Ha ha ha yeah... I didn't change any Email address, but I changed from Usenet server... Google is Darpa controlled now... not a good place to be if the post contains content...
> DID YOU REALLY CHANGE EMAIL ADDRESSES DUE TO THE BELGIAN POLICE
> LOOKING FOR YOU, PIGO?
> DID SOMEONE TURN YOU IN? I SURE WANT TO!
> Saul Levy
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 06:43:20 -0700 (PDT), Warhol<mol...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On Mar 27, 12:52 pm, HVAC<mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 3/26/2012 6:39 PM, Warhol wrote:
>>>> --
>>>> you shill are all gone to my killfile by decree.. Google is reducing
>>>> my Bandwidth and I will reduce my replies to the shills and to the
>>>> people I agree with... I won't be spilling my bandwidth on stupid
>>>> replies anymore... those times I are gone forever...
>>> When does this new policy go into effect?
> And I was nowhere and I replied to you too, but you could not see my
> post... since you read yours on september.org and I was posting via
> Google groups...but Google groups are marooned since five days now... So
> you did not see my post... to see my post you had to read it via google
> which has become some isolated ghost usenet...
> They have tried anything to silence me and others... now I left google
> and you can read again my post... ain't that wonderful... I am Back from
> isolation on some dark island... But can you read Brad post? or joeturn?
> no ofcourse while they too are still posting via google and Marooned...
You people should love it....No one to call you kooks, no one
to challenge your ideas.
> On Mar 25, 2:36 pm, Warhol<mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 25, 9:14 pm, Brad Guth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Mar 25, 10:37 am, Warhol<mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Mar 25, 4:02 pm, HVAC<mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 3/24/2012 9:04 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
>>>>>> Most of the time I'd have to agree with that, although 0.1% of the
>>>>>> time Warhol seems to have it right.
>>>>> Let me guess...Those are the times that Warhole talks
>>>>> about hating the jews?
>>>>> --
>>>> He himself is a a Sephardi jooo, thats a jooo with Moroccan root they
>>>> say, but I don't recognize them as my Family, the bastards... Brad is
>>>> a stay behind, to discredit posters as me... just in case yids would
>>>> lose the argument...
>>>> Brad is angry with Khazars because they killed 100000 Sephardi kids
>>>> with radiations and other dirty stuff, he has many topic on that
>>>> subject too... but Brad is on your side, don't be wrong on that....-
>>>> he works for the NASA department shills... there are so many shill
>>>> here...for example Big dumb Kunt is a 911 department shill... he only
>>>> comes when we talk about 911...and you plumber are you khazar shill...
>>>> ha ha ha ha... you yids shall certainly feel the wrath soon and there
>>>> will no one to help you...
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3DhquH12jQ >>> The number of dead Sephardi kids isn't known with any objective
>>> certainty, although their eventual demise from that extremely high
>>> dosage of radiation can be uncovered from other than DARPA records.
>>> You're looking for excuses again, instead of taking action as you
>>> claim having authority to do.
>>> http://groups.google.com/groups/search >>> http://translate.google.com/# >>> Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / Guth Usenet
>> the only authority I have is to sum you up to surrender...
> With your life in a cave expertise, and applied denial of being in
> denial, should go over big with the next generation of K12s that
> you'll need to teach everything from scratch. Are you sure that
> yourself is up to the task of teaching and otherwise caring for a
> billion kids?
> How many Moorish certified teachers do you have?
>> With your life in a cave expertise, and applied denial of being in
>> denial, should go over big with the next generation of K12s that
>> you'll need to teach everything from scratch. Are you sure that
>> yourself is up to the task of teaching and otherwise caring for a
>> billion kids?
>> How many Moorish certified teachers do you have?
> Decoder ring time
Your gonna need a decoder ring that was molested anally
like Guth was as a child. Careful, it may stink.
> > On Mar 25, 2:36 pm, Warhol<mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mar 25, 9:14 pm, Brad Guth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Mar 25, 10:37 am, Warhol<mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Mar 25, 4:02 pm, HVAC<mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On 3/24/2012 9:04 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
> >>>>>> Most of the time I'd have to agree with that, although 0.1% of the
> >>>>>> time Warhol seems to have it right.
> >>>>> Let me guess...Those are the times that Warhole talks
> >>>>> about hating the jews?
> >>>>> --
> >>>> He himself is a a Sephardi jooo, thats a jooo with Moroccan root they
> >>>> say, but I don't recognize them as my Family, the bastards... Brad is
> >>>> a stay behind, to discredit posters as me... just in case yids would
> >>>> lose the argument...
> >>>> Brad is angry with Khazars because they killed 100000 Sephardi kids
> >>>> with radiations and other dirty stuff, he has many topic on that
> >>>> subject too... but Brad is on your side, don't be wrong on that....-
> >>>> he works for the NASA department shills... there are so many shill
> >>>> here...for example Big dumb Kunt is a 911 department shill... he only
> >>>> comes when we talk about 911...and you plumber are you khazar shill...
> >>>> ha ha ha ha... you yids shall certainly feel the wrath soon and there
> >>>> will no one to help you...
> >>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3DhquH12jQ > >>> The number of dead Sephardi kids isn't known with any objective
> >>> certainty, although their eventual demise from that extremely high
> >>> dosage of radiation can be uncovered from other than DARPA records.
> >>> You're looking for excuses again, instead of taking action as you
> >>> claim having authority to do.
> >>> http://groups.google.com/groups/search > >>> http://translate.google.com/# > >>> Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / Guth Usenet
> >> the only authority I have is to sum you up to surrender...
> > With your life in a cave expertise, and applied denial of being in
> > denial, should go over big with the next generation of K12s that
> > you'll need to teach everything from scratch. Are you sure that
> > yourself is up to the task of teaching and otherwise caring for a
> > billion kids?
> > How many Moorish certified teachers do you have?
> Decoder ring time
ZNR dogs like yourself and HVAC spend most of your time pleasuring
yourself, which means that self-replication is a highly probable
evolution for those of your incest produced kind.
> ZNR dogs like yourself and HVAC spend most of your time pleasuring
> yourself, which means that self-replication is a highly probable
> evolution for those of your incest produced kind.
I guess I touched a nerve there with the comment about
you being molested as a child. Don't you think we should
get it all out in the open?
>On Mar 24, 7:52 pm, Jeff <j...@jsystems.com> wrote:
>> > The thing which you can see with telescopes and binoculars is just a
>> > Light attached at an high altitude airplane.
>> This aircraft can be seen in the sky, in the correct place, and moving
>> at the correct speed, *from many widely spaced locations all at the same
>> time*. The only way that this could be done is by the aircraft flying
>> at the same height and at the same speed as ISS would!!
>> Jeff
>it doesn't fly at the altitude where the supposed ISS must be... Do a
>triangulation and you will see...
>To measure the ISS altitude you must be two, each on different
>locations where the ISS is seen at the same time and a good
>coordination between the two people who do measurement....
>Its really not so difficult to do... Now if put my results here you
>wont believe me.. so check it for yourself or stop believing the false
>religion that science is..
>> Nah. The answer is you just love the spotlight.
>see that the black mark is not on you... if you see the mark, you are
>dead... ha ha ha... as a cursed man...
>maybe Kennedy did see the black spot... and thats why he died just
>like Nero... strange no?... but I don't think angels did the
>termination of those heads...
>On Mar 25, 4:02 pm, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 3/24/2012 9:04 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
>> > Most of the time I'd have to agree with that, although 0.1% of the
>> > time Warhol seems to have it right.
>> Let me guess...Those are the times that Warhole talks
>> about hating the jews?
>He himself is a a Sephardi jooo, thats a jooo with Moroccan root they
>say, but I don't recognize them as my Family, the bastards... Brad is
>a stay behind, to discredit posters as me... just in case yids would
>lose the argument...
>Brad is angry with Khazars because they killed 100000 Sephardi kids
>with radiations and other dirty stuff, he has many topic on that
>subject too... but Brad is on your side, don't be wrong on that....-
>he works for the NASA department shills... there are so many shill
>here...for example Big dumb Kunt is a 911 department shill... he only
>comes when we talk about 911...and you plumber are you khazar shill...
>ha ha ha ha... you yids shall certainly feel the wrath soon and there
>will no one to help you...
>Ha ha ha bastard you have seen nothing yet... and its all end in hell
>fire for some of you.
>Nobody told me there'd be days like these....Strange days indeed!
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will
>know peace.
> HOW MANY DIED IN DALLAS FROM THOSE TORNADOES, PIGO?
> NONE?
> YOU TOLD US EVERYONE DIED!
> FUCKING RAGHEAD LIAR!
> INSANE, DELUSIONAL AND DEMENTED! THAT IS THE PIG!
> Saul Levy
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 19:26:34 -0700 (PDT), Warhol<mol...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On Mar 25, 3:47 am, Metspitzer<Kilow...@charter.net> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 18:28:54 -0700 (PDT), Warhol<mol...@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Mar 25, 12:23 am, Metspitzer<Kilow...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 07:46:10 -0700 (PDT), Warhol<mol...@hotmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>> Nah. The answer is you just love the spotlight.
>> see that the black mark is not on you... if you see the mark, you are
>> dead... ha ha ha... as a cursed man...
>> maybe Kennedy did see the black spot... and thats why he died just
>> like Nero... strange no?... but I don't think angels did the
>> termination of those heads...
> On Mar 27, 9:17 pm, George152 <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:
> > On 3/27/2012 11:25 PM, Warhol wrote:> well well well... 3000km radius you say... I defy you to prove your
> > > claim... even 300 km radius you can't prove... the simple fact....
> > > when Iss is above Paris, I dont see the ISS while i am in Brussels...
> > > just do the test... you will see... thats all all all
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVlfmYq4-O4
> > Sorry. I don't understand nutter..
> > Could you repeat that in English ?
> You do not have a clue about basic science, physics, or even the
> principles of good grammar and proper spelling.
> Do some research...seriously... This was my favorite part...
> Let's create a nice online society that is fiercely controlled by
> mainstream logic, where the even completely misguided, hypothetical
> imaginative discussion is shunned like the dark ages.
> This isn't the Usenet i know.
> Where has our sense of imagination and discussion gone? There is no
> need to attack authors, it's very simple to say "here's why i believe
> you are incorrect, however it is interesting you say this because..."
> Seriously am i teaching people how to engage in a hypothetical
> discussion on the Skunk Works groups?
Just this one time, admit that cranky Moors like yourself are not
always the smartest of the bunch.
Fly-by-rocket between worlds and their moon(s) is perfectly doable,
though apparently this only works as long as you're not a Moor that
has always lived in a cave (w/satellite HDTV none the less).
> On Mar 29, 6:05 pm, Warhol<mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 27, 9:17 pm, George152<gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:
>>> On 3/27/2012 11:25 PM, Warhol wrote:> well well well... 3000km radius you say... I defy you to prove your
>>>> claim... even 300 km radius you can't prove... the simple fact....
>>>> when Iss is above Paris, I dont see the ISS while i am in Brussels...
>>>> just do the test... you will see... thats all all all
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVlfmYq4-O4 >>> Sorry. I don't understand nutter..
>>> Could you repeat that in English ?
>> You do not have a clue about basic science, physics, or even the
>> principles of good grammar and proper spelling.
>> If you really want to learn, open your eyes ...
>> Do some research...seriously... This was my favorite part...
>> Let's create a nice online society that is fiercely controlled by
>> mainstream logic, where the even completely misguided, hypothetical
>> imaginative discussion is shunned like the dark ages.
>> This isn't the Usenet i know.
>> Where has our sense of imagination and discussion gone? There is no
>> need to attack authors, it's very simple to say "here's why i believe
>> you are incorrect, however it is interesting you say this because..."
>> Seriously am i teaching people how to engage in a hypothetical
>> discussion on the Skunk Works groups?
> Just this one time, admit that cranky Moors like yourself are not
> always the smartest of the bunch.
> Fly-by-rocket between worlds and their moon(s) is perfectly doable,
> though apparently this only works as long as you're not a Moor that
> has always lived in a cave (w/satellite HDTV none the less).
> On Mar 29, 6:05 pm, Warhol<mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 27, 9:17 pm, George152<gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:
>>> On 3/27/2012 11:25 PM, Warhol wrote:> well well well... 3000km radius you say... I defy you to prove your
>>>> claim... even 300 km radius you can't prove... the simple fact....
>>>> when Iss is above Paris, I dont see the ISS while i am in Brussels...
>>>> just do the test... you will see... thats all all all
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVlfmYq4-O4
>>> Sorry. I don't understand nutter..
>>> Could you repeat that in English ?
>> You do not have a clue about basic science, physics, or even the
>> principles of good grammar and proper spelling.
>> If you really want to learn, open your eyes ...
>> Do some research...seriously... This was my favorite part...
>> Let's create a nice online society that is fiercely controlled by
>> mainstream logic, where the even completely misguided, hypothetical
>> imaginative discussion is shunned like the dark ages.
>> This isn't the Usenet i know.
>> Where has our sense of imagination and discussion gone? There is no
>> need to attack authors, it's very simple to say "here's why i believe
>> you are incorrect, however it is interesting you say this because..."
>> Seriously am i teaching people how to engage in a hypothetical
>> discussion on the Skunk Works groups?
> Just this one time, admit that cranky Moors like yourself are not
> always the smartest of the bunch.
> Fly-by-rocket between worlds and their moon(s) is perfectly doable,
> though apparently this only works as long as you're not a Moor that
> has always lived in a cave (w/satellite HDTV none the less).
>On Mar 26, 3:11 pm, Les Hellawell <les_...@here.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 23:08:22 -0700 (PDT), Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >If you are a key holder of secrets or otherwise overly
>> >illuminated and you think the heat is getting too hot, to
>> >avoid the issues, vacate the kitchen.
>> Very good but what are the suggested ways of dealing
>> with these attempts so as to keep the person
>> who uses these ploys on topic?
>> Recognising these ploys is a good first step.
>> Les Hellawell
>> Greetings from:
>> YORKSHIRE - The county of broad Acres
>> "It is absurd self delusion for theist and
>> theist-agnostics to claim that they alone should
>> judge atheists by their self-defining, self-serving,
>> propaganda, rather than the REAL WORLD actions and
>> consequences of atheism throughout history."
>Right, recognizing this threats is good begin...
>I start another thread a few days later and the bastards may start
>allover again, knowing they will comeback and repeat the same shit,but
>I always have other surprises for them in petto... but when readers
>will start to remark they are fooled, by a gang of criminals paid to
>keep sheep's blind.... then only we can fight the fallen ones
>effectively... by the way those hordes ain't that clever and never
>have any true answer to the presented facts... they only act as if
>they know about what they talk...
>Bark back to those hordes of villains who use techniques of deceive...
>you recognize them by:
>Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist
>1) Avoidance
>They never actually discuss issues head-on or provide
>constructive input, generally avoiding citation of
>references or credentials. Rather, they merely imply
>this, that, and the other. Virtually everything about
>their presentation implies their authority and expert
>knowledge in the matter without any further justification
>for credibility.
>2) Selectivity
>They tend to pick and choose opponents carefully, either
>applying the hit-and-run approach against mere
>commentators supportive of opponents, or focusing heavier
>attacks on key opponents who are known to directly
>address issues. Should a commentator become argumentative
>with any success, the focus will shift to include the
>commentator as well.
>3) Coincidental
>They tend to surface suddenly and somewhat coincidentally
>with a new controversial topic with no clear prior record
>of participation in general discussions in the particular
>public arena involved. They likewise tend to vanish once
>the topic is no longer of general concern. They were
>likely directed or elected to be there for a reason, and
>vanish with the reason.
>4) Teamwork
>They tend to operate in self-congratulatory and
>complementary packs or teams. Of course, this can happen
>naturally in any public forum, but there will likely be
>an ongoing pattern of frequent exchanges of this sort
>where professionals are involved. Sometimes one of the
>players will infiltrate the opponent camp to become a
>source for straw man or other tactics designed to dilute
>opponent presentation strength.
>5) Anti-conspiratorial
>They almost always have disdain for 'conspiracy
>theorists' and, usually, for those who in any way believe
>JFK was not killed by LHO. Ask yourself why, if they hold
>such disdain for conspiracy theorists, do they focus on
>defending a single topic discussed in a NG focusing on
>conspiracies? One might think they would either be trying
>to make fools of everyone on every topic, or simply
>ignore the group they hold in such disdain. Or, one might
>more rightly conclude they have an ulterior motive for
>their actions in going out of their way to focus as they
>do.
>6) Artificial Emotions
>An odd kind of 'artificial' emotionalism and an unusually
>thick skin -- an ability to persevere and persist even in
>the face of overwhelming criticism and unacceptance. This
>likely stems from intelligence community training that,
>no matter how condemning the evidence, deny everything,
>and never become emotionally involved or reactive. The
>net result for a disinfo artist is that emotions can seem
>artificial. Most people, if responding in anger, for
>instance, will express their animosity throughout their
>rebuttal.
>But disinfo types usually have trouble maintaining the
>'image' and are hot and cold with respect to pretended
>emotions and their usually more calm or unemotional
>communications style. It's just a job, and they often
>seem unable to 'act their role in character' as well in a
>communications medium as they might be able in a real
>face-to-face conversation/confrontation.
>You might have outright rage and indignation one moment,
>ho-hum the next, and more anger later -- an emotional yo-
>yo. With respect to being thick-skinned, no amount of
>criticism will deter them from doing their job, and they
>will generally continue their old disinfo patterns
>without any adjustments to criticisms of how obvious it
>is that they play that game -- where a more rational
>individual who truly cares what others think might seek
>to improve their communications style, substance, and so
>forth, or simply give up.
>7) Inconsistent
>There is also a tendency to make mistakes which betray
>their true self/motives. This may stem from not really
>knowing their topic, or it may be somewhat 'freudian', so
>to speak, in that perhaps they really root for the side
>of truth deep within.
>I have noted that often, they will simply cite
>contradictory information which neutralizes itself and
>the author. For instance, one such player claimed to be a
>Navy pilot, but blamed his poor communicating skills
>(spelling, grammar, incoherent style) on having only a
>grade-school education. I'm not aware of too many Navy
>pilots who don't have a college degree. Another claimed
>no knowledge of a particular topic/situation but later
>claimed first-hand knowledge of it.
>8) Time Constant
>There are three ways this can be seen to work, especially
>when the government or other empowered player is involved
>in a cover up operation:
>o ANY NG posting by a targeted proponent for truth can
>result in an IMMEDIATE response. The government and other
>empowered players can afford to pay people to sit there
>and watch for an opportunity to do some damage. SINCE
>DISINFO IN A NG ONLY WORKS IF THE READER SEES IT - FAST
>RESPONSE IS CALLED FOR, or the visitor may be swayed
>towards truth.
>o When dealing in more direct ways with a
>disinformationalist, such as email, DELAY IS CALLED FOR -
>there will usually be a minimum of a 48-72 hour delay.
>This allows a sit-down team discussion on response
>strategy for best effect, and even enough time to 'get
>permission' or instruction from a formal chain of
>command.
>o In the NG example 1) above, it will often ALSO be seen
>that bigger guns are drawn and fired after the same 48-72
>hours delay - the team approach in play. This is
>especially true when the targeted truth seeker or their
>comments are considered more important with respect to
>potential to reveal truth. Thus, a serious truth sayer
>will be attacked twice for the same sin.
>Remarkably, even media and law enforcement have NOT BEEN
>TRAINED to deal with these issues. For the most part,
>only the players themselves understand the rules of the
>game.
>Marco Torres is a research specialist, writer and
>consumer advocate for healthy lifestyles. He holds
>degrees in Public Health and Environmental Science and is
>a professional speaker on topics such as disease
>prevention, environmental toxins and health policy.
>oIncrementalism: Breaking Free From World Powers Who
>Gradually Destroy Our Health
>oThe Resistance Mounts
> HOW MANY OF YOUR PATIENTS HAVE YOU FUCKED OR MURDERED, PIGO?
> I WANT TO KNOW!
> Saul Levy
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:28:42 -0700 (PDT), Warhol<mol...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On Mar 26, 3:11 pm, Les Hellawell<les_...@here.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 23:08:22 -0700 (PDT), Warhol<mol...@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> If you are a key holder of secrets or otherwise overly
>>>> illuminated and you think the heat is getting too hot, to
>>>> avoid the issues, vacate the kitchen.
>>> Very good but what are the suggested ways of dealing
>>> with these attempts so as to keep the person
>>> who uses these ploys on topic?
>>> Recognising these ploys is a good first step.
>>> Les Hellawell
>>> Greetings from:
>>> YORKSHIRE - The county of broad Acres
>>> "It is absurd self delusion for theist and
>>> theist-agnostics to claim that they alone should
>>> judge atheists by their self-defining, self-serving,
>>> propaganda, rather than the REAL WORLD actions and
>>> consequences of atheism throughout history."
>> Right, recognizing this threats is good begin...
>> I start another thread a few days later and the bastards may start
>> allover again, knowing they will comeback and repeat the same shit,but
>> I always have other surprises for them in petto... but when readers
>> will start to remark they are fooled, by a gang of criminals paid to
>> keep sheep's blind.... then only we can fight the fallen ones
>> effectively... by the way those hordes ain't that clever and never
>> have any true answer to the presented facts... they only act as if
>> they know about what they talk...
>> Bark back to those hordes of villains who use techniques of deceive...
>> you recognize them by:
>> Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist
>> 1) Avoidance
>> They never actually discuss issues head-on or provide
>> constructive input, generally avoiding citation of
>> references or credentials. Rather, they merely imply
>> this, that, and the other. Virtually everything about
>> their presentation implies their authority and expert
>> knowledge in the matter without any further justification
>> for credibility.
>> 2) Selectivity
>> They tend to pick and choose opponents carefully, either
>> applying the hit-and-run approach against mere
>> commentators supportive of opponents, or focusing heavier
>> attacks on key opponents who are known to directly
>> address issues. Should a commentator become argumentative
>> with any success, the focus will shift to include the
>> commentator as well.
>> 3) Coincidental
>> They tend to surface suddenly and somewhat coincidentally
>> with a new controversial topic with no clear prior record
>> of participation in general discussions in the particular
>> public arena involved. They likewise tend to vanish once
>> the topic is no longer of general concern. They were
>> likely directed or elected to be there for a reason, and
>> vanish with the reason.
>> 4) Teamwork
>> They tend to operate in self-congratulatory and
>> complementary packs or teams. Of course, this can happen
>> naturally in any public forum, but there will likely be
>> an ongoing pattern of frequent exchanges of this sort
>> where professionals are involved. Sometimes one of the
>> players will infiltrate the opponent camp to become a
>> source for straw man or other tactics designed to dilute
>> opponent presentation strength.
>> 5) Anti-conspiratorial
>> They almost always have disdain for 'conspiracy
>> theorists' and, usually, for those who in any way believe
>> JFK was not killed by LHO. Ask yourself why, if they hold
>> such disdain for conspiracy theorists, do they focus on
>> defending a single topic discussed in a NG focusing on
>> conspiracies? One might think they would either be trying
>> to make fools of everyone on every topic, or simply
>> ignore the group they hold in such disdain. Or, one might
>> more rightly conclude they have an ulterior motive for
>> their actions in going out of their way to focus as they
>> do.
>> 6) Artificial Emotions
>> An odd kind of 'artificial' emotionalism and an unusually
>> thick skin -- an ability to persevere and persist even in
>> the face of overwhelming criticism and unacceptance. This
>> likely stems from intelligence community training that,
>> no matter how condemning the evidence, deny everything,
>> and never become emotionally involved or reactive. The
>> net result for a disinfo artist is that emotions can seem
>> artificial. Most people, if responding in anger, for
>> instance, will express their animosity throughout their
>> rebuttal.
>> But disinfo types usually have trouble maintaining the
>> 'image' and are hot and cold with respect to pretended
>> emotions and their usually more calm or unemotional
>> communications style. It's just a job, and they often
>> seem unable to 'act their role in character' as well in a
>> communications medium as they might be able in a real
>> face-to-face conversation/confrontation.
>> You might have outright rage and indignation one moment,
>> ho-hum the next, and more anger later -- an emotional yo-
>> yo. With respect to being thick-skinned, no amount of
>> criticism will deter them from doing their job, and they
>> will generally continue their old disinfo patterns
>> without any adjustments to criticisms of how obvious it
>> is that they play that game -- where a more rational
>> individual who truly cares what others think might seek
>> to improve their communications style, substance, and so
>> forth, or simply give up.
>> 7) Inconsistent
>> There is also a tendency to make mistakes which betray
>> their true self/motives. This may stem from not really
>> knowing their topic, or it may be somewhat 'freudian', so
>> to speak, in that perhaps they really root for the side
>> of truth deep within.
>> I have noted that often, they will simply cite
>> contradictory information which neutralizes itself and
>> the author. For instance, one such player claimed to be a
>> Navy pilot, but blamed his poor communicating skills
>> (spelling, grammar, incoherent style) on having only a
>> grade-school education. I'm not aware of too many Navy
>> pilots who don't have a college degree. Another claimed
>> no knowledge of a particular topic/situation but later
>> claimed first-hand knowledge of it.
>> 8) Time Constant
>> There are three ways this can be seen to work, especially
>> when the government or other empowered player is involved
>> in a cover up operation:
>> o ANY NG posting by a targeted proponent for truth can
>> result in an IMMEDIATE response. The government and other
>> empowered players can afford to pay people to sit there
>> and watch for an opportunity to do some damage. SINCE
>> DISINFO IN A NG ONLY WORKS IF THE READER SEES IT - FAST
>> RESPONSE IS CALLED FOR, or the visitor may be swayed
>> towards truth.
>> o When dealing in more direct ways with a
>> disinformationalist, such as email, DELAY IS CALLED FOR -
>> there will usually be a minimum of a 48-72 hour delay.
>> This allows a sit-down team discussion on response
>> strategy for best effect, and even enough time to 'get
>> permission' or instruction from a formal chain of
>> command.
>> o In the NG example 1) above, it will often ALSO be seen
>> that bigger guns are drawn and fired after the same 48-72
>> hours delay - the team approach in play. This is
>> especially true when the targeted truth seeker or their
>> comments are considered more important with respect to
>> potential to reveal truth. Thus, a serious truth sayer
>> will be attacked twice for the same sin.
>> Remarkably, even media and law enforcement have NOT BEEN
>> TRAINED to deal with these issues. For the most part,
>> only the players themselves understand the rules of the
>> game.
>> Marco Torres is a research specialist, writer and
>> consumer advocate for healthy lifestyles. He holds
>> degrees in Public Health and Environmental Science and is
>> a professional speaker on topics such as disease
>> prevention, environmental toxins and health policy.
>> oIncrementalism: Breaking Free From World Powers Who
>> Gradually Destroy Our Health
>> oThe Resistance Mounts
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 21:41:31 +0200, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Hah.... thats not for you but for newbies... you see, they have the >right to know in what world we live in...
>Op 8-4-2012 21:12, saulle...@cox.net schreef:
>> NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR BULLSHIT, PIGO!
>> CAN'T YOU EVEN LEARN THAT?
>> SEEMS NOT!
>> HOW MANY OF YOUR PATIENTS HAVE YOU FUCKED OR MURDERED, PIGO?
>> I WANT TO KNOW!
>> Saul Levy
>> On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:28:42 -0700 (PDT), Warhol<mol...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On Mar 26, 3:11 pm, Les Hellawell<les_...@here.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 23:08:22 -0700 (PDT), Warhol<mol...@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> If you are a key holder of secrets or otherwise overly
>>>>> illuminated and you think the heat is getting too hot, to
>>>>> avoid the issues, vacate the kitchen.
>>>> Very good but what are the suggested ways of dealing
>>>> with these attempts so as to keep the person
>>>> who uses these ploys on topic?
>>>> Recognising these ploys is a good first step.
>>>> Les Hellawell
>>>> Greetings from:
>>>> YORKSHIRE - The county of broad Acres
>>>> "It is absurd self delusion for theist and
>>>> theist-agnostics to claim that they alone should
>>>> judge atheists by their self-defining, self-serving,
>>>> propaganda, rather than the REAL WORLD actions and
>>>> consequences of atheism throughout history."
>>> Right, recognizing this threats is good begin...
>>> I start another thread a few days later and the bastards may start
>>> allover again, knowing they will comeback and repeat the same shit,but
>>> I always have other surprises for them in petto... but when readers
>>> will start to remark they are fooled, by a gang of criminals paid to
>>> keep sheep's blind.... then only we can fight the fallen ones
>>> effectively... by the way those hordes ain't that clever and never
>>> have any true answer to the presented facts... they only act as if
>>> they know about what they talk...
>>> Bark back to those hordes of villains who use techniques of deceive...
>>> you recognize them by:
On Mon, 09 Apr 2012 16:45:25 +0200, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>No I claim that man can't escape his prison or conquer my beloved >Gran'Dy'dy worlds or moons in heaven... thats all all all
I SAID LONG AGO THAT THE PIG IS GETTING MORE AND MORE DELUSIONAL!
Saul Levy
On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 09:54:29 -0700 (PDT), Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>On Mar 24, 4:11 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 24, 7:46 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>how much does NASA pay you Edward?
[NO POST FROM ANY EDWARD!]
>show me one fact that proves ISS up there and try to reflect on that
>Michelin doll in vacuum... when you have answers to those question...
>and until then...
>And what about your saphardi roots??? you remain silent to those
>questions...
>BTW don't forget to comeback with facts.... and as or now, Get thee
>behind me Satan
>sure??? ha ha ha against what does the rocket push in vacuum???
>against tin air? Huston we have a propulsion failure... we flew much
>to high!!!
>You know Icarus also flew luch to high and we all know he finished
>back on the bottem of the ocean, which became his final tomb...
>YOU SEE WHAT FALSE SCIENCE DOES TO PEOPLE MINDS... THEY THINK THEY CAN
>FLY TO SPACE... what a joke you are Bastard... attacking my faith
>constantly with your bullshit and you yourself believe in the false
>religion, that science is... and science will remain a false religion,
>some believe it and others not...
>Don't you think it's about time you shed your false religious
>scientific beliefs?
>There is far more to this world than taught in our schools, shown in
>the media, or proclaimed by the church and state. Most of mankind
>lives in a hypnotic trance, taking to be reality what is instead a
>twisted simulacrum of reality, a collective dream in which values are
>inverted, lies are taken as truth, and tyranny is accepted as
>security. They enjoy their ignorance and cling tightly to the misery
>that gives them identity.
>the problem would always be the same... when the ISS should in the
>light than the surface of the iss cabins would heat up 150 degrees
>Celsius... and when the ISS is in the dark side, the temperature
>should drop to minus 250° Celsius... No man or electronics can survive
>that...
>STOP BELIEVING IN FALSE RELIGIONS... Man can't escape this world...
>whatever science want us to believe, their stupid theories don't stand
>against the Laws... YOU LIVE ON A PRISON WORLD... ask yourself why...
>thats the real question.
