Re: Christian pettiness

[HVAC]

On 5/31/2012 1:03 PM, duke wrote:
>
>> Again. If god is displeased with how I live, I will let
>> HIM tell me....Not you nor anyone else.
>
> Oh, he'll tell you, for sure. But, by that time, it's too late to change.


Then the game is rigged and god sucks dick.



How do you like me now, Duke?












--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

[duke]

On Thu, 31 May 2012 13:14:57 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 5/31/2012 1:03 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>>> Again. If god is displeased with how I live, I will let
>>> HIM tell me....Not you nor anyone else.
>>
>> Oh, he'll tell you, for sure. But, by that time, it's too late to change.

>Then the game is rigged and god sucks dick.

You just refused to listen to him like the rest of us did.

>How do you like me now, Duke?

I'm not our judge.

duke - American American

*****
2012 - end of an error
Vote Republican in 2012
*****

[Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Other of the Borg]

In article <d9rhs7l2vn0u111bj...@4ax.com>,

duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> I'm not our judge.

I already know that.

--
Aren't you special. Tell me your problems.

[HVAC]

On 6/1/2012 12:26 PM, duke wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2012 13:14:57 -0400, HVAC<mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/31/2012 1:03 PM, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> Again. If god is displeased with how I live, I will let
>>>> HIM tell me....Not you nor anyone else.
>>>
>>> Oh, he'll tell you, for sure. But, by that time, it's too late to change.
>
>> Then the game is rigged and god sucks dick.
>
> You just refused to listen to him like the rest of us did.

Why then is god unable to have me hear him clearly.

>> How do you like me now, Duke?
>
> I'm not our judge.

In your statement re-posted above, you say that it will
be too late to change. That is you making a judgement.

[Antares 531]

On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 08:54:06 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 6/1/2012 12:26 PM, duke wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 May 2012 13:14:57 -0400, HVAC<mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/31/2012 1:03 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Again. If god is displeased with how I live, I will let
>>>>> HIM tell me....Not you nor anyone else.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, he'll tell you, for sure. But, by that time, it's too late to change.
>>
>>> Then the game is rigged and god sucks dick.
>>
>> You just refused to listen to him like the rest of us did.
>
>Why then is god unable to have me hear him clearly.
>

God wants you to go which ever way you volitionally choose.
"VOLITIONAL CHOICE" is the key idea, here. If He overwhelmed you with
irrefutable evidence you would be compelled to knuckle under and go
His way, like a soldier marching under the command of the Field First
Sergeant. Gordon

[HVAC]

On 6/2/2012 10:13 AM, Antares 531 wrote:
>
>> Why then is god unable to have me hear him clearly.
>>
> God wants you to go which ever way you volitionally choose.

So then I'm good. I go my own way.

[duke]

On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:08:27 -0700, Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Other
of the Borg <six-...@borgcollective.gov> wrote:

>In article <d9rhs7l2vn0u111bj...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm not our judge.
>
>I already know that.

God is that.

[duke]

On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 08:54:06 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 6/1/2012 12:26 PM, duke wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 May 2012 13:14:57 -0400, HVAC<mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/31/2012 1:03 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Again. If god is displeased with how I live, I will let
>>>>> HIM tell me....Not you nor anyone else.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, he'll tell you, for sure. But, by that time, it's too late to change.
>>
>>> Then the game is rigged and god sucks dick.
>>
>> You just refused to listen to him like the rest of us did.
>
>Why then is god unable to have me hear him clearly.

He allows you to refuse to hear him. Your eternal future is therefore thusly
settled.

>>> How do you like me now, Duke?
> I'm not our judge.

>In your statement re-posted above, you say that it will
>be too late to change. That is you making a judgement.

Nope, I'm only repeating what God said - that you have up until the moment you
die to repent and declare your love for God and in following him.

Better start now. Sudden death does you in.

[duke]

On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 11:47:42 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 6/2/2012 10:13 AM, Antares 531 wrote:
>>
>>> Why then is god unable to have me hear him clearly.
>>>
>> God wants you to go which ever way you volitionally choose.
>
>
>So then I'm good. I go my own way.

Yep, the flesh can only go one way. Satan loves that for he himself is of the
flesh..

[harry k]

On Jun 2, 7:13 am, Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 08:54:06 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On 6/1/2012 12:26 PM, duke wrote:

> >> On Thu, 31 May 2012 13:14:57 -0400, HVAC<mr.h...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
> >>> On 5/31/2012 1:03 PM, duke wrote:
>
> >>>>> Again. If god is displeased with how I live, I will let
> >>>>> HIM tell me....Not you nor anyone else.
>
> >>>> Oh, he'll tell you, for sure.   But, by that time, it's too late to change.
>
> >>> Then the game is rigged and god sucks dick.
>
> >> You just refused to listen to him like the rest of us did.
>
> >Why then is god unable to have me hear him clearly.
>
> God wants you to go which ever way you volitionally choose.
> "VOLITIONAL CHOICE" is the key idea, here. If He overwhelmed you with
> irrefutable evidence you would be compelled to knuckle under and go
> His way, like a soldier marching under the command of the Field First
> Sergeant.   Gordon
>
>
>
>
>
> >>> How do you like me now, Duke?
>
> >> I'm not our judge.
>
> >In your statement re-posted above, you say that it will
> >be too late to change. That is you making a judgement.

Since, according to doctrine, God is all knowing and thus knows what
you will do, you have no choice in the matter. It is pre-ordained.
There is no "free will" there.

Harry K

[linuxgal]

duke wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 11:47:42 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6/2/2012 10:13 AM, Antares 531 wrote:
>>>> Why then is god unable to have me hear him clearly.
>>>>
>>> God wants you to go which ever way you volitionally choose.
>>
>> So then I'm good. I go my own way.
>
> Yep, the flesh can only go one way. Satan loves that for he himself is of the
> flesh..

I thought Satan was supposed to be an angelic spirit.

[HVAC]

On 6/2/2012 12:19 PM, duke wrote:
>
>>> God wants you to go which ever way you volitionally choose.
>>
>>
>> So then I'm good. I go my own way.
>
> Yep, the flesh can only go one way. Satan loves that for he himself is of the
> flesh..

Since god created satan, god is responsible for satan's actions.

[HVAC]

On 6/2/2012 12:16 PM, duke wrote:
>
>>> You just refused to listen to him like the rest of us did.
>>
>> Why then is god unable to have me hear him clearly.
>
> He allows you to refuse to hear him.

So then, how should I know his will as you do?

>> In your statement re-posted above, you say that it will
>> be too late to change. That is you making a judgement.
>
> Nope, I'm only repeating what God said

I don't believe YOU. If you're on speaking terms with god, have
him send me an e-mail or text detailing his divine plan for me.

[Antares 531]

On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:56:58 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 6/2/2012 12:19 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>>>> God wants you to go which ever way you volitionally choose.
>>>
>>>
>>> So then I'm good. I go my own way.
>>
>> Yep, the flesh can only go one way. Satan loves that for he himself is of the
>> flesh..
>
>
>Since god created satan, god is responsible for satan's actions.
>

God's creation was absolutely complete...including everything. Had it
been less than complete it could never be perfect. This being so, evil
had to be included. God is now in the process of separating good from
evil. Once this separation process has been completed the two realms
will be eternally separated and no interaction between the two will
ever be possible. Which side of that portal do you want to be on?

Gordon

[Antares 531]

Are you implying that if I or anyone else could travel ahead in time
and observe your activities for the rest of your life, then come back
to this time, this would mean that you no longer had any free will?

Gordon

[BDK]

In article <hfkks7hia2gfpj7ch...@4ax.com>,
gordonl...@swbell.net says...

I don't know about him, but I prefer to just slowly back away from
someone who is in godder mode, keeping my eyes on their hands until I
get out of range.

--
BDK- Head FUD-Master Blaster, backing away from you slowly....

[HVAC]

On 6/2/2012 3:08 PM, BDK wrote:
>
>>>>>> God wants you to go which ever way you volitionally choose.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So then I'm good. I go my own way.
>>>

>>> Since god created satan, god is responsible for satan's actions.
>>>
>> God's creation was absolutely complete...including everything. Had it
>> been less than complete it could never be perfect. This being so, evil
>> had to be included. God is now in the process of separating good from
>> evil. Once this separation process has been completed the two realms
>> will be eternally separated and no interaction between the two will
>> ever be possible. Which side of that portal do you want to be on?
>>
>> Gordon
>
> I don't know about him, but I prefer to just slowly back away from
> someone who is in godder mode, keeping my eyes on their hands until I
> get out of range.

Gordon is a self appointed apologist for god.
I love it when he gives his 'quantum god' speech.

B...There's miles of sport to be had with these god freaks.

[Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Other of the Borg]

In article <651afbf6-fcd9-4b7c...@ra8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,

harry k <turnk...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Since, according to doctrine, God is all knowing and thus knows what
> you will do, you have no choice in the matter. It is pre-ordained.
> There is no "free will" there.

That's a silly argument from ancient Greeks that did not know about quantum
superpositionning. The god-to-be will be able to see all possible futures and
all possible pasts. Our decisions will have no more meaning to the god-to-be
then whether you care if a neuron decides to open a potassium channel or pump
potassium out.

[Christopher A. Lee]

On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 09:13:04 -0500, Antares 531
<gordonl...@swbell.net> wrote:


>>> You just refused to listen to him like the rest of us did.

Lie.

>>Why then is god unable to have me hear him clearly.
>>
>God

What fucking "God", question-begging moron who rudely and stupidly
posts his bullshit where he knows it isn't taken seriously?

> wants you to go which ever way you volitionally choose.

Idiot.

>"VOLITIONAL CHOICE" is the key idea, here. If He overwhelmed you with

Who, idiot?

>irrefutable evidence you would be compelled to knuckle under and go
>His way, like a soldier marching under the command of the Field First
>Sergeant. Gordon

Get help.

Serious.

[Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Other of the Borg]

In article <0veks7p5pkurjtbfc...@4ax.com>,

duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:08:27 -0700, Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the
> Other
> of the Borg <six-...@borgcollective.gov> wrote:
>
> >In article <d9rhs7l2vn0u111bj...@4ax.com>,
> > duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm not our judge.
> >
> >I already know that.
>
> God is that.

And your little god requires your advice and your approval.

[Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Other of the Borg]

In article <hfkks7hia2gfpj7ch...@4ax.com>,

Antares 531 <gordonl...@swbell.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:56:58 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On 6/2/2012 12:19 PM, duke wrote:
> >>
> >>>> God wants you to go which ever way you volitionally choose.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> So then I'm good. I go my own way.
> >>
> >> Yep, the flesh can only go one way. Satan loves that for he himself is of
> >> the
> >> flesh..
> >
> >
> >Since god created satan, god is responsible for satan's actions.
> >
> God's creation was absolutely complete...including everything. Had it
> been less than complete it could never be perfect. This being so, evil
> had to be included. God is now in the process of separating good from

There is no good or evil. Your mere existence patterns space so that god-to-be
will be created. You can choose to harmonize with the god for your own benefit;
if you choose not to, you will suffer, and your suffering will be your own
construction. The god-to-be will create this universe so that we will serve it
however we choose to serve it.

[Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Other of the Borg]

In article <2sadnek6BtiG3FfS...@giganews.com>,

Satan is human construct, an anthromorphic projection of your species own
psychological crises.

[harry k]

On Jun 2, 12:08 pm, BDK <Cont...@Worldcontrol.com> wrote:
> In article <hfkks7hia2gfpj7chegdglo4oh30ghk...@4ax.com>,
> gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net says...

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:56:58 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >On 6/2/2012 12:19 PM, duke wrote:
>
> > >>>> God wants you to go which ever way you volitionally choose.
>
> > >>> So then I'm good.  I go my own way.
>
> > >> Yep, the flesh can only go one way.  Satan loves that for he himself is of the
> > >> flesh..
>
> > >Since god created satan, god is responsible for satan's actions.
>
> > God's creation was absolutely complete...including everything. Had it
> > been less than complete it could never be perfect. This being so, evil
> > had to be included. God is now in the process of separating good from
> > evil. Once this separation process has been completed the two realms
> > will be eternally separated and no interaction between the two will
> > ever be possible. Which side of that portal do you want to be on?
>
> > Gordon
>
> I don't know about him, but I prefer to just slowly back away from
> someone who is in godder mode, keeping my eyes on their hands until I
> get out of range.
>
> --
> BDK- Head FUD-Master Blaster, backing away from you slowly....

Be sure to keep one hand on your wallet also!

Harry K

[harry k]

According to your doctrine, I _don't_ have any free will. Why do i
need to spell it out twice for you? don't you understand your own
beliefs?

Harry K

[harry k]

On Jun 2, 10:51 am, Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote:

Just how many times has he seperated the good and evil...and failed
every time? Not a good advertisement for an "all powerful god". It
also shows he is incapable of learning...and that he isn't very bright
since as an '"all knowwin god" he knew he would fail every time.

Harry K

[Olrik]

:-)

The «god» of the xians would be a complete failure in real life.

[Forrest Piper]

Surrrrrre, as long as He left puny humans behind, to be eaten by
monsters...

http://msgboard.snopes.com/photos/odd/graphics/giants2.jpg
http://msgboard.snopes.com/photos/odd/graphics/giants4.jpg
http://msgboard.snopes.com/photos/odd/graphics/giants6.jpg

I almost forgot, most puny humans only deal with dead earth snacks...

http://www.endtimeprophecy.net/Images/Giants/Giant-03.jpg

[saul...@cox.net]

THAT'S A PERFECT DESCRIPTION OF SAPPY PAPPY!

SURE MAKES THE PIG LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT!

Saul Levy

[duke]

On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 13:46:19 -0700, Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Other

of the Borg <six-...@borgcollective.gov> wrote:

>In article <0veks7p5pkurjtbfc...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:08:27 -0700, Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the
>> Other
>> of the Borg <six-...@borgcollective.gov> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <d9rhs7l2vn0u111bj...@4ax.com>,
>> > duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm not our judge.
>> >
>> >I already know that.
>>
>> God is that.
>
>And your little god requires your advice and your approval.

No, but any kid that thinks "borg" is in heavy need of help.

[saul...@cox.net]

THAT THIRD ONE IS ED CONRAD, ISN'T IT?

HE LOOKS DUMBER THAN ELEPHANT SHIT!

Saul Levy

[duke]

Fallen angel. Nice story. Easy way to make old timey man to think in terms of
the wrong we do because "satan" made us do it, not because it's the natural evil
in our own hearts that we can't or won't overcome.

[duke]

On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:56:58 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 6/2/2012 12:19 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>>>> God wants you to go which ever way you volitionally choose.
>>>
>>>
>>> So then I'm good. I go my own way.
>>
>> Yep, the flesh can only go one way. Satan loves that for he himself is of the
>> flesh..
>
>
>Since god created satan, god is responsible for satan's actions.

Could be, but that doesn't excuse you from being responsible for your own
actions.

[duke]

On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:51:11 -0500, Antares 531 <gordonl...@swbell.net>
wrote:

>On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:56:58 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 6/2/2012 12:19 PM, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>>> God wants you to go which ever way you volitionally choose.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So then I'm good. I go my own way.
>>>
>>> Yep, the flesh can only go one way. Satan loves that for he himself is of the
>>> flesh..
>>
>>
>>Since god created satan, god is responsible for satan's actions.
>>
>God's creation was absolutely complete...including everything. Had it
>been less than complete it could never be perfect.

> This being so, evil
>had to be included. God is now in the process of separating good from
>evil.

Yeah, and he is asking for our help to purge ourselves.

>Once this separation process has been completed the two realms
>will be eternally separated and no interaction between the two will
>ever be possible. Which side of that portal do you want to be on?

Nobody knows.

>Gordon

[duke]

Right, satan loves you doing that.

[duke]

On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 21:42:35 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnk...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Jun 2, 10:51 am, Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:56:58 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On 6/2/2012 12:19 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>> >>>> God wants you to go which ever way you volitionally choose.
>>
>> >>> So then I'm good.  I go my own way.
>>
>> >> Yep, the flesh can only go one way.  Satan loves that for he himself is of the
>> >> flesh..
>>
>> >Since god created satan, god is responsible for satan's actions.
>>
>> God's creation was absolutely complete...including everything. Had it
>> been less than complete it could never be perfect. This being so, evil
>> had to be included. God is now in the process of separating good from
>> evil. Once this separation process has been completed the two realms
>> will be eternally separated and no interaction between the two will
>> ever be possible. Which side of that portal do you want to be on?
>>
>> Gordon

>Just how many times has he seperated the good and evil...and failed
> every time?

Au contraire. Some of us are working hard to get ourselves on the right side.

Now, if you don't care which side you end up on, you'll likely find yourself on
the one that makes you think you made a mistake.

> Not a good advertisement for an "all powerful god".

Hey, foolish people like you don't listen anyway.

>It also shows he is incapable of learning...and that he isn't very bright
>since as an '"all knowwin god" he knew he would fail every time.
>
>Harry K

[Free Lunch]

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:27:55 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
alt.atheism:

>On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:56:58 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 6/2/2012 12:19 PM, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>>> God wants you to go which ever way you volitionally choose.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So then I'm good. I go my own way.
>>>
>>> Yep, the flesh can only go one way. Satan loves that for he himself is of the
>>> flesh..
>>
>>
>>Since god created satan, god is responsible for satan's actions.
>
>Could be, but that doesn't excuse you from being responsible for your own
>actions.

Says the proudly racist fool.

[duke]

On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 09:30:23 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnk...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Jun 2, 7:13 am, Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 08:54:06 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On 6/1/2012 12:26 PM, duke wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 31 May 2012 13:14:57 -0400, HVAC<mr.h...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>> >>> On 5/31/2012 1:03 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>> >>>>> Again. If god is displeased with how I live, I will let
>> >>>>> HIM tell me....Not you nor anyone else.
>>
>> >>>> Oh, he'll tell you, for sure.   But, by that time, it's too late to change.
>>
>> >>> Then the game is rigged and god sucks dick.
>>
>> >> You just refused to listen to him like the rest of us did.
>>

>> >Why then is god unable to have me hear him clearly.
>>

>> God wants you to go which ever way you volitionally choose.

>> "VOLITIONAL CHOICE" is the key idea, here. If He overwhelmed you with
>> irrefutable evidence you would be compelled to knuckle under and go
>> His way, like a soldier marching under the command of the Field First
>> Sergeant.   Gordon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >>> How do you like me now, Duke?
>>

>> >> I'm not our judge.
>>

>> >In your statement re-posted above, you say that it will
>> >be too late to change. That is you making a judgement.

>Since, according to doctrine, God is all knowing and thus knows what
>you will do, you have no choice in the matter. It is pre-ordained.
>There is no "free will" there.

God only knows what your free will drives you to. You don't know yet what your
final decision will be. Choose carefully.

[duke]

On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 13:00:18 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 6/2/2012 12:16 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>>>> You just refused to listen to him like the rest of us did.
>>>
>>> Why then is god unable to have me hear him clearly.
>>
>> He allows you to refuse to hear him.

>So then, how should I know his will as you do?

He told us.

John 13:34 (New International Version)
34 鄭 new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you
must love one another.

>>> In your statement re-posted above, you say that it will
>>> be too late to change. That is you making a judgement.

>> Nope, I'm only repeating what God said

>I don't believe YOU. If you're on speaking terms with god, have
>him send me an e-mail or text detailing his divine plan for me.

Just accept my post. He's already said that's the answer.

[Free Lunch]

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:33:00 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
alt.atheism:

>On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 21:42:35 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnk...@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Jun 2, 10:51 am, Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:56:58 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >On 6/2/2012 12:19 PM, duke wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>> God wants you to go which ever way you volitionally choose.
>>>
>>> >>> So then I'm good.  I go my own way.
>>>
>>> >> Yep, the flesh can only go one way.  Satan loves that for he himself is of the
>>> >> flesh..
>>>
>>> >Since god created satan, god is responsible for satan's actions.
>>>
>>> God's creation was absolutely complete...including everything. Had it
>>> been less than complete it could never be perfect. This being so, evil
>>> had to be included. God is now in the process of separating good from
>>> evil. Once this separation process has been completed the two realms
>>> will be eternally separated and no interaction between the two will
>>> ever be possible. Which side of that portal do you want to be on?
>>>
>>> Gordon
>
>>Just how many times has he seperated the good and evil...and failed
>> every time?
>
>Au contraire. Some of us are working hard to get ourselves on the right side.

Of the petty little tyrant that you describe when you talk about your
god.

[Free Lunch]

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:35:59 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
alt.atheism:

>On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 13:00:18 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 6/2/2012 12:16 PM, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>>> You just refused to listen to him like the rest of us did.
>>>>
>>>> Why then is god unable to have me hear him clearly.
>>>
>>> He allows you to refuse to hear him.
>
>>So then, how should I know his will as you do?
>
>He told us.
>
>John 13:34 (New International Version)
> 34 鄭 new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you
>must love one another.

There's no evidence that any god had anything to do with the writing of
the Bible. There are some self-serving statements within the book
itself, but that is meaningless.

>>>> In your statement re-posted above, you say that it will
>>>> be too late to change. That is you making a judgement.
>
>>> Nope, I'm only repeating what God said
>
>>I don't believe YOU. If you're on speaking terms with god, have
>>him send me an e-mail or text detailing his divine plan for me.
>
>Just accept my post. He's already said that's the answer.

Why don't you back up your claim with evidence?

I guess that's tough to do when you know you have no evidence.

[duke]

Has nothing to do with your responsibility for your own actions.

[saul...@cox.net]

I IGNORE ALL THE FAKE GODS, duke!

SHOW ME A REAL ONE, I DARE YOU!

BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

THERE ARE NO REAL ONES!

Saul Levy


On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 11:16:39 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 08:54:06 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 6/1/2012 12:26 PM, duke wrote:

>>> On Thu, 31 May 2012 13:14:57 -0400, HVAC<mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/31/2012 1:03 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Again. If god is displeased with how I live, I will let
>>>>>> HIM tell me....Not you nor anyone else.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, he'll tell you, for sure. But, by that time, it's too late to change.
>>>
>>>> Then the game is rigged and god sucks dick.
>>>

>>> You just refused to listen to him like the rest of us did.
>>
>>Why then is god unable to have me hear him clearly.
>

>He allows you to refuse to hear him. Your eternal future is therefore thusly
>settled.

>
>>>> How do you like me now, Duke?
>> I'm not our judge.
>

>>In your statement re-posted above, you say that it will
>>be too late to change. That is you making a judgement.
>

>Nope, I'm only repeating what God said - that you have up until the moment you
>die to repent and declare your love for God and in following him.
>
>Better start now. Sudden death does you in.
>
>
>duke - American American

[saul...@cox.net]

THE BORG ARE LIVING ON VENUS, duke!

SO SAYS GOOFY THE VILLAGE IDIOT!

YOU BELIEVE GOOFY, DON'T YOU?

IF YOU BELIEVE ONE, THEN YOU BELIEVE IT ALL!

Saul Levy

[Free Lunch]

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 10:13:03 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in

alt.atheism:

>On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:33:31 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:27:55 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>>alt.atheism:
>>
>>>On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:56:58 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 6/2/2012 12:19 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> God wants you to go which ever way you volitionally choose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So then I'm good. I go my own way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, the flesh can only go one way. Satan loves that for he himself is of the
>>>>> flesh..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Since god created satan, god is responsible for satan's actions.
>>>
>>>Could be, but that doesn't excuse you from being responsible for your own
>>>actions.
>>
>>Says the proudly racist fool.
>
>Has nothing to do with your responsibility for your own actions.

It has a lot to do with whether I will listen to your religious claims.
You have shown me that you reject what Jesus taught while, at the same
time, trying to preach your version of Christianity. There is no valid
reason for me to accept your preaching when you show us that you reject
it yourself.

[duke]

I don't talk about you when I talk about God.

[duke]

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 11:07:45 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

>On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 10:13:03 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>alt.atheism:
>
>>On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:33:31 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:27:55 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>>>alt.atheism:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:56:58 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 6/2/2012 12:19 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> God wants you to go which ever way you volitionally choose.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So then I'm good. I go my own way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, the flesh can only go one way. Satan loves that for he himself is of the
>>>>>> flesh..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Since god created satan, god is responsible for satan's actions.
>>>>
>>>>Could be, but that doesn't excuse you from being responsible for your own
>>>>actions.
>>>
>>>Says the proudly racist fool.
>>
>>Has nothing to do with your responsibility for your own actions.

>It has a lot to do with whether I will listen to your religious claims.

I've done a good job laying it out for you. You won't listen. So be it.

>You have shown me that you reject what Jesus taught while, at the same
>time, trying to preach your version of Christianity.

You don't understand either.

> There is no valid
>reason for me to accept your preaching when you show us that you reject
>it yourself.

You don't have the knowledge to judge.

[duke]

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:42:34 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

>On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:35:59 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>alt.atheism:
>
>>On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 13:00:18 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 6/2/2012 12:16 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> You just refused to listen to him like the rest of us did.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why then is god unable to have me hear him clearly.
>>>>
>>>> He allows you to refuse to hear him.
>>
>>>So then, how should I know his will as you do?
>>
>>He told us.
>>
>>John 13:34 (New International Version)
>> 34 鄭 new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you
>>must love one another.
>
>There's no evidence that any god had anything to do with the writing of
>the Bible. There are some self-serving statements within the book
>itself, but that is meaningless.

Cool.

>>>>> In your statement re-posted above, you say that it will
>>>>> be too late to change. That is you making a judgement.
>>
>>>> Nope, I'm only repeating what God said

>>>I don't believe YOU. If you're on speaking terms with god, have
>>>him send me an e-mail or text detailing his divine plan for me.

>>Just accept my post. He's already said that's the answer.
>Why don't you back up your claim with evidence?
>I guess that's tough to do when you know you have no evidence.

I already did. It's John 13:34 above.

[Free Lunch]

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:02:45 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in

You know that nothing in the Bible is evidence.

I asked for evidence. You offered religious swill. It is clear to me
that you know that you have no evidence to offer.

[saul...@cox.net]

OY VEY, SUCH LOGIC!

YOU FAIL!

Saul Levy

On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 09:13:04 -0500, Antares 531
<gordonl...@swbell.net> wrote:

>God wants you to go which ever way you volitionally choose.

[harry k]

On Jun 3, 7:33 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 21:42:35 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>

So no rebuttal to the points?

Harry K

[harry k]

On Jun 3, 7:27 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:

According to your religion I _can't_ be responsible for my own
actions. "God sees all, knows all, knows everything I will do". I
have no choice, it is all pre-ordained.

Harry K

[Andrew W]

"HVAC" <mr....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jq88tb$mq1$3...@hvac.motzarella.org

> On 5/31/2012 1:03 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>>> Again. If god is displeased with how I live, I will let
>>> HIM tell me....Not you nor anyone else.
>>
>> Oh, he'll tell you, for sure. But, by that time, it's too late to
>> change.
>
>
> Then the game is rigged and god sucks dick.
>
>
>

> How do you like me now, Duke?
>

Would it make you feel good if he told you that he loves you or that he
hates you?
Just curious.


--
If you find from your own experience that something is a fact and it
contradicts what some authority has written down, then you must abandon
the authority and base your reasoning on your own findings. ~Leonardo
da Vinci

Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory. ~Leonardo da Vinci

[Andrew W]

"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:0veks7p5pkurjtbfc...@4ax.com

> On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:08:27 -0700, Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of
> the Other of the Borg <six-...@borgcollective.gov> wrote:
>
>> In article <d9rhs7l2vn0u111bj...@4ax.com>,
>> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not our judge.
>>
>> I already know that.
>
> God is that.
>

Only a person with a judgemental and prejudicial nature chooses to worship a
judgemental type god.

[HVAC]

On 6/4/2012 2:10 AM, Andrew W wrote:
>
>>>> Again. If god is displeased with how I live, I will let
>>>> HIM tell me....Not you nor anyone else.
>>>
>>> Oh, he'll tell you, for sure. But, by that time, it's too late to
>>> change.
>>
>>
>> Then the game is rigged and god sucks dick.
>>
>> How do you like me now, Duke?
>>
>
> Would it make you feel good if he told you that he loves you or that he
> hates you?
> Just curious.

I already know that Duke loves me.







--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

[HVAC]

On 6/4/2012 2:12 AM, Andrew W wrote:
>
>>>
>>>> I'm not our judge.
>>>
>>> I already know that.
>>
>> God is that.
>>
>
> Only a person with a judgemental and prejudicial nature chooses to worship a
> judgemental type god.

So you're saying that Duke is 'judgmental'? Thanks, Captain Obvious.

[Andrew W]

"HVAC" <mr....@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:jqi82i$hsf$4...@hvac.motzarella.org

> On 6/4/2012 2:12 AM, Andrew W wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not our judge.
>>>>
>>>> I already know that.
>>>
>>> God is that.
>>>
>>
>> Only a person with a judgemental and prejudicial nature chooses to
>> worship a judgemental type god.
>
>
> So you're saying that Duke is 'judgmental'? Thanks, Captain Obvious.
>

Its not obvious to him.

[Andrew W]

"HVAC" <mr....@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:jqi6lf$cqu$1...@hvac.motzarella.org

> On 6/4/2012 2:10 AM, Andrew W wrote:
>>
>>>>> Again. If god is displeased with how I live, I will let
>>>>> HIM tell me....Not you nor anyone else.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, he'll tell you, for sure. But, by that time, it's too late to
>>>> change.
>>>
>>>
>>> Then the game is rigged and god sucks dick.
>>>
>>> How do you like me now, Duke?
>>>
>>
>> Would it make you feel good if he told you that he loves you or that
>> he hates you?
>> Just curious.
>
>
> I already know that Duke loves me.
>

Chortle!

[harry k]

But is he coveting your ass?

Harry K

[HVAC]

On 6/4/2012 11:12 AM, harry k wrote:
>
>> I already know that Duke loves me.
>>
>> --
>>
>

> But is he coveting your ass?

Well, rumor has it that Duke embraces the love that dares not speak it's
name.


Besides, if the Green Lantern is gay, all bets are off.

[duke]

On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:12:32 +1000, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:

>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:0veks7p5pkurjtbfc...@4ax.com
>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:08:27 -0700, Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of
>> the Other of the Borg <six-...@borgcollective.gov> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <d9rhs7l2vn0u111bj...@4ax.com>,
>>> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm not our judge.
>>>
>>> I already know that.
>>
>> God is that.

>Only a person with a judgemental and prejudicial nature chooses to worship a
>judgemental type god.

Wow, you just tried to judge both God and I.

[duke]

On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 22:55:11 +1000, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:

>"HVAC" <mr....@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:jqi82i$hsf$4...@hvac.motzarella.org
>> On 6/4/2012 2:12 AM, Andrew W wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not our judge.
>>>>>
>>>>> I already know that.
>>>>
>>>> God is that.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Only a person with a judgemental and prejudicial nature chooses to
>>> worship a judgemental type god.
>>
>>
>> So you're saying that Duke is 'judgmental'? Thanks, Captain Obvious.

>Its not obvious to him.

I can't be judgmental. I must observe according to God, but the penalty phase
comes in the judgment and that's not in my charter.

[duke]

On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 21:21:52 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnk...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Jun 3, 7:33�am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 21:42:35 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:

>> >On Jun 2, 10:51�am, Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:56:58 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >On 6/2/2012 12:19 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>> >> >>>> God wants you to go which ever way you volitionally choose.
>>
>> >> >>> So then I'm good. �I go my own way.
>>
>> >> >> Yep, the flesh can only go one way. �Satan loves that for he himself is of the
>> >> >> flesh..
>>
>> >> >Since god created satan, god is responsible for satan's actions.
>>
>> >> God's creation was absolutely complete...including everything. Had it
>> >> been less than complete it could never be perfect. This being so, evil
>> >> had to be included. God is now in the process of separating good from
>> >> evil. Once this separation process has been completed the two realms
>> >> will be eternally separated and no interaction between the two will
>> >> ever be possible. Which side of that portal do you want to be on?
>>
>> >> Gordon
>> >Just how many times has he seperated the good and evil...and failed
>> > every time?
>>
>> Au contraire. �Some of us are working hard to get ourselves on the right side.
>>
>> Now, if you don't care which side you end up on, you'll likely find yourself on
>> the one that makes you think you made a mistake.

Ducked that one, didn't you.

>> > �Not a good advertisement for an "all powerful god".

>>
>> Hey, foolish people like you don't listen anyway.
>>
>> >It also shows he is incapable of learning...and that he isn't very bright
>> >since as an '"all knowwin god" he knew he would fail every time.
>>
>> >Harry K

>So no rebuttal to the points?
>Harry K

You're the one ducking, not me.

[duke]

On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 21:24:05 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnk...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Jun 3, 7:27�am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:56:58 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On 6/2/2012 12:19 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>> >>>> God wants you to go which ever way you volitionally choose.
>>
>> >>> So then I'm good. �I go my own way.
>>
>> >> Yep, the flesh can only go one way. �Satan loves that for he himself is of the
>> >> flesh..
>>
>> >Since god created satan, god is responsible for satan's actions.
>>
>> Could be, but that doesn't excuse you from being responsible for your own
>> actions.

>According to your religion I _can't_ be responsible for my own
>actions. "God sees all, knows all, knows everything I will do". I
>have no choice, it is all pre-ordained.

Well, then he knows how you will turn out because you didn't care.

>Harry K

[duke]

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:19:44 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

>On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:02:45 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>alt.atheism:
>
>>On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:42:34 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:35:59 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>>>alt.atheism:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 13:00:18 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 6/2/2012 12:16 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You just refused to listen to him like the rest of us did.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why then is god unable to have me hear him clearly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He allows you to refuse to hear him.
>>>>
>>>>>So then, how should I know his will as you do?
>>>>
>>>>He told us.
>>>>
>>>>John 13:34 (New International Version)

>>>> 34 �A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you

>>>>must love one another.
>>>
>>>There's no evidence that any god had anything to do with the writing of
>>>the Bible. There are some self-serving statements within the book
>>>itself, but that is meaningless.
>>
>>Cool.
>>
>>>>>>> In your statement re-posted above, you say that it will
>>>>>>> be too late to change. That is you making a judgement.
>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, I'm only repeating what God said
>>
>>>>>I don't believe YOU. If you're on speaking terms with god, have
>>>>>him send me an e-mail or text detailing his divine plan for me.
>>
>>>>Just accept my post. He's already said that's the answer.
>>>Why don't you back up your claim with evidence?
>>>I guess that's tough to do when you know you have no evidence.
>>
>>I already did. It's John 13:34 above.

>You know that nothing in the Bible is evidence.

God responds in his way, not yours. We all got the memo. Why didn't you.

>I asked for evidence. You offered religious swill. It is clear to me
>that you know that you have no evidence to offer.

We know history because of what was written/revealed before.

[HVAC]

On 6/4/2012 4:03 PM, duke wrote:
>
> I can't be judgmental.

Then you better put on a short sleeved shirt, Duke. You're gonna burn!

[Antares 531]

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 01:13:47 -0400, Olrik <olri...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Le 2012-06-03 00:42, harry k a écrit :
>> On Jun 2, 10:51 am, Antares 531<gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote:

>>> On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:56:58 -0400, HVAC<mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 6/2/2012 12:19 PM, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> God wants you to go which ever way you volitionally choose.
>>>
>>>>>> So then I'm good. I go my own way.
>>>
>>>>> Yep, the flesh can only go one way. Satan loves that for he himself is of the
>>>>> flesh..
>>>
>>>> Since god created satan, god is responsible for satan's actions.
>>>

>>> God's creation was absolutely complete...including everything. Had it
>>> been less than complete it could never be perfect. This being so, evil
>>> had to be included. God is now in the process of separating good from
>>> evil. Once this separation process has been completed the two realms
>>> will be eternally separated and no interaction between the two will
>>> ever be possible. Which side of that portal do you want to be on?
>>>
>>> Gordon
>>
>> Just how many times has he seperated the good and evil...and failed

>> every time? Not a good advertisement for an "all powerful god". It

>> also shows he is incapable of learning...and that he isn't very bright
>> since as an '"all knowwin god" he knew he would fail every time.
>>
>> Harry K
>

>:-)
>
>The «god» of the xians would be a complete failure in real life.
<
Your error in this assessment seems to be the result of having tried
to fit God into our time frame. God operates outside our tine frame
and it is beyond our mental ability for us to understand this,
completely. But, one thing we do understand is that God can not be
restrained or otherwise fitted into the limitations of the time frame
we are able to perceive. Gordon

[saul...@cox.net]

I JUDGE BOTH THE SAME, duke!

SHIT-HOUSE RAT INSANE!

Saul Levy

[saul...@cox.net]

THE MEMO IN YOUR HEAD, duke?

BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I DIDN'T GET ONE!

Saul Levy

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:06:55 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>God responds in his way, not yours. We all got the memo. Why didn't you.
>
>

[Smiler]

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:01:44 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:12:32 +1000, "Andrew W"
> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:0veks7p5pkurjtbfc...@4ax.com
>>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:08:27 -0700, Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of
>>> the Other of the Borg <six-...@borgcollective.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <d9rhs7l2vn0u111bj...@4ax.com>, duke
>>>> <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not our judge.
>>>>
>>>> I already know that.
>>>
>>> God is that.
>
>>Only a person with a judgemental and prejudicial nature chooses to
>>worship a judgemental type god.
>
> Wow, you just tried to judge both God and I.

Not a try. He did judge both your supposed god and you. You have both been
found to be failures. NB, judgement isn't against the non-existent dogma
of atheism unlike the dogma of your religion.

> duke - American error

--
Smiler,

The godless one. a.a.# 2279

All gods are tailored to order. They're made to

exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.

[Smiler]

Then your supposed god cannot interact with this time frame. Almost as if
it didn't exist.

[Smiler]

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:06:55 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:19:44 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:02:45 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>>alt.atheism:
>>
>>>On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:42:34 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:35:59 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>>>>alt.atheism:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 13:00:18 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 6/2/2012 12:16 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You just refused to listen to him like the rest of us did.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why then is god unable to have me hear him clearly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He allows you to refuse to hear him.
>>>>>
>>>>>>So then, how should I know his will as you do?
>>>>>
>>>>>He told us.
>>>>>
>>>>>John 13:34 (New International Version)

>>>>> 34 鄭 new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved

>>>>> you, so you
>>>>>must love one another.
>>>>
>>>>There's no evidence that any god had anything to do with the writing of
>>>>the Bible. There are some self-serving statements within the book
>>>>itself, but that is meaningless.
>>>
>>>Cool.
>>>
>>>>>>>> In your statement re-posted above, you say that it will be too
>>>>>>>> late to change. That is you making a judgement.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, I'm only repeating what God said
>>>
>>>>>>I don't believe YOU. If you're on speaking terms with god, have him
>>>>>>send me an e-mail or text detailing his divine plan for me.
>>>
>>>>>Just accept my post. He's already said that's the answer.
>>>>Why don't you back up your claim with evidence? I guess that's tough to
>>>>do when you know you have no evidence.
>>>
>>>I already did. It's John 13:34 above.
>
>>You know that nothing in the Bible is evidence.
>
> God responds in his way, not yours. We all got the memo. Why didn't you.
>
>>I asked for evidence. You offered religious swill. It is clear to me that
>>you know that you have no evidence to offer.
>
> We know history because of what was written/revealed before.

You know nothing because of what was written/revealed before. It's just
your unevidenced belief.

> duke - American error

[Antares 531]

On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:44:05 +0100, Smiler <Youm...@JoeKing.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 16:15:02 -0500, Antares 531 wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 01:13:47 -0400, Olrik <olri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>

>>>Le 2012-06-03 00:42, harry k a �crit :

God does interact with this time frame but He is by no means
restricted to this time frame, as we are. This makes it very difficult
or even impossible for us to understand more than a shadow of what God
is and what He is doing.

For a very simplistic analogy, think of a flatlander on a two
dimensional space who observed you put your finger through that two
dimensional space. The flatlander would perceive your finger as a
circle but obviously there is more to your finger and to your self
than that circle the flatlander is able to perceive.

Now if we extend this to include the flatlander's time frame and your
own separate time frame the flatlander is really going to have a hard
time getting things all figured out.

You'd better just pass any guideline information along to the
flatlander in a flatland based parable...allegory...simile...etc.,
format that they could at least comprehend well enough to get the
intended guidelines. Don't expect the flatlander to understand the
whole scenario. Gordon

[Andrew W]

"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message

news:hr4qs7pp2511slefi...@4ax.com

> On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:12:32 +1000, "Andrew W"
> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>> "duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:0veks7p5pkurjtbfc...@4ax.com
>>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:08:27 -0700, Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen
>>> of the Other of the Borg <six-...@borgcollective.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <d9rhs7l2vn0u111bj...@4ax.com>,
>>>> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not our judge.
>>>>
>>>> I already know that.
>>>
>>> God is that.
>
>> Only a person with a judgemental and prejudicial nature chooses to
>> worship a judgemental type god.
>
> Wow, you just tried to judge both God and I.
>

It was an assessment and observation.
I didn't say you were directly guilty of anything and deserve punishment.

[Free Lunch]

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:06:55 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in

alt.atheism:

>On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:19:44 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:02:45 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>>alt.atheism:
>>
>>>On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:42:34 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:35:59 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>>>>alt.atheism:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 13:00:18 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 6/2/2012 12:16 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You just refused to listen to him like the rest of us did.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why then is god unable to have me hear him clearly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He allows you to refuse to hear him.
>>>>>
>>>>>>So then, how should I know his will as you do?
>>>>>
>>>>>He told us.
>>>>>
>>>>>John 13:34 (New International Version)

>>>>> 34 鄭 new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you

>>>>>must love one another.
>>>>
>>>>There's no evidence that any god had anything to do with the writing of
>>>>the Bible. There are some self-serving statements within the book
>>>>itself, but that is meaningless.
>>>
>>>Cool.
>>>
>>>>>>>> In your statement re-posted above, you say that it will
>>>>>>>> be too late to change. That is you making a judgement.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, I'm only repeating what God said
>>>
>>>>>>I don't believe YOU. If you're on speaking terms with god, have
>>>>>>him send me an e-mail or text detailing his divine plan for me.
>>>
>>>>>Just accept my post. He's already said that's the answer.
>>>>Why don't you back up your claim with evidence?
>>>>I guess that's tough to do when you know you have no evidence.
>>>
>>>I already did. It's John 13:34 above.
>
>>You know that nothing in the Bible is evidence.
>
>God responds in his way, not yours. We all got the memo. Why didn't you.

Because you preach an evil god. If God actually exists in the way you
claim, He is totally unworthy of any respect or worship. He is evil.

>>I asked for evidence. You offered religious swill. It is clear to me
>>that you know that you have no evidence to offer.
>
>We know history because of what was written/revealed before.

Nope.

[Olrik]

Le 2012-06-04 17:15, Antares 531 a �crit :

> On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 01:13:47 -0400, Olrik<olri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>

>> Le 2012-06-03 00:42, harry k a �crit :

You're very good with assertions, but very poor with evidence.

[harry k]

On Jun 4, 1:05 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 21:24:05 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>

Absolutely brilliant post there, moron.

That is my whole point. According to your religion he _does_ know
that and therefore I hiave no control over it, no "free will".

Thanks for agreeing with me!!

Harry K

[harry k]

On Jun 4, 1:04 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 21:21:52 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>

If you aren't ducking, address the the points I made.

Harry K

[duke]

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:03:34 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 6/4/2012 4:03 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>> I can't be judgmental.

>Then you better put on a short sleeved shirt, Duke. You're gonna burn!

Now that makes no sense, but you never do anyway.

[duke]

On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:42:10 +0100, Smiler <Youm...@JoeKing.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:01:44 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:12:32 +1000, "Andrew W"
>> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:0veks7p5pkurjtbfc...@4ax.com
>>>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:08:27 -0700, Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of
>>>> the Other of the Borg <six-...@borgcollective.gov> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <d9rhs7l2vn0u111bj...@4ax.com>, duke
>>>>> <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not our judge.
>>>>>
>>>>> I already know that.
>>>>
>>>> God is that.
>>
>>>Only a person with a judgemental and prejudicial nature chooses to
>>>worship a judgemental type god.
>>
>> Wow, you just tried to judge both God and I.
>
>Not a try. He did judge both your supposed god and you.

Thank God I'm on his side.

> You have both been
>found to be failures. NB, judgement isn't against the non-existent dogma
>of atheism unlike the dogma of your religion.

[duke]

On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 21:32:49 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnk...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>If you aren't ducking, address the the points I made.
>Harry K

I already did.

[duke]

On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 21:36:57 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnk...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Jun 4, 1:05�pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 21:24:05 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Jun 3, 7:27 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:56:58 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >On 6/2/2012 12:19 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>> >> >>>> God wants you to go which ever way you volitionally choose.
>>
>> >> >>> So then I'm good. I go my own way.
>>
>> >> >> Yep, the flesh can only go one way. Satan loves that for he himself is of the
>> >> >> flesh..
>>
>> >> >Since god created satan, god is responsible for satan's actions.
>>
>> >> Could be, but that doesn't excuse you from being responsible for your own
>> >> actions.
>> >According to your religion I _can't_ be responsible for my own
>> >actions. �"God sees all, knows all, knows everything I will do". �I
>> >have no choice, it is all pre-ordained.
>>
>> Well, then he knows how you will turn out because you didn't care.

>Absolutely brilliant post there, moron.

Thank you.

>That is my whole point. According to your religion he _does_ know
>that and therefore I hiave no control over it, no "free will".

No. Free will means he lets you make your final massive mistake on your own
decision. He just sees it coming.

[duke]

All history is pretty much based on what others observed.

[HVAC]

On 6/5/2012 12:40 PM, duke wrote:
>
>>> No, I'm serious.
>>
>> So are we. Seek immediate psychiatric treatment.
>
> Then may God judge us each at the moment we die.


Good enough...Until then, shut the fuck up.

[HVAC]

On 6/5/2012 12:42 PM, duke wrote:
>
>>> I can't be judgmental.
>
>> Then you better put on a short sleeved shirt, Duke. You're gonna burn!
>
> Now that makes no sense, but you never do anyway.

Apology accepted.

[Rod]

On 6/5/2012 11:45 AM, duke wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:47:42 +0100, Smiler<Youm...@JoeKing.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:06:55 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:19:44 -0500, Free Lunch<lu...@nofreelunch.us>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:02:45 -0500, duke<duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>>>> alt.atheism:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:42:34 -0500, Free Lunch<lu...@nofreelunch.us>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:35:59 -0500, duke<duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>>>>>> alt.atheism:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 13:00:18 -0400, HVAC<mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/2/2012 12:16 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You just refused to listen to him like the rest of us did.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why then is god unable to have me hear him clearly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He allows you to refuse to hear him.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So then, how should I know his will as you do?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He told us.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John 13:34 (New International Version)

>>>>>>> 34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved

>>>>>>> you, so you
>>>>>>> must love one another.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's no evidence that any god had anything to do with the writing of
>>>>>> the Bible. There are some self-serving statements within the book
>>>>>> itself, but that is meaningless.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cool.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In your statement re-posted above, you say that it will be too
>>>>>>>>>> late to change. That is you making a judgement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nope, I'm only repeating what God said
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't believe YOU. If you're on speaking terms with god, have him
>>>>>>>> send me an e-mail or text detailing his divine plan for me.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just accept my post. He's already said that's the answer.
>>>>>> Why don't you back up your claim with evidence? I guess that's tough to
>>>>>> do when you know you have no evidence.
>>>>>
>>>>> I already did. It's John 13:34 above.
>>>
>>>> You know that nothing in the Bible is evidence.
>>>
>>> God responds in his way, not yours. We all got the memo. Why didn't you.
>>>
>>>> I asked for evidence. You offered religious swill. It is clear to me that
>>>> you know that you have no evidence to offer.
>>>
>>> We know history because of what was written/revealed before.
>>
>> You know nothing because of what was written/revealed before. It's just
>> your unevidenced belief.
>
> All history is pretty much based on what others observed.

History is written from a one sided perspective, it never has
spoken all the truth as it happened. History can be as much of
a liar as those who have written it...

[Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Other of the Borg]

In article <jqlfrm$56i$1...@dont-email.me>, Rod <nhra...@gmail.com> wrote:

> History is written from a one sided perspective, it never has
> spoken all the truth as it happened. History can be as much of
> a liar as those who have written it...

Okay, that's the usual excuse for ignorance. It doesn't explain how we learn
about the other side.

History isn't a collection of possibly biassed documents. It's a study of the
documents, inscriptions, graffitti, etc to best detect and correct biasses,
presenting the facts as best determined. Where possible it is combined with
archaelogy.

--
Aren't you special. Tell me your problems.

[duke]

On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 12:57:35 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 6/5/2012 12:42 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>>>> I can't be judgmental.
>>
>>> Then you better put on a short sleeved shirt, Duke. You're gonna burn!
>>
>> Now that makes no sense, but you never do anyway.

>Apology accepted.

Well, if it flops your mop, go for it.

[duke]

When 2 or more are gathered in the name of Jesus, he is with them.

[duke]

On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 12:56:47 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 6/5/2012 12:40 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>>>> No, I'm serious.
>>>
>>> So are we. Seek immediate psychiatric treatment.
>>
>> Then may God judge us each at the moment we die.

>Good enough...Until then, shut the fuck up.

If I continue to work on you, maybe you can save yourself. Looking forward to
it.

[Rod]

On 6/5/2012 4:23 PM, Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Other of the

Borg wrote:
> In article<jqlfrm$56i$1...@dont-email.me>, Rod<nhra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> History is written from a one sided perspective, it never has
>> spoken all the truth as it happened. History can be as much of
>> a liar as those who have written it...
>
> Okay, that's the usual excuse for ignorance. It doesn't explain how we learn
> about the other side.

it wasn't meant to. it was intended to point out the one sidedness
of certain individuals who have been in control.

[Rod]

And what would you suggest that i do with this statement ?

[Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Other of the Borg]

So we have no idea what Carthage was thinking?

[Smiler]

If you're so sure of that, then you must be able to show evidence of it.
Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.

> This makes it very difficult or even
> impossible for us to understand more than a shadow of what God is and what
> He is doing.

Except those like you, the demented, who seem to know what this supposed
god wants, but can never show us that it exists.

<snip stupid babble>

[Smiler]

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 23:27:15 -0400, Olrik wrote:

> Le 2012-06-04 17:15, Antares 531 a écrit :
>> On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 01:13:47 -0400, Olrik<olri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>

He has none!

[Smiler]

File under 'stupid unevidenced beliefs'.

[Seth lePod]

On Jun 5, 9:42 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:42:10 +0100, Smiler <Youmus...@JoeKing.com> wrote:
> >On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:01:44 -0500, duke wrote:
>
> >> On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:12:32 +1000, "Andrew W"

> >> <remove_ajwer...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> >>>"duke" <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote in message

> >>>news:0veks7p5pkurjtbfc...@4ax.com
> >>>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:08:27 -0700, Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of

> >>>> the Other of the Borg <six-n...@borgcollective.gov> wrote:
>
> >>>>> In article <d9rhs7l2vn0u111bj2dojtdo8kffj5l...@4ax.com>, duke

> >>>>> <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> I'm not our judge.
>
> >>>>> I already know that.
>
> >>>> God is that.
>
> >>>Only a person with a judgemental and prejudicial nature chooses to
> >>>worship a judgemental type god.
>
>


:
> >> Wow, you just tried to judge both God and I.

:
> >Not a try. He did judge both your supposed god and you.

:
> Thank God I'm on his side.

Which of his sides?


When the Son of man shall come in his glory,
and all the holy angels with him, then shall
he sit upon the throne of his glory:

And before him shall be gathered all nations:
and he shall separate them one from another,
as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the
goats:

And he shall set the sheep on his right hand,
but the goats on the left.

Then shall the King say unto them on his right
hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit
the kingdom prepared for you from the
foundation of the world:

For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I
was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a
stranger, and ye took me in:

Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye
visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto
me.

Then shall the righteous answer him, saying,
Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed
thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in?
or naked, and clothed thee?

Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and
came unto thee?

And the King shall answer and say unto them,
Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have
done it unto one of the least of these my
brethren, ye have done it unto me.

Then shall he say also unto them on the left
hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into
everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and
his angels:

For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat:
I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

I was a stranger, and ye took me not in:
naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in
prison, and ye visited me not.

Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord,
when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a
stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and
did not minister unto thee?

Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I
say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one
of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

And these shall go away into everlasting
punishment: but the righteous into life
eternal.


Seth

[Rod]

On 6/5/2012 6:10 PM, Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Other of the
Borg wrote:

There is no we in I.

[HVAC]

On 6/5/2012 5:27 PM, duke wrote:
>
>>> Then may God judge us each at the moment we die.
>
>> Good enough...Until then, shut the fuck up.
>
> If I continue to work on you, maybe you can save yourself.

Save myself from what?

[HVAC]

On 6/5/2012 5:26 PM, duke wrote:
>
>
> When 2 or more are gathered in the name of Jesus, he is with them.

So Jesus shuns those who are stranded and all alone?
Nice fucking guy.

[duke]

On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 06:28:40 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 6/5/2012 5:27 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>>>> Then may God judge us each at the moment we die.
>>
>>> Good enough...Until then, shut the fuck up.
>>
>> If I continue to work on you, maybe you can save yourself.
>
>
>Save myself from what?

the fires of hell.