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Warhol

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Mar 24, 2012, 10:46:10 AM3/24/12
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The International Space Station is a HOAX

Since when did the International Space Station have a swimming pool on
board? rolleyes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtKbkSbe9hI

The thing which you can see with telescopes and binoculars is just a
Light attached at an high altitude airplane.

It's empty in heaven and there's no one there

The van allen radiation would kill them and rocket technology doesn't
work in vacuum

The astronauts film their scenes in a movie studio.

Funny isn't it how NASA trains their astronauts in swimming pools to
provide "weightlessness". How stupid is that considering the fact the
water produces significant drag if the astronauts move around - and in
space there is no drag because its a vacuum.

and watch good this astronaut...
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/06/12/spacewalk_wideweb__470x333,0.jpg

Well what wrong you think with the above picture? remember its vacuum
up there!!! and astronuts should be looking like this Michelin guy
below...

http://www.naylornetwork.com/naf-nwl/assets/michelin-man.jpg

Now they tell you; ISS crew take to escape capsules in space junk
alert... But there is no International Space Station. It exists only
in a movie studio

WAIT AND SEE, WAIT AND SEE!!!

Brad Guth

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Mar 24, 2012, 11:11:21 AM3/24/12
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On Mar 24, 7:46 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> The International Space Station is a HOAX
>
> Since when did the International Space Station have a swimming pool on
> board? rolleyes
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtKbkSbe9hI
>
> The thing which you can see with telescopes and binoculars is just a
> Light attached at an high altitude airplane.
>
> It's empty in heaven and there's no one there
>
> The van allen radiation would kill them and rocket technology doesn't
> work in vacuum
>
> The astronauts film their scenes in a movie studio.
>
> Funny isn't it how NASA trains their astronauts in swimming pools to
> provide "weightlessness". How stupid is that considering the fact the
> water produces significant drag if the astronauts move around - and in
> space there is no drag because its a vacuum.
>
> and watch good this astronaut...http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/06/12/spacewalk_wideweb__470x333,...
>
> Well what wrong you think with the above picture? remember its vacuum
> up there!!! and astronuts should be looking like this Michelin guy
> below...
>
> http://www.naylornetwork.com/naf-nwl/assets/michelin-man.jpg
>
> Now they tell you; ISS crew take to escape capsules in space junk
> alert... But there is no International Space Station. It exists only
> in a movie studio
>
> WAIT AND SEE, WAIT AND SEE!!!

No, sadly ISS is quite real and spendy as hell, and some day it's
going to fall on us unless it gets relocated to some other failsafe
place, such as Venus L2. Relocating ISS to the Earth-moon-L1 isn't a
good options because that nifty location is simply too hot plus always
gamma radiated by the moon.

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Hägar

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Mar 24, 2012, 11:53:04 AM3/24/12
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"Brad Guth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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************************************
Since NASA partially funded the ISS with our tax money, and since you Loser
don't pay any taxes (remember your "under the table payment for services
rendered" boast) and I do, it shouldn't matter what YOU think. I think it's
just fine and dandy to spend MY taxes on pace rather than on hapless cradle
to grave morons like yourself, AA, Bert et al.

How that other moron, Warhol got into the act is a mystery, since Arab
Muslims douche-bags haven't achieved anything of note in the past 300 years,
other than wanton destruction of other people's property. Talk about
brainless scumbags ...


Bast

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Mar 24, 2012, 12:15:07 PM3/24/12
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Kudo's to those who work under the table, and refuse to support the corrupt
facist bank run government.

As for you,...I'm glad to see you enjoy pissing away your money, giving
illegals free health care, and keeping that ISS toilet working.


Warhol

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Mar 24, 2012, 12:54:29 PM3/24/12
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how much does NASA pay you Edward?

show me one fact that proves ISS up there and try to reflect on that
Michelin doll in vacuum... when you have answers to those question...
and until then...

And what about your saphardi roots??? you remain silent to those
questions...

BTW don't forget to comeback with facts.... and as or now, Get thee
behind me Satan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5C-VODD7Dc

linuxgal

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Mar 23, 2012, 10:32:14 PM3/23/12
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Hägar wrote:
> "Brad Guth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:a031ced3-ca33-4cc8...@px4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 24, 7:46 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> The International Space Station is a HOAX
>>
>> Since when did the International Space Station have a swimming pool on
>> board? rolleyes
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtKbkSbe9hI
>>
>> The thing which you can see with telescopes and binoculars is just a
>> Light attached at an high altitude airplane.

Fancy looking light!

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0901/ISS_20081227_074532t.jpg


linuxgal

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Mar 23, 2012, 10:36:23 PM3/23/12
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Brad Guth wrote:

> No, sadly ISS is quite real and spendy as hell, and some day it's
> going to fall on us unless it gets relocated to some other failsafe
> place, such as Venus L2. Relocating ISS to the Earth-moon-L1 isn't a
> good options because that nifty location is simply too hot plus always
> gamma radiated by the moon.

The average temps at one AU is -10 F, which is what you get with your
stack perpendicular to the sun in a two minute barbecue roll and all
your electronics powered down. Move to Venus, where there is
approximately twice the number of photons of sunlight per square meter,
and you get quite toasty. The moon is dark in the gamma ray band.

Freedom Man

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Mar 24, 2012, 2:13:12 PM3/24/12
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"Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> The International Space Station is a HOAX
>
> Since when did the International Space Station have a swimming pool on
> board? rolleyes
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtKbkSbe9hI
>
> The thing which you can see with telescopes and binoculars is just a
> Light attached at an high altitude airplane.
>
> It's empty in heaven and there's no one there
>
> The van allen radiation would kill them and rocket technology doesn't
> work in vacuum

< snip >

That last statement PROVES your abysmal ignorance, or that you are knowingly
perpetrating the only hoax here!

Rockets work BEST in a vacuum, where there is no air resistance to their
flight. It is JET ENGINES that cannot function in a vacuum because they
require atmospheric oxygen!


Warhol

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Mar 24, 2012, 2:30:39 PM3/24/12
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On Mar 24, 3:32 am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
> Hägar wrote:
> > "Brad Guth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
is that all ol NASA could come with?

watch good the light reflection of your thing... it doesn't reflect
reality... my opinion photoshop...

Where is that Michelin Man... atleast he went to space..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6RpKVjn7w4

Since when did the International Space Station have a swimming pool on
board?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rruWcu9VpKo

It is a shock to realize the ones who rule are just a bunch of con men
in expensive suits.

Just remember back in the day sheeple were required to believe the
world was flat.

Light Reflects off Disney/NASA Fake Earth Models -Walt Disney Bullshit
For All Mankind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi17lrcvPi4

linuxgal

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Mar 23, 2012, 11:41:22 PM3/23/12
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Not to mention the Van Allen Belt runs from 300 to 5,000 NM altitude,
and the ISS orbits a tad under that.

Hägar

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Mar 24, 2012, 2:45:47 PM3/24/12
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"Bast" <fake...@nomail.invalid> wrote in message
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Bast, that's what keeps me going ....


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Warhol

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Mar 24, 2012, 3:05:51 PM3/24/12
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the problem would always be the same... when the ISS should in the
light than the surface of the iss cabins would heat up 150 degrees
Celsius... and when the ISS is in the dark side, the temperature
should drop to minus 250° Celsius... No man or electronics can survive
that...

STOP BELIEVING IN FALSE RELIGIONS... Man can't escape this world...
whatever science want us to believe, their stupid theories don't stand
against the Laws... YOU LIVE ON A PRISON WORLD... ask yourself why...
thats the real question.

Brad Guth

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Mar 24, 2012, 3:06:42 PM3/24/12
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Google search: moon gamma

Google search: moon X-rays

Google search: moon IR w/m2

"At sub-solar point, flux is 1414 ± 7 W/m2 normal to the surface.
Because the moon is a diffuse high-emissivity body, this results in
surface IR load of ~1314 W/m2 ..."

Google search and then select images if you’d like to cut to the
chase, of interpreting how secondary/recoil hot and otherwise
radiating nasty our physically naked and dark moon really is. Being
parked within the Earth-moon-L1 would totally fry ISS and its crew
unless artificially shaded plus extra shielded from the harmful
radiation. Apollo-13 should have nearly roasted to death, not frozen
to death. The India, Japan and China missions all suffered from
excessive heat and radiation.

The heat to a given satellite, spacecraft or space-station while
coasting between our moon and Earth is not limited as to fending off
the 1.4 kw/m2.

Venus L2 isn't even half as toasty as what ISS in LEO gets to deal
with.

linuxgal

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Mar 24, 2012, 12:08:15 AM3/24/12
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Warhol wrote:

> the problem would always be the same... when the ISS should in the
> light than the surface of the iss cabins would heat up 150 degrees
> Celsius... and when the ISS is in the dark side, the temperature
> should drop to minus 250° Celsius... No man or electronics can survive
> that...

Well, they leave all the hatches open inside, see, and the cabins that
are on the dark side get warm air from the cabins on the light side. It
all comes out in the wash.

Warhol

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Mar 24, 2012, 3:21:03 PM3/24/12
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On Mar 24, 7:52 pm, Jeff <j...@jsystems.com> wrote:
> > The thing which you can see with telescopes and binoculars is just a
> > Light attached at an high altitude airplane.
>
> This aircraft can be seen in the sky, in the correct place, and moving
> at the correct speed, *from many widely spaced locations all at the same
> time*.  The only way that this could be done is by the aircraft flying
> at the same height and at the same speed as ISS would!!
>
> Jeff


it doesn't fly at the altitude where the supposed ISS must be... Do a
triangulation and you will see...

Build yourself a triangulation station...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkr-TY-AHA4

To measure the ISS altitude you must be two, each on different
locations where the ISS is seen at the same time and a good
coordination between the two people who do measurement....

Its really not so difficult to do... Now if put my results here you
wont believe me.. so check it for yourself or stop believing the false
religion that science is..

Brad Guth

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Mar 24, 2012, 3:23:02 PM3/24/12
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But they do have to avoid the outer contour of the SAA as much as
possible, and still their radiation dosage cuts into their LEO time of
serving onboard ISS down to as little as a career year worth of
exposure (depending on solar activity). Older men have been allowed
some career radiation dosage limits of twice and possibly three fold
that of others. ISS females with possible birth defect risk are the
most restricted. Older astronauts with the most space radiation
exposure are having eyesight issues.

With the sun getting more active, could cut their ISS exposure time
down to as little as 6 months per decade.

Brad Guth

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Mar 24, 2012, 3:24:49 PM3/24/12
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On Mar 24, 11:52 am, Jeff <j...@jsystems.com> wrote:
> > The thing which you can see with telescopes and binoculars is just a
> > Light attached at an high altitude airplane.
>
> This aircraft can be seen in the sky, in the correct place, and moving
> at the correct speed, *from many widely spaced locations all at the same
> time*.  The only way that this could be done is by the aircraft flying
> at the same height and at the same speed as ISS would!!
>
> Jeff

Warhol is just yanking our chain. He's really a highly educated and
high level FUD-master.
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Warhol

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Mar 24, 2012, 2:54:44 PM3/24/12
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sure??? ha ha ha against what does the rocket push in vacuum???
against tin air? Huston we have a propulsion failure... we flew much
to high!!!

You know Icarus also flew luch to high and we all know he finished
back on the bottem of the ocean, which became his final tomb...

YOU SEE WHAT FALSE SCIENCE DOES TO PEOPLE MINDS... THEY THINK THEY CAN
FLY TO SPACE... what a joke you are Bastard... attacking my faith
constantly with your bullshit and you yourself believe in the false
religion, that science is... and science will remain a false religion,
some believe it and others not...

Don't you think it's about time you shed your false religious
scientific beliefs?

There is far more to this world than taught in our schools, shown in
the media, or proclaimed by the church and state. Most of mankind
lives in a hypnotic trance, taking to be reality what is instead a
twisted simulacrum of reality, a collective dream in which values are
inverted, lies are taken as truth, and tyranny is accepted as
security. They enjoy their ignorance and cling tightly to the misery
that gives them identity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmi5QvfpYjw

I say with all kindness, your religion CANNOT take you to Heaven...

linuxgal

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Mar 24, 2012, 12:50:52 AM3/24/12
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Brad Guth wrote:
> On Mar 23, 7:36 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>
> The moon is dark in the gamma ray band.
>
> Google search: moon gamma
>
> Google search: moon X-rays
>
> Google search: moon IR w/m2
>
> "At sub-solar point, flux is 1414 ± 7 W/m2 normal to the surface.
> Because the moon is a diffuse high-emissivity body, this results in
> surface IR load of ~1314 W/m2 ..."
>
Like I said, moon is gamma-ray dark, but sun (sub-solar point, no?) is
bright. And your 1414 W /m^2 figure is for total sunlight, and "IR
load" refers to infrared. Those are the fat bass strings. Gamma rays
are in the piccolo range.

George152

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Mar 24, 2012, 3:52:37 PM3/24/12
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On 3/25/2012 7:52 AM, Jeff wrote:
>
>> The thing which you can see with telescopes and binoculars is just a
>> Light attached at an high altitude airplane.
>>
>
> This aircraft can be seen in the sky, in the correct place, and moving
> at the correct speed, *from many widely spaced locations all at the
> same time*. The only way that this could be done is by the aircraft
> flying at the same height and at the same speed as ISS would!!

:)

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HVAC

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Mar 24, 2012, 4:27:03 PM3/24/12
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On 3/24/2012 12:15 PM, Bast wrote:
>
>
> Kudo's to those who work under the table, and refuse to support the corrupt
> facist bank run government.


Your support of corporations using tax dodges and unscrupulous
means to wind up paying next to no taxes is noted.













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"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

saul...@cox.net

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Mar 24, 2012, 4:38:20 PM3/24/12
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HIGHLY UNLIKELY COMING FROM A VILLAGE IDIOT, GOOF!

THE PIG IS THE MOST FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD IDIOT WE KNOW (BESIDES
joeturn)!

Saul Levy


On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 12:24:49 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth
<brad...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mar 24, 11:52 am, Jeff <j...@jsystems.com> wrote:
>> > The thing which you can see with telescopes and binoculars is just a
>> > Light attached at an high altitude airplane.
>>
>> This aircraft can be seen in the sky, in the correct place, and moving
>> at the correct speed, *from many widely spaced locations all at the same
>> time*.  The only way that this could be done is by the aircraft flying
>> at the same height and at the same speed as ISS would!!
>>
>> Jeff
>
>Warhol is just yanking our chain. He's really a highly educated and
>high level FUD-master.
>
> Brad Guth, YES, I AM INSANE!

Warhol

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Mar 24, 2012, 4:57:46 PM3/24/12
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On Mar 24, 8:27 pm, Jeff <j...@jsystems.com> wrote:
> On 24/03/2012 19:21, Warhol wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 24, 7:52 pm, Jeff<j...@jsystems.com>  wrote:
> >>> The thing which you can see with telescopes and binoculars is just a
> >>> Light attached at an high altitude airplane.
>
> >> This aircraft can be seen in the sky, in the correct place, and moving
> >> at the correct speed, *from many widely spaced locations all at the same
> >> time*.  The only way that this could be done is by the aircraft flying
> >> at the same height and at the same speed as ISS would!!
>
> >> Jeff
>
> > it doesn't fly at the altitude where the supposed ISS must be... Do a
> > triangulation and you will see...
>
> > Build yourself a triangulation station...
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkr-TY-AHA4
>
> > To measure the ISS altitude you must be two, each on different
> > locations where the ISS is seen at the same time and a good
> > coordination between the two people who do measurement....
>
> > Its really not so difficult to do...  Now if put my results here you
> > wont believe me.. so check it for yourself or stop believing the false
> > religion that science is..
>
>   Please explain how it can be seen in the *correct* place in the sky by
> widely spaced locations, simultaneously. That is triangulation!!!
>
> You cannot do triangulation from one location.
>
> Jeff


I said two people are needed on two different locations where the ISS
can be seen at the same time... Jeff you are playing rule 9(Play
Dumb.) of the Rules of Disinformation... Rules of Disinformation
straight out of the manual don't work with a Mizwar warrior... I
already know those evil tricks to fool the sheep's who are ignorant...


Warhol

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Mar 24, 2012, 4:48:39 PM3/24/12
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On Mar 24, 8:53 pm, Jeff <j...@jsystems.com> wrote:
> > sure??? ha ha ha against what does the rocket push in vacuum???
> > against tin air? Huston we have a propulsion failure... we flew much
> > to high!!!
>
> A rocket does not "push" against anything. The action of ejecting a mass
> of gas from the back of the engine causes a force in the opposite
> direction to act on the mass of the rocket, so it moves in the opposite
> direction to the ejection of the gas. (Newton's law). That happens
> regardless of whether it is in air or in a vacuum.
>
> Jeff


The ejection can push against air but not against vacuum fool... thats
the law.

Andrew W

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Mar 24, 2012, 5:16:23 PM3/24/12
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"Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4138392e-bd95-42ff...@v22g2000vby.googlegroups.com
>
> sure??? ha ha ha against what does the rocket push in vacuum???
> against tin air? Huston we have a propulsion failure... we flew much
> to high!!!
>

Rockets don't push against anything. That's not how they work.
They use the kick-back principle, like the kick-back from a shotgun.
Educate yourself.

>
> You know Icarus also flew luch to high and we all know he finished
> back on the bottem of the ocean, which became his final tomb...
>

Icarus wasn't a real person. It was a story.

>
> YOU SEE WHAT FALSE SCIENCE DOES TO PEOPLE MINDS... THEY THINK THEY CAN
> FLY TO SPACE... what a joke you are Bastard... attacking my faith
> constantly with your bullshit and you yourself believe in the false
> religion, that science is... and science will remain a false religion,
> some believe it and others not...
>
> Don't you think it's about time you shed your false religious
> scientific beliefs?
>
> There is far more to this world than taught in our schools, shown in
> the media, or proclaimed by the church and state. Most of mankind
> lives in a hypnotic trance, taking to be reality what is instead a
> twisted simulacrum of reality, a collective dream in which values are
> inverted, lies are taken as truth, and tyranny is accepted as
> security. They enjoy their ignorance and cling tightly to the misery
> that gives them identity.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmi5QvfpYjw
>
> I say with all kindness, your religion CANNOT take you to Heaven...
>

You're the one with the religion it seems.
And heaven is not a place that one goes to, its a state of being.


--
No man becomes a slave until he ceases to be his own master.

Christianity - the religion of subjugation.

The Christian religion has a good teaching - Love one another. There
are perhaps a few others. The rest is B.S.


Warhol

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Mar 24, 2012, 5:31:19 PM3/24/12
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inside the carbine it would be a very hot oven or a deep freezer
dependent where the ISS is... that is the reality of the conditions up
there... what ever NASA does are lies and tricks.

There are innumerable people in the US that openly talk about Apollo
being done by Walt Disney, it is one giant open secret. Especially the
old ex-NASA workers openly giggling while saying Walt Disney
bullshit...

Nixon admitted it was Walt Disney Bullshit...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5uYG3vkpo0

Astronaut Charlie Admits Apollo is -Moon Hoax Walt Disney Bullshit.
http://youtu.be/tfMtScdCd6w

President Lyndon Johnson Admits Apollo is -Walt Disney Bullshit Moon
Hoax.

http://youtu.be/XMTTaK5d3bo

Obama should do just the same by declaring ISS is Walt Disney
bullshit.

yep yep...

This is the best one, in my opinion-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-7y06o03Ws

The capsule lands and a voice says "great mickey mouse show"
(the capsule looks just like mickey mouse!)

I'm using fairly decent cheap headphones with the volume up.

Uncle Steve

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Mar 24, 2012, 6:13:20 PM3/24/12
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On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:24:49PM -0700, Brad Guth wrote:
> On Mar 24, 11:52 am, Jeff <j...@jsystems.com> wrote:
> > > The thing which you can see with telescopes and binoculars is just a
> > > Light attached at an high altitude airplane.
> >
> > This aircraft can be seen in the sky, in the correct place, and moving
> > at the correct speed, *from many widely spaced locations all at the same
> > time*.  The only way that this could be done is by the aircraft flying
> > at the same height and at the same speed as ISS would!!
> >
> > Jeff
>
> Warhol is just yanking our chain. He's really a highly educated and
> high level FUD-master.

He has a seven-figure budget at least. So much stupidity cannot be
inexpensive.


Regards,

Uncle Steve

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BDK

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Mar 24, 2012, 7:12:27 PM3/24/12
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In article <44918511-0ddb-4a26-aeab-39d16117eb09
@gw9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
>
> The International Space Station is a HOAX
>
> Since when did the International Space Station have a swimming pool on
> board? rolleyes
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtKbkSbe9hI
>
> The thing which you can see with telescopes and binoculars is just a
> Light attached at an high altitude airplane.
>
> It's empty in heaven and there's no one there
>
> The van allen radiation would kill them and rocket technology doesn't
> work in vacuum
>
> The astronauts film their scenes in a movie studio.
>
> Funny isn't it how NASA trains their astronauts in swimming pools to
> provide "weightlessness". How stupid is that considering the fact the
> water produces significant drag if the astronauts move around - and in
> space there is no drag because its a vacuum.
>
> and watch good this astronaut...
> http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/06/12/spacewalk_wideweb__470x333,0.jpg
>
> Well what wrong you think with the above picture? remember its vacuum
> up there!!! and astronuts should be looking like this Michelin guy
> below...
>
> http://www.naylornetwork.com/naf-nwl/assets/michelin-man.jpg
>
> Now they tell you; ISS crew take to escape capsules in space junk
> alert... But there is no International Space Station. It exists only
> in a movie studio
>
> WAIT AND SEE, WAIT AND SEE!!!

As always, you're totally wrong. And deranged.

--
BDK- Head FUD-Master Blaster.

BDK

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Mar 24, 2012, 7:18:48 PM3/24/12
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In article <039c783c-22b6-4abc-a06b-7e855c5080d7
@t2g2000pbg.googlegroups.com>, brad...@gmail.com says...
> Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / ?Guth Usenet?

Nope, he's just another lunatic, like you. But his brain is pickled in
an entirely different way than yours is. The only common thread between
you is the joo hatin'.

Metspitzer

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Mar 24, 2012, 7:23:58 PM3/24/12
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 07:46:10 -0700 (PDT), Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>The International Space Station is a HOAX
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u70EYe4vy8U

John Baker

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Mar 24, 2012, 7:54:06 PM3/24/12
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 10:36:23 +0800, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com>
wrote:

>Brad Guth wrote:
>
>> No, sadly ISS is quite real and spendy as hell, and some day it's
>> going to fall on us unless it gets relocated to some other failsafe
>> place, such as Venus L2. Relocating ISS to the Earth-moon-L1 isn't a
>> good options because that nifty location is simply too hot plus always
>> gamma radiated by the moon.
>
>The average temps at one AU is -10 F, which is what you get with your
>stack perpendicular to the sun in a two minute barbecue roll and all
>your electronics powered down. Move to Venus, where there is
>approximately twice the number of photons of sunlight per square meter,
>and you get quite toasty. The moon is dark in the gamma ray band.


For the IPU's sake, don't get Brad started on Venus. <G>


Warhol

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Mar 24, 2012, 8:30:50 PM3/24/12
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thank you brad... but I went only till 16 year to school... I could
not stand all the bullshit told by the school teachers. I could hardly
say they where teachers with all propaganda and half truths and false
theories I had to accept as facts without asking questions... But i
worked my whole life as a high degree engineer in Electronics &
Mechanics...

Everybody thinks I am an Industrial Engineer, but I am not, I went
only until my 16 year to school... But I know history like no other
man, religion, Math, Algebra, architecture, Languages no man could
read let them come... there ain't one who could or can stand against
me...

And than I don't even speak of the NASA people with all their
degrees.... when I was 33 years old, I was contacted by somebody who
worked for a NASA department... and he explained me he had big problem
and if I could help him to solve it for NASA, he had heard from a
friend, I was a good at practical number theory and other areas of
mathematics problem solving... than he started to explain me they
where still seeking the right way to calculate PI... and proposed me
200,000$ if I could help... Ha ha ha right the guy proposed me so
much money... To solve the mystery of PI...

"The Blessing of God"

Pi shows up a lot in geometry, but if someone thinks pi only has to do
with circles, then they are missing so much of the mystery of pi.

I said okee... and told him to come back in a few days, knowing that I
would not solve the mystery of the mystery of PI, if NASA couldn't
do... but when when I was making geometric calculations with mathprog,
when I got an idea, and so could solve the great mystery of PI. But I
also understood they where seeking and paying for knowledge that would
permit them to go there where no man was before, since Noah, this
while they where killing the sons of Hussein, the brother of
Hassan...

while this are the same people who are supporting war against my
beloved teacher, in politics and war strategies, Saddam Hussein... So
I decide not to share my knowledge with the Americans, who in those
time where not my friends anymore... BIG SATAN WARMONGERS I thought of
the Americans...

a few days later he came back... I told him his problem was unsolvable
and only GOD had the secret... he looked at me strangely when I said
Only God knows, but I said nothing more...They needed PI - π because
without PI, it is simply impossible to dock the shuttle with the space
station or put a satellite on the right orbit or send a space vehicle
anywhere... while doing some experiments with Mathprog I had
understood how to make the calculation with the exact decimal and it
opened my eyes on many other things, like light flash that went throe
me..

Its then also I started to ask to myself the question... if this
people don't know the correct PI, how could they go to the Moon and
come Back and land on Earth without the correct PI... Without PI they
never could go anywhere... and bit by bit I discovered the BIG LIE of
ICARUS... it was all Walt Disney bullshit.... this discovered and
proved by a man who stopped school at the age of 16 with many
arguments and facts.

So its thanks to NASA herself and the first gulf war 1, I discovered
the truth of the great HOAX... If I wasn't angry with the Americans in
those time, I would certainly had given the great lost secret mystery
of PI... but at that time I thought no pearls for swines and
Zionist... and so kept the lost secret of bending for my own, ...

this how the yids teach PI... ha ha ha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAAPuz20bdo

And this where my ancestors did hide the Great secret of PI in Tan...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CGqAiVoXn0

Btw it's not desert stars or desert people who must receive the credit
for of such master pieces of knowledge & reel art... as always they
omitted the truth of this Mizwar ancestors, who certainly were no
desert dwellers... since I and my Misbah(maccabey) Family always have
kept guard over the skull and bones of Boadil al Ghalib, The
invincible, who overhanded Granada to our enemies until judgment
day... while he had a good laugh with the last sight of his wondrous
palace.... Now i will tell why he laughed whit the last sight....

Now compare the above construction with the description in 1 Kings 7

The Al Hambra Palace in the Bible with the mystery of PI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_jZE6lYhnw

that rested on the backs of twelve oxen arranged in a ring (1 Kings,
7:23-26)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kqnTCxxp5hA/Tvh09ZEDFeI/AAAAAAAAApI/TXDF-_roujM/s1600/esp_alhambra_courtoflions_flickr_blog1.jpg

I Kings 7,23: And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from one brim to
the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and
a line of thirty cubits did compass it about.

That too I discovered and much more thanks to NASA quest for the
Mystery of My GranaDa Gran'Da'Dy... PI... Rate...

Brad Guth

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Mar 24, 2012, 9:00:51 PM3/24/12
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That physically dark and metallicity paramagnetic moon offers
everything from a great deal of IR to gamma.

The physically dark moon is gamma ray bright (at least it gives off
way more per km2 than our sun that's gamma dark). Stop trying to
confuse the rest of us.

Brad Guth

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Mar 24, 2012, 9:04:16 PM3/24/12
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Most of the time I'd have to agree with that, although 0.1% of the
time Warhol seems to have it right.

linuxgal

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Mar 24, 2012, 10:27:47 PM3/24/12
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Andrew W wrote:
>
> Rockets don't push against anything. That's not how they work.
> They use the kick-back principle, like the kick-back from a shotgun.
> Educate yourself.

If you sit on an ice sled with a pile of bricks and throw the bricks
fast enough, you can start moving at quite a clip. It's simply the law
of the conservation of linear momentum.

Warhol

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Mar 24, 2012, 9:28:54 PM3/24/12
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good question... why?

To find the answer to this question you must study the bible...
apocryphal Acts of Peter tell how the Samaritan tried to fly
heavenwards.
the part of Simon Magus... Why did the Simon Magus fool the Romans he
could fly above the world... Well Nero needed distraction for his
people... but distraction of what??? well WAR... Vietnam war... and
later they needed distraction for other reasons...

Simon Magus was labeled "the father of all heretics"

Just as I could Label Wernher von Braun as the father of all heretics
in our age... and Nero is President Kennedy...

Nero and Kennedy died with a bleeding head...

When one of the horsemen entered, upon his seeing Nero all but dead he
attempted to stop the bleeding in vain.

And this how NERO died...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbXI0WSlTGw

You don't believe me? well the bible is a sacred book that explains
all mysteries for him who read it...

Metspitzer

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Mar 24, 2012, 9:47:16 PM3/24/12
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 18:28:54 -0700 (PDT), Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Mar 25, 12:23 am, Metspitzer <Kilow...@charter.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 07:46:10 -0700 (PDT), Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >The International Space Station is a HOAX
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u70EYe4vy8U
>
>
>good question... why?
>
Nah. The answer is you just love the spotlight.

Warhol

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Mar 24, 2012, 10:26:34 PM3/24/12
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see that the black mark is not on you... if you see the mark, you are
dead... ha ha ha... as a cursed man...

maybe Kennedy did see the black spot... and thats why he died just
like Nero... strange no?... but I don't think angels did the
termination of those heads...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i646LVRUzhQ

Warhol

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Mar 24, 2012, 10:52:14 PM3/24/12
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On Mar 25, 1:12 am, BDK <Cont...@Worldcontrol.com> wrote:
> In article <44918511-0ddb-4a26-aeab-39d16117eb09
> @gw9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>, mol...@hotmail.com says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > The International Space Station is a HOAX
>
> > Since when did the International Space Station have a swimming pool on
> > board? rolleyes
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtKbkSbe9hI
>
> > The thing which you can see with telescopes and binoculars is just a
> > Light attached at an high altitude airplane.
>
> > It's empty in heaven and there's no one there
>
> > The van allen radiation would kill them and rocket technology doesn't
> > work in vacuum
>
> > The astronauts film their scenes in a movie studio.
>
> > Funny isn't it how NASA trains their astronauts in swimming pools to
> > provide "weightlessness". How stupid is that considering the fact the
> > water produces significant drag if the astronauts move around - and in
> > space there is no drag because its a vacuum.
>
> > and watch good this astronaut...
> >http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/06/12/spacewalk_wideweb__470x333,...
>
> > Well what wrong you think with the above picture? remember its vacuum
> > up there!!! and astronuts should be looking like this Michelin guy
> > below...
>
> >http://www.naylornetwork.com/naf-nwl/assets/michelin-man.jpg
>
> > Now they tell you; ISS crew take to escape capsules in space junk
> > alert... But there is no International Space Station. It exists only
> > in a movie studio
>
> > WAIT AND SEE, WAIT AND SEE!!!
>
> As always, you're totally wrong. And deranged.
>
> --


Oh come on, nobody has an opinion here??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbCqwl2geQg

Warhol

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Mar 24, 2012, 11:01:29 PM3/24/12
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you will start moving because of the medium, in this case water
waves... but there above there is no medium and only vacuum... I defy
anyone here to prove this little fact wrong... in vacuum there is
nothing to push against...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCiYmCVikjo

Warhol

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Mar 24, 2012, 11:27:47 PM3/24/12
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Get thee behind me Satan and confess how much they paid you...

They = NASA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaZxdLutkNY

linuxgal

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Mar 25, 2012, 12:29:59 AM3/25/12
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No, water waves have nothing to do with it. I said an ice sled.

Warhol

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Mar 24, 2012, 11:34:27 PM3/24/12
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On Mar 24, 9:27 pm, Jeff <j...@jsystems.com> wrote:
> On 24/03/2012 19:21, Warhol wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 24, 7:52 pm, Jeff<j...@jsystems.com>  wrote:
> >>> The thing which you can see with telescopes and binoculars is just a
> >>> Light attached at an high altitude airplane.
>
> >> This aircraft can be seen in the sky, in the correct place, and moving
> >> at the correct speed, *from many widely spaced locations all at the same
> >> time*.  The only way that this could be done is by the aircraft flying
> >> at the same height and at the same speed as ISS would!!
>
> >> Jeff
>
> > it doesn't fly at the altitude where the supposed ISS must be... Do a
> > triangulation and you will see...
>
> > Build yourself a triangulation station...
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkr-TY-AHA4
>
> > To measure the ISS altitude you must be two, each on different
> > locations where the ISS is seen at the same time and a good
> > coordination between the two people who do measurement....
>
> > Its really not so difficult to do...  Now if put my results here you
> > wont believe me.. so check it for yourself or stop believing the false
> > religion that science is..
>
>   Please explain how it can be seen in the *correct* place in the sky by
> widely spaced locations, simultaneously. That is triangulation!!!
>
> You cannot do triangulation from one location.
>
> Jeff


I already replied... but the post doesn't show up... we are living in
age of censure...

But I said stop playing stupid games with me... you disinformations
shill have to discover new ways to make look like fool... and if you
can't read, Then i wonder what you are dong on Usenet... thats all all
all I have to say...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upD3fLvZCM8

Warhol

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Mar 24, 2012, 11:51:35 PM3/24/12
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ha ha ha right... I thought you threw bricks in the water while you
stand on an ice shelves...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXAWW0VJZ4A

Andrew W

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Mar 24, 2012, 11:57:51 PM3/24/12
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"Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f492a5d8-178b-47f9...@i2g2000vbv.googlegroups.com
I think you should prove your claims, since why else would rockets have been
used for space exploration?
Don't you think at least one scientist would have spoken out by now if they
didn't work?

>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCiYmCVikjo
>

That clip doesn't do anything to prove your claims.

Warhol

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Mar 24, 2012, 11:02:45 PM3/24/12
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On Mar 25, 3:04 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
how much do you get from NASA? explain that...

Brad Guth

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Mar 25, 2012, 12:23:29 AM3/25/12
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Actually, yourself representing Moors is a wee bit of a hoax. Before
you came alone, at least some of us thought Moors were intelligent.

Warhol

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Mar 25, 2012, 1:29:50 AM3/25/12
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On Mar 25, 5:57 am, "Andrew W" <remove_ajwer...@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
> "Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f492a5d8-178b-47f9...@i2g2000vbv.googlegroups.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 25, 4:27 am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
> >> Andrew W wrote:
>
> >>> Rockets don't push against anything. That's not how they work.
> >>> They use the kick-back principle, like the kick-back from a shotgun.
> >>> Educate yourself.
>
> >> If you sit on an ice sled with a pile of bricks and throw the bricks
> >> fast enough, you can start moving at quite a clip. It's simply the
> >> law of the conservation of linear momentum.
>
> > you will start moving because of the medium, in this case water
> > waves... but there above there is no medium and only vacuum... I defy
> > anyone here to prove this little fact wrong... in vacuum there is
> > nothing to push against...
>
> I think you should prove your claims, since why else would rockets have been
> used for space exploration?
> Don't you think at least one scientist would have spoken out by now if they
> didn't work?
>
>
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCiYmCVikjo
>
> That clip doesn't do anything to prove your claims.
>
> --


Space exploration is for the sheep... fact is there ain't no Space
exploration...

I don't need to prove anything... let the liars prove they can travel
in vacuum with their stupid rocket technology... I already told its
impossible... ITS A FACT, not a theory

shill go now wash the mud from your eyes and ears and come then only
back...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0-zulL0AiY

Warhol

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Mar 25, 2012, 1:50:12 AM3/25/12
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And how must i represent my self than???

and I will expose you yid shill is working for NASA, spaming our
groups with Venus bullshit... come on edward let your mask fall now or
I will post everything i collected about you the last year and that is
more than youself can imagine...

I really know the techniques your vermin use to discredit the truth,
well I am gone use that technique to discredit you and your mongoloid
roots half bastard half Mongol, attacking your own joooish cousin
breed here in the groups... and you are not lucky since neither you bg
or any other shill can stop the word from traveling around the
world... while the ISS and all other space bullshit will remain
shit...

HOUSTON YOU HAVE A PROBLEM... really... your engines don't push in
vacuum...

This are my Roots... And I Pray To My Gran'Da'Dy The LORD to have pity
on you bastards.... Because I won't have pity to anyone of your kind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7wVtGOVt8c

Warhol

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Mar 25, 2012, 2:16:52 AM3/25/12
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On Mar 24, 8:13 pm, "Freedom Man" <freespe...@4eva.com> wrote:
> "Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:44918511-0ddb-4a26...@gw9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > The International Space Station is a HOAX
>
> > Since when did the International Space Station have a swimming pool on
> > board? rolleyes
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtKbkSbe9hI
>
> > The thing which you can see with telescopes and binoculars is just a
> > Light attached at an high altitude airplane.
>
> > It's empty in heaven and there's no one there
>
> > The van allen radiation would kill them and rocket technology doesn't
> > work in vacuum
>
> < snip >
>
> That last statement PROVES your abysmal ignorance, or that you are knowingly
> perpetrating the only hoax here!
>
> Rockets work BEST in a vacuum, where there is no air resistance to their
> flight. It is JET ENGINES that cannot function in a vacuum because they
> require atmospheric oxygen!


dream on... there is no such thing as space travel... Fact.

and your astronuts would look like Michelin man (Fact), and explode
like a balloon(Fact) when it reach Vacuum space...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qRLnPtUfo8

Andrew W

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Mar 25, 2012, 4:03:41 AM3/25/12
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"Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dda1d5cb-4512-47d9...@l7g2000vbw.googlegroups.com
> On Mar 25, 5:57 am, "Andrew W" <remove_ajwer...@optusnet.com.au>
> wrote:
>>
>> I think you should prove your claims, since why else would rockets
>> have been used for space exploration?
>> Don't you think at least one scientist would have spoken out by now
>> if they didn't work?
>>
>>
>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCiYmCVikjo
>>
>> That clip doesn't do anything to prove your claims.
>>
>> --
>
>
> Space exploration is for the sheep...
>

That's funny, I thought religion was for the sheep.
Isn't Jesus called a shepherd?

>
fact is there ain't no Space
> exploration...
>

That's not a fact, its just your opinion.

>
> I don't need to prove anything... let the liars prove they can travel
> in vacuum with their stupid rocket technology... I already told its
> impossible... ITS A FACT, not a theory
>

Yet its been done since the sixties.
Prove it hasn't.
Which cave do you live in?
Next you're going to be saying the world is really flat.

>
> shill go now wash the mud from your eyes and ears and come then only
> back...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0-zulL0AiY
>

Andrew W

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Mar 25, 2012, 4:07:39 AM3/25/12
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"Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ba242fd4-841c-4ed5...@n5g2000vbf.googlegroups.com
> On Mar 24, 8:13 pm, "Freedom Man" <freespe...@4eva.com> wrote:
>> "Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:44918511-0ddb-4a26...@gw9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> The International Space Station is a HOAX
>>
>>> Since when did the International Space Station have a swimming pool
>>> on board? rolleyes
>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtKbkSbe9hI
>>
>>> The thing which you can see with telescopes and binoculars is just a
>>> Light attached at an high altitude airplane.
>>
>>> It's empty in heaven and there's no one there
>>
>>> The van allen radiation would kill them and rocket technology
>>> doesn't work in vacuum
>>
>> < snip >
>>
>> That last statement PROVES your abysmal ignorance, or that you are
>> knowingly perpetrating the only hoax here!
>>
>> Rockets work BEST in a vacuum, where there is no air resistance to
>> their flight. It is JET ENGINES that cannot function in a vacuum
>> because they require atmospheric oxygen!
>
>
> dream on... there is no such thing as space travel... Fact.
>

If its a fact then you can prove it.
Cite some data that backs up your claim.

>
> and your astronuts would look like Michelin man (Fact), and explode
> like a balloon(Fact) when it reach Vacuum space...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qRLnPtUfo8
>

You talk like a child.
You don't seem to realise that you're alone on this.
Did you even go to school?
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Dean

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Mar 25, 2012, 6:20:14 AM3/25/12
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This has to be a bot stringing these words together in nonsensical
manner.

John Baker

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I'm calling Loki on Whorehole.


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HVAC

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Mar 25, 2012, 9:41:23 AM3/25/12
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The only problem is that eventually you run out of bricks.











--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

HVAC

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Mar 25, 2012, 10:02:03 AM3/25/12
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On 3/24/2012 9:04 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
>
> Most of the time I'd have to agree with that, although 0.1% of the
> time Warhol seems to have it right.


Let me guess...Those are the times that Warhole talks
about hating the jews?

linuxgal

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Mar 25, 2012, 10:03:41 AM3/25/12
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Warhol wrote:

>
> I don't need to prove anything... let the liars prove they can travel
> in vacuum with their stupid rocket technology... I already told its
> impossible... ITS A FACT, not a theory

Said the moron while watching satellite television...

HVAC

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Mar 25, 2012, 10:07:01 AM3/25/12
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On 3/24/2012 10:52 PM, Warhol wrote:
>
>>
>>> Now they tell you; ISS crew take to escape capsules in space junk
>>> alert... But there is no International Space Station. It exists only
>>> in a movie studio
>>
>>> WAIT AND SEE, WAIT AND SEE!!!
>>
>> As always, you're totally wrong. And deranged.
>>
>> --
>
>
> Oh come on, nobody has an opinion here??



Ya...Reality and you parted company long ago.

In other words, you're as crazy as a shithouse rat.

Freedom Man

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Mar 25, 2012, 11:17:26 AM3/25/12
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"Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4138392e-bd95-42ff...@v22g2000vby.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 24, 7:13 pm, "Freedom Man" <freespe...@4eva.com> wrote:
> "Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:44918511-0ddb-4a26...@gw9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > The International Space Station is a HOAX
>
> > Since when did the International Space Station have a swimming pool on
> > board? rolleyes
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtKbkSbe9hI
>
> > The thing which you can see with telescopes and binoculars is just a
> > Light attached at an high altitude airplane.
>
> > It's empty in heaven and there's no one there
>
> > The van allen radiation would kill them and rocket technology doesn't
> > work in vacuum
>
> < snip >
>
> That last statement PROVES your abysmal ignorance, or that you are
> knowingly
> perpetrating the only hoax here!
>
> Rockets work BEST in a vacuum, where there is no air resistance to their
> flight. It is JET ENGINES that cannot function in a vacuum because they
> require atmospheric oxygen!


sure??? ha ha ha against what does the rocket push in vacuum???
against tin air? Huston we have a propulsion failure... we flew much
to high!!!
--
Learn some PHYSICS, and you'll understand that rockets do not "push" against
anything.
--

You know Icarus also flew luch to high and we all know he finished
back on the bottem of the ocean, which became his final tomb...

YOU SEE WHAT FALSE SCIENCE DOES TO PEOPLE MINDS... THEY THINK THEY CAN
FLY TO SPACE... what a joke you are Bastard... attacking my faith
constantly with your bullshit and you yourself believe in the false
religion, that science is... and science will remain a false religion,
some believe it and others not...
--
You are so ignorant that you are not worthy of any further response from me.
GET AN EDUCATION, which is something you religious fanatics badly need!
--

See what RELIGION does to peoples' minds?

Adults no longer believe in the Tooth Fairy - but they still torture and
kill each other over ancient myths and superstitions.

"We all remember how many religious wars were fought for a religion of love
and gentleness; how many bodies were burned alive with the genuinely kind
intention of saving souls from the eternal fire of hell." --- Karl Popper

"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many
people suffer from a delusion, it is called Religion."
--- Robert M. Pirsig

Either God wants to abolish evil and cannot, or he can but does not want to.
If he wants to but cannot he is impotent. If he can but does not want to, he
is wicked. If he neither can nor wants to, then he is both powerless and
wicked.
--- Epicurus, Greek philosopher, circa 300 B.C.

"Act of God" disasters like the Japanese earthquake expose the myth. Either
God can do nothing to stop catastrophes like this, or he doesn't care to, or
he doesn't exist. He is thus either impotent, evil, or imaginary.
--- CNN Belief Blog, 3-20-11

"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and
evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that
takes religion."
--- Steven Weinberg, quoted in The New York Times, April 20, 1999

"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false,
and by rulers as useful."
--- Seneca the Younger (4? BC - 65 AD)

"Religion once ruled the world. It was called the Dark Ages." --- Ruth
Green.

"Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings." ---
Victor Stenger.

"I don't believe in God because I don't believe in Mother Goose." ---
Clarence Darrow

"As my ancestors are free from slavery, I am free from the slavery of
religion." --- Butterfly McQueen

"Faith is believing what you know ain't so." --- Mark Twain

"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in
all fiction." --- Richard Dawkins

"Cult today, religion tomorrow."

The Freedom From Religion Foundation: http://ffrf.org/
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Secular Student Alliance: www.secularstudents.org
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www.americanhumanist.org


linuxgal

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HVAC wrote:
> On 3/24/2012 10:27 PM, linuxgal wrote:
>> Andrew W wrote:
>>>
>>> Rockets don't push against anything. That's not how they work.
>>> They use the kick-back principle, like the kick-back from a shotgun.
>>> Educate yourself.
>>
>> If you sit on an ice sled with a pile of bricks and throw the bricks
>> fast enough, you can start moving at quite a clip. It's simply the law
>> of the conservation of linear momentum.
>
>
> The only problem is that eventually you run out of bricks.
>
Same thing happens with NASA's space probes. They can do some neat
tricks with gravitational assist to stretch the brick supply a bit.

saul...@cox.net

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THE PIG DID DO HIS HOMEWORK: HE IS EXTREMELY STUPID AND UNEDUCATED!

STUPID IN = STUPID OUT!

HE DESERVES TO DIE!

Saul Levy


On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 09:43:13 +0100, Jeff <je...@jsystems.com> wrote:

>On 24/03/2012 20:48, Warhol wrote:
>> On Mar 24, 8:53 pm, Jeff<j...@jsystems.com> wrote:
>>>> sure??? ha ha ha against what does the rocket push in vacuum???
>>>> against tin air? Huston we have a propulsion failure... we flew much
>>>> to high!!!
>>>
>>> A rocket does not "push" against anything. The action of ejecting a mass
>>> of gas from the back of the engine causes a force in the opposite
>>> direction to act on the mass of the rocket, so it moves in the opposite
>>> direction to the ejection of the gas. (Newton's law). That happens
>>> regardless of whether it is in air or in a vacuum.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> The ejection can push against air but not against vacuum fool... thats
>> the law.
>
> No, it is not!
>
> The law is that every action has an equal and opposite reaction, not
>...opposite reaction only in a medium!!
>
>The mass ejected does not "push" against anything, in fact the presence
>of air impedes both the ejection of the mass and effect of the resultant
>opposite force, *reducing* the effect. Rockets work *better* in a vacuum.
>
> Please do your homework.
>
>Jeff

Warhol

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right... you run out of bricks and crash land... good...surrender now
or Else

Warhol

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And you stop believing in false RELIGION.... the Laws Physics are very
clear... in vacuum there ain't no action - reaction, simply because
there is no Medium up there...science a false religeon with no
standing facts... theories remain what they are... a belief system...
you belief or you belief not... that exactly what your religion is...

Ha ha ha See what false religion does to stupid bastards minds.... and
facts are facts... until the end of the world you all are my prisoners
here on planet EARTH...

Anyway you devil children will have many big surprises coming soon...

Three days of darkness is only one example... since you are on the
High Way to Hell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q21eDcY01RY

Warhol

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On Mar 25, 10:07 am, "Andrew W" <remove_ajwer...@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
> "Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
>
> > dream on... there is no such thing as space travel... Fact.
>
> If its a fact then you can prove it.
> Cite some data that backs up your claim.
>
>
>
> > and your astronuts would look like Michelin man (Fact), and explode
> > like a balloon(Fact) when it reach Vacuum space...
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qRLnPtUfo8
>
> You talk like a child.
> You don't seem to realise that you're alone on this.
> Did you even go to school?
>
> --

ha ha ha is if you disinformation shill will ever admit your crimes or
acept simple logic....

All the shill of Usenet are in this thread and nothing than
shills...and all doing exactly what the manual of disinformation
orders them to do...


Here this techniques...


"Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation

1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.
Regardless of what you know, don't discuss it --
especially if you are a public figure, news anchor, etc.
If it's not reported, it didn't happen, and you never
have to deal with the issues.

2. Become incredulous and indignant.

Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side
issues which can be used to show the topic as being
critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme.
This is also known as the 'How dare you!' gambit.

3. Create rumor mongers.

Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges,
regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and wild
accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of
truth may work as well. This method works especially well
with a silent press because the only way the public can
learn of the facts are through such 'arguable rumors'. If
you can associate the material with the Internet, use
this fact to certify it a 'wild rumor' from a 'bunch of
kids on the Internet' which can have no basis in fact.

4. Use a straw man.

Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's
argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself
look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an
issue you may safely imply exists based on your
interpretation of the opponent/opponent
arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the
weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy
them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges,
real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding
discussion of the real issues.

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule.

This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger'
ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that
approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such
as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing',
'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs', 'radicals', 'militia',
'racists', 'religious fanatics', 'sexual deviates', and
so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of
fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing
with issues.

6. Hit and Run.

In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent
or the opponent position and then scamper off before an
answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This
works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-
editor environments where a steady stream of new
identities can be called upon without having to explain
critical reasoning -- simply make an accusation or other
attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any
subsequent response, for that would dignify the
opponent's viewpoint.

7. Question motives.

Twist or amplify any fact which could be taken to imply
that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal
agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and
forces the accuser on the defensive.

8. Invoke authority.

Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority
and present your argument with enough 'jargon' and
'minutia' to illustrate you are 'one who knows', and
simply say it isn't so without discussing issues or
demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.

9. Play Dumb.

No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered,
avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any
credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain
or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix
well for maximum effect.

10. Associate opponent charges with old news.

A derivative of the straw man -- usually, in any large-
scale matter of high visibility, someone will make
charges early on which can be or were already easily
dealt with - a kind of investment for the future should
the matter not be so easily contained.) Where it can be
foreseen, have your own side raise a straw man issue and
have it dealt with early on as part of the initial
contingency plans. Subsequent charges, regardless of
validity or new ground uncovered, can usually then be
associated with the original charge and dismissed as
simply being a rehash without need to address current
issues -- so much the better where the opponent is or was
involved with the original source.

11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions.

Using a minor matter or element of the facts, take the
'high road' and 'confess' with candor that some innocent
mistake, in hindsight, was made -- but that opponents
have seized on the opportunity to blow it all out of
proportion and imply greater criminalities which, 'just
aren't so.' Others can reinforce this on your behalf,
later, and even publicly 'call for an end to the
nonsense' because you have already 'done the right
thing.' Done properly, this can garner sympathy and
respect for 'coming clean' and 'owning up' to your
mistakes without addressing more serious issues.

12. Enigmas have no solution.

Drawing upon the overall umbrella of events surrounding
the crime and the multitude of players and events, paint
the entire affair as too complex to solve. This causes
those otherwise following the matter to begin to lose
interest more quickly without having to address the
actual issues.

13. Alice in Wonderland Logic.

Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards or
with an apparent deductive logic which forbears any
actual material fact.

14. Demand complete solutions.

Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the
crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best with
issues qualifying for rule 10.

15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions.

This requires creative thinking unless the crime was
planned with contingency conclusions in place.

16. Vanish evidence and witnesses.

If it does not exist, it is not fact, and you won't have
to address the issue.

17. Change the subject.

Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed
here, find a way to side-track the discussion with
abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning
attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works
especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you
over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in
order to avoid discussing more key issues.

18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents.

If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your
opponents and draw them into emotional responses which
will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated,
and generally render their material somewhat less
coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues
in the first instance, but even if their emotional
response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the
issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to
criticism.'

19. Ignore facts presented, demand impossible proofs.

This is perhaps a variant of the 'play dumb' rule.
Regardless of what material may be presented by an
opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant
and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to
come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it
may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or
withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to
completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required
that you to categorically deny and be critical of media
or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are
acceptable, or even deny that statements made by
government or other authorities have any meaning or
relevance.

20. False evidence.

Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed
and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations
-- as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or
impede resolution. This works best when the crime was
designed with contingencies for the purpose, and the
facts cannot be easily separated from the fabrications.

21. Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor, or other
empowered investigative body.

Subvert the (process) to your benefit and effectively
neutralize all sensitive issues without open discussion.
Once convened, the evidence and testimony are required to
be secret when properly handled. For instance, if you own
the prosecuting attorney, it can insure a Grand Jury
hears no useful evidence and that the evidence is sealed
an unavailable to subsequent investigators. Once a
favorable verdict is achieved, the matter can be
considered officially closed. Usually, this technique is
applied to find the guilty innocent, but it can also be
used to obtain charges when seeking to frame a victim.

22. Manufacture a new truth.

Create your own expert(s), group(s), author(s), leader(s)
or influence existing ones willing to forge new ground
via scientific, investigative, or social research or
testimony which concludes favorably. In this way, if you
must actually address issues, you can do so
authoritatively.

23. Create bigger distractions.

If the above does not seem to be working to distract from
sensitive issues, or to prevent unwanted media coverage
of unstoppable events such as trials, create bigger news
stories (or treat them as such) to distract the
multitudes.

24. Silence critics.

If the above methods do not prevail, consider removing
opponents from circulation by some definitive solution so
that the need to address issues is removed entirely. This
can be by their death, arrest and detention, blackmail or
destruction of their character by release of blackmail
information, or merely by destroying them financially,
emotionally, or severely damaging their health.

25. Vanish.

If you are a key holder of secrets or otherwise overly
illuminated and you think the heat is getting too hot, to
avoid the issues, vacate the kitchen.
Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist

1) Avoidance

They never actually discuss issues head-on or provide
constructive input, generally avoiding citation of
references or credentials. Rather, they merely imply
this, that, and the other. Virtually everything about
their presentation implies their authority and expert
knowledge in the matter without any further justification
for credibility.

2) Selectivity

They tend to pick and choose opponents carefully, either
applying the hit-and-run approach against mere
commentators supportive of opponents, or focusing heavier
attacks on key opponents who are known to directly
address issues. Should a commentator become argumentative
with any success, the focus will shift to include the
commentator as well.

3) Coincidental

They tend to surface suddenly and somewhat coincidentally
with a new controversial topic with no clear prior record
of participation in general discussions in the particular
public arena involved. They likewise tend to vanish once
the topic is no longer of general concern. They were
likely directed or elected to be there for a reason, and
vanish with the reason.

4) Teamwork

They tend to operate in self-congratulatory and
complementary packs or teams. Of course, this can happen
naturally in any public forum, but there will likely be
an ongoing pattern of frequent exchanges of this sort
where professionals are involved. Sometimes one of the
players will infiltrate the opponent camp to become a
source for straw man or other tactics designed to dilute
opponent presentation strength.

5) Anti-conspiratorial

They almost always have disdain for 'conspiracy
theorists' and, usually, for those who in any way believe
JFK was not killed by LHO. Ask yourself why, if they hold
such disdain for conspiracy theorists, do they focus on
defending a single topic discussed in a NG focusing on
conspiracies? One might think they would either be trying
to make fools of everyone on every topic, or simply
ignore the group they hold in such disdain. Or, one might
more rightly conclude they have an ulterior motive for
their actions in going out of their way to focus as they
do.

6) Artificial Emotions

An odd kind of 'artificial' emotionalism and an unusually
thick skin -- an ability to persevere and persist even in
the face of overwhelming criticism and unacceptance. This
likely stems from intelligence community training that,
no matter how condemning the evidence, deny everything,
and never become emotionally involved or reactive. The
net result for a disinfo artist is that emotions can seem
artificial. Most people, if responding in anger, for
instance, will express their animosity throughout their
rebuttal.

But disinfo types usually have trouble maintaining the
'image' and are hot and cold with respect to pretended
emotions and their usually more calm or unemotional
communications style. It's just a job, and they often
seem unable to 'act their role in character' as well in a
communications medium as they might be able in a real
face-to-face conversation/confrontation.

You might have outright rage and indignation one moment,
ho-hum the next, and more anger later -- an emotional yo-
yo. With respect to being thick-skinned, no amount of
criticism will deter them from doing their job, and they
will generally continue their old disinfo patterns
without any adjustments to criticisms of how obvious it
is that they play that game -- where a more rational
individual who truly cares what others think might seek
to improve their communications style, substance, and so
forth, or simply give up.

7) Inconsistent

There is also a tendency to make mistakes which betray
their true self/motives. This may stem from not really
knowing their topic, or it may be somewhat 'freudian', so
to speak, in that perhaps they really root for the side
of truth deep within.

I have noted that often, they will simply cite
contradictory information which neutralizes itself and
the author. For instance, one such player claimed to be a
Navy pilot, but blamed his poor communicating skills
(spelling, grammar, incoherent style) on having only a
grade-school education. I'm not aware of too many Navy
pilots who don't have a college degree. Another claimed
no knowledge of a particular topic/situation but later
claimed first-hand knowledge of it.

8) Time Constant

There are three ways this can be seen to work, especially
when the government or other empowered player is involved
in a cover up operation:
o ANY NG posting by a targeted proponent for truth can
result in an IMMEDIATE response. The government and other
empowered players can afford to pay people to sit there
and watch for an opportunity to do some damage. SINCE
DISINFO IN A NG ONLY WORKS IF THE READER SEES IT - FAST
RESPONSE IS CALLED FOR, or the visitor may be swayed
towards truth.

o When dealing in more direct ways with a
disinformationalist, such as email, DELAY IS CALLED FOR -
there will usually be a minimum of a 48-72 hour delay.
This allows a sit-down team discussion on response
strategy for best effect, and even enough time to 'get
permission' or instruction from a formal chain of
command.

o In the NG example 1) above, it will often ALSO be seen
that bigger guns are drawn and fired after the same 48-72
hours delay - the team approach in play. This is
especially true when the targeted truth seeker or their
comments are considered more important with respect to
potential to reveal truth. Thus, a serious truth sayer
will be attacked twice for the same sin.

Remarkably, even media and law enforcement have NOT BEEN
TRAINED to deal with these issues. For the most part,
only the players themselves understand the rules of the
game.

Marco Torres is a research specialist, writer and
consumer advocate for healthy lifestyles. He holds
degrees in Public Health and Environmental Science and is
a professional speaker on topics such as disease
prevention, environmental toxins and health policy.

o Incrementalism: Breaking Free From World Powers Who
Gradually Destroy Our Health

o The Resistance Mounts

Warhol

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And i am calling heaven to fall on your head stupid bastard...
Message has been deleted

Warhol

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On Mar 25, 4:02 pm, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/24/2012 9:04 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
>
>
> > Most of the time I'd have to agree with that, although 0.1% of the
> > time Warhol seems to have it right.
>
> Let me guess...Those are the times that Warhole talks
> about hating the jews?
>
> --

He himself is a a Sephardi jooo, thats a jooo with Moroccan root they
say, but I don't recognize them as my Family, the bastards... Brad is
a stay behind, to discredit posters as me... just in case yids would
lose the argument...

Brad is angry with Khazars because they killed 100000 Sephardi kids
with radiations and other dirty stuff, he has many topic on that
subject too... but Brad is on your side, don't be wrong on that....-
he works for the NASA department shills... there are so many shill
here...for example Big dumb Kunt is a 911 department shill... he only
comes when we talk about 911...and you plumber are you khazar shill...
ha ha ha ha... you yids shall certainly feel the wrath soon and there
will no one to help you...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3DhquH12jQ

Brad Guth

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On Mar 24, 10:50 pm, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 25, 6:23 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Actually, yourself representing Moors is a wee bit of a hoax.  Before
> > you came alone, at least some of us thought Moors were intelligent.
>
> And how must i represent my self than???
Just kick back and be a nice guy with honest ideas and
interpretations. Try to balance those ideas and interpretation with
physics and science that isn't entirely "off the hook" as so often the
case with your versions.

>
> and I will expose you yid shill is working for NASA, spaming our
> groups with Venus bullshit... come on edward let your mask fall now or
> I will post everything i collected about you the last year and that is
> more than youself can imagine...

At least Venus is an extremely nearby and real planet, and there's
something about "Guth Venus" that's extremely unusual enough that even
NASA's JPL has removed from their archived Magellan images:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
Because they have to know that I've interpreted something that's
perfectly real.

>
> I really know the techniques your vermin use to discredit the truth,
> well I am gone use that technique to discredit you and your mongoloid
> roots half bastard half Mongol, attacking your own joooish cousin
> breed here in the groups... and you are not lucky since neither you bg
> or any other shill can stop the word from traveling around the
> world... while the ISS and all other space bullshit will remain
> shit...
>
> HOUSTON YOU HAVE A PROBLEM... really... your engines don't push in
> vacuum...
>
> This are my Roots... And I Pray To My Gran'Da'Dy The LORD to have pity
> on you bastards.... Because I won't have pity to anyone of your kind.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7wVtGOVt8c

In deed, our DARPA and NASA Apollo era is still full of cloak and
dagger cold-war smoke and mirrors. So, there's still lots of truth to
discover and publish about our physically dark moon that NASA and
their mostly Zionist oligarchs hasn't been willing to talk about.

Btw; rocket thrust is not actually a push against anything (not that
the hot exhaust isn't capable of pushing against atmosphere), but
instead it's a 50/50 reaction multiplied by an efficiency factor
that's never 100%.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/rocket.html

Acetone Peroxide expands cold at 5.3 km/sec.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone_peroxide

Thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
“Guth Venus” at 1:1, then 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
https://picasaweb.google.com/bradguth/BradGuth#5630418595926178146
https://picasaweb.google.com/bradguth/BradGuth#5629579402364691314
Brad Guth / Blog and my Google document pages:
http://groups.google.com/group/guth-usenet?hl=en
http://bradguth.blogspot.com/
http://docs.google.com/View?id=ddsdxhv_0hrm5bdfj

Brad Guth

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The number of dead Sephardi kids isn't known with any objective
certainty, although their eventual demise from that extremely high
dosage of radiation can be uncovered from other than DARPA records.

You're looking for excuses again, instead of taking action as you
claim having authority to do.

George152

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And on a satellite internet connection

Warhol

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hah... you should read my thread;

"RADIO-WAVES cannot travel through the empty medium of Space -- All
audio and video from Apollo-11, ISS, The Shuttle, are FAKE FAKE FAKE"

another hard standing fact... not only rockets don't function in
vacuum but you can't talk with space... and you cant send women to
space... thats all all all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyYJ9HWcLq0

Warhol

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Dean

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On Mar 25, 7:25 am, Jeff <j...@jsystems.com> wrote:
> On 25/03/2012 12:21, Jeff wrote:
>
>
>
> >> show me one fact that proves ISS up there and try to reflect on that
> >> Michelin doll in vacuum... when you have answers to those question...
> >> and until then...
>
> > And why should the space suit inflate like a Michelin man? The suit only
> > has to withstand less than 1 atmosphere, 14psi, it is easy to constrain
> > that sort of pressure!!
>
> > Jeff
>
> ..and of course not forgetting, by your logic, the force inside the suit
> has nothing to push against so in fact it will not expand at all.
>
> Jeff

Exactly. Let's see warhole explain that one.

Tony Dragon

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What part of a rocket is used for an underwater cable?

Tony Dragon

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Radio waves are part of the electro-magnetic spectrum, you are saying
that electro-magnetic waves can not travel through a vacuum.

So either the sun does not exist, or there is not a vacuum between us
and the sun, which one is it?

Dean

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Warhol

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On Mar 25, 10:42 pm, Tony Dragon <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On 25/03/2012 20:58, Warhol wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 25, 9:25 pm, George152<gbl...@hnpl.net>  wrote:
> >> On 3/26/2012 3:03 AM, linuxgal wrote:>  Warhol wrote:
>
> >>>> I don't need to prove anything... let the liars prove they can travel
> >>>> in vacuum with their stupid rocket technology... I already told its
> >>>> impossible... ITS A FACT, not a theory
>
> >>> Said the moron while watching satellite television...
>
> >> And on a satellite internet connection
>
> > right that why the half of the world is without INTERNET when a sea
> > cable breaks
>
> >http://www.zdnet.com/blog/gadgetreviews/breaking-internet-broken-nort...
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyYJ9HWcLq0
>
> What part of a rocket is used for an underwater cable?


hah I thought we changed the subject to none existing satellite
internet connection... you NASA shills are silly... ha ha ha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW2Q6bvT0GY

John Baker

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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 13:29:31 -0700 (PDT), Dean <dama...@gmail.com>
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>> And i am calling heaven to fall on your head stupid bastard...

Yeah, good luck with that, moron.




>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luB4HLDfS0k&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Warhol

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Mar 25, 2012, 5:32:00 PM3/25/12
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when you post dog please post your own dogs, you bastards... since
that are my dogs, Berber shepherd dogs... the Aida is our German
Shepherd Dog...

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-71246263/stock-photo-aidi-moroccan-dog-breed.html

ain't they lovley ha ha ha

This dogs listen to my voice and not yours, bastards...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW2Q6bvT0GY

and this what I do to bastards...
http://barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/lion-eating1.jpg

Warhol

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Mar 25, 2012, 5:16:06 PM3/25/12
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if you want to discus this subject go to thread where I address the
topic... this thread is about the None existing ISS... please stay to
the topic... or send a email with your questions... there are enough
shills here who try to distract us from the subject of this thread and
also Google doesn't permit me anymore to reply to all post here
neither... they reduced my bandwidth... so much for the freedom of
speech... they silencing me by force...

...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyYJ9HWcLq0

Warhol

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Mar 25, 2012, 5:36:21 PM3/25/12
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the only authority I have is to sum you up to surrender...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW2Q6bvT0GY

Warhol

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Mar 25, 2012, 5:41:25 PM3/25/12
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On Mar 25, 10:46 am, Jeff <j...@jsystems.com> wrote:
> >>> it doesn't fly at the altitude where the supposed ISS must be... Do a
> >>> triangulation and you will see...
>
> >>> Build yourself a triangulation station...
> >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkr-TY-AHA4
>
> >>> To measure the ISS altitude you must be two, each on different
> >>> locations where the ISS is seen at the same time and a good
> >>> coordination between the two people who do measurement....
>
> >>> Its really not so difficult to do...  Now if put my results here you
> >>> wont believe me.. so check it for yourself or stop believing the false
> >>> religion that science is..
>
> >>    Please explain how it can be seen in the *correct* place in the sky by
> >> widely spaced locations, simultaneously. That is triangulation!!!
>
> >> You cannot do triangulation from one location.
>
> >> Jeff
>
> > I said two people are needed on two different locations where the ISS
> > can be seen at the same time... Jeff you are playing rule 9(Play
> > Dumb.) of the Rules of Disinformation... Rules of Disinformation
> > straight out of the manual don't work with a Mizwar warrior... I
> > already know those evil tricks to fool the sheep's who are ignorant...
>
> Well that is exactly the question that I posed to you that you refuse to
> answer; how can several people in widely spaced locations *all* see the
> ISS in the correct place in the sky *all at the same time*?? That *is*
> triangulation, and not possible to replicate with aircraft.
>
> Jeff


I didn't refuse to answer your post, that is false, but my post
disappears without appearing on any server... you glorious bastards
are winning now for a little while...

But my words remains there for all to see all around the world...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyYJ9HWcLq0

linuxgal

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Mar 25, 2012, 6:45:44 PM3/25/12
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Warhol wrote:
>
> "RADIO-WAVES cannot travel through the empty medium of Space -- All
> audio and video from Apollo-11, ISS, The Shuttle, are FAKE FAKE FAKE"
>
So now we have an aether believer.

Tony Dragon

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Mar 25, 2012, 6:33:40 PM3/25/12
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On 25/03/2012 22:09, Warhol wrote:
> On Mar 25, 10:42 pm, Tony Dragon<tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> On 25/03/2012 20:58, Warhol wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 25, 9:25 pm, George152<gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:
>>>> On 3/26/2012 3:03 AM, linuxgal wrote:> Warhol wrote:
>>
>>>>>> I don't need to prove anything... let the liars prove they can travel
>>>>>> in vacuum with their stupid rocket technology... I already told its
>>>>>> impossible... ITS A FACT, not a theory
>>
>>>>> Said the moron while watching satellite television...
>>
>>>> And on a satellite internet connection
>>
>>> right that why the half of the world is without INTERNET when a sea
>>> cable breaks
>>
>>> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/gadgetreviews/breaking-internet-broken-nort...
>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyYJ9HWcLq0
>>
>> What part of a rocket is used for an underwater cable?
>
>
> hah I thought

No you didn't.

> we

we?

> changed the subject to none

?

> existing satellite
> internet connection... you NASA shills are silly

Can you tell me how to claim my salary from NASA?

> .. ha ha ha

Indeed you are funny.

>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW2Q6bvT0GY

Tony Dragon

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Mar 25, 2012, 6:37:52 PM3/25/12
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On 25/03/2012 22:16, Warhol wrote:
> On Mar 25, 10:47 pm, Tony Dragon<tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> On 25/03/2012 20:50, Warhol wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 25, 4:03 pm, linuxgal<linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>>>> Warhol wrote:
>>
>>>>> I don't need to prove anything... let the liars prove they can travel
>>>>> in vacuum with their stupid rocket technology... I already told its
>>>>> impossible... ITS A FACT, not a theory
>>
>>>> Said the moron while watching satellite television...
>>
>>> hah... you should read my thread;
>>
>>> "RADIO-WAVES cannot travel through the empty medium of Space -- All
>>> audio and video from Apollo-11, ISS, The Shuttle, are FAKE FAKE FAKE"
>>
>>> another hard standing fact... not only rockets don't function in
>>> vacuum but you can't talk with space... and you cant send women to
>>> space... thats all all all
>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyYJ9HWcLq0
>>
>> Radio waves are part of the electro-magnetic spectrum, you are saying
>> that electro-magnetic waves can not travel through a vacuum.
>>
>> So either the sun does not exist, or there is not a vacuum between us
>> and the sun, which one is it?
>
>
> if you want to discus this subject go to thread where I address the
> topic... this thread is about the None existing ISS...

So you did not post "not only rockets don't function in
vacuum" you do seem to be confused.

> please stay to
> the topic... or send a email with your questions... there are enough
> shills here who try to distract us from the subject of this thread and
> also Google doesn't permit me anymore to reply to all post here
> neither... they reduced my bandwidth... so much for the freedom of
> speech... they silencing me by force...

So don't use Google, you poor thing.

>
> ...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyYJ9HWcLq0
>

Warhol

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Mar 25, 2012, 6:40:09 PM3/25/12
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Warhol

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Mar 25, 2012, 6:41:10 PM3/25/12
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saul...@cox.net

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Mar 25, 2012, 7:09:37 PM3/25/12
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YOU CONTNIUE TO ACCEPT ONLY THINGS WHICH FIT YOUR VERY UNEDUCATED,
STUPID, MORONIC AND IMBECILIC VIEWS, PIGO!

YOU KNOW ALREADY WHAT THAT MAKES YOU!

QUIT LYING, FOOL!

THERE IS NO MORE SHIT-FILLED, HATE-FILLED RELIGION THAN YOURS, PIGGY!

I SHIT ON YOU AND YOUR DELUSIONS, PIGSHIT!

NOTHING IS HAPPENING!

NOTHING WILL HAPPEN!

NOTHING ACCORDING TO THE PIG EVER HAPPENS!

GO FUCK YOUR ASSHOLE OF A SAPPY PAPPY! HE IS FUCKING YOU BACK EVERY
FUCKING DAY!

Saul Levy


On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 10:04:54 -0700 (PDT), Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>And you stop believing in false RELIGION.... the Laws Physics are very
>clear... in vacuum there ain't no action - reaction, simply because
>there is no Medium up there...science a false religeon with no
>standing facts... theories remain what they are... a belief system...
>you belief or you belief not... that exactly what your religion is...
>
>Ha ha ha See what false religion does to stupid bastards minds.... and
>facts are facts... until the end of the world you all are my prisoners
>here on planet EARTH...
>
>Anyway you devil children will have many big surprises coming soon...
>
>Three days of darkness is only one example... since you are on the
>High Way to Hell
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q21eDcY01RY
[YOU RUIN ANOTHER GREAT SONG!]

Dakota

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Mar 25, 2012, 7:47:44 PM3/25/12
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Another fool who doesn't realize that 'freedom of speech' only protects
a speaker from government restrictions. Google is free to restrict
whomever they wish.

Tronscend

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Mar 25, 2012, 8:45:52 PM3/25/12
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"linuxgal" <linu...@cleanposts.com> skrev i melding
news:PsadnZ3yprj2D_LS...@giganews.com...
An aetheist ...?

T


Warhol

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Mar 25, 2012, 8:50:43 PM3/25/12
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On Mar 25, 10:43 am, Jeff <j...@jsystems.com> wrote:
> On 24/03/2012 20:48, Warhol wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 24, 8:53 pm, Jeff<j...@jsystems.com>  wrote:
> >>> sure??? ha ha ha against what does the rocket push in vacuum???
> >>> against tin air? Huston we have a propulsion failure... we flew much
> >>> to high!!!
>
> >> A rocket does not "push" against anything. The action of ejecting a mass
> >> of gas from the back of the engine causes a force in the opposite
> >> direction to act on the mass of the rocket, so it moves in the opposite
> >> direction to the ejection of the gas. (Newton's law). That happens
> >> regardless of whether it is in air or in a vacuum.
>
> >> Jeff
>
> > The ejection can push against air but not against vacuum fool... thats
> > the law.
>
>   No, it is not!
>
>   The law is that every action has an equal and opposite reaction, not
> ...opposite reaction only in a medium!!
>
> The mass ejected does not "push" against anything, in fact the presence
> of air impedes both the ejection of the mass and effect of the resultant
> opposite force, *reducing* the effect. Rockets work *better* in a vacuum.
>
>   Please do your homework.
>
> Jeff


Action and reaction needs a medium which not found in vacuum... you
fail to understand the logic of atmosphere and Vacuum...

In the atmosphere the rocket can push against air... but in vacuum
there is nothing to push against.. 69.6 miles or 112.0 km is the
limit...

Space is a vacuum where there is no resistance how can a vehicle
adjust its course as there is nothing for the boosters to push
against?

Newton's Third Law doesn't apply in Vacuum.

space is a vacuum and void of atmosphere, In other words, how can
they "push off" against nothing... there is nothing to push against is
a STANDING FACT not a theory or so... Hard standing fact... there is
nothing to push against... THE LOGIC.

Isaac Newton worked published it in 1687 in his Principia Mathematica.

1st: A body will remain at rest or at motion with a uniform speed
unless it is acted on my an external force.
2nd: The acceleration of a body with a force acting on it is that
force divided by the mass of the body (F=ma)
3rd: Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

In Vacuum there ain't no external force... in atmosphere there is a
external force but in Vacuum not...

Newton's 3rd law seems contrary to your intuition, however you might
have seen it in action if you have ever let up a balloon.. What pushes
the balloon all up to the stratosphere... Balloons like rockets push
against the atmosphere.... Balloons explode when they reach tin air
and rockets will fall back to earth by the Law of Newton... a rocket
produces no thrust in vacuum...

You see that "Rocket Science" is typically associated with physics...
and its only in 1915, when Robert Goddard theorized that a rocket
would maybe work in a vacuum... but the theory has never been
proven... and is still only a theory...

Dr. Robert Goddard, the "father" of American rocketry, was wrong.

I remain with... rockets don't work in vacuum... the Law of Warhol, is
a standing fact.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLGWyfGk_LU

Metspitzer

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Mar 25, 2012, 9:25:51 PM3/25/12
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:50:43 -0700 (PDT), Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com>
wrote:


>
>Action and reaction needs a medium which not found in vacuum... you
>fail to understand the logic of atmosphere and Vacuum...
>
>In the atmosphere the rocket can push against air... but in vacuum
>there is nothing to push against.. 69.6 miles or 112.0 km is the
>limit...
>
>Space is a vacuum where there is no resistance how can a vehicle
>adjust its course as there is nothing for the boosters to push
>against?

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u70EYe4vy8U


Have you had to defend all the space junk yet?

You probably think Santa Clause is a hoax too.
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