Re: The atheist dilemma - the unanswerable questions atheists flee from
Morton Lucifer
>
> Here are some logically similar constructions:
They have nothing to do with the unanswerable questions atheists
cut and run from becasue they CAN'T ANSWER THEm! B^]
> Atheists claim the Sun is a giant ball of incandescent Hydrogen and
> Helium powered by Nuclear fusion at its core but if this is so, why
> are the great and enduring civilizations in human history based on
> spiritual values?
>
> Atheists claim that human primary sexual characteristics are
> determined by the possession of either a pair of X chromosomes for
> female or an X and Y chromosome for male but if this is so, why are
> the great
> and enduring civilisations in human history based on spiritual
> values?
>
> Atheists claim that Vesuvius is a Volcano in Italy but if this is so,
> why are the great and enduring civilisations in human history based on
> spiritual values?
They are 'logically similar' in that they are IDENTICALLY irrelevant and
pointlessly so.
> And so on...
>
> The truth of the statement before the "but" is completely unrelated to
> the "question" which follows the "but".
And the head of the atheist is completely inserted IN it's 'but';
http://data5.blog.de/media/481/2584481_bdc195fac4_m.jpeg
> Also the question is itself a real corker.
Then why didn't you use your question rather than your head?
> What exactly is a great and enduring civilisation?
I knew atheists would have no idea!
> Has the earth actually had one yet?
Only those among us who have evolved from knuckle dragging
rock-bangers to wearing iPods on their way to work at NASA
could understand how stupid that question is.. even for an atheist!
> Was Rome great? Did it endure?
Er, sorry to break it to you, dumbo. but Rome STILL endures! B^]
[Jeez .. what a nutjob! B^]
> It was great in some ways it endured for some time.
So you agree it was great, and endured, but you don't
know if Rome was a civilisation!? pfffffft
Why are you wasting my time?
> It was filled with spiritual beliefs - religions abounded
And it lasted as a mighty empire for centuries.
Every atheist regime in history has been a catastrophic failure
which imploded within a few decades.
> Was Rome Great?
Yes.
> Did it Endure?
Sure.
> Wasn't the Soviet union part and parcel of western civilisation
No, that's why they were called the Eastern Bloc. B^p
Rome Was the Western Church, Constantinople was the Eastern.
Why are you bothering us when you are so clearly ignorant
of even the basics of the history of Western Civilisation?
> was Hitlers germany)? Where do we draw the lines marking the
> boundaries of civilisation?
If you have to ask if Hitler's Nazi regime is civilised I suggest
yo fuck off and get a clue! pffft!
>
>> There has never been a great and
>> enduring atheist civilisation,
>
> There has never been an atheist civilisation at all!
Exactly!
It is not even in the race! B^D
Atheism makes many claims - "Atheism is a rational
position", "Atheism is free of the dogma of primitive
superstition".. but if this is so, why are the great
and enduring civilisations in human history based on
spiritual values? There has never been a great and
enduring atheist civilisation, and every atheist state
has been a totalitarian tyranny - the Union of Savage
Slaughter and Repression (USSR), Mao's Great Leap
Backwards and Cultural Devolution, Pol Pots Cambodian
Genocide.
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
In a mere 70 years these atheist tyrannies, terrorised
tortured and killed over 70,000,000 people, more than the
followers of any religion in all of human history.
The proof that atheism is at best an ineffectual, impotent
sub branch of nihilism, and at worst a dangerous and deadly
dogma is that every atheist chooses to live in open,
democratic MAJORITY RELIGIOUS societies where their rights
are protected, than in the last of the atheist states, North
Korea.
--
95 Theses for Atheist Reformation
All belief systems ossify over time.
Jesus taught that Love came before politics and wealth,
but his church pursued the latter.
Mohammed brought revolutionary rights for women, but his
followers wound them back in favour of traditional male privilege.
And atheism, once a tiny and ineffectual offshoot of Greek philosophy
has devolved into a series of dreadful totalitarian tyrannies.
What is required is Reformation. In religion this is achieved by
progressive revelation.. the Divine CYCLE of revival and rebirth;
Springtime, Summer, Autumn, Winter
In atheism guidance must come from a lesser source;
The Atheist Reformation Movement - ARM
Gentleman, TO ARMs!
Cry Havoc and Let Slip the Blogs of Reform!
fasgnadh wrote:
# By the time we get to the Enlightenment people understood that
# a God who stops you from hitting the ground when you fall over,
# is a puppet master controlling automatons, not the creator
# of autonomous beings with free will and responsibility.
#
# Still the atheists cling to their simplistic caricatures.
#
# They even blame the god they claim not to believe in, for NOT
# STOPPING the mass murders of the atheist holocausts!!! 8^o
#
# http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:10645?context=latest
#
# As alt.atheism shows they share the fundamentalists LITERAL reading
# of the Bible, believing that their ignorant misunderstandings of
# metaphor shows faults in the text.
#
#
# The fundamentalists are like Philistines staring at the Venus de Milo,
# and complaining that it is not anatomically correct:
#
# "Where's the ARMS" they wail, to the amusement of Art Historians
# and art lovers alike!
Well, I am here to RESTORE the ARMs, and with it, decency and
respectability to atheism..
# In the 19th century, Nietzsche Freud and Marx, all singularly
# unimpressive individuals, (respectively disturbed, neurotic,
# and misogynist) advanced theories rejecting God. And laid
# the groundwork for the totalitarian horrors of the 20th Century.
#
# The worst barbarity occurred in the 'Modern'(sic) Era, when God
# had been proclaimed Dead in the hearts of man, Religion declared
# the Opium of the people, and the sexuality of the neurotic Viennese
# Bourgeois became the central obsession of mankind.
#
# Gas chambers and Gulags, millions systematically tortured terrorised
# and murdered, churches burned, then entire cities, priests killed then
# entire communities.. the Atheist shitholes were the worst and most
# miserable, and their peoples could not wait for them to be assigned
# to the dustbin of FAILED experiments.
#
# And yet modern atheists, like modern Nazis, refuse to acknowledge
# the holocausts carried out by THEIR ideology, in every case where it
# came to power! 8^o
#
#
# Atheism needs REFORM.
#
# It has become a haven of Blind Faith and Dogma
#
# Morton Lucifer needs to nail his 95 Theses to the door
# of Dawkin's house.. or perhaps to his forehead...! B^D
#
# and launch the ATHEIST REFORMATION!!! B^D
I have heard the call of long suffering atheists tired of
the corruption and violence perpetrated in their name,
who remember when atheism was a simple personal belief,
not a violent and repressive political ideology that has
terrorised, tortured and carried out Mass Murder and Crimes
against humanity in half the world!
I call on all the decent, well meaning atheists to join ARM,
the Atheist Reformation Movement, and purge it of the rabid
and dogmatic fanatics which have seized the movement and made
it anathema to all rational minds and decent folk.
Atheism, if it is to survive, must cease it's historical
association with Mass Murder, torture, terror, repression,
anti-theist persecution and pogrom, mass murder and other Crimes
against Humanity.
It must take stock, become more humble, in accordance with it's
insignificance, morally, intellectually, socially, numerically,
culturally, in Science and politically.. it is after all simply
a belief, unprovable, with no relevance to, or importance to normal
life. The Theists have already created rational secular societies
protecting the freedoms of all. Atheists must stop being mere whiners,
and barking mongrel dogs.
Perhaps a vow of silence and retreat to a monastery is in their best
interests, as befits a tiny, impotent and irrelevant sub-branch of
Nihilism.
> Atheism is now, in the hands of Dawkins and Hitchins, a populist
> dogma. It still tries to wear the mantle of science, aided in this
> by the (mostly American) Creationist morons, who cannot understand
> that creation does not unfold according to THEIR understanding,
>
>
> The Big Bang, the fundamental scientific theory of the origin of the
> Universe, was developed by Monsignor Georges Lema�tre, a Catholic
> Prelate, professor of physics and astronomer at the Catholic
> University of Leuven!
>
> Religion is clearly NO IMPEDIMENT to rational science!
>
> That title belongs to the Atheist tyrannies, the Union of Savage
> Slaughter and Repression, Mao's Great Leap Backward and Cultural
> Devolution, and Pol Pots Year Zero genocide.
>
> Not only science, but art, music, culture and all of
> human society entered a Dark Age during the Atheist tyrannies!
>
>
> Atheism, given the chance, did NOT usher in a new, rational Utopia,
> but immersed millions in misery and despair.
>
> The problem for atheists is, there is not much there to RE FORM! B^D
I will do what I can with what there is.
Even animal dung can be used to daub the walls of peasant huts! B^)
--
95 Theses for Atheist Reformation
All belief systems ossify over time.
Jesus taught that Love came before politics and wealth,
but his church pursued the latter.
Mohammed brought revolutionary rights for women, but his
followers wound them back in favour of traditional male privilege.
And atheism, once a tiny and ineffectual offshoot of Greek philosophy
has devolved into a series of dreadful totalitarian tyrannies.
What is required is Reformation. In religion this is achieved by
progressive revelation.. the Divine CYCLE of revival and rebirth;
Springtime, Summer, Autumn, Winter
In atheism guidance must come from a lesser source;
The Atheist Reformation Movement - ARM
Gentleman, TO ARMs!
Cry Havoc and Let Slip the Blogs of Reform!
fasgnadh wrote:
# By the time we get to the Enlightenment people understood that
# a God who stops you from hitting the ground when you fall over,
# is a puppet master controlling automatons, not the creator
# of autonomous beings with free will and responsibility.
#
# Still the atheists cling to their simplistic caricatures.
#
# They even blame the god they claim not to believe in, for NOT
# STOPPING the mass murders of the atheist holocausts!!! 8^o
#
# http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:10645?context=latest
#
# As alt.atheism shows they share the fundamentalists LITERAL reading
# of the Bible, believing that their ignorant misunderstandings of
# metaphor shows faults in the text.
#
#
# The fundamentalists are like Philistines staring at the Venus de Milo,
# and complaining that it is not anatomically correct:
#
# "Where's the ARMS" they wail, to the amusement of Art Historians
# and art lovers alike!
Well, I am here to RESTORE the ARMs, and with it, decency and
respectability to atheism..
# In the 19th century, Nietzsche Freud and Marx, all singularly
# unimpressive individuals, (respectively disturbed, neurotic,
# and misogynist) advanced theories rejecting God. And laid
# the groundwork for the totalitarian horrors of the 20th Century.
#
# The worst barbarity occurred in the 'Modern'(sic) Era, when God
# had been proclaimed Dead in the hearts of man, Religion declared
# the Opium of the people, and the sexuality of the neurotic Viennese
# Bourgeois became the central obsession of mankind.
#
# Gas chambers and Gulags, millions systematically tortured terrorised
# and murdered, churches burned, then entire cities, priests killed then
# entire communities.. the Atheist shitholes were the worst and most
# miserable, and their peoples could not wait for them to be assigned
# to the dustbin of FAILED experiments.
#
# And yet modern atheists, like modern Nazis, refuse to acknowledge
# the holocausts carried out by THEIR ideology, in every case where it
# came to power! 8^o
#
#
# Atheism needs REFORM.
#
# It has become a haven of Blind Faith and Dogma
#
# Morton Lucifer needs to nail his 95 Theses to the door
# of Dawkin's house.. or perhaps to his forehead...! B^D
#
# and launch the ATHEIST REFORMATION!!! B^D
I have heard the call of long suffering atheists tired of
the corruption and violence perpetrated in their name,
who remember when atheism was a simple personal belief,
not a violent and repressive political ideology that has
terrorised, tortured and carried out Mass Murder and Crimes
against humanity in half the world!
I call on all the decent, well meaning atheists to join ARM,
the Atheist Reformation Movement, and purge it of the rabid
and dogmatic fanatics which have seized the movement and made
it anathema to all rational minds and decent folk.
Atheism, if it is to survive, must cease it's historical
association with Mass Murder, torture, terror, repression,
anti-theist persecution and pogrom, mass murder and other Crimes
against Humanity.
It must take stock, become more humble, in accordance with it's
insignificance, morally, intellectually, socially, numerically,
culturally, in Science and politically.. it is after all simply
a belief, unprovable, with no relevance to, or importance to normal
life. The Theists have already created rational secular societies
protecting the freedoms of all. Atheists must stop being mere whiners,
and barking mongrel dogs.
Perhaps a vow of silence and retreat to a monastery is in their best
interests, as befits a tiny, impotent and irrelevant sub-branch of
Nihilism.
> Atheism is now, in the hands of Dawkins and Hitchins, a populist
> dogma. It still tries to wear the mantle of science, aided in this
> by the (mostly American) Creationist morons, who cannot understand
> that creation does not unfold according to THEIR understanding,
>
>
> The Big Bang, the fundamental scientific theory of the origin of the
> Universe, was developed by Monsignor Georges Lema�tre, a Catholic
> Prelate, professor of physics and astronomer at the Catholic
> University of Leuven!
>
> Religion is clearly NO IMPEDIMENT to rational science!
>
> That title belongs to the Atheist tyrannies, the Union of Savage
> Slaughter and Repression, Mao's Great Leap Backward and Cultural
> Devolution, and Pol Pots Year Zero genocide.
>
> Not only science, but art, music, culture and all of
> human society entered a Dark Age during the Atheist tyrannies!
>
>
> Atheism, given the chance, did NOT usher in a new, rational Utopia,
> but immersed millions in misery and despair.
>
> The problem for atheists is, there is not much there to RE FORM! B^D
I will do what I can with what there is.
Even animal dung can be used to daub the walls of peasant huts! B^)