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Fr Perro Rojo

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Dec 14, 2012, 7:48:28 PM12/14/12
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Otherwise the death toll would surely have been MUCH higher.

Psalm 32:7
You are my hiding place; you will protect me from trouble and surround
me with songs of deliverance.

Psalms 121:7,8
The Lord will keep you from all harm - he will watch over your life

And we must thank Him, for surely those children who were killed today
are enjoying eternal bliss with The Lord.

John Locke

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Dec 14, 2012, 10:53:24 PM12/14/12
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..I assume you're joking. Theism is so fucking bizarre that it's
sometimes difficult to determine when someone is attempting
a parody.

Christopher A. Lee

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Dec 14, 2012, 10:57:00 PM12/14/12
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:48:28 -0800 (PST), Fr Perro Rojo
<reddo...@budweiser.com> wrote:

While it is a tragedy, was it really necessary to deliberately,
nastily and stupidly post this to an atheist group?

Oh, it's reddog - that explains it.

duke

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Dec 15, 2012, 8:21:27 AM12/15/12
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:57:00 -0800, Christopher A. Lee
<chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:48:28 -0800 (PST), Fr Perro Rojo
><reddo...@budweiser.com> wrote:
>
>While it is a tragedy, was it really necessary to deliberately,
>nastily and stupidly post this to an atheist group?

Yes, yes it is. After all, only the godless can do what happened yesterday. And
he was your kind - godless.

The dukester, American - American
********************************************
You can't fix stupid.
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•RLMeasures

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Dec 15, 2012, 11:07:27 AM12/15/12
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In article
<32f86f94-c86a-4300...@r14g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>, Fr
• Even the kids that were not baptised by the RCC?

�RLMeasures

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Dec 15, 2012, 11:09:34 AM12/15/12
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In article <g5tnc8haogbhopccp...@4ax.com>, Christopher A.
Lee <chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:48:28 -0800 (PST), Fr Perro Rojo
> <reddo...@budweiser.com> wrote:
>
> While it is a tragedy, was it really necessary to deliberately,
> nastily and stupidly post this to an atheist group?

� It's good for laughs.

•RLMeasures

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Dec 15, 2012, 11:13:37 AM12/15/12
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In article <o9uoc8p9gpumb1ecu...@4ax.com>, duke
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:57:00 -0800, Christopher A. Lee
> <chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:48:28 -0800 (PST), Fr Perro Rojo
> ><reddo...@budweiser.com> wrote:
> >
> >While it is a tragedy, was it really necessary to deliberately,
> >nastily and stupidly post this to an atheist group?
>
> Yes, yes it is. After all, only the godless can do what happened
yesterday. And
> he was your kind - godless.
>
• Duke guesses. When it comes to a history of killing in cold blood
Muslims place after Christians.

Budikka666

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Dec 15, 2012, 11:49:28 AM12/15/12
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On Dec 14, 6:48 pm, Fr Perro Rojo <reddog1...@budweiser.com> wrote:
> Otherwise the death toll would surely have been MUCH higher.

Where was your god? Non-existent again?

No god helped those poor children.

Budikka

Budikka666

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Dec 15, 2012, 12:00:55 PM12/15/12
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On Dec 15, 7:21 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> Yes, yes it is.  After all, only the godless can do what happened yesterday.

Another LIE in the newsgroups. it was Christians who slaughtered
Muslims in the crusades. It was Christians who slaughtered old women
while lying that they were witches. It's the Bible which dictates
that we stone gays to death. It was Catholics who burned "heretics".
It was the Hebrews in the OT who slaughtered thousands upon thousands
of men, women, and children for land.

If we swallow your bullshit, then your god is responsible and you
cannot escape it because if he had not created this universe in full
fore-knowledge of what would happen, then none of those children would
have died, and no one would be suffering in eternal punishment in
hell. It's all on your god if you believe that bullshit. He could
have stopped Nacy Lanza from buying two thousand dollars worth of
automatic weapons. He could have prevented Adam Lanza from getting
his hands on those guns. He could have tipped off the police before
Lanza got to the school. He could have caused the guns to jam.

But he did nothing.

So is your god an atheist?

Because your god failed to lift a finger to help yesterday. So what
was the divine lesson there? What was it that required TWENTY DEAD
CHILDREN to teach us that has not already been conveyed by COUNTLESS
THOUSANDS OF DEAD CHILDREN prior to yesterday?

What was it that went wrong yesterday in a nation where 90% believe in
god, and 80% accept Jesus, yet this nation produces more horrific
violence of that nature than *any* other nation on Earth, atheist,
religious or whatever?

Budikka

duke

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Dec 15, 2012, 2:22:49 PM12/15/12
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Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and children are
found like muslims do.

Alan Ferris

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Dec 15, 2012, 3:03:00 PM12/15/12
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On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:22:49 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>>• Duke guesses. When it comes to a history of killing in cold blood
>>Muslims place after Christians.
>
>Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and children are
>found like muslims do.

They have in other countries.
--
Ferrit

()'.'.'()
( (T) )
( ) . ( )
(")_(")

Mulligan

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Dec 15, 2012, 3:05:21 PM12/15/12
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On Dec 15, 12:03 pm, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:22:49 -0600, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>  Duke guesses.   When it comes to a history of killing in cold blood
> >>Muslims place after Christians.
>
> >Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and children are
> >found like muslims do.
>
> They have in other countries.
> --
> Ferrit
>
>  ()'.'.'()
>  ( (T) )
>  ( ) . ( )
>  (")_(")

never heard of abortion clinic bombings?

Alan Ferris

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Dec 15, 2012, 4:10:35 PM12/15/12
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On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:05:21 -0800 (PST), Mulligan <t2jud...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Dec 15, 12:03 pm, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:22:49 -0600, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >>  Duke guesses.   When it comes to a history of killing in cold blood
>> >>Muslims place after Christians.
>>
>> >Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and children are
>> >found like muslims do.
>>
>> They have in other countries.
>
>never heard of abortion clinic bombings?

Indeed.

Mulligan

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Dec 15, 2012, 4:19:22 PM12/15/12
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On Dec 15, 1:10 pm, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:05:21 -0800 (PST), Mulligan <t2judgm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Dec 15, 12:03 pm, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:22:49 -0600, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >> Duke guesses. When it comes to a history of killing in cold blood
> >> >>Muslims place after Christians.
>
> >> >Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and children are
> >> >found like muslims do.
>
> >> They have in other countries.
>
> >never heard of abortion clinic bombings?
>
> Indeed.


See how stupid you are?

Martin

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Dec 15, 2012, 4:29:03 PM12/15/12
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On 15/12/2012 19:22, duke wrote:

> Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and children are
> found like muslims do.

liar

Eric Robert Rudolph did just that.

Mulligan

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Dec 15, 2012, 4:31:12 PM12/15/12
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he means catholics, dummy

Fred^72

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Dec 15, 2012, 4:39:09 PM12/15/12
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Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:22:49 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>Duke guesses. When it comes to a history of killing in cold blood
>>>Muslims place after Christians.
>>Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and children are
>>found like muslims do.
>They have in other countries.

They do also in the United States. The fucking Christian shitbag seems to
have forgotten Timothy McVeigh and Columbine as well as every other mass
murdering rampage in the United States in the past 250 years, all
Christians.


---
Adam & Steve

Mulligan

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Dec 15, 2012, 4:40:31 PM12/15/12
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On Dec 15, 1:39 pm, repo...@scientology.org (Fred^72) wrote:
> Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:22:49 -0600, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>Duke guesses.   When it comes to a history of killing in cold blood
> >>>Muslims place after Christians.
> >>Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and children are
> >>found like muslims do.
> >They have in other countries.
>
> They do also in the United States.

Thanks for telling this moron, as he seems to ignore me like he is
some kind of drooling imbecile.

hypatiab7

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Dec 15, 2012, 4:43:17 PM12/15/12
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I hope this is a satire on how crazy some Christians are at the wrong times.
If it isn't, you are a total sicko.

Martin

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Dec 15, 2012, 4:44:08 PM12/15/12
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What the fuck are you on about you twat?

a - catholics are christians
b - Eric Robert Rudolph stated he was born a catholic and would die a
catholic

So could you explain what the hell it is you're on about fuck-nuts
>

hypatiab7

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Dec 15, 2012, 4:44:24 PM12/15/12
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On Saturday, December 15, 2012 8:21:27 AM UTC-5, duke wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:57:00 -0800, Christopher A. Lee
>
> <chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:48:28 -0800 (PST), Fr Perro Rojo
>
> ><reddo...@budweiser.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >While it is a tragedy, was it really necessary to deliberately,
>
> >nastily and stupidly post this to an atheist group?
>
>
>
> Yes, yes it is. After all, only the godless can do what happened yesterday. And
>
> he was your kind - godless.
>
Like you, the shooter was dangerously mentally ill.

hypatiab7

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Dec 15, 2012, 4:46:58 PM12/15/12
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Catholics are Christians. They are the second Christians (after the Gnostics).

hypatiab7

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Dec 15, 2012, 4:48:39 PM12/15/12
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The Christians have had more time, but some Muslims are trying to catch up.

hypatiab7

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Dec 15, 2012, 4:50:11 PM12/15/12
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Don't forget that guy who was burning down churches all over the south - another Christian.

Alan Ferris

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Dec 15, 2012, 5:18:35 PM12/15/12
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What are you on about?

Alan Ferris

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Dec 15, 2012, 5:19:44 PM12/15/12
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I think you have me confused with somebody else....learn to follow a thread
before you throw the insults and you might hit your target and not look the
moron yourself,

RedDog

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Dec 15, 2012, 5:58:03 PM12/15/12
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On Dec 15, 3:53 am, John Locke <johnnydemon...@demonmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:48:28 -0800 (PST), Fr Perro Rojo
>
No, I wasn't exactly joking. I was trying to show the christers what
despicable liars they are.

RedDog

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Dec 15, 2012, 6:01:47 PM12/15/12
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It's both, Mickey. I'm a total sicko AND it was a satire. BTW, where
the fuck is my fucking number, goddammit!!???

Fred^72

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Dec 15, 2012, 6:22:06 PM12/15/12
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Mulligan <quar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Dec 15, 1:39=A0pm, repo...@scientology.org (Fred^72) wrote:
>> Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:22:49 -0600, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>Duke guesses. =A0 When it comes to a history of killing in cold blood
>>>>>Muslims place after Christians.
>>>>Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and children are
>>>>found like muslims do.
>>>They have in other countries.
>> They do also in the United States.
>Thanks for telling this moron, as he seems to ignore me like he is
>some kind of drooling imbecile.

The religious tend to try to pretend that their fellow cult followers
some how don't commit the world's worse atrocities, their cult leaders
constantly tell them that their intellectual and moral superiors are
the reason why Christanics and Islamics commit atrocities agains society.

Fucking insane.

---
Adam & Steve

Fred^72

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Dec 15, 2012, 6:23:37 PM12/15/12
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Christanics committing terrorist crimes against fellow Christians is
99.99% of the overall total crimes that Christianics commit. It's a
good thing that they're kept busy considering how profoundly their
crimes against atheists effect society.

---
Adam & Steve

Linuxgal

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Dec 15, 2012, 6:29:32 PM12/15/12
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Duke: "Are there nor truuuue Christians in the hooooose? Those there
atheist gerrrrunts are trampling o'er ma God-gi'en raaaights! Theeve
used me an ma pals morst direly and' we're inneed of a wee assistance!"

--
Halftime at Circvs Maximvs, and the Lions lead the Christians 326-0

Patrick

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Dec 15, 2012, 7:04:39 PM12/15/12
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"Budikka666" <budi...@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:cb8d38c9-1f63-430e...@h2g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
-----------------

How can a God of love permit such things in His world as war, sickness,
pain, and death, especially when their effects often are felt most keenly
by those who are apparently innocent?

We need also to recognize that our very minds were created by God. We can
only use these minds to the extent that He allows, and it is, therefore,
utterly presumptuous for us to use them to question Him and His motives.

"Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?" (Genesis 18:25).

"Shall the thing formed say to Him that formed it, why hast Thou made me
thus?" (Romans 9:20).

We ourselves do not establish the standards of what is right. Only the
Creator of all reality can do that. We need to settle it, in our minds and
hearts, whether we understand it or not, that whatever God does is, by
definition, right.

There is really no such thing as the "innocent" suffering. Since "all have
sinned and come short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23), there is no one
who has the right to freedom from God's wrath on the basis of his own
innocence. As far as babies are concerned, and others who may be
incompetent mentally to distinguish right and wrong, it is clear from both
Scripture and universal experience that they are sinners by nature and thus
will inevitably become sinners by choice as soon as they are able to do so.

The Lord Jesus Christ, who was the only truly "innocent" and "righteous" man
in all history, nevertheless has suffered more than anyone else who ever
lived. And this He did for us! "Christ died for our sins" (I Corinthians
15:3). He suffered and died, in order that ultimately He might deliver the
world from the Curse, and that, even now, He can deliver from sin and its
bondage anyone who will receive Him in faith as personal Lord and Savior.
This great deliverance from the penalty of inherent sin, as well as of overt
sins, very possibly also assures the salvation of those who have died before
reaching an age of conscious choice of wrong over right.




Don Martin

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Dec 15, 2012, 7:18:27 PM12/15/12
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On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 22:19:44 +0000, Mulligan <quar...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>>Thanks for telling this moron, as he seems to ignore me like he is
>>some kind of drooling imbecile.

It only requires brains, not imbecility, to ignore you after looking
at a couple of your posts.

--

aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
The Squeeky Wheel: http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/

Father Haskell

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Dec 15, 2012, 7:56:00 PM12/15/12
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On Dec 14, 7:48 pm, Fr Perro Rojo <reddog1...@budweiser.com> wrote:
> Otherwise the death toll would surely have been MUCH higher.
>
> Psalm 32:7
> You are my hiding place; you will protect me from trouble and surround
> me with songs of deliverance.
>
> Psalms 121:7,8
> The Lord will keep you from all harm - he will watch over your life
>
> And we must thank Him, for surely those children who were killed today
> are enjoying eternal bliss with The Lord.

I'd gladly hold you down while the parents of the
victims show you their gratitude.

Father Haskell

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Dec 15, 2012, 8:00:22 PM12/15/12
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On Dec 15, 8:21 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:57:00 -0800, Christopher A. Lee
>
> <chrislee95...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:48:28 -0800 (PST), Fr Perro Rojo
> ><reddog1...@budweiser.com> wrote:
>
> >While it is a tragedy, was it really necessary to deliberately,
> >nastily and stupidly post this to an atheist group?
>
> Yes, yes it is.  After all, only the godless can do what happened yesterday. And
> he was your kind - godless.

Feels like deja-vu, Charles Whitman, all over
again. Wouldn't be surprised if the coroner finds
a tumor this time, too. Religion or lack thereof
was not a factor, nor is it respectful of the victims'
families.

Father Haskell

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On Dec 15, 2:22 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 08:13:37 -0800, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wrote:
> >In article <o9uoc8p9gpumb1ecu0p6e38650tgvcm...@4ax.com>, duke
> ><duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >> On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:57:00 -0800, Christopher A. Lee
> >> <chrislee95...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >> >On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:48:28 -0800 (PST), Fr Perro Rojo
> >> ><reddog1...@budweiser.com> wrote:
>
> >> >While it is a tragedy, was it really necessary to deliberately,
> >> >nastily and stupidly post this to an atheist group?
>
> >> Yes, yes it is.  After all, only the godless can do what happened
> >yesterday. And
> >> he was your kind - godless.
>
> >  Duke guesses.   When it comes to a history of killing in cold blood
> >Muslims place after Christians.
>
> Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and children are
> found like muslims do.

Coventry, Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Cambodia...

Father Haskell

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On Dec 15, 4:10 pm, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:05:21 -0800 (PST), Mulligan <t2judgm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Dec 15, 12:03 pm, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:22:49 -0600, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >> Duke guesses. When it comes to a history of killing in cold blood
> >> >>Muslims place after Christians.
>
> >> >Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and children are
> >> >found like muslims do.
>
> >> They have in other countries.
>
> >never heard of abortion clinic bombings?
>
> Indeed.

The Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building?

Father Haskell

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On Dec 15, 7:04 pm, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
>
> How can a God of love permit such things in His world as war, sickness,
>  pain, and death, especially when their effects often are felt most keenly
> by those who are apparently innocent?

Because he's a sick fuck, true to his war god roots,
and not a god of love.

hypatiab7

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Dec 15, 2012, 8:29:33 PM12/15/12
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On Friday, December 14, 2012 7:48:28 PM UTC-5, RedDog wrote:
> Otherwise the death toll would surely have been MUCH higher.
>
> Psalm 32:7
>
> You are my hiding place; you will protect me from trouble and surround
> me with songs of deliverance.
>
> Psalms 121:7,8
>
> The Lord will keep you from all harm - he will watch over your life
>
> And we must thank Him, for surely those children who were killed today
> are enjoying eternal bliss with The Lord.

You are a sicknic. Those Christians you are blathering about didn't know what was going on when it happened, so they weren't praying. They never know until
it's too late, so they can't do anything. And, praying helps no one. It is
a total waste of time.

Jeanne Douglas

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Dec 15, 2012, 8:44:57 PM12/15/12
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In article <rpppc85r8jn6vf039...@4ax.com>,
Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:05:21 -0800 (PST), Mulligan <t2jud...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Dec 15, 12:03 pm, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:22:49 -0600, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >>  Duke guesses.   When it comes to a history of killing in cold blood
> >> >>Muslims place after Christians.
> >>
> >> >Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and children
> >> >are
> >> >found like muslims do.
> >>
> >> They have in other countries.
> >
> >never heard of abortion clinic bombings?
>
> Indeed.

And let us never forget the bloodletting in Northern Ireland (and other
places in support of one side or the other in N.I.), perpetrated by
good Christians.

--
JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

•RLMeasures

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Dec 15, 2012, 9:14:14 PM12/15/12
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In article <dfjpc8dilpcab2o1b...@4ax.com>, duke
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 08:13:37 -0800, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
>
> >In article <o9uoc8p9gpumb1ecu...@4ax.com>, duke
> ><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:57:00 -0800, Christopher A. Lee
> >> <chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:48:28 -0800 (PST), Fr Perro Rojo
> >> ><reddo...@budweiser.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >While it is a tragedy, was it really necessary to deliberately,
> >> >nastily and stupidly post this to an atheist group?
> >>
> >> Yes, yes it is. After all, only the godless can do what happened
> >yesterday. And
> >> he was your kind - godless.
> >>
> >• Duke guesses. When it comes to a history of killing in cold blood
> >Muslims place after Christians.
>
> Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and children are
> found like muslims do.
>
• When the Christian captured Jerusalem during the Crusades they packed
the Temple with all the Jews they could find, and bured it to the
ground. Thank God I am not a Christian.

Jeanne Douglas

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Dec 15, 2012, 9:29:59 PM12/15/12
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In article
<6fedebd1-07d9-4f39...@h5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
What I'm seeing at this point is that people thought there was
something seriously wrong with the guy all the way back when he was only
5. And yet nobody did a thing to help that child, which let to him
murdering other children.

hypatiab7

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Dec 15, 2012, 9:38:18 PM12/15/12
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Are you an atheist? I only know you as a troll. If you are an atheist, you
know the info you're supposed to send to get a number. You've been around
long enough.

If anyone else wants to join the atheist/agnostic list, let me know and I'll send you the reqired questions to answer.

Steve O

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Dec 15, 2012, 10:00:48 PM12/15/12
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On 16/12/2012 00:04, Patrick wrote:
> "Budikka666" <budi...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:cb8d38c9-1f63-430e...@h2g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 14, 6:48 pm, Fr Perro Rojo <reddog1...@budweiser.com> wrote:
>> Otherwise the death toll would surely have been MUCH higher.
>
> Where was your god? Non-existent again?
> No god helped those poor children.
> -----------------
>
> How can a God of love permit such things in His world as war, sickness,
> pain, and death, especially when their effects often are felt most keenly
> by those who are apparently innocent?

Because he is either useless, evil or non-existent.

>
> We need also to recognize that our very minds were created by God. We can
> only use these minds to the extent that He allows, and it is, therefore,
> utterly presumptuous for us to use them to question Him and His motives.

It is not presumptious at all- it is completely appropriate to question
the motives of a being who is supposedly able to prevent such a
slaughter of innocents, but either fails or declines to do so.
If you are unable to question it yourself then you are either completely
heartless or brain-dead.
>
> "Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?" (Genesis 18:25).

Apparently not in this case- He is supposed to have the power to prevent
such a thing from happening, but failed to do so.
There is absolutely no excuse or reason to allow the slaughter of
terrified, innocent young babies like this, no matter how hard you try
to excuse it.
>
> "Shall the thing formed say to Him that formed it, why hast Thou made me
> thus?" (Romans 9:20).

Why the hell not?
If He made us with a questioning mind, like you claim, then why on earth
shouldn't we use it?


>
> We ourselves do not establish the standards of what is right.

Yes we absolutely do.
There is no one else capable of setting any such standards for ourselves.

>Only the
> Creator of all reality can do that.

If such a thing exists, you mean, and clearly from this incident, it is
abundantly clear that a Creator does not exist, or at least, if it does,
it is a cruel, harsh and uncaring being to allow such pain into people's
lives for no reason whatsoever.

>We need to settle it, in our minds and
> hearts, whether we understand it or not, that whatever God does is, by
> definition, right.

We understand it completely- there is no God- just a crazed lunatic with
a grudge and a gun.
>
> There is really no such thing as the "innocent" suffering.

Of course there is, you fecking idiot.
What the hell do you think a five to ten year old could actually do to
qualify as a non innocent person?
Are you completely insane?

> Since "all have
> sinned and come short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23)

To hell with your crazy notion of sin.
I find it appalling to imagine that there are people in this world who
could consider a five year old child to be a sinner, and deserving a
horrible death like these children did.
You are a totally sick and twisted individual if you honestly believe that.

>, there is no one
> who has the right to freedom from God's wrath on the basis of his own
> innocence. As far as babies are concerned, and others who may be
> incompetent mentally to distinguish right and wrong, it is clear from both
> Scripture and universal experience that they are sinners by nature and thus
> will inevitably become sinners by choice as soon as they are able to do so.

Looks like you just managed to confirm that you are a sick and twisted
individual after all.
How DARE you label those children as sinners and deserving to die, you
disgusting, despicable piece of crap.
Look at yourself and your own behaviour before you even try to place
blame on those kids, you sick bastard.
>
> The Lord Jesus Christ, who was the only truly "innocent" and "righteous" man
> in all history, nevertheless has suffered more than anyone else who ever
> lived.

Absolute crap.
He was temporarily dead for three days, according to your crazy book.
These kids are gone forever.

>And this He did for us! "Christ died for our sins" (I Corinthians
> 15:3). He suffered and died, in order that ultimately He might deliver the
> world from the Curse, and that, even now, He can deliver from sin and its
> bondage anyone who will receive Him in faith as personal Lord and Savior.
> This great deliverance from the penalty of inherent sin, as well as of overt
> sins, very possibly also assures the salvation of those who have died before
> reaching an age of conscious choice of wrong over right.

Take your ridiculous notion of salvation, fold it all up into nice
crinkly corners and shove it up your ass.
Here's a reality check for you these - children are dead, gone- after
dying a horrible, painful and terrifying death, and you are one sick
fucker if you think for even one moment that they deserved that because
they were somehow "sinful".
Just for one second, if you are capable of it,place your tiny mind into
the parents of those kids, and how they are feeling right now.
No- one - absolutely NO-ONE deserves that to happen to them for any
reason at all, and particularly not for the sake of your truly
disgusting idea that children of that age are somehow tainted or sinful.

Jeanne Douglas

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In article <5d55462a-9181-4d08...@googlegroups.com>,
Me, please.

Budikka666

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On Dec 15, 6:04 pm, "Patrick" <PBARKER...@r.com> wrote:
> "Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
>
> news:cb8d38c9-1f63-430e...@h2g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 14, 6:48 pm, Fr Perro Rojo <reddog1...@budweiser.com> wrote:
>
> > Otherwise the death toll would surely have been MUCH higher.
>
> Where was your god?  Non-existent again?
> No god helped those poor children.
> -----------------
>
> How can a God of love permit such things in His world as war, sickness,
>  pain, and death, especially when their effects often are felt most keenly
> by those who are apparently innocent?

He not only permits them according to Bible mythology, he actively
encourages perpetrates and sanctions them. None of it is necessary no
matter *what* his plan is, and if he cannot come up with a plan that
does not involve slaughtering children, then I piss on your worthless
piece of trash god. Got that part straight now?

> We need also to recognize that our very minds were created by God.

No, you need to recognize that you have not offered a shred of
objective independent evidence for any god. Indeed, when I last
challenged you on that topic, you RAN AWAY.

So no, you don't get to take god as a given until and unless you
support that proposition.

Got that part straight now?

> We can
> only use these minds to the extent that He allows,

There goes your free will you clueless dipshit. Thanks for that
damning admission! lol!

and it is, therefore,
> utterly presumptuous for us to use them to question Him and His motives.

Wrong! If he wantrs me on board (and assuming, for the sake of
argument, that he even exists), then he owes me an explanation. If he
cannot offer one then we're nothing but toys to him and free will is
non-existent (as indeed it is non-existent anyway).

[bullshit worhtless bible quotes flushed where htey belong]

> We ourselves do not establish the standards of what is right.

Yes, we do. If that were not the case, you would be out killing
witches and stoning gays. Get that part right you abysmally
hypocritical and clueless jerkwad.

> Only the
> Creator of all reality can do that. We need to settle it, in our minds and
> hearts, whether we understand it or not, that whatever God does is, by
> definition, right.

Horseshit. Are you saying that if your god tomorrow told you that
torturing babies is right you would immediately start torturing babies
you brainelss asshole?

> There is really no such thing as the "innocent" suffering.

Horse fucking shit you appallingly moronic bastard. if that's what
your religion teaches you, then you keep shove it deeply up your dumb
ass. In fact, I volunteer to help.

>  Since "all have
> sinned and come short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23), there is no one
> who has the right to freedom from God's wrath on the basis of his own
> innocence.

Horsehsuit. Your god is suppsoed ot judge us when we die, not
randomly kill babies. Gott aht part straight you pissant excuse for as
ahuman being?

BTW, you've now fully convinced me that you're totally insane and that
your religion is the last thing I want anything to do with. Way to
witness, Ratprick.

 As far as babies are concerned, and others who may be
> incompetent mentally to distinguish right and wrong, it is clear from both
> Scripture and universal experience that they are sinners by nature and thus
> will inevitably become sinners by choice as soon as they are able to do so.

So you agree that the pyscho gunman did a great job yesterday? OK,
Thanks for clearign that up yoru stinking scum for Christ.

I'm done with yoru shit. Thanks for convincing me beyond all hope of
retrieval that the last thing I want anything to do with is you or
your god, you sick fuck.

Budikka

Joe~Bean Inc.

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"Fr Perro Rojo" <reddo...@budweiser.com> wrote in message
news:32f86f94-c86a-4300...@r14g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> Otherwise the death toll would surely have been MUCH higher.
>

Your God could have stopped the slaughter if he wanted to, yet he chose not
to. He wanted those children to die and they died. He wanted their families
to suffer and they're suffering.

duke

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On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 19:04:39 -0500, "Patrick" <PBARK...@r.com> wrote:

>
>"Budikka666" <budi...@netscape.net> wrote in message
>news:cb8d38c9-1f63-430e...@h2g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>On Dec 14, 6:48 pm, Fr Perro Rojo <reddog1...@budweiser.com> wrote:
>> Otherwise the death toll would surely have been MUCH higher.
>
>Where was your god? Non-existent again?
>No god helped those poor children.

It was one of da dud's godless people that did the shooting.

The dukester, American - American
********************************************
You can't fix stupid.
********************************************

duke

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On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 03:00:48 +0000, Steve O <nos...@here.thanks> wrote:

>On 16/12/2012 00:04, Patrick wrote:
>> "Budikka666" <budi...@netscape.net> wrote in message
>> news:cb8d38c9-1f63-430e...@h2g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>> On Dec 14, 6:48 pm, Fr Perro Rojo <reddog1...@budweiser.com> wrote:
>>> Otherwise the death toll would surely have been MUCH higher.
>>
>> Where was your god? Non-existent again?
>> No god helped those poor children.
>> -----------------
>>
>> How can a God of love permit such things in His world as war, sickness,
>> pain, and death, especially when their effects often are felt most keenly
>> by those who are apparently innocent?
>
>Because he is either useless, evil or non-existent.
>
>>
>> We need also to recognize that our very minds were created by God. We can
>> only use these minds to the extent that He allows, and it is, therefore,
>> utterly presumptuous for us to use them to question Him and His motives.
>
>It is not presumptious at all- it is completely appropriate to question
>the motives of a being who is supposedly able to prevent such a
>slaughter of innocents, but either fails or declines to do so.
>If you are unable to question it yourself then you are either completely
>heartless or brain-dead.

God gave us a free will. To those that misuse it will experience the flames of
hell.

How sad those 26 people, especially the 20 kids, who died at the hands of a
dirtbag atheist. But for those 20 innocent lives stolen from us, Americans and
many other people worldwide, God allows the tragedy for the greater good.
Clearly this one incident will bring many of the fallen away to return to his
love.

For his kingdom is not of this world, but the next life.

duke

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On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:39:09 GMT, rep...@scientology.org (Fred^72) wrote:

>Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:22:49 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>Duke guesses. When it comes to a history of killing in cold blood
>>>>Muslims place after Christians.
>>>Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and children are
>>>found like muslims do.
>>They have in other countries.
>
>They do also in the United States. The fucking Christian shitbag seems to
>have forgotten Timothy McVeigh and Columbine as well as every other mass
>murdering rampage in the United States in the past 250 years, all
>Christians.

TV was an atheist. Muslims blow up market places full of women and children.

duke

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LG gone nuts. LV and columbine were atheist shootings and bombing. You likely
will find them waiting for you on the day you die.

duke

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On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:29:03 +0000, Martin <use...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:

>On 15/12/2012 19:22, duke wrote:
>
>> Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and children are
>> found like muslims do.
>
>liar

>Eric Robert Rudolph did just that.

Another atheist at work. Heeheehee.

duke

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DisneyWorld, Aspen, etc.

duke

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The crusades were a Christian action against the muslims to prevent them from
destroying the Holy Land.

duke

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On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:05:21 -0800 (PST), Mulligan <t2jud...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Dec 15, 12:03 pm, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:22:49 -0600, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >>  Duke guesses.   When it comes to a history of killing in cold blood
>> >>Muslims place after Christians.
>>
>> >Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and children are
>> >found like muslims do.
>>
>> They have in other countries.
>> --
>> Ferrit
>>
>>  ()'.'.'()
>>  ( (T) )
>>  ( ) . ( )
>>  (")_(")
>
>never heard of abortion clinic bombings?

Bombing murder houses.

duke

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On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 17:44:57 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
wrote:
Hardly good Christians, but weak ones.

duke

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An atheist perpetrator.

duke

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Only an atheist can murder innocence.

duke

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On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 08:07:27 -0800, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:

>In article
><32f86f94-c86a-4300...@r14g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>, Fr
>Perro Rojo <reddo...@budweiser.com> wrote:
>
>> Otherwise the death toll would surely have been MUCH higher.
>>
>> Psalm 32:7
>> You are my hiding place; you will protect me from trouble and surround
>> me with songs of deliverance.
>>
>> Psalms 121:7,8
>> The Lord will keep you from all harm - he will watch over your life
>>
>> And we must thank Him, for surely those children who were killed today
>> are enjoying eternal bliss with The Lord.
>
>• Even the kids that were not baptised by the RCC?

Any Christian baptism. Those not are in limbo-equivalent.

duke

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God gave us free will, and so it goes. The greater good is addressed if and as
it draws many more back to life in God.

Mitchell Holman

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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:kclrc81ocfieorclf...@4ax.com:

> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:29:03 +0000, Martin <use...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On 15/12/2012 19:22, duke wrote:
>>
>>> Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and
>>> children are found like muslims do.
>>
>>liar
>
>>Eric Robert Rudolph did just that.
>
> Another atheist at work.


Rudolf was a prolife religious fanatic,
famous for shooting abortion doctors. Dang,
don't you know anything?





Martin

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On 16/12/2012 14:08, duke wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:29:03 +0000, Martin <use...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 15/12/2012 19:22, duke wrote:
>>
>>> Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and children are
>>> found like muslims do.
>>
>> liar
>
>> Eric Robert Rudolph did just that.
>
> Another atheist at work. Heeheehee.

Nope, he said himself "I was born a catholic, I will die a catholic"

One of your lot. Then again so are priest rapists. You defend those too

Mitchell Holman

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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:hglrc89iaihvtooae...@4ax.com:

> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 18:14:14 -0800, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
>
>>In article <dfjpc8dilpcab2o1b...@4ax.com>, duke
>><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 08:13:37 -0800, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
>>>
>>> >In article <o9uoc8p9gpumb1ecu...@4ax.com>, duke
>>> ><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:57:00 -0800, Christopher A. Lee
>>> >> <chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:48:28 -0800 (PST), Fr Perro Rojo
>>> >> ><reddo...@budweiser.com> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >While it is a tragedy, was it really necessary to deliberately,
>>> >> >nastily and stupidly post this to an atheist group?
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes, yes it is. After all, only the godless can do what happened
>>> >yesterday. And
>>> >> he was your kind - godless.
>>> >>
>>> >• Duke guesses. When it comes to a history of killing in cold
>>> >blood Muslims place after Christians.
>>>
>>> Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and
>>> children are found like muslims do.
>>>
>>• When the Christian captured Jerusalem during the Crusades they
>>packed the Temple with all the Jews they could find, and bured it to
>>the ground. Thank God I am not a Christian.
>
> The crusades were a Christian action against the muslims to prevent
> them from destroying the Holy Land.
>


Guess which side won the Crusades.

Hint - it wasn't the Christian invaders.....



Mitchell Holman

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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:2nlrc8h346bsi2r5b...@4ax.com:

> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 17:00:22 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
> <father...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Dec 15, 8:21 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:57:00 -0800, Christopher A. Lee
>>>
>>> <chrislee95...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> >On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:48:28 -0800 (PST), Fr Perro Rojo
>>> ><reddog1...@budweiser.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >While it is a tragedy, was it really necessary to deliberately,
>>> >nastily and stupidly post this to an atheist group?
>>>
>>> Yes, yes it is.  After all, only the godless can do what happened
>>> yesterday. And he was your kind - godless.
>>
>>Feels like deja-vu, Charles Whitman, all over
>>again. Wouldn't be surprised if the coroner finds
>>a tumor this time, too. Religion or lack thereof
>>was not a factor, nor is it respectful of the victims'
>>families.
>
> Only an atheist can murder innocence.


Another Christian who never read his bible.


DT 20:16 "In the cities of the nations the Lord is
giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive
anything that breathes."

JS 11:8-15 "And the lord gave them into the hand
of Israel, ...utterly destroying them; there was none
left that breathed ...."

IS 13:15 "Everyone who is captured will be thrust
through; all who are caught will fall by the sword.
Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their
eyes; their ... wives will be ravished."

IS 49:26 The Lord will cause the oppressors of the
Israelite's to eat their own flesh and to become
drunk on their own blood as with wine.

EZ 9:4-6 The Lord commands: "... slay old men outright,
young men and maidens, little children and women ...."

HO 13:16 "They shall fall by the sword: their infants
shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child"



Don Martin

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On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 17:44:57 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
<hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

On both sides.

--

aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
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Linuxgal

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Don Martin wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 17:44:57 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
> <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >In article<rpppc85r8jn6vf039...@4ax.com>,
>> >Alan Ferris<hairy....@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>>> >>On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:05:21 -0800 (PST), Mulligan<t2jud...@gmail.com>
>>> >>wrote:
>>> >>
>>>> >> >On Dec 15, 12:03 pm, Alan Ferris<hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> >> >>On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:22:49 -0600, duke<duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >> >> Duke guesses. When it comes to a history of killing in cold blood
>>>>>>> >> >> >>Muslims place after Christians.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and children
>>>>>> >> >> >are
>>>>>> >> >> >found like muslims do.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>They have in other countries.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >never heard of abortion clinic bombings?
>>> >>
>>> >>Indeed.
>> >
>> >And let us never forget the bloodletting in Northern Ireland (and other
>> >places in support of one side or the other in N.I.), perpetrated by
>> >good Christians.
> On both sides.

The tribbles in Ulster have nothing to do with religion, other than a
cover for plain old tribalism.

--
Halftime at Circvs Maximvs, and the Lions lead the Christians 326-0

Alan Ferris

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On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 08:10:07 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>>• When the Christian captured Jerusalem during the Crusades they packed
>>the Temple with all the Jews they could find, and bured it to the
>>ground. Thank God I am not a Christian.
>
>The crusades were a Christian action against the muslims to prevent them from
>destroying the Holy Land.

ROFLMAO! I love the way duke can always be there to deny catholic teachings.
Even when the church lies about the past, Earl will change even their lie for
another one.

Alan Ferris

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Well not all the crusades included the Holy Lands

Alan Ferris

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On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 08:13:04 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>>Feels like deja-vu, Charles Whitman, all over
>>again. Wouldn't be surprised if the coroner finds
>>a tumor this time, too. Religion or lack thereof
>>was not a factor, nor is it respectful of the victims'
>>families.
>
>Only an atheist can murder innocence.

Your priests did it every time they raped a child. You did it every time you
defended these rapists.

----
"I think, way back been I spent time (wasted, really) trying to get
some idiot from Louisiana (Earl Weber?) to leave y'all the hell
alone." - Rev. Dye
----

•RLMeasures

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In article <hglrc89iaihvtooae...@4ax.com>, duke
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 18:14:14 -0800, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
>
> >In article <dfjpc8dilpcab2o1b...@4ax.com>, duke
> ><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 08:13:37 -0800, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <o9uoc8p9gpumb1ecu...@4ax.com>, duke
> >> ><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:57:00 -0800, Christopher A. Lee
> >> >> <chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:48:28 -0800 (PST), Fr Perro Rojo
> >> >> ><reddo...@budweiser.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >While it is a tragedy, was it really necessary to deliberately,
> >> >> >nastily and stupidly post this to an atheist group?
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes, yes it is. After all, only the godless can do what happened
> >> >yesterday. And
> >> >> he was your kind - godless.
> >> >>
> >> >• Duke guesses. When it comes to a history of killing in cold blood
> >> >Muslims place after Christians.
> >>
> >> Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and children are
> >> found like muslims do.
> >>
> >• When the Christians captured Jerusalem during the Crusades they packed
> >the Temple with all the Jews they could find, and bured it to the
> >ground. Thank God I am not a Christian.
>
> The crusades were a Christian action against the muslims to prevent them from
> destroying the Holy Land.
>
• So why did the Christian army incinerate Jerusalem's Jews?

•RLMeasures

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In article <2olrc89t3qdkrh2m9...@4ax.com>, duke
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 08:07:27 -0800, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
>
> >In article
> ><32f86f94-c86a-4300...@r14g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>, Fr
> >Perro Rojo <reddo...@budweiser.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Otherwise the death toll would surely have been MUCH higher.
> >>
> >> Psalm 32:7
> >> You are my hiding place; you will protect me from trouble and surround
> >> me with songs of deliverance.
> >>
> >> Psalms 121:7,8
> >> The Lord will keep you from all harm - he will watch over your life
> >>
> >> And we must thank Him, for surely those children who were killed today
> >> are enjoying eternal bliss with The Lord.
> >
> >• Even the kids that were not baptised by the RCC?
>
> Any Christian baptism. Those not are in limbo-equivalent.
>
• Mormonites claimto be Christian yet the pope said their baptism in invalid.

•RLMeasures

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In article <XnsA12B56800F5D3...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
*** amazing

Alan Ferris

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Indeed, if it had not been religion it would have been something else.

The reality is that England was going to hand back the whole of Ireland, but the
Northern counties rebelled as they did not want to be ruled from Ireland as they
preferred the existing rule from England.

The reality is now that Ireland would not want the North back at all.

Alan Ferris

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Probably the same reason they killed Christians in Southern France

Mitchell Holman

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Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:6rsrc8lgaqoulm8h3...@4ax.com:
Their goal was Jerusalem. They finally
entered, killed everyone inside, and were
eventually kicked out again, never to return.

Not much of a victory the way I see it.....




John Manning

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Especially for the multiple thousands killed.



Don Martin

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On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 08:33:41 -0600, Mitchell Holman
<nomailverizon.net> wrote to Dooshe:
It's Dooshe--what did you expect?

•RLMeasures

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In article <5lsrc81kifdgvbe3s...@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
• To critics of the RCC Earl is a godsend.

�RLMeasures

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In article <l41sc8h0ec8mt1sfv...@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
� In that case the Christians' misfortune was living in a town that was
populated mainly by Albigensians.

Linuxgal

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Thing is, though, when you criticize Duke, you're not even criticizing
the RCC, just Duke's own theology. He's a Catholic In Name Only.

Alan Ferris

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On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 12:19:02 -0600, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:

>> Well not all the crusades included the Holy Lands
>
>
> Their goal was Jerusalem. They finally
>entered, killed everyone inside, and were
>eventually kicked out again, never to return.
>
> Not much of a victory the way I see it.....

Not all of them had Jerusalem as their goal.

Albigensian Crusade 1209
Livonian Crusade 1198
Swedish Crusade 1249
Wendish Crusade 1147
Crusade of Nicopoli 1396

There are other minor ones all through the time period. People always remember
the Holy Land crusades and ignore that there were far more involving other
areas.

Mulligan

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On Dec 15, 1:44 pm, Martin <use...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
> On 15/12/2012 21:31, Mulligan wrote:
>
> > On Dec 15, 1:29 pm, Martin <use...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
> >> On 15/12/2012 19:22, duke wrote:
>
> >>> Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and children are
> >>> found like muslims do.
>
> >> liar
>
> >> Eric Robert Rudolph did just that.
>
> > he means catholics, dummy
>
> What the fuck are you on about you twat?
>
> a - catholics are christians
> b - Eric Robert Rudolph stated he was born a catholic and would die a
> catholic
>
> So could you explain what the hell it is you're on about fuck-nuts


When duke talks about christians, he means catholics, that is his
perspective.

Are you illiterate?

Mulligan

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On Dec 15, 2:18 pm, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:19:22 -0800 (PST), Mulligan <t2judgm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Dec 15, 1:10 pm, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:05:21 -0800 (PST), Mulligan <t2judgm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Dec 15, 12:03 pm, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:22:49 -0600, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> Duke guesses. When it comes to a history of killing in cold blood
> >> >> >>Muslims place after Christians.
>
> >> >> >Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and children are
> >> >> >found like muslims do.
>
> >> >> They have in other countries.
>
> >> >never heard of abortion clinic bombings?
>
> >> Indeed.
>
> >See how stupid you are?
>
> What are you on about?


Exactly.

Mulligan

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On Dec 15, 2:19 pm, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:40:31 -0800 (PST), Mulligan <quarke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Dec 15, 1:39 pm, repo...@scientology.org (Fred^72) wrote:
> >> Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:22:49 -0600, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >>>Duke guesses. When it comes to a history of killing in cold blood
> >> >>>Muslims place after Christians.
> >> >>Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and children are
> >> >>found like muslims do.
> >> >They have in other countries.
>
> >> They do also in the United States.
>
> >Thanks for telling this moron, as he seems to ignore me like he is
> >some kind of drooling imbecile.
>
> I think you have me confused with somebody else....

Negative, rollock

Mulligan

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On Dec 15, 3:22 pm, repo...@scientology.org (Fred^72) wrote:
> Mulligan <quarke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Dec 15, 1:39=A0pm, repo...@scientology.org (Fred^72) wrote:
> >> Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:22:49 -0600, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>>>Duke guesses. =A0 When it comes to a history of killing in cold blood
> >>>>>Muslims place after Christians.
> >>>>Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and children are
> >>>>found like muslims do.
> >>>They have in other countries.
> >> They do also in the United States.
> >Thanks for telling this moron, as he seems to ignore me like he is
> >some kind of drooling imbecile.
>
> The religious tend to try to pretend

No, robert golaszewski is a retard.

•RLMeasures

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In article <WLidnb2vbPLGtlPN...@giganews.com>, Linuxgal
*** Some of his statements are semi-correct.

duke

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On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 08:33:41 -0600, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:

>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>news:kclrc81ocfieorclf...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:29:03 +0000, Martin <use...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>On 15/12/2012 19:22, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and
>>>> children are found like muslims do.
>>>
>>>liar
>>
>>>Eric Robert Rudolph did just that.
>>
>> Another atheist at work.
>
>
> Rudolf was a prolife religious fanatic,
>famous for shooting abortion doctors. Dang,
>don't you know anything?

His fruits made him an atheist.

The dukester, American - American
********************************************
You can't fix stupid.
********************************************

duke

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On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:34:09 +0000, Martin <use...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:

>
>
>On 16/12/2012 14:08, duke wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:29:03 +0000, Martin <use...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 15/12/2012 19:22, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and children are
>>>> found like muslims do.
>>>
>>> liar
>>
>>> Eric Robert Rudolph did just that.
>>
>> Another atheist at work. Heeheehee.
>
>Nope, he said himself "I was born a catholic, I will die a catholic"
>
>One of your lot. Then again so are priest rapists. You defend those too

He lied the day he changed.

duke

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On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 08:34:49 -0600, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:

>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>news:hglrc89iaihvtooae...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 18:14:14 -0800, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <dfjpc8dilpcab2o1b...@4ax.com>, duke
>>><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 08:13:37 -0800, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >In article <o9uoc8p9gpumb1ecu...@4ax.com>, duke
>>>> ><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:57:00 -0800, Christopher A. Lee
>>>> >> <chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:48:28 -0800 (PST), Fr Perro Rojo
>>>> >> ><reddo...@budweiser.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >While it is a tragedy, was it really necessary to deliberately,
>>>> >> >nastily and stupidly post this to an atheist group?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Yes, yes it is. After all, only the godless can do what happened
>>>> >yesterday. And
>>>> >> he was your kind - godless.
>>>> >>
>>>> >• Duke guesses. When it comes to a history of killing in cold
>>>> >blood Muslims place after Christians.
>>>>
>>>> Christians don't blow up the marketplace where their women and
>>>> children are found like muslims do.
>>>>
>>>• When the Christian captured Jerusalem during the Crusades they
>>>packed the Temple with all the Jews they could find, and bured it to
>>>the ground. Thank God I am not a Christian.
>>
>> The crusades were a Christian action against the muslims to prevent
>> them from destroying the Holy Land.

> Guess which side won the Crusades.

The Christians.

> Hint - it wasn't the Christian invaders.....

Heeheehee.

duke

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On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:44:24 -0800 (PST), hypatiab7 <hypa...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On Saturday, December 15, 2012 8:21:27 AM UTC-5, duke wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:57:00 -0800, Christopher A. Lee
>>
>> <chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:48:28 -0800 (PST), Fr Perro Rojo
>>
>> ><reddo...@budweiser.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> >While it is a tragedy, was it really necessary to deliberately,
>>
>> >nastily and stupidly post this to an atheist group?
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, yes it is. After all, only the godless can do what happened yesterday. And
>>
>> he was your kind - godless.
>>
>Like you, the shooter was dangerously mentally ill.

Like you, he turned away from God.

duke

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That's right.

Father Haskell

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On Dec 15, 11:13 am, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wrote:
> In article <o9uoc8p9gpumb1ecu0p6e38650tgvcm...@4ax.com>, duke
>
> <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:57:00 -0800, Christopher A. Lee
> > <chrislee95...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > >On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:48:28 -0800 (PST), Fr Perro Rojo
> > ><reddog1...@budweiser.com> wrote:
>
> > >While it is a tragedy, was it really necessary to deliberately,
> > >nastily and stupidly post this to an atheist group?
>
> > Yes, yes it is.  After all, only the godless can do what happened
> yesterday. And
> > he was your kind - godless.
>
>  Duke guesses.   When it comes to a history of killing in cold blood
> Muslims place after Christians.

That's different.

Mulligan

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On Dec 16, 1:55 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 08:18:37 -0800, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wrote:
> >In article <2olrc89t3qdkrh2m90q6t544lkubg0p...@4ax.com>, duke
> ><duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 08:07:27 -0800, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wrote:
>
> >> >In article
> >> ><32f86f94-c86a-4300-8634-4311212d0...@r14g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>, Fr
> >> >Perro Rojo <reddog1...@budweiser.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> Otherwise the death toll would surely have been MUCH higher.
>
> >> >> Psalm 32:7
> >> >> You are my hiding place; you will protect me from trouble and surround
> >> >> me with songs of deliverance.
>
> >> >> Psalms 121:7,8
> >> >> The Lord will keep you from all harm - he will watch over your life
>
> >> >> And we must thank Him, for surely those children who were killed today
> >> >> are enjoying eternal bliss with The Lord.
>
> >> >  Even the kids that were not baptised by the RCC?
>
> >> Any Christian baptism.   Those not are in limbo-equivalent.
>
> >  Mormonites claimto be Christian yet the pope said their baptism in invalid.
>
> That's right.

I declare the popes sprinkling to be invalid.

Martin

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On 16/12/2012 21:04, Mulligan wrote:

> When duke talks about christians, he means catholics, that is his
> perspective.
>
> Are you illiterate?

It seems you are.

Martin: Eric Robert Rudolph did just that.

Fucknuts: he means catholics, dummy

So Eric Robert Rudolph IS a catholic, yet you stated I was a dummy for
citing a catholic because that is what you think duke means by christian.

You're a total fuckwit.

Martin

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On 16/12/2012 21:53, duke wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 08:33:41 -0600, Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:

>> Rudolf was a prolife religious fanatic,
>> famous for shooting abortion doctors. Dang,
>> don't you know anything?
>
> His fruits made him an atheist.

Nope, his baptism made him a catholic, and the catholic church didn't
let him go. He's still a catholic.

Martin

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On 16/12/2012 21:53, duke wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:34:09 +0000, Martin <use...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:

>> Nope, he said himself "I was born a catholic, I will die a catholic"
>>
>> One of your lot. Then again so are priest rapists. You defend those too
>
> He lied the day he changed.

Has the church excommunicated him? If not he's a catholic still. A bit
like Hitler.

Alan Ferris

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On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:53:25 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>>One of your lot. Then again so are priest rapists. You defend those too
>
>He lied the day he changed.

I agree, the day the pope protected child rape he ceased to be a Christian.

----
"Isn't Ireland to the south of London."
"And I never said South."
"I never lie"
- duke (Earl J Weber)
----

Alan Ferris

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When, I have yet to see him get anything right about Catholicism. He is not
even aware that by judging people as "not Christian" he has decided his own
judgment day according to Catholic teachings.

Mulligan

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On Dec 16, 2:46 pm, Alan Ferris <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:14:05 -0800, r...@somis.org ( RLMeasures) wrote:
> >In article <WLidnb2vbPLGtlPNnZ2dnUVZ_oqdn...@giganews.com>, Linuxgal
> ><teres...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>
> >> •RLMeasures wrote:
> >> > In article<5lsrc81kifdgvbe3seu5acu8c2p0lol...@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
> >> > <hairy.fer...@yahoo.co.uk>  wrote:
>
> >> >> >On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 08:10:07 -0600, duke<duckgumb...@cox.net>  wrote:
>
> >> >>>> > >>•  When the Christian captured Jerusalem during the Crusades
> >they packed
> >> >>>> > >>the Temple with all the Jews they could find, and bured it to the
> >> >>>> > >>ground.   Thank God I am not a Christian.
>
> >> >>> > >The crusades were a Christian action against the muslims to
> >prevent them from
> >> >>> > >destroying the Holy Land.
>
> >> >> >ROFLMAO!  I love the way duke can always be there to deny catholic
> >teachings.
> >> >> >Even when the church lies about the past, Earl will change even
> >their lie for
> >> >> >another one.
> >> >> >--
> >> > •  To critics of the RCC Earl is a godsend.
>
> >> Thing is, though, when you criticize Duke, you're not even criticizing
> >> the RCC, just Duke's own theology.  He's a Catholic In Name Only.
>
> >***  Some of his statements are semi-correct.
>
> When, I have yet to see him get anything right about Catholicism.

Do you have any moral code?

Following up to another one of your sockpuppets to make it appear your
alleged criticism of someone off usenet is valid
is duplicitous.

Mulligan

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On Dec 16, 2:18 pm, Martin <use...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
> On 16/12/2012 21:04, Mulligan wrote:
>
> > When duke talks about christians, he means catholics, that is his
> > perspective.
>
> > Are you illiterate?
>
> It seems you are.

Are you going to a swer the question, or keep proving my point?
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