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fasgnadh
Jan 31, 2012, 1:51:08 AM1/31/12
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On 31/01/2012 3:40 PM, Olrik wrote:
> Le 2012-01-30 17:25, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess a écrit :
>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>> acquisition:
>>
>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon the
>> honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>
> Well, it's not "atheism" per se,
No it isn't, It looks as if ALL of the atheist responses, like this
one, can't find ANYTHING about *atheism* which is FUN! 8^o
They all talk in the NEGATIVE defining themselves as NOT Religion.
"Not being.. " this or that ABOUT RELIGION!
They DEFINE themselves in terms of their Dopplegangers,
not able to find a SINGLE THING in ATHEISM ITSELF
which is fun;
> But not being shackled by religious dogmas
That's like a woman, asked what's great about being a woman
replying " Er, um... Not being a MAN" !!?!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHA
Then he goes on to describe 'liberty' as consuming
three things, which people who are NOT atheists
can also enjoy, including various religious folk:
> brings liberty,
The idea that atheism brings liberty is not merely a joke,
but a patent ABSURDITY given that NO ATHEIST REGIME IN HISTORY
EVERY BROUGHT LIBERTY!!!! B^p
And you can see why not when you see how this IDIOT atheist
DEFINES Liberty:
> which I might define thusly:
>
> Sex,
All religions celebrate procreation,
Hindus make it an artform, the Karma Sutra, you ignorant twonk
> pork, wine.
The most numerous religion on the planet, Christians,
enjoy bacon at breakfast and as for wine, you ridiculous tool,
IT's THEIR SACRED SACRAMENT!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
>> Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess
As distinct from Prophet Dawkin's claim that atheist "Gods came
into being....";
[ Isn't it fun to try and explain Atheist Dogma while people
are laughing at you: BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAA ]
--
Ex- Atheist, now Prophet, Richard Dawkins claims a "superpowerful
intelligent and moral energy" entity, "like God", is plausible and
could have 'evolved' somewhere in the Universe "by an explicable
scientific progression of incremental evolution", (which no
atheist can explain). B^D
# "After two hours of conversation, Professor Dawkins walks far afield.
# He talks of the possibility that we might co-evolve with computers, a
# silicon destiny. And he’s intrigued by the playful, even soul-stirring
# writings of Freeman Dyson, the theoretical physicist.
#
# 'In one essay, Professor Dyson casts millions of speculative years
# into the future. Our galaxy is dying and humans have evolved into
# something like bolts of superpowerful intelligent and moral energy.
#
# Doesn’t that description sound an awful lot like God?
#
# "Certainly," Professor Dawkins replies. "It’s highly plausible that
# in the universe there are God-like creatures."
#
# He raises his hand, just in case a reader thinks he’s gone around a
# religious bend. "It’s very important to understand that these Gods
# came into being by an explicable scientific progression of
# incremental evolution."'
#
# Could they be immortal? The professor shrugs.
#
# “Probably not.” He smiles and adds, “But I
# wouldn’t want to be too dogmatic about that.”"
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
So, which atheist is going to explain the inexplicable,
unscientific, BELIEF in "these {atheist] Gods", with no proof
whatsoever, and show us the evidence of how, and where, God evolved?
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http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl=en&dmode=source
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"We must combat religion"
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
“Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!”
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
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http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
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http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest
"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin
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> Le 2012-01-30 17:25, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess a écrit :
>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>> acquisition:
>>
>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon the
>> honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>
> Well, it's not "atheism" per se,
No it isn't, It looks as if ALL of the atheist responses, like this
one, can't find ANYTHING about *atheism* which is FUN! 8^o
They all talk in the NEGATIVE defining themselves as NOT Religion.
"Not being.. " this or that ABOUT RELIGION!
They DEFINE themselves in terms of their Dopplegangers,
not able to find a SINGLE THING in ATHEISM ITSELF
which is fun;
> But not being shackled by religious dogmas
That's like a woman, asked what's great about being a woman
replying " Er, um... Not being a MAN" !!?!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHA
Then he goes on to describe 'liberty' as consuming
three things, which people who are NOT atheists
can also enjoy, including various religious folk:
> brings liberty,
The idea that atheism brings liberty is not merely a joke,
but a patent ABSURDITY given that NO ATHEIST REGIME IN HISTORY
EVERY BROUGHT LIBERTY!!!! B^p
And you can see why not when you see how this IDIOT atheist
DEFINES Liberty:
> which I might define thusly:
>
> Sex,
All religions celebrate procreation,
Hindus make it an artform, the Karma Sutra, you ignorant twonk
> pork, wine.
The most numerous religion on the planet, Christians,
enjoy bacon at breakfast and as for wine, you ridiculous tool,
IT's THEIR SACRED SACRAMENT!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
>> Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess
As distinct from Prophet Dawkin's claim that atheist "Gods came
into being....";
[ Isn't it fun to try and explain Atheist Dogma while people
are laughing at you: BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAA ]
--
Ex- Atheist, now Prophet, Richard Dawkins claims a "superpowerful
intelligent and moral energy" entity, "like God", is plausible and
could have 'evolved' somewhere in the Universe "by an explicable
scientific progression of incremental evolution", (which no
atheist can explain). B^D
# "After two hours of conversation, Professor Dawkins walks far afield.
# He talks of the possibility that we might co-evolve with computers, a
# silicon destiny. And he’s intrigued by the playful, even soul-stirring
# writings of Freeman Dyson, the theoretical physicist.
#
# 'In one essay, Professor Dyson casts millions of speculative years
# into the future. Our galaxy is dying and humans have evolved into
# something like bolts of superpowerful intelligent and moral energy.
#
# Doesn’t that description sound an awful lot like God?
#
# "Certainly," Professor Dawkins replies. "It’s highly plausible that
# in the universe there are God-like creatures."
#
# He raises his hand, just in case a reader thinks he’s gone around a
# religious bend. "It’s very important to understand that these Gods
# came into being by an explicable scientific progression of
# incremental evolution."'
#
# Could they be immortal? The professor shrugs.
#
# “Probably not.” He smiles and adds, “But I
# wouldn’t want to be too dogmatic about that.”"
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
So, which atheist is going to explain the inexplicable,
unscientific, BELIEF in "these {atheist] Gods", with no proof
whatsoever, and show us the evidence of how, and where, God evolved?
...........................................................
...........................................................
...........................................................
---------
alt.atheism FAQ:
http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/
http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl=en&dmode=source
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"We must combat religion"
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
“Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!”
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest
"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-family_1001874c.jpg
fasgnadh
Jan 31, 2012, 1:59:11 AM1/31/12
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On 31/01/2012 9:53 AM, DanielSan wrote:
Apparently none of the atheists can name anything that is fun?
You are all sch a dour, dismal, despairing lot.. which is
why EVERY atheist regime is INFAMOUS for its dull grey dismal
conformity and monotony....
No it isn't, It looks as if ALL of the atheist responses, like this
one, can't find ANYTHING about *atheism* which is FUN! 8^o
They all talk in the NEGATIVE defining themselves as NOT Religion.
"Not being.. " this or that ABOUT RELIGION!
They DEFINE themselves in terms of their Dopplegangers,
not able to find a SINGLE THING in ATHEISM ITSELF
which is fun;
> My atheism is simply a lack of belief in deities.
And clearly such a trivial, useless and impotent
TO have any fun you would have to go..
> Beyond atheism,
Bingo
> I have materialism and humanism and sometimes I find that fun. :)
So leave out the Atheism and you have not lost any marginal utility
or fun, in life!
Precisely! atheism is useless and worthless..the irrelevant, impotent
ineffectual sub-branch of empty Nihilism...
it adds NOTHING to the good things in life.. sex, science, good food,
art, music, friendships, philosophy..compassion, love..
> On 1/30/2012 2:25 PM, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>> acquisition:
>>
>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon the
>> honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>
> I'm not sure, exactly, that I'd call *atheism* fun, per se.
>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>> acquisition:
>>
>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon the
>> honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>
Apparently none of the atheists can name anything that is fun?
You are all sch a dour, dismal, despairing lot.. which is
why EVERY atheist regime is INFAMOUS for its dull grey dismal
conformity and monotony....
No it isn't, It looks as if ALL of the atheist responses, like this
one, can't find ANYTHING about *atheism* which is FUN! 8^o
They all talk in the NEGATIVE defining themselves as NOT Religion.
"Not being.. " this or that ABOUT RELIGION!
They DEFINE themselves in terms of their Dopplegangers,
not able to find a SINGLE THING in ATHEISM ITSELF
which is fun;
And clearly such a trivial, useless and impotent
TO have any fun you would have to go..
> Beyond atheism,
Bingo
> I have materialism and humanism and sometimes I find that fun. :)
So leave out the Atheism and you have not lost any marginal utility
or fun, in life!
Precisely! atheism is useless and worthless..the irrelevant, impotent
ineffectual sub-branch of empty Nihilism...
it adds NOTHING to the good things in life.. sex, science, good food,
art, music, friendships, philosophy..compassion, love..
fasgnadh
Jan 31, 2012, 2:11:08 AM1/31/12
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sbalneav also can't find any fun in atheism:
> a lot of effort
true, it can't take much energy to say
"I don't believe in.. x"
> maintaining a lot of beliefs,
Sure, if you don't have kids or they don't love you
you don't have to believe you are loved.
I can see why you have no fun.
How would you describe your atheism, in relation
to the Fruits of the Spirit, "love, joy, peace,
forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
gentleness and self-control.
Against such things there is no law." - Galatians 5:22-23
> worries and fears that
> simply have no basis in fact, I find.
>
> What DOES happen, however, is that by being free to direct your
> intellect wherever the facts take you,
Ah clearly you live in one of the free, open, progressive
secular democracies built and sustained by MAJORITY religious
societies, not an atheist state, every one of which was a
TOTALITARIAN tyranny, oppressing intellectual freedom,
imposing the forced indoctrination of children, eradicating
freedom of belief, thought and speech and
"the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
- Daniel Peris,
"Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
"Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"
"Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.
In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over
3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.
Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water
in winter until they turned to ice-pillars.
-John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State
(Boston: Little Brown, 1953)
Aren't you lucky you live in a MAJORITY RELIGIOUS society
with DEMOCRACY and FREEDOM where
> you can spend more of your
> time learning about, and studying, the natural world around you.
> That, to me, is profoundly satisfying.
Thank God we don't live in atheist tyrannies, eh?
> As a bit of an amateur astronomer, the universe is simply a
> fascinating place full of interesting things to learn about.
Yes, all those theist Astronomers; Copernicus, Tycho, Galileo
sure taught you atheist flat-earthers something, eh?
> Nothing
> better than a hot thermos of tea on a cold, clear autumn night with
> the milky way o'erhead.
Amen to that brother, get as far from empty atheist Nihilism
and into the real world as you can!
> On 12-01-30 04:25 PM, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>> be?
>
> Atheism's only satisfying in so much as you're not having to expend
>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>> be?
>
> a lot of effort
true, it can't take much energy to say
"I don't believe in.. x"
> maintaining a lot of beliefs,
Sure, if you don't have kids or they don't love you
you don't have to believe you are loved.
I can see why you have no fun.
How would you describe your atheism, in relation
to the Fruits of the Spirit, "love, joy, peace,
forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
gentleness and self-control.
Against such things there is no law." - Galatians 5:22-23
> worries and fears that
> simply have no basis in fact, I find.
>
> What DOES happen, however, is that by being free to direct your
> intellect wherever the facts take you,
Ah clearly you live in one of the free, open, progressive
secular democracies built and sustained by MAJORITY religious
societies, not an atheist state, every one of which was a
TOTALITARIAN tyranny, oppressing intellectual freedom,
imposing the forced indoctrination of children, eradicating
freedom of belief, thought and speech and
"the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
- Daniel Peris,
"Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
"Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"
"Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.
In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over
3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.
Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water
in winter until they turned to ice-pillars.
-John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State
(Boston: Little Brown, 1953)
Aren't you lucky you live in a MAJORITY RELIGIOUS society
with DEMOCRACY and FREEDOM where
> you can spend more of your
> time learning about, and studying, the natural world around you.
> That, to me, is profoundly satisfying.
Thank God we don't live in atheist tyrannies, eh?
> As a bit of an amateur astronomer, the universe is simply a
> fascinating place full of interesting things to learn about.
Yes, all those theist Astronomers; Copernicus, Tycho, Galileo
sure taught you atheist flat-earthers something, eh?
> Nothing
> better than a hot thermos of tea on a cold, clear autumn night with
> the milky way o'erhead.
Amen to that brother, get as far from empty atheist Nihilism
and into the real world as you can!
fasgnadh
Jan 31, 2012, 2:51:29 AM1/31/12
to
On 31/01/2012 10:57 AM, Tronscend wrote:
> "Don Martin"<drdon...@comcast.net> skrev i melding
> news:5l9ei7dj1a5t9jlbl...@4ax.com...
>> based on "sins"
Another negative definition which ascribes the absence of guilt
to atheism, whereas others, such as agnostics, like myself, and
many religious don't feel guilt
> that are solely the creations of the religious imagination.
So freedom from that is not a unique property of atheism, per se.
However, wrongdoing such as Murder, as was practised in every atheist
regime, or lying, as in Pravda Propaganda, SHOULD produce guilt!
Not feeling it is, like lacking empathy for the victims,
the mark of sociopaths.
"The atheist states involved massive guilt and punitive 're-education'
for those who deviated from the party line, engaged in "Wrongthink",
or showed bourgeois/ reactionary counter-revolutionary thinking.
Public Self Criticism sessions publicly humiliated aged intellectuals
and others, who were beaten and forced to wear self-denouncing placards
and dunces hats.. or worse.. sent to Gulags, "re-Education" camps and
Lunatic asylums to brainwash those who thought and believed contrary to
the Atheist Regime's Group Mind.
They were far more oppressive than the free open, progressive secular
democracies built by majority religious populations, which we all
enjoy living in.. even you atheist hypocrites!
>> Whatever guilts I do experience are
>> firmly based on the reality of my own actions toward others,
And you don't thatink that's how people other than atheists,
including religious people, feel guilt?
You clearly haven't read Freud or Jung! B^D
>> I also enjoy the fact that I can behave
>> decently on my own hook, without the carrot of reward or the stick of
>> punishment
>> directing my behavior toward other people, animals, and the world in
>> general.
So you are now complaining about our secular legal and justice systems.
And how, exactly does atheism contribute to your behaviour being 'on a
hook'? WTF?
> Seconded.
>
> T
Two more atheists who don't get ANY fun from atheism per se,
but claim it's all about NOT being religious.. defined in the empty
negative, with no evidence that atheism is the sole alternative to
the problems discussed.
"He's glad he stays dry on rainy days by never leaving his house,
others achieve the same with cars, umbrellas, raincoats etc etc"
That's his fun.. not leaving the house. pffft
Atheism, the most trivial, impotent, ineffectual, useless,
sub branch of pointless Nihilism.
The only fun they have is pretending that they are superior
to religious people.. the very definition of REACTIONARIES.
> "Don Martin"<drdon...@comcast.net> skrev i melding
> news:5l9ei7dj1a5t9jlbl...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:25:10 -0800 (PST), "Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess"
>> <fidem....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>> <fidem....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>> acquisition:
>>
>> My atheism is satisfying to me in that it frees me from guilt
>>> acquisition:
>>
>> based on "sins"
Another negative definition which ascribes the absence of guilt
to atheism, whereas others, such as agnostics, like myself, and
many religious don't feel guilt
> that are solely the creations of the religious imagination.
So freedom from that is not a unique property of atheism, per se.
However, wrongdoing such as Murder, as was practised in every atheist
regime, or lying, as in Pravda Propaganda, SHOULD produce guilt!
Not feeling it is, like lacking empathy for the victims,
the mark of sociopaths.
"The atheist states involved massive guilt and punitive 're-education'
for those who deviated from the party line, engaged in "Wrongthink",
or showed bourgeois/ reactionary counter-revolutionary thinking.
Public Self Criticism sessions publicly humiliated aged intellectuals
and others, who were beaten and forced to wear self-denouncing placards
and dunces hats.. or worse.. sent to Gulags, "re-Education" camps and
Lunatic asylums to brainwash those who thought and believed contrary to
the Atheist Regime's Group Mind.
They were far more oppressive than the free open, progressive secular
democracies built by majority religious populations, which we all
enjoy living in.. even you atheist hypocrites!
>> Whatever guilts I do experience are
>> firmly based on the reality of my own actions toward others,
And you don't thatink that's how people other than atheists,
including religious people, feel guilt?
You clearly haven't read Freud or Jung! B^D
>> I also enjoy the fact that I can behave
>> decently on my own hook, without the carrot of reward or the stick of
>> punishment
>> directing my behavior toward other people, animals, and the world in
>> general.
So you are now complaining about our secular legal and justice systems.
And how, exactly does atheism contribute to your behaviour being 'on a
hook'? WTF?
> Seconded.
>
> T
Two more atheists who don't get ANY fun from atheism per se,
but claim it's all about NOT being religious.. defined in the empty
negative, with no evidence that atheism is the sole alternative to
the problems discussed.
"He's glad he stays dry on rainy days by never leaving his house,
others achieve the same with cars, umbrellas, raincoats etc etc"
That's his fun.. not leaving the house. pffft
Atheism, the most trivial, impotent, ineffectual, useless,
sub branch of pointless Nihilism.
The only fun they have is pretending that they are superior
to religious people.. the very definition of REACTIONARIES.
fasgnadh
Jan 31, 2012, 6:56:31 AM1/31/12
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Fidem Turbare, trys to twist the atheist admission: NO FUN in ATHEISM :
>>> I'm not sure, exactly, that I'd call *atheism* fun, per se.
<Unsnip> the atheist liars attempt to bury the logical argument
rather than debate it, is clearly fraudulent as this is NOT
"the same question/claim in various forms";
>> Apparently none of the atheists can name anything that is fun?
>
>
> Your assumption is illogical
you snipped my argument, I made no assumption, therefore
it can't be an illogical one.
> because what is fun for one person may not be fun for someone else.
Irrelevant you feeble atheist tool, as NONE OF THEM CLAIMED
*ANYTHING* was fun in atheism!!!!! B^D
Can't you even READ what they said, you lying atheist FRAUD: B^D
"I'm not sure, exactly, that I'd call *atheism* fun, per se."
And you try and bullshit us that is a description of FUN?
That it's a question of 'EYE of the BEHOLDER..'? pffffft! BULLSHIT!
So, they ALL SAY THE SAME.. NOTHING about ATHEISM is fun! B^]
Just because you didn't get the RESULTS you wanted does not mean
you can FUDGE THE DATA.. that just shows the atheist contempt
for REAL science and logic! B^]
Now you just REPEAT the same BULLSHIT "question/claim in various forms"
> Each person defines fun in accordance
> with their personality, values, interests, and desires (and very
> likely many other factors).
That's a red herring.. no one is questioning some atheists 'definition
of fun' they just CAN'T FIND ANYTHING about atheism that IS fun!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAA
>> You are all such a dour, dismal, despairing lot.. which is
>> So leave out the Atheism and you have not lost any marginal utility
>> or fun, in life!
>>
>> Precisely! atheism is useless and worthless..the irrelevant, impotent
>> ineffectual sub-branch of empty Nihilism...
>> it adds NOTHING to the good things in life.. sex, science, good
>> food, art, music, friendships, philosophy..compassion, love..
>>
> Additionally, the first paragraph of my message clarifies "fun or
> profoundly satisfying"as the suggested criteria.
Yawn... you are really trying too hard.. none of them had
ANYTHING of significance to say about ATHEISM.. it was all
"Atheism let me eat pork and drink.." Well no, lots of NON atheists
do that! And it's NOT fun from ATHEISM.
"Atheism means I don't have religion.." tautology.. still NO FUN
(It doesn't really
> matter though because satisfaction often qualifies as a subtle form of
> fun.)
Oh fer fucks sake...
go play with yourself you boring illogical twonk!
> On Jan 30, 10:59 pm, fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 31/01/2012 9:53 AM, DanielSan wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/30/2012 2:25 PM, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>>> acquisition:
>>
>>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon the
>>>> honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
Liar you snipped and misrepresented my argument!
>> On 31/01/2012 9:53 AM, DanielSan wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/30/2012 2:25 PM, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>>> acquisition:
>>
>>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon the
>>>> honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>> I'm not sure, exactly, that I'd call *atheism* fun, per se.
No it isn't, It looks as if ALL of the atheist responses, like this
one, can't find ANYTHING about *atheism* which is FUN! 8^o
[snip -- the same question/claim in various forms]
one, can't find ANYTHING about *atheism* which is FUN! 8^o
<Unsnip> the atheist liars attempt to bury the logical argument
rather than debate it, is clearly fraudulent as this is NOT
"the same question/claim in various forms";
>> Apparently none of the atheists can name anything that is fun?
>
>
you snipped my argument, I made no assumption, therefore
it can't be an illogical one.
> because what is fun for one person may not be fun for someone else.
Irrelevant you feeble atheist tool, as NONE OF THEM CLAIMED
*ANYTHING* was fun in atheism!!!!! B^D
Can't you even READ what they said, you lying atheist FRAUD: B^D
"I'm not sure, exactly, that I'd call *atheism* fun, per se."
That it's a question of 'EYE of the BEHOLDER..'? pffffft! BULLSHIT!
So, they ALL SAY THE SAME.. NOTHING about ATHEISM is fun! B^]
Just because you didn't get the RESULTS you wanted does not mean
you can FUDGE THE DATA.. that just shows the atheist contempt
for REAL science and logic! B^]
Now you just REPEAT the same BULLSHIT "question/claim in various forms"
> Each person defines fun in accordance
> with their personality, values, interests, and desires (and very
> likely many other factors).
That's a red herring.. no one is questioning some atheists 'definition
of fun' they just CAN'T FIND ANYTHING about atheism that IS fun!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAA
>> You are all such a dour, dismal, despairing lot.. which is
>> why EVERY atheist regime is INFAMOUS for its dull grey dismal
>> conformity and monotony....
>>
>> They all talk in the NEGATIVE, defining themselves as NOT Religion.
>> conformity and monotony....
>>
>>
>> "Not being.. " this or that ABOUT RELIGION!
>>
>> They DEFINE themselves in terms of their Dopplegangers,
>> not able to find a SINGLE THING in ATHEISM ITSELF
>> which is fun;
>>
>>
>>> My atheism is simply a lack of belief in deities.
>>
>> And clearly such a trivial, useless and impotent
>> non-belief in something is NOT FUN
>> "Not being.. " this or that ABOUT RELIGION!
>>
>> They DEFINE themselves in terms of their Dopplegangers,
>> not able to find a SINGLE THING in ATHEISM ITSELF
>> which is fun;
>>
>>
>>> My atheism is simply a lack of belief in deities.
>>
>> And clearly such a trivial, useless and impotent
>>
>> TO have any fun you would have to go..
>>
>>> Beyond atheism,
>>
>> Bingo
>>
>>> I have materialism and humanism and sometimes I find that fun. :)
But thats not atheism, is it!? ..Nothing about atheism is fun, to you.
>> TO have any fun you would have to go..
>>
>>> Beyond atheism,
>>
>> Bingo
>>
>>> I have materialism and humanism and sometimes I find that fun. :)
>> So leave out the Atheism and you have not lost any marginal utility
>> or fun, in life!
>>
>> Precisely! atheism is useless and worthless..the irrelevant, impotent
>> ineffectual sub-branch of empty Nihilism...
>> it adds NOTHING to the good things in life.. sex, science, good
>> food, art, music, friendships, philosophy..compassion, love..
>>
> profoundly satisfying"as the suggested criteria.
Yawn... you are really trying too hard.. none of them had
ANYTHING of significance to say about ATHEISM.. it was all
"Atheism let me eat pork and drink.." Well no, lots of NON atheists
do that! And it's NOT fun from ATHEISM.
"Atheism means I don't have religion.." tautology.. still NO FUN
(It doesn't really
> matter though because satisfaction often qualifies as a subtle form of
> fun.)
Oh fer fucks sake...
go play with yourself you boring illogical twonk!
fasgnadh
Jan 31, 2012, 7:07:29 AM1/31/12
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On 31/01/2012 8:02 PM, DanielSan wrote:
> I find the Half-Life series of video games fun. I sometimes find
> debating politics and religion fun. I find what I'm working on to learn
> for my dream career fun.
But none of them are atheism.. they have NOTHING to do with the
question "how or why atheism is fun"
You have already answered that, and told us IT ISN'T.
Too late to try and weasel Word your way out now! B^]
>>
>> You are all such a dour, dismal, despairing lot.. which is
But you couldn't name one thing about ATHEISM which WAS fun!
Q.E.D.
> fasgnadh has, once again, completely
destroyed your attempt to pretend this argument
was about *YOU HAVING FUN*.. it isn't, it wasn't ever
about that, you pathetic lying fraud!
You were asked "how or why ATHEISM is fun" and you couldn't
name ONE thing about atheism that was fun, you whimpered:
"I'm not sure, exactly, that I'd call *atheism* fun, per se"
and now you have
> idiotically distorted and misrepresented what was said.
Yup, you lying atheist shitpig! B^]
> On 1/31/2012 12:29 AM, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>> On Jan 30, 10:59 pm, fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 30, 10:59 pm, fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On 31/01/2012 9:53 AM, DanielSan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/30/2012 2:25 PM, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>>>> acquisition:
>>>
>>>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon the
>>>>> honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>>
>>>> I'm not sure, exactly, that I'd call *atheism* fun, per se.
>>>
>>>> On 1/30/2012 2:25 PM, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>>>> acquisition:
>>>
>>>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon the
>>>>> honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>>
>>>> I'm not sure, exactly, that I'd call *atheism* fun, per se.
No it isn't, It looks as if ALL of the atheist responses, like this
one, can't find ANYTHING about *atheism* which is FUN! 8^o
> I find traveling fun. I find amusement parks fun. I find Halloween fun.
one, can't find ANYTHING about *atheism* which is FUN! 8^o
> I find the Half-Life series of video games fun. I sometimes find
> debating politics and religion fun. I find what I'm working on to learn
> for my dream career fun.
But none of them are atheism.. they have NOTHING to do with the
question "how or why atheism is fun"
You have already answered that, and told us IT ISN'T.
Too late to try and weasel Word your way out now! B^]
No it isn't, It looks as if ALL of the atheist responses, like this
one, can't find ANYTHING about *atheism* which is FUN! 8^o
one, can't find ANYTHING about *atheism* which is FUN! 8^o
>> Apparently none of the atheists can name anything that is fun
>> ABOUT ATHEISM?
>>
>> You are all such a dour, dismal, despairing lot.. which is
>> why EVERY atheist regime is INFAMOUS for its dull grey dismal
>> conformity and monotony....
>>
>> They all talk in the NEGATIVE, defining themselves as NOT Religion.
>> conformity and monotony....
>>
>>
>> "Not being.. " this or that ABOUT RELIGION!
>>
>> They DEFINE themselves in terms of their Dopplegangers,
>> not able to find a SINGLE THING in ATHEISM ITSELF
>> which is fun;
>>
>>
>>> My atheism is simply a lack of belief in deities.
>>
>> And clearly such a trivial, useless and impotent
>> "Not being.. " this or that ABOUT RELIGION!
>>
>> They DEFINE themselves in terms of their Dopplegangers,
>> not able to find a SINGLE THING in ATHEISM ITSELF
>> which is fun;
>>
>>
>>> My atheism is simply a lack of belief in deities.
>>
>> And clearly such a trivial, useless and impotent
>> non-belief in something is NOT FUN
>>
>>
>> TO have any fun you would have to go..
>>
>>> Beyond atheism,
>>
>> Bingo
>>
>>> I have materialism and humanism and sometimes I find that fun.
>>
>>> Beyond atheism,
>>
>> Bingo
>>
>>> I have materialism and humanism and sometimes I find that fun.
But thats not atheism, is it!? ..Nothing about atheism is fun, to you.
>> So, leave out the Atheism and you have not lost any marginal utility
>> or fun, in life!
>>
>> Precisely! atheism is useless and worthless..the irrelevant, impotent
>> ineffectual sub-branch of empty Nihilism...
>> it adds NOTHING to the good things in life.. sex, science, good
>> food, art, music, friendships, philosophy..compassion, love..
>>
>
> I find many things fun.
>>
>> Precisely! atheism is useless and worthless..the irrelevant, impotent
>> ineffectual sub-branch of empty Nihilism...
>> it adds NOTHING to the good things in life.. sex, science, good
>> food, art, music, friendships, philosophy..compassion, love..
>>
>
But you couldn't name one thing about ATHEISM which WAS fun!
Q.E.D.
> fasgnadh has, once again, completely
destroyed your attempt to pretend this argument
was about *YOU HAVING FUN*.. it isn't, it wasn't ever
about that, you pathetic lying fraud!
You were asked "how or why ATHEISM is fun" and you couldn't
name ONE thing about atheism that was fun, you whimpered:
"I'm not sure, exactly, that I'd call *atheism* fun, per se"
> idiotically distorted and misrepresented what was said.
Yup, you lying atheist shitpig! B^]
fasgnadh
Jan 31, 2012, 7:17:11 AM1/31/12
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MarkA found no fun in atheism:
Clearly it doesn't:
> I understand why the supernatural would be welcome.
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6349?context=latest
Sure atheists bang on endlessly about the Supernatural, Zombies,
Prophet Dawkins and his evolved Gods... pffft!
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:25:10 -0800, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>
>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>> acquisition:
>>
>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon the
>> honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>
> I find atheism to be satisfying because it eliminates the supernatural
>
>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>> acquisition:
>>
>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon the
>> honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>
Clearly it doesn't:
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6349?context=latest
Sure atheists bang on endlessly about the Supernatural, Zombies,
Prophet Dawkins and his evolved Gods... pffft!
fasgnadh
Jan 31, 2012, 7:25:37 AM1/31/12
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> that is used to distort.
Thanks, I've also exposed complete hypocrisy and lies.
> Although these distortions are useful as temporary
> alternatives to voids in one's knowledge,
Not really, "Zombies" is childish nonsense.. grow up.
> it seems that people who are not comfortable
> with the feeling of "not knowing"
become atheists, instead of accepting NOT knowing
and being AGNOSTICS...and
> take great comfort in the permanent use of these assumptions
> -- I suspect the exploiters and oppressors know this well.
I'm sure you can speak for them.
> Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess
fasgnadh
Jan 31, 2012, 7:28:19 AM1/31/12
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On 31/01/2012 1:57 PM, Don Martin wrote:
> Doc Smartass<Fortbr...@yahoobrick.com> wrote:
>
>> "Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess"<fidem....@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:553e783b-6839-43cd...@ov1g2000pbb.googlegroups.com:
Along with all the other atheist sheep;
http://www.thearchetypalconnection.com/images/RedGuardsLow.JPG
So no fun in atheism there, either!
> Well done, that man!
Thanks. B^]
> aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
> BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
> Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Where's the fun in Brutal Atheist Animals Without Agape - BAAWA?;
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We kill theists and shit down their throats and
# not in a girly way.
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
Not satisfied with murder, Steve favours GENOCIDE
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
# Subject: Re: Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
# Message-ID: <8t6ve5hs41qn3a2rv...@4ax.com>
# Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:18 -0800
#
# On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:32 +0200, "Katrina"
# <blondes_g...@yahoo.com> wrote:
#
# >Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
#
# It is the most foul, disgusting filth on Earth.
# The sooner we nuke you fuckers, the better.
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
> Doc Smartass<Fortbr...@yahoobrick.com> wrote:
>
>> "Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess"<fidem....@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:553e783b-6839-43cd...@ov1g2000pbb.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>> acquisition:
>>>
>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon the
>>> honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>
>> My mind is mine alone.
>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>> acquisition:
>>>
>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon the
>>> honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>
Along with all the other atheist sheep;
http://www.thearchetypalconnection.com/images/RedGuardsLow.JPG
So no fun in atheism there, either!
> Well done, that man!
Thanks. B^]
> aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
> BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
> Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Where's the fun in Brutal Atheist Animals Without Agape - BAAWA?;
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We kill theists and shit down their throats and
# not in a girly way.
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
Not satisfied with murder, Steve favours GENOCIDE
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
# Subject: Re: Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
# Message-ID: <8t6ve5hs41qn3a2rv...@4ax.com>
# Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:18 -0800
#
# On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:32 +0200, "Katrina"
# <blondes_g...@yahoo.com> wrote:
#
# >Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
#
# It is the most foul, disgusting filth on Earth.
# The sooner we nuke you fuckers, the better.
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
fasgnadh
Jan 31, 2012, 7:42:07 AM1/31/12
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On 31/01/2012 2:03 PM, Robert Parker wrote:
This is what gets the BAAWA atheist thug's rocks off;
May atheist have fun offending others:
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6349?context=latest
> The few friend I have are not deceived.
It's not unusual.. that you have few friends,
nor that they are not deceived, few mature adults
are sucked in by atheists.
> But it's not any fun.
of course not, you poor little possum, but why be happy
when you have the smug self-satisfaction of atheist hubris?
B^D
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:25:10 -0800 (PST), "Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess"<fidem....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>> be?
None of them have been honest...
> wrote:
>
>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>> be?
This is what gets the BAAWA atheist thug's rocks off;
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6349?context=latest
> The few friend I have are not deceived.
It's not unusual.. that you have few friends,
nor that they are not deceived, few mature adults
are sucked in by atheists.
> But it's not any fun.
of course not, you poor little possum, but why be happy
when you have the smug self-satisfaction of atheist hubris?
B^D
Errol
Jan 31, 2012, 9:17:42 AM1/31/12
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On Jan 31, 8:51 am, fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> No it isn't, It looks as if ALL of the atheist responses, like this
> one, can't find ANYTHING about *atheism* which is FUN! 8^o
>
> They all talk in the NEGATIVE defining themselves as NOT Religion.
>
>
hahhaha
> No it isn't, It looks as if ALL of the atheist responses, like this
> one, can't find ANYTHING about *atheism* which is FUN! 8^o
>
> They all talk in the NEGATIVE defining themselves as NOT Religion.
>
>
Is it fun believing in the flying spaghetti monster?
hahahaha
It's even more fun laughing at you god botherers
other things I like about atheism
no hell
no heaven
no angry god wanting me to kill my progeny
no angels to nuke my town
no trying to impress my neighbours at church with my piousness
no having to believe in superstition and fairy stories (like the red
sea parting for moses)
tell us about the fun you have in church drinking the blood of christ
fasgnadh
Jan 31, 2012, 1:48:27 PM1/31/12
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>> "Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess"<fidem....@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:553e783b-6839-43cd...@ov1g2000pbb.googlegroups.com:
Thanks. B^]
> aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
> BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
> Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Where's the fun in Brutal Atheist Animals Without Agape - BAAWA?;
>> news:553e783b-6839-43cd...@ov1g2000pbb.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>> acquisition:
>>>
>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon the
>>> honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>
>> My mind is mine alone.
Along with all the other atheist sheep;
http://www.thearchetypalconnection.com/images/RedGuardsLow.JPG
So no fun in atheism there, either!
> Nicely put!
>>> acquisition:
>>>
>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon the
>>> honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>
>> My mind is mine alone.
Along with all the other atheist sheep;
http://www.thearchetypalconnection.com/images/RedGuardsLow.JPG
So no fun in atheism there, either!
Thanks. B^]
> aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
> BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
> Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Where's the fun in Brutal Atheist Animals Without Agape - BAAWA?;
The Demon of Mockery
Jan 31, 2012, 3:54:04 PM1/31/12
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Hail Eris! On Jan 31, 4:28 am, fasgnadh wrote:
> On 31/01/2012 1:57 PM, Don Martin wrote:
> > Doc Smartass wrote:
> On 31/01/2012 1:57 PM, Don Martin wrote:
> >> "Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess" wrote:
>
> >>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
> >>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
> >>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
> >>> acquisition:
>
> >>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon the
> >>> honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>
> >> My mind is mine alone.
>
> Along with all the other atheist sheep;
>
> http://www.thearchetypalconnection.com/images/RedGuardsLow.JPG
>
> So no fun in atheism there, either!
>
> > Well done, that man!
>
> Thanks. B^]
>
> > aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
> > BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
> > Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
>
> Where's the fun in Brutal Atheist Animals Without Agape - BAAWA?;
Thanks for all the campaigning, d00d. You are a cinch to win at least
> >>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
> >>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
> >>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
> >>> acquisition:
>
> >>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon the
> >>> honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>
> >> My mind is mine alone.
>
> Along with all the other atheist sheep;
>
> http://www.thearchetypalconnection.com/images/RedGuardsLow.JPG
>
> So no fun in atheism there, either!
>
> > Well done, that man!
>
> Thanks. B^]
>
> > aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
> > BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
> > Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
>
> Where's the fun in Brutal Atheist Animals Without Agape - BAAWA?;
a couple awards...
Snarky
Doc Smartass
Jan 31, 2012, 5:29:56 PM1/31/12
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The Demon of Mockery <popes...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:af389fdc-1fa4-41f3...@ih8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com:
Wow--frognads actually replied to me! *swoon*
I feel so bad for having him killfiled :(~~~~
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling aa # 1939
Kooks! http://kookclearinghouse.blogspot.com/
Books! http://jw-bookblog.blogspot.com/
There are several tax-free, government-free places in this world...
They're called "failed states."
news:af389fdc-1fa4-41f3...@ih8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com:
I feel so bad for having him killfiled :(~~~~
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling aa # 1939
Kooks! http://kookclearinghouse.blogspot.com/
Books! http://jw-bookblog.blogspot.com/
There are several tax-free, government-free places in this world...
They're called "failed states."
Paul David Wright
Jan 31, 2012, 8:45:12 PM1/31/12
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fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:cjMVq.2620$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com:
>
> On 31/01/2012 9:53 AM, DanielSan wrote:
>> On 1/30/2012 2:25 PM, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>> acquisition:
>>>
>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon
>>> the honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>
>> I'm not sure, exactly, that I'd call *atheism* fun, per se.
>
> Apparently none of the atheists can name anything that is fun?
>
>
Apperently you cannot stop lying, Failednuts.
Your twisted, insane, hysterical hatred of us does you no favors.
--
PDW
Check out my blog:
The first is a preview of my superhero comic book.
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news:cjMVq.2620$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com:
>
> On 31/01/2012 9:53 AM, DanielSan wrote:
>> On 1/30/2012 2:25 PM, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>> acquisition:
>>>
>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon
>>> the honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>
>> I'm not sure, exactly, that I'd call *atheism* fun, per se.
>
> Apparently none of the atheists can name anything that is fun?
>
>
Your twisted, insane, hysterical hatred of us does you no favors.
--
PDW
Check out my blog:
The first is a preview of my superhero comic book.
http://incognitoheroes.blogspot.com/
http://corneliusaddaptionproject.blogspot.com/
And my books:
http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/pdwright42
Paul David Wright
Jan 31, 2012, 8:47:46 PM1/31/12
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fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:fQQVq.2636$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com:
>
> On 31/01/2012 8:02 PM, DanielSan wrote:
>> On 1/31/2012 12:29 AM, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>>> On Jan 30, 10:59 pm, fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On 31/01/2012 9:53 AM, DanielSan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/30/2012 2:25 PM, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>>>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that
>>>>>> statement be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of
>>>>>> knowledge acquisition:
>>>>
>>>>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then,
>>>>>> upon the honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure, exactly, that I'd call *atheism* fun, per se.
>
> No it isn't, It looks as if ALL of the atheist responses, like this
> one, can't find ANYTHING about *atheism* which is FUN! 8^o
>
>
Looks more like your red hot, snearing, hysterical hatred has blinded
you to the point of insanity, Failednuts.
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>
> On 31/01/2012 8:02 PM, DanielSan wrote:
>> On 1/31/2012 12:29 AM, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>>> On Jan 30, 10:59 pm, fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On 31/01/2012 9:53 AM, DanielSan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/30/2012 2:25 PM, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>>>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that
>>>>>> statement be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of
>>>>>> knowledge acquisition:
>>>>
>>>>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then,
>>>>>> upon the honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure, exactly, that I'd call *atheism* fun, per se.
>
> No it isn't, It looks as if ALL of the atheist responses, like this
> one, can't find ANYTHING about *atheism* which is FUN! 8^o
>
>
you to the point of insanity, Failednuts.
Paul David Wright
Jan 31, 2012, 8:48:46 PM1/31/12
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fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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>
> Fidem Turbare, trys to twist the atheist admission: NO FUN in
> ATHEISM :
>> On Jan 30, 10:59 pm, fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On 31/01/2012 9:53 AM, DanielSan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/30/2012 2:25 PM, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>>>> acquisition:
>>>
>>>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon
>>>>> the honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>
> Liar you snipped and misrepresented my argument!
>
You don't have an argument beyond "I hate atheists. They suck. They must
be destroyed."
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>
> Fidem Turbare, trys to twist the atheist admission: NO FUN in
> ATHEISM :
>> On Jan 30, 10:59 pm, fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On 31/01/2012 9:53 AM, DanielSan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/30/2012 2:25 PM, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>>>> acquisition:
>>>
>>>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon
>>>>> the honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>
> Liar you snipped and misrepresented my argument!
>
be destroyed."
Paul David Wright
Jan 31, 2012, 8:49:53 PM1/31/12
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fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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>
> On 31/01/2012 11:17 AM, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>> MarkA found no fun in atheism:
>>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:25:10 -0800, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>>> acquisition:
>>>>
>>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon
>>>> the honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>>
>>> I find atheism to be satisfying because it eliminates the
>>> supernatural
>
> Clearly it doesn't:
>
Still talking out yer ass, I see.
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>
> On 31/01/2012 11:17 AM, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>> MarkA found no fun in atheism:
>>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:25:10 -0800, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>>> acquisition:
>>>>
>>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon
>>>> the honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>>
>>> I find atheism to be satisfying because it eliminates the
>>> supernatural
>
> Clearly it doesn't:
>
Paul David Wright
Jan 31, 2012, 8:50:31 PM1/31/12
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fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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>
> MarkA found no fun in atheism:
>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:25:10 -0800, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>> acquisition:
>>>
>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon
>>> the honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>
>> I find atheism to be satisfying because it eliminates the
>> supernatural
>
> Clearly it doesn't:
>
Repeating yer lies will not make them facts, bigot.
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>
> MarkA found no fun in atheism:
>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:25:10 -0800, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>> acquisition:
>>>
>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon
>>> the honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>
>> I find atheism to be satisfying because it eliminates the
>> supernatural
>
> Clearly it doesn't:
>
Paul David Wright
Jan 31, 2012, 8:51:19 PM1/31/12
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fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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>
> On 31/01/2012 1:57 PM, Don Martin wrote:
>> Doc Smartass<Fortbr...@yahoobrick.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess"<fidem....@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:553e783b-6839-43cd-9e45-c0a050b7a679
@ov1g2000pbb.googlegroups.co
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>
> On 31/01/2012 1:57 PM, Don Martin wrote:
>> Doc Smartass<Fortbr...@yahoobrick.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess"<fidem....@gmail.com> wrote in
@ov1g2000pbb.googlegroups.co
>>> m:
>>>
>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>>> acquisition:
>>>>
>>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon
>>>> the honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>>
>>> My mind is mine alone.
>
> Along with all the other atheist sheep;
>
>
Nope. Only sheep here is you, lying bigot.
>>>
>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>>> acquisition:
>>>>
>>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon
>>>> the honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>>
>>> My mind is mine alone.
>
> Along with all the other atheist sheep;
>
>
Paul David Wright
Jan 31, 2012, 8:53:30 PM1/31/12
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fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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>
> On 31/01/2012 10:57 AM, Tronscend wrote:
>> "Don Martin"<drdon...@comcast.net> skrev i melding
>> news:5l9ei7dj1a5t9jlbl...@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:25:10 -0800 (PST), "Fidem Turbare, atheist
>>> goddess" <fidem....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>>> acquisition:
>>>
>>> My atheism is satisfying to me in that it frees me from guilt
> >> based on "sins"
>
> Another negative definition which ascribes the absence of guilt
> to atheism, whereas others, such as agnostics, like myself, and
> many religious don't feel guilt
>
Another lie by the guy who lets his overwhelming, hysterical and
murderous hatred for unbelievers blind him.
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>
> On 31/01/2012 10:57 AM, Tronscend wrote:
>> "Don Martin"<drdon...@comcast.net> skrev i melding
>> news:5l9ei7dj1a5t9jlbl...@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:25:10 -0800 (PST), "Fidem Turbare, atheist
>>> goddess" <fidem....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>>> acquisition:
>>>
>>> My atheism is satisfying to me in that it frees me from guilt
> >> based on "sins"
>
> Another negative definition which ascribes the absence of guilt
> to atheism, whereas others, such as agnostics, like myself, and
> many religious don't feel guilt
>
murderous hatred for unbelievers blind him.
Paul David Wright
Jan 31, 2012, 8:54:27 PM1/31/12
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fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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>
>
> On 31/01/2012 2:03 PM, Robert Parker wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:25:10 -0800 (PST), "Fidem Turbare, atheist
>> goddess"<fidem....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>> be?
>
> None of them have been honest...
>
Nope.
The only not being honest is YOU.
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>
>
> On 31/01/2012 2:03 PM, Robert Parker wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:25:10 -0800 (PST), "Fidem Turbare, atheist
>> goddess"<fidem....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>> be?
>
> None of them have been honest...
>
The only not being honest is YOU.
Paul David Wright
Jan 31, 2012, 8:55:59 PM1/31/12
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fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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>
> sbalneav also can't find any fun in atheism:
>> On 12-01-30 04:25 PM, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>> be?
>>
>> Atheism's only satisfying in so much as you're not having to expend
>> a lot of effort
> true, it can't take much energy to say
>
> "I don't believe in.. x"
>
You'll never understand our position until you release your
overwhelming, murderous, hysterical hatred of us from your puny system,
Failednuts.
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>
> sbalneav also can't find any fun in atheism:
>> On 12-01-30 04:25 PM, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>> be?
>>
>> Atheism's only satisfying in so much as you're not having to expend
>> a lot of effort
> true, it can't take much energy to say
>
> "I don't believe in.. x"
>
overwhelming, murderous, hysterical hatred of us from your puny system,
Failednuts.
Paul David Wright
Jan 31, 2012, 9:02:32 PM1/31/12
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fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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>
> On 31/01/2012 3:40 PM, Olrik wrote:
>> Le 2012-01-30 17:25, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess a écrit :
>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>> acquisition:
>>>
>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon
>>> the honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>
>> Well, it's not "atheism" per se,
>
> No it isn't,
Yes, it is, Failednuts.
Sorry we're not saying what you want to hear, but that's life, asshole.
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>
> On 31/01/2012 3:40 PM, Olrik wrote:
>> Le 2012-01-30 17:25, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess a écrit :
>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>> acquisition:
>>>
>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon
>>> the honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>
>> Well, it's not "atheism" per se,
>
> No it isn't,
Sorry we're not saying what you want to hear, but that's life, asshole.
fasgnadh
Feb 1, 2012, 4:29:32 AM2/1/12
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Errol snipped and ranted:
Even other atheists are laughing at you: B^]
> hahhaha
>
> Is it fun believing in the flying spaghetti monster?
I give up, tell us?
> hahahaha
>
> It's even more fun laughing at you god botherers
I don't think I bother God, I'm an agnostic.
Nice rant, pity you based it all on your
idiotic, illogical and plain wrong assumption
that if I criticise atheism, then I must be a theist! B^D
Nope, you must be a moron.
> other things I like about atheism
>
> no hell
I don't have a hell and I'm not an atheist.
> no heaven
"heaven is my baby's smile"
> no angry god wanting me to kill my progeny
I don't have an angry God and I'm not an atheist.
> no angels to nuke my town
Angels never nuked my town, and atheism had
nothing to do with it.
> no trying to impress my neighbours at church with my piousness
I don't try to impress my neighbours, don't go to church
and am certainly not pius, you stupid fuckwit..
and atheism had nothing to do with it!
> no having to believe in superstition and fairy stories (like the red
> sea parting for moses)
Most people who don't believe in fairy stories are NOT atheists
> tell us about the fun you have in church drinking the blood of christ
Wow, do you look stupid, Dumbo.. I don't attend church and
have never drunk blood...
Nice rant you got going there! You appear to be a fucking LUNATIC! B^D
And nothing you claimed to enjoy depends on being an atheist,
because others, not atheist, enjoy the same NEGATIVELY DEFINED
advantages of NOT experiencing something.
Atheism is definitely no fun for you poor desperate atheist tools,
struggling to find something, ANYTHING to say about being atheists!
B^D
Dawkins is having fun.. he's milked all you atheist suckers
for Book Sales, and now he's going over to the theist side
for the BIGGER MARKET: BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAA!
> On 31/01/2012 5:51 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> On 31/01/2012 3:40 PM, Olrik wrote:
>>> Le 2012-01-30 17:25, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess a écrit :
>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>>> acquisition:
>>>>
>>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon the
>>>> honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>>
>>> Well, it's not "atheism" per se,
>>
>> On 31/01/2012 3:40 PM, Olrik wrote:
>>> Le 2012-01-30 17:25, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess a écrit :
>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>>> acquisition:
>>>>
>>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon the
>>>> honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>>
>>> Well, it's not "atheism" per se,
>>
>> No it isn't, It looks as if ALL of the atheist responses, like this
>> one, can't find ANYTHING about *atheism* which is FUN! 8^o
>>
>> They all talk in the NEGATIVE defining themselves as NOT Religion.
>>
>> one, can't find ANYTHING about *atheism* which is FUN! 8^o
>>
>> They all talk in the NEGATIVE defining themselves as NOT Religion.
>>
> hahhaha
>
> Is it fun believing in the flying spaghetti monster?
> hahahaha
>
> It's even more fun laughing at you god botherers
Nice rant, pity you based it all on your
idiotic, illogical and plain wrong assumption
that if I criticise atheism, then I must be a theist! B^D
Nope, you must be a moron.
> other things I like about atheism
>
> no hell
> no heaven
"heaven is my baby's smile"
> no angry god wanting me to kill my progeny
> no angels to nuke my town
nothing to do with it.
> no trying to impress my neighbours at church with my piousness
and am certainly not pius, you stupid fuckwit..
and atheism had nothing to do with it!
> no having to believe in superstition and fairy stories (like the red
> sea parting for moses)
> tell us about the fun you have in church drinking the blood of christ
have never drunk blood...
Nice rant you got going there! You appear to be a fucking LUNATIC! B^D
And nothing you claimed to enjoy depends on being an atheist,
because others, not atheist, enjoy the same NEGATIVELY DEFINED
advantages of NOT experiencing something.
Atheism is definitely no fun for you poor desperate atheist tools,
struggling to find something, ANYTHING to say about being atheists!
B^D
Dawkins is having fun.. he's milked all you atheist suckers
for Book Sales, and now he's going over to the theist side
for the BIGGER MARKET: BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAA!
fasgnadh
Feb 1, 2012, 4:38:11 AM2/1/12
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On 1/02/2012 4:42 AM, Les Hellawell wrote:
>>
>> Ignorance is bliss.
Wow, atheists claim they are happy to be IGNORANT! B^D
>> I'm satisfied that I no longer believe in several thousand years old myths and children's
>> stories.
Instead you believe in the ideology which in EVERY atheist state has
resulted in terror, torture and the death of tens of millions...
> Ye that is true, being atheist does give me a sense of satisfaction
> and pride
# http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004
#
# "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
# by a government, typically by active suppression of
# religious freedom and practice."
# - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
# Characteristics and Consequences,
# David Kowalewski,
# Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441,
#
#
# "An atheist, Pol Pot suppressed Cambodia’s Buddhist religion:
# monks were defrocked; temples and artifacts, including statues of
# Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing
# other religious sentiments were often killed.
# ...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations
# and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked
# and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or
# starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals
# prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state
# instead of the family.
#
# About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population,
# were worked, starved, or beaten to death under Pol Pot’s regime."
# - http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761579038/pol_pot.html
#
# The Cambodian Genocide:
http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/392millones.jpg
#
# "The country's 40,000 to 60,000 Buddhist monks,
# regarded by the regime as social parasites,
# were defrocked and forced into labor brigades.
# Many monks were executed; temples and pagodas were
# destroyed or turned into storehouses or jails.
# Images of the Buddha were defaced and dumped into
# rivers and lakes. People who were discovered praying
# or expressing religious sentiments in other ways
# were often killed.
#
# The Christian and Muslim communities were among the most
# persecuted, as well. The Roman Catholic cathedral of
# Phnom Penh was completely razed.
#
# The Khmer Rouge forced Muslims to eat pork, which they
# regard as an abomination. Many of those who refused were killed.
# Christian clergy and Muslim imams were executed."
# - http://countrystudies.us/cambodia/29.htm
#
# "Forty-eight percent of Cambodia's Christians were killed
# because of their religion."
#
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk158/CANDEMIELDA/44camboyano.jpg
#
#
# "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
# - Daniel Peris,
# "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
# Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
#
#
# "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
# countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China,
# Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
# Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
# promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
# - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
# Wolak, Arthur J. p 104
#
# In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
# intrinsic part of communist ideology.
> that I have not been duped by the champions of ignorance and
> superstition.
Oh yes you have:
The Cultural Devolution:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIrUHVFkm9A
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
Atheism's Artistic Zenith;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT3QuesXgQw&feature=related
"Mao Zedong Thought is the sun that forever shines"
Out of his big fat arse!!! B^D
Ahteists replaced God with an Idol, and suffered the consequences!
> Les Hellawell
> Greetings from:
> YORKSHIRE - The county of broad
arses.
> On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:12:52 -0500, Frank Galikanokus
> <FrankGal...@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> "Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess" wrote:
>>>
> <FrankGal...@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> "Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess" wrote:
>>>
>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>> be?
>>> --
>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>> be?
>>
>> Ignorance is bliss.
Wow, atheists claim they are happy to be IGNORANT! B^D
>> I'm satisfied that I no longer believe in several thousand years old myths and children's
>> stories.
Instead you believe in the ideology which in EVERY atheist state has
resulted in terror, torture and the death of tens of millions...
> Ye that is true, being atheist does give me a sense of satisfaction
> and pride
# http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004
#
# "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
# by a government, typically by active suppression of
# religious freedom and practice."
# - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
# Characteristics and Consequences,
# David Kowalewski,
# Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441,
#
#
# "An atheist, Pol Pot suppressed Cambodia’s Buddhist religion:
# monks were defrocked; temples and artifacts, including statues of
# Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing
# other religious sentiments were often killed.
# ...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations
# and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked
# and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or
# starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals
# prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state
# instead of the family.
#
# About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population,
# were worked, starved, or beaten to death under Pol Pot’s regime."
# - http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761579038/pol_pot.html
#
# The Cambodian Genocide:
http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/392millones.jpg
#
# "The country's 40,000 to 60,000 Buddhist monks,
# regarded by the regime as social parasites,
# were defrocked and forced into labor brigades.
# Many monks were executed; temples and pagodas were
# destroyed or turned into storehouses or jails.
# Images of the Buddha were defaced and dumped into
# rivers and lakes. People who were discovered praying
# or expressing religious sentiments in other ways
# were often killed.
#
# The Christian and Muslim communities were among the most
# persecuted, as well. The Roman Catholic cathedral of
# Phnom Penh was completely razed.
#
# The Khmer Rouge forced Muslims to eat pork, which they
# regard as an abomination. Many of those who refused were killed.
# Christian clergy and Muslim imams were executed."
# - http://countrystudies.us/cambodia/29.htm
#
# "Forty-eight percent of Cambodia's Christians were killed
# because of their religion."
#
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk158/CANDEMIELDA/44camboyano.jpg
#
#
# "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
# - Daniel Peris,
# "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
# Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
#
#
# "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
# countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China,
# Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
# Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
# promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
# - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
# Wolak, Arthur J. p 104
#
# In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
# intrinsic part of communist ideology.
> that I have not been duped by the champions of ignorance and
> superstition.
Oh yes you have:
The Cultural Devolution:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIrUHVFkm9A
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT3QuesXgQw&feature=related
"Mao Zedong Thought is the sun that forever shines"
Out of his big fat arse!!! B^D
Ahteists replaced God with an Idol, and suffered the consequences!
> Les Hellawell
> Greetings from:
> YORKSHIRE - The county of broad
arses.
fasgnadh
Feb 3, 2012, 5:26:30 PM2/3/12
to
Don Martin isn't having any fun being an atheist either:
based on "sins" that are solely the creations of those capable of
Empathy."
You confuse one conception of 'Sins' with a sense of empathy
and knowledge of wrongdoing, without which people become SOCIOPATHS,
as the HORRORS of EVERY Atheist regime in history proves.
If Hitler was capable of shame, 6,000,000 Jews would not be dead.
> Whatever guilts I do experience are firmly based on the reality of my
> own actions toward others, and, thankfully, these are few.
You are thankful to have few actions towards others???
Selfishness of social awkwardness?
> I also enjoy the fact that I can behave decently on my own hook
Sounds like an excruciating form of penance, hanging yourself on "a hook"
Why not just do as Jesus said and exercise forgiveness, including
forgiving yourself.
Remember, it is written, God does not want your grubby guilt and
sacrifices of blood, he wants your remorse, saying sorry to the victim
and trying to do better next time.
Where would our civilisation be without such spiritual values for guidance?
> without the carrot of reward or the stick of punishment
So you don't believe in capitalism, rewarding success, and
you don't believe in our legal system, punishing thieves and murderers.
Got it. pffft
Reward and punishment are the twin pillars of Justice.
Even the Natural World, rewards intelligence, and punishes ignorance! B^]
You would think, after EVERY atheist state has been a CATASROPHIC
FAILURE, you would have started to LEARN some lessons from the
REAL WORLD, instead of clinging to your useless dogma.
> directing my behavior toward other people, animals, and the world in general.
"my own actions toward others, and, thankfully, these are few."
Is that you being thankful, or them? B^]
> --
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:25:10 -0800 (PST), "Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess"
> <fidem....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>> be?
>
>
>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>> be?
>
> My atheism is satisfying to me in that it frees me from guilt based on "sins"
> that are solely the creations of the religious imagination.
"Your hubris is self-satisfying to you in that it frees you from guilt
based on "sins" that are solely the creations of those capable of
Empathy."
You confuse one conception of 'Sins' with a sense of empathy
and knowledge of wrongdoing, without which people become SOCIOPATHS,
as the HORRORS of EVERY Atheist regime in history proves.
If Hitler was capable of shame, 6,000,000 Jews would not be dead.
> Whatever guilts I do experience are firmly based on the reality of my
You are thankful to have few actions towards others???
Selfishness of social awkwardness?
> I also enjoy the fact that I can behave decently on my own hook
Why not just do as Jesus said and exercise forgiveness, including
forgiving yourself.
Remember, it is written, God does not want your grubby guilt and
sacrifices of blood, he wants your remorse, saying sorry to the victim
and trying to do better next time.
Where would our civilisation be without such spiritual values for guidance?
> without the carrot of reward or the stick of punishment
you don't believe in our legal system, punishing thieves and murderers.
Got it. pffft
Reward and punishment are the twin pillars of Justice.
Even the Natural World, rewards intelligence, and punishes ignorance! B^]
You would think, after EVERY atheist state has been a CATASROPHIC
FAILURE, you would have started to LEARN some lessons from the
REAL WORLD, instead of clinging to your useless dogma.
> directing my behavior toward other people, animals, and the world in general.
Is that you being thankful, or them? B^]
> --
>
> aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
> BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
> Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
> The Squeeky Wheel: http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
> aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
> BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
> Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
fasgnadh
Feb 3, 2012, 6:51:00 PM2/3/12
to
On 3/02/2012 11:15 AM, Doc Smartass wrote:
> Paul David Wright<pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9FEBD427C68AEpa...@178.63.61.175:
ANYTHING about atheism per se which was 'fun'.
After that was pointed out to them their focus shifted
to 'profoundly satisfying' and they started telling us about
the self satisfaction of giving up some guilt they felt,
typically because the only 'religion' they seem to understand
is fundamentalism, a minority cult found predominately in the USA;
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: Intellectual challenge: Why is it fun to be an atheist?
# Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2012 00:28:54 +0100
# From: Hannele <han...@lycos.nl>
# Message-ID: <op.v80wu...@laptophannele.lan>
#
# For me atheism is about not feeling guilty to be saved
# while others are going to hell.
# That guilt was what led me to examine the dogma
Jung was right, they are driven by their mental problems;
"Among all my patients in the second half of life, that is, over
thirty-five, there has not been one whose problem in the last
resort was not that of finding a religious outlook on life.
It is safe to say that every one of them fell ill because
he had lost that which the living religions of every age
have given their followers, and none of them has really
been healed who did not regain his religious outlook."
-Carl G. Jung Modern Man in Search of a Soul
In the 20th Century, demagogues removed masses from their
'guilt, and then created they atheist and fascist tyrannies
which generated horrendous terror and REAL, not imagined, GUILT! 8^o
# http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004
#
# "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
# by a government, typically by active suppression of
# religious freedom and practice."
# - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
# Characteristics and Consequences,
# David Kowalewski,
# Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441,
# ....
Have a little cry.
> Paul David Wright<pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9FEBD427C68AEpa...@178.63.61.175:
>
>> fasgnadh<fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:M7RVq.2639$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com:
>> fasgnadh<fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:M7RVq.2639$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com:
>> On 31/01/2012 11:28 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>> On 31/01/2012 1:57 PM, Don Martin wrote:
>>>> Doc Smartass<Fortbr...@yahoobrick.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess"<fidem....@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:553e783b-6839-43cd...@ov1g2000pbb.googlegroups.com:
>>> On 31/01/2012 1:57 PM, Don Martin wrote:
>>>> Doc Smartass<Fortbr...@yahoobrick.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess"<fidem....@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>>>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>>>>> acquisition:
Without exception, the atheists were unable to identify
>>>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>>>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>>>>> acquisition:
ANYTHING about atheism per se which was 'fun'.
After that was pointed out to them their focus shifted
to 'profoundly satisfying' and they started telling us about
the self satisfaction of giving up some guilt they felt,
typically because the only 'religion' they seem to understand
is fundamentalism, a minority cult found predominately in the USA;
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: Intellectual challenge: Why is it fun to be an atheist?
# Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2012 00:28:54 +0100
# From: Hannele <han...@lycos.nl>
# Message-ID: <op.v80wu...@laptophannele.lan>
#
# For me atheism is about not feeling guilty to be saved
# while others are going to hell.
# That guilt was what led me to examine the dogma
Jung was right, they are driven by their mental problems;
"Among all my patients in the second half of life, that is, over
thirty-five, there has not been one whose problem in the last
resort was not that of finding a religious outlook on life.
It is safe to say that every one of them fell ill because
he had lost that which the living religions of every age
have given their followers, and none of them has really
been healed who did not regain his religious outlook."
-Carl G. Jung Modern Man in Search of a Soul
In the 20th Century, demagogues removed masses from their
'guilt, and then created they atheist and fascist tyrannies
which generated horrendous terror and REAL, not imagined, GUILT! 8^o
# http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004
#
# "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
# by a government, typically by active suppression of
# religious freedom and practice."
# - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
# Characteristics and Consequences,
# David Kowalewski,
# Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441,
#
# "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
# countries, such as the former Soviet Union, China,
# "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
# Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea"
#
>>>>> My mind is mine alone.
>>>
>>> Along with all the other atheist sheep;
>>>
>>>
>>> Along with all the other atheist sheep;
>>>
>>> http://www.thearchetypalconnection.com/images/RedGuardsLow.JPG
>>>
>>> So no fun in atheism there, either!
>>>
>>>> Well done, that man!
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks. B^]
>
> To you, this "sheep" replies, "Meh."
>>>
>>> So no fun in atheism there, either!
>>>
>>>> Well done, that man!
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks. B^]
>
Have a little cry.
Vurgil
Feb 3, 2012, 8:06:06 PM2/3/12
to
In article <%p_Wq.2591$v14....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
misrepresent atheism as what it is not.
Darwin cured most of them of the disease, except in the USA.
>
> In the 20th Century, demagogues removed masses from their
> 'guilt, and then created they atheist and fascist tyrannies
> which generated horrendous terror and REAL, not imagined, GUILT! 8^o
The evil of Stalin and Mao was not atheism itself as much as the
political imposition of a particular religious belief, which is just as
evil when it is a theist religion being imposed.
And throwing out the moral codes that had been adopted by Xianity from
prior religions was tossing the baby with the bathwater.
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Without exception, the atheists were unable to identify
> ANYTHING about atheism per se which was 'fun'.
It is a lot of fun watching all you anti-atheists trying vainly to
>
> Without exception, the atheists were unable to identify
> ANYTHING about atheism per se which was 'fun'.
misrepresent atheism as what it is not.
>
> After that was pointed out to them their focus shifted
> to 'profoundly satisfying' and they started telling us about
> the self satisfaction of giving up some guilt they felt,
> typically because the only 'religion' they seem to understand
> is fundamentalism, a minority cult found predominately in the USA;
Most of Xianity was essentially creationist in the pre-Darwin days, but
> After that was pointed out to them their focus shifted
> to 'profoundly satisfying' and they started telling us about
> the self satisfaction of giving up some guilt they felt,
> typically because the only 'religion' they seem to understand
> is fundamentalism, a minority cult found predominately in the USA;
Darwin cured most of them of the disease, except in the USA.
>
> In the 20th Century, demagogues removed masses from their
> 'guilt, and then created they atheist and fascist tyrannies
> which generated horrendous terror and REAL, not imagined, GUILT! 8^o
political imposition of a particular religious belief, which is just as
evil when it is a theist religion being imposed.
And throwing out the moral codes that had been adopted by Xianity from
prior religions was tossing the baby with the bathwater.
fasgnadh
Feb 3, 2012, 8:42:10 PM2/3/12
to
On 1/02/2012 12:48 PM, Paul David Wright wrote:
<unsnip>
>>>>> I'm not sure, exactly, that I'd call *atheism* fun, per se.
>>
>> No it isn't, It looks as if ALL of the atheist responses, like this
>> one, can't find ANYTHING about *atheism* which is FUN! 8^o
So, If it's ATHEISTS saying theris no fun in atheism, per se,
why does this atheist liar get his knickers in a knot
when I QUOTE them doing so! B^]
Atheists hate evidence exposing their lies:
>> [snip -- the same question/claim in various forms]
>>
>> <Unsnip> the atheist liars attempt to bury the logical argument
>> rather than debate it, is clearly fraudulent as this is NOT
>> "the same question/claim in various forms";
>>
>>>> Apparently none of the atheists can name anything that is fun?
>
> "I hate atheists.
It's not uncommon, especially among you self -hating atheists
> They suck.
and swallow, just like you swallowed Prophet Dawkins Sci Fi Gods!
> They must be destroyed."
Your snipping and running from the argument,
leaving only your bitter ad hom and abuse is what destroys
your credibility
>>>
>>> Your assumption is illogical
>>
>> you snipped my argument, I made no assumption, therefore
>> it can't be an illogical one.
The atheist liar could not sustain his lies and abandoned
all his feeble whining because he could not sustain any of it
with reason or evidence:
> On 31/01/2012 10:56 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> Fidem Turbare, trys to twist the atheist admission: NO FUN in ATHEISM :
>>> On Jan 30, 10:59 pm, fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On 31/01/2012 9:53 AM, DanielSan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/30/2012 2:25 PM, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>>>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>>>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>>>>> acquisition:
>>>>
>>>>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon the
>>>>>> honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>
>> Liar you snipped and misrepresented my argument!
>
> You don't have an argument
Liar you surreptitiously snipped it and lied that it didn't exist:
>> Fidem Turbare, trys to twist the atheist admission: NO FUN in ATHEISM :
>>> On Jan 30, 10:59 pm, fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On 31/01/2012 9:53 AM, DanielSan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/30/2012 2:25 PM, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>>>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>>>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>>>>> acquisition:
>>>>
>>>>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon the
>>>>>> honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>
>> Liar you snipped and misrepresented my argument!
>
> You don't have an argument
<unsnip>
>>>>> I'm not sure, exactly, that I'd call *atheism* fun, per se.
>>
>> No it isn't, It looks as if ALL of the atheist responses, like this
>> one, can't find ANYTHING about *atheism* which is FUN! 8^o
why does this atheist liar get his knickers in a knot
when I QUOTE them doing so! B^]
Atheists hate evidence exposing their lies:
>> [snip -- the same question/claim in various forms]
>>
>> <Unsnip> the atheist liars attempt to bury the logical argument
>> rather than debate it, is clearly fraudulent as this is NOT
>> "the same question/claim in various forms";
>>
>>>> Apparently none of the atheists can name anything that is fun?
>
It's not uncommon, especially among you self -hating atheists
> They suck.
and swallow, just like you swallowed Prophet Dawkins Sci Fi Gods!
> They must be destroyed."
Your snipping and running from the argument,
leaving only your bitter ad hom and abuse is what destroys
your credibility
>>>
>>> Your assumption is illogical
>>
>> you snipped my argument, I made no assumption, therefore
>> it can't be an illogical one.
all his feeble whining because he could not sustain any of it
with reason or evidence:
fasgnadh
Feb 4, 2012, 12:42:14 AM2/4/12
to
Paul David Wright snipped the discussion and spewed his venom and hate:
>>
>> Sure, if you don't have kids or they don't love you
>> you don't have to believe you are loved.
>>
>> I can see why you have no fun.
>>
>> How would you describe your atheism, in relation
>> to the Fruits of the Spirit, "love, joy, peace,
>> forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
>> gentleness and self-control.
>> Against such things there is no law." - Galatians 5:22-23
>>
>>> worries and fears that
>>> simply have no basis in fact, I find.
>>>
>>> What DOES happen, however, is that by being free to direct your
>>> intellect wherever the facts take you,
>>
>> Ah clearly you live in one of the free, open, progressive
>> secular democracies built and sustained by MAJORITY religious
>> societies, not an atheist state, every one of which was a
>> TOTALITARIAN tyranny, oppressing intellectual freedom,
>> imposing the forced indoctrination of children, eradicating
>> freedom of belief, thought and speech and
>>
>> "Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.
>> In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over
>> 3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.
>> Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water
>> in winter until they turned to ice-pillars.
>> -John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State
>> (Boston: Little Brown, 1953)
>>
>> Aren't you lucky you live in a MAJORITY RELIGIOUS society
>> with DEMOCRACY and FREEDOM where
>>
>>> you can spend more of your
>>> time learning about, and studying, the natural world around you.
>>> That, to me, is profoundly satisfying.
>>
>> Thank God we don't live in atheist tyrannies, eh?
>>
>>
>>> As a bit of an amateur astronomer, the universe is simply a
>>> fascinating place full of interesting things to learn about.
>>
>> Yes, all those theist Astronomers; Copernicus, Tycho, Galileo
>> sure taught you atheist flat-earthers something, eh?
>>
>>
>> > Nothing
>>> better than a hot thermos of tea on a cold, clear autumn night with
>>> the milky way o'erhead.
>>
>> Amen to that brother, get as far from empty atheist Nihilism
>> and into the real world as you can!
I understand it perfectly well enough to PARODY it mercilessly..
and have shitting pathetic little one-liner ad homs whenever I do!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHA
What's your warm up routine to get yourself into full hysterical screech?
> release your overwhelming, murderous, hysterical hatred
So you belong to the Chris Drillchuck Lee and Warlord Fluffy
school of murderous hate-spewing;
# From: "John Fraser" <jfr...@ns.sympatico.ca>
# Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.pentecostal,alt.atheism
# Subject: Merry Christmas
# Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:21:03 -0400
# Message-ID: <4953abb6$1$5460$9a56...@news.aliant.net>
#
# Hello Folks;
#
# I'd like to wish all of you a very Merry Christmas
# and a safe holiday season. Phil 4:8.
#
# Cheers,
# John
# From: Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.pentecostal,alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: Merry Christmas
# Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:24:01 -0500
# Message-ID: <o07dl41sa4t4jhof3...@4ax.com>
#
# "go fuck yourself with your crucifix in a drill chuck'.
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We kill theists and shit down their throats
I (at least) get a laugh, and you get to froth at the mouth
and whine pitifully about your
> Failednuts.
> On 31/01/2012 6:11 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> sbalneav also can't find any fun in atheism:
>>> On 12-01-30 04:25 PM, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>>> be?
>>>
>>> Atheism's only satisfying in so much as you're not having to expend
>>> a lot of effort
>> true, it can't take much energy to say
>>
>> "I don't believe in.. x"
>>
>>
>>> maintaining a lot of beliefs,
>> sbalneav also can't find any fun in atheism:
>>> On 12-01-30 04:25 PM, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>>> be?
>>>
>>> Atheism's only satisfying in so much as you're not having to expend
>>> a lot of effort
>> true, it can't take much energy to say
>>
>> "I don't believe in.. x"
>>
>>
>>
>> Sure, if you don't have kids or they don't love you
>> you don't have to believe you are loved.
>>
>> I can see why you have no fun.
>>
>> How would you describe your atheism, in relation
>> to the Fruits of the Spirit, "love, joy, peace,
>> forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
>> gentleness and self-control.
>> Against such things there is no law." - Galatians 5:22-23
>>
>>> worries and fears that
>>> simply have no basis in fact, I find.
>>>
>>> What DOES happen, however, is that by being free to direct your
>>> intellect wherever the facts take you,
>>
>> Ah clearly you live in one of the free, open, progressive
>> secular democracies built and sustained by MAJORITY religious
>> societies, not an atheist state, every one of which was a
>> TOTALITARIAN tyranny, oppressing intellectual freedom,
>> imposing the forced indoctrination of children, eradicating
>> freedom of belief, thought and speech and
>>
>> "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
>> - Daniel Peris,
>> "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
>> "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
>> Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
>>
>> "Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"
>>
>>
>> "Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.
>> In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over
>> 3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.
>> Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water
>> in winter until they turned to ice-pillars.
>> -John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State
>> (Boston: Little Brown, 1953)
>>
>> Aren't you lucky you live in a MAJORITY RELIGIOUS society
>> with DEMOCRACY and FREEDOM where
>>
>>> you can spend more of your
>>> time learning about, and studying, the natural world around you.
>>> That, to me, is profoundly satisfying.
>>
>> Thank God we don't live in atheist tyrannies, eh?
>>
>>
>>> As a bit of an amateur astronomer, the universe is simply a
>>> fascinating place full of interesting things to learn about.
>>
>> Yes, all those theist Astronomers; Copernicus, Tycho, Galileo
>> sure taught you atheist flat-earthers something, eh?
>>
>>
>> > Nothing
>>> better than a hot thermos of tea on a cold, clear autumn night with
>>> the milky way o'erhead.
>>
>> Amen to that brother, get as far from empty atheist Nihilism
>> and into the real world as you can!
>
> You'll never understand our position
You mean you are never able to explain it!
> You'll never understand our position
I understand it perfectly well enough to PARODY it mercilessly..
and have shitting pathetic little one-liner ad homs whenever I do!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHA
What's your warm up routine to get yourself into full hysterical screech?
> release your overwhelming, murderous, hysterical hatred
school of murderous hate-spewing;
# From: "John Fraser" <jfr...@ns.sympatico.ca>
# Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.pentecostal,alt.atheism
# Subject: Merry Christmas
# Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:21:03 -0400
# Message-ID: <4953abb6$1$5460$9a56...@news.aliant.net>
#
# Hello Folks;
#
# I'd like to wish all of you a very Merry Christmas
# and a safe holiday season. Phil 4:8.
#
# Cheers,
# John
# From: Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.pentecostal,alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: Merry Christmas
# Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:24:01 -0500
# Message-ID: <o07dl41sa4t4jhof3...@4ax.com>
#
# "go fuck yourself with your crucifix in a drill chuck'.
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We kill theists and shit down their throats
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
Not satisfied with murder, Steve favours GENOCIDE
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
# Subject: Re: Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
# Message-ID: <8t6ve5hs41qn3a2rv...@4ax.com>
# Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:18 -0800
#
# On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:32 +0200, "Katrina"
# <blondes_g...@yahoo.com> wrote:
#
# >Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
#
# It is the most foul, disgusting filth on Earth.
# The sooner we nuke you fuckers, the better.
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
see, I find it far more effective to mock the shit out of you..
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
Not satisfied with murder, Steve favours GENOCIDE
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
# Subject: Re: Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
# Message-ID: <8t6ve5hs41qn3a2rv...@4ax.com>
# Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:18 -0800
#
# On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:32 +0200, "Katrina"
# <blondes_g...@yahoo.com> wrote:
#
# >Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
#
# It is the most foul, disgusting filth on Earth.
# The sooner we nuke you fuckers, the better.
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
I (at least) get a laugh, and you get to froth at the mouth
and whine pitifully about your
> Failednuts.
fasgnadh
Feb 4, 2012, 3:26:59 AM2/4/12
to
On 1/02/2012 12:53 PM, Paul David Wright wrote:
> fasgnadh<fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:f4NVq.2621$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com:
>
>>
>> On 31/01/2012 10:57 AM, Tronscend wrote:
>>> "Don Martin"<drdon...@comcast.net> skrev i melding
>>> news:5l9ei7dj1a5t9jlbl...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:25:10 -0800 (PST), "Fidem Turbare, atheist
>>>> goddess"<fidem....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>>>> acquisition:
>>>>
>>>> My atheism is satisfying to me in that it frees me from guilt
>>>> based on "sins"
>>
>> Another negative definition which ascribes the absence of guilt
>> to atheism, whereas others, such as agnostics, like myself, and
>> many religious don't feel guilt
>>
>
> Another lie by the guy who lets his overwhelming, hysterical and
> murderous hatred
That would be your violently psychopathic hate filled Warlord;
> fasgnadh<fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:f4NVq.2621$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com:
>
>>
>> On 31/01/2012 10:57 AM, Tronscend wrote:
>>> "Don Martin"<drdon...@comcast.net> skrev i melding
>>> news:5l9ei7dj1a5t9jlbl...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:25:10 -0800 (PST), "Fidem Turbare, atheist
>>>> goddess"<fidem....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>>>> acquisition:
>>>>
>>>> My atheism is satisfying to me in that it frees me from guilt
>>>> based on "sins"
>>
>> Another negative definition which ascribes the absence of guilt
>> to atheism, whereas others, such as agnostics, like myself, and
>> many religious don't feel guilt
>>
>
> Another lie by the guy who lets his overwhelming, hysterical and
> murderous hatred
B^) That's amusing, 'hatred for unbelievers' - I'm an agnostic,
most (96%) of non-believers explicitly refuse to be identified with
atheists, so the VAST majority (ARIS data).. a look at the history
of atheist regimes, and your support for BAAWA thugs shows why.
Atheists are complete hypocrites, you defend the atheist states
which terrorised, tortured and killed over 60,000,000 people,
you support the psychotic hate-mongers who threaten the same
murderous violence today, and then you get hysterical
and accuse me of 'murderous hatred' simply for LAUGHING AT
ATHEISTS whop can't find ANYTHING about atheism which is FUN!
>>> that are solely the creations of the religious imagination.
>>
>>
>> However, wrongdoing such as Murder, as was practised in every atheist
>> regime, or lying, as in Pravda Propaganda, SHOULD produce guilt!
>>
>> Not feeling it is, like lacking empathy for the victims,
>> the mark of sociopaths.
>>
>> "The atheist states involved massive guilt and punitive 're-education'
>> for those who deviated from the party line, engaged in "Wrongthink",
>> or showed bourgeois/ reactionary counter-revolutionary thinking.
>>
>> Public Self Criticism sessions publicly humiliated aged intellectuals
>> and others, who were beaten and forced to wear self-denouncing placards
>> and dunces hats.. or worse.. sent to Gulags, "re-Education" camps and
>> Lunatic asylums to brainwash those who thought and believed contrary to
>> the Atheist Regime's Group Mind.
>>
>> They were far more oppressive than the free open, progressive secular
>> democracies built by majority religious populations, which we all
>> enjoy living in.. even you atheist hypocrites!
>>
>>
>>>> Whatever guilts I do experience are
>>>> firmly based on the reality of my own actions toward others,
>>
>> And you don't thatink that's how people other than atheists,
>>
>>>> Whatever guilts I do experience are
>>>> firmly based on the reality of my own actions toward others,
>>
>> including religious people, feel guilt?
>>
>> You clearly haven't read Freud or Jung! B^D
>>
>>>> I also enjoy the fact that I can behave
>>>> decently on my own hook, without the carrot of reward or the stick of
>>>> I also enjoy the fact that I can behave
>>>> punishment
>>>> directing my behavior toward other people, animals, and the world in
>>>> general.
>>
>> So you are now complaining about our secular legal and justice systems.
>>>> general.
>>
>>
>> And how, exactly does atheism contribute to your behaviour being 'on a
>> hook'? WTF?
>>
>>
>>> Seconded.
>>>
>>> T
>>
>>
>> Two more atheists who don't get ANY fun from atheism per se,
>> but claim it's all about NOT being religious.. defined in the empty
>> negative, with no evidence that atheism is the sole alternative to
>> the problems discussed.
>>
>>
>> "He's glad he stays dry on rainy days by never leaving his house,
>> others achieve the same with cars, umbrellas, raincoats etc etc"
>>
>> That's his fun.. not leaving the house. pffft
>>
>> Atheism, the most trivial, impotent, ineffectual, useless,
>> sub branch of pointless Nihilism.
>>
>> The only fun they have is pretending that they are superior
>> to religious people.. the very definition of REACTIONARIES.
fasgnadh
Feb 5, 2012, 5:37:38 AM2/5/12
to
Yaputya Leftlegin , unusual for an atheist, inquired about truth:
>>>> And you don't think that's how people other than atheists,
they quickly snip and RUN FROM any discussion of atheism,
and try and change the subject to something more interesting;
> So which religion is the real truth, fasy ?
So which is the 'Real Science', Physics, Chemistry, Biology..? ;-)
These domains are not mutually exclusive, reality is Holistic.
Ah well, thanks for proving my point that atheists are more
interested in RELIGION than atheism! B^D
Who isn't!?!!! BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
Your question was answered centuries ago, humans are only now
absorbing it:
THE ONE TRUE LIGHT
Some Hindus bought an elephant, which they exhibited in a dark shed.
As seeing it was impossible, everyone felt it with the palm of his hand.
The hand of one fell on its trunk: he said "This animal is like a water
pipe".
Another touched its ear: to him the creature seemed like a fan.
Another handled its leg and described the elephant as having the shape
of a pillar.
Another stroked its back. "Truly", said he, "this elephant resembles a
throne".
Had each of them held a lighted candle
there would have been no contradiction in their words.
The lamps are different but the Light is the same: it comes from Beyond.
If thou keep looking at the lamp, thou art lost:
for there arises the appearance of number and plurality.
Fix thy gaze upon the Light,
and thou art delivered from the dualism inherent in the finite body.
O thou who art the Kernel of Existence,
the disagreement between Moslem, Zoroastrian and Jew depends upon the
standpoint.
- Jalal'u'Din Rumi (1207 – 1273)
All religions which truly teach Love, are true.
HINDUISM
"He must show no anger to one who is angry.
He must bless the man who curses him..."
CONFUCIANISM
"Love is its own reward.. Love offers peace...
A heart set on love can do no wrong."
TAOISM
"Repay evil with good..
Heaven arms with love those it would not see destroyed."
BUDDHISM
"If a man foolishly does me a wrong.
I will return to him the protection of my ungrudging love."
JUDAISM
"Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself..
And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land...
thou shalt love him as thyself."
ISLAM
"Verily my love overcometh my anger."
SIKHISM
"Serve ye well all creatures, both big and small.
Give pain to no being that lives and feels."
CHRISTIANITY
"A new commandment I give unto you, that you love one another.
As I have loved you, so you shall love one another."
BAHÁ'Í
"..for love is light, no matter in what abode it dwelleth."
It is worth noting that all these great and enduring World Faiths
share this core message.. remarkable given that they appear at
disparate geographical locations and in different epochs.
And yet, in another sense, none of them are true, because while they
appear to have a common inspiration, they are Human Organisations,
and that means they are imperfect instruments.
The religion of love is a part from all religions.
The lovers of God have no religion but God alone
-The Mathnawi II, 1720
By the time Moses came down from Sinai, the Chosen were already
making idols.. Jesus was betrayed by his disciples at the outset.
Given such imperfect material to work with, it is a Miracle
that any of the religions became so useful to society that they
have inspired and sustained civilisations for millennia.
> Religious believers are the real hypocrites,
Yes, just like atheists, believers are hypocrites.
Hypocrites with religion produced great and enduring civilisations,
including all the free, open, pluralist, progressive, rights based
secular democracies, each built by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS populations.
Hypocrites with atheism produced not a single decent democracy.. just
a handful of failed TOTALITARIAN Tyrannies, which killed over
60,000,000 people.. far more than any religion.
> they either think their own religion is right
> and all others are wrong, or they think more than one incompatible religion
> is valid.Illogical in either case.
Your problem is Ignorance. You have a very limited understanding
of religion, and it's progressive nature.
As the Rumi quote shows, the understanding that all religions
share a common Light is centuries old. Some truths take humans
a long time to grasp, and some of you take longer than others...
Let me illustrate the Evolution of this understanding in the
two largest world religions, Christianity and Islam;
In 1960, for the first time, representatives of the Vatican
and the Sharif of Mecca met, and agreed that they both worship
the same God! 8^o
Then, at Vatican II, after 14 centuries of denying it,
The Christian Church publicly accepted what Islam had
told it 1,443 years ago; YHWH, Allah and Jehovah are names
in different languages describing the SAME God,
Christians, Muslims and Jews are brothers.. and the Vatican
declared this relationship to be fundamental, in Nostra Aetate.
When Benedict became Pope, he declared Nostra Aetate to
be the "Magna Carta" bedrock on which Christian rapprochement
with Islam would rest!
The Church representing the largest number of Christians:
# "DECLARATION ON THE RELATION OF THE CHURCH
# TO NON-CHRISTIAN RELIGIONS
#
# NOSTRA AETATE
#
# PROCLAIMED BY HIS HOLINESS POPE PAUL VI
# ...
# 3. The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems.
# They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself;
# merciful and all- powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth,
# who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to
# even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith
# of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God."
Of course the Christian Bible and the Torah,
has proclaimed the Unity of God for millennia,
long before there were Christians to argue over it;
"Shema Yisrael Adonai Eloheinu Adonai Echad."
"Hear oh Israel, the Lord thy God, the Lord is One!"
And Islam similarly proclaims it in the Muslim's daily
statement of faith in ONE GOD...
"la illaha illa Allah"
... based firmly on the Qur'an which stated this fundamental
unity, now accepted by the Christians, 1,443 years ago;
# "And argue not with the People of the Scripture
# unless it be in ( a way) that is better,
# save with such of them as do wrong;
# and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us
# and revealed unto you;
# our God and your God is One,
# and unto Him we surrender."
#
# - The Qur'an Sura 29 verse 46
Now, like you, many Christians, and many Muslims, and Many Jews remain
IGNORANT of the truth, of what is revealed in THEIR SCRIPTURES.
Of course you can find Muslims, or Christians who ignore
the scriptures, and claim they alone possess the Truth..
those were the ones who, in Jesus' time, failed to recognise
him as the Messiah they awaited, and crucified him.
History has shown they were wrong.
History has shown the atheists are just as wrong;
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
> "Atheist" is a label that is disingenuous
Exactly how I, and apparently most people, find atheists to be.
# Atheists Identified as America’s Most Distrusted Minority"
# - American Sociological Association, ASA NEWS
#
# "A survey by sociologists at the University of Minnesota
# found that atheists are “America’s most distrusted minority.”
#
# "From a telephone sampling of more than 2,000 households,
# university researchers found that Americans rate atheists
# below Muslims, recent immigrants, gays and lesbians and
# other minority groups in “sharing their vision of
# American society.”
#
# Atheists are also the minority group most Americans are
# least willing to allow their children to marry.
#
# Even though atheists are few in number, not formally
# organized and relatively hard to publicly identify,
# they are seen as a threat to the American way of life
# by a large portion of the American public.
#
# Many of the study’s respondents associated atheism with
# an array of moral indiscretions ranging from criminal
# behavior to rampant materialism and cultural elitism.
#
# Edgell believes a fear of moral decline and resulting
# social disorder is behind the findings.
# “Americans believe they share more than rules and
# procedures with their fellow citizens—they share an
# understanding of right and wrong,” she said. “Our
# findings seem to rest on a view of atheists as
# self-interested individuals who are not concerned
# with the common good.”
> - if you don't believe in the tooth fairy
>
> do you deserve a special name ?
Clearly belief in the tooth fairy is not significant enough
to warrant one.. belief in God is.
> People with delusions are called psychotic
Indeed, the atheist states of the last century were deluded
in thinking Man was the measure of all things, the utopian
visions of the fascists, the atheistic communists, Nazis,
Maoists, Khmer Rouge.. all failed catastrophically.
the free open progressive secular democracies built and sustained
by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS societies operating on Spiritual Values,
have all been successful.
Join the dots..... if you are capable of logic and rational thought.
> but people without delusions are not labelled "apsychotic".
Do you think anyone cares for the Useless, Empty Rhetoric of
atheism, the most ineffectual, impotent, irrelevant sub-branch
of pointless Nihilism?
> "We are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have ever
> believed in.
Yawn... you cretins seem to believe that you SHAPE reality
with your semantic slogan chanting and weasel words..
> Some of us just go one god further."
> -- Richard Dawkins
Clearly Dawkins is as ignorant of Sura 29 verse 46 and
Nostra Aetate as you are.
Christians and Muslims, who believe their SCRIPTURES,
do are not disbelievers of the other's God.. it is the same One.
> http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/dawkins.htm
The last group who quoted from the Great Atheist Leaders Dogma
rather than THINKING FOR THEMSELVES:
http://www.thearchetypalconnection.com/images/RedGuardsLow.JPG
>>>> including religious people, feel guilt?
>>>>
>>>> You clearly haven't read Freud or Jung! B^D
>>>>
>>>>>> I also enjoy the fact that I can behave
>>>>>> decently on my own hook, without the carrot of reward or the stick of
>>>>>> punishment
>>>>>> directing my behavior toward other people, animals, and the world in
>>>>>> general.
>>>>
>>>> So you are now complaining about our secular legal and justice systems.
>>>>
>>>> And how, exactly does atheism contribute to your behaviour being 'on a
>>>> hook'? WTF?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Seconded.
>>>>>
>>>>> T
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Two more atheists who don't get ANY fun from atheism per se,
>>>> but claim it's all about NOT being religious.. defined in the empty
>>>> negative, with no evidence that atheism is the sole alternative to
>>>> the problems discussed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "He's glad he stays dry on rainy days by never leaving his house,
>>>> others achieve the same with cars, umbrellas, raincoats etc etc"
>>>>
>>>> That's his fun.. not leaving the house. pffft
>>>>
>>>> Atheism, the most trivial, impotent, ineffectual, useless,
>>>> sub branch of pointless Nihilism.
>>>>
>>>> The only fun they have is pretending that they are superior
>>>> to religious people.. the very definition of REACTIONARIES.
and, as evidence that atheism is no fun, not even for atheists,
>>>>
>>>> You clearly haven't read Freud or Jung! B^D
>>>>
>>>>>> I also enjoy the fact that I can behave
>>>>>> decently on my own hook, without the carrot of reward or the stick of
>>>>>> punishment
>>>>>> directing my behavior toward other people, animals, and the world in
>>>>>> general.
>>>>
>>>> So you are now complaining about our secular legal and justice systems.
>>>>
>>>> And how, exactly does atheism contribute to your behaviour being 'on a
>>>> hook'? WTF?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Seconded.
>>>>>
>>>>> T
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Two more atheists who don't get ANY fun from atheism per se,
>>>> but claim it's all about NOT being religious.. defined in the empty
>>>> negative, with no evidence that atheism is the sole alternative to
>>>> the problems discussed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "He's glad he stays dry on rainy days by never leaving his house,
>>>> others achieve the same with cars, umbrellas, raincoats etc etc"
>>>>
>>>> That's his fun.. not leaving the house. pffft
>>>>
>>>> Atheism, the most trivial, impotent, ineffectual, useless,
>>>> sub branch of pointless Nihilism.
>>>>
>>>> The only fun they have is pretending that they are superior
>>>> to religious people.. the very definition of REACTIONARIES.
they quickly snip and RUN FROM any discussion of atheism,
and try and change the subject to something more interesting;
> So which religion is the real truth, fasy ?
So which is the 'Real Science', Physics, Chemistry, Biology..? ;-)
These domains are not mutually exclusive, reality is Holistic.
Ah well, thanks for proving my point that atheists are more
interested in RELIGION than atheism! B^D
Who isn't!?!!! BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
Your question was answered centuries ago, humans are only now
absorbing it:
THE ONE TRUE LIGHT
Some Hindus bought an elephant, which they exhibited in a dark shed.
As seeing it was impossible, everyone felt it with the palm of his hand.
The hand of one fell on its trunk: he said "This animal is like a water
pipe".
Another touched its ear: to him the creature seemed like a fan.
Another handled its leg and described the elephant as having the shape
of a pillar.
Another stroked its back. "Truly", said he, "this elephant resembles a
throne".
Had each of them held a lighted candle
there would have been no contradiction in their words.
The lamps are different but the Light is the same: it comes from Beyond.
If thou keep looking at the lamp, thou art lost:
for there arises the appearance of number and plurality.
Fix thy gaze upon the Light,
and thou art delivered from the dualism inherent in the finite body.
O thou who art the Kernel of Existence,
the disagreement between Moslem, Zoroastrian and Jew depends upon the
standpoint.
- Jalal'u'Din Rumi (1207 – 1273)
All religions which truly teach Love, are true.
HINDUISM
"He must show no anger to one who is angry.
He must bless the man who curses him..."
CONFUCIANISM
"Love is its own reward.. Love offers peace...
A heart set on love can do no wrong."
TAOISM
"Repay evil with good..
Heaven arms with love those it would not see destroyed."
BUDDHISM
"If a man foolishly does me a wrong.
I will return to him the protection of my ungrudging love."
JUDAISM
"Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself..
And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land...
thou shalt love him as thyself."
ISLAM
"Verily my love overcometh my anger."
SIKHISM
"Serve ye well all creatures, both big and small.
Give pain to no being that lives and feels."
CHRISTIANITY
"A new commandment I give unto you, that you love one another.
As I have loved you, so you shall love one another."
BAHÁ'Í
"..for love is light, no matter in what abode it dwelleth."
It is worth noting that all these great and enduring World Faiths
share this core message.. remarkable given that they appear at
disparate geographical locations and in different epochs.
And yet, in another sense, none of them are true, because while they
appear to have a common inspiration, they are Human Organisations,
and that means they are imperfect instruments.
The religion of love is a part from all religions.
The lovers of God have no religion but God alone
-The Mathnawi II, 1720
By the time Moses came down from Sinai, the Chosen were already
making idols.. Jesus was betrayed by his disciples at the outset.
Given such imperfect material to work with, it is a Miracle
that any of the religions became so useful to society that they
have inspired and sustained civilisations for millennia.
> Religious believers are the real hypocrites,
Yes, just like atheists, believers are hypocrites.
Hypocrites with religion produced great and enduring civilisations,
including all the free, open, pluralist, progressive, rights based
secular democracies, each built by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS populations.
Hypocrites with atheism produced not a single decent democracy.. just
a handful of failed TOTALITARIAN Tyrannies, which killed over
60,000,000 people.. far more than any religion.
> they either think their own religion is right
> and all others are wrong, or they think more than one incompatible religion
> is valid.Illogical in either case.
Your problem is Ignorance. You have a very limited understanding
of religion, and it's progressive nature.
As the Rumi quote shows, the understanding that all religions
share a common Light is centuries old. Some truths take humans
a long time to grasp, and some of you take longer than others...
Let me illustrate the Evolution of this understanding in the
two largest world religions, Christianity and Islam;
In 1960, for the first time, representatives of the Vatican
and the Sharif of Mecca met, and agreed that they both worship
the same God! 8^o
Then, at Vatican II, after 14 centuries of denying it,
The Christian Church publicly accepted what Islam had
told it 1,443 years ago; YHWH, Allah and Jehovah are names
in different languages describing the SAME God,
Christians, Muslims and Jews are brothers.. and the Vatican
declared this relationship to be fundamental, in Nostra Aetate.
When Benedict became Pope, he declared Nostra Aetate to
be the "Magna Carta" bedrock on which Christian rapprochement
with Islam would rest!
The Church representing the largest number of Christians:
# "DECLARATION ON THE RELATION OF THE CHURCH
# TO NON-CHRISTIAN RELIGIONS
#
# NOSTRA AETATE
#
# PROCLAIMED BY HIS HOLINESS POPE PAUL VI
# ...
# 3. The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems.
# They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself;
# merciful and all- powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth,
# who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to
# even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith
# of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God."
Of course the Christian Bible and the Torah,
has proclaimed the Unity of God for millennia,
long before there were Christians to argue over it;
"Shema Yisrael Adonai Eloheinu Adonai Echad."
"Hear oh Israel, the Lord thy God, the Lord is One!"
And Islam similarly proclaims it in the Muslim's daily
statement of faith in ONE GOD...
"la illaha illa Allah"
... based firmly on the Qur'an which stated this fundamental
unity, now accepted by the Christians, 1,443 years ago;
# "And argue not with the People of the Scripture
# unless it be in ( a way) that is better,
# save with such of them as do wrong;
# and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us
# and revealed unto you;
# our God and your God is One,
# and unto Him we surrender."
#
# - The Qur'an Sura 29 verse 46
Now, like you, many Christians, and many Muslims, and Many Jews remain
IGNORANT of the truth, of what is revealed in THEIR SCRIPTURES.
Of course you can find Muslims, or Christians who ignore
the scriptures, and claim they alone possess the Truth..
those were the ones who, in Jesus' time, failed to recognise
him as the Messiah they awaited, and crucified him.
History has shown they were wrong.
History has shown the atheists are just as wrong;
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
> "Atheist" is a label that is disingenuous
Exactly how I, and apparently most people, find atheists to be.
# Atheists Identified as America’s Most Distrusted Minority"
# - American Sociological Association, ASA NEWS
#
# "A survey by sociologists at the University of Minnesota
# found that atheists are “America’s most distrusted minority.”
#
# "From a telephone sampling of more than 2,000 households,
# university researchers found that Americans rate atheists
# below Muslims, recent immigrants, gays and lesbians and
# other minority groups in “sharing their vision of
# American society.”
#
# Atheists are also the minority group most Americans are
# least willing to allow their children to marry.
#
# Even though atheists are few in number, not formally
# organized and relatively hard to publicly identify,
# they are seen as a threat to the American way of life
# by a large portion of the American public.
#
# Many of the study’s respondents associated atheism with
# an array of moral indiscretions ranging from criminal
# behavior to rampant materialism and cultural elitism.
#
# Edgell believes a fear of moral decline and resulting
# social disorder is behind the findings.
# “Americans believe they share more than rules and
# procedures with their fellow citizens—they share an
# understanding of right and wrong,” she said. “Our
# findings seem to rest on a view of atheists as
# self-interested individuals who are not concerned
# with the common good.”
> - if you don't believe in the tooth fairy
>
> do you deserve a special name ?
Clearly belief in the tooth fairy is not significant enough
to warrant one.. belief in God is.
> People with delusions are called psychotic
Indeed, the atheist states of the last century were deluded
in thinking Man was the measure of all things, the utopian
visions of the fascists, the atheistic communists, Nazis,
Maoists, Khmer Rouge.. all failed catastrophically.
the free open progressive secular democracies built and sustained
by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS societies operating on Spiritual Values,
have all been successful.
Join the dots..... if you are capable of logic and rational thought.
> but people without delusions are not labelled "apsychotic".
Do you think anyone cares for the Useless, Empty Rhetoric of
atheism, the most ineffectual, impotent, irrelevant sub-branch
of pointless Nihilism?
> "We are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have ever
> believed in.
Yawn... you cretins seem to believe that you SHAPE reality
with your semantic slogan chanting and weasel words..
> Some of us just go one god further."
> -- Richard Dawkins
Clearly Dawkins is as ignorant of Sura 29 verse 46 and
Nostra Aetate as you are.
Christians and Muslims, who believe their SCRIPTURES,
do are not disbelievers of the other's God.. it is the same One.
> http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/dawkins.htm
The last group who quoted from the Great Atheist Leaders Dogma
rather than THINKING FOR THEMSELVES:
http://www.thearchetypalconnection.com/images/RedGuardsLow.JPG
fasgnadh
Feb 5, 2012, 5:45:42 AM2/5/12
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Paul David Wright snips, runs, doesn't want to discuss atheism (no fun):
Altar of Atheism:
# From: Budikka666 <budi...@netscape.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.atheism,alt.talk.creationism,
alt.religion,alt.religion.christian
# Subject: Disapproving Creation:
# Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:23:40 -0800 (PST)
# Message-ID:
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#
#
#> come worshiping at the altar of atheism,
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
>>
>>
>> So, which atheist is going to explain the inexplicable,
>> unscientific, BELIEF in "these {atheist] Gods", with no proof
>> whatsoever, and show us the evidence of how, and where, God evolved
>>
# It's Official, Atheists claim to be a persecuted RELIGION: B^D
#
#
# "THE Atheist Foundation of Australia has lodged complaints
# of religious discrimination in Melbourne and Hobart
#
# "atheism counts as a religion, Dr Perkins said."
# The Age 29/1/2009
>>> I understand why the supernatural would be welcome.
>>
>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6349?context=latest
>>
>> Sure atheists bang on endlessly about the Supernatural, Zombies,
>> Prophet Dawkins and his evolved Gods... pffft!
from the facts.
> bigot.
Snipping the facts does not make your lies become truth, bigot
> On 31/01/2012 11:17 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> MarkA found no fun in atheism:
>>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:25:10 -0800, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>>> acquisition:
>>>>
>>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon the
>>>> honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>>
>>> I find atheism to be satisfying because it eliminates the supernatural
>>
>> Clearly it doesn't:
>>
>> MarkA found no fun in atheism:
>>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:25:10 -0800, Fidem Turbare, atheist goddess wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you could present a short statement that reflects how or why
>>>> atheism is fun or profoundly satisfying, what might that statement
>>>> be? I'll start in the realm of the infinite pursuit of knowledge
>>>> acquisition:
>>>>
>>>> If you challenge my ideas, and present to me my errors, then, upon the
>>>> honour of my character, constructively I shall build.
>>>
>>> I find atheism to be satisfying because it eliminates the supernatural
>>
>> Clearly it doesn't:
>>
>> Ex- Atheist, now Prophet, Richard Dawkins claims a "superpowerful
>> intelligent and moral energy" entity, "like God", is plausible and
>> could have 'evolved' somewhere in the Universe "by an explicable
>> scientific progression of incremental evolution", (which no
>> atheist can explain). B^D
>>
>> # "After two hours of conversation, Professor Dawkins walks far afield.
>> # He talks of the possibility that we might co-evolve with computers, a
>> # silicon destiny. And he’s intrigued by the playful, even soul-stirring
>> # writings of Freeman Dyson, the theoretical physicist.
>> #
>> # 'In one essay, Professor Dyson casts millions of speculative years
>> # into the future. Our galaxy is dying and humans have evolved into
>> # something like bolts of superpowerful intelligent and moral energy.
>> #
>> # Doesn’t that description sound an awful lot like God?
>> #
>> # "Certainly," Professor Dawkins replies. "It’s highly plausible that
>> # in the universe there are God-like creatures."
>> #
>> # He raises his hand, just in case a reader thinks he’s gone around a
>> # religious bend. "It’s very important to understand that these Gods
>> # came into being
And Bukakke wants to worship these Supernatural atheist Gods at his
>> intelligent and moral energy" entity, "like God", is plausible and
>> could have 'evolved' somewhere in the Universe "by an explicable
>> scientific progression of incremental evolution", (which no
>> atheist can explain). B^D
>>
>> # "After two hours of conversation, Professor Dawkins walks far afield.
>> # He talks of the possibility that we might co-evolve with computers, a
>> # silicon destiny. And he’s intrigued by the playful, even soul-stirring
>> # writings of Freeman Dyson, the theoretical physicist.
>> #
>> # 'In one essay, Professor Dyson casts millions of speculative years
>> # into the future. Our galaxy is dying and humans have evolved into
>> # something like bolts of superpowerful intelligent and moral energy.
>> #
>> # Doesn’t that description sound an awful lot like God?
>> #
>> # "Certainly," Professor Dawkins replies. "It’s highly plausible that
>> # in the universe there are God-like creatures."
>> #
>> # He raises his hand, just in case a reader thinks he’s gone around a
>> # religious bend. "It’s very important to understand that these Gods
>> # came into being
Altar of Atheism:
# From: Budikka666 <budi...@netscape.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.atheism,alt.talk.creationism,
alt.religion,alt.religion.christian
# Subject: Disapproving Creation:
# Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:23:40 -0800 (PST)
# Message-ID:
<b5430732-e52e-45b5...@p13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
#
#
#> come worshiping at the altar of atheism,
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
>>
>>
>> So, which atheist is going to explain the inexplicable,
>> unscientific, BELIEF in "these {atheist] Gods", with no proof
>> whatsoever, and show us the evidence of how, and where, God evolved
>>
#
#
# "THE Atheist Foundation of Australia has lodged complaints
# of religious discrimination in Melbourne and Hobart
#
# "atheism counts as a religion, Dr Perkins said."
# The Age 29/1/2009
>>> I understand why the supernatural would be welcome.
>>
>> http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6349?context=latest
>>
>> Sure atheists bang on endlessly about the Supernatural, Zombies,
>> Prophet Dawkins and his evolved Gods... pffft!
>>
> Repeating yer lies will not make them facts,
You haven't shown any lies by me, you just snip and run
> Repeating yer lies will not make them facts,
from the facts.
> bigot.
Snipping the facts does not make your lies become truth, bigot
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