Earth moving away from the Sun!
Saul Levy
INCHES PER YEAR!
See:
http://www.skyandtelescope.com/community/skyblog/newsblog/46618862.html
Why? Tidal interactions just like the Moon's orbit is also increasing
by less than TWO INCHES PER YEAR.
Saul Levy
Double-A
Thanks, Saul. I have long wondered and speculated as to whether this
was happening.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/d8582c95f030912b?hl=en&dmode=source
Double-A
Mark Earnest
"Double-A" <doub...@hush.com> wrote in message
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/d8582c95f030912b?hl=en&dmode=source
Double-A
**Multiply six inches a year by 4 and a half billion since the Earth was
formed, and see what you get. Earth would be long gone from the life zone,
which according to fossil records it had to be within during the last
billion years or so.
BradGuth
> "Double-A" <double...@hush.com> wrote in message
>
> news:028e3175-f42e-47e3...@o20g2000vbh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 6, 1:46 pm, Saul Levy <saulle...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Since Paine isn't here: The Earth's orbit increases in size by SIX
> > INCHES PER YEAR!
>
> > See:http://www.skyandtelescope.com/community/skyblog/newsblog/46618862.html
>
> > Why? Tidal interactions just like the Moon's orbit is also increasing
> > by less than TWO INCHES PER YEAR.
>
> > Saul Levy
>
> Thanks, Saul. I have long wondered and speculated as to whether this
> was happening.
>
>
> Double-A
>
> **Multiply six inches a year by 4 and a half billion since the Earth was
> formed, and see what you get. Earth would be long gone from the life zone,
> which according to fossil records it had to be within during the last
> billion years or so.
Scientific matter of fact doesn't count for much, because it's all eye-
candy and tactical infomercial hype.
"They calculate that, thanks to Earth, the Sun's rotation rate is
slowing by 3 milliseconds per century (0.00003 second per year). In
other words, as an answer to the question "Why is the a.u.
increasing?", the four researchers conclude it's "because the Sun is
losing its angular momentum.""
Not to mention that Earth has been losing 100<1000 kg/sec of mostly
helium, hydrogen, plus a little H3 and He3 that apparently has no
value whatsoever.
~ BG
Mark Earnest
"BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 6, 2:41 pm, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Double-A" <double...@hush.com> wrote in message
>
> news:028e3175-f42e-47e3...@o20g2000vbh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 6, 1:46 pm, Saul Levy <saulle...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Since Paine isn't here: The Earth's orbit increases in size by SIX
> > INCHES PER YEAR!
>
> > See:http://www.skyandtelescope.com/community/skyblog/newsblog/46618862.html
>
> > Why? Tidal interactions just like the Moon's orbit is also increasing
> > by less than TWO INCHES PER YEAR.
>
> > Saul Levy
>
> Thanks, Saul. I have long wondered and speculated as to whether this
> was happening.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/d8582c95f030912b?hl=en...
>
> Double-A
>
> **Multiply six inches a year by 4 and a half billion since the Earth was
> formed, and see what you get. Earth would be long gone from the life zone,
> which according to fossil records it had to be within during the last
> billion years or so.
Scientific matter of fact doesn't count for much, because it's all eye-
candy and tactical infomercial hype.
**No it doesn't. But you still have to appeal to it constantly to maintain
credibility.
BradGuth
> "BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Can't argue against that logic. To some extent we have to play along,
even though we know something just isn't right.
~ BG
Saul Levy
million years, Mark!
So your "theory" is wrong anyway.
Saul Levy
Double-A
>
> news:028e3175-f42e-47e3...@o20g2000vbh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 6, 1:46 pm, Saul Levy <saulle...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Since Paine isn't here: The Earth's orbit increases in size by SIX
> > INCHES PER YEAR!
>
> > See:http://www.skyandtelescope.com/community/skyblog/newsblog/46618862.html
>
> > Why? Tidal interactions just like the Moon's orbit is also increasing
> > by less than TWO INCHES PER YEAR.
>
> > Saul Levy
>
> Thanks, Saul. I have long wondered and speculated as to whether this
> was happening.
>
>
> Double-A
>
> **Multiply six inches a year by 4 and a half billion since the Earth was
> formed, and see what you get. Earth would be long gone from the life zone,
> which according to fossil records it had to be within during the last
> billion years or so.
Did you actually do this calculation? My calculator gives me less
than a half million miles difference, hardly significant. What does
your calculator say?
Double-A
Mark Earnest
**Earth is delicate. It doesn't take much to significanly cool things down.
And Earth has been heating up, if you look at the polar ice caps.
namekuseijin
Wow, two whole inches! Didn't expect such a doom and gloom scenario
from you, sir! :P
I hope Earth vanishes by losing mass by the tons before it reaches
Pluto... :)
Saul Levy
If you can't even get that right, what hope is there?
Saul Levy
Saul Levy
Saul Levy
Mark Earnest
shelves plumeting into the sea?
"Saul Levy" <saul...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Saul Levy
Saul Levy
On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 16:04:05 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
Mark Earnest
You're not very bright, are you?
"Saul Levy" <saul...@cox.net> wrote in message
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G=EMC^2 Glazier
it that can explain why our orbit is getting larger. Possible the energy
giving off from the Sun is pushing Earth further away. Possibly since
the Sun is losing mass its gravitational force is less. Maybe space
between the earth and Sun is expanding and that is making the orbit
bigger. I think its all of what I just posted. go figure TreBert
BradGuth
As the sun and Earth each lose mass, the mutual attracting force of
gravity is less.
Eventually there will be a helium flashover, and at that time the mass
of our red giant sun will become a 4th to as little as a 5th of its
original mass, and then all the surviving planets will suddenly move
further away or get set free to roam about the galaxy.
~ BG
Mark Earnest
"G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbert...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:8600-4A2C...@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net...
The Earth is just a band around the Sun, coalesced into a round ball.
There is no reason for it to leave the Sun. It likes the Sun, with all that
astounding gravity it has.
G=EMC^2 Glazier
Earth. Its the Moon that does the most lifting of our oceans water. Best
to keep in mind the moon is very close,and the Sun is so far away. The
moon is only 2,000 miles in diameter and yet it perfectly matches the
size of the Sun when its in front of it. That always will amaze me.
Such a lucky coincidence Trebert
BradGuth
How the hell did folks as of 12,000 BP that had to be extremely smart
in order to survive, as such never take any notice of this fantastic
moon, much less take advantage of its illuminating our crystal clear
and frosty nighttime of that ice-age era?
Going back 24,000 years and there'd be ice into the tropics, and for
certain that vibrant moon during much of the time, and yet there's
nothing objectively suggesting that Earth had such a moon.
~ BG
Saul Levy
I don't know if YOU'RE SMART ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THAT POINT!
LIAR B is just DREAMING UP EXCUSES for the TIDAL INTERACTIONS WHICH
ARE OCCURING! All are WRONG!
Saul Levy
On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 23:43:49 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Saul Levy
The Moon's gravity has EXACTLY THE SAME EFFECT ON THE EARTH THAT THE
SUN HAS!
You NEVER REMEMBER WHAT YOU'VE READ!
Being so CLEVER and an IDIOT just don't go together!
You get the PHYSICS STUPID AWARD which is a LONG WAY from a Nobel! A
VERY LONG WAY!
Saul Levy
Saul Levy
That includes Antarctica!
The Pacific Ocean has been COOLING!
Take off the BLINDERS ALREADY! Your STUPIDITY CONTINUES TO SHINE
BRIGHTLY!
Saul Levy
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 00:30:39 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
Saul Levy
Your INSANITY knows no BOUNDS!
Saul Levy
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 06:17:00 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>How the hell did folks as of 12,000 BP that had to be extremely smart
Double-A
If you read the article, all these possibilites were considered and
dismissed in favor of the tidal force effect.
Double-A
BradGuth
In favor of is hardly objective, now is it?
What about the sun and Earth each losing mass.
The sun has been losing how much mass/sec?
Eden/Earth is currently losing how much mass/sec?
Or, doesn't losing mass and thereby losing the mutual force of gravity
account for anything?
~ BG
Double-A
The Earth is gaining mass.
Double-A
BradGuth
Dear LLPOF,
Got any objective proof or even subjective evidence of that? (didn't
think so)
You must be employed by Big Energy, and devoutly republican to boot.
Noticed that you, Art Deco and rabbi Saul Levy never once shed a tear
over the foiled OCO mission, and the fact of there being no actual
investigation, other than the usual cover-thy-butt of PR hype.
Now we know who's side you're on, don't we. Not bad work for a spook/
mole like yourself, if you can get it.
Are you actually suggesting that Earth, coal, oil and especially
natural gas contains no helium or otherwise involves no release of
hydrogen?
Apparently in your case the regular laws of physics and best available
science that's peer replicated doesn't mean squat, just like innocent
lives traumatized and/or exterminated doesn't mean squat to those of
your kind.
~ BG
Double-A
The Earth is gaining hundreds of millions of pounds of mass each year
from meteors and space dust. This is much more mass than it is
losing.
Double-A
BradGuth
Obviously you don't want to know the truth, but then you're not
anything of what you claim to be anyway, so what's the difference?
As far as physics and the best available science, you're shooting
blanks instead of real bullets.
"Planets and moons losing mass by the tonnes/sec"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astronomy/browse_frm/thread/28ecb804b16f3c4d?hl=en#
~ BG
Double-A
>
> ~ BG
The Earth also gains some hudrogen and helium from the solar wind.
Double-A
Luigi Caselli
news:3skl259p694a7gq0i...@4ax.com...
> Since Paine isn't here: The Earth's orbit increases in size by SIX
> INCHES PER YEAR!
>
> See:
> http://www.skyandtelescope.com/community/skyblog/newsblog/46618862.html
>
> Why? Tidal interactions just like the Moon's orbit is also increasing
> by less than TWO INCHES PER YEAR.
>
Well, do I have to worry about it?
Maybe moving away from the Sun is good to avoid global warming.
But 6 inches per year is not enough to switch off my air conditioner... :-)
Luigi Caselli
BradGuth
wrote:
> "Saul Levy" <saulle...@cox.net> ha scritto nel messaggionews:3skl259p694a7gq0i...@4ax.com...
Right, let the next generations pay for everything. Sounds like
you're set for life, and haven't a bone of remorse to worry about.
Good for you.
~ BG
BradGuth
So much for those warm and fuzzy conditional laws of physics and
purely subjective science from your obfuscation land of Oz. Have
yourself another swig of Two Buck Chuck, and fart while you're at it.
I take it you don't believe in global warming, or in global pollution
or for that matter in anything that has any stench of Big Energy
involved.
You know, for a spook/mole like yourself that can't read, you're not
acting very smart by blowing your cover.
~ BG
Saul Levy
We're having a COOLER late spring than normal. Maybe summer will be a
cooler one too.
Global COOLING you know!
Saul Levy
Saul Levy
He's just another SENILE OLD FART! And WebTV is a PIECE OF SHIT!
Saul Levy
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 11:21:25 -0700 (PDT), Double-A <doub...@hush.com>
wrote:
Mark Earnest
You have to be pretty dumb to think such a thing is funny.
Pretty stupid, that is.
"Saul Levy" <saul...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Saul Levy
I'm just SHOWING VERY CLEARLY HOW EASILY FOOLED PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE!
BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Did you also VOTE FOR ObaMAO? A LOT of USELESS IDIOTS DID!
Saul Levy
Saul Levy
The Sun is using up it's mass so SLOWLY and Earth is GAINING MASS
(also slowly) EVERY DAY!
Sounds to me like you are INSANE! Why don't you get on Hoax to Hoax
with this theory! You BELONG there!
Saul Levy
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 11:51:00 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>What about the sun and Earth each losing mass.
Saul Levy
GOOFBALL! lmfjao!
Seems NO ONE BUT YOU CARE ABOUT IT!
Wasn't the first failed mission. Won't be the last.
Why don't you switch your FIXATION to PEAS?
Saul Levy
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 13:09:27 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>Noticed that you, Art Deco and rabbi Saul Levy never once shed a tear
Saul Levy
lmfjao!
It's so much FUN to point out how INSANE you are!
Saul Levy
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 13:30:37 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>"Planets and moons losing mass by the tonnes/sec"
>
> ~ BG
G=EMC^2 Glazier
takes over you become a low wit thinker. My brain is serving me well. My
posts contain most of my own ideas,and that should be appreciated,rather
than get hateful remarks. Good fair open criticism is healthy. Hateful
criticism comes from low lives TreBert
Saul Levy
Definitely SENILE! Too bad since you can't even tell!
Saul Levy
Luigi Caselli
> Mine is on too, Luigi! The thermostat set up only half way.
>
> We're having a COOLER late spring than normal. Maybe summer will be a
> cooler one too.
>
> Global COOLING you know!
>
> Saul Levy
I hate hot weather so this is very COOL!
:-)
Luigi Caselli
Luigi Caselli
On Jun 8, 3:13 pm, "Luigi Caselli"
>
> Well, do I have to worry about it?
> Maybe moving away from the Sun is good to avoid global warming.
> But 6 inches per year is not enough to switch off my air conditioner...
:-)
>
> Luigi Caselli
>Right, let the next generations pay for everything. Sounds like
>you're set for life, and haven't a bone of remorse to worry about.
>Good for you.
Well, these days I'm worrying about everything and global warming is not
more urgent than paying my taxes... :-(
Luigi Caselli
BradGuth
wrote:
> "BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
Like I said, the next generations get to pay for everything and then
some (plus interest). As long as your butt isn't on the line, who
cares about the other guy or whatever future generations that are
screwed because of your actions/inactions.
~ BG
Saul Levy
Saul Levy
Saul Levy
Remember there are 100 SOLAR MASS STARS OUT THERE!
Maybe we should ROAST A PIGGY on one of them?
Saul Levy
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 10:21:58 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>Our sun consumes or burns through 4.28e9 kg/sec
>The original Sirius B of perhaps 8 solar masses had an expedited
>timeline until reaching its white dwarf phase was reached 75 to 100
>times faster stellar evolution than our sun reaching it�s white dwarf
>phase in roughly 15e9 years.
>
>Sirius B had to burn through its fuel at 2.5e12 kg/sec
>In other words, having to burn through roughly 8 times as much mass in
>1/75th the time is what represents an extremely vibrant star,
>especially along with the original Sirius A at perhaps 3+ solar mass
>and Sirius C at whatever it started out as perhaps worth <1 solar
>mass.
>
>Now that�s a seriously hot star that�s sharing substantial X-rays and
>gamma, taking place at perhaps less than 10 light years from us, while
>the red supergiant phase and its helium flashover (aka slow nova) into
>becoming the little white dwarf happening even closer.
>
>Our Earth and moon is losing mass at the very least 1e3 kg/sec,
>combined with the 4.28e9 kg/sec that our sun is burning through and
>the persistent 300~400 km/s of solar wind that�s pushing upon us (not
>to mention the added force of halo CMEs), is suggesting it�s most
>likely a gradual loss of gravity or reduction in tidal radius is
>what�s causing the majority of our recession away from the sun.
>
>This could actually become a good thing, especially if we somehow
>manage to artificially cause Earth and our moon combined to lose 1e4
>kg/sec, while our sun keeps getting more and more into the IR spectrum
>that�ll eventually become an inflated red giant of <250 times radii,
>with fluctuation affects reaching out nearly to Mars radii, means that
>Earth needs to get as far away form our sun as possible.
>
>Nothing much to worry about: (as long as our geomagnetic force doesn�t
>fail us)
>Btw, Sirius A has gone through at least 30% of it�s original mass, and
>is about to become an impressive red supergiant of its own once
>exceeding 33% consumption, especially with a nearby Sirius B sucking
>the hydrogen life out of Sirius A, as such isn�t exactly retarding
>this process.
>
> ~ BG
BradGuth
> On Jun 6, 1:46 pm, Saul Levy <saulle...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Since Paine isn't here: The Earth's orbit increases in size by SIX
> > INCHES PER YEAR!
>
> > See:http://www.skyandtelescope.com/community/skyblog/newsblog/46618862.html
>
> > Why? Tidal interactions just like the Moon's orbit is also increasing
> > by less than TWO INCHES PER YEAR.
>
> > Saul Levy
>
> was happening.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/d8582c95f030912b?hl=en...
>
> Double-A
A combined loss of mass is reducing the gravitational force that’s
keeping us associated with our sun. We are simply not getting
heavier, but then most of us would much rather believe anything
published by your Zionist Nazi masters of mainstream infomercials and
false eye-candy deception. What’s so hard to figure otherwise?
Here’s my further revised/edited version of stellar timelines that’ll
offer some alternative interpretation as to the recent birth and life
of the Sirius star/solar system, and that of this process most likely
having impacted our relatively nearby and passive solar system.
Our sun consumes or burns through 4.28e9 kg/sec
The original Sirius B of perhaps 8 solar masses had an expedited
timeline up until reaching its recent white dwarf phase, as obtained
at least 100 times faster stellar evolution than our sun reaching it’s
white dwarf phase within roughly 250e9 years (in other words for us,
our sun is never going to die unless something extremely large smacks
into it). Actually that’s more like a thousand fold faster stellar
evolution required, because Sirius B may have survived for as little
as 200 million years before having become the white dwarf.
Sirius B had to burn through its fuel at 1e14 < 1e15 kg/sec
In other words, having to burn through roughly 8 times as much mass in
as little as 1/1000th the time is what represents an extremely vibrant
(nearly exploding) kind of star, especially along with the original
Sirius A at perhaps 3+ solar mass and Sirius C at whatever it started
out as perhaps worth <1 solar mass is representing one heck of a great
deal of burning through such volumes of hydrogen and helium mass.
Now that’s a seriously hot star system that’s sharing loads of
substantial hard-X-rays and gamma, taking place at perhaps less than
10 light years from us, while the red supergiant phase and its helium
flashover (aka slow nova) into becoming the little white dwarf
happening even closer to us.
Our Earth and moon are each losing mass, and at the very least we are
losing 1e3 kg/sec, combined with the 4.28e9 kg/sec that our sun is
burning through, and given the persistent 300~400 km/s of solar wind
that’s pushing upon us (not to mention the added force of halo CMEs),
is suggesting it’s most likely this gradual loss of gravity or
reduction in tidal radius is what’s causing the majority of our
recession away from the sun.
This could actually become a good thing, especially if we somehow
manage to artificially cause Earth and our moon combined to lose 1e4
kg/sec, while our sun keeps getting more and more into the IR spectrum
that’ll eventually become an inflated red giant of <250 times radii,
with fluctuation affects and the increased loss of mass reaching out
nearly to Mars radii, means that Earth needs to get as far away form
our sun as possible, and the sooner the better.
Nothing all that much to worry about: (as long as our fading
geomagnetic force doesn’t entirely fail us)
http://spaceweather.gmu.edu/index_files/cme.jpg
http://users.aber.ac.uk/azb/images/lasco-c2-cme.jpg
http://www.astronomycast.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/cme.jpg
http://soho.nascom.nasa.gov/gallery/images/large/suncombo1_prev.jpg
http://ct.gsfc.nasa.gov/insights/vol13/tele.htm
Btw, Sirius A has most likely gone through at least 30% of it’s
original mass, and is about to become an impressive red supergiant of
its very own once exceeding 33% consumption, especially with a nearby
Sirius B sucking the hydrogen life out of Sirius A, as such isn’t
exactly retarding this process.
Of course, within the next million years there’ll be considerably less
magnetosphere and insufficient terrestrial resources for Eden/Earth to
sustain much other than robust bugs, microbes and spores of whatever
we once had been. That million years is a very short cosmic time, so
not to worry about such matters is best, even though advancing
technology could held salvage our otherwise certain demise. Too bad
the previous million years of terrestrial life had been so wasted, and
perhaps better luck next time unless some faith-based cults have other
intentions.
~ BG
G=EMC^2 Glazier
it we came to the reality that the balance of Sun's gravity was not a
strong as the inertia force of earth's revolving(angular momentum) Its
another of mother natures force slightly out of balance. 6 inches a year
is a very tiny measurement to add to its distance of over 92,000,000
miles. Trebert
BradGuth
Good freaking Christ almighty on a stick. The sun has been losing
4.3e9 kg/sec.
Do the damn math, or are you simply too old and cranky?
It's primarily the weak force of gravity, but then the strong magnetic
and electrostatic forces of attractions are most certainly also
involved. The amount of Earth's recession caused by the mutual tidal
forces via "earth's revolving(angular momentum)" and otherwise mostly
via the solar angular momentum, is relatively minor.
The mutual or combined loss in mass of Earth and our Selene/moon is at
the very least 1e3 kg/sec. Again, do the freaking math.
What the hell is the matter with you? Are you as bipolar as rabbi
Saul Levy and Art Deco or even William Mook?
Loss of angular momentum is only one of the factors. Loss of mass is
by far the most significant cause of planetary recession. If any
planet should be measurably receding because of whatever loss of
angular momentum, it would have to be Jupiter, because Jupiter
essentially keeps everything that comes its way. Unlike Earth, the
planet Jupiter is gaining mass and if anything is losing it's orbital
velocity as well as closing in on our sun.
~ BG
Saul Levy
When I post the CORRECT reason, you IGNORE IT and keep giving us the
USUAL MASS LOSS BULLSHIT!
It's obvious that you have NO CLUE when it comes to THE HUGE SCALE OF
ASTRONOMICAL OBJECTS AND SPACE!
Jupiter is GAINING mass, while the Earth ISN'T?
BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
What a VILLAGE IDIOT you are! We've done the math and you are STILL
STUPID!
Saul Levy
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:48:14 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
<brad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Good freaking Christ almighty on a stick. The sun has been losing
>4.3e9 kg/sec.
>
>Do the damn math, or are you simply too old and cranky?
>
>It's primarily the weak force of gravity, but then the strong magnetic
>and electrostatic forces of attractions are most certainly also
>involved. The amount of Earth's recession caused by the mutual tidal
>forces via "earth's revolving(angular momentum)" and otherwise mostly
>via the solar angular momentum, is relatively minor.
>
>The mutual or combined loss in mass of Earth and our Selene/moon is at
>the very least 1e3 kg/sec. Again, do the freaking math.
>
>What the hell is the matter with you? Are you as bipolar as rabbi
>Saul Levy and Art Deco or even ?
G=EMC^2 Glazier
let Asminov in his book "Physics" do the math for me. He had the Sun
losing 11 million tons of mass each second do to its tremendous out put
of photons. So you see he like I feel photons have some tiny mass. Be
nice or I will be nasty too.. Trebert
BradGuth
> Bg I am old I am cranky and in pain, and do not need you to remind me.
> I let Asminov in his book "Physics" do the math for me. He had the Sun
> losing 11 million tons of mass each second do to its tremendous out put
> of photons. So you see he like I feel photons have some tiny mass. Be
> nice or I will be nasty too.. Trebert
Photons do seem to represent a nonzero mass, although electrons,
positrons, protons and neutrons most likely represent the bulk of what
our sun has been losing in terms of mass.
That Asminov number of 11 million tons per second could be a little
bit towards the extreme high side, whereas most have calculated this
loss at less than 5 million tons/sec (<4.5e9 kg/sec). But then I too
like Asminov, and will accept that higher number of 1e10 kg/sec,
because that makes my previous point even more so plausible.
~ BG
Saul Levy
It's ASIMOV, you DORKS!
Saul Levy
Painius
news:028e3175-f42e-47e3...@o20g2000vbh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 6, 1:46 pm, Saul Levy <saulle...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> Since Paine isn't here: The Earth's orbit increases in size by SIX
>> INCHES PER YEAR!
>>
>> See:
>> http://www.skyandtelescope.com/community/skyblog/newsblog/46618862.html
>>
>> Why? Tidal interactions just like the Moon's orbit is also increasing
>> by less than TWO INCHES PER YEAR.
>>
>> Saul Levy
>
> Thanks, Saul. I have long wondered and speculated as to whether this
> was happening.
>
>
> Double-A
Six inches a year is such a small amount that 4.5 billion
years ago (if that rate has not changed) and using the
present approximate Earth-Sun distance of 93 million
miles, the Earth has moved about 1/2 a million miles
outward from the Sun. Back then it would have been
92.5 million miles away from the Sun. And this is why
the astronomers i've talked to consider the tidal effect
between the Sun and planets to be insignificant.
It is in fact so insignificant even between the Earth and
the Moon that both these PLANETS will be gravitationally
bound to each other even 7.5 billion years from now,
which is the max time for the Sun to go Red Giant.
This might, however, explain some of the Sun's loss of
angular momentum and why the Sun, with the most
mass has by far the smallest angular momentum of all
the orbs in the Solar system.
happy days and...
starry starry nights!
--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth
P.S.: "I believe in looking reality straight in the
eye and denying it." > Garrison Keillor
P.P.S.: http://Astronomy.painellsworth.net
http://PoisonFalls.painellsworth.net
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paine_Ellsworth
BradGuth
> "Double-A" <double...@hush.com> wrote in message...
>
> news:028e3175-f42e-47e3...@o20g2000vbh.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> > On Jun 6, 1:46 pm, Saul Levy <saulle...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >> Since Paine isn't here: The Earth's orbit increases in size by SIX
> >> INCHES PER YEAR!
>
> >> See:
> >>http://www.skyandtelescope.com/community/skyblog/newsblog/46618862.html
>
> >> Why? Tidal interactions just like the Moon's orbit is also increasing
> >> by less than TWO INCHES PER YEAR.
>
> >> Saul Levy
>
> > Thanks, Saul. I have long wondered and speculated as to whether this
> > was happening.
>
>
> > Double-A
>
> Six inches a year is such a small amount that 4.5 billion
> years ago (if that rate has not changed) and using the
> present approximate Earth-Sun distance of 93 million
> miles, the Earth has moved about 1/2 a million miles
> outward from the Sun. Back then it would have been
> 92.5 million miles away from the Sun. And this is why
> the astronomers i've talked to consider the tidal effect
> between the Sun and planets to be insignificant.
>
> It is in fact so insignificant even between the Earth and
> the Moon that both these PLANETS will be gravitationally
> bound to each other even 7.5 billion years from now,
> which is the max time for the Sun to go Red Giant.
>
> This might, however, explain some of the Sun's loss of
> angular momentum and why the Sun, with the most
> mass has by far the smallest angular momentum of all
> the orbs in the Solar system.
>
> happy days and...
> starry starry nights!
> --
> Indelibly yours,
> Paine Ellsworth
In spite of whatever our resident rabbi Saul Levy spews from between
his mainstream infomercial butt-cheeks, you are most correct, in that
the earth-sun tidal interaction is extremely minor, whereas the
ongoing loss of 1e10 kg/sec is not so minor.
Actually, in order for that main sequence red giant phase too begin
within just 7.5 billion years, our sun of 12 billion years would have
had to have been consuming plus tossing off a combined average of at
least 1e11 kg/sec (100 million tonnes/sec), and otherwise the more
than likely average loss of 1e12 kg/sec (1000 million tonnes/sec)
seems closer to the truth because, 1e12 kg/sec represents a more
respectable 12 billion year loss of 17.765% from an original solar
mass of 2.13e30 kg.
Unless my math is wrong (wouldn’t be the first time), or that a given
main sequence star simply doesn’t have to burn through nearly as much
of its hydrogen, whereas it seems we’ve been systematically
misinformed about how much mass a given star has to consume and/or
blow off before going into its red giant phase.
~ BG
BradGuth
> "Double-A" <double...@hush.com> wrote in message...
> > was happening.
>
>
> > Double-A
>
> Six inches a year is such a small amount that 4.5 billion
> years ago (if that rate has not changed) and using the
> present approximate Earth-Sun distance of 93 million
> miles, the Earth has moved about 1/2 a million miles
> outward from the Sun. Back then it would have been
> 92.5 million miles away from the Sun. And this is why
> the astronomers i've talked to consider the tidal effect
> between the Sun and planets to be insignificant.
>
> It is in fact so insignificant even between the Earth and
> the Moon that both these PLANETS will be gravitationally
> bound to each other even 7.5 billion years from now,
> which is the max time for the Sun to go Red Giant.
>
> This might, however, explain some of the Sun's loss of
> angular momentum and why the Sun, with the most
> mass has by far the smallest angular momentum of all
> the orbs in the Solar system.
>
> happy days and...
> starry starry nights!
>
> --
> Indelibly yours,
> Paine Ellsworth
In spite of whatever our resident rabbi Saul Levy spews from between
his mainstream infomercial flapping butt-cheeks, you are as usual
mostly correct, in that the earth-sun tidal interaction is extremely
minor, whereas the ongoing loss of 1e10 kg/sec is not so minor.
Actually, in order for that main sequence red giant phase to begin
within just 7.5 billion years, our sun of 12 billion years would have
had to have been consuming plus tossing off a combined average of at
least 1e11 kg/sec (100 million tonnes/sec), and otherwise the more
than likely average loss of 1e12 kg/sec (1000 million tonnes/sec)
seems a whole lot closer to the truth because, 1e12 kg/sec represents
a more respectable 12 billion year loss of 17.8% from an original
solar mass of 2.13e30 kg.
Unless my math is wrong (wouldn’t be the first time), or that a given
main sequence star simply doesn’t have to burn through nearly as much
of its hydrogen as we’ve been told, whereas it seems that we’ve been
Saul Levy
Worthless, but a repeat.
Saul Levy
BradGuth
>
> > Since Paine isn't here: The Earth's orbit increases in size by SIX
> > INCHES PER YEAR!
>
> > See:http://www.skyandtelescope.com/community/skyblog/newsblog/46618862.html
>
> > Why? Tidal interactions just like the Moon's orbit is also increasing
> > by less than TWO INCHES PER YEAR.
>
> > Saul Levy
>
> was happening.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/d8582c95f030912b?hl=en...
>
> Double-A
Our sun, most planets and moons are losing mass by the tonnes/sec:
In other fewer words; if our sun is supposedly going into its red
giant phase as of a 12 billion year lifetime, the average loss of
mostly hydrogen mass would have to be more like losing at least 1e12
kg/sec (1000 million tonnes per second), and otherwise not the wussy
4e6 tonnes as suggested by the vast bulk of what our mainstream closed
mindset has to say.
This also means that Sirius B was in fact a very large and extremely
massive star of perhaps 8+ solar masses to begin with, and that it was
extremely bright as it so quickly burned through and ejected a combine
7 solar masses within ~250 million years, before the helium flashover
and becoming the little white dwarf that we can barely see today
(though essentially an invisible spectrum to the human eye).
With a given loss of mass represents a given loss of gravity and of
its tidal radii, and mass and gravity sort of go hand and hand.
~ BG
BradGuth
> "Double-A" <double...@hush.com> wrote in message...
> > was happening.
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/d8582c95f030912b?hl=en...
>
> > Double-A
>
> years ago (if that rate has not changed) and using the
> present approximate Earth-Sun distance of 93 million
> miles, the Earth has moved about 1/2 a million miles
> outward from the Sun. Back then it would have been
> 92.5 million miles away from the Sun. And this is why
> the astronomers i've talked to consider the tidal effect
> between the Sun and planets to be insignificant.
>
> It is in fact so insignificant even between the Earth and
> the Moon that both these PLANETS will be gravitationally
> bound to each other even 7.5 billion years from now,
> which is the max time for the Sun to go Red Giant.
>
> This might, however, explain some of the Sun's loss of
> angular momentum and why the Sun, with the most
> mass has by far the smallest angular momentum of all
> the orbs in the Solar system.
>
> happy days and...
> starry starry nights!
>
> --
> Indelibly yours,
> Paine Ellsworth
In spite of whatever our resident rabbi Saul Levy spews from between
his mainstream infomercial flapping butt-cheeks, you are as per usual
mostly correct, in that the earth-sun tidal interaction is extremely
minor, whereas the ongoing loss of at least 1e11 kg/sec is not so
minor.
Actually, in order for that main sequence red giant phase to begin
within 7.5 billion years, our sun of 12 billion years would have had
to have been consuming plus CME losing a combined average mass of at
least 1e12 kg/sec (1000 million tonnes/sec), and otherwise the more
than likely requiring an average loss of 2e12 kg/sec (2000 million
tonnes/sec) seems a whole lot closer to the truth because, 2e12 kg/sec
represents a more respectable 12 billion year loss of 33.3% from an
original solar mass of 2.27e30 kg, which still may represent an
insufficient loss of mass in order to bring on the bloated red giant
phase.
If our red giant phase is coming any sooner than 7.5 billion years,
simply adjust the rate of average mass loss to suit, such as 3e12 kg/
sec or whatever qualifies within the window of time given.
Unless my math is wrong (wouldn’t be the first time), or that a given
main sequence star simply doesn’t have to burn through nearly as much
of its hydrogen as we’ve been told, whereas it seems that we’ve been
systematically misinformed about how much mass a given star has to
consume and/or blow off before going into its red giant phase. Our
sun may actually require a depletion of >2e12 kg/s in order to have
burned and otherwise blown off sufficient hydrogen, helium and other
mass within 12 billion years.
~ BG
Saul Levy
You are MAKING IT ALL UP because you HAVEN'T A CLUE!
Saul Levy
BradGuth
wrote:
> "Saul Levy" <saulle...@cox.net> ha scritto nel messaggionews:3skl259p694a7gq0i...@4ax.com...
>
> > Since Paine isn't here: The Earth's orbit increases in size by SIX
> > INCHES PER YEAR!
>
> > See:
> >http://www.skyandtelescope.com/community/skyblog/newsblog/46618862.html
>
> > Why? Tidal interactions just like the Moon's orbit is also increasing
> > by less than TWO INCHES PER YEAR.
>
> > Saul Levy
>
> Maybe moving away from the Sun is good to avoid global warming.
> But 6 inches per year is not enough to switch off my air conditioner... :-)
>
> Luigi Caselli
Instead, relocate our moon out to Earth L1. That'll cut the solar
energy by 3%, and reduce tides to roughly half.
~ BG
Saul Levy
Saul Levy
BradGuth
It takes a fairly substantial consumption and/or staggering CME loss
of roughly at least a third stellar mass before becoming a full blown
red giant, making Betelgeuse originally worth an impressive 30+ solar
masses.
http://blogs.nature.com/news/thegreatbeyond/2009/06/betelgeuse_about_to_blow.html
Yes indeed, perhaps Betelgeuse should blow our socks off, with one
hell of a nova as it becomes a fairly substantial white dwarf or
possibly turns into a neutron star, especially soon if there's an
ongoing shrinkage of 1%/year (actually it has already taken place as
of more than 500 years ago).
Here’s my further revised/edited version of stellar timelines that’ll
offer some alternative interpretation as to the recent birth and life
of the Sirius star/solar system, and of this process most likely
having impacted our relatively nearby and passive solar system.
Our sun supposedly consumes or burns through 4.28e9 kg/sec? (or rather
its more like burning through and otherwise tossing away <3e12 kg/sec,
and perhaps even 4e12 kg/sec if taking less than 12 billion years of
its stellar life to become a white dwarf). Supposedly within another
4 billion years our sun will be noticeably expanding, and by 7.5
billion from now it should have become a full blown red giant of at
least 250 radii before the shrinkage and helium flashover into
becoming a white dwarf of no larger than Mars.
The original Sirius B of perhaps 8+ solar masses had an extremely
short timeline up until reaching its recent white dwarf phase, as
having obtained this status at least a thousand times faster stellar
evolution than our sun reaching it’s white dwarf phase within roughly
250e9 years (in other words, at 4.28e9 kg/sec our sun is almost never
going to die off unless something extremely large smacks into it). On
the other nearby hand, Sirius B may have evolved within as little as
200 million years before having become the white dwarf as of perhaps
64 million years ago.
Sirius B had to burn through its fuel and toss mass at <4e16 kg/sec
In other words, having to consume roughly 8 times as much mass in as
little as 1/60th the time is what has to represent an extremely
vibrant neighbor (as nearly exploding or slow nova kind of star),
especially along with the original of Sirius A at perhaps 3 solar mass
and Sirius C at whatever it started out as perhaps worth <1 solar
mass, all together is representing one heck of a great deal of stellar
mass burning and CMEs of sufficient stellar volumes of mostly hydrogen
and helium mass.
Now that’s a seriously hot star system that’s sharing loads of
substantial hard-X-rays and gamma, taking place at perhaps less than
10 light years from us, while the red supergiant phase and its helium
flashover (aka slow nova) into becoming the little white dwarf as
happening even closer to us, and perhaps closer yet if there’s any
barycenter orbital considerations due to the original molecular cloud
of at least 1.2e6 solar masses that had to exist as of 250~350 million
years ago.
Our Earth and moon are also each losing mass, and at the very least we
are losing 1e3 kg/sec, combined with the 3e12 kg/sec that our sun is
losing, given the persistent 350~450 km/s of solar wind that’s pushing
upon us (not to mention the added force of halo CMEs), is suggesting
it’s most likely this gradual loss of such gravity and the unavoidable
reduction in tidal radius is what’s causing the majority of our
extremely gradual recession away from the sun.
This could actually become a good thing, especially if we somehow
manage to artificially cause Earth and our moon combined to lose <1e4
kg/sec, while our sun keeps getting more into the IR spectrum that’ll
eventually become an inflated red giant of <250 times radii, along
with fluctuation affects and the increased loss of mass reaching out
nearly to Mars radii, means that Earth needs to get as far away form
our sun as possible, and the sooner the better.
Nothing all that much to worry about: (as long as our fading
geomagnetic force doesn’t entirely fail us)
http://spaceweather.gmu.edu/index_files/cme.jpg
http://users.aber.ac.uk/azb/images/lasco-c2-cme.jpg
http://www.astronomycast.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/cme.jpg
http://soho.nascom.nasa.gov/gallery/images/large/suncombo1_prev.jpg
http://ct.gsfc.nasa.gov/insights/vol13/tele.htm
Btw, Sirius A has most likely gone through nearly 30% of it’s original
mass, and is about to become an impressive red supergiant of its very
own once exceeding 33% via consumption and CME losses, especially with
a nearby Sirius B sucking the hydrogen life out of Sirius A, as such
isn’t exactly retarding this process.
Of course, within the next million years there’ll be considerably less
magnetosphere and insufficient terrestrial resources for Eden/Earth to
sustain much other than robust bugs, microbes and spores of whatever
we once had been. That million years is actually a very short cosmic
amount of time, so not to worry about such matters is best, even
though advancing technology could help salvage our otherwise certain
demise. Too bad the previous million years of terrestrial life had
been so wasted, and otherwise perhaps better luck next time unless
BradGuth
>
> news:028e3175-f42e-47e3...@o20g2000vbh.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Jun 6, 1:46 pm, Saul Levy <saulle...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >> Since Paine isn't here: The Earth's orbit increases in size by SIX
> >> INCHES PER YEAR!
>
> >> See:
> >>http://www.skyandtelescope.com/community/skyblog/newsblog/46618862.html
>
> >> Why? Tidal interactions just like the Moon's orbit is also increasing
> >> by less than TWO INCHES PER YEAR.
>
> >> Saul Levy
>
> > Thanks, Saul. I have long wondered and speculated as to whether this
> > was happening.
>
In spite of whatever our resident rabbi and others of his Kosher type
spew from between their mainstream infomercial flapping butt-cheeks,
you are as per usual mostly correct, in that the earth-sun tidal
interaction if causing whatever perceived orbital recession is
extremely minor, whereas the ongoing loss of at least 1e12 kg/sec is
not so minor.
In order for that main sequence red giant phase to begin within 7.5
billion years, our sun of 12 billion years worth would have had to
have been consuming plus CME losing a combined average mass of at
least 1e12 kg/sec (1000 million tonnes/sec), and otherwise the more
than likely requirement for an average loss of 2e12 kg/sec (2000
million tonnes/sec) seems a whole lot closer to the truth, whereas
2e12 kg/sec represents a more respectable 12 billion year accumulated
loss of 33.3% from an original solar mass of 2.27e30 kg down to the
1.51 solar red giant mass, which by some estimates may still represent
an insufficient rate of losing hydrogen mass in order to bring on that
bloated red giant phase.
If our red giant phase is coming any sooner than 7.5 billion years
from now, simply adjust the rate of average mass loss to suit, such as
<3e12 kg/sec or whatever qualifies within that window of time as given
for the stellar birth to red giant.
Unless my math is wrong (wouldn’t be the first time), or that a given
main sequence star simply doesn’t have to burn through nearly as much
of its hydrogen as we’ve been told, whereas it seems that perhaps
we’ve been systematically misinformed about how much hydrogen mass a
given main sequence star has to consume and/or blow off before going
into its red giant phase. Therefore our sun may actually require this
depletion rate of 2e12 kg/s in order to have burned and otherwise
blown off sufficient hydrogen, helium and a few other elements of mass
within its maximum 12 billion year cycle, or perhaps <3e12 kg/sec for
a given 9 billion year life cycle before becoming that red giant.
Now try to imagine how much mass Sirius B (if originally <9 solar
mass) had to have been going through (say 250 million years is worth
<1e15 kg/sec?), and Sirius A for the past 300 million years has been
using and losing at the rate of perhaps 1e14 kg/sec.
Of further interest is the original molecular cloud that gave such
births to Sirius ABC (<12.5 solar mass) had to be worth at least
1.25e5 solar masses, if not 1.25e6 solar masses as of just 300 million
years ago and nearby. So, where exactly is the remaining 99.999% of
this terrific cloud, and why was our solar system supposedly never
affected by any of this nearby cosmic activity?
~ BG
Double-A
When was the last time you were down to Seattle for a quality cup of
coffee?
Double-A
BradGuth
Usually I go up(north) to Seattle. As of lately it's getting down to
once a month or so, and because it's costing more gas plus just for
going over the new bridge means that I can't afford that Seattle cup
of coffee anymore.
Are you buying?
~ BG
Double-A
Maybe after this depression is over I'll be buying.
Someday when I'm back "in the money"!
http://podblanc.com/were-in-the-money-gold-diggers-1933
Double-A
BradGuth
>
> Maybe after this depression is over I'll be buying.
>
> Someday when I'm back "in the money"!
>
> http://podblanc.com/were-in-the-money-gold-diggers-1933
>
> Double-A
The good news, we can't drop much further without falling entirely off
the edge of Earth. So, up we go, and only better days ahead.
~ BG
Saul Levy
lmfjao!
They SPLIT IT IN HALF! Bad idea by the way. I'm still trying to
understand how PLASMA can SPLIT THE MOON IN HALF! The WIRE paid out
behind the final rocket was a TOTAL JOKE!
This should be a WACKO ALERT!
Maybe that FAKE SCIENCE should be sent to VENUS to do the same thing?
Another bad idea.
We'll see if the BORG living there can STOP THEM!
BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Saul Levy
Josee
> Since Paine isn't here: The Earth's orbit increases in size by SIX
> INCHES PER YEAR!
>
> See:http://www.skyandtelescope.com/community/skyblog/newsblog/46618862.html
>
> Why? Tidal interactions just like the Moon's orbit is also increasing
> by less than TWO INCHES PER YEAR.
>
> Saul Levy
smart Earth
BradGuth
Saul Levy
I just HAD to say that!
Saul Levy
BradGuth
I'm sorry. Are you not quite a 5th grader? (can't do basic math?)
~ BG
BradGuth
Gravity Force of Attraction (orbital tidal radius)
http://www.1728.com/gravity.htm
http://www.wsanford.com/~wsanford/calculators/gravity-calculator.html
current (sun ~ earth) gravitational force of attraction:
1.989e30 and 5.974e24 kg at 1.496e11 m = 3.541e22 N
Add or subtract whatever mass to either orb, and do the math for
yourself, or at the very least use either of those gravity force
calculators.
Our sun has been using up and otherwise tossing away via CME plasma
somewhere between 2e12 and 3e12 kg/sec. Why shouldn't Earth be moving
away from this sun of ours, as based almost entirely upon the orbital
laws of physics that pertain to mass?
~ BG
Warhol
> Since Paine isn't here: The Earth's orbit increases in size by SIX
> INCHES PER YEAR!
>
> See:http://www.skyandtelescope.com/community/skyblog/newsblog/46618862.html
>
> Why? Tidal interactions just like the Moon's orbit is also increasing
> by less than TWO INCHES PER YEAR.
>
> Saul Levy
and you Arsehol didn't believe when I told here that the planet is
growing... and now you shills claim up what we have said here years
ago... is that you wanted me death to steal my holy work....
I will remember ye what I had claimed here in this group Five years
ago...
THIS IS IT...
34. Warhol
Very simple, Kepler law Planets are Living and growing Body's, When
they become bigger the distance becomes greater with the sun. Let say
that the trajectory of planets is as music LP, only it starts turning
from the center to the boards of the disk. And how older the planets
are how bigger and farther they are from the sun, till they become a
Sun and generating new planets. As the mother sun, Sirius is a star
born from our sun. Long long long times ago. And man was already here
on this solar system and else where in the Galaxy. I can even say that
some Moorish tribes went already to colonize the Sirius solar system,
long times ago. Moons are dead planets as I said before, Once they
don't grow anymore they stay on the same trajectory, till the next
living body pass next to that dead planet and attract it as an moon. A
planet can only be a planet if there was a collusion with a comet. The
condition needed to have the four Elements. Earth, Fire, Water, Air.
And all this is the Alchemy of ALLAH That's from the Koran No need for
space travel to know that. Read the bible and You will know the moon
will leave soon our planet. The day when the earth will stand still
for a few days. And this is not a joke. http://new.jpdawson.com/joshua.html
The commander in chief of Spaceship Earth.
Sheriff Hassane Ben Ali Mesbah
The King of Astronomy said it First....
Dec 28 2004, 6:34 am
http://preview.tinyurl.com/HereSaulthatwhattheysteal
I am curios how you will repley... Can you say that I am the greatest,
because I have Told here long times ago and evil shills declared...
Warhol
> On Jun 6, 5:46 pm, Saul Levy <saulle...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Since Paine isn't here: The Earth's orbit increases in size by SIX
> > INCHES PER YEAR!
>
> > See:http://www.skyandtelescope.com/community/skyblog/newsblog/46618862.html
>
> > Why? Tidal interactions just like the Moon's orbit is also increasing
> > by less than TWO INCHES PER YEAR.
>
> from you, sir! :P
>
> I hope Earth vanishes by losing mass by the tons before it reaches
> Pluto... :)
Me Neither... I believe thats why Saul wanted to see me death... so he
wont to have to Silver as tribute...
http://24carat.co.uk/images/1329morocco1911tendirhamsobv240.JPG
Warhol
sun... thats means that soon it will be too cold on this world to
sustain life... WE ALL ARE GOING TO DIE OUT since we are stuck in this
low fallen world... if that aint Doom and Gloom Hah... do try to play
Warhol maybe... Ha ha ha ha ha
I told you so many time Prepare my Silver or DIE
Thats the silver Gran'Da'Dy used to Collect his tribute
http://24carat.co.uk/images/1329morocco1911tendirhamsobv240.JPG
have seen what star was used on our holy Pirate Coins???
Right the Star of Warhol and not the star of the Yids...
On Jun 7, 11:03 pm, Saul Levy <saulle...@cox.net> wrote:
> What DOOM AND GLOOM?
>
> Saul Levy
>
> On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 12:33:58 -0700 (PDT), namekuseijin
Warhol
<luigicase...@anyspamrefusediol.it> wrote:
> "Saul Levy" <saulle...@cox.net> ha scritto nel messaggionews:3skl259p694a7gq0i...@4ax.com...
>
> > INCHES PER YEAR!
>
> > See:
> >http://www.skyandtelescope.com/community/skyblog/newsblog/46618862.html
>
> > Why? Tidal interactions just like the Moon's orbit is also increasing
> > by less than TWO INCHES PER YEAR.
>
>
> Well, do I have to worry about it?
> Maybe moving away from the Sun is good to avoid global warming.
> But 6 inches per year is not enough to switch off my air conditioner... :-)
>
> Luigi Caselli
we will freeze to death... like the people of Mars have frozen to
death and became green... Why we call Martians green man, they have
frozen their arse till gran'da'dy collected his silver and saved them
by his star gate to this world...
Right some of us here on this world are the Martians...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_green_men
they where green because their world was to far away to receive the
needed solar energy... why man in the future has to Venus... but how
will do that if he even can't go the moon... the great question... how
can we get away from a Doomed world?
Warhol
> On Jun 9, 8:33 am, "Luigi Caselli" <luigicase...@anyspamrefusediol.it>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
> > On Jun 8, 3:13 pm, "Luigi Caselli"
>
> > > Well, do I have to worry about it?
> > > Maybe moving away from the Sun is good to avoid global warming.
> > > But 6 inches per year is not enough to switch off my air conditioner...
> > :-)
>
> > > Luigi Caselli
> > >you're set for life, and haven't a bone of remorse to worry about.
> > >Good for you.
>
> > Well, these days I'm worrying about everything and global warming is not
> > more urgent than paying my taxes... :-(
>
> > Luigi Caselli
>
> Like I said, the next generations get to pay for everything and then
> some (plus interest). As long as your butt isn't on the line, who
> cares about the other guy or whatever future generations that are
> screwed because of your actions/inactions.
>
> ~ BG
if they dont pay silver they are gone to become like the Martians...
GREEN of the cold till they freeze to death for their SINS... thats
when man will receive his last law
BradGuth
>
> The commander in chief of Spaceship Earth.
> Sheriff Hassane Ben Ali Mesbah
>
> The King of Astronomy said it First....
>
> Dec 28 2004, 6:34 am
>
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/HereSaulthatwhattheysteal
>
> I am curios how you will repley... Can you say that I am the greatest,
> because I have Told here long times ago and evil shills declared...
That's a bit too weird, even for you.
~ BG
BradGuth
It must be past your bedtime.
~ BG
Warhol
fanfabulous as always...
Warhol
i smell doom
BradGuth
Hold on, as eventually Earth is going to get nailed, though it may not
be by way of God.
~ BG
Warhol
Care to explain?
BradGuth
If God were tossing those big ugly rocks/asteroids at us, do you think
he'd miss?
~ BG
Warhol
What you think??? I say You better pay tribute or DIE... Miss or not
miss... I want My Silver.
Saul Levy
It's more like UNholy work. The work of that DEVIL which is eating up
your BRAIN!
The only reason to want you DEAD is because you are EVIL!
Saul Levy
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:31:38 -0700 (PDT), Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
BradGuth
I bet you and others of your forever doom and gloom kind do. Good
luck with that tactic.
Stay tuned for yet another divine threat, whereas only the most rich
and powerful get to avoid the wrath of our Lord, because they is the
only ones capable of paying their fair share of silver.
Would this God of ours accept my IOU?
~ BG
Saul Levy
GOOFBALL! lmfjao!
BAD AIM! THEY KEEP MISSING!
BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Saul Levy
On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 11:44:45 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>If God were tossing those big ugly rocks/asteroids at us, do you think
Warhol
I am Not Arnold... I get payed in silver...
and not in what ever silver... it must carry the Seal of Raisuli...
the Last High Priest of the Barbary Lands...
http://24carat.co.uk/images/1313morocco18941895silverdirhamobv400.jpg
And try to never forget that we the Barbarians wrote "We the People"
of the Americans...
I am the only friend Americans ever got, the oldste friend... and Not
the English, Not the French, Not the Spaniards, Not Saudians, Not
Turks, Not Japanese and surly Not Yids...
You share white Gran'Da'Dy or you DIE... OUI wil not be marked in the
sacred book of Life... and will be send to the great Lake.
Warhol
Ghole...
its always your choice not to believe the Cham'pion...
On Jul 5, 1:04 am, Saul Levy <saulle...@cox.net> wrote:
> Well, we do know that sappy'pappy and PIGSHIT aren't doing it,
> GOOFBALL! lmfjao!
>
> BAD AIM! THEY KEEP MISSING!
>
> BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
> Saul Levy
>
> On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 11:44:45 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com>
BradGuth
>
> I am the only friend Americans ever got, the oldste friend... and Not
> the English, Not the French, Not the Spaniards, Not Saudians, Not
> Turks, Not Japanese and surly Not Yids...
>
> You share white Gran'Da'Dy or you DIE... OUI wil not be marked in the
> sacred book of Life... and will be send to the great Lake.
Unlike our resident rabbi and perpetual naysayer, I have lots to
share.
~ BG
Saul Levy
I thought you were SHARING telling him to FUCK OFF?
Saul Levy
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 05:31:50 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>Unlike our resident rabbi and perpetual naysayer, I have lots to
>share.
>
> ~ BG