Atheism, and how it sadly ends
Dave in Lake Villa
created all of this' or 'where did all of this come from' ? The child
knows , intrinsically, that there must have been a personal Being
responsible for all he can take in thru his senses. If you were to tell
him :' Rocks, Dirt, and Gas ultimately gave us all you see and can sense
(incl. his personality traits of Love, abstract thinking , reasoning,
rationalizing, compassion, empathy, morality, etc).. , due to a giant
explosion' ... he wouldnt buy it even if it came from an adult.
2. Child continues to believe , intrinsically, in some kind of a
personal intelligent Creator as years continue even with school teachers
teaching theoretical-philosophies as Life from dead chemicals and Pond
Scum to 206 bone human being in an effort to denounce the personal
Theistic Creator.
3. Child goes into adolescence and enters rebellious stage of life with
strong desire for complete autonomy and takes offense to being morally
culpable toward anyone..even the Creator of the Universe.
4. Suppression of ones moral conscience takes place as he lives for the
dictates of his Will.
5. Person at this stage, or later into adulthood, starts to offer up
justifications for this moral conscience suppression by affirming that
'there is no creator' and unproven theories are true (because they fit
in with his or her lifestyle choices and autonomy). He starts to live
according to philosophical biases .
6. Person continue thruout life as an alleged atheist , even as he/she
learns how modern science totally debunks atheistic tenets of Macro
Evolution , Abiogensis, and such. Person takes strong issue with people
who know right from wrong and who take a stand for righteousness because
its an affront to them ... a fly in their ointment , because some
conviction sets in .
7. Person gets his heart even more hardened as time passes to the point
where wrong is right and right is wrong , just so long as it feels good
and benefits him . Person chases all the things that the culture deems
as important and ego satisfying incl. power, prestige , money, and
hedonism .
8. Person approaches the end of his life having squandered it on
hedonism, narcissism, and egotism by chasing the elusive Lie that HE is
his own 'god' .
9. Person on his deathbed reviews his life and still knows,
intrinsically, that there has to be an intelligent personal Creator
.but due to a very hardened heart, he refuses to open his heart toward
this Creator in humility to ask forgiveness for his many many poor and
willfully made choices in life . A sense of hopelessness and desparity
sets in deeper than ever before , as he realizes his life didnt take on
anymore meaning than to live for Self, often at the expense of others.
10. Person dies and immediately is faced with life beyond the grave as
much as he didnt want it to be so ; Person gets what he always wanted
while alive : Distance from the Creator . Only forever.
Note: Anywhere along the timeline , the person has the chance of
turning from the lie of our culture and willful self deception hes
embraced for personal ulterior motives., by giving the Creator a chance
with his life and establishing a personal real relationship for which
his life is ultimately made for.
Ken
Everyone alive is born a atheist.
It's only later, when assholes like you start filling their young
minds full
of lies superstitions, fables, myths, fairy tales, and other
religious BULLCRAP that the weakminded ones accept your imaginary sky
faries.
The smarter ones stay atheists
FOAD troll
Dr.Hal0nf1r£$
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davidwg
wrote:
> 1. Child of age 4-7 looks around him (and up) and inquires as to 'who
> created all of this' or 'where did all of this come from' ?
Children follow the religions of their parents and end up believing in
many entirely different gods. In answer to their questions about how
the world came into being they are told the creation myth of that
particular religion which they tend to believe until they find out for
themselves that it is just a myth. Unfortunately some people have not
sufficient education or intelligence to be able to think for
themselves and so continue to believe the myth.
The fundy cretins go one further and try to deny evolution to protect
their creation myth and imaginary god.
David WG
Dr.Hal0nf1r£$
Is it any wonder the Romans had them flogged and thrown out of the city? -
Or crucified.
'Anyone in Illinois own a hungry lion by any chance?
Ken
Unfortunately some people have not sufficient education or
intelligence to be able to think for themselves and so continue to
believe the myth.
David WG
Dimwit couldn't think his way out of a wet paper bag
Dave in Lake Villa
many entirely different gods. In answer to their questions about how the
world came into being they are told the creation myth of that particular
religion which they tend to believe until they find out for themselves
that it is just a myth. Unfortunately some people have not sufficient
education or intelligence to be able to think for themselves and so
continue to believe the myth.
The fundy cretins go one further and try to deny evolution to protect
their creation myth and imaginary god.
REPLY: So then, if a parent told their child the following, the child
would immediately recognize it as the absolute truth ? : 'Johnny,
you, your mom, and I...are here by complete accident for no reason at
all really ; we dont have any ultimate purpose and so none of us are
important at all. For, we all came from a tiny piece of Pond Scum which
accidentally popped into being . So im afraid that we are all totally
worthless as everyone else in the world is ' .
If you are a Parent, did you tell your inquirying child something
simular to the above ? And, was it told to you by your Parents ?
Ben Goren
> REPLY: So then, if a parent told their child the following, the
> child would immediately recognize it as the absolute truth ? :
> 'Johnny, you, your mom, and I...are here by complete accident
> for no reason at all really ; we dont have any ultimate purpose
> and so none of us are important at all. For, we all came from a
> tiny piece of Pond Scum which accidentally popped into being .
> So im afraid that we are all totally worthless as everyone else
> in the world is ' .
>
> If you are a Parent, did you tell your inquirying child
> something simular to the above ? And, was it told to you by your
> Parents ?
You know, as far as the Invisible Pink Unicorn (MPBUHHH) is
concerned, the best tasting straw comes from men. She thanks you
for your kind offering!
Cheers,
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> Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
>
>> REPLY: So then, if a parent told their child the following, the
>> child would immediately recognize it as the absolute truth ? :
>> 'Johnny, you, your mom, and I...are here by complete accident
>> for no reason at all really ; we dont have any ultimate purpose
>> and so none of us are important at all. For, we all came from a
>> tiny piece of Pond Scum which accidentally popped into being .
>> So im afraid that we are all totally worthless as everyone else
>> in the world is ' .
>>
>> If you are a Parent, did you tell your inquirying child
>> something simular to the above ? And, was it told to you by your
>> Parents ?
>
> You know, as far as the Invisible Pink Unicorn (MPBUHHH) is
> concerned, the best tasting straw comes from men. She thanks you
> for your kind offering!
>
Ben Goren
I see you think you like fields of short grass and tall
manure. Don't worry -- you'll have Dave to keep you company....
Dave in Lake Villa
child..that...you are the result of accidental pond scum so you have no
purpose, no meaning, and you are just here to live according to the
dictates of your mind. ???
No Parent would ever tell a child this because every parent knows it is
utterly untrue ; yet when people eventually get indoctrinated in this
very assertion (above), their life becomes one of hopelessness and
despair. Its not until someone IS TAUGHT atheism that this starts to
occur.
Ken
wrote: the usual FUNDY HORSE CRAP
Everyone alive is BORN AN ASTHEIS
It's only later, when assholes like you start filling their young
minds full
of lies superstitions, fables, myths, fairy tales, and other
religious BULLCRAP that the weakminded ones accept your imaginary sky
faries.
The intelligent ones stay as atheists
Observer
So kids automatically believe in your Jesus, with ABSOLUTELY no
indoctrination? Where do they pick up this "belief"?
__
"I don't know any straight-talking Republicans, do you?
I can't get a straight answer out of any Republicans.
I Don't know what they're talking about" - Bill O'Reilly
NotX
wrote:
>On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:28:30 -0500, DaveInL...@webtv.net (Dave in
>Lake Villa) wrote:
>
>>Was anyone in this NG told by their parent(s) when you were a
>>child..that...you are the result of accidental pond scum so you have no
>>purpose, no meaning, and you are just here to live according to the
>>dictates of your mind. ???
>>
>>No Parent would ever tell a child this because every parent knows it is
>>utterly untrue ; yet when people eventually get indoctrinated in this
>>very assertion (above), their life becomes one of hopelessness and
>>despair. Its not until someone IS TAUGHT atheism that this starts to
>>occur.
>
>So kids automatically believe in your Jesus, with ABSOLUTELY no
>indoctrination? Where do they pick up this "belief"?
>
The Holy Parasite crawls in their ears and eats their brains, making
them highly suggestible.
That sounds like it deserves a :-) but it seems to actually be what
Christians say.
>
>
>
>
>__
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>"I don't know any straight-talking Republicans, do you?
>I can't get a straight answer out of any Republicans.
>I Don't know what they're talking about" - Bill O'Reilly
--
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not a genuine scientific theory and, therefore, has
no place in the curriculum of our nation's public
school classes." -- Ted Kennedy
Dave in Lake Villa
child..that...you are the result of accidental pond scum so you have no
purpose, no meaning, and you are just here to live according to the
dictates of your mind. ???
No Parent would ever tell a child this because every parent knows it is
utterly untrue ; yet when people eventually get indoctrinated in this
very assertion (above), their life becomes one of hopelessness and
despair. Its not until someone IS TAUGHT atheism that this starts to
occur.
So kids automatically believe in your Jesus, with ABSOLUTELY no
indoctrination? Where do they pick up this "belief"?
REPLY: They pick up on the fact that something created requires a
Creator. Many times later on, they learn who Jesus is. Now...I was
hoping you could answer the question above that was posed.
NotX
Lake Villa) wrote:
>Was anyone in this NG told by their parent(s) when you were a
>child..that...you are the result of accidental pond scum so you have no
>purpose, no meaning, and you are just here to live according to the
>dictates of your mind. ???
>No Parent would ever tell a child this because every parent knows it is
>utterly untrue ; yet when people eventually get indoctrinated in this
>very assertion (above), their life becomes one of hopelessness and
>despair. Its not until someone IS TAUGHT atheism that this starts to
>occur.
>
>So kids automatically believe in your Jesus, with ABSOLUTELY no
>indoctrination? Where do they pick up this "belief"?
>
>REPLY: They pick up on the fact that something created requires a
>Creator.
Then where did they pick up that strange idea they were created?
> Many times later on, they learn who Jesus is.
There is still no evidence of a real Jesus. There's only the stupid
propaganda of an archaic death cult.
> Now...I was
>hoping you could answer the question above that was posed.
Dr.Hal0nf1r£$
Perhaps you'd like to answer the myriads of questions that you've
deliberately ignored first?
Ken
wrote:
> So kids automatically believe in your Jesus, with ABSOLUTELY no
> indoctrination? Where do they pick up this "belief"?
>
> REPLY: They pick up on the fact that something created requires a
> Creator.
A fact that exists only in your little delusional psychotic world of
pixies, sky fairies, gnomes, trolls and witches
>Now...I was hoping you could answer the question above that was posed.
WHY SHOULD HE?
YOU NEVER ANSWER QUESTIONS WHEN POSED TO YOU
Note:
Have you noticed that many, if not all of Dimwit dave's replies, have
little or
nothing to do with the original subject or, after someone made a
detailed and carefully crafted challenge complete with references to
one of his posts, there's usually no reply
He almost never answers a direct question, but instead goes
off on some tangent about Dog, sex, or religion completely unrelated
to the subject with the intent to gain control of the thread and push
HIS point of view?
Well, there a good reason for all this: HE NEVER READS THEM
Why should he?
He already knows that no one ever agrees with any of his comments
It's much better, in his mind, for him to just push his views than to
waste valuable trolling time reading replies to his endless stream of
bullshit
Observer
I've answered this same question at least a dozen times. You never
respond. You are defective, Dave.
Dr.Hal0nf1r£$
> On Apr 22, 10:46 am, DaveInLakeVi...@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa)
> wrote:
>
>> So kids automatically believe in your Jesus, with ABSOLUTELY no
>> indoctrination? Where do they pick up this "belief"?
>>
>> REPLY: They pick up on the fact that something created requires a
>> Creator.
>
> A fact that exists only in your little delusional psychotic world of
> pixies, sky fairies, gnomes, trolls and witches
>
you ever were shown the world of pixies, [sky] fairies, gnomes, trolls and
witches.
...But this is an Atheist group so we'll not discuss that here.
Dr.Hal0nf1r£$
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:46:47 -0500, DaveInL...@webtv.net (Dave in
> Lake Villa) wrote:
>
>> Was anyone in this NG told by their parent(s) when you were a
>> child..that...you are the result of accidental pond scum so you have
>> no purpose, no meaning, and you are just here to live according to
>> the dictates of your mind. ???
>> No Parent would ever tell a child this because every parent knows it
>> is utterly untrue ; yet when people eventually get indoctrinated in
>> this very assertion (above), their life becomes one of hopelessness
>> and despair. Its not until someone IS TAUGHT atheism that this
>> starts to occur.
>>
>> So kids automatically believe in your Jesus, with ABSOLUTELY no
>> indoctrination? Where do they pick up this "belief"?
>>
>> REPLY: They pick up on the fact that something created requires a
>> Creator. Many times later on, they learn who Jesus is. Now...I was
>> hoping you could answer the question above that was posed.
>
> I've answered this same question at least a dozen times. You never
> respond. You are defective, Dave.
>
Dimwit Dave; the illiterate PI from the Illinois Defective Agency.
Ben Goren
> Ken wrote:
>> Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
>>
>>> So kids automatically believe in your Jesus, with ABSOLUTELY
>>> no indoctrination? Where do they pick up this "belief"?
>>>
>>> REPLY: They pick up on the fact that something created
>>> requires a Creator.
>>
>> A fact that exists only in your little delusional psychotic
>> world of pixies, sky fairies, gnomes, trolls and witches
>
> I think you're confusing Dimwit with a Pagan: You'd be totally
> gobsmacked if you ever were shown the world of pixies, [sky]
> fairies, gnomes, trolls and witches.
Actually, Christianity is chock full of them. It's just that they
occasionally use different names, like ``angels'' and ``demons.''
For example, you'll find wizards having a full-blown duel with
their magic wands in, for example, Exodus 7:10-12.
> ...But this is an Atheist group so we'll not discuss that here.
And that should stop us...why, exactly?
Dr.Hal0nf1r£$
> Dr.Hal0nf1rŹŁ$ wrote:
>
>> Ken wrote:
>>> Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
>>>
>>>> So kids automatically believe in your Jesus, with ABSOLUTELY
>>>> no indoctrination? Where do they pick up this "belief"?
>>>>
>>>> REPLY: They pick up on the fact that something created
>>>> requires a Creator.
>>>
>>> A fact that exists only in your little delusional psychotic
>>> world of pixies, sky fairies, gnomes, trolls and witches
>>
>> I think you're confusing Dimwit with a Pagan: You'd be totally
>> gobsmacked if you ever were shown the world of pixies, [sky]
>> fairies, gnomes, trolls and witches.
>
> Actually, Christianity is chock full of them. It's just that they
> occasionally use different names, like ``angels'' and ``demons.''
>
> For example, you'll find wizards having a full-blown duel with
> their magic wands in, for example, Exodus 7:10-12.
>
>> ...But this is an Atheist group so we'll not discuss that here.
>
> And that should stop us...why, exactly?
>
> Cheers,
>
I assumed it may be off-topic; and we already have too many off-topic posts
from the DFiLV troll.
Observer
Lake Villa) wrote:
>Was anyone in this NG told by their parent(s) when you were a
>child..that...you are the result of accidental pond scum so you have no
>purpose, no meaning, and you are just here to live according to the
>dictates of your mind. ???
Didn't YOUR God claim to have created EVERYTHING? So what is
"accidental" about pond scum?
>No Parent would ever tell a child this because every parent knows it is
>utterly untrue ; yet when people eventually get indoctrinated in this
>very assertion (above), their life becomes one of hopelessness and
>despair. Its not until someone IS TAUGHT atheism that this starts to
>occur.
BULL. FUCKING. SHIT. Dave. Kids don't believe in specific deities
UNTIL someone indoctrinates them.
Observer
<fem...@nospam.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>Ken wrote:
>> On Apr 22, 10:46 am, DaveInLakeVi...@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa)
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So kids automatically believe in your Jesus, with ABSOLUTELY no
>>> indoctrination? Where do they pick up this "belief"?
>>>
>>> REPLY: They pick up on the fact that something created requires a
>>> Creator.
>>
>> A fact that exists only in your little delusional psychotic world of
>> pixies, sky fairies, gnomes, trolls and witches
>>
>I think you're confusing Dimwit with a Pagan: You'd be totally gobsmacked if
>you ever were shown the world of pixies, [sky] fairies, gnomes, trolls and
>witches.
Wait! I've met witches & pagans (folks who worship nature), so I KNOW
witches & pagans exist.
Wait! DaveInTheLakeOfFire posts here, so I KNOW trolls exist.
TT
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:28:30 -0500, DaveInLakeVi...@webtv.net (Dave in
>
> Lake Villa) wrote:
> >Was anyone in this NG told by their parent(s) when you were a
> >child..that...you are the result of accidental pond scum so you have no
> >purpose, no meaning, and you are just here to live according to the
> >dictates of your mind. ???
>
> Didn't YOUR God claim to have created EVERYTHING? So what is
> "accidental" about pond scum?
>
> >No Parent would ever tell a child this because every parent knows it is
> >utterly untrue ; yet when people eventually get indoctrinated in this
> >very assertion (above), their life becomes one of hopelessness and
> >despair. Its not until someone IS TAUGHT atheism that this starts to
> >occur.
>
> BULL. FUCKING. SHIT. Dave. Kids don't believe in specific deities
> UNTIL someone indoctrinates them.
>
parent...they pour the drano that is 'god' down their kids' throats
and gleefully so...life without fear is a godless life...