning the other cheek means
mooning someone) are why he was mass-plonked by pretty near the entire
regular set on a.a.:
http://tinyurl.com/9gycg
It's a sign of how pathetic he is, how low he's sinking and how
desperate he's become since he was cut off, that he now has to beg for
atheists to talk to him by posting inane rants against us - this from
the guy who claims to be a Christian, who claims to do unto others as
he would be done by, and who lies about turning the other cheek!
His cowardice in "debate" or even discussion is legendary:
1. http://tinyurl.com/ac2vg
2. http://tinyurl.com/4dyok
3. http://tinyurl.com/664yu
4. http://tinyurl.com/apenc
He thinks Christianity, which post-dates Mithraism by seven centuries,
gave rise to Mithraism:
http://tinyurl.com/yzp9bk
He's quite literally astronomically stupid:
http://tinyurl.com/yhyopg
("the same "sky" that's already been looked at."!)
http://tinyurl.com/6fbwqh
He claims he can run rings around anyone on scripture, but when he was
actually taken up directly on this claim:
http://tinyurl.com/3z47u
he ran away!
He has numerous documented lies:
http://tinyurl.com/5zlzx
http://tinyurl.com/ablwm
He regularly demands people open discussions on his god, and when they
do, he runs away. I personally had him run from the *same topic* well
over 100 times in direct response to a challenge *he* made!
He dismally failed the simplest intelligence test imaginable:
http://tinyurl.com/7zm43
He has fifty questions he can't answer or daren't answer honestly
here:
http://tinyurl.com/ad89u (October 22nd 2004)
and fifty more here:
http://tinyurl.com/9ky7y (July 16th 2005)
In short, he's a waste of a human being and not worth any response
other than this.
End of Douche. Case closed.
Budikka
Budikka666
Dec 31, 2011, 2:48:51 PM12/31/11
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LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #1
When asked what his academic qualifications were to set himself up as
judge and jury of the Theory of Evolution, Fled the Thread, thereby
proving himself a hypocrite.
http://tinyurl.com/3rf72jl
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #2
Challenged on his 'missing links' LIE. Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3um7gc4
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #3
Asked what positive scientific evidence he had which demonstrates that
the entire surface of the Earth was completely under water only about
4,300 years old as the Bible chronology in Luke indicates. Fled the
Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/44c3q94
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #4
Asked if he had any positive scientific evidence which demonstrates
that the Earth and indeed the universe are only about 6,000 years old
as the Bible chronology in Luke indicates. Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3d38lwe
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #5
Asked what professionally published positive scientific evidence there
is for a creator or for a creation. Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3sya4pn
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #6
Asked what independent objective evidence there is for a creator or
for a creation, posted around the same time as the above. Fled the
Thread.
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #7
Asked what intelligent rationale he could offer for a creator or for a
creation, posted around the same time as the above. Fled the Thread.
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #8
LIED that he posted 180 failures of evolution when he posted only a
handful, all of which were easily refuted. Didn't even *pretend* he
could support his claim! Instead, he Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3ueca9g
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #9
LIED that humans and apes do not have a common ancestry and when asked
for evidence and invited to debate it, he Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3doxezm
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #10
Invited to go toe-to-toe on the existence of this god of his. Fled
the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3s6wwaf
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #11
Invited to discuss unsupported claims he made about the coelacanth.
Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/44kxjxf
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #12
Taken to task over LIES about Richard Dawkins. Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3md8lbg
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #13
Called out on his LIE about evolution and invited to discuss it. Fled
the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3q5g5v8
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #14
Called out on his LIE about Jack Kevorkian's whereabouts. Hell? Fled
the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3tw8pja
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #15
Called out on his LIE about convicted criminal Garcia's whereabouts.
Hell? Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/69z2wex
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #16
Called out on his LIE about the Peppered moth, Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3j9cy7b
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #17
Invited to discuss his knowledge of the Bible. Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3pfrg53
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #18
Invited to discuss his LIE about the odds of abiogenesis and
evolution. Fled the thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3v5x4or
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #19
Offered a discussion of his shameful LIE about anti-semitism. Fled
the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3shfato
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #20
LIES about Charles Darwin's purported racism were exposed. Fled the
Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3c8mele
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #21
Invited you to define 'Evolution' so that we could discuss it
intelligently. Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3grr2tm
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #22
Made several statements on the reliability of the Bible and when
challenged to support them Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3vc4v8o
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #23
LIED about what Darwin said about the evolution of the eye and when
taken to task on this, Fled the Thread:
http://tinyurl.com/3mp9fbs
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #24
We set LiarBoi Loirbaj straight on abiogenesis after he accused us of
making the claims that Joseki (whom he's directly and repeatedly
supported) was making, he FLED THE THREAD:
http://tinyurl.com/3mhzezl
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #25
Challenged on his 'billions of fossils' LIE. Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3ce9g8j
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #26
Challenged on Jesus Christ. Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/6kck7b5
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #27
Washed out in the Noahic flood. Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/4xo7k7v
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #28
Challenged on his Rick Perry LIES. Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3w2rkhu
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #29
Big Bang Scares LiarBoi Loirbaj! Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/4xy9hhj
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #30
Liarboi's Junk Shrivels Away! Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3mb6xts
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #31
Selfish Genes are More Generous Than Skinflint LiarBoi! Fled the
Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/4yh4nyh
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #32
Why species 'A' doesn't become extinct automatically after giving rise
to species 'B'. Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3t2l3qf
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #33
The Definition of Speciation. Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3f7m488
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #34
LIED that there was a "mountain of evidence" disproving evolution.
Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3k2jtqg
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #35
Didn't dare set foot in a thread which pointed out what a fraud he was
when he talks about Stephen Jay Gould and the visibility of genes to
evolution
http://tinyurl.com/3k8upef
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #36
Ran from his virus lie.
http://tinyurl.com/3om8ps5
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #37
When his lIE about scientists skeptical of Evolution was exposed,
LiarBoi Loirbaj Fled the Thread!
http://tinyurl.com/3c6kufl
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #38
Radiometric dating. Fled the thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3gwzkhy
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #39
After having been bitten by Darwin's finches, he flew the coop!
http://tinyurl.com/6b7sm9o
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #40
Offered a debate on the evidence for evolution, LiarBoi Loirbaj
prformed the amazing feat of running up the white flag.
http://tinyurl.com/3lgbdo3
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #41
Talk about fruit and watch LiarBoi fly!
http://tinyurl.com/3gvhqq4
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #42
Offered the chance to discuss transitional fossils, LiarBoi Loirbaj
transitioned into a chicken
http://tinyurl.com/3fq8omp
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #43
Asked to support his claim that a god made men and women, Liarboi
Loirbaj Ran Away!
http://tinyurl.com/43m6exa
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #44
Asked Liarboi to offer his evidence for a god creating the universe.
Liarboi proves his head is move of a vacuum than space is!
http://tinyurl.com/3twjs48
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #45
Challenged on his admission that he lied about Adam & Eve and a young-
Earth, LiarBoi ran away!
http://tinyurl.com/3pabgsu
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #46
LiarBoi unintelligently designed a lie and then ran away
http://tinyurl.com/3p75lhd
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #47
LiarBoi says one thing in one message, contradicts himself in another,
the runs away when challenged.
http://tinyurl.com/3bflqkr
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #48
Given a chance to discuss design, LiarBoi creatively exited the
thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3oplwuw
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #49
Offered a chance to discuss his lack of guts, spine, and original
thought, and why he has a pipe stuck up his ass, LiarBoi slithered
away.
http://tinyurl.com/3mszdd6
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #50
Offerd a chance to discuss the "concilience [sic] of science, math,
and physics: a Creating Intelligent God" Liarboi Fled the Thread
http://tinyurl.com/3boy8ae
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #51
http://tinyurl.com/3hwywdl
Flood debate was a washout - LiarBoi Loirbaj the Loonbag Fled the
Thread.
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #52
http://tinyurl.com/7yyx83c
Challenged to debate atheist knowledge v. theist knowledge, LiarBoi
Loirbaj the Loonbag admitted he knows nothing and Fled the Thread.
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #53
http://tinyurl.com/8yobgg4
Challenged on his lies about Richard Dawkins, LiarBoi Loirbaj the
Loonbag Fled the Thread.
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #54
http://tinyurl.com/6wk79as
Challenged on his gullible claims that I'd posted a clearly spoofed
insult to gays, LiarBoi Loirbaj the Loonbag Fled the Thread.
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #55
http://tinyurl.com/7d2s93z
Offered a second chance to debate Jesus, Liarboi the Loonbag Fled the
Thread.
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #56
http://tinyurl.com/7az9uw6
Offered the chance to debate the efficacy of prayer, LiarBoi the
Loonbag Fled the Thread.
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #57
http://tinyurl.com/6v6dhy6
Offered the chance to defend his claims that there's a heaven, LiarBoi
the Loonbag Fled the Thread.
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #58
http://tinyurl.com/6wyp6se
Offered a third chance to debate Jesus, Liarboi the Loonbag Fled the
Thread.
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #59
http://tinyurl.com/c47efyr
LiarBoi Loirbaj used his Flee Will! lol!
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #60
http://tinyurl.com/7oq9q7d
Challenged to support his evil characterization of atheists, LiarBoi
the Loonbag openly admitted he had no cv to qualify him to make such a
judgment and then Fled the Thread.
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #61
http://tinyurl.com/87rrvtf
Challenged to debate the true meaning of Winter Solstice, Liarboi the
Loonbag froze!
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #62
http://tinyurl.com/7mxogt6
Challenged on intelligent design, Liarboi Loirbaj the Loonbag
intelligently Designed an exit from the thread.
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #63
http://tinyurl.com/7axbzsu
Challenged to discuss eovltuion, Loonbag the Loinbra evolved into a
chicken!
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #64
http://tinyurl.com/7j47ofs
Budikka offered no challenge whatsoever, but cowardly Loirbaj
preemptively ran away! This is the best one ever!
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #65
http://tinyurl.com/7xld5j7
Challenged on his lie abotu what Darwin said about bears and whales,
Liarboi Loirbaj got all bearish and Fled the Thread!
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #66
http://tinyurl.com/77s8om8
Challenged to discuss intecessory prayer failure, LiarBoj the Loonbag
failed to show!
Budikka
When asked what his academic qualifications were to set himself up as
judge and jury of the Theory of Evolution, Fled the Thread, thereby
proving himself a hypocrite.
http://tinyurl.com/3rf72jl
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #2
Challenged on his 'missing links' LIE. Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3um7gc4
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #3
Asked what positive scientific evidence he had which demonstrates that
the entire surface of the Earth was completely under water only about
4,300 years old as the Bible chronology in Luke indicates. Fled the
Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/44c3q94
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #4
Asked if he had any positive scientific evidence which demonstrates
that the Earth and indeed the universe are only about 6,000 years old
as the Bible chronology in Luke indicates. Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3d38lwe
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #5
Asked what professionally published positive scientific evidence there
is for a creator or for a creation. Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3sya4pn
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #6
Asked what independent objective evidence there is for a creator or
for a creation, posted around the same time as the above. Fled the
Thread.
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #7
Asked what intelligent rationale he could offer for a creator or for a
creation, posted around the same time as the above. Fled the Thread.
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #8
LIED that he posted 180 failures of evolution when he posted only a
handful, all of which were easily refuted. Didn't even *pretend* he
could support his claim! Instead, he Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3ueca9g
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #9
LIED that humans and apes do not have a common ancestry and when asked
for evidence and invited to debate it, he Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3doxezm
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #10
Invited to go toe-to-toe on the existence of this god of his. Fled
the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3s6wwaf
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #11
Invited to discuss unsupported claims he made about the coelacanth.
Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/44kxjxf
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #12
Taken to task over LIES about Richard Dawkins. Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3md8lbg
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #13
Called out on his LIE about evolution and invited to discuss it. Fled
the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3q5g5v8
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #14
Called out on his LIE about Jack Kevorkian's whereabouts. Hell? Fled
the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3tw8pja
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #15
Called out on his LIE about convicted criminal Garcia's whereabouts.
Hell? Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/69z2wex
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #16
Called out on his LIE about the Peppered moth, Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3j9cy7b
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #17
Invited to discuss his knowledge of the Bible. Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3pfrg53
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #18
Invited to discuss his LIE about the odds of abiogenesis and
evolution. Fled the thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3v5x4or
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #19
Offered a discussion of his shameful LIE about anti-semitism. Fled
the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3shfato
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #20
LIES about Charles Darwin's purported racism were exposed. Fled the
Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3c8mele
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #21
Invited you to define 'Evolution' so that we could discuss it
intelligently. Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3grr2tm
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #22
Made several statements on the reliability of the Bible and when
challenged to support them Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3vc4v8o
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #23
LIED about what Darwin said about the evolution of the eye and when
taken to task on this, Fled the Thread:
http://tinyurl.com/3mp9fbs
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #24
We set LiarBoi Loirbaj straight on abiogenesis after he accused us of
making the claims that Joseki (whom he's directly and repeatedly
supported) was making, he FLED THE THREAD:
http://tinyurl.com/3mhzezl
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #25
Challenged on his 'billions of fossils' LIE. Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3ce9g8j
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #26
Challenged on Jesus Christ. Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/6kck7b5
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #27
Washed out in the Noahic flood. Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/4xo7k7v
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #28
Challenged on his Rick Perry LIES. Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3w2rkhu
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #29
Big Bang Scares LiarBoi Loirbaj! Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/4xy9hhj
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #30
Liarboi's Junk Shrivels Away! Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3mb6xts
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #31
Selfish Genes are More Generous Than Skinflint LiarBoi! Fled the
Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/4yh4nyh
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #32
Why species 'A' doesn't become extinct automatically after giving rise
to species 'B'. Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3t2l3qf
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #33
The Definition of Speciation. Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3f7m488
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #34
LIED that there was a "mountain of evidence" disproving evolution.
Fled the Thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3k2jtqg
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #35
Didn't dare set foot in a thread which pointed out what a fraud he was
when he talks about Stephen Jay Gould and the visibility of genes to
evolution
http://tinyurl.com/3k8upef
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #36
Ran from his virus lie.
http://tinyurl.com/3om8ps5
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #37
When his lIE about scientists skeptical of Evolution was exposed,
LiarBoi Loirbaj Fled the Thread!
http://tinyurl.com/3c6kufl
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #38
Radiometric dating. Fled the thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3gwzkhy
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #39
After having been bitten by Darwin's finches, he flew the coop!
http://tinyurl.com/6b7sm9o
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #40
Offered a debate on the evidence for evolution, LiarBoi Loirbaj
prformed the amazing feat of running up the white flag.
http://tinyurl.com/3lgbdo3
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #41
Talk about fruit and watch LiarBoi fly!
http://tinyurl.com/3gvhqq4
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #42
Offered the chance to discuss transitional fossils, LiarBoi Loirbaj
transitioned into a chicken
http://tinyurl.com/3fq8omp
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #43
Asked to support his claim that a god made men and women, Liarboi
Loirbaj Ran Away!
http://tinyurl.com/43m6exa
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #44
Asked Liarboi to offer his evidence for a god creating the universe.
Liarboi proves his head is move of a vacuum than space is!
http://tinyurl.com/3twjs48
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #45
Challenged on his admission that he lied about Adam & Eve and a young-
Earth, LiarBoi ran away!
http://tinyurl.com/3pabgsu
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #46
LiarBoi unintelligently designed a lie and then ran away
http://tinyurl.com/3p75lhd
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #47
LiarBoi says one thing in one message, contradicts himself in another,
the runs away when challenged.
http://tinyurl.com/3bflqkr
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #48
Given a chance to discuss design, LiarBoi creatively exited the
thread.
http://tinyurl.com/3oplwuw
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #49
Offered a chance to discuss his lack of guts, spine, and original
thought, and why he has a pipe stuck up his ass, LiarBoi slithered
away.
http://tinyurl.com/3mszdd6
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #50
Offerd a chance to discuss the "concilience [sic] of science, math,
and physics: a Creating Intelligent God" Liarboi Fled the Thread
http://tinyurl.com/3boy8ae
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #51
http://tinyurl.com/3hwywdl
Flood debate was a washout - LiarBoi Loirbaj the Loonbag Fled the
Thread.
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #52
http://tinyurl.com/7yyx83c
Challenged to debate atheist knowledge v. theist knowledge, LiarBoi
Loirbaj the Loonbag admitted he knows nothing and Fled the Thread.
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #53
http://tinyurl.com/8yobgg4
Challenged on his lies about Richard Dawkins, LiarBoi Loirbaj the
Loonbag Fled the Thread.
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #54
http://tinyurl.com/6wk79as
Challenged on his gullible claims that I'd posted a clearly spoofed
insult to gays, LiarBoi Loirbaj the Loonbag Fled the Thread.
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #55
http://tinyurl.com/7d2s93z
Offered a second chance to debate Jesus, Liarboi the Loonbag Fled the
Thread.
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #56
http://tinyurl.com/7az9uw6
Offered the chance to debate the efficacy of prayer, LiarBoi the
Loonbag Fled the Thread.
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #57
http://tinyurl.com/6v6dhy6
Offered the chance to defend his claims that there's a heaven, LiarBoi
the Loonbag Fled the Thread.
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #58
http://tinyurl.com/6wyp6se
Offered a third chance to debate Jesus, Liarboi the Loonbag Fled the
Thread.
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #59
http://tinyurl.com/c47efyr
LiarBoi Loirbaj used his Flee Will! lol!
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #60
http://tinyurl.com/7oq9q7d
Challenged to support his evil characterization of atheists, LiarBoi
the Loonbag openly admitted he had no cv to qualify him to make such a
judgment and then Fled the Thread.
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #61
http://tinyurl.com/87rrvtf
Challenged to debate the true meaning of Winter Solstice, Liarboi the
Loonbag froze!
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #62
http://tinyurl.com/7mxogt6
Challenged on intelligent design, Liarboi Loirbaj the Loonbag
intelligently Designed an exit from the thread.
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #63
http://tinyurl.com/7axbzsu
Challenged to discuss eovltuion, Loonbag the Loinbra evolved into a
chicken!
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #64
http://tinyurl.com/7j47ofs
Budikka offered no challenge whatsoever, but cowardly Loirbaj
preemptively ran away! This is the best one ever!
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #65
http://tinyurl.com/7xld5j7
Challenged on his lie abotu what Darwin said about bears and whales,
Liarboi Loirbaj got all bearish and Fled the Thread!
LiarBoi Loirbaj Cowardice #66
http://tinyurl.com/77s8om8
Challenged to discuss intecessory prayer failure, LiarBoj the Loonbag
failed to show!
Budikka
Budikka666
Dec 31, 2011, 3:29:36 PM12/31/11
to
On Dec 31, 12:18 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> "Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
That was your challenge? How on Earth did you honestly (aye, there's
the rub!) expect me to learn of a challenge on a web site where we
never go, you pathetic coward? Just exactly how dedicatedly stupid
are you to even imagine that? Is that why you issued it there so we'd
never see it and then you could claim a two-faced cowardly victory?
lol!
You really are as brain-dead as you dedicatedly demonstrate yourself
to be.
No, if we decide to waste some time on a lowlife like you, it's going
to be right here in a.a, t.a., and a.t.c. the three venues where
Budikka's challenges are issued. Got that? it's at a venue owned by
none of us, at a venue where a record is kept; at a venue where you
cannot edit what we say and change it around to dishonestly
misrepresent our arguments. Do you *really* think everyone is a dumb
as you quite clearly are?
You say, "I have to work and go to ORU..." I say, "Who cares?"
You say, "...but I challenge that lardass welfare queen Buddikka to a
mini-debate"
We say that your childish "challenge" starts out by announcing how
clueless you are. You have no idea who Budikka is or what gender.
LiarBoi claims 'old man', Duck & Run claims 'hot babe'. Now you're
pulling 'obese welfare queen' out of your dumb puerile ass?
Not one of you imbeciles grasps the fact that there isn't just one
Budikka nor that the name today is not owned by the same person it was
owned by many years ago. Why don't you go fight out with those two
other morons who Budikka is? I'll pay to see that debate lol! The
name is not about a person, it's about a position. Get that straight
and you'll have learned something.
You say, "You get 3 questions, that's it." We say, "This is finally
your sad little challenge?" Seriously?
Why would *anyone* want to ask a juvenile dipshit like you *any*
questions at all? You clearly have no idea what you're talking about
and no authority to talk!
You continue: "And the Bible is considered a reliable source." We
say, "You're quite evidently off your meds lol! The Bible has been
repeatedly demonstrated to be an utterly unreliable source, but more
about that in a second.
You say, "Don't agree with my rules? Fuck off."?
We say, "What a charming example of Christian love you are, you
pathetic little hypocrite. What are you, eighteen going on 8?"
You say, " I run this chat board, so I make the rules. Scamuel
Whoregon might not have the time to debate you, but I'll make the time
to spank your obese ass."
More cluelessness. What deludes you into thinking that *anyone* cares
about your pissant little kids' "chat board" (what are you from the
80's or something?) that no one ever heard of. You can hide over
there and call people all the childish names you want, and issue all
the meaningless challenges you like, but no one gives a damn. Got
that?
Now here's the debate we will have right here in these three news
groups (or you can make childish excuses and run): ***YOU*** asserted
in your challenge that the Holy Bible is a reliable source, so that's
my challenge to you. What positive scientific AND/OR independent
objective evidence do you have that the Bible is a reliable source
when it discusses the supernatural - particularly in when it relates
tales about god or about the son of this god known as Jesus Christ.
You can start by posting your five best pieces of evidence supporting
the existence of either one of those characters. Because without them
the bible is really just a piss-poor Jewish history book, isn't it?
Take it or run, Zachy-Baby.
Budikka
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> "Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> > But there never was a challenge, was there, Mulebrain? You never
> > issued a challenge.
>
> http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/6295204/i_challenge_no_life_bud...
> > issued a challenge.
>
That was your challenge? How on Earth did you honestly (aye, there's
the rub!) expect me to learn of a challenge on a web site where we
never go, you pathetic coward? Just exactly how dedicatedly stupid
are you to even imagine that? Is that why you issued it there so we'd
never see it and then you could claim a two-faced cowardly victory?
lol!
You really are as brain-dead as you dedicatedly demonstrate yourself
to be.
No, if we decide to waste some time on a lowlife like you, it's going
to be right here in a.a, t.a., and a.t.c. the three venues where
Budikka's challenges are issued. Got that? it's at a venue owned by
none of us, at a venue where a record is kept; at a venue where you
cannot edit what we say and change it around to dishonestly
misrepresent our arguments. Do you *really* think everyone is a dumb
as you quite clearly are?
You say, "I have to work and go to ORU..." I say, "Who cares?"
You say, "...but I challenge that lardass welfare queen Buddikka to a
mini-debate"
We say that your childish "challenge" starts out by announcing how
clueless you are. You have no idea who Budikka is or what gender.
LiarBoi claims 'old man', Duck & Run claims 'hot babe'. Now you're
pulling 'obese welfare queen' out of your dumb puerile ass?
Not one of you imbeciles grasps the fact that there isn't just one
Budikka nor that the name today is not owned by the same person it was
owned by many years ago. Why don't you go fight out with those two
other morons who Budikka is? I'll pay to see that debate lol! The
name is not about a person, it's about a position. Get that straight
and you'll have learned something.
You say, "You get 3 questions, that's it." We say, "This is finally
your sad little challenge?" Seriously?
Why would *anyone* want to ask a juvenile dipshit like you *any*
questions at all? You clearly have no idea what you're talking about
and no authority to talk!
You continue: "And the Bible is considered a reliable source." We
say, "You're quite evidently off your meds lol! The Bible has been
repeatedly demonstrated to be an utterly unreliable source, but more
about that in a second.
You say, "Don't agree with my rules? Fuck off."?
We say, "What a charming example of Christian love you are, you
pathetic little hypocrite. What are you, eighteen going on 8?"
You say, " I run this chat board, so I make the rules. Scamuel
Whoregon might not have the time to debate you, but I'll make the time
to spank your obese ass."
More cluelessness. What deludes you into thinking that *anyone* cares
about your pissant little kids' "chat board" (what are you from the
80's or something?) that no one ever heard of. You can hide over
there and call people all the childish names you want, and issue all
the meaningless challenges you like, but no one gives a damn. Got
that?
Now here's the debate we will have right here in these three news
groups (or you can make childish excuses and run): ***YOU*** asserted
in your challenge that the Holy Bible is a reliable source, so that's
my challenge to you. What positive scientific AND/OR independent
objective evidence do you have that the Bible is a reliable source
when it discusses the supernatural - particularly in when it relates
tales about god or about the son of this god known as Jesus Christ.
You can start by posting your five best pieces of evidence supporting
the existence of either one of those characters. Because without them
the bible is really just a piss-poor Jewish history book, isn't it?
Take it or run, Zachy-Baby.
Budikka
Uergil
Dec 31, 2011, 3:46:22 PM12/31/11
to
In article
<034f924b-7291-4616...@z19g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>,
Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> John Mitchell Raemsch BroilJAB Baker said,
his/her own good faith, Budikka quite rightly judged Liarboi not to have
any good faith, or any other kind of faith for that matter.
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson
<034f924b-7291-4616...@z19g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>,
Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> John Mitchell Raemsch BroilJAB Baker said,
> I challenged the old kook Ian Wood aka budikka
> to a debate and he refused --said that he would
> NOT provide me a CV or basic contact info.
When Liarboi refused to provide a CV or basic contact info as a sign of
> to a debate and he refused --said that he would
> NOT provide me a CV or basic contact info.
his/her own good faith, Budikka quite rightly judged Liarboi not to have
any good faith, or any other kind of faith for that matter.
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson
Zacharias Mulletstein
Jan 1, 2012, 12:10:41 AM1/1/12
to
news:c119a4c9-3e79-4e86...@f33g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
posts.
> You really are as brain-dead as you dedicatedly demonstrate yourself
> to be.
And you can't figure out what a Usenet archive is.
> No, if we decide to waste some time on a lowlife like you, it's going
> to be right here in a.a, t.a., and a.t.c. the three venues where
> Budikka's challenges are issued. Got that? it's at a venue owned by
> none of us, at a venue where a record is kept; at a venue where you
> cannot edit what we say and change it around to dishonestly
> misrepresent our arguments. Do you *really* think everyone is a dumb
> as you quite clearly are?
>
> You say, "I have to work and go to ORU..." I say, "Who cares?"
>
> You say, "...but I challenge that lardass welfare queen Buddikka to a
> mini-debate"
>
> We say that your childish "challenge" starts out by announcing how
> clueless you are. You have no idea who Budikka is or what gender.
> LiarBoi claims 'old man', Duck & Run claims 'hot babe'. Now you're
> pulling 'obese welfare queen' out of your dumb puerile ass?
Because if you were slender and pretty you would be out getting dick. But
since you spend 22 hours a day on here, you're obviously flabby and have the
face of a Saint...a Saint Bernard.
> On Dec 31, 12:18 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>> "Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
>> > But there never was a challenge, was there, Mulebrain? You never
>> > issued a challenge.
>>
>> http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/6295204/i_challenge_no_life_bud...
>
> That was your challenge? How on Earth did you honestly (aye, there's
> the rub!) expect me to learn of a challenge on a web site where we
> never go, you pathetic coward? Just exactly how dedicatedly stupid
> are you to even imagine that? Is that why you issued it there so we'd
> never see it and then you could claim a two-faced cowardly victory?
> lol!
You never go to alt.atheism? That link is to an archive of alt.atheism
> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>> "Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
>> > But there never was a challenge, was there, Mulebrain? You never
>> > issued a challenge.
>>
>> http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/6295204/i_challenge_no_life_bud...
>
> That was your challenge? How on Earth did you honestly (aye, there's
> the rub!) expect me to learn of a challenge on a web site where we
> never go, you pathetic coward? Just exactly how dedicatedly stupid
> are you to even imagine that? Is that why you issued it there so we'd
> never see it and then you could claim a two-faced cowardly victory?
> lol!
posts.
> You really are as brain-dead as you dedicatedly demonstrate yourself
> to be.
> No, if we decide to waste some time on a lowlife like you, it's going
> to be right here in a.a, t.a., and a.t.c. the three venues where
> Budikka's challenges are issued. Got that? it's at a venue owned by
> none of us, at a venue where a record is kept; at a venue where you
> cannot edit what we say and change it around to dishonestly
> misrepresent our arguments. Do you *really* think everyone is a dumb
> as you quite clearly are?
>
> You say, "I have to work and go to ORU..." I say, "Who cares?"
>
> You say, "...but I challenge that lardass welfare queen Buddikka to a
> mini-debate"
>
> We say that your childish "challenge" starts out by announcing how
> clueless you are. You have no idea who Budikka is or what gender.
> LiarBoi claims 'old man', Duck & Run claims 'hot babe'. Now you're
> pulling 'obese welfare queen' out of your dumb puerile ass?
since you spend 22 hours a day on here, you're obviously flabby and have the
face of a Saint...a Saint Bernard.
duke
Jan 1, 2012, 10:10:10 AM1/1/12
to
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 11:47:49 -0800 (PST), Budikka666 <budi...@netscape.net>
wrote:
>On Dec 31, 8:14 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:07:29 -0800 (PST), Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >John Mitchell Raemsch VIRGIL Baker said,
>> >I challenged the old kook Ian Wood aka budikka
>> >to a debate and he refused --said that he would
>> >NOT provide me a CV or basic contact info.
>>
>> Don't worry about it. Bud da dud de caca will NEVER respond. She's best left
>> to dissolve into the ether.
>
>Once again Duck & Run Duke has been proven a liar in the news groups.
Waiting on you to do something you are violently afraid of - actually engaging
in a discussion.
wrote:
>On Dec 31, 8:14 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:07:29 -0800 (PST), Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >John Mitchell Raemsch VIRGIL Baker said,
>> >I challenged the old kook Ian Wood aka budikka
>> >to a debate and he refused --said that he would
>> >NOT provide me a CV or basic contact info.
>>
>> Don't worry about it. Bud da dud de caca will NEVER respond. She's best left
>> to dissolve into the ether.
>
>Once again Duck & Run Duke has been proven a liar in the news groups.
in a discussion.
ken
Jan 1, 2012, 11:44:05 AM1/1/12
to
On Jan 1, 7:10 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote nothing worth
repeating, as usual
Go out play with your ball n string, Puke
repeating, as usual
Go out play with your ball n string, Puke
Budikka666
Jan 1, 2012, 12:02:29 PM1/1/12
to
On Dec 31 2011, 11:10 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
your challenge were recent, why not give a reference to the message
instead of to an archive, dimwit?
> > You really are as brain-dead as you dedicatedly demonstrate yourself
> > to be.
>
> And you can't figure out what a Usenet archive is.
If it;s not in a.a. then I dont; bother with it. Got that? Here's
what a link to a message in a.a looks like:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.creationism/msg/84c047023d4377aa
Are you up to speed now? I know your;e slow but this is embarrassing
even by a creationist's standards.
> > No, if we decide to waste some time on a lowlife like you, it's going
> > to be right here in a.a, t.a., and a.t.c. the three venues where
> > Budikka's challenges are issued. Got that? it's at a venue owned by
> > none of us, at a venue where a record is kept; at a venue where you
> > cannot edit what we say and change it around to dishonestly
> > misrepresent our arguments. Do you *really* think everyone is a dumb
> > as you quite clearly are?
>
> > You say, "I have to work and go to ORU..." I say, "Who cares?"
>
> > You say, "...but I challenge that lardass welfare queen Buddikka to a
> > mini-debate"
>
> > We say that your childish "challenge" starts out by announcing how
> > clueless you are. You have no idea who Budikka is or what gender.
> > LiarBoi claims 'old man', Duck & Run claims 'hot babe'. Now you're
> > pulling 'obese welfare queen' out of your dumb puerile ass?
>
> Because if you were slender and pretty you would be out getting dick.
If you weren't a juvenile you;d have a clue.
> But
> since you spend 22 hours a day on here, you're obviously flabby and have the
> face of a Saint...a Saint Bernard.
Quite obviously I don't moron. Unlike you creationist losers, I have
a life, and I sure as hell don't waste my time searching for messages
posted by spotty-faced kids on bullshit obscure "chat boards", and
creationist losers in a.a. challenging me with brain-dead "ask me
three questions so I can spew bullshit and claim victory" insanity. I
know this is what you creationist losers do because I get it all the
time, but then you creationists are quite evidently in love with me as
much as you chase me around. Your worship me mroe than you worship
yoru own god! lol!
I see you're too chicken to take me up on my challenge. No surprises
there.
Budikka
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> "Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
>
> news:c119a4c9-3e79-4e86...@f33g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Dec 31, 12:18 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> > <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> >> "Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> >> > But there never was a challenge, was there, Mulebrain? You never
> >> > issued a challenge.
>
> >>http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/6295204/i_challenge_no_life_bud...
>
> > That was your challenge? How on Earth did you honestly (aye, there's
> > the rub!) expect me to learn of a challenge on a web site where we
> > never go, you pathetic coward? Just exactly how dedicatedly stupid
> > are you to even imagine that? Is that why you issued it there so we'd
> > never see it and then you could claim a two-faced cowardly victory?
> > lol!
>
> You never go to alt.atheism? That link is to an archive of alt.atheism
> posts.
The link was to a German freak site. Go click on it yourself. And if
> "Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
>
> news:c119a4c9-3e79-4e86...@f33g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Dec 31, 12:18 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> > <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> >> "Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> >> > But there never was a challenge, was there, Mulebrain? You never
> >> > issued a challenge.
>
> >>http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/6295204/i_challenge_no_life_bud...
>
> > That was your challenge? How on Earth did you honestly (aye, there's
> > the rub!) expect me to learn of a challenge on a web site where we
> > never go, you pathetic coward? Just exactly how dedicatedly stupid
> > are you to even imagine that? Is that why you issued it there so we'd
> > never see it and then you could claim a two-faced cowardly victory?
> > lol!
>
> You never go to alt.atheism? That link is to an archive of alt.atheism
> posts.
your challenge were recent, why not give a reference to the message
instead of to an archive, dimwit?
> > You really are as brain-dead as you dedicatedly demonstrate yourself
> > to be.
>
> And you can't figure out what a Usenet archive is.
what a link to a message in a.a looks like:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.creationism/msg/84c047023d4377aa
Are you up to speed now? I know your;e slow but this is embarrassing
even by a creationist's standards.
> > No, if we decide to waste some time on a lowlife like you, it's going
> > to be right here in a.a, t.a., and a.t.c. the three venues where
> > Budikka's challenges are issued. Got that? it's at a venue owned by
> > none of us, at a venue where a record is kept; at a venue where you
> > cannot edit what we say and change it around to dishonestly
> > misrepresent our arguments. Do you *really* think everyone is a dumb
> > as you quite clearly are?
>
> > You say, "I have to work and go to ORU..." I say, "Who cares?"
>
> > You say, "...but I challenge that lardass welfare queen Buddikka to a
> > mini-debate"
>
> > We say that your childish "challenge" starts out by announcing how
> > clueless you are. You have no idea who Budikka is or what gender.
> > LiarBoi claims 'old man', Duck & Run claims 'hot babe'. Now you're
> > pulling 'obese welfare queen' out of your dumb puerile ass?
>
> Because if you were slender and pretty you would be out getting dick.
> But
> since you spend 22 hours a day on here, you're obviously flabby and have the
> face of a Saint...a Saint Bernard.
a life, and I sure as hell don't waste my time searching for messages
posted by spotty-faced kids on bullshit obscure "chat boards", and
creationist losers in a.a. challenging me with brain-dead "ask me
three questions so I can spew bullshit and claim victory" insanity. I
know this is what you creationist losers do because I get it all the
time, but then you creationists are quite evidently in love with me as
much as you chase me around. Your worship me mroe than you worship
yoru own god! lol!
there.
Budikka
Budikka666
Jan 1, 2012, 12:04:03 PM1/1/12
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On Dec 31, 8:14 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
Waiting on you to do something you are violently afraid of - actually
engaging in a discussion.
Great. Pick *any* of the challenges below from which you have already
Waiting on you to do something you are violently afraid of - actually
engaging in a discussion.
run away, and let's you and me get right to it right here in this
thread since Zachy-Baby has fled my challenge to him.
Here's an abridged list of threads in which I have posed serious
duke
Jan 1, 2012, 1:49:25 PM1/1/12
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A ball on a string still doesn't rotate.
Bud da dud de caca is scared to death to discuss.
Devils Advocaat
Jan 1, 2012, 1:55:30 PM1/1/12
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On Jan 1, 6:49 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
rotation when orbiting the fixed central point to which the other end
of the string is attached.
> On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 08:44:05 -0800 (PST), ken <flakey...@att.net> wrote:
> >On Jan 1, 7:10 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote nothing worth
> >repeating, as usual
>
> >Go out play with your ball n string, Puke
>
> The story won't change.
>
> A ball on a string still doesn't rotate.
Provide evidence that a ball on a string does not exhibit synchronous
> >On Jan 1, 7:10 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote nothing worth
> >repeating, as usual
>
> >Go out play with your ball n string, Puke
>
> The story won't change.
>
> A ball on a string still doesn't rotate.
rotation when orbiting the fixed central point to which the other end
of the string is attached.
Budikka666
Jan 1, 2012, 5:44:50 PM1/1/12
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On Dec 31, 8:14 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
Waiting on you to do something you are violently afraid of - actually
engaging in a discussion.
Waiting on you to do something you are violently afraid of - actually
engaging in a discussion.
Great. Pick *any* of the challenges below from which you have already
run away, and let's you and me get right to it right here in this
thread since Zachy-Baby has fled my challenge to him.
run away, and let's you and me get right to it right here in this
thread since Zachy-Baby has fled my challenge to him.
Here's an abridged list of threads in which I have posed serious
questions about your position and from which you have run like
Zacharias Mulletstein
Jan 1, 2012, 6:44:50 PM1/1/12
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news:617a0a41-5bcb-49d4...@k10g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
You're the one running from my challenge.
Now post evidence that Jesus Christ never existed here:
I await you running and hiding from the challenge as you always do.
Now post evidence that Jesus Christ never existed here:
I await you running and hiding from the challenge as you always do.
Colanth
Jan 1, 2012, 7:14:38 PM1/1/12
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On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 10:55:30 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat
<manky...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jan 1, 6:49 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 08:44:05 -0800 (PST), ken <flakey...@att.net> wrote:
>> >On Jan 1, 7:10 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote nothing worth
>> >repeating, as usual
>>
>> >Go out play with your ball n string, Puke
>>
>> The story won't change.
>>
>> A ball on a string still doesn't rotate.
>
>Provide evidence that a ball on a string does not exhibit synchronous
>rotation when orbiting the fixed central point to which the other end
>of the string is attached.
You expect Earl to understand the concept, let alone the words?
<manky...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jan 1, 6:49 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 08:44:05 -0800 (PST), ken <flakey...@att.net> wrote:
>> >On Jan 1, 7:10 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote nothing worth
>> >repeating, as usual
>>
>> >Go out play with your ball n string, Puke
>>
>> The story won't change.
>>
>> A ball on a string still doesn't rotate.
>
>Provide evidence that a ball on a string does not exhibit synchronous
>rotation when orbiting the fixed central point to which the other end
>of the string is attached.
I wonder what he thinks about the moon. Does it rotate, Earl?
--
"We all remember how many religious wars were fought for a religion of
love and gentleness; how many bodies were burned live with the
genuinely kind intention of saving souls from the eternal fire of
hell." - Karl Popper
Colanth
Jan 2, 2012, 1:14:22 AM1/2/12
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On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 17:44:50 -0600, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>Now post evidence that Jesus Christ never existed here:
ZACHY! You know better. It's the existentially POSITIVE claim that
<zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>Now post evidence that Jesus Christ never existed here:
requires evidence. (Err ... that would be yours - so we await your
evidence. Lines in a flatbread don't count.)
--
“All religion, my friend, is simply evolved out of fraud, fear, greed,
imagination, and poetry” - Edgar Allan Poe
Zacharias Mulletstein
Jan 2, 2012, 1:23:17 AM1/2/12
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"Colanth" <col...@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:qni2g7939tsjjeuhs...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 17:44:50 -0600, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>
>>Now post evidence that Jesus Christ never existed here:
>
> ZACHY! You know better. It's the existentially POSITIVE claim that
> requires evidence. (Err ... that would be yours - so we await your
> evidence. Lines in a flatbread don't count.)
I know Jesus Christ is real because I've had numerous conversations with
> <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>
>>Now post evidence that Jesus Christ never existed here:
>
> ZACHY! You know better. It's the existentially POSITIVE claim that
> requires evidence. (Err ... that would be yours - so we await your
> evidence. Lines in a flatbread don't count.)
him. Now I know you won't accept that as evidence, but I know what I saw.
And no, I wasn't huffing bug spray at the time I talked to JC. And the
Bible is more evidence that Jesus Christ existed. There were 4 Gospels
written independently that all mention the life of Jesus Christ. If you
can't accept that as evidence, then you just hate God and don't want him to
exist.
Devils Advocaat
Jan 2, 2012, 4:39:17 AM1/2/12
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On Jan 1, 11:44 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
Where is your evidence that this Jesus of whom you speak actually
existed.
existed.
Devils Advocaat
Jan 2, 2012, 4:50:58 AM1/2/12
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On Jan 2, 6:23 am, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> "Colanth" <cola...@pern.invalid> wrote in message
delusions.
> Now I know you won't accept that as evidence, but I know what I saw.
The problem with that is visual hallucinations are also subjective
experiences.
> And no, I wasn't huffing bug spray at the time I talked to JC.
Did anyone imply you were?
> And the
> Bible is more evidence that Jesus Christ existed.
Is it?
> There were 4 Gospels
> written independently that all mention the life of Jesus Christ.
The evidence suggests the earliest of these books was written at least
twenty years after the events it supposedly describes.
> If you
> can't accept that as evidence, then you just hate God and don't want him to
> exist.
Subjective experiences, and so-called eye witness accounts written
decades after the event are not exactly the most reliable forms of
evidence.
If you were to present more objective evidence for this alleged
mangod's existence people would be more inclined to pay attention.
After all, even the NT relates the story of Thomas Didymus.
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> "Colanth" <cola...@pern.invalid> wrote in message
>
> news:qni2g7939tsjjeuhs...@4ax.com...
>
> > On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 17:44:50 -0600, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> > <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>
> >>Now post evidence that Jesus Christ never existed here:
>
> > ZACHY! You know better. It's the existentially POSITIVE claim that
> > requires evidence. (Err ... that would be yours - so we await your
> > evidence. Lines in a flatbread don't count.)
>
> I know Jesus Christ is real because I've had numerous conversations with
> him.
Subjective experiences of this nature are usually diagnosed as
> news:qni2g7939tsjjeuhs...@4ax.com...
>
> > On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 17:44:50 -0600, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> > <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>
> >>Now post evidence that Jesus Christ never existed here:
>
> > ZACHY! You know better. It's the existentially POSITIVE claim that
> > requires evidence. (Err ... that would be yours - so we await your
> > evidence. Lines in a flatbread don't count.)
>
> I know Jesus Christ is real because I've had numerous conversations with
> him.
delusions.
> Now I know you won't accept that as evidence, but I know what I saw.
experiences.
> And no, I wasn't huffing bug spray at the time I talked to JC.
> And the
> Bible is more evidence that Jesus Christ existed.
> There were 4 Gospels
> written independently that all mention the life of Jesus Christ.
twenty years after the events it supposedly describes.
> If you
> can't accept that as evidence, then you just hate God and don't want him to
> exist.
decades after the event are not exactly the most reliable forms of
evidence.
If you were to present more objective evidence for this alleged
mangod's existence people would be more inclined to pay attention.
After all, even the NT relates the story of Thomas Didymus.
Loirbaj
Jan 2, 2012, 5:40:39 AM1/2/12
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The archive is clear, Ian Wood. You first claimed
to want to debate and then you FLED Mulletstein.
Exactly as you did with Andrew, with Me, with
Dr.K.Hovind, with Duke, with AllSeeing, with US4Z.
Have you NO decency, sir?
When I heard that Hitchens was dead,
I took a deep breath. The air felt cleaner
--Finkelstein
to want to debate and then you FLED Mulletstein.
Exactly as you did with Andrew, with Me, with
Dr.K.Hovind, with Duke, with AllSeeing, with US4Z.
Have you NO decency, sir?
When I heard that Hitchens was dead,
I took a deep breath. The air felt cleaner
--Finkelstein
walksalone
Jan 2, 2012, 6:23:38 AM1/2/12
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Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:a717f9da-ca2e-4e6f...@m10g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
> On Jan 2, 6:23�am, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>> "Colanth" <cola...@pern.invalid> wrote in message
>>
>> news:qni2g7939tsjjeuhs...@4ax.com...
Snip And Piggybacking.
Translation for zachy, this means you screwed up in public, still or
again, & I chose to point it out. This is not an invittion to
conversation, simply an acknowlegmet of your les than adequate knowledge
of your mythology.
>> And no, I wasn't huffing bug spray at the time I talked to JC.
>
> Did anyone imply you were?
>
>> And the
>> Bible is more evidence that Jesus Christ existed.
>
> Is it?
>
>> There were 4 Gospels
>> written independently that all mention the life of Jesus Christ.
No,there are not. There are at least 5 easily found gospels, but only
four in the Catholic version. The Catholic version, why yes. Protestism
is catholosim light. With many of the same misconceptions as the
catholic claim to shame.
walksaone who does understand the self imposed limitations that those
like zachy impose on themselves once they reach the age of learning.
Sad, but for blind luck I could have been just as brain dead about the
boogymen humanity has burdened itself with.
Wanna get right with god, LLC. the following are those that found favor,
but try it today & go to prison.
Absalom--ordered killings (2 Sam. 13:28-29 RSV) and had sex in the open
(2 Sam. 16:22 RSV);
Amon--raped his sister, Tamar (2 Sam. 13:11-14 RSV);
Abimelech--killed a city's inhabitants (Jud. 9:45 RSV); and murdered
wantonly (Jud. 9:5);
Ehud--murdered king Eglon (Jud. 3:21-22 RSV);
Elijah--committed murder (1 Kings 18:40);
Elisha--lied (2 Kings 6:19), told a man a lie (2 Kings 8:10 RSV), cursed
42 small boys to be torn apart for mocking his bald head (2 Kings 2:23-24
RSV);
Gideon--killed (Jud. 8:16:17 the Living Bible), murdered prisoners (Jud.
8:21 RSV), engaged in polygamy (Jud. 8:30);
Issac--lied (Gen. 26:6-7 and attempted to sacrifice his wife to save
himself (Gen. 26:9);
Jacob--swindled Esau out of his birthright (Gen. 25:31-33 RSV), cheated
and lied (Gen. 27:19, 30:40-43 RSV) and lied to Rachel (Gen. 29:12);
Jehoida--ordered a murder (2 Kings 11:15-16 RSV);
Jehu--killed (Kings 9:24, 27, 10:11, 17), ordered killings (2 Kings 10:6-
7, 14, 25 RSV), and deceptively lied (2 Kings 10:18-19);
Jephthah--slaughtered people (Jud. 11:33), and killed his own daughter
(Jud. 11:39 RSV);
Jeremiah--lied (Jer. 38:24-27 NIV);
Joab--killed (2 Sam. 3:27, 18:14, 20:10);
Jonathan--killed (1 Sam. 14:13-14 NASB), and lied (1 Sam. 20:28);
Joseph--deceived his brothers (Gen. 42:7 NASB) and committed nepotism
(Gen. 47:11 RSV);
Joshua--killed and slaughtered without letup (Joshua 6:21, 8:25-28, 10:1,
20, 26-28, 30, 32-33, 35, 37, 39-41, 17-18, 21, 12:7), murdered prisoners
(Josh. 8:29), and hamstrung horses, (Josh. 11:9 RSV);
Laban--lied (Gen. 29:15) and deceived (Gen. 29:20-25);
Lot--offered his virgin daughters to a crowd (Gen. 19:8);
Samson--killed (Jud. 14:19, 15:8, 15), and had sex with a harlot (Jud.
16:1) and lied to Delilah (Jud. 16:10, 13),
Samuel--murdered (1 Sam. 15:33).
Abraham--told his wife to lie (Gen. 12:13), debauched Hagar, his
maidservant (Gen. 16:4), sent his maidservant and her child into the
wilderness (Gen. 21:14), lied (Gen. 20:2), and married his half-sister
(Gen. 20:11-12);
Saul--used his daughters as a snare (1 Sam. 8:20-21 NIV), ordered
gambling (1 Sam. 14:42), killed (1 Sam. 15:7-8, 20, 22:18-21), stripped
himself and acted unstable (1Sam. 19:24), admitted he sinned, played the
fool and erred (1 Sam.26:21), gave David's wife to another man (1 Sam.
25:44), and transgressed God by consulting a medium and being unfaithful
(1 Chron. 10:13-14 RSV)
Solomon--ordered murders (1 Kings 2:25 RSV, 2:34, 46), tried to kill
Jeroboam (1 Kings 11:40), enslaved people (1 Kings 9:21 RSV), did not
keep God's statutes or covenant (1 Kings 11:11 RSV), did evil (1 Kings
11:6), and lied to his mother (1 Kings 2:20-21 RSV, 2:25).
2 Chron. 30:16 Moses
was the Man of God; yet, he... murdered an Egyptian (Ex. 2:12), ordered
an armed attack (Num. 31:3, 6), ordered the murder of prisoners (Num.
31:17), ordered the keeping of young female prisoners for several
reasons (Num. 31:17), led mass killings of women and children (Deut.
2:34, 3:3, 6), ordered killings (Deut. 13:15, 20:13), blasphemously wrote
he was a greater prophet than Jesus (Deut. 34:10 NASB), had a son out of
wedlock (Ex. 2:21-22), and was excluded by God from Canaan for four
different reasons:
unbelief (Num 20:12),
rebellion (Num. 27:12-14 RSV),
trespassing (Deut. 13:51-52),
and rash words (Psalm 106:32-33 NIV).
David never doing evil (1 Sam. 25:28), following God fully (1Kings 11:6),
being an angel of God(2 Sam. 19:27), keeping his commandments of
God (1 Kings 3:14), and having a perfect heart with the Lord (1 Kings
15:3)
David version 2.
He killed (1 Sam. 17:50-51 RSV, 18:7, 27, 19:8, 23:5, 30:17, 2 Sam. 8:1,
2, 5, 13),
ordered murders (2 Sam. 1:15, 4:5-12),
ordered prisoners to be killed (2 Sam. 12:2931, 1 Chron. 20:3, 2 Sam.
8:1-2),
committed unprovoked aggression and mass killing (1 Sam. 27:8-11, 2 Sam.
5:20, 25),
gave up seven of Saul's descendants to be killed (2 Sam. 21:1-6, 9),
requested that Joab be killed (1 Kings 2:5-6),
intentionally arranged for Uriah to be killed in order to seize his wife
(2 Sam. 11:14-17),
displeased the Lord (2 Sam. 11:26-27),
impregnated another man's wife, committing adultery in the process (2
Sam. 11:2-5), wasn't allowed to build God's house because he was a man of
war and bloodshed (1 Chron. 22:7-8),
lied (1 Sam. 21:1-2, 27:8-10),
told Jonathan to lie (1 Sam. 20:5-6),
admitted he sinned by taking a census (2 Sam. 24:10, 17, 1 Chron. 21: 8,
17)
committed extortion (1 Sam. 25:2-8),
prophesied incorrectly in his heart (1 Sam. 27:1),
sent out a spy (2 Sam. 16:36),
hamstrung horses (2 Sam. 8:4),
locked up 10 concubines for life for no apparent reason (2 Sam. 20:3),
committed bigamy (2 Sam. 3:2-3),
committed polygamy (2 Sam. 5:12),
despised the word of the Lord (2 Sam. 12: 9-11),
admitted he sinned by causing Uriah's death and taking his wife (2 Sam.
12:13-14),
and exposed himself like a pervert (2 Sam. 6:20).
news:a717f9da-ca2e-4e6f...@m10g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
> On Jan 2, 6:23�am, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>> "Colanth" <cola...@pern.invalid> wrote in message
>>
>> news:qni2g7939tsjjeuhs...@4ax.com...
Translation for zachy, this means you screwed up in public, still or
again, & I chose to point it out. This is not an invittion to
conversation, simply an acknowlegmet of your les than adequate knowledge
of your mythology.
>> And no, I wasn't huffing bug spray at the time I talked to JC.
>
> Did anyone imply you were?
>
>> And the
>> Bible is more evidence that Jesus Christ existed.
>
> Is it?
>
>> There were 4 Gospels
>> written independently that all mention the life of Jesus Christ.
four in the Catholic version. The Catholic version, why yes. Protestism
is catholosim light. With many of the same misconceptions as the
catholic claim to shame.
walksaone who does understand the self imposed limitations that those
like zachy impose on themselves once they reach the age of learning.
Sad, but for blind luck I could have been just as brain dead about the
boogymen humanity has burdened itself with.
Wanna get right with god, LLC. the following are those that found favor,
but try it today & go to prison.
Absalom--ordered killings (2 Sam. 13:28-29 RSV) and had sex in the open
(2 Sam. 16:22 RSV);
Amon--raped his sister, Tamar (2 Sam. 13:11-14 RSV);
Abimelech--killed a city's inhabitants (Jud. 9:45 RSV); and murdered
wantonly (Jud. 9:5);
Ehud--murdered king Eglon (Jud. 3:21-22 RSV);
Elijah--committed murder (1 Kings 18:40);
Elisha--lied (2 Kings 6:19), told a man a lie (2 Kings 8:10 RSV), cursed
42 small boys to be torn apart for mocking his bald head (2 Kings 2:23-24
RSV);
Gideon--killed (Jud. 8:16:17 the Living Bible), murdered prisoners (Jud.
8:21 RSV), engaged in polygamy (Jud. 8:30);
Issac--lied (Gen. 26:6-7 and attempted to sacrifice his wife to save
himself (Gen. 26:9);
Jacob--swindled Esau out of his birthright (Gen. 25:31-33 RSV), cheated
and lied (Gen. 27:19, 30:40-43 RSV) and lied to Rachel (Gen. 29:12);
Jehoida--ordered a murder (2 Kings 11:15-16 RSV);
Jehu--killed (Kings 9:24, 27, 10:11, 17), ordered killings (2 Kings 10:6-
7, 14, 25 RSV), and deceptively lied (2 Kings 10:18-19);
Jephthah--slaughtered people (Jud. 11:33), and killed his own daughter
(Jud. 11:39 RSV);
Jeremiah--lied (Jer. 38:24-27 NIV);
Joab--killed (2 Sam. 3:27, 18:14, 20:10);
Jonathan--killed (1 Sam. 14:13-14 NASB), and lied (1 Sam. 20:28);
Joseph--deceived his brothers (Gen. 42:7 NASB) and committed nepotism
(Gen. 47:11 RSV);
Joshua--killed and slaughtered without letup (Joshua 6:21, 8:25-28, 10:1,
20, 26-28, 30, 32-33, 35, 37, 39-41, 17-18, 21, 12:7), murdered prisoners
(Josh. 8:29), and hamstrung horses, (Josh. 11:9 RSV);
Laban--lied (Gen. 29:15) and deceived (Gen. 29:20-25);
Lot--offered his virgin daughters to a crowd (Gen. 19:8);
Samson--killed (Jud. 14:19, 15:8, 15), and had sex with a harlot (Jud.
16:1) and lied to Delilah (Jud. 16:10, 13),
Samuel--murdered (1 Sam. 15:33).
Abraham--told his wife to lie (Gen. 12:13), debauched Hagar, his
maidservant (Gen. 16:4), sent his maidservant and her child into the
wilderness (Gen. 21:14), lied (Gen. 20:2), and married his half-sister
(Gen. 20:11-12);
Saul--used his daughters as a snare (1 Sam. 8:20-21 NIV), ordered
gambling (1 Sam. 14:42), killed (1 Sam. 15:7-8, 20, 22:18-21), stripped
himself and acted unstable (1Sam. 19:24), admitted he sinned, played the
fool and erred (1 Sam.26:21), gave David's wife to another man (1 Sam.
25:44), and transgressed God by consulting a medium and being unfaithful
(1 Chron. 10:13-14 RSV)
Solomon--ordered murders (1 Kings 2:25 RSV, 2:34, 46), tried to kill
Jeroboam (1 Kings 11:40), enslaved people (1 Kings 9:21 RSV), did not
keep God's statutes or covenant (1 Kings 11:11 RSV), did evil (1 Kings
11:6), and lied to his mother (1 Kings 2:20-21 RSV, 2:25).
2 Chron. 30:16 Moses
was the Man of God; yet, he... murdered an Egyptian (Ex. 2:12), ordered
an armed attack (Num. 31:3, 6), ordered the murder of prisoners (Num.
31:17), ordered the keeping of young female prisoners for several
reasons (Num. 31:17), led mass killings of women and children (Deut.
2:34, 3:3, 6), ordered killings (Deut. 13:15, 20:13), blasphemously wrote
he was a greater prophet than Jesus (Deut. 34:10 NASB), had a son out of
wedlock (Ex. 2:21-22), and was excluded by God from Canaan for four
different reasons:
unbelief (Num 20:12),
rebellion (Num. 27:12-14 RSV),
trespassing (Deut. 13:51-52),
and rash words (Psalm 106:32-33 NIV).
David never doing evil (1 Sam. 25:28), following God fully (1Kings 11:6),
being an angel of God(2 Sam. 19:27), keeping his commandments of
God (1 Kings 3:14), and having a perfect heart with the Lord (1 Kings
15:3)
David version 2.
He killed (1 Sam. 17:50-51 RSV, 18:7, 27, 19:8, 23:5, 30:17, 2 Sam. 8:1,
2, 5, 13),
ordered murders (2 Sam. 1:15, 4:5-12),
ordered prisoners to be killed (2 Sam. 12:2931, 1 Chron. 20:3, 2 Sam.
8:1-2),
committed unprovoked aggression and mass killing (1 Sam. 27:8-11, 2 Sam.
5:20, 25),
gave up seven of Saul's descendants to be killed (2 Sam. 21:1-6, 9),
requested that Joab be killed (1 Kings 2:5-6),
intentionally arranged for Uriah to be killed in order to seize his wife
(2 Sam. 11:14-17),
displeased the Lord (2 Sam. 11:26-27),
impregnated another man's wife, committing adultery in the process (2
Sam. 11:2-5), wasn't allowed to build God's house because he was a man of
war and bloodshed (1 Chron. 22:7-8),
lied (1 Sam. 21:1-2, 27:8-10),
told Jonathan to lie (1 Sam. 20:5-6),
admitted he sinned by taking a census (2 Sam. 24:10, 17, 1 Chron. 21: 8,
17)
committed extortion (1 Sam. 25:2-8),
prophesied incorrectly in his heart (1 Sam. 27:1),
sent out a spy (2 Sam. 16:36),
hamstrung horses (2 Sam. 8:4),
locked up 10 concubines for life for no apparent reason (2 Sam. 20:3),
committed bigamy (2 Sam. 3:2-3),
committed polygamy (2 Sam. 5:12),
despised the word of the Lord (2 Sam. 12: 9-11),
admitted he sinned by causing Uriah's death and taking his wife (2 Sam.
12:13-14),
and exposed himself like a pervert (2 Sam. 6:20).
Budikka666
Jan 2, 2012, 7:58:32 AM1/2/12
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On Jan 1, 5:44 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
There's no need to refute something which has yet to be established.
Why don't you post your best five items of evidence that there
actually was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god and I will
refute them? Note that you cannot use the Bible to establish that
there was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god since it's the
Bible stories which are the very thing which is in question. You need
independent objective evidence. Got that?. Go ahead, I'll wait.
Budikka
Why don't you post your best five items of evidence that there
actually was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god and I will
refute them? Note that you cannot use the Bible to establish that
there was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god since it's the
Bible stories which are the very thing which is in question. You need
independent objective evidence. Got that?. Go ahead, I'll wait.
Budikka
Budikka666
Jan 2, 2012, 8:00:30 AM1/2/12
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Budikka666
Jan 2, 2012, 8:06:52 AM1/2/12
to
>
> read more »
I once again crossed the street and went the extra mile and YOU FLED.
Three times in one day! lol!
Keep running chickenshit for Christ.
Budikka
Zacharias Mulletstein
Jan 2, 2012, 10:26:26 AM1/2/12
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news:07caff37-4819-490e...@d9g2000yqg.googlegroups.com...
Jesus was documented by FOUR separate Gospels, written independently. And I
know you won't consider this evidence, but I have spoken to JC many times.
And no, I wasn't high on bug spray when I talked to him. Believe what you
want to, but I know the truth.
know you won't consider this evidence, but I have spoken to JC many times.
And no, I wasn't high on bug spray when I talked to him. Believe what you
want to, but I know the truth.
Zacharias Mulletstein
Jan 2, 2012, 10:31:19 AM1/2/12
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"Loirbaj" <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote in message
news:a67caad9-8577-4e86...@t16g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
> The archive is clear, Ian Wood. You first claimed
> to want to debate and then you FLED Mulletstein.
> Exactly as you did with Andrew, with Me, with
> Dr.K.Hovind, with Duke, with AllSeeing, with US4Z.
> Have you NO decency, sir?
I defeated Buddakkakke just as I defeat everybody I face. Me, Jesus Christ,
> to want to debate and then you FLED Mulletstein.
> Exactly as you did with Andrew, with Me, with
> Dr.K.Hovind, with Duke, with AllSeeing, with US4Z.
> Have you NO decency, sir?
Pantera, and my real Telecaster are unstoppable.
Free Lunch
Jan 2, 2012, 10:37:30 AM1/2/12
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On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 09:26:26 -0600, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
College?
>And I know you won't consider this evidence, but I have spoken to JC many times.
Anyone can claim to talk to Jesus, no one can show that they ever
received an answer.
>And no, I wasn't high on bug spray when I talked to him. Believe what you
>want to, but I know the truth.
You know you are a silly goose.
<zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>
>"Budikka666" <budi...@netscape.net> wrote in message
>news:07caff37-4819-490e...@d9g2000yqg.googlegroups.com...
...
>"Budikka666" <budi...@netscape.net> wrote in message
>news:07caff37-4819-490e...@d9g2000yqg.googlegroups.com...
>> There's no need to refute something which has yet to be established.
>> Why don't you post your best five items of evidence that there
>> actually was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god and I will
>> refute them? Note that you cannot use the Bible to establish that
>> there was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god since it's the
>> Bible stories which are the very thing which is in question. You need
>> independent objective evidence. Got that?. Go ahead, I'll wait.
>
>Jesus was documented by FOUR separate Gospels, written independently.
No, they were not. Ddin't anyone teach you anything at Brainless Bible
>> Why don't you post your best five items of evidence that there
>> actually was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god and I will
>> refute them? Note that you cannot use the Bible to establish that
>> there was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god since it's the
>> Bible stories which are the very thing which is in question. You need
>> independent objective evidence. Got that?. Go ahead, I'll wait.
>
>Jesus was documented by FOUR separate Gospels, written independently.
College?
>And I know you won't consider this evidence, but I have spoken to JC many times.
received an answer.
>And no, I wasn't high on bug spray when I talked to him. Believe what you
>want to, but I know the truth.
Devils Advocaat
Jan 2, 2012, 11:06:24 AM1/2/12
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On Jan 2, 3:26 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
Written decades after the vents thy allegedly describe.
> And I
> know you won't consider this evidence, but I have spoken to JC many times.
Subjective experiences are not reliable evidence.
> And no, I wasn't high on bug spray when I talked to him.
Why raise an issue only to deny it?
After all no one has suggested you were.
> Believe what you
> want to, but I know the truth.
You only believe you know.
You have no evidence.
> And I
> know you won't consider this evidence, but I have spoken to JC many times.
> And no, I wasn't high on bug spray when I talked to him.
After all no one has suggested you were.
> Believe what you
> want to, but I know the truth.
You have no evidence.
ken
Jan 2, 2012, 11:23:52 AM1/2/12
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On Jan 1, 10:23 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
"A very strong case can be made that many of the steadfastly-
religiously-convinced are actually mentally ill. The pleasant
escape from reality that they so often indulge in is no
more than the escape psychotics experience when they seek
refuge from reality in a delusional dreamworld of imaginary
beliefs."
That quote sure has you pegged!
> > ZACHY! You know better. It's the existentially POSITIVE claim that
> > requires evidence. (Err ... that would be yours - so we await your
> > evidence. Lines in a flatbread don't count.)
>
> I know Jesus Christ is real because I've had numerous conversations with
> him. Now I know you won't accept that as evidence, but I know what I saw.
Like I said: INSANE....BAT POOP KrAzY
> > requires evidence. (Err ... that would be yours - so we await your
> > evidence. Lines in a flatbread don't count.)
>
> I know Jesus Christ is real because I've had numerous conversations with
> him. Now I know you won't accept that as evidence, but I know what I saw.
"A very strong case can be made that many of the steadfastly-
religiously-convinced are actually mentally ill. The pleasant
escape from reality that they so often indulge in is no
more than the escape psychotics experience when they seek
refuge from reality in a delusional dreamworld of imaginary
beliefs."
That quote sure has you pegged!
Budikka666
Jan 2, 2012, 12:31:57 PM1/2/12
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On Jan 2, 9:26 am, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
constitutes denying Christ once.
You clearly are too stupid to grasp the bit about not using the Bible
to verify itself, aren't you?
You're aware, are you not, that there were scores of gospels, nearly
all of which the "official" church considered to be too wacky to
include in the Bible, and therefore spent centuries suppressing them,
and hunting them down and destroying them because they were far too
embarrassing to even pretend they were true?
You're aware, are you not, that we have no idea who actually wrote the
gospels nor how reliable or trustworthy they were, nor what their
agenda was?
You're aware, are you not, that the gospels directly contradict and
refute one another?
You're aware, are you not, that the prophecy in those four gospels
which is crucial to Christianity and which was supposedly made by
Jesus himself, has been irrefutably falsified?
You're aware, are you not, that not one of the gospels is an eye-
witness account?
You're aware, are you not, that the gospels we have today were written
decades after the purported events they relate?
You're aware, are you not, that we have not one original gospel, and
that, therefore, we have no idea what those originals said?
You're aware, are you not, that two of the gospels are plagiarized
from other material, including one of the other two gospels and are,
therefore self-admitted forgeries?
You're aware, are you not, that the earliest writings on this topic
were not the four gospels you worship, but the letters ascribed to
Paul (who himself may not even have existed), a good number of which
are demonstrated forgeries, and not one of which talks about Jesus
like he was a real person?
You're aware, are you not, that this means that the earliest "record"
we have of this supposed character already treats him as a myth?
> know you won't consider this evidence, but I have spoken to JC many times.
Your failure to support these fables with independent evidence
constitutes denying Christ twice.
What ****OBJECTIVE**** evidence do you have that it was Jesus Christ,
miracle-working son of a god you spoke to? Otherwise you're just
hearing voices, aren't you? That's a well-understood medical
condition for which you should seek professional treatment. You seem
to forget that there are many cases, all-too-many, of people killing
or seeking to kill their children because "god told them to". The
Bible has several such instances. Why on Earth would anyone in their
right mind want to base their lives on voices in your head?
So are you now prepared to honestly admit that you **cannot** produce
independent, objective evidence to verify any of the supernatural
elements in the Bible? You've already given us a de facto admission
of this.
Budikka
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> "Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> "Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> >> Now post evidence that Jesus Christ never existed here:
>
> > There's no need to refute something which has yet to be established.
> > Why don't you post your best five items of evidence that there
> > actually was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god and I will
> > refute them? Note that you cannot use the Bible to establish that
> > there was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god since it's the
> > Bible stories which are the very thing which is in question. You need
> > independent objective evidence. Got that?. Go ahead, I'll wait.
>
> Jesus was documented by FOUR separate Gospels, written independently.
Your failure to support these fables with independent evidence
>
> > There's no need to refute something which has yet to be established.
> > Why don't you post your best five items of evidence that there
> > actually was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god and I will
> > refute them? Note that you cannot use the Bible to establish that
> > there was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god since it's the
> > Bible stories which are the very thing which is in question. You need
> > independent objective evidence. Got that?. Go ahead, I'll wait.
>
> Jesus was documented by FOUR separate Gospels, written independently.
constitutes denying Christ once.
You clearly are too stupid to grasp the bit about not using the Bible
to verify itself, aren't you?
You're aware, are you not, that there were scores of gospels, nearly
all of which the "official" church considered to be too wacky to
include in the Bible, and therefore spent centuries suppressing them,
and hunting them down and destroying them because they were far too
embarrassing to even pretend they were true?
You're aware, are you not, that we have no idea who actually wrote the
gospels nor how reliable or trustworthy they were, nor what their
agenda was?
You're aware, are you not, that the gospels directly contradict and
refute one another?
You're aware, are you not, that the prophecy in those four gospels
which is crucial to Christianity and which was supposedly made by
Jesus himself, has been irrefutably falsified?
You're aware, are you not, that not one of the gospels is an eye-
witness account?
You're aware, are you not, that the gospels we have today were written
decades after the purported events they relate?
You're aware, are you not, that we have not one original gospel, and
that, therefore, we have no idea what those originals said?
You're aware, are you not, that two of the gospels are plagiarized
from other material, including one of the other two gospels and are,
therefore self-admitted forgeries?
You're aware, are you not, that the earliest writings on this topic
were not the four gospels you worship, but the letters ascribed to
Paul (who himself may not even have existed), a good number of which
are demonstrated forgeries, and not one of which talks about Jesus
like he was a real person?
You're aware, are you not, that this means that the earliest "record"
we have of this supposed character already treats him as a myth?
> know you won't consider this evidence, but I have spoken to JC many times.
constitutes denying Christ twice.
What ****OBJECTIVE**** evidence do you have that it was Jesus Christ,
miracle-working son of a god you spoke to? Otherwise you're just
hearing voices, aren't you? That's a well-understood medical
condition for which you should seek professional treatment. You seem
to forget that there are many cases, all-too-many, of people killing
or seeking to kill their children because "god told them to". The
Bible has several such instances. Why on Earth would anyone in their
right mind want to base their lives on voices in your head?
So are you now prepared to honestly admit that you **cannot** produce
independent, objective evidence to verify any of the supernatural
elements in the Bible? You've already given us a de facto admission
of this.
Budikka
Andrew
Jan 2, 2012, 12:53:18 PM1/2/12
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"Budikka666" wrote in message news:609641c8-6335-49a7...@v14g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> So are you now prepared to honestly admit that you **cannot** produce
> independent, objective evidence to verify any of the supernatural
> elements in the Bible? You've already given us a de facto admission
> of this.
>
> Budikka
How can you honestly ask such a question if
you are not willing to follow the instructions
to find the answer?
"And you will seek Me and find Me, when you
search for Me with all your heart, and I will
be found by you saith the LORD."
~ Jeremiah 29:13,14 ~
If you do this, you WILL find God.
He is the One who loves you.
> So are you now prepared to honestly admit that you **cannot** produce
> independent, objective evidence to verify any of the supernatural
> elements in the Bible? You've already given us a de facto admission
> of this.
>
> Budikka
you are not willing to follow the instructions
to find the answer?
"And you will seek Me and find Me, when you
search for Me with all your heart, and I will
be found by you saith the LORD."
~ Jeremiah 29:13,14 ~
If you do this, you WILL find God.
He is the One who loves you.
Christopher A. Lee
Jan 2, 2012, 1:05:23 PM1/2/12
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On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 09:53:18 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote:
>"Budikka666" wrote in message news:609641c8-6335-49a7...@v14g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>
>> So are you now prepared to honestly admit that you **cannot** produce
>> independent, objective evidence to verify any of the supernatural
>> elements in the Bible? You've already given us a de facto admission
>> of this.
>>
>> Budikka
>
>How can you honestly ask such a question if
>you are not willing to follow the instructions
>to find the answer?
You know perfectly well it's not for her but for YOU, to get you to
shut the fuck up when it finally penetrates into your room temperature
IQ that you can't put up,
>"And you will seek Me and find Me, when you
> search for Me with all your heart, and I will
> be found by you saith the LORD."
> ~ Jeremiah 29:13,14 ~
In other words you already not just have to believe, but also believe
you will find something.
What kind of fucking moron cites the Bible as "proof" of anything in
the real world outside his religion?
Let alone AT atheists and non-Christian theists?
>If you do this, you WILL find God.
Where did you demonstrate there was any God to be looked for let
alone found, mindless retard?
>He is the One who loves you.
Unlike Budikka and the rest of us here are loved by real people.
Unlike you we're so not pitifully inadequate we need to invent pretend
friends to love us.
Why aren't you in the psych ward getting treated for your serious
mental illness?
wrote:
>"Budikka666" wrote in message news:609641c8-6335-49a7...@v14g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>
>> So are you now prepared to honestly admit that you **cannot** produce
>> independent, objective evidence to verify any of the supernatural
>> elements in the Bible? You've already given us a de facto admission
>> of this.
>>
>> Budikka
>
>How can you honestly ask such a question if
>you are not willing to follow the instructions
>to find the answer?
shut the fuck up when it finally penetrates into your room temperature
IQ that you can't put up,
>"And you will seek Me and find Me, when you
> search for Me with all your heart, and I will
> be found by you saith the LORD."
> ~ Jeremiah 29:13,14 ~
you will find something.
What kind of fucking moron cites the Bible as "proof" of anything in
the real world outside his religion?
Let alone AT atheists and non-Christian theists?
>If you do this, you WILL find God.
alone found, mindless retard?
>He is the One who loves you.
Unlike you we're so not pitifully inadequate we need to invent pretend
friends to love us.
Why aren't you in the psych ward getting treated for your serious
mental illness?
Budikka666
Jan 2, 2012, 1:02:00 PM1/2/12
to
1. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours
exists
2. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours is
the only deity there is
3. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours
created the universe and life on Earth
4. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours is
not a figment of your imagination
You've been running from this since at least May 2011. Why are you
running Andy-Pandy? Why are you so terrified of standing up for your
god? is it because you know just as well as we do that there's no
such god?
Budikka
exists
2. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours is
the only deity there is
3. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours
created the universe and life on Earth
4. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours is
not a figment of your imagination
You've been running from this since at least May 2011. Why are you
running Andy-Pandy? Why are you so terrified of standing up for your
god? is it because you know just as well as we do that there's no
such god?
Budikka
harry k
Jan 2, 2012, 12:29:52 PM1/2/12
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On Jan 1, 10:23 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> "Colanth" <cola...@pern.invalid> wrote in message
Hearing voice and talking to invisible beings are a sure sign that one
needs professional help.
Harry K
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> "Colanth" <cola...@pern.invalid> wrote in message
needs professional help.
Harry K
Zacharias Mulletstein
Jan 2, 2012, 3:04:54 PM1/2/12
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"Devils Advocaat" <manky...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:518697d0-50ff-4d5d...@dp8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
pop athiests wouldn't question it.
news:518697d0-50ff-4d5d...@dp8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>> > There's no need to refute something which has yet to be established.
>> > Why don't you post your best five items of evidence that there
>> > actually was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god and I will
>> > refute them? Note that you cannot use the Bible to establish that
>> > there was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god since it's the
>> > Bible stories which are the very thing which is in question. You need
>> > independent objective evidence. Got that?. Go ahead, I'll wait.
>>
>> Jesus was documented by FOUR separate Gospels, written independently.
>
> Written decades after the vents thy allegedly describe.
So? If a witness to the JFK assassination wrote a book today about it, you
>> > Why don't you post your best five items of evidence that there
>> > actually was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god and I will
>> > refute them? Note that you cannot use the Bible to establish that
>> > there was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god since it's the
>> > Bible stories which are the very thing which is in question. You need
>> > independent objective evidence. Got that?. Go ahead, I'll wait.
>>
>> Jesus was documented by FOUR separate Gospels, written independently.
>
> Written decades after the vents thy allegedly describe.
pop athiests wouldn't question it.
Zacharias Mulletstein
Jan 2, 2012, 3:15:42 PM1/2/12
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"Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net> wrote in message
news:SaedndNFia1yc5zS...@earthlink.com...
because of this. If she simply searched for Him, she would easily find Him.
But she has blocked her heart to God and therefore she will never find him.
God is outside the realm of science and evidence, and you will never find
Him using scientific methods. Just like you can't use a yardstick for
measuring weight, you can't measure Jesus Christ using science.
> He is the One who loves you.
ken
Jan 2, 2012, 3:31:50 PM1/2/12
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On Jan 2, 12:15 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> --
> I am a Fundamentalist Fool..
Yeah we know
Remember Zac...that suicide is painless
it brings on many changes
and you can take or leave it if you please
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> --
> I am a Fundamentalist Fool..
Yeah we know
Remember Zac...that suicide is painless
it brings on many changes
and you can take or leave it if you please
Colanth
Jan 2, 2012, 4:21:58 PM1/2/12
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On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 00:23:17 -0600, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
Julius Caesar, so I guess Julie's still alive too.
> Now I know you won't accept that as evidence
Sure I do - that you talk to someone. Not that the "person" you talk
to actually exists, though. Because it's not.
>but I know what I saw.
>And no, I wasn't huffing bug spray at the time I talked to JC.
Huffing nerve poison (that's what bug spray is) destroys your brain.
Since that's permanent, you don't have to be huffing to be delusional
- it becomes part of you.
>And the Bible is more evidence that Jesus Christ existed.
No, Zachy - and you already know that a book isn't evidence that
what's in the book is true.
>There were 4 Gospels written independently
Sorry, no. If you want to discuss Christianity, as least learn enough
about it that you don't sound like someone reading a bad script.
> that all mention the life of Jesus Christ.
There are dozens of independently written books that mention Superman,
James T. Kirk, Harry Potter ... and none of them actually exist. The
fact that your book is your book doesn't make it any different than a
Superman comic book.
If you
>can't accept that as evidence, then you just hate God and don't want him to
>exist.
--
�No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says: He is always
convinced that it says what he means� - George Bernard Shaw
<zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>"Colanth" <col...@pern.invalid> wrote in message
>news:qni2g7939tsjjeuhs...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 17:44:50 -0600, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
>> <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Now post evidence that Jesus Christ never existed here:
>>
>> ZACHY! You know better. It's the existentially POSITIVE claim that
>> requires evidence. (Err ... that would be yours - so we await your
>> evidence. Lines in a flatbread don't count.)
>
>I know Jesus Christ is real because I've had numerous conversations with
>him.
There's this guy at the local rubber hotel who has conversations with
>"Colanth" <col...@pern.invalid> wrote in message
>news:qni2g7939tsjjeuhs...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 17:44:50 -0600, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
>> <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Now post evidence that Jesus Christ never existed here:
>>
>> ZACHY! You know better. It's the existentially POSITIVE claim that
>> requires evidence. (Err ... that would be yours - so we await your
>> evidence. Lines in a flatbread don't count.)
>
>I know Jesus Christ is real because I've had numerous conversations with
>him.
Julius Caesar, so I guess Julie's still alive too.
> Now I know you won't accept that as evidence
to actually exists, though. Because it's not.
>but I know what I saw.
>And no, I wasn't huffing bug spray at the time I talked to JC.
Since that's permanent, you don't have to be huffing to be delusional
- it becomes part of you.
>And the Bible is more evidence that Jesus Christ existed.
what's in the book is true.
>There were 4 Gospels written independently
about it that you don't sound like someone reading a bad script.
> that all mention the life of Jesus Christ.
James T. Kirk, Harry Potter ... and none of them actually exist. The
fact that your book is your book doesn't make it any different than a
Superman comic book.
If you
>can't accept that as evidence, then you just hate God and don't want him to
>exist.
--
convinced that it says what he means� - George Bernard Shaw
Colanth
Jan 2, 2012, 4:29:54 PM1/2/12
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On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 08:23:52 -0800 (PST), ken <flak...@att.net>
wrote:
And it's not from sole atheist they can disagree with, it's from the
Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders - the book
psychiatrists use to diagnose mental illness.
--
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good
things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do
evil things, that takes religion." - Steven Weinberg, quoted in The
New York Times, April 20, 1999
wrote:
Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders - the book
psychiatrists use to diagnose mental illness.
--
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good
things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do
evil things, that takes religion." - Steven Weinberg, quoted in The
New York Times, April 20, 1999
Jeanne Douglas
Jan 2, 2012, 5:21:31 PM1/2/12
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In article <jdt2li$d8e$1...@dont-email.me>,
"Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com>
wrote:
We most certainly WOULD question it, if it contained no evidence.
--
JD
"the lybian lier"
"Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com>
wrote:
--
JD
"the lybian lier"
Devils Advocaat
Jan 2, 2012, 5:23:18 PM1/2/12
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On Jan 2, 8:04 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> "Devils Advocaat" <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
written by eyewitnesses.
One of the key reasons for that being that these so-called eyewitness
accounts contradict each other on key points.
By the way, are you always in the habit of making erroneous
assumptions about another person's beliefs?
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> "Devils Advocaat" <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:518697d0-50ff-4d5d...@dp8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > There's no need to refute something which has yet to be established.
> >> > Why don't you post your best five items of evidence that there
> >> > actually was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god and I will
> >> > refute them? Note that you cannot use the Bible to establish that
> >> > there was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god since it's the
> >> > Bible stories which are the very thing which is in question. You need
> >> > independent objective evidence. Got that?. Go ahead, I'll wait.
>
> >> Jesus was documented by FOUR separate Gospels, written independently.
>
> > Written decades after the vents thy allegedly describe.
>
> So? If a witness to the JFK assassination wrote a book today about it, you
> pop athiests wouldn't question it.
There are biblical scholars who doubt the gospels were actually
> news:518697d0-50ff-4d5d...@dp8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > There's no need to refute something which has yet to be established.
> >> > Why don't you post your best five items of evidence that there
> >> > actually was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god and I will
> >> > refute them? Note that you cannot use the Bible to establish that
> >> > there was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god since it's the
> >> > Bible stories which are the very thing which is in question. You need
> >> > independent objective evidence. Got that?. Go ahead, I'll wait.
>
> >> Jesus was documented by FOUR separate Gospels, written independently.
>
> > Written decades after the vents thy allegedly describe.
>
> So? If a witness to the JFK assassination wrote a book today about it, you
> pop athiests wouldn't question it.
written by eyewitnesses.
One of the key reasons for that being that these so-called eyewitness
accounts contradict each other on key points.
By the way, are you always in the habit of making erroneous
assumptions about another person's beliefs?
Colanth
Jan 2, 2012, 5:43:02 PM1/2/12
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>"Budikka666" wrote in message news:609641c8-6335-49a7...@v14g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>
>> So are you now prepared to honestly admit that you **cannot** produce
>> independent, objective evidence to verify any of the supernatural
>> elements in the Bible? You've already given us a de facto admission
>> of this.
>>
>> Budikka
>
>How can you honestly ask such a question if
>you are not willing to follow the instructions
>to find the answer?
The only "instructions" for objective evidence is that YOU have to
>
>> So are you now prepared to honestly admit that you **cannot** produce
>> independent, objective evidence to verify any of the supernatural
>> elements in the Bible? You've already given us a de facto admission
>> of this.
>>
>> Budikka
>
>How can you honestly ask such a question if
>you are not willing to follow the instructions
>to find the answer?
PRODUCE it. But, once more, you give us a de facto admission that you
can't. (You can't redefine what "objective evidence" means - which is
what you did in this post.)
--
A hundred thousand lemmings can't all be wrong - or can they?
Colanth
Jan 2, 2012, 6:00:56 PM1/2/12
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On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 09:31:19 -0600, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>"Loirbaj" <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote in message
>news:a67caad9-8577-4e86...@t16g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
>> The archive is clear, Ian Wood. You first claimed
>> to want to debate and then you FLED Mulletstein.
>> Exactly as you did with Andrew, with Me, with
>> Dr.K.Hovind, with Duke, with AllSeeing, with US4Z.
>> Have you NO decency, sir?
>
>I defeated Buddakkakke just as I defeat everybody I face.
That's as true as a girl telling you to go fuck yourself is an offer
<zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>"Loirbaj" <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote in message
>news:a67caad9-8577-4e86...@t16g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
>> The archive is clear, Ian Wood. You first claimed
>> to want to debate and then you FLED Mulletstein.
>> Exactly as you did with Andrew, with Me, with
>> Dr.K.Hovind, with Duke, with AllSeeing, with US4Z.
>> Have you NO decency, sir?
>
>I defeated Buddakkakke just as I defeat everybody I face.
of sex.
--
"I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: 'O Lord
make my enemies ridiculous.' And God granted it." - Voltaire
Budikka
Jan 2, 2012, 6:28:33 PM1/2/12
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On Jan 2, 2:04 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> "Devils Advocaat" <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
completely lost on you. Why is that not a surprise? But once again:
you demanded a debate, so why are you RUNNING from my complete
destruction of your feeble claims about the gospels?
Budikka
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> "Devils Advocaat" <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:518697d0-50ff-4d5d...@dp8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > There's no need to refute something which has yet to be established.
> >> > Why don't you post your best five items of evidence that there
> >> > actually was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god and I will
> >> > refute them? Note that you cannot use the Bible to establish that
> >> > there was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god since it's the
> >> > Bible stories which are the very thing which is in question. You need
> >> > independent objective evidence. Got that?. Go ahead, I'll wait.
>
> >> Jesus was documented by FOUR separate Gospels, written independently.
>
> > Written decades after the vents thy allegedly describe.
>
> So? If a witness to the JFK assassination wrote a book today about it, you
> pop athiests wouldn't question it.
I see that the concept of "independent objective evidence" is
> news:518697d0-50ff-4d5d...@dp8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > There's no need to refute something which has yet to be established.
> >> > Why don't you post your best five items of evidence that there
> >> > actually was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god and I will
> >> > refute them? Note that you cannot use the Bible to establish that
> >> > there was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god since it's the
> >> > Bible stories which are the very thing which is in question. You need
> >> > independent objective evidence. Got that?. Go ahead, I'll wait.
>
> >> Jesus was documented by FOUR separate Gospels, written independently.
>
> > Written decades after the vents thy allegedly describe.
>
> So? If a witness to the JFK assassination wrote a book today about it, you
> pop athiests wouldn't question it.
completely lost on you. Why is that not a surprise? But once again:
you demanded a debate, so why are you RUNNING from my complete
destruction of your feeble claims about the gospels?
Budikka
Budikka
Jan 2, 2012, 6:34:23 PM1/2/12
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On Jan 2, 2:15 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
openly admit doesn't exist? I mean if it did exist and you *honestly*
wanted us to find it, you would both have provided the evidence we
requested. Your failure to do this is your unconditional admission
that there is no such evidence and therefore there is no such entity
as this god or this Jesus. In short, your position is exactly the
same as ours! lol!
But think on this: even if everything you've been LYING about were not
the tissue of lies it so obviously is, why would *anyone* in their
right mind even *want* to spend ***ETERNITY***y with loser numbnuts
lying hypocritical cowardly lame-brained jackasses like you?
Seriously? I;'d *rather* go to Hell than spend eternity with scum
like you Usenet theists.
Budikka
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> This is true. Buddikka only wants to reject God and she will never find him
Why would I go looking for something that even you and Andrew-a-Blank
> This is true. Buddikka only wants to reject God and she will never find him
openly admit doesn't exist? I mean if it did exist and you *honestly*
wanted us to find it, you would both have provided the evidence we
requested. Your failure to do this is your unconditional admission
that there is no such evidence and therefore there is no such entity
as this god or this Jesus. In short, your position is exactly the
same as ours! lol!
But think on this: even if everything you've been LYING about were not
the tissue of lies it so obviously is, why would *anyone* in their
right mind even *want* to spend ***ETERNITY***y with loser numbnuts
lying hypocritical cowardly lame-brained jackasses like you?
Seriously? I;'d *rather* go to Hell than spend eternity with scum
like you Usenet theists.
Budikka
Andrew
Jan 2, 2012, 6:57:34 PM1/2/12
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Budikka" wrote in message news:da6c1b20-fc72-4834...@v13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> Why would I go looking for something that even you and Andrew-a-Blank
> openly admit doesn't exist? I mean if it did exist and you *honestly*
> wanted us to find it, you would both have provided the evidence we
> requested.
>
> Your failure to do this is your unconditional admission that there
> is no such evidence and therefore there is no such entity as this god
> or this Jesus.
Here is positive evidence right here. If you do this, you *WILL* find
God.
"And you will seek Me and find Me, when you
search for Me with all your heart, and I will
be found by you saith the LORD."
~ Jeremiah 29:13,14 ~
He IS very real, and He is the One who loves you.
> Seriously? I;'d *rather* go to Hell than spend eternity with scum
> like you Usenet theists.
Don't worry. God is love, and will not force anyone to share
eternal happiness and the glories of eternity with Him.
>
> Budikka
>
>
Andrew
> Why would I go looking for something that even you and Andrew-a-Blank
> openly admit doesn't exist? I mean if it did exist and you *honestly*
> wanted us to find it, you would both have provided the evidence we
> requested.
>
> Your failure to do this is your unconditional admission that there
> is no such evidence and therefore there is no such entity as this god
> or this Jesus.
God.
"And you will seek Me and find Me, when you
search for Me with all your heart, and I will
be found by you saith the LORD."
~ Jeremiah 29:13,14 ~
> Seriously? I;'d *rather* go to Hell than spend eternity with scum
> like you Usenet theists.
eternal happiness and the glories of eternity with Him.
>
> Budikka
>
>
Andrew
Budikka666
Jan 2, 2012, 7:07:21 PM1/2/12
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You cretinist liars really don't get "independent objective evidence"
do you? Go look it up in a *dictionary* (it's OK to get a grown-up to
help) and then try again you pathetic, disseminating little hypocrite
of a coward.
1. Demonstrate with ***OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE*** that this deity of yours
exists
2. Demonstrate with ***OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE*** that this deity of yours
do you? Go look it up in a *dictionary* (it's OK to get a grown-up to
help) and then try again you pathetic, disseminating little hypocrite
of a coward.
1. Demonstrate with ***OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE*** that this deity of yours
exists
2. Demonstrate with ***OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE*** that this deity of yours
is the only deity there is
3. Demonstrate with ***OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE*** that this deity of yours
created the universe and life on Earth
4. Demonstrate with ***OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE*** that this deity of yours
is not a figment of your imagination
You've been running from this since at least May 2011. Why are you
running Andrew-a-Blank? Why are you so terrified of standing up for
You've been running from this since at least May 2011. Why are you
Ralph
Jan 2, 2012, 7:15:26 PM1/2/12
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God is all powerful.
God is all loving.
There is suffering.
Christopher A. Lee
Jan 2, 2012, 7:29:40 PM1/2/12
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On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:57:34 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote:
>Budikka" wrote in message news:da6c1b20-fc72-4834...@v13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Why would I go looking for something that even you and Andrew-a-Blank
>> openly admit doesn't exist? I mean if it did exist and you *honestly*
>> wanted us to find it, you would both have provided the evidence we
>> requested.
>>
>> Your failure to do this is your unconditional admission that there
>> is no such evidence and therefore there is no such entity as this god
>> or this Jesus.
>
>Here is positive evidence right here. If you do this, you *WILL* find
Where, proven serial liar?
> God.
>
> "And you will seek Me and find Me, when you
> search for Me with all your heart, and I will
> be found by you saith the LORD."
What the fuck has the Bible got to do wit anything, pathological
narcissist?
> ~ Jeremiah 29:13,14 ~
>
>He IS very real, and He is the One who loves you.
SO PROVE IT, serial liar.
>> Seriously? I;'d *rather* go to Hell than spend eternity with scum
>> like you Usenet theists.
>
>Don't worry. God
Assumes "fact" not in evidence, idiot.
> is love,
So what word do you use for the emotion you feel towards your wife and
family, imbecile?
> and will not force anyone to share
>eternal happiness and the glories of eternity with Him.
Idiot.
wrote:
>Budikka" wrote in message news:da6c1b20-fc72-4834...@v13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Why would I go looking for something that even you and Andrew-a-Blank
>> openly admit doesn't exist? I mean if it did exist and you *honestly*
>> wanted us to find it, you would both have provided the evidence we
>> requested.
>>
>> Your failure to do this is your unconditional admission that there
>> is no such evidence and therefore there is no such entity as this god
>> or this Jesus.
>
>Here is positive evidence right here. If you do this, you *WILL* find
> God.
>
> "And you will seek Me and find Me, when you
> search for Me with all your heart, and I will
> be found by you saith the LORD."
narcissist?
> ~ Jeremiah 29:13,14 ~
>
>He IS very real, and He is the One who loves you.
>> Seriously? I;'d *rather* go to Hell than spend eternity with scum
>> like you Usenet theists.
>
>Don't worry. God
> is love,
So what word do you use for the emotion you feel towards your wife and
family, imbecile?
> and will not force anyone to share
>eternal happiness and the glories of eternity with Him.
bpuharic
Jan 2, 2012, 7:43:21 PM1/2/12
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Free Lunch
Jan 2, 2012, 9:26:32 PM1/2/12
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On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:57:34 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>Budikka" wrote in message news:da6c1b20-fc72-4834...@v13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Why would I go looking for something that even you and Andrew-a-Blank
>> openly admit doesn't exist? I mean if it did exist and you *honestly*
>> wanted us to find it, you would both have provided the evidence we
>> requested.
>>
>> Your failure to do this is your unconditional admission that there
>> is no such evidence and therefore there is no such entity as this god
>> or this Jesus.
>
>Here is positive evidence right here. If you do this, you *WILL* find
>
> God.
>
> "And you will seek Me and find Me, when you
> search for Me with all your heart, and I will
> be found by you saith the LORD."
>
> ~ Jeremiah 29:13,14 ~
demonstrated errors.
>He IS very real, and He is the One who loves you.
>
>> Seriously? I;'d *rather* go to Hell than spend eternity with scum
>> like you Usenet theists.
>
>Don't worry. God is love, and will not force anyone to share
>eternal happiness and the glories of eternity with Him.
Free Lunch
Jan 2, 2012, 9:29:44 PM1/2/12
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On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:15:26 -0500, Ralph <mmma...@yahoo.com> wrote in
alt.talk.creationism:
Just because theists like Andrew cannot deal with the problem of evil
does not mean that they will acknowledge that they cannot deal with the
problem of evil.
alt.talk.creationism:
does not mean that they will acknowledge that they cannot deal with the
problem of evil.
ken
Jan 2, 2012, 9:32:20 PM1/2/12
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On Jan 2, 9:29 am, harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 1, 10:23 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
--
> On Jan 1, 10:23 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> > I am a Fundamentalist Fundy Fool
>
> Hearing voice and talking to invisible beings are a sure sign that one
> needs professional help.
>
> Harry K
Not to mention EST and anti-psychotic medications
> Hearing voice and talking to invisible beings are a sure sign that one
> needs professional help.
>
> Harry K
Loirbaj
Jan 2, 2012, 9:47:30 PM1/2/12
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The archive is clear, Ian Wood. You first claimed
to want to debate and then you FLED Mulletstein.
Exactly as you did with Andrew, with Me, with
Dr.K.Hovind, with Duke, with AllSeeing, with US4Z.
Have you NO decency, sir?
ZMulletstein said,
to want to debate and then you FLED Mulletstein.
Exactly as you did with Andrew, with Me, with
Dr.K.Hovind, with Duke, with AllSeeing, with US4Z.
Have you NO decency, sir?
I defeated Budikka because he would not
attend the same challenge that he issued to me.
Every chance given, he simply fled into the night.
BroilJAB said,
That is Ian Wood's pattern, to be certain.
Andrew
Jan 2, 2012, 9:51:52 PM1/2/12
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"Budikka666" wrote in message news:b5757b42-8db4-4c71...@32g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...
> You cretinist liars really don't get "independent objective evidence"
> do you? Go look it up in a *dictionary* (it's OK to get a grown-up to
> help) and then try again you pathetic, disseminating little hypocrite
> of a coward.
>
> 1. Demonstrate with ***OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE*** that this deity of yours
> exists
>
> 2. Demonstrate with ***OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE*** that this deity of yours
> is the only deity there is
>
> 3. Demonstrate with ***OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE*** that this deity of yours
> created the universe and life on Earth
>
> 4. Demonstrate with ***OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE*** that this deity of yours
> is not a figment of your imagination
Why do you want to know? Please.
> do you? Go look it up in a *dictionary* (it's OK to get a grown-up to
> help) and then try again you pathetic, disseminating little hypocrite
> of a coward.
>
> 1. Demonstrate with ***OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE*** that this deity of yours
> exists
>
> 2. Demonstrate with ***OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE*** that this deity of yours
> is the only deity there is
>
> 3. Demonstrate with ***OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE*** that this deity of yours
> created the universe and life on Earth
>
> 4. Demonstrate with ***OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE*** that this deity of yours
> is not a figment of your imagination
Andrew
Jan 2, 2012, 9:53:13 PM1/2/12
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"Ralph" wrote in message news:KKGdnf_7lvED1Z_S...@giganews.com...
> Andrew wrote:
There will be no suffering, sorrow, sickness
pain or death throughout the future ages of
eternity.
> Andrew wrote:
>> "Budikka666" wrote:
>>> So are you now prepared to honestly admit that you **cannot** produce
>>> independent, objective evidence to verify any of the supernatural
>>> elements in the Bible? You've already given us a de facto admission
>>> of this.
>>>
>>> Budikka
>>
>> How can you honestly ask such a question if
>> you are not willing to follow the instructions
>> to find the answer?
>>
>> "And you will seek Me and find Me, when you
>> search for Me with all your heart, and I will
>> be found by you saith the LORD."
>> ~ Jeremiah 29:13,14 ~
>>
>> If you do this, you WILL find God.
>>
>> He is the One who loves you.
>> ------
>>> So are you now prepared to honestly admit that you **cannot** produce
>>> independent, objective evidence to verify any of the supernatural
>>> elements in the Bible? You've already given us a de facto admission
>>> of this.
>>>
>>> Budikka
>>
>> How can you honestly ask such a question if
>> you are not willing to follow the instructions
>> to find the answer?
>>
>> "And you will seek Me and find Me, when you
>> search for Me with all your heart, and I will
>> be found by you saith the LORD."
>> ~ Jeremiah 29:13,14 ~
>>
>> If you do this, you WILL find God.
>>
>> He is the One who loves you.
>
> Say Andrew, did you ever find the answer to this:
>
> God is all powerful.
>
> God is all loving.
>
> There is suffering.
There is suffering now, because of the Fall.
> Say Andrew, did you ever find the answer to this:
>
> God is all powerful.
>
> God is all loving.
>
> There is suffering.
There will be no suffering, sorrow, sickness
pain or death throughout the future ages of
eternity.
huge
Jan 2, 2012, 9:55:10 PM1/2/12
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Some people are actually interested in the way the world works.
Jeanne Douglas
Jan 2, 2012, 10:09:14 PM1/2/12
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In article <8eqdnSjaApDM2Z_S...@earthlink.com>,
"Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net> wrote:
> Budikka" wrote in message
> news:da6c1b20-fc72-4834...@v13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Why would I go looking for something that even you and Andrew-a-Blank
> > openly admit doesn't exist? I mean if it did exist and you *honestly*
> > wanted us to find it, you would both have provided the evidence we
> > requested.
> >
> > Your failure to do this is your unconditional admission that there
> > is no such evidence and therefore there is no such entity as this god
> > or this Jesus.
>
> Here is positive evidence right here. If you do this, you *WILL* find
>
> God.
>
> "And you will seek Me and find Me, when you
> search for Me with all your heart, and I will
> be found by you saith the LORD."
>
> ~ Jeremiah 29:13,14 ~
How is that evidence?
> Budikka" wrote in message
> news:da6c1b20-fc72-4834...@v13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Why would I go looking for something that even you and Andrew-a-Blank
> > openly admit doesn't exist? I mean if it did exist and you *honestly*
> > wanted us to find it, you would both have provided the evidence we
> > requested.
> >
> > Your failure to do this is your unconditional admission that there
> > is no such evidence and therefore there is no such entity as this god
> > or this Jesus.
>
> Here is positive evidence right here. If you do this, you *WILL* find
>
> God.
>
> "And you will seek Me and find Me, when you
> search for Me with all your heart, and I will
> be found by you saith the LORD."
>
> ~ Jeremiah 29:13,14 ~
Andrew
Jan 2, 2012, 10:13:21 PM1/2/12
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"huge" wrote in message news:fsWdncj0ad6T85_S...@earthlink.com...
> Andrew wrote:
the way the world works? And she thinks I have the answers?
Thanks.
> Andrew wrote:
>> "Budikka666" wrote:
>>> You cretinist liars really don't get "independent objective evidence"
>>> do you? Go look it up in a *dictionary* (it's OK to get a grown-up to
>>> help) and then try again you pathetic, disseminating little hypocrite
>>> of a coward.
>>>
>>> 1. Demonstrate with ***OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE*** that this deity of yours
>>> exists
>>>
>>> 2. Demonstrate with ***OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE*** that this deity of yours
>>> is the only deity there is
>>>
>>> 3. Demonstrate with ***OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE*** that this deity of yours
>>> created the universe and life on Earth
>>>
>>> 4. Demonstrate with ***OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE*** that this deity of yours
>>> is not a figment of your imagination
>>
>> Why do you want to know? Please.
>>
> That very well sums up you, Andrew. Don't ask. Don't tell. Don't bother.
>
> Some people are actually interested in the way the world works.
So you think Budikka is asking because she wants to know
>>> You cretinist liars really don't get "independent objective evidence"
>>> do you? Go look it up in a *dictionary* (it's OK to get a grown-up to
>>> help) and then try again you pathetic, disseminating little hypocrite
>>> of a coward.
>>>
>>> 1. Demonstrate with ***OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE*** that this deity of yours
>>> exists
>>>
>>> 2. Demonstrate with ***OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE*** that this deity of yours
>>> is the only deity there is
>>>
>>> 3. Demonstrate with ***OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE*** that this deity of yours
>>> created the universe and life on Earth
>>>
>>> 4. Demonstrate with ***OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE*** that this deity of yours
>>> is not a figment of your imagination
>>
>> Why do you want to know? Please.
>>
> That very well sums up you, Andrew. Don't ask. Don't tell. Don't bother.
>
> Some people are actually interested in the way the world works.
the way the world works? And she thinks I have the answers?
Thanks.
Christopher A. Lee
Jan 2, 2012, 10:30:30 PM1/2/12
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On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 19:13:21 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote:
What a fucking moron. A liar as well as an idiot.
>Thanks.
>
>
wrote:
>Thanks.
>
>
Christopher A. Lee
Jan 2, 2012, 10:29:57 PM1/2/12
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On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 18:51:52 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote:
Look up "begging the question", imbecile.
What part of PUT UP OR SHUT UP are you pretending you are too stupid
to understand?
wrote:
What part of PUT UP OR SHUT UP are you pretending you are too stupid
to understand?
Yap
Jan 2, 2012, 11:10:29 PM1/2/12
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On Jan 2, 11:31 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> "Loirbaj" <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote in message
>
> news:a67caad9-8577-4e86...@t16g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
>
> Pantera, and my real Telecaster are unstoppable.
You and Liarbag are the shameless bigots here, lying through your bad
teeth.
>
> --
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> "Loirbaj" <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote in message
>
> news:a67caad9-8577-4e86...@t16g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
>
> > The archive is clear, Ian Wood. You first claimed
> > to want to debate and then you FLED Mulletstein.
> > Exactly as you did with Andrew, with Me, with
> > Dr.K.Hovind, with Duke, with AllSeeing, with US4Z.
> > Have you NO decency, sir?
>
> I defeated Buddakkakke just as I defeat everybody I face. Me, Jesus Christ,
> > to want to debate and then you FLED Mulletstein.
> > Exactly as you did with Andrew, with Me, with
> > Dr.K.Hovind, with Duke, with AllSeeing, with US4Z.
> > Have you NO decency, sir?
>
> Pantera, and my real Telecaster are unstoppable.
You and Liarbag are the shameless bigots here, lying through your bad
teeth.
>
> --
John Baker
Jan 2, 2012, 11:43:41 PM1/2/12
to
you can't.
>
>Thanks.
Don't mention it.
>
>
Zacharias Mulletstein
Jan 3, 2012, 1:00:19 AM1/3/12
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"Yap" <hhya...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jan 2, 11:31 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>> "Loirbaj" <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:a67caad9-8577-4e86...@t16g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > The archive is clear, Ian Wood. You first claimed
>> > to want to debate and then you FLED Mulletstein.
>> > Exactly as you did with Andrew, with Me, with
>> > Dr.K.Hovind, with Duke, with AllSeeing, with US4Z.
>> > Have you NO decency, sir?
>>
>> I defeated Buddakkakke just as I defeat everybody I face. Me, Jesus
>> Christ,
>> Pantera, and my real Telecaster are unstoppable.
>
> You and Liarbag are the shameless bigots here, lying through your bad
> teeth.
How am I a bigot, pop athiest?
> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>> "Loirbaj" <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:a67caad9-8577-4e86...@t16g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > The archive is clear, Ian Wood. You first claimed
>> > to want to debate and then you FLED Mulletstein.
>> > Exactly as you did with Andrew, with Me, with
>> > Dr.K.Hovind, with Duke, with AllSeeing, with US4Z.
>> > Have you NO decency, sir?
>>
>> I defeated Buddakkakke just as I defeat everybody I face. Me, Jesus
>> Christ,
>> Pantera, and my real Telecaster are unstoppable.
>
> You and Liarbag are the shameless bigots here, lying through your bad
> teeth.
Zacharias Mulletstein
Jan 3, 2012, 1:12:02 AM1/3/12
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"ken" <flak...@att.net> wrote in message
news:10dea7f1-3465-47f3...@32g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 2, 12:15 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>> --
>> I am a Fundamentalist Fool..
>
> Yeah we know
>
> Remember Zac...that suicide is painless
> it brings on many changes
> and you can take or leave it if you please
My, how "moral" of you. Typical pop athiest morality.
Zacharias Mulletstein
Jan 3, 2012, 1:15:13 AM1/3/12
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"Budikka" <budi...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> On Jan 2, 2:15 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>> This is true. Buddikka only wants to reject God and she will never find
>> him
>
> Why would I go looking for something that even you and Andrew-a-Blank
> openly admit doesn't exist? I mean if it did exist and you *honestly*
> wanted us to find it, you would both have provided the evidence we
> requested. Your failure to do this is your unconditional admission
> that there is no such evidence and therefore there is no such entity
> as this god or this Jesus. In short, your position is exactly the
> same as ours! lol!
The evidence is in your heart. But your heart is cold and black as pitch
> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>> This is true. Buddikka only wants to reject God and she will never find
>> him
>
> Why would I go looking for something that even you and Andrew-a-Blank
> openly admit doesn't exist? I mean if it did exist and you *honestly*
> wanted us to find it, you would both have provided the evidence we
> requested. Your failure to do this is your unconditional admission
> that there is no such evidence and therefore there is no such entity
> as this god or this Jesus. In short, your position is exactly the
> same as ours! lol!
and you won't accept the evidence that is found within your own body.
Trying to find Jesus Christ with the five senses is like drinking a song or
hearing a rainbow. You must find him with your heart.
> But think on this: even if everything you've been LYING about were not
> the tissue of lies it so obviously is, why would *anyone* in their
> right mind even *want* to spend ***ETERNITY***y with loser numbnuts
> lying hypocritical cowardly lame-brained jackasses like you?
> Seriously? I;'d *rather* go to Hell than spend eternity with scum
> like you Usenet theists.
hell. And I will be helping Jesus Christ, Pantera, Satan, Dimebag, Terry
Jones, and Adolf Hitler torment you for all eternity. And I will be
laughing at your pain, and deriving great power from your insanity. And
I'll be screaming "I told you so pop athiest Bukkakke" in your ears so loud
that your eardrums will rupture.
Zacharias Mulletstein
Jan 3, 2012, 1:18:30 AM1/3/12
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"John Baker" <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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Zacharias Mulletstein
Jan 3, 2012, 1:16:49 AM1/3/12
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"Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net> wrote in message
news:J-adnZUOSPy18J_S...@earthlink.com...
Zacharias Mulletstein
Jan 3, 2012, 1:17:29 AM1/3/12
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"Christopher A. Lee" <ca...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Zacharias Mulletstein
Jan 3, 2012, 1:22:24 AM1/3/12
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"Ralph" <mmma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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demand of him. Remember, he was defeated by chariots of iron in the Bible.
Quit demanding so much out of God because you hate him so much.
Zacharias Mulletstein
Jan 3, 2012, 1:21:02 AM1/3/12
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"Christopher A. Lee" <ca...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:9pi4g7d4m26d63agt...@4ax.com...
>
>> God.
>>
>> "And you will seek Me and find Me, when you
>> search for Me with all your heart, and I will
>> be found by you saith the LORD."
>
> What the fuck has the Bible got to do wit anything, pathological
> narcissist?
It has the fuck to do with everything, pop athiest meanie. It is the Sword
>> God.
>>
>> "And you will seek Me and find Me, when you
>> search for Me with all your heart, and I will
>> be found by you saith the LORD."
>
> What the fuck has the Bible got to do wit anything, pathological
> narcissist?
of the Lord and the answer to every question you can possibly ever have can
be found in It.
>>He IS very real, and He is the One who loves you.
>
> SO PROVE IT, serial liar.
animals do. Hell, even plants hate Chris Lee. The cedar tree in my yard
hates him. He's the meanest person on earth, and he makes Hitler and Stalin
look like nice guys. Luckily, he doesn't have the power of Hitler or Stalin
or he would carve the earth up with his giant talons.
Zacharias Mulletstein
Jan 3, 2012, 1:24:15 AM1/3/12
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"Jeanne Douglas" <hlw...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote in message
news:hlwdjsd-60B103...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com...
> In article <jdt2li$d8e$1...@dont-email.me>,
> "Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "Devils Advocaat" <manky...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:518697d0-50ff-4d5d...@dp8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>> >> > There's no need to refute something which has yet to be established.
>> >> > Why don't you post your best five items of evidence that there
>> >> > actually was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god and I will
>> >> > refute them? Note that you cannot use the Bible to establish that
>> >> > there was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god since it's
>> >> > the
>> >> > Bible stories which are the very thing which is in question. You
>> >> > need
>> >> > independent objective evidence. Got that?. Go ahead, I'll wait.
>> >>
>> >> Jesus was documented by FOUR separate Gospels, written independently.
>> >
>> > Written decades after the vents thy allegedly describe.
>>
>> So? If a witness to the JFK assassination wrote a book today about it,
>> you
>> pop athiests wouldn't question it.
>
> We most certainly WOULD question it, if it contained no evidence.
Eyewitness testimony is indeed evidence. How do you know JFK didn't survive
the shooting? There is no evidence besides the words of others. Hell,
there's no evidence that Ronald Reagan survived his assassination and wasn't
replaced by a lookalike just like Paul McCartney was replaced in the
Beatles.
Zacharias Mulletstein
Jan 3, 2012, 1:29:17 AM1/3/12
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news:181c8b58-c9c3-49ca...@m4g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 2, 8:04 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>> "Devils Advocaat" <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> written by eyewitnesses.
And there are Biblical scholars who hate God and would do anything to
discredit Jesus Christ.
> On Jan 2, 8:04 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>> "Devils Advocaat" <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:518697d0-50ff-4d5d...@dp8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > There's no need to refute something which has yet to be established.
>> >> > Why don't you post your best five items of evidence that there
>> >> > actually was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god and I will
>> >> > refute them? Note that you cannot use the Bible to establish that
>> >> > there was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god since it's
>> >> > the
>> >> > Bible stories which are the very thing which is in question. You
>> >> > need
>> >> > independent objective evidence. Got that?. Go ahead, I'll wait.
>>
>> >> Jesus was documented by FOUR separate Gospels, written independently.
>>
>> > Written decades after the vents thy allegedly describe.
>>
>> So? If a witness to the JFK assassination wrote a book today about it,
>> you
>> pop athiests wouldn't question it.
>
> There are biblical scholars who doubt the gospels were actually
>> news:518697d0-50ff-4d5d...@dp8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > There's no need to refute something which has yet to be established.
>> >> > Why don't you post your best five items of evidence that there
>> >> > actually was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god and I will
>> >> > refute them? Note that you cannot use the Bible to establish that
>> >> > there was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god since it's
>> >> > the
>> >> > Bible stories which are the very thing which is in question. You
>> >> > need
>> >> > independent objective evidence. Got that?. Go ahead, I'll wait.
>>
>> >> Jesus was documented by FOUR separate Gospels, written independently.
>>
>> > Written decades after the vents thy allegedly describe.
>>
>> So? If a witness to the JFK assassination wrote a book today about it,
>> you
>> pop athiests wouldn't question it.
>
> written by eyewitnesses.
And there are Biblical scholars who hate God and would do anything to
discredit Jesus Christ.
Zacharias Mulletstein
Jan 3, 2012, 1:30:06 AM1/3/12
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news:1c953bf7-98a9-439d...@f33g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 2, 2:04 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> completely lost on you. Why is that not a surprise? But once again:
> you demanded a debate, so why are you RUNNING from my complete
> destruction of your feeble claims about the gospels?
You're the one who ran from my debate challenge. So here goes again. The
question is: is Pentecostalism a force of good or bad in the world? You go
first.
> On Jan 2, 2:04 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>> "Devils Advocaat" <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:518697d0-50ff-4d5d...@dp8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > There's no need to refute something which has yet to be established.
>> >> > Why don't you post your best five items of evidence that there
>> >> > actually was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god and I will
>> >> > refute them? Note that you cannot use the Bible to establish that
>> >> > there was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god since it's
>> >> > the
>> >> > Bible stories which are the very thing which is in question. You
>> >> > need
>> >> > independent objective evidence. Got that?. Go ahead, I'll wait.
>>
>> >> Jesus was documented by FOUR separate Gospels, written independently.
>>
>> > Written decades after the vents thy allegedly describe.
>>
>> So? If a witness to the JFK assassination wrote a book today about it,
>> you
>> pop athiests wouldn't question it.
>
> I see that the concept of "independent objective evidence" is
>> "Devils Advocaat" <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:518697d0-50ff-4d5d...@dp8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > There's no need to refute something which has yet to be established.
>> >> > Why don't you post your best five items of evidence that there
>> >> > actually was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god and I will
>> >> > refute them? Note that you cannot use the Bible to establish that
>> >> > there was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god since it's
>> >> > the
>> >> > Bible stories which are the very thing which is in question. You
>> >> > need
>> >> > independent objective evidence. Got that?. Go ahead, I'll wait.
>>
>> >> Jesus was documented by FOUR separate Gospels, written independently.
>>
>> > Written decades after the vents thy allegedly describe.
>>
>> So? If a witness to the JFK assassination wrote a book today about it,
>> you
>> pop athiests wouldn't question it.
>
> completely lost on you. Why is that not a surprise? But once again:
> you demanded a debate, so why are you RUNNING from my complete
> destruction of your feeble claims about the gospels?
You're the one who ran from my debate challenge. So here goes again. The
question is: is Pentecostalism a force of good or bad in the world? You go
first.
Jeanne Douglas
Jan 3, 2012, 2:35:14 AM1/3/12
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In article <jdu6ur$vsl$1...@dont-email.me>,
Pretty much the worst evidence there is, barely a step above hearsay.
Without confirmation, it's not to be trusted.
>How do you know JFK didn't survive
> the shooting? There is no evidence besides the words of others.
Except for that autopsy. And the photos. And all the other evidence.
> Hell,
> there's no evidence that Ronald Reagan survived his assassination and wasn't
> replaced by a lookalike just like Paul McCartney was replaced in the
> Beatles.
Now, you're just getting silly.
Without confirmation, it's not to be trusted.
>How do you know JFK didn't survive
> the shooting? There is no evidence besides the words of others.
> Hell,
> there's no evidence that Ronald Reagan survived his assassination and wasn't
> replaced by a lookalike just like Paul McCartney was replaced in the
> Beatles.
Zacharias Mulletstein
Jan 3, 2012, 3:15:21 AM1/3/12
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"Jeanne Douglas" <hlw...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote in message
>> Hell,
>> there's no evidence that Ronald Reagan survived his assassination and
>> wasn't
>> replaced by a lookalike just like Paul McCartney was replaced in the
>> Beatles.
>
> Now, you're just getting silly.
Free Lunch
Jan 3, 2012, 4:06:52 AM1/3/12
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On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 00:12:02 -0600, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>
>
>"ken" <flak...@att.net> wrote in message
>news:10dea7f1-3465-47f3...@32g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jan 2, 12:15 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
>> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>>> --
>>> I am a Fundamentalist Fool..
>>
>> Yeah we know
>>
>> Remember Zac...that suicide is painless
>> it brings on many changes
>> and you can take or leave it if you please
>
>My, how "moral" of you. Typical pop athiest morality.
Your apparent ignorance of the song being quoted and the context shows
how much of a fool you are willing to make of yourself.
<zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>
>
>"ken" <flak...@att.net> wrote in message
>news:10dea7f1-3465-47f3...@32g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jan 2, 12:15 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
>> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>>> --
>>> I am a Fundamentalist Fool..
>>
>> Yeah we know
>>
>> Remember Zac...that suicide is painless
>> it brings on many changes
>> and you can take or leave it if you please
>
>My, how "moral" of you. Typical pop athiest morality.
how much of a fool you are willing to make of yourself.
Free Lunch
Jan 3, 2012, 4:07:57 AM1/3/12
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On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 18:51:52 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
imaginary. If it is not imaginary, why can you not provide evidence for
it?
Free Lunch
Jan 3, 2012, 4:10:08 AM1/3/12
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On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 00:18:30 -0600, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>
>
Your conclusion shows that you have no Christian love. Why should
someone have to believe in a god just because someone else insists that
such a god exists (and by the way, you will go to hell if you don't
believe what I tell you even though I cannot back up a single word I say
about this)?
<zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>
>
someone have to believe in a god just because someone else insists that
such a god exists (and by the way, you will go to hell if you don't
believe what I tell you even though I cannot back up a single word I say
about this)?
Free Lunch
Jan 3, 2012, 4:08:34 AM1/3/12
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On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 19:13:21 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
up your claims. Can you?
Free Lunch
Jan 3, 2012, 4:12:22 AM1/3/12
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On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 18:53:13 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>"Ralph" wrote in message news:KKGdnf_7lvED1Z_S...@giganews.com...
>> Andrew wrote:
>>> "Budikka666" wrote:
>>>> So are you now prepared to honestly admit that you **cannot** produce
>>>> independent, objective evidence to verify any of the supernatural
>>>> elements in the Bible? You've already given us a de facto admission
>>>> of this.
>>>>
>>>> Budikka
>>>
>>> How can you honestly ask such a question if
>>> you are not willing to follow the instructions
>>> to find the answer?
>>>
>>> "And you will seek Me and find Me, when you
>>> search for Me with all your heart, and I will
>>> be found by you saith the LORD."
>>> ~ Jeremiah 29:13,14 ~
>>>
>>> If you do this, you WILL find God.
>>>
>>> He is the One who loves you.
>>> ------
>>
>> Say Andrew, did you ever find the answer to this:
>>
>> God is all powerful.
>>
>> God is all loving.
>>
>> There is suffering.
>
>There is suffering now, because of the Fall.
So God's Creation was defective, causing the Fall. God had a temper
tantrum because His toys didn't do what he wanted, so he got mad and
made life miserable for everyone. The doctrine of Original Sin is a
doctrine that says God is a nasty, evil god.
>There will be no suffering, sorrow, sickness
>pain or death throughout the future ages of
>eternity.
Why should we believe that? When did God repent of His evil ways?
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>"Ralph" wrote in message news:KKGdnf_7lvED1Z_S...@giganews.com...
>> Andrew wrote:
>>> "Budikka666" wrote:
>>>> So are you now prepared to honestly admit that you **cannot** produce
>>>> independent, objective evidence to verify any of the supernatural
>>>> elements in the Bible? You've already given us a de facto admission
>>>> of this.
>>>>
>>>> Budikka
>>>
>>> How can you honestly ask such a question if
>>> you are not willing to follow the instructions
>>> to find the answer?
>>>
>>> "And you will seek Me and find Me, when you
>>> search for Me with all your heart, and I will
>>> be found by you saith the LORD."
>>> ~ Jeremiah 29:13,14 ~
>>>
>>> If you do this, you WILL find God.
>>>
>>> He is the One who loves you.
>>> ------
>>
>> Say Andrew, did you ever find the answer to this:
>>
>> God is all powerful.
>>
>> God is all loving.
>>
>> There is suffering.
>
>There is suffering now, because of the Fall.
tantrum because His toys didn't do what he wanted, so he got mad and
made life miserable for everyone. The doctrine of Original Sin is a
doctrine that says God is a nasty, evil god.
>There will be no suffering, sorrow, sickness
>pain or death throughout the future ages of
>eternity.
Free Lunch
Jan 3, 2012, 4:13:03 AM1/3/12
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On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 00:30:06 -0600, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>
>
Compared with what?
>You go first.
<zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>
>
>You go first.
Chris
Jan 3, 2012, 4:16:38 AM1/3/12
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On Jan 2, 10:26 am, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
about that subject line...
what's the problem? Is Christ lost? Doesn't Christ have a cell phone?
If not, Christ should seek out the nearest theme park employee and
explain the situation.
Chris
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
about that subject line...
what's the problem? Is Christ lost? Doesn't Christ have a cell phone?
If not, Christ should seek out the nearest theme park employee and
explain the situation.
Chris
Jeanne Douglas
Jan 3, 2012, 4:37:57 AM1/3/12
to
In article <jdudf5$pj4$1...@dont-email.me>,
Nonsense.
> >> Hell,
> >> there's no evidence that Ronald Reagan survived his assassination and
> >> wasn't
> >> replaced by a lookalike just like Paul McCartney was replaced in the
> >> Beatles.
> >
> > Now, you're just getting silly.
>
> Prove that I'm wrong.
I don't have to prove anything, since there's nothing TO prove. You made
allegations; it's your responsibility to provide the evidence when
someone requests it.
If you pull one of your silly tantrums instead of providing your
evidence, we'll all know you're lying or delusional--your pick.
> >> Hell,
> >> there's no evidence that Ronald Reagan survived his assassination and
> >> wasn't
> >> replaced by a lookalike just like Paul McCartney was replaced in the
> >> Beatles.
> >
> > Now, you're just getting silly.
>
> Prove that I'm wrong.
allegations; it's your responsibility to provide the evidence when
someone requests it.
If you pull one of your silly tantrums instead of providing your
evidence, we'll all know you're lying or delusional--your pick.
Devils Advocaat
Jan 3, 2012, 4:13:01 AM1/3/12
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On Jan 3, 6:18 am, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
Would you say that of Thomas Didymus?
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> "John Baker" <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote in message
>
> news:nq15g7trfcub7js3b...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 19:13:21 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net>
> "John Baker" <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote in message
>
> news:nq15g7trfcub7js3b...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
John Locke
Jan 3, 2012, 4:41:53 AM1/3/12
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On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 09:53:18 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote:
>"Budikka666" wrote in message news:609641c8-6335-49a7...@v14g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
and effectively dispel that godly love bullshit.
wrote:
>"Budikka666" wrote in message news:609641c8-6335-49a7...@v14g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>
>> So are you now prepared to honestly admit that you **cannot** produce
>> independent, objective evidence to verify any of the supernatural
>> elements in the Bible? You've already given us a de facto admission
>> of this.
>>
>> Budikka
>
>How can you honestly ask such a question if
>you are not willing to follow the instructions
>to find the answer?
>
>"And you will seek Me and find Me, when you
> search for Me with all your heart, and I will
> be found by you saith the LORD."
> ~ Jeremiah 29:13,14 ~
>
>If you do this, you WILL find God.
>
>He is the One who loves you.
>
..one visit to a children's cancer ward will immediately
>> So are you now prepared to honestly admit that you **cannot** produce
>> independent, objective evidence to verify any of the supernatural
>> elements in the Bible? You've already given us a de facto admission
>> of this.
>>
>> Budikka
>
>How can you honestly ask such a question if
>you are not willing to follow the instructions
>to find the answer?
>
>"And you will seek Me and find Me, when you
> search for Me with all your heart, and I will
> be found by you saith the LORD."
> ~ Jeremiah 29:13,14 ~
>
>If you do this, you WILL find God.
>
>He is the One who loves you.
>
and effectively dispel that godly love bullshit.
John Locke
Jan 3, 2012, 5:02:33 AM1/3/12
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On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 10:02:00 -0800 (PST), Budikka666
<budi...@netscape.net> wrote:
>1. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours
>exists
>
>2. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours is
>running Andy-Pandy? Why are you so terrified of standing up for your
>god? is it because you know just as well as we do that there's no
>such god?
>
..they know there's no god but their conditioned brains won't accept
it, so they continue, out of fear of retribution from their psycho
god, to substitute faith for reason in a delusional attempt to avoid
reality. Some recover from the affliction but most never will. It's a
disturbing enigma to behold.
<budi...@netscape.net> wrote:
>1. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours
>exists
>
>2. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours is
>the only deity there is
>
>3. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours
>
>created the universe and life on Earth
>
>4. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours is
>
>not a figment of your imagination
>
>You've been running from this since at least May 2011. Why are you
>
>running Andy-Pandy? Why are you so terrified of standing up for your
>god? is it because you know just as well as we do that there's no
>such god?
>
..they know there's no god but their conditioned brains won't accept
it, so they continue, out of fear of retribution from their psycho
god, to substitute faith for reason in a delusional attempt to avoid
reality. Some recover from the affliction but most never will. It's a
disturbing enigma to behold.
John Locke
Jan 3, 2012, 5:29:29 AM1/3/12
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On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:34:23 -0800 (PST), Budikka
<budi...@netscape.net> wrote:
>On Jan 2, 2:15 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
atheist with a bad comedy act having too much fun amusing himself with
bad parody. If Zacky joker actually believes that hell crap, then I'm
Shirley Temple singing Goodship Lollypop. He's about as close to
being a Christian as Genghis khan
<budi...@netscape.net> wrote:
>On Jan 2, 2:15 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
><zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>> This is true. Buddikka only wants to reject God and she will never find him
>
>Why would I go looking for something that even you and Andrew-a-Blank
>openly admit doesn't exist? I mean if it did exist and you *honestly*
>wanted us to find it, you would both have provided the evidence we
>requested. Your failure to do this is your unconditional admission
>that there is no such evidence and therefore there is no such entity
>as this god or this Jesus. In short, your position is exactly the
>same as ours! lol!
>
>> This is true. Buddikka only wants to reject God and she will never find him
>
>Why would I go looking for something that even you and Andrew-a-Blank
>openly admit doesn't exist? I mean if it did exist and you *honestly*
>wanted us to find it, you would both have provided the evidence we
>requested. Your failure to do this is your unconditional admission
>that there is no such evidence and therefore there is no such entity
>as this god or this Jesus. In short, your position is exactly the
>same as ours! lol!
>
>But think on this: even if everything you've been LYING about were not
>the tissue of lies it so obviously is, why would *anyone* in their
>right mind even *want* to spend ***ETERNITY***y with loser numbnuts
>lying hypocritical cowardly lame-brained jackasses like you?
>Seriously? I;'d *rather* go to Hell than spend eternity with scum
>like you Usenet theists.
>
..I think Zachy boy is just spoofing. He's most likely a wannabe
>the tissue of lies it so obviously is, why would *anyone* in their
>right mind even *want* to spend ***ETERNITY***y with loser numbnuts
>lying hypocritical cowardly lame-brained jackasses like you?
>Seriously? I;'d *rather* go to Hell than spend eternity with scum
>like you Usenet theists.
>
atheist with a bad comedy act having too much fun amusing himself with
bad parody. If Zacky joker actually believes that hell crap, then I'm
Shirley Temple singing Goodship Lollypop. He's about as close to
being a Christian as Genghis khan
bpuharic
Jan 3, 2012, 6:17:33 AM1/3/12
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On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:57:34 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote:
>Budikka" wrote in message news:da6c1b20-fc72-4834...@v13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> God.
i didnt know he was lost. does he have a GPS?
wrote:
>Budikka" wrote in message news:da6c1b20-fc72-4834...@v13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Why would I go looking for something that even you and Andrew-a-Blank
>> openly admit doesn't exist? I mean if it did exist and you *honestly*
>> wanted us to find it, you would both have provided the evidence we
>> requested.
>>
>> Your failure to do this is your unconditional admission that there
>> is no such evidence and therefore there is no such entity as this god
>> or this Jesus.
>
>Here is positive evidence right here. If you do this, you *WILL* find
>> Why would I go looking for something that even you and Andrew-a-Blank
>> openly admit doesn't exist? I mean if it did exist and you *honestly*
>> wanted us to find it, you would both have provided the evidence we
>> requested.
>>
>> Your failure to do this is your unconditional admission that there
>> is no such evidence and therefore there is no such entity as this god
>> or this Jesus.
>
>
> God.
i didnt know he was lost. does he have a GPS?
Don Martin
Jan 3, 2012, 7:07:02 AM1/3/12
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Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 2, 8:04 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> accounts contradict each other on key points.
>
> By the way, are you always in the habit of making erroneous
> assumptions about another person's beliefs?
Erroneous assumptions are his specialite d' maison.
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
The Squeeky Wheel: http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
> On Jan 2, 8:04 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>> "Devils Advocaat" <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:518697d0-50ff-4d5d...@dp8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> "Devils Advocaat" <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:518697d0-50ff-4d5d...@dp8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>>> There's no need to refute something which has yet to be established.
>>>>> Why don't you post your best five items of evidence that there
>>>>> actually was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god and I will
>>>>> refute them? Note that you cannot use the Bible to establish that
>>>>> there was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god since it's the
>>>>> Bible stories which are the very thing which is in question. You need
>>>>> independent objective evidence. Got that?. Go ahead, I'll wait.
>>
>>>> Jesus was documented by FOUR separate Gospels, written independently.
>>
>>> Written decades after the vents thy allegedly describe.
>>
>> So? If a witness to the JFK assassination wrote a book today about it, you
>> pop athiests wouldn't question it.
>
>>>>> Why don't you post your best five items of evidence that there
>>>>> actually was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god and I will
>>>>> refute them? Note that you cannot use the Bible to establish that
>>>>> there was a Jesus Christ, miracle-working son of a god since it's the
>>>>> Bible stories which are the very thing which is in question. You need
>>>>> independent objective evidence. Got that?. Go ahead, I'll wait.
>>
>>>> Jesus was documented by FOUR separate Gospels, written independently.
>>
>>> Written decades after the vents thy allegedly describe.
>>
>> So? If a witness to the JFK assassination wrote a book today about it, you
>> pop athiests wouldn't question it.
>
> There are biblical scholars who doubt the gospels were actually
> written by eyewitnesses.
>
> One of the key reasons for that being that these so-called eyewitness
> written by eyewitnesses.
>
> accounts contradict each other on key points.
>
> By the way, are you always in the habit of making erroneous
> assumptions about another person's beliefs?
Erroneous assumptions are his specialite d' maison.
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
The Squeeky Wheel: http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
The Magpie
Jan 3, 2012, 9:47:09 AM1/3/12
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> Budikka" wrote in message
> news:da6c1b20-fc72-4834...@v13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>> Why would I go looking for something that even you and
>> Andrew-a-Blank openly admit doesn't exist? I mean if it did
>> exist and you *honestly* wanted us to find it, you would both
>> have provided the evidence we requested.
>>
>> Your failure to do this is your unconditional admission that
>> there is no such evidence and therefore there is no such entity
>> as this god or this Jesus.
>
> Here is positive evidence right here. If you do this, you *WILL*
> find
>
> God.
>
>
So where is the evidence (hint - a book written and edited more than
three centuries after the events it alleges is not evidence).
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On 02/01/2012 23:57, Andrew wrote:
> Budikka" wrote in message
> news:da6c1b20-fc72-4834...@v13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>> Why would I go looking for something that even you and
>> Andrew-a-Blank openly admit doesn't exist? I mean if it did
>> exist and you *honestly* wanted us to find it, you would both
>> have provided the evidence we requested.
>>
>> Your failure to do this is your unconditional admission that
>> there is no such evidence and therefore there is no such entity
>> as this god or this Jesus.
>
> Here is positive evidence right here. If you do this, you *WILL*
> find
>
> God.
>
> "And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with
> all your heart, and I will be found by you saith the LORD."
>
> ~ Jeremiah 29:13,14 ~
>
> He IS very real, and He is the One who loves you.
> all your heart, and I will be found by you saith the LORD."
>
> ~ Jeremiah 29:13,14 ~
>
>
So where is the evidence (hint - a book written and edited more than
three centuries after the events it alleges is not evidence).
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ken
Jan 3, 2012, 11:12:23 AM1/3/12
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On Jan 2, 10:17 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
THAT would be U, Fool
> I am a Fundamentalist Fundy Fuckwadd
Yeah
We know, Fool!
Remember this fact, Fool: "A very strong case can be made that many of
the steadfastly-
religiously-convinced are actually mentally ill. The pleasant
escape from reality that they so often indulge in is no
more than the escape psychotics experience when they seek
refuge from reality in a delusional dreamworld of imaginary
beliefs."
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> And you live up to your reputation as the biggest jerk on this chat board.
Nope....
> And you live up to your reputation as the biggest jerk on this chat board.
THAT would be U, Fool
> I am a Fundamentalist Fundy Fuckwadd
Yeah
We know, Fool!
Remember this fact, Fool: "A very strong case can be made that many of
the steadfastly-
religiously-convinced are actually mentally ill. The pleasant
escape from reality that they so often indulge in is no
more than the escape psychotics experience when they seek
refuge from reality in a delusional dreamworld of imaginary
beliefs."
Colanth
Jan 3, 2012, 12:01:02 PM1/3/12
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On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:57:34 -0800, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote:
>Budikka" wrote in message news:da6c1b20-fc72-4834...@v13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Why would I go looking for something that even you and Andrew-a-Blank
>> openly admit doesn't exist? I mean if it did exist and you *honestly*
>> wanted us to find it, you would both have provided the evidence we
>> requested.
>>
>> Your failure to do this is your unconditional admission that there
>> is no such evidence and therefore there is no such entity as this god
>> or this Jesus.
>
>Here is positive evidence right here. If you do this, you *WILL* find
>
> God.
>
> "And you will seek Me and find Me, when you
> search for Me with all your heart, and I will
> be found by you saith the LORD."
>
> ~ Jeremiah 29:13,14 ~
"Believing is seeing" isn't an argument, it's a fallacy.
>Budikka" wrote in message news:da6c1b20-fc72-4834...@v13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Why would I go looking for something that even you and Andrew-a-Blank
>> openly admit doesn't exist? I mean if it did exist and you *honestly*
>> wanted us to find it, you would both have provided the evidence we
>> requested.
>>
>> Your failure to do this is your unconditional admission that there
>> is no such evidence and therefore there is no such entity as this god
>> or this Jesus.
>
>Here is positive evidence right here. If you do this, you *WILL* find
>
> God.
>
> "And you will seek Me and find Me, when you
> search for Me with all your heart, and I will
> be found by you saith the LORD."
>
> ~ Jeremiah 29:13,14 ~
--
"I heard somebody say, 'Where's Nelson Mandela?' Well, Mandela's dead.
Because Saddam killed all the Mandelas." - George W. Bush
John Locke
Jan 3, 2012, 12:59:40 PM1/3/12
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On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 00:15:13 -0600, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>
>
>"Budikka" <budi...@netscape.net> wrote in message
>news:da6c1b20-fc72-4834...@v13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jan 2, 2:15 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
>and you won't accept the evidence that is found within your own body.
>Trying to find Jesus Christ with the five senses is like drinking a song or
>hearing a rainbow. You must find him with your heart.
>hell. And I will be helping Jesus Christ, Pantera, Satan, Dimebag, Terry
>Jones, and Adolf Hitler torment you for all eternity. And I will be
>laughing at your pain, and deriving great power from your insanity. And
>I'll be screaming "I told you so pop athiest Bukkakke" in your ears so loud
>that your eardrums will rupture.
>
Zachy dude, you really do need some new comedy material. You've worn
the "hell" out of your current shtick.
<zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>
>
>"Budikka" <budi...@netscape.net> wrote in message
>news:da6c1b20-fc72-4834...@v13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jan 2, 2:15 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
>> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>>> This is true. Buddikka only wants to reject God and she will never find
>>> him
>>
>>> This is true. Buddikka only wants to reject God and she will never find
>>> him
>>
>> Why would I go looking for something that even you and Andrew-a-Blank
>> openly admit doesn't exist? I mean if it did exist and you *honestly*
>> wanted us to find it, you would both have provided the evidence we
>> requested. Your failure to do this is your unconditional admission
>> that there is no such evidence and therefore there is no such entity
>> openly admit doesn't exist? I mean if it did exist and you *honestly*
>> wanted us to find it, you would both have provided the evidence we
>> requested. Your failure to do this is your unconditional admission
>> that there is no such evidence and therefore there is no such entity
>> as this god or this Jesus. In short, your position is exactly the
>> same as ours! lol!
>
>The evidence is in your heart. But your heart is cold and black as pitch
>> same as ours! lol!
>
>and you won't accept the evidence that is found within your own body.
>Trying to find Jesus Christ with the five senses is like drinking a song or
>hearing a rainbow. You must find him with your heart.
>
>> But think on this: even if everything you've been LYING about were not
>> the tissue of lies it so obviously is, why would *anyone* in their
>> right mind even *want* to spend ***ETERNITY***y with loser numbnuts
>> lying hypocritical cowardly lame-brained jackasses like you?
>> Seriously? I;'d *rather* go to Hell than spend eternity with scum
>> like you Usenet theists.
>
>Well, you're going to get to do just that, because you're going straight to
>> But think on this: even if everything you've been LYING about were not
>> the tissue of lies it so obviously is, why would *anyone* in their
>> right mind even *want* to spend ***ETERNITY***y with loser numbnuts
>> lying hypocritical cowardly lame-brained jackasses like you?
>> Seriously? I;'d *rather* go to Hell than spend eternity with scum
>> like you Usenet theists.
>
>hell. And I will be helping Jesus Christ, Pantera, Satan, Dimebag, Terry
>Jones, and Adolf Hitler torment you for all eternity. And I will be
>laughing at your pain, and deriving great power from your insanity. And
>I'll be screaming "I told you so pop athiest Bukkakke" in your ears so loud
>that your eardrums will rupture.
>
Zachy dude, you really do need some new comedy material. You've worn
the "hell" out of your current shtick.
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