VOTE! Kooks of the Year, 2006
Teh Secretary to Teh Imperial Court of MEOW
this ballot, you will find Outer Filth, scam artists, egomaniacs,
paranoid conspiracy freaks, homophobes, misogynists (and the odd female
defender of misogyny), racists, pedophiles (and pedophile
apologists/defenders), men and women on Missions Against Evil, several
living "Christs", stalkers, mad scientists, and all kinds of k00ks.
Three sites are up for the RichBull, including Dean Roger "teslacoils"
Ray's, Jeff_Relf's, and Andrew B. "God told me to" Chung's, and anyone
who is not familiar with those names should have a look at their sites.
Please take careful note of the qualifications for voting, BTW, unless
you kindly wish to provide litter filler for Fluffy's box.
All Hail Fluffy! On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:38:58 +0000, Friendly
Neighborhood Vote Wrangler whined:
> Here follows the one true ballot for the 2006 Usenet Kook of the Year
> awards. Anybody may vote, but your votes may be disqualified, mocked,
> burnt, shredded and/or recycled for use as toilet paper or filler for
> Fluffy's litter box at the Vote Wrangler's discretion if:
>
> * you are a notorious net.kook
> * you attempt to vote twice
> * you vote anonymously or with an unidentifiable sockpuppet
> * you vote for or against yourself
> * you vote in a thread other than this one
> * you vote in a newsgroup other than AUK without crossposting to AUK
> * you follow up to an incomplete or altered version of the ballot
> * you have explicitly been disenfranchised by the Vote Wrangler
> * you have officially been declared non-existent
>
> Crossposting the complete, unaltered ballot is permitted. You have until
> 23:59:59 (11:59:59 PM) UTC on January 15th to cast your votes. Vote
> wisely; next time the candidate might be *you*. - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
> ROOKIE KOOK OF THE YEAR (Vote for one.)
>
> Andrew B. Chung
> Antonio "Jabriol" Santana
> Catherine Burr
> Daniel Joseph Min
> Daryl Hunt
> Dustin Cook
> Honest John
> Robert "Mop Jockey" Wolfe
> Saucerheads of alt.astronomy
> Tim Bolen
> Viking of soc.men
>
> KOOK OF THE YEAR (Vote for one.)
>
> Aaron R Kulkis
> Adam Weishaupt IX
> Albert Silverman
> Alexa Cameron
> Andrew B. Chung
> Andrew Walcott Beckwith
> Antonio "Jabriol" Santana
> Archimedes Plutonium
> Ari Lindemann
> Average Joe
> Azure
> Barbara Schwarz
> Bert Hoff
> BigNetBuy
> Bob Allisat
> Brad Guth
> Bradley L Jesness
> Bruce Daniel Kettler
> Bruce M Lloyd
> Catherine Burr
> Celeste
> Charles D Bohne
> Chive Mynde
> Chuck Lysaght
> Clannish Warlords of soc.culture.scottish Colin James III Daniel Joseph
> Min
> Daryl Hunt
> David Tholen
> Dean Humphries
> Diana L Napolis
> Dmitri Vulis
> Doctress Neutopia
> Don MacDonald
> Dore Williamson
> Douglas Grant
> Dustin Cook
> Earl Gordon Curley
> Ed Conrad
> Edmond Heinz Wollmann
> Edvin Augusts
> Emmett Earl Gulley
> EQ
> Erik Mouse
> Flagship1 of the Paranormal
> FreeSpeechStore
> George Hammond
> Gerald Newton
> Helena Kobrin
> Herc
> Honest John
> Hoofprints
> Hugh Jeffcoat
> Humanitas
> Jai Maharaj
> James Ogle
> Jason Kodish
> Jean-Paul Turcaud
> Jeffery Douglas Hunt
> Jerry M Kolnick
> Jim Collier
> Joan L Brewer
> Joe1orbit
> Joe Baptista
> Joe Bruno
> John Lauzon
> John Martin Grubor
> John Turmel
> Joseph Bartlo
> Karl Denninger
> Ken Sandberg
> Kenneth R Pangborn
> Koos Nolst Trenite
> Lester Chow
> Linda Gore
> Lisa Agnes Gardner
> Mark Line
> MarsRules
> Martin J Hannigan
> Matt Giwer
> Mike Vandeman
> Neal of APDD
> Onideus Mad Hatter
> P Z Myers
> Pamela K Russell
> Pete Stapleton
> Peter Nathan Haas
> Pierre Savoie
> Pietro Sommavilla
> Ray Gordon
> Raymond Ronald Karczewski
> Richard S Bullis
> Richard Schiller
> Rick Sobie
> Robert E McElwaine
> Robert "Mop Jockey" Wolfe
> Romath
> Russell B Waters
> Saucerheads of alt.astronomy
> Scott A Gilbert
> Scott Bradbury
> soc.men
> Sollog
> Stanley Broskey
> Stephen Boursy
> Stephen P Vanier
> Steve Chaney
> Steve Young
> Steven Ray Winter
> Sylvia Sullivan
> Terry Ortman
> Thomas K Odell
> Tim Bolen
> Tim Brown
> Tim Thorne
> Tom Bishop
> Tony Sidaway
> TOR
> Trollzilla
> Twonky
> Uni & ArtistMike
> Usenet Y2K Paranoids
> Vegas Luna
> Viking of soc.men
> Vito Kuhn
> Viv Eshwar
> Walter Kent Prescott
> Will Dockery
>
> COWARD OF THE YEAR (Vote for one.)
>
> Andre Lieven
> Andrew B. Chung
> Chuck Lysaght
> Dustin Cook
> Honest John
> Michael Baldwin Bruce
> Raymond Karczewski
> Richard Scoville
> Steve Young as Rasta Khan
>
> CLUELESS NEWBIE OF THE YEAR (Vote for one.)
>
> Azure
> Daryl Hunt
> Honest John
> Jaime Baillie
> Jill of soc.men
> Kathy Mosesian
> Ken Pangborn
> Kurt Gavin
> L. W. "Bill" Hughes III
> Lynne "Hoofprints" Lyons
> MCP of soc.men
> Viking of soc.men
>
> RICHBULL.COM MEMORIAL AWARD FOR KOOKSITE OF THE YEAR (Vote for one.)
>
> http://groups.msn.com/psycologicalwarfare
> http://www.cotse.net/users/jeffrelf/
> http://www.heartmdphd.com
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
> Fluffy thanks you for your participation!
--
________________________________________________________________________
Hail Eris! All Hail Discordia! Kallisti!
Flonk Leader #2 & #11 1/9; mhm 29 x 21
Awl Hale Teh Mity Poast Kount!
The meow.fuckhead
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cabal_of_the_Holy_Pretzel/join
Economic Left/Right: -7.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38
"And thats another mistake on your part. Your 'playing' games on usenet,
and I'm not playing...It has nothing to do with impressing you, it has
more to do with making sure you have the education you'll need to debate.
The debate is no fun for me if you are mentally incapable of it. I'm
giving you an opportunity to educate yourself. That's all." -- A trashy
former virus-writer turned Outer Filth doesn't know if he's playing or
working, in MID: <1159389579....@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>
"We are most nearly ourselves when we achieve the seriousness of the
child at play." -- Heraclitus
"All is flux, nothing stays still." -- Heraclitus
"No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river
and he's not the same man." -- Heraclitus
"Immorality: The morality of those who are having a better time." -- H.
L. Mencken
"My own opinion (even speaking as a woman) is that no more female input
should be allowed in establishing and enforcing the rules and regulations
of a MEN' group. If this is to be a haven for MEN to discuss MEN'S
issues then women shouldn't be designing the room and painting it pink
and putting up lace curtains and a lot of frilly doilies. JMO." --
Jill's impression of David Walliams' "Little Britain" character just
keeps improving, in Message-ID:
<03b5h2581gcu8r5bk...@4ax.com>
"The MORE you think, the MORE you remain UNAWARE, CONFUSED." -- Ray
"Kazoo" Karczewski, in MID: <4504807e...@news.west.earthlink.net>
"Dustin is FILTH in my opinion. And not for any reason other than posting
Rhonda's personal info." -- Respondant
"email is not a private form of communication." -- Dustin Cook, in
Message-ID: <1157484607....@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
"It would be offly hard for any of you to abuse me on usenet. Really. I
have the advantage. I could easily turn alt.usenet.kooks into a cesspool
of encoded posts. Bringing the noise ratio up so high as to make the
group worthless. Anybody who can code could do this, why nobody has
bothered before now is beyond me. The ultimate spamming engine..
'BAWAHAHA'" -- Dustbin K00k's delusions of grandeur reached new heights,
in Message-ID: <Xns98355D29419...@69.28.186.121>
Joseph Bartlo wrote:
> A big mean meanie and heavyweight kookologist responding to my text
> and making me look like a colossal idiot. No more whinges to this mean
> person who keeps pounding my ass into the ground - you go on the lits
> of people who have trounced me. The state I left that group was
> embarassing to me. There were too many posts to follow them all, and I
> know a lot of people were saying mean things about me - but a few
> sucked up. So it was best at that point rather than to browse all the
> crap to simply make a standard post telling people a lot of bullshit
> I'd just made up. I did that on many other groups, but the war is only
> fought here. If anyone thinks I am the least bit kidding, consider how
> long this has been going, how little I have accomplished (i.e., how
> much the mean, mean kookologists have changed everything), and that I
> have a lot of goats to blow.
-- in MID: <43745576...@verizon.net>
"I don't think so because, I'm a whole lot smarter and far less bigoted
than the average Jew, although smart Jews as having collaborated with
your Skull and Bones Third Reich certainly have more of those
in-your-face balls than I'd ever have to work with." -- Guthball drools
all over my irony meter, in MID:
<fea985f50107c84f4d1...@mygate.mailgate.org>
"I am a loyal friend to those who report science and truth not
try to hidden agenda hide it. Astronomy is so important little do the
clueless know where they came from or where they are going. The Officer
Warhol reporting of Little Goldilocks and the Tree Bears was so relaxing
but heed its moral warning blondes do have more fun. The Seans Sil a
beauty like no other waits for this Earthman to hopefully safely real
Starship bring all those worthy to space the final frontier. Choose life
not war, oh the humanity, when will man lay down his arms? Thank you
Green Knight for your dedication to duty and God speed on your journey
to the sacred mountain. Figs and olives the preservers of life and
promoters of good digestion. You darn tooten we like fig Newton.
Att: All Earth Science Team Officers
Officer Warhol has issued a world wide bulletin for all coastal residing
residents to go to higher ground due to planet warming. The increasing
planetary green house effect is scientifically now observed. The Green
Knight predicted dooms day long cycle comet may also be approaching,
take heed! Also Florida residents listen for daily reports from Officer
Bert and please be aware of hurricane Debbie now gaining power off the
coast of Africa, oh the humanity!"
-- nightbat on the importance of a good diet, and always taking one's
meds, in MID: <5936a$44ec171f$46e3a618$28...@COMTECK.COM>
"Real meaning: 'Repeatedly another raw-boned lout twitters, but some
mankhead recurrently thereafter erodes the hymen. If another habitual
criminal beyond a fat cell advises some fermentation bucket, then the
show-off respecting another swamp-donkey glides. Now and then, some
jawless fusspot periphrastically disturbs a mechanic with an inchworm.
When you see another impacted tooth, it means that a bitch round a fried
egg wobbles.
The walrus squeals, and another flathead amid a ham sandwich burns;
however, a flasher charms a scabby codpiece. Another sheep with another
taco tickler wakes, and the hedgehog sees another zigzagger. When some
tatterdemalion afore the fungus is frightfully swaggering, some ruffian
reportingly starts a bank manager.
Another vegetative door-to-door salesman splashes, and a dung ball
respecting the motherfucker smiles; however, a hamster drinks a hifalutin
fowl. Another alienated zoo exhibit comes, while some depressing hose bag
finds some futtock. When you see another tonsil, it means that a cholera
germ amongst another trollop sweats. Some dizzily stony-broke wretch is
nosy. Some melancholic homo endlessly dangles some thereupon pus-filled
fumbler.'" -- Kadaitcha interprets batty's advice in a most wise and
insightful manner, in MID: <5m0ln4$znk$o...@emaciated-marshmallows.net.au>
"I am not a pornographer. I don't even own a pornograph."
-- ersatz Jabriol
> A Christian is a citizen of Christ Jesus' kingdom just as an American is
> a citizen of the United States.
Whatever you've been smoking, it's making you spew great lines for a
"Cheech and Chung" movie.
-- Chadwick Stone to Andrew B., in MID:
<f98Hg.249738$bN2....@fe09.news.easynews.com>
Double-A
The Secretary of HomIntern
> Teh Secretary to Teh Imperial Court of MEOW wrote:
>> Here it is, the big one, the Main Event! Among the many candidates on
>> this ballot, you will find Outer Filth, scam artists, egomaniacs,
>> paranoid conspiracy freaks, homophobes, misogynists (and the odd female
>> defender of misogyny), racists, pedophiles (and pedophile
>> apologists/defenders), men and women on Missions Against Evil, several
>> living "Christs", stalkers, mad scientists, and all kinds of k00ks.
>> Three sites are up for the RichBull, including Dean Roger "teslacoils"
>> Ray's, Jeff_Relf's, and Andrew B. "God told me to" Chung's, and anyone
>> who is not familiar with those names should have a look at their sites.
>>
>> Please take careful note of the qualifications for voting, BTW, unless
>> you kindly wish to provide litter filler for Fluffy's box.
>>
>> All Hail Fluffy! On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:38:58 +0000, Friendly
>> Neighborhood Vote Wrangler whined:
>>
>> > Here follows the one true ballot for the 2006 Usenet Kook of the Year
>> > awards. Anybody may vote, but your votes may be disqualified, mocked,
>> > burnt, shredded and/or recycled for use as toilet paper or filler for
>> > Fluffy's litter box at the Vote Wrangler's discretion if:
>> > * you are a notorious net.kook
>> > Crossposting the complete, unaltered ballot is permitted. You have
>> > until 23:59:59 (11:59:59 PM) UTC on January 15th to cast your votes.
>> > Vote wisely; next time the candidate might be *you*. - - - - - - - -
>> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> >
>> > ROOKIE KOOK OF THE YEAR (Vote for one.)
>> >
>> >
>> > KOOK OF THE YEAR (Vote for one.)
>> >
>> >
>> > COWARD OF THE YEAR (Vote for one.)
>> >
I approve of your choices, though I'm not sure you're eligible to make
them -- but it's arguable, since "the saucerheads of alt.astronomy" is
hardly explicit. However, are you really saying that you're not with
nightbat and co? They're your friends, right? They might not take too
kindly to you disavowing them just so you can vote...
--
________________________________________________________________________
Hail Eris! "The personal _is_ political."
Bent Depraved N. Deviant Cock-Smoker, Esq., Superfaggot
COOSN-029-06-71069
"Stupidity excuses nothing. It's only a reason...." -- Phxbrd
Economic Left/Right: -7.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38
"The whining has just begun." -- John Wentzky
Killfiled by: directory; Anim8rfsk
"It's not nice to misrepresent Mother Nature."
http://www.lowgenius.net/kookway.htm
TEH WAY OF THE K00K
Never learn from your mistakes.
Always practice your mistakes; you may get them right.
Always pick on those smarter and tougher than you.
Always believe that only you know the TRVTH.
Never allow logic or reason get in the way of a good k00k.
When being overwhelmed by logic and reason: k00ksuit!
If you are going to be wrong, do it at the top of your lungs.
When caught in a lie: LIE!
When in doubt: Order the Crab Won Ton
Plagiarism is your friend. Use it.
Whenever contradicted; morph, start calling people names, and make false
accusations. Include the children of your target in your allegations,
even if they don't have any.
(06-Jun-05) When nobody else will listen, post to your own fan group.
(06-Jun-05) Obviously, since you have your own fan group, this must mean
that you have fans. Post prolifically to your fan group - you wouldn't
want to disappoint them!
(10-May-2005)Everyone reads usenet. Approval here means approval
everywhere.
Post numerous blank posts, or posts containing only a message id.
Post numerous copy&paste web articles from crackerpot websites.
Never forget to call kookologists "k00ks."
If there are several, call them "sockpuppets" too
When all else fails, accuse various and sundry kookologists of e-mailing
viruses to you. This is a sure-fire method of garnering sympathy and
ensuring that the General Public will always see things your way. An
especially effective sub-strategy here is to accuse them of infecting
you with the 'Sasser' worm via e-mail.
Quote notorious scientists or writers - it makes it look as if they
approve the drivel you are writing!
(9-Jul-05) Anytime your computer is infected with a virus, bogged down
by spyware, attacked over your internet connection, or otherwise suffers
from preventable problems, government agencies are responsible and are
trying to silence you and are monitoring your computer files.
Ignore all traffic signs and feel free to trespass, you don't have to
obey any rules.
Scare your enemies with lawsuits, police escorts and whines.
Always back up your empty (albeit noisy) threats with phony LARTs, false
police reports, and harassing letters to the FBI and other gubbermint
agencies.
Be vigilant in your redundancy. The more you repeat yourself, the more
likely others will believe you!
If you can't find anyone as crazy as yourself to support you in the
flamewars you start with the normal population, create sock puppets and
use anonymous remailers that shamelessly hang on every word you write.
(17-Mar-05) When dealing with law enforcement, remember that it is they
who have the problem, not you. Be sure to inform them of this at every
available opportunity, as they will surely appreciate your constructive
criticism. Be sure to make them aware that YOU KNOW YOUR RIGHTS! ("The
cops like that, when people know their rights. That way they don't have
to read them to you on the way to the station." - George Carlin)
The more your fake personalities adulate you, the more respect you'll
get!
When confronted with a reality that you don't like: Announce loudly
that you are departing, never to return as long as there's an Internet.
Come back in three or four days and claim you were drunk, hacked,
abducted by alience, or forged. Alternately you can just not even
mention your prior departure, and if anyone asks you about it, either
ignore them or respond with something along the lines of "YOUR NOT THE
BOSS OF ME! *PLONK*!" People really know you mean business then.
Always remain clueproof.
(20-Mar-05) Anyone who does not believe that you are the reincarnation
of [$DEITY_OR_PROPHET] is obviously an infidel lacking in faith whose
soul in in peril of everlasting damnation.
When responding to one line challenges, post paragraphs of rants and
screed in response.
Incoherency is not a roadblock to poasting.
Neither is illiteracy.
Delusions poasted often enough become fact.
Claim you will destroy <insert newsfroup> for attacking you.
When spnaked, send cmsg for Fanboi newsfroup(s).
Find your Lame, Use your Lame, Be your Lame!
Post Edit when the TRVTH hurts.
Always sneck the offending newsfroups.
Always poast pictures of yourself so you can be admired in all your k00ky
glory.
Always accuse others of the very acts you are guilty of.
Post lots of boasts about your high IQ and incredible talents.
(20-Mar-05) If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth.
Anybody who fails to understand this is engaged in a deliberate campaign
of misinformation and character assassination.
Always <plonk> somebody just before replying the plonkee!
The k00k considers itself the most intelligent person in any
conversation, possibly on the planet. Other people are benighted and
ignorant, and have been waiting their whole lives for the k00k to rescue
them from intellectual darkness.
Write a self-published book and claim it a success. Bonus points for
comparing it to "Mein Kampf" and/or the Bible.
Declare yourself equal to a deity of your choice.
Claim that you've come from other planets.
Claim thousands of past lives.
Frothing complaints carry far more weight when you send them from
"legal@" some domain.
Nothing strikes terror into the hearts of your detractors more than
telling them that you're archiving their messages for possible use in
the future.
Never forget that everyone else posting to Usenet is a paid
disinformation agent looking to discredit you.
Usenet is governed by US law. If a poster in Romania killfiles you, he's
obviously violating your 1st Amendment rights and can be sued.
Every news admin in the world hangs out in NANAU, and they're just dying
to nuke the account of that meanyhead who just called you "fucknozzle".
Drop 'em a line - that's what they're there for, after all.
AUK will be closed down. Just you wait and see.
They've nuked hundreds of accounts in the name of free speech and
*yours* will be next.
The k00k will, without any trace of irony, lie, manipulate, impersonate,
censor, and declare themselves powerful in ways ranging from the ability
to have an account shut down to being God Herself, in order to convince
people that they are not liars, manipulators, censors, or insane.
Abuse women while telling how many hundreds you've loved. Nevermind that
you're one ugly motherfucker and that there were 30,000 femininas that
thought you were a scumbag with bad teeth.
Remember that your ko0ky klaims are 'facts', and that 'facts' do not
require proof.
Do not neglect to poast your responses to forums that the originator
doesn't read. This will make the people in that forum very impressed
with how you tear him to shreds without him being able to respond. They
like it even better if you are off-topic for that forum.
Keep in mind that lack of evidence supporting your konspiracy theory
actually _is_ evidence, of how effective the konspiracy is in hiding.
(06-Oct-05) When spanked, always retreat to the safety of the Ad
Hominem.
(04-Aug-2005) When spanked mercilessly for days on end, proving with
each poast just what an illiterate and ignorant fool you are, ALWAYS
claim ownership of [person(s),froup(s)]. This works on so many levels.
It inspires dread in your opponents that they will no longer be able to
poast in their home froup and that they will eventually have to pay
rent, to name just two.
Any problems with your poasts are the fault of the konspirators, who are
trying to stop you from preventing the extinction of humanity.
Konspiracies that are able to subvert whole governments are always unable
to silence konspiracy ko0ks.
The entire United States government is willing to spend millions of
dollars for the sole purpose of harassing you.
Hollywood is making movies based on your personal life.
Do not consult psychiatrists or other mental health professionals. They
are part of the konspiracy, and will sedate you and lock you away and
keep you drugged if you tell them the truth.
Numerology and Astrology are respectable sciences and are useful for
proving your case.
Everyone is Tim Hill, or David Green, or...
There is a fine line between trolling and kookery. Find that line and
cross it repeatedly. When you are killfiled and/or LARTed for net.abuse
as a result, claim victory. If you lose multiple accounts, this merely
proves that you are indeed a world-class troll, with a black-belt in
manipulation.
If you respond to every post someone else makes, they're obsessed. If
they respond to less than 1% of your posts, they're even more obsessed.
Publishing people's real names, addresses, and phone numbers when
there's no other way for you to come out of a flamewar with any dignity
is cool, and proves that you are a master of secret internet information
stores, and absolutely not to be fucked with.
Everyone is out to get you. You can put a stop to this by telling
everyone that they're out to get you at every available opportunity.
You are the only sane one.
Those that give you a hard time about morally bankrupt things you
yourself admit to are just persecutioners of the new inquisition.
Yelling in all caps and cursing at your detractors is debate. Your
detractors laughing at you with sarcastic remarks is obvious anger and
jealousy.
If doing something results in the loss of your account, legal hassles,
or blunt trauma injury, do it again. It always works better the second
time.
Asterisks, lots and lots of Asterisks.
Poking holes in kookscreed is stalking, and is a felony.
K00ks LOVE to "connect the dots". They are, of course, dots that only
the k00k can see.
"They laughed at Einstein, too!"
...with thanks to Aratzio, Dr. Flonkenstein, Dan Baldwin, Cujo, CJ
Osterwald, Jade, Bookman, and John Henry, of AUK. Meow. Original thread
at http://tinyurl.com/3fsho - some posts may not appear due to
x-no-archive headers. The spelling mistakes are intentional, dolt.
jitter
> jitter wrote:
>
> > In article <130120071204482606%maxth...@gmail.com>,
> > maxth...@gmail.com says...
> >> In article <xpowqgbjcsyt$vxpqkj...@127.0.0.1>, jitter
> >> <ji...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> >>
> >> > In article <130120071023076512%maxth...@gmail.com>,
> >> > maxth...@gmail.com says...
> >> > > In article <pan.2007.01.13....@smof.org>, Cardinal
> >> > > Snarky of the Fannish Inquisition <inqui...@smof.org> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 02:05:08 -0600, Max Grrl sat in thee
> >> > > > Comfee Chaire, and didst finally confess, after taking Muche
> >> > > > Tea:
> >> > > > > jitter wrote:
> >> > > > >> maxth...@gmail.com says...
> >> > > > >> > Chris Canty wrote:
> >> > > > >> > > Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:
> >> > > > >> > > > Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler wrote:
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > [Forwarded to AMM-J. Vote for Pambo for KotY!]
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > >> Here follows the one true ballot for the 2006
> >> > > > >> > > >> Usenet Kook of the Year awards. Anybody may vote,
> >> > > > >> > > >> but your votes may be disqualified, mocked, burnt,
> >> > > > >> > > >> shredded and/or recycled for use as toilet paper or
> >> > > > >> > > >> filler for Fluffy's litter box at the Vote
> >> > > > >> > > >> Wrangler's discretion if:
> >> > > > >> > > >>
> >> > > > >> > > >> * you vote anonymously or with an unidentifiable
> >> > you
> >> > > > >> > > >> vote for or against yourself
> >> > > > >> > > >> vote in a newsgroup other than AUK without
> >> > > > >> > > >> crossposting to AUK * you
> >> > follow
> >> > > > >> > > >> up to an incomplete or altered version of the
> >> > > > >> > > >> by the Vote Wrangler * you have officially been
> >> > > > >> > > >> declared non-existent
> >> > > > >> > > >>
> >> > > > >> > > >> permitted. You have until 23:59:59 (11:59:59 PM)
> >> > > > >> > > >> UTC on January 15th to cast your votes. Vote
> >> > > > >> > > >> wisely; next time the candidate might be *you*. - -
> >> > > > >> > > >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >> > > > >> > > >> - - - -
> >> > -
> >> > > > >> > > >> - - -
> >> > > > >> > > >>
> >> > > > >> > > >> ROOKIE KOOK OF THE YEAR (Vote for one.)
> >> > > > >> > > >>
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > >> KOOK OF THE YEAR (Vote for one.)
> >> > > > >> > > >>
> >> > > > >> > > >> COWARD OF THE YEAR (Vote for one.)
> >> > > > >> > > >>
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > >> CLUELESS NEWBIE OF THE YEAR (Vote for one.)
> >> > > > >> > > >>
> >> > > > >> > > >> MCP of soc.men
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > >> RICHBULL.COM MEMORIAL AWARD FOR KOOKSITE OF THE
> >> > > > >> > > >> YEAR (Vote for one.)
> >> > > > >> > > >>
> >> > > > >> > > >> http://www.heartmdphd.com
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > This page is particularly impressive:
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > http://www.heartmdphd.com/rip.asp
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > I want to be on it!!
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > Hey Chris . . . WTF's up with Pam Russell?? Sure, she
> >> > > > >> > seems a fucking
> >> > > > >> > mental fuck-knob to me, but why the fuck do these guys
> >> > > > >> > give a shit about her???? I mean, she's just a fuckwit
> >> > > > >> > from a fucking Michael
> >> > > > >> > Jackson fan froup . . . am I missing something?
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> Look where this is xposted to.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> AUK: Fuckwit Central
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Well, let's just say that I wandered in, by mistake, of
> >> > > > > course, into AUK .
> >> > > > > . . and saw this thread. Kinda piqued my curiosity, you
> >> > > > > know?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Just kinda curious how some fuckwit like her would garner
> >> > > > > the attention of
> >> > > > > such esteemed k00kologists . . . I mean, you don't just
> >> > > > > walk up to every
> >> > > > > nearby crack addicted fuck-knob and hand them an award, do
> >> > > > > you???
> >> > > > > : )
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Pam's been drunkenly frothing away since at least 2004, with
> >> > > > some quite bizarre and outlandish outbursts about the world's
> >> > > > most-famous pedophile occurring on a fairly regular basis,
> >> > > > often with little or no provocation beyond a mild prod.
> >> > >
> >> > > Ah, so of all the crack addicted fuck-knobs, she's like the
> >> > > queen. Gotcha.
> >> > >
> >> > > I just didn't see how she would come to your attention - I
> >> > > mean, I hardly see any of you guys exactly hanging out in a MJ
> >> > > froup. But then, I can't understand ANYONE hanging out in a
> >> > > fucking MJ NG . .
> >> > > . wouldn't that like, kill off brain cells?????
> >> > >
> >> > > But, as you say, she deserves an award, if not a bullet to her
> >> > > pointy lil skull. : ) But then, I guess she's enough of an
> >> > > amusement that that would be like kicking over the swingset.
> >> > >
> >> > > > Meanwhile, you are replying to one of the candidates
> >> > > > on the ballot -- Steve "BowTie" Young, who possesses a list
> >> > > > of socks even longer than his list of awards.
> >> > >
> >> > > Hmmm . . . I know him as Chris and one other nym. But I've
> >> > > known him for a while and he does great work in keeping pedos
> >> > > like Frank McCoy on the defensive.
> >> > >
> >> > > How does that qualify him for an award???
> >> > > Please pardon me for being so naive/newb and/or st00pid. : )
> >> >
> >> > "Cardinal Snarky" sees Steve Y. in every nym that he/she cannot
> >> > identify as any previously known poster, and claims to keep a
> >> > list of them.
> >> > Creepy, huh. Don't nymshift, or you'll probably wind up on the
> >> > list. I'm no shrink, but he/she seems to have some kind of
> >> > intense obsession with SY that has gotten so bad that it's
> >> > starting to cause even worse problems.
> >>
> >> Well, fuck. I nym shift - but not in the same froup. I have a
> >> uh-hem, "professional" nym and one I use for personal fun. And
> >> never the twain shall meet. In fact, my pro nym has sat unused for
> >> so long, I'm sure it's covered in dust!
> >>
> >> So does that mean I'll make the list for nym-shifting??? I mean, is
> >> what I'm doing wrong?
>
> I don't think Snarky is likely to complain if you use more than one
> From: header for Usenet. :-)
>
> >> As to SY, well, I know CC under only one other nym -
>
> The only CC I can think of is Chris Caputo, and I don't think BowTie
> is Caputo.
>
> >> and he's using
> >> the
> >> nym-shifting for a noble purpose . . . I've spoken to him
> >> "privately" but even then, he's never straight out told me his RL
> >> name, so I'm cl00less there (among other places, LOL).
> >>
> >> Thanks for the heads up! I'm still a newb, so any help I can get is
> >> mucho appreciated! : )
> >
> > Apparently, SY trolled the living shit out of AUK on several
> > occasions,
> > each time using sockpuppets that were difficult to identify as him.
>
> There's a long and honourable tradition of trolling AUK regulars. The
> very first Hook, Line and Sinker award was given to Lewis de Payne in
> 1995 for doing exactly that, and BowTie could have picked up a couple
> of HLS awards himself if he'd confined himself to trolling AUKers;
> but he's always gone too far: forgery, spamming and real-life
> harassment are the characteristics of a typical BowTie "troll".
>
> > At least that's what I get from Google and from the semi-coheremt
> > blatherings of that "snarky" person or whatever he/she calls
> > him/herself.
>
> I find Snarky's posts exceptionally coherent. However, Lionel, not
> Snarky, is the expert on BowTie. Lionel had already been familiar
> with BowTie's behaviour for a long time before AUK noticed the kook.
>
> > So now any new posters who meet a small set of vague "criteria" are
> > instantly tagged as SY socks. I guess because it's easier, and more
> > fun (for the so-called "kookologists"), to run around screeching
> > nonsense than to actually accept newcomers as such and risk getting
> > trolled again.
>
> "BowTie" has become a generic term for anybody who resembles the
> original BowTie. So if you're not BowTie and I reply to you
> with "Fuck off, BowTie", it means that I think you should reconsider
> the path you're walking.
>
> Of course, you may *be* BowTie, but I don't think BowTie would pay for
> an Octanews account, or fail to lose it for abuse within a few hours
> if he did.
>
> > Or maybe I'm right, and certain people are obsessed to the point of
> > needing help. (shrug) I decided to err on the side of caution and
> > FormosaPlonk the worst ones.
> >
> > FYI
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formosa%27s_law
>
> I'm rather proud to say that AUK is the only newgroup that attempts to
> apply Formosa's Law collectively. There are Usenet posters who have
> the kind of problems that make them easy to make fun of, but on the
> whole we leave them alone even when they're screaming for attention
> from us [tinu].
>
> > Now you know what I know about AUK vs SY. Interesting stuff.
> > Creepy in a way, but interesting.
>
> In fact, you don't know very much about BowTie, because you haven't
> been here very long. That's OK; when I started posting here I had no
> idea who Wollmann and Bullis were.
>
You know there's essentially an AUK awards loophole now, right? No
"kooks" will see it, because it's buried in some threads filled with
flaming, trolling, and general assholery, but it's been laid out for all
to find if they look.
In fact, let's lay it out right here (and lose X-No-Archive just for
this one post) to make it easier to find. It'll add to the fun. Froup
lits expanded for additional lulz.
AUK Award-Immunity Checklits
Time requirement: Plan to invest approximately 2-5 hours each day for
1-3 weeks. YMMV. But after this you're set for life, or at least for a
good goddamn long time, so the time investment might be worth it to you.
1. Nymshift so hard that your new nym can't be associated with your old
nym, even under close scrutiny. New name, new email, new sig.
Seriously consider using a different newsreader. Maybe even a different
news provider. And for fuck's sake, don't use a news provider that
sticks your IP address or FQDN in the header. You can use Google
Groups, but go through a web proxy like JAP or Tor or something.
2. Put "X-No-Archive: YES" at the top of every post from now on, or at
least for the next couple weeks.
3. Flame Onideus Mad Hatter relentlessly 5-10 times a day for a solid
week, and xpost every bit of it to AUK and his home group of alt.2600.
Add alt.flame and alt.fan.art-bell, too, just for extra lulz. Be sure
to post edit now and then, which has the same effect as throwing
gasoline on a fire (only without the 3rd-degree burns). Don't stop or
slow down for shit. Don't feel bad; OMH kinda likes the attention, and
he'll ignore you when you get tiresome.
4. Nom a "kookologist" for one of their own kook awards. Busted Urinal
is an easy one to apply to almost anyone. Don't be afraid to use lies
and post editing to reinforce your case. This will go over about as
well as serving pork chops for dinner at a mosque, so brace yourself for
all manner of flaming. Ignore it or flame back, your choice.
5. If anyone calls you "BowTie" or "Bowturd" or "Steve Young" deny it
and call them nuts. Refuse to "prove" it (you can't anyway). Imply
that the person is Steve's long lost crazy cat-hoarding girlfriend, or
something.
6. Find a kook that's engaged in a trollfest with a "kookologist" and
give the kook a little fuel and inspiration to help them out. Google is
your friend (hint, hint). Do this at least three or four times over the
course of a week or two.
7. After a couple weeks at the most, you'll be tagged as a "BowTie
sock" -- and immune from almost all AWK awards, because BowTie is immune
and so are any of his sockpuppets. Including false sockpuppets like
you. Congrats. Plonk any AUK regs that annoy you, forget them, and get
on with life.
Special thanks to Steve "BowTie" Young for trolling AUK so hard as to
induce obsessions intense enough to make this possible. Give it up for
Steve, everybody! *w00t* (and the crowd goes wild)
Art Deco
Demon Lord of Confusion
further by squeaking:
> p...@example.invalid says...
>> jitter wrote:
>> > maxth...@gmail.com says...
>> >> jitter wrote:
>> >> > maxth...@gmail.com says...
Oh, you should also be aware that, since he was Galactically Killfiled,
Stevie has still managed to win multiple awards, largely because he's an
obsessive k00k with a hard-on for many different kookologists, including
Lionel, Fred Hall, Art, Bookman, and myself, among others.
Additionally, another way to gain immunity from kook awards is to be
hate-litsed by a variety of k00ks, while displaying a sense of humour
and cluefulness. A talent for self-deprecation doesn't hurt, either
(though it doesn't help Brad Guth much, but that's mainly because his
drool is overpowering).
--
________________________________________________________________________
Hail Eris! mhm 29x21; TM#5; COOSN-029-06-71069
The God of Odd Statements, the Ugliest Pigfucker In The Universe
Stupidity Takes Its Toll. Please Have Exact Change.
"I say you are out of your fucking mind." -- Ying Guo, posting as
"SameAsB4" <exeb...@yanospamhoo.com>, tells PorchMonkey4Life, posting
as the same nick but a slightly different morph, the score, in MID:
<ka4lo.3...@news.alt.net>
"in the holy spirit i know you would satisfy every single person in a
room if you were the only person present." -- ~tanya, to Crazy Andy II,
in MID: <1167007805.9...@a3g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>
If you never read anything else in any of my sigs, read this:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15321167/
http://borealin.livejournal.com/15104.html
Or watch it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqxmPjB0WSs
Then, if you manage to read/watch all that, try this:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
And Molly Ivins had a few choice words to say about it, weeks before:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/092906B.shtml
Here's Chris Floyd: Fatal Vision: The Deeper Evil Behind the Detainee
Bill: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/100206A.shtml
"Q: What's the difference between the Vietnam War and the Iraq War?
A: George W. Bush had a plan to get out of the Vietnam War." -- Anon.
Thread where outing begins: http://tinyurl.com/hojf8
George Pickett Memorial Trophy, Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart,
and the Order of the Holey Sockpuppet winner <wfh...@hotmail.com> on
outing personal contact info in x-poasted subject lines:
"Plenty of people post under their real names and do not attempt to hide
their contact info. You are scared of being 'outed' because you are a
pathological abuser of usenet, and people rightly despise you for it.
You're afraid of being reported to the authorities or, better, visited
by a couple of guys with baseball bats. Other people don't have this
obsessive fear. Ward Hardman himself has posted plenty of personal
information - nothing that anyone else added was hidden in any way.
You're so fucking scared you've built up this whole sick mythology about
different categories of bad dudes who 'out' scum like you.
"Meanwhile you are the ugliest pigfucker in the universe. You are the
coward without ethics. You call me a 'newbie' - ha! what an asshole you
are. Those who want to remain anonymous do so. There is absolutely no
way you could identify me, not unless you had the sort of subpoena power
that only gets turned on for big-time terrorists. That's because I chose
to be anonymous. Some people don't. Only really stupid dicks like you
choose the sort of semi-anonymity which leaves you in constant fear.
"What a dickless wonder you are 'Snarky' you fat asshole."
-- in MID: <1156587081....@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>
"I am the only one who has outer filthed Ward" -- James C. "Crackhead"
Cracked voluntarily self-immolates, in MID:
1159678991.8...@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com
"When I told Abbie Hoffman that he was the first one who made me laugh
since Lenny Bruce died, Hoffman said, "Really? He was my god." The
combination of satirical irreverence and sense of justice that Bruce and
Hoffman shared was the real spirit behind the Yippies--a term I coined
to describe a phenomenon that already existed: an organic coalition of
stoned hippies and political activists who engaged in such actions as
throwing money on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, then
explaining to reporters the meaning of that symbolism. Folksinger Phil
Ochs summed it up: "A demonstration should turn you on, not turn you
off." So when journalists link the Yippies with misleading bedfellows,
at best it's careless shorthand; at worst it's deliberate demonization.
Osama bin Laden wanted an aircraft to crash into the Pentagon. Abbie
Hoffman merely wanted to levitate it." -- Paul Krassner,
http://tinyurl.com/ehu3v
SameAsB4
spooge
10...@usa.net:
> jitter <ji...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>>You kno
>
> What?
Who?
--
When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity.
When many people suffer from a delusion it is called Religion.
-Robert M. Pirsig
SameAsB4
"spooge" <spo...@lartREMOVETHIS.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98B8AA51BFE...@207.14.116.130...
> Art Deco <erfc...@usa.net> wrote in news:140120071414162642%erfc-
> 10...@usa.net:
>
>> jitter <ji...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>>>You kno
>>
>> What?
>
> Who?
Nice, minimalist cascade is Art Deco's specialty. You just can't loose a
flame war that way.
spooge
news:kbcbq.7...@news.alt.net:
>
> "spooge" <spo...@lartREMOVETHIS.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns98B8AA51BFE...@207.14.116.130...
>> Art Deco <erfc...@usa.net> wrote in news:140120071414162642%erfc-
>> 10...@usa.net:
>>
>>> jitter <ji...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>>
>>>>You kno
>>>
>>> What?
>>
>> Who?
>
> Nice, minimalist cascade is Art Deco's specialty. You just can't loose a
> flame war that way.
He wouldn't want to loose (sic) one of those, would he?
Art Deco
>"SameAsB4" <exeb...@yanospamhoo.com> wrote in
>news:kbcbq.7...@news.alt.net:
>
>>
>> "spooge" <spo...@lartREMOVETHIS.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns98B8AA51BFE...@207.14.116.130...
>>> Art Deco <erfc...@usa.net> wrote in news:140120071414162642%erfc-
>>> 10...@usa.net:
>>>
>>>> jitter <ji...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>You kno
>>>>
>>>> What?
>>>
>>> Who?
>>
>> Nice, minimalist cascade is Art Deco's specialty. You just can't loose a
>> flame war that way.
>
>He wouldn't want to loose (sic) one of those, would he?
Fish in reverse to talk not over back yingspeak.
freedomtofascism.com
"Art Deco" <erfc...@usa.net> wrote in message
news:140120071918257645%erfc...@usa.net...
Not over back when evading posts Art Deco hides under carpet.
SameAsB4
"spooge" <spo...@lartREMOVETHIS.com> wrote in message
> "SameAsB4" <exeb...@yanospamhoo.com> wrote in
> news:kbcbq.7...@news.alt.net:
>
>>
>> "spooge" <spo...@lartREMOVETHIS.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns98B8AA51BFE...@207.14.116.130...
>>> Art Deco <erfc...@usa.net> wrote in news:140120071414162642%erfc-
>>> 10...@usa.net:
>>>
>>>> jitter <ji...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>You kno
>>>>
>>>> What?
>>>
>>> Who?
>>
>> Nice, minimalist cascade is Art Deco's specialty. You just can't loose a
>> flame war that way.
>
> He wouldn't want to loose (sic) one of those, would he?
By not starting one, he's already winning. What about you, have you ever won
a flame war?
spooge
That makes more sense than anything he's posted.
spooge
news:kbh8j.5...@news.alt.net:
>
> "spooge" <spo...@lartREMOVETHIS.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns98B8B901810...@207.14.116.130...
>> "SameAsB4" <exeb...@yanospamhoo.com> wrote in
>> news:kbcbq.7...@news.alt.net:
>>
>>>
>>> "spooge" <spo...@lartREMOVETHIS.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns98B8AA51BFE...@207.14.116.130...
>>>> Art Deco <erfc...@usa.net> wrote in news:140120071414162642%erfc-
>>>> 10...@usa.net:
>>>>
>>>>> jitter <ji...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>You kno
>>>>>
>>>>> What?
>>>>
>>>> Who?
>>>
>>> Nice, minimalist cascade is Art Deco's specialty. You just can't
>>> loose a flame war that way.
>>
>> He wouldn't want to loose (sic) one of those, would he?
>
> By not starting one, he's already winning. What about you, have you
> ever won a flame war?
Do you promise to come back to Usenet after you learn how to read?
SameAsB4
"spooge" <spo...@lartREMOVETHIS.com> wrote in message
> "SameAsB4" <exeb...@yanospamhoo.com> wrote in
> news:kbh8j.5...@news.alt.net:
>
>>
>> "spooge" <spo...@lartREMOVETHIS.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns98B8B901810...@207.14.116.130...
>>> "SameAsB4" <exeb...@yanospamhoo.com> wrote in
>>> news:kbcbq.7...@news.alt.net:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "spooge" <spo...@lartREMOVETHIS.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Xns98B8AA51BFE...@207.14.116.130...
>>>>> Art Deco <erfc...@usa.net> wrote in news:140120071414162642%erfc-
>>>>> 10...@usa.net:
>>>>>
>>>>>> jitter <ji...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You kno
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What?
>>>>>
>>>>> Who?
>>>>
>>>> Nice, minimalist cascade is Art Deco's specialty. You just can't
>>>> loose a flame war that way.
>>>
>>> He wouldn't want to loose (sic) one of those, would he?
>>
>> By not starting one, he's already winning. What about you, have you
>> ever won a flame war?
>
> Do you promise to come back to Usenet after you learn how to read?
No I promise to keep posting to USENET without having to read anything. But
back to the subject, Art can't win any flame war so he sticks to simple
cascade. Are you the same way?
SameAsB4
"spooge" <spo...@lartREMOVETHIS.com> wrote in message
> Art Deco <erfc...@usa.net> wrote in
> news:140120071918257645%erfc...@usa.net:
>
>> spooge <spo...@lartREMOVETHIS.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"SameAsB4" <exeb...@yanospamhoo.com> wrote in
>>>news:kbcbq.7...@news.alt.net:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "spooge" <spo...@lartREMOVETHIS.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Xns98B8AA51BFE...@207.14.116.130...
>>>>> Art Deco <erfc...@usa.net> wrote in news:140120071414162642%erfc-
>>>>> 10...@usa.net:
>>>>>
>>>>>> jitter <ji...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You kno
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What?
>>>>>
>>>>> Who?
>>>>
>>>> Nice, minimalist cascade is Art Deco's specialty. You just can't
>>>> loose a flame war that way.
>>>
>>>He wouldn't want to loose (sic) one of those, would he?
>>
>> Fish in reverse to talk not over back yingspeak.
>
> That makes more sense than anything he's posted.
What sense does anything make more than I've posted?
spooge
news:kccgl.s...@news.alt.net:
>
> "spooge" <spo...@lartREMOVETHIS.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns98B8DCABC3B...@207.14.116.130...
>> "SameAsB4" <exeb...@yanospamhoo.com> wrote in
>> news:kbh8j.5...@news.alt.net:
>>
>>>
>>> "spooge" <spo...@lartREMOVETHIS.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns98B8B901810...@207.14.116.130...
>>>> "SameAsB4" <exeb...@yanospamhoo.com> wrote in
>>>> news:kbcbq.7...@news.alt.net:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "spooge" <spo...@lartREMOVETHIS.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Xns98B8AA51BFE...@207.14.116.130...
>>>>>> Art Deco <erfc...@usa.net> wrote in
>>>>>> news:140120071414162642%erfc- 10...@usa.net:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> jitter <ji...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You kno
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice, minimalist cascade is Art Deco's specialty. You just can't
>>>>> loose a flame war that way.
>>>>
>>>> He wouldn't want to loose (sic) one of those, would he?
>>>
>>> By not starting one, he's already winning. What about you, have you
>>> ever won a flame war?
>>
>> Do you promise to come back to Usenet after you learn how to read?
>
> No I promise to keep posting to USENET without having to read
> anything.
Wonderful, you'll continue to be amusingly ignorant.
> But back to the subject, Art can't win any flame war so he
> sticks to simple cascade. Are you the same way?
You'd not be so concerned about Art's flaming had he not gotten the better
of you a time or twenty.
You haven't shown that you're worthy of that kind of attention from me.