What is a Spinic? (Spin Doctoring Propagandic Cynic)
Edmond Wollmann
skepticism concept and attempts to belittle a paradigm or area of
interest without investigation, knowledge, or study of any sort. This is
bigotry, not skepticism. Propaganda is then "spun" against the
paradigm/person and they are religiously and zealously defamed
(evidenced by the multitude of defamation sites under my name-none of
which evidence any truth whatever). The individual or groups then hold
dogmatically onto their fallacious refutation despite all discrediting,
academic refutation, or current/past acceptance by a large majority of
said paradigm by the populace. This is called religion.
Spinic's actions betray their stated goals of "skepticism" by the
malicious defamation they perpetrate. Their continued hounding and
defamation of those they are bigoted against continues unabated despite
evidence of the validity and value of the paradigms they seek to
denigrate, from their bigotry not logic. Their psychological denial of
facts, refutations, and evidenced constructiveness of the paradigms they
seek to denigrate only evidences their own insecurity and intellectual
deficiency. Ignored are the rights, dignity, choice or desire for
preference of the individuals/groups they seek to destroy through this
propagandic spin and defamation.
The indices listed below are valid referenced academic areas of accepted
knowledge that refutes and describes the fallacious and defective
arguments of the typical spinic's attempts to "color" their defamation
as "argument" or disagreement.
CYNIC=From the Greek kynikos, -doglike, churlish. Philos. one of a sect
of ancient Greek philosophers who taught that pleasure is an evil if
sought for its own sake, and made an ostentatious show of contempt for
riches and enjoyment.; sneering faultfinder; one who disbelieves in the
goodness of human motives, and who is given to displaying his disbelief
by sneers and sarcasm-cynicism=the practice of a cynic; a morose
contempt of the pleasures and arts in life. Lexicon/Webster
Ig no rant=Deficient of knowledge of either general information or a
specific field; uninformed; untaught; unenlightened-ignorance, the state
of being ignorant, or of lacking knowledge; the condition of not being
cognizant or aware of. Lexicon/Webster..between ignoramus and ignore.
Bigot=a person intolerant of creeds, opinions etc. other than his own.
(Webster College Dict.)
Case # 3,539,081
Conclusion-cynical and unable to acknowledge larger frameworks within
which fragmented knowledge fits.
Psych-Inferiority, persistent feeling that one does not measure up to
societal standards and personal fictional standards. Ego lock on
physicality and the belief that only psychic material accessible to
egoistic functions is "real."
Habitual responses. Inability for holistic cognitions.
Philo-The desire to participate in emotivism and the inability to remove
such judgments. Begging the question vicious and cyclic argumentation
which denies purposeful existence other than to prove pointlessness.
Fear that existence is pointless and construct development to reinforce
this conclusion. Pleasure derived from invalidating arguments that
inspire and improve the human condition.
Inability to understand coherence theory of truth. Inability to
understand the pragmatic theory of truth.
Frequently indulges in the logical defect fallacies of;
"Fallacy of suppressed evidence"The requirement of a true premises
includes the proviso that the premises not ignore some important piece
of evidence that outweighs the presented evidence and entails a very
different conclusion.
"Red Herring" fallacy="The red herring fallacy is committed when the
arguer diverts the attention of the reader by changing the subject to
some totally different issue.
"Missing the point" another fallacy of relevance-The conclusion of the
argument is irrelevant to the premises. "Missing the point illustrates a
special form of irrelevance. This fallacy occurs when the premises of an
argument support one particular conclusion, but then a different
conclusion, often vaguely related to the correct conclusion is drawn.
"Begging the question" occurs when an arguer uses some form of
phraseology that tends to conceal the questionably true character of a
key premise. If the reader or the listener is deceived into thinking
that a key premise is true, he or she will accept the argument as sound,
when in fact, it may not be.
"Appeal to the People" (Argumentum ad Populum)
Nearly everyone wants to be loved, esteemed, admired, valued, recog-
nized, and accepted by others. The appeal to the people uses these
desires to get the reader or listener to accept a conclusion. Two
approaches are involved, one of them direct, the other indirect.
The direct approach occurs when an arguer, addressing a large group of
people, excites the emotions and enthusiasm of the crowd to win
acceptance for his conclusion. The objective is to arouse a kind of mob
mentality. (the usenet group alt.usenet.kooks is used solely for this
defect).
Their favorite and highly relied upon one is called "Argument Against
the Person" (Argumentum ad Hominem)
This fallacy always involves two arguers. One of them advances (either
directly or implicitly) a certain argument, and the other then responds
by directing his or her attention not to the first person's argument but
to the first person himself. When this occurs, the second person is said
to commit an argument against the person.
"Bandwagon Argument" A variety of the "Appeal to the people" fallacy
that occurs when the arguer plays on the reader's or listener's need to
feel a part of the group (or to down another group). In the indirect
approach the arguer directs his or her appeal not to the crowd as a
whole but to one or more individuals separately, focusing upon some
aspect of their relationship to the crowd. The indirect approach
includes such specific forms as the bandwagon argument, the appeal to
vanity, and the appeal to snobbery. All are standard techniques of the
advertising industry. Here is an example of the bandwagon argument;
"Of course you will want to buy Zest toothpaste. Why, 90% of America
brushes with Zest."
Or
"Of course you will want to demean and defame Edmond Wollmann. Why, 90%
of alt.usenet kooks (not even 1% of usenet) voted him a kook."
Because spinics will try to discredit THESE accepted delineations, it
should be noted these definitions are taken from an academic work used
in colleges and Universities, Logic, 4th Edition Hurley, University of
San Diego, Wadsworth Publishing, 1991, page 128, "Informal Fallacies".
Sci-Participates in repeated inductive generalizations. Materialism
focused and rigid. Believes that because information not cognizable by
the ego self, it must not exist, delusional and inability for rigorous
investigation prior to conclusions. Projects that "others" are guilty of
this.
Conclusion-Perspective alteration necessary. Insists on misery and
negativity in order to resist the slightest appearance of a
relinquishment of control-which inadvertently reinforces inferiority
feelings. Denial. No known remediation at this point. Likelihood of
future crisis in perspective great.
Mature individuals can agree to disagree and recognize that often
disagreements simply boil down to preferences. There is no one truth,
except that the truth is the composition of all truths.
Analytical discernment begs for efficiency. I therefore respectfully beg
to differ with spinics and offer sincere success in their future search
for truths (should they decide to act on their preferences and stop
trying to defeat others preferences).
There is no one truth EXCEPT that THE truth is the composition of all
truths. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence-it may be a
difference in root assumptions.
My particular "Universes of inquiry" are psychology and astrology, I
respect all inquiry and the paradigms that articulate them.
Paradigms form from sets of beliefs and assumptions. To clarify the idea
of paradigms here is a quote from experimentation in abnormal psychology
taken from Thomas Kuhn's view, author of the widely acknowledged "The
Structure Of Scientific Revolutions";
"We believe every effort should be made to study abnormal behavior
according to scientific principles. It should be clear at this point
however, that science is NOT a completely objective and certain
enterprise. Rather, as we can infer by the comment from Kuhn, subjective
factors, as well as limitations in our perspective on the universe,
enter into the conduct of scientific enquiry. Central to any application
of scientific principles, in Kuhn's view, is the concept of a paradigm,
a conceptual framework or approach within which a scientist works. A
paradigm according to Kuhn, is a set of basic assumptions that outline
the PARTICULAR UNIVERSE OF SCIENTIFIC ENQUIRY..." (my emphasis)
In addition to injecting inevitable biases into the definition and
collection of data, a paradigm may also affect the interpretation of
facts. In other words, the meaning or import given to data may depend to
a considerable extent on a paradigm.
University of Southern California", State University of New York"
Davidson and Neale, 6th edition, 1996. Wiley and sons publishers.
"The decision to employ a particular piece of apparatus
and to use it in a particular way carries with it an assumption that
only certain sorts of circumstances will arise.
Normal science research is a strenuous and devoted attempt
to force nature into the conceptual boxes supplied by the professional
education. Anomalies are disregarded because they do not articulate the
paradigm" (Thomas Kuhn).
Or as Einstein said "It is the theory that determines what we observe."
In short paradigmatical definitions (beliefs) can affect perception.
We don't live by logic and facts we live by trust-if you disagree with
this premise, provide the factual basis and logical reason and/or
purposes for living. If you can't produce any I suggest you stop living
because there is no evidence or "facts" available to justify and
quantify doing it anymore.
"Integrity without knowledge is weak and useless, and knowledge without
integrity is dangerous and dreadful" Samuel Johnson
Skeptic=One who doubts the truth of any principle or system of
principles or doctrines. Questioning in the search for truth.
Cynic=a sneering faultfinder; one who disbelieves in the goodness of
human motives, and who is given to displaying his disbelief by sneers
and sarcasm.
Spinic=A disingenuous fault-finding and spin-doctoring bigot, who does
not investigate anything realistically before attempting to denigrate
it. A person who has 0 insight into their own beliefs, psychology and
defective logical thinking processes that EVOKES, and is responsible
for, 99% of their predjudice and obsession with that which they fear a
possibility.
"Knowledge is proud that he has learned so much;
Wisdom is humble that he knows no more"
William Cowper "The Task bk vi", "The Winter Walk at Noon"
Woodenheaded thinking="assessing a situation in terms of preconceived
fixed notions while ignoring or rejecting any contrary signs" (Tuchman,
1984, p. 7).
"On Pseudo-Skepticism" -- Marcello Truzzi
One of CSICOP's founders exposes his former compeers.
http://www.cloud9.net/~patrick/anomalist/pseudo.html
"True Disbelievers: Mars Effect Drives Skeptics to Irrationality" --
Rich
Kammann
http://www.primenet.com/~lippard/kammann.html
"CSICOP and the Skeptics: An Overview" -- George Hansen
Sociological study of the organization; why they instituted their policy
*against* conducting scientific investigations.
ftp://ftp.rutgers.edu/pub/ufo/csicop-and-skeptic
Part 2:
ftp://ftp.rutgers.edu/pub/ufo/csicop-and-skeptic.2
"Myths of Skepticism" -- Michael Sofka
Common misconceptions skeptics have.
http://www.rpi.edu/~sofkam/talk/talk.html
"The Astronomer Who Abolished Gravity" -- Robert Anton Wilson
In Carl Sagan's debunking of Dr. Velikovsky, he omitted one minor factor
from his calculations: gravity.
http://www.tcp.com/~prime8/raw/trigger3.html
"Extraordinary Claim? Move the Goal Posts!" -- Patrick Huyghe
How science works, or doesn't.
http://www.cloud9.net/~patrick/anomalist/goal.html
"CSICOP Scare!" -- Dennis Stacy
http://www.cloud9.net/~patrick/anomalist/csicop.html
"Robert A. Baker's Unattributed Copying" -- Lippard
Copyright violations and plagiarism by a prominent skeptic.
http://www.primenet.com/~lippard/Bakerreport.txt
"A New Case of Scientific Serendipity?" -- "Diogenes, Jr." (Marcello
Truzzi) Satire on Robert Baker's plagiarism.
http://www.primenet.com/~lippard/baker-diogenes.html
"Response to Martin Gardner's Attack on Reich and Orgone Research in the
_Skeptical Inquirer_" -- James DeMeo
http://id.mind.net/community/orgonelab/gardner.htm
"Zen and the Art of Debunkery" -- Daniel Drasin
Satire of typical skeptical manoeuvers.
http://www.eskimo.com/~billb/pathskep.html
"Sceptic's Can't Play Ball" -- Jenny Randles
Various misdeeds of the local skeptics.
http://www.citadel.co.uk/citadel/eclipse/futura/bufora/times/randles/scept
ic.htm
"Debunkeritis -- A Partial List" -- Jerome Clark
Satire.
http://www.ufobbs.com/txt4/3256.ufo
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
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Daedalus
wrote:
>A spinic is a bigoted and biased person/group who hides behind the
>skepticism concept and attempts to belittle a FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRT!
Fuck off, you whiny little spamming cunt.
Jade
Spåmster
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> A spinic is a
Moronic made up word used by defeated kooks.
Arcturian One
> A spinic is a bigoted and biased
pejorative applied to people that rightfully call Ed Wollmann a fucking
kook.
You know, if a Spinic is a Spin Doctoring Propagandic Cynic, it should
be a SpidoPronic.
I would like that term applied to me personally, if you can manage it.
Dan Baldwin
>
>
> Mature individuals
don't stamp their feet and whine in abuse groups just because other
posters disagree with them.
They also tend not to let their own reckless disregard for safety
endanger other people (passengers in a car, say).
--
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I am a minion of Satan, but my powers are mainly administrative.
Hail the un-alive
Phoenix
alcha...@yahoo.com (Edmond Wollmann) wrote:
> A spinic is a
...word made up by you, not listed in any dictionary on earth.
Keera Ann Fox
> Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> > A spinic is a bigoted and biased
>
> pejorative applied to people that rightfully call Ed Wollmann a fucking
> kook.
>
> You know, if a Spinic is a Spin Doctoring Propagandic Cynic, it should
> be a SpidoPronic.
The crew of the starship Enterprise never had one of those, I'm sure!
> I would like that term applied to me personally, if you can manage it.
Can I be one, too? Huh? Can I? Can I? Pleeeeeeeze?
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Wollmann <alcha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> A spinic is a FLUSH
-- stupid term you made up.
"Whaaaaaa Mommy! Spinics again! Whaaaaa!"
Do you ever tire of poasting the same screed over and over?
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Wollmann posted:
> A spinic is a bigoted and biased person/group who hides behind the
> skepticism concept and attempts to belittle a paradigm or area of interest
> without investigation, knowledge, or study of any sort.
So you conclude Alexa Cameron is a "spinic"?
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and quantum mechanics:
"They are beaming earth with EMR which is interfering with natural human PSI
abilities, which is likely quantum."
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Daedalus
<gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com>, wrote:
>Being tired of lurking, on Thu, 20 May 2004 09:34:40 -0700, Edmond
>Wollmann posted:
>
>> A spinic is a bigoted and biased person/group who hides behind the
>> skepticism concept and attempts to belittle a paradigm or area of interest
>> without investigation, knowledge, or study of any sort.
>
>So you conclude Alexa Cameron is a "spinic"?
I thought kooks were supposed to stick together.
Jade
Scalar
Who knew men and their amazing extraterrestrial flying machine at Groom Lake
would destroy the human race and blame it on someone else other than
themselves?
>
>Jade
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"Scalar" <g...@dom.com> wrote in message
news:a24qa0pj0me6cfftq...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 20 May 2004 20:07:54 GMT, Daedalus <jad...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> >On 20 May 2004 19:45:28 GMT, "Dr. Flonkenstein"
> ><gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com>, wrote:
> >
> >>Being tired of lurking, on Thu, 20 May 2004 09:34:40 -0700, Edmond
> >>Wollmann posted:
> >>
> >>> A spinic is a bigoted and biased person/group who hides behind the
> >>> skepticism concept and attempts to belittle a paradigm or area of
interest
> >>> without investigation, knowledge, or study of any sort.
> >>
> >>So you conclude Alexa Cameron is a "spinic"?
> >
> >I thought kooks were supposed to stick together.
>
> Who knew men and their amazing extraterrestrial flying machine at Groom
Lake
> would destroy the human race and blame it on someone else other than
> themselves?
Who knew that the Aliens were actually destroying the human
race and were mind-controlling Alexa Cameron into using the
'Scalar' 'nym in order to blame it on someone else other than
themselves?
ESL!
--
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Kazoo Konspirator #668 (The Neighbor of the Beast)
We're not laughing _with_ bRay!
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Dr. Flonkenstein
> On Thu, 20 May 2004 20:07:54 GMT, Daedalus <jad...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>>On 20 May 2004 19:45:28 GMT, "Dr. Flonkenstein"
>><gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com>, wrote:
>>
>>>Being tired of lurking, on Thu, 20 May 2004 09:34:40 -0700, Edmond
>>>Wollmann posted:
>>>
>>>> A spinic is a bigoted and biased person/group who hides behind the
>>>> skepticism concept and attempts to belittle a paradigm or area of
>>>> interest without investigation, knowledge, or study of any sort.
>>>
>>>So you conclude Alexa Cameron is a "spinic"?
>>
>>I thought kooks were supposed to stick together.
>
> Who knew men and their amazing extraterrestrial flying machine at Groom
> Lake would destroy the human race and blame it on someone else other than
> themselves?
>>
Wollman, after he will have postdicted the event in one of these reply
cycles?
Arcturian One
> Arcturian One <apex...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>>
>>
>>>A spinic is a bigoted and biased
>>
>>pejorative applied to people that rightfully call Ed Wollmann a fucking
>>kook.
>>
>>You know, if a Spinic is a Spin Doctoring Propagandic Cynic, it should
>>be a SpidoPronic.
>
>
> The crew of the starship Enterprise never had one of those, I'm sure!
>
>
>>I would like that term applied to me personally, if you can manage it.
>
>
> Can I be one, too? Huh? Can I? Can I? Pleeeeeeeze?
>
You would be a SpidoPronicess!
Bookman
"Edmond Wollmann" <alcha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:35325a08.04052...@posting.google.com...
> A spinic is a
Person who makes widdle Eddiieeeee Wollboyy cwy
because they destroy his widdle fantasies with facts, and
bring to light his ko0ky and unethical behavior.
Enjoy your AFAB Awards Nominations, Eddieeeeee!
A ko0k like you deserves it!
KTHXBY!!!
Clave
news:35325a08.04052...@posting.google.com...
>
...made-up word Dr. Seuss would have been ashamed to have used. Don Martin too,
FTM.
HTH, HAND,
Jim
Mr. 4X
news:35325a08.04052...@posting.google.com:
> A spinic is a bigoted and biased person/group who
confronts Wollkook with the fact that his screeds are crap.
Mr. 4X
message news:pan.2004.05.20....@hotmail.com:
> Being tired of lurking, on Thu, 20 May 2004 09:34:40 -0700, Edmond
> Wollmann posted:
>
>> A spinic is a bigoted and biased person/group who hides behind the
>> skepticism concept and attempts to belittle a paradigm or area of
>> interest without investigation, knowledge, or study of any sort.
>
> So you conclude Alexa Cameron is a "spinic"?
I don't think that Alexa CaMORON 'hides behind the skepticism concept'.
Cujo DeSockpuppet
> A spinic is a
word made up by Edmo the Uberkook.
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Dr. Flonkenstein
But it can't be denied she "belittles a paradigm or area of
interest without investigation, knowledge, or study of any sort".
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
in alt.fan.art-bell in message
<jhopa0pftpepb4glc...@4ax.com>:
May I be in agreement with this poast?
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<pp3qa09mrrsvtqskp...@4ax.com>:
You have to spray 'em down with Pam.
Dr. Flonkenstein
Gorilla (Monkey Boy) posted:
> On Thu, 20 May 2004 20:07:54 GMT, Daedalus <jad...@my-deja.com> wrote in
> alt.fan.art-bell in message
> <pp3qa09mrrsvtqskp...@4ax.com>:
>
>>On 20 May 2004 19:45:28 GMT, "Dr. Flonkenstein"
>><gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com>, wrote:
>>
>>>Being tired of lurking, on Thu, 20 May 2004 09:34:40 -0700, Edmond
>>>Wollmann posted:
>>>
>>>> A spinic is a bigoted and biased person/group who hides behind the
>>>> skepticism concept and attempts to belittle a paradigm or area of
>>>> interest without investigation, knowledge, or study of any sort.
>>>
>>>So you conclude Alexa Cameron is a "spinic"?
>>
>>I thought kooks were supposed to stick together.
>>
>>Jade
>
> You have to spray 'em down with Pam.
You have to gray 'em down with Yam.
> --
> V.G.
>
> Change pobox dot alaska to gci.
> "I are so sure of yourself don't you .. (ehe ehe ehe)" - Peitro Alitardia
> (67d7a369.04040...@posting.google.com) "No doubt about it, 9-11
> was orchestrated by Lockheed." - *lexa 'connects the dots'
> (cg5t80pl73d7r1s81...@4ax.com) (This sig file contains not
> less than 80% recycled SPAM)
>
> Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.
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Scalar
<gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Being tired of lurking, on Thu, 20 May 2004 20:09:24 +0000, Scalar posted:
>
>> On Thu, 20 May 2004 20:07:54 GMT, Daedalus <jad...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 20 May 2004 19:45:28 GMT, "Dr. Flonkenstein"
>>><gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com>, wrote:
>>>
>>>>Being tired of lurking, on Thu, 20 May 2004 09:34:40 -0700, Edmond
>>>>Wollmann posted:
>>>>
>>>>> A spinic is a bigoted and biased person/group who hides behind the
>>>>> skepticism concept and attempts to belittle a paradigm or area of
>>>>> interest without investigation, knowledge, or study of any sort.
>>>>
>>>>So you conclude Alexa Cameron is a "spinic"?
>>>
>>>I thought kooks were supposed to stick together.
>>
>> Who knew men and their amazing extraterrestrial flying machine at Groom
>> Lake would destroy the human race and blame it on someone else other than
>> themselves?
>>>
>Wollman, after he will have postdicted the event in one of these reply
>cycles?
Cool. What do you win?
Dr. Flonkenstein
> On 20 May 2004 20:35:41 GMT, "Dr. Flonkenstein"
> <gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Being tired of lurking, on Thu, 20 May 2004 20:09:24 +0000, Scalar
>>posted:
>>
>>> On Thu, 20 May 2004 20:07:54 GMT, Daedalus <jad...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 20 May 2004 19:45:28 GMT, "Dr. Flonkenstein"
>>>><gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com>, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Being tired of lurking, on Thu, 20 May 2004 09:34:40 -0700, Edmond
>>>>>Wollmann posted:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A spinic is a bigoted and biased person/group who hides behind the
>>>>>> skepticism concept and attempts to belittle a paradigm or area of
>>>>>> interest without investigation, knowledge, or study of any sort.
>>>>>
>>>>>So you conclude Alexa Cameron is a "spinic"?
>>>>
>>>>I thought kooks were supposed to stick together.
>>>
>>> Who knew men and their amazing extraterrestrial flying machine at Groom
>>> Lake would destroy the human race and blame it on someone else other
>>> than themselves?
>>>>
>>Wollman, after he will have postdicted the event in one of these reply
>>cycles?
>
> Cool. What do you win?
Unlike you, no fancy k같k award.
Scalar
<gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Being tired of lurking, on Thu, 20 May 2004 22:30:57 +0000, Scalar posted:
>
>> On 20 May 2004 20:35:41 GMT, "Dr. Flonkenstein"
>> <gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Being tired of lurking, on Thu, 20 May 2004 20:09:24 +0000, Scalar
>>>posted:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 20 May 2004 20:07:54 GMT, Daedalus <jad...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 20 May 2004 19:45:28 GMT, "Dr. Flonkenstein"
>>>>><gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com>, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Being tired of lurking, on Thu, 20 May 2004 09:34:40 -0700, Edmond
>>>>>>Wollmann posted:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A spinic is a bigoted and biased person/group who hides behind the
>>>>>>> skepticism concept and attempts to belittle a paradigm or area of
>>>>>>> interest without investigation, knowledge, or study of any sort.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So you conclude Alexa Cameron is a "spinic"?
>>>>>
>>>>>I thought kooks were supposed to stick together.
>>>>
>>>> Who knew men and their amazing extraterrestrial flying machine at Groom
>>>> Lake would destroy the human race and blame it on someone else other
>>>> than themselves?
>>>>>
>>>Wollman, after he will have postdicted the event in one of these reply
>>>cycles?
>>
>> Cool. What do you win?
>
>Unlike you, no fancy k같k award.
But that's worthless. Don't you have anything else to offer?
Dr. Flonkenstein
Worthless, worthless????
It's either that or net.oblivion, k같k!
Scalar
<gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Both are worthless.
Dr. Flonkenstein
Yes, the awards have been adapted to those who get them :-)))
Julie
wrote:
>Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
>> A spinic is a bigoted and biased
>
>pejorative applied to people that rightfully call Ed Wollmann a fucking
>kook.
>
>You know, if a Spinic is a Spin Doctoring Propagandic Cynic, it should
>be a SpidoPronic.
>
>I would like that term applied to me personally, if you can manage it.
Spidopronic!!!!!
I loves it!!!11!!1!!!!
Julie, spidopronic bitch
Carl R. Osterwald
<g...@dom.com> wrote:
But you are now enshrined forever with the likes Kettler, Turdi, and
Fraudship:
<http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/whiners.html>
Enjoy!
Scalar
>But you are now enshrined forever with the likes Kettler, Turdi, and
>Fraudship:
All creations of Bechtel for their own means.
ELECTRONIC Remote Viewing and Mind Control:
aka Longitudinal Wave Interferometers
US Patent #3951134 (Bechtel)
http://www.delphion.com/details?pn=US03951134__
Apparatus and method for remotely monitoring and altering brain waves
Abstract
Apparatus for and method of sensing brain waves at a position remote
from a subject whereby electromagnetic signals of different
frequencies are simultaneously transmitted to the brain of the subject
in which the signals interfere with one another to yield a waveform
which is modulated by the subject's brain waves. The interference
waveform which is representative of the brain wave activity is
re-transmitted by the brain to a receiver where it is demodulated and
amplified. The demodulated waveform is then displayed for visual
viewing and routed to a computer for further processing and analysis.
The demodulated waveform also can be used to produce a compensating
signal which is transmitted back to the brain to effect a desired change in
electrical activity therein.
SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION
The present invention relates to apparatus and a method for monitoring
brain waves wherein all components of the apparatus employed are
remote from the test subject. More specifically, high frequency
transmitters are operated to radiate electromagnetic energy of
different frequencies through antennas which are capable of scanning
the entire brain of the test subject or any desired region thereof.
The signals of different frequencies penetrate the skull of the
subject and impinge upon the brain where they mix to yield an
interference wave modulated by radiations from the brain's natural
electrical activity. The modulated interference wave is re-transmitted
by the brain and received by an antenna at a remote station where it
is demodulated, and processed to provide a profile of the subject's
brain waves. In addition to passively monitoring his brain waves, the
subject's neurological processes may be affected by transmitting to
his brain, through a transmitter, compensating signals. The latter
signals can be derived from the received and processed brain waves.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl R. Osterwald
<g...@dom.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 May 2004 19:46:59 -0600, "Carl R. Osterwald" <i...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >But you are now enshrined forever with the likes Kettler, Turdi, and
> >Fraudship:
>
> All creations of Bechtel for their own means.
>
> ELECTRONIC Remote Viewing and Mind Control:
> aka Longitudinal Wave Interferometers
[kookscreed snip #6]
Scalar
>[kookscreed snip #6]
That' is precisely what Bechtel wants everyone to believe.
You're doing a fine job.
Arcturian One
> Arcturian One <apex...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Keera Ann Fox wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Arcturian One <apex...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>A spinic is a bigoted and biased
>>>>
>>>>pejorative applied to people that rightfully call Ed Wollmann a fucking
>>>>kook.
>>>>
>>>>You know, if a Spinic is a Spin Doctoring Propagandic Cynic, it should
>>>>be a SpidoPronic.
>>>
>>>
>>>The crew of the starship Enterprise never had one of those, I'm sure!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I would like that term applied to me personally, if you can manage it.
>>>
>>>
>>>Can I be one, too? Huh? Can I? Can I? Pleeeeeeeze?
>>>
>>
>>You would be a SpidoPronicess!
>
>
> Uhm, can I be something I can actually pronounce? Huh? Can I?
>
SPY-DOE-PRON-ICK-ESS!
Rhymes with "Sardonicus"!
Penas Sorus
news:35325a08.04052...@posting.google.com:
> A spinach is <whiteout> something that belongs in salad. Forgot the
"h" there didja? Missed the "a" too.
>
>
Ray is taking private wagers on how long it will take Edmo to turn a.a.m
into a smoking crater like he did a.a.m.m.
Keera Ann Fox
Nope, my tongue still trips. Could I be a SpidoPronicette? For some
reason, my tongue manages to work that one.
> Rhymes with "Sardonicus"!
I like, I like, but someone with a more talented tongue (when it comes
to words, that is) can have SpidoPronicess.
Keera Ann Fox
> X-No-Archive:Yes
> On Fri, 21 May 2004 12:59:58 +0200, ka....@online.no (Keera Ann Fox)
> wrote:
>
> snip
>
> >
> >I like, I like, but someone with a more talented tongue (when it comes
> >to words, that is) can have SpidoPronicess.
>
> Quit bragging.
I can to so tie cherry stems into knots with my tongue!
Daedalus
>Being tired of lurking, on Thu, 20 May 2004 20:09:24 +0000, Scalar posted:
>
>> On Thu, 20 May 2004 20:07:54 GMT, Daedalus <jad...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 20 May 2004 19:45:28 GMT, "Dr. Flonkenstein"
>>><gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com>, wrote:
>>>
>>>>Being tired of lurking, on Thu, 20 May 2004 09:34:40 -0700, Edmond
>>>>Wollmann posted:
>>>>
>>>>> A spinic is a bigoted and biased person/group who hides behind the
>>>>> skepticism concept and attempts to belittle a paradigm or area of
>>>>> interest without investigation, knowledge, or study of any sort.
>>>>
>>>>So you conclude Alexa Cameron is a "spinic"?
>>>
>>>I thought kooks were supposed to stick together.
>>
>> Who knew men and their amazing extraterrestrial flying machine at Groom
>> Lake would destroy the human race and blame it on someone else other than
>> themselves?
>>>
>Wollman, after he will have postdicted the event in one of these reply
>cycles?
Alexa, If you're going to talk about the multiverse in such definitive
terms, you need to consuld Edmo. He's been writing kook screed a lot
longer than you have.
He may want to claim he predicted the scalar end of the world a few
years ago.
GIVE HIM SOME TEQUILA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jade
Edmond Wollmann
> Arcturian One <apex...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Keera Ann Fox wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Arcturian One <apex...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Keera Ann Fox wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Arcturian One <apex...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>A spinic is a bigoted and biased
>>>>>>
>>>>>>pejorative applied to people that rightfully call Ed Wollmann a fucking
>>>>>>kook.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You know, if a Spinic is a Spin Doctoring Propagandic Cynic, it should
>>>>>>be a SpidoPronic.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The crew of the starship Enterprise never had one of those, I'm sure!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I would like that term applied to me personally, if you can manage it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Can I be one, too? Huh? Can I? Can I? Pleeeeeeeze?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You would be a SpidoPronicess!
>>>
>>>
>>>Uhm, can I be something I can actually pronounce? Huh? Can I?
>>>
>>
>>
>>SPY-DOE-PRON-ICK-ESS!
>
>
> Nope, my tongue still trips. Could I be a SpidoPronicette? For some
> reason, my tongue manages to work that one.
>
>
>>Rhymes with "Sardonicus"!
>
>
> I like, I like, but someone with a more talented tongue (when it comes
> to words, that is) can have SpidoPronicess.
>
SpidoPronicette it is!
Keera Ann Fox
> X-No-Archive:Yes
> On Fri, 21 May 2004 16:01:34 +0200, ka....@online.no (Keera Ann Fox)
> wrote:
>
> >House Widdershins <sini...@liripipe.com> wrote:
> >
> >> X-No-Archive:Yes
> >> On Fri, 21 May 2004 12:59:58 +0200, ka....@online.no (Keera Ann Fox)
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> snip
> >>
> >> >
> >> >I like, I like, but someone with a more talented tongue (when it comes
> >> >to words, that is) can have SpidoPronicess.
> >>
> >> Quit bragging.
> >
> >I can to so tie cherry stems into knots with my tongue!
>
> So can The Truly Evil Ms. Widdy. One of the main reasons I married
> her.
Smart man.
Keera Ann Fox
wrote:
> ka....@online.no (Keera Ann Fox) wrote:
>
> >House Widdershins <sini...@liripipe.com> wrote:
> >
> >> X-No-Archive:Yes
> >> On Fri, 21 May 2004 12:59:58 +0200, ka....@online.no (Keera Ann Fox)
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> snip
> >>
> >> >
> >> >I like, I like, but someone with a more talented tongue (when it comes
> >> >to words, that is) can have SpidoPronicess.
> >>
> >> Quit bragging.
> >
> >I can to so tie cherry stems into knots with my tongue!
>
> Have you ever been to Tampa?
No.
> bob
> - I've been to Oslo
You'd really impress me if you'd been to Bergen. Or Narvik. Or
something.
Keera Ann Fox
Thanks, ever!
--
****** Keera in Norway ******
* Think big. Shrink to fit. * SpidoPronicette!
http://home.online.no/~kafox/
Truth Monopoly
news:35325a08.04052...@posting.google.com...
> A spinic is a <snip>
A "Critical Thinker" is one who doesn't automatically accept what he/she
reads on the Internet as the gospel, and views incredible claims through the
lens of skepticism. Not only does he/she treat other's outlandish claims
with skepticism and demand proof of assertions made, but he/she prepare
his/her own material in the spirit of expecting to be met with skepticism
and welcomes peer review.
If your claims cannot withstand the criticism of those capable of critical
thought, then perhaps you should consider making them in a venue that
doesn't house those willing to challenge your beliefs.
--
I have a monopoly on the truth
I am right,
You are wrong,
Hell, isn't it?
John Griffin
> "Edmond Wollmann" <alcha...@yahoo.com> wrote
>> A spinic is a <snip>
>
>
> A "Critical Thinker" is one who doesn't automatically
> accept what he/she reads on the Internet as the gospel, and
> views incredible claims through the lens of skepticism.
> Not only does he/she treat other's outlandish claims with
> skepticism and demand proof of assertions made, but he/she
> prepare his/her own material in the spirit of expecting to
> be met with skepticism and welcomes peer review.
>
> If your claims cannot withstand the criticism of those
> capable of critical thought, then perhaps you should
> consider making them in a venue that doesn't house those
> willing to challenge your beliefs.
The problem with that is that he actually thinks he's doing the
asskicking here.
Bookman
"John Griffin" <thathi...@yahooie.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94F12117F66B7th...@130.133.1.4...
Excuse me, but you appear to have used the
word "thinks" in reference to Edmo. You may
wish to correct this unfortunate oversight before you
are mocked for it.
Thank you for your cooperation.
--
Bookman -The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in AFA-B
Kazoo Konspirator #668 (The Neighbor of the Beast)
We're not laughing _with_ bRay!
Clue-Bat Wrangler
Namer of the 10-gallon Creel
Keeper of the Nickname List
Despotic Kookologist of the New World Order
Cardinal Chunder
> "John Griffin" <thathi...@yahooie.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns94F12117F66B7th...@130.133.1.4...
>
>>"Truth Monopoly" <tr...@monopoly.truth> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Edmond Wollmann" <alcha...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>
>>>>A spinic is a <snip>
>>>
>>>
>>>A "Critical Thinker" is one who doesn't automatically
>>>accept what he/she reads on the Internet as the gospel, and
>>>views incredible claims through the lens of skepticism.
>>>Not only does he/she treat other's outlandish claims with
>>>skepticism and demand proof of assertions made, but he/she
>>>prepare his/her own material in the spirit of expecting to
>>>be met with skepticism and welcomes peer review.
>>>
>>>If your claims cannot withstand the criticism of those
>>>capable of critical thought, then perhaps you should
>>>consider making them in a venue that doesn't house those
>>>willing to challenge your beliefs.
>>
>>The problem with that is that he actually thinks he's doing the
>>asskicking here.
>
>
> Excuse me, but you appear to have used the
> word "thinks" in reference to Edmo. You may
> wish to correct this unfortunate oversight before you
> are mocked for it.
>
> Thank you for your cooperation.
Eddie is an AI simulation of ineffectual rage.
John Griffin
Correction: "For 'thinks,' substitute "says."
Keera Ann Fox
wrote:
> On Sat, 22 May 2004 04:50:45 +0200, ka....@online.no (Keera Ann Fox)
> wrote:
>
> >You'd really impress me if you'd been to Bergen. Or Narvik. Or
> >something.
>
> How about Eidsvoll?
Much better, especially in light of the recent May 17.
Keera Ann Fox
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
<tr...@monopoly.truth> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message
<cwErc.39480$gr.3848803@attbi_s52>:
>"Edmond Wollmann" <alcha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:35325a08.04052...@posting.google.com...
>> A spinic is a <snip>
>
>
>A "Critical Thinker" is one who doesn't automatically accept what he/she
>reads on the Internet as the gospel, and views incredible claims through the
>lens of skepticism. Not only does he/she treat other's outlandish claims
>with skepticism and demand proof of assertions made, but he/she prepare
>his/her own material in the spirit of expecting to be met with skepticism
>and welcomes peer review.
>
>If your claims cannot withstand the criticism of those capable of critical
>thought, then perhaps you should consider making them in a venue that
>doesn't house those willing to challenge your beliefs.
I predict that Edmo will have a hard time finding any ng's where his
bullshit won't be immediately spotted as bullshit.
--
V.G.
Change pobox dot alaska to gci.
"I are so sure of yourself don't you .. (ehe ehe ehe)" - Peitro Alitardia (67d7a369.04040...@posting.google.com)
"No doubt about it, 9-11 was orchestrated by Lockheed." - *lexa 'connects the dots' (cg5t80pl73d7r1s81...@4ax.com)
(This sig file contains not less than 80% recycled SPAM)
Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.
Mr. 4X
message news:pan.2004.05.20....@hotmail.com:
> Being tired of lurking, on Thu, 20 May 2004 21:24:14 +0000, Mr. 4X
posted:
>
>> "Dr. Flonkenstein" <gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> message news:pan.2004.05.20....@hotmail.com:
>>
>>> Being tired of lurking, on Thu, 20 May 2004 09:34:40 -0700, Edmond
>>> Wollmann posted:
>>>
>>>> A spinic is a bigoted and biased person/group who hides behind the
>>>> skepticism concept and attempts to belittle a paradigm or area of
>>>> interest without investigation, knowledge, or study of any sort.
>>>
>>> So you conclude Alexa Cameron is a "spinic"?
>>
>> I don't think that Alexa CaMORON 'hides behind the skepticism concept'.
>
> But it can't be denied she "belittles a paradigm or area of
> interest without investigation, knowledge, or study of any sort".
Yeah.
Jim Phillips
> "Dr. Flonkenstein" <gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> message news:pan.2004.05.20....@hotmail.com:
>
> > Being tired of lurking, on Thu, 20 May 2004 21:24:14 +0000, Mr. 4X
> posted:
> >
> >> "Dr. Flonkenstein" <gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> >> message news:pan.2004.05.20....@hotmail.com:
> >>
> >>> Being tired of lurking, on Thu, 20 May 2004 09:34:40 -0700, Edmond
> >>> Wollmann posted:
> >>>
> >>>> A spinic is a bigoted and biased person/group who hides behind the
> >>>> skepticism concept and attempts to belittle a paradigm or area of
> >>>> interest without investigation, knowledge, or study of any sort.
Well, all of the skeptics on alt.astrology that I know of know
someting about astrology, so "spinic" can't be referring to them. So
the question is: why do Eddy Wollmann and Ray Murphy throw this word
around?
--
Jim Phillips, jphillip at bcpl dot net
It's become all too clear that facts in Iraq have an anti-Bush agenda.
Edmond Wollmann
> "Edmond Wollmann" <alcha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:35325a08.04052...@posting.google.com...
> > A spinic is a
>
> because they destroy his widdle fantasies with facts, and
> bring to light his ko0ky and unethical behavior.
>
> Enjoy your AFAB Awards Nominations, Eddieeeeee!
> A ko0k like you deserves it!
>
> KTHXBY!!!
Thank you for your response. It seems that there is an inability to
stay focused on, or to deal with, the issues at hand. I am not really
interested nor inclined to attempt to resolve personal intonations
implicate in these responses. Astrology is the alt.group hierarchy
topic for this group.
If my posts serve you use them-if they don't, don't.
I do not ask anyone to believe ANYTHING I say simply on the basis that
I said it.
One must take responsibility for their psychological reactions in
interactions with others that are not conducive to logical
resolutions, nurturing insight, or inspired conversation-and reframe
them. I would really rather discuss issues rather than personalities
(which is fallacious) and wish you the best in your pursuits. It is my
sincere hope that you can rid yourself of this negativity and
pettyness. I have faith that you can, regardless of how miserable you
insist on being.
Although healthy competition is always a catalyst, I feel that this
component is out of control and is interfering in this case. I find it
unproductive and would rather not waste time in sarcasm and or
blaming. Time is very important to me and I enjoy personal development
and spirited conversation. I post on usenet with the intention of
learning and/or sharing what I know.
If in the future we can refrain from personal defenses and innuendo I
would be glad to resume with the issues at hand.
Thank you for understanding if I choose not to respond any further in
any other way than this until then.
"And in the morning of my life and in the evening of my day, I will
try to understand in what you say. Through all that life can give to
you, only true love will see you through and we'll stand beside you
now in what you say." The Moody Blues "Every Good Boy Deserves Favor"
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2004 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
AOL http://hometown.aol.com/ehwollmann/myhomepage/business.html
Spåmster
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> One must take responsibility for their psychological reactions in
> interactions with others that are not conducive to logical
> resolutions, nurturing insight, or inspired conversation-and reframe
> them.
Still shooting for that first elusive coherent post I see.
John Griffin
> "Bookman" <thebo...@kc.rr.comNULL> wrote
>> "Edmond Wollmann" <alcha...@yahoo.com> wrote
>> > A spinic is a
>>
>> Person who makes widdle Eddiieeeee Wollboyy cwy
>> because they destroy his widdle fantasies with facts, and
>> bring to light his ko0ky and unethical behavior.
>>
>> Enjoy your AFAB Awards Nominations, Eddieeeeee!
>> A ko0k like you deserves it!
>>
>> KTHXBY!!!
>
> Thank you for your response. It seems that there is an
> inability to stay focused on, or to deal with, the issues
> at hand. I am not really interested nor inclined to attempt
> to resolve personal intonations implicate in these
> responses. Astrology is the alt.group hierarchy topic for
> this group.
>
> If my posts serve you use them-if they don't, don't.
They serve as straight lines. You make yourself the butt of
jokes every time you repost some of your limited supply of
incoherent yammering. By the way, "implicate" was funny, as it
always is when you misuse it.
> I do not ask anyone to believe ANYTHING I say simply on the
> basis that I said it.
That would be one big fucking hilarious mistake.
> One must take responsibility for their psychological
> reactions in
> interactions with others that are not conducive to logical
> resolutions, nurturing insight, or inspired
> conversation-and reframe them. I would really rather
> discuss issues rather than personalities (which is
> fallacious) and wish you the best in your pursuits. It is
> my sincere hope that you can rid yourself of this
> negativity and pettyness. I have faith that you can,
> regardless of how miserable you insist on being.
That reads suspiciously like a semi-coherent tantrum.
> Although healthy competition is always a catalyst, I feel
> that this component is out of control and is interfering in
> this case. I find it unproductive and would rather not
> waste time in sarcasm and or blaming. Time is very
> important to me and I enjoy personal development and
> spirited conversation. I post on usenet with the intention
> of learning and/or sharing what I know.
Your six year spate of posting exactly the same drivel belies
that statement.
> If in the future we can refrain from personal defenses and
> innuendo I would be glad to resume with the issues at hand.
The fact that you believe that goofy superstitious "astrology"
nonsense is at hand.
> Thank you for understanding if I choose not to respond any
> further in any other way than this until then.
I snipped your ad for fraudulent, unlicensed "counseling
services."
Bookman
"Edmond Wollmann" <alcha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:35325a08.04052...@posting.google.com...
> "Bookman" <thebo...@kc.rr.comNULL> wrote in message
news:<XH8rc.30871$oQ6....@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>...
> > "Edmond Wollmann" <alcha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:35325a08.04052...@posting.google.com...
> > > A spinic is a
> >
> > Person who makes widdle Eddiieeeee Wollboyy cwy
> > because they destroy his widdle fantasies with facts, and
> > bring to light his ko0ky and unethical behavior.
> >
> > Enjoy your AFAB Awards Nominations, Eddieeeeee!
> > A ko0k like you deserves it!
> >
> > KTHXBY!!!
>
> Thank you for your response. It seems that there is an inability to
> stay focused on, or to deal with, the issues at hand.
_You_ are the issue at hand, Eddieee.
> I am not really
> interested nor inclined to attempt to resolve personal intonations
> implicate in these responses. Astrology is the alt.group hierarchy
> topic for this group.
You have a long history of taking things personally, Edmo.
>
> If my posts serve you use them-if they don't, don't.
They're always good for a laugh - especially when you
try to wax scientific.
> I do not ask anyone to believe ANYTHING I say simply on the basis that
> I said it.
Then why do you argue so much, Eddieee?
>
> One must take responsibility for their psychological reactions in
> interactions with others that are not conducive to logical
> resolutions, nurturing insight, or inspired conversation-and reframe
> them. I would really rather discuss issues rather than personalities
> (which is fallacious) and wish you the best in your pursuits. It is my
> sincere hope that you can rid yourself of this negativity and
> pettyness. I have faith that you can, regardless of how miserable you
> insist on being.
Negative? Nah, I'm positive. I'm positive that you are at
least a ko0k, and possibly a fraud. I'm positive that you will
never gain nationwide respect (thanks be to Cthulu).
>
> Although healthy competition is always a catalyst, I feel that this
> component is out of control and is interfering in this case. I find it
> unproductive and would rather not waste time in sarcasm and or
> blaming. Time is very important to me and I enjoy personal development
> and spirited conversation. I post on usenet with the intention of
> learning and/or sharing what I know.
> If in the future we can refrain from personal defenses and innuendo I
> would be glad to resume with the issues at hand.
Who'e the 'we' you are talking about?
> Thank you for understanding if I choose not to respond any further in
> any other way than this until then.
Awww, not gonna Eddycate anybody today?
>
> "And in the morning of my life and in the evening of my day, I will
> try to understand in what you say. Through all that life can give to
> you, only true love will see you through and we'll stand beside you
> now in what you say." The Moody Blues "Every Good Boy Deserves Favor"
>
> Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
P.M.A.F.A.? Is that Pudgy Manicac And Flaming Anus?
ESL!
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Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message
>"Bookman" <thebo...@kc.rr.comNULL> wrote in message news:<XH8rc.30871$oQ6....@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>...
>> "Edmond Wollmann" <alcha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:35325a08.04052...@posting.google.com...
>> > A spinic is a
>>
>> Person who makes widdle Eddiieeeee Wollboyy cwy
>> because they destroy his widdle fantasies with facts, and
>> bring to light his ko0ky and unethical behavior.
>>
>> Enjoy your AFAB Awards Nominations, Eddieeeeee!
>> A ko0k like you deserves it!
>>
>> KTHXBY!!!
>
>Thank you for your response.
Fuck yourself, Ed.
>It seems that there is an inability to
>stay focused on, or to deal with, the issues at hand.
Maybe you should try to keep them in newsgroups that care, such as
alt.test, or alt.binaries.goat-fuckers.
>I do not ask anyone to believe ANYTHING I say simply on the basis that
>I said it.
That's a relief!
Ray Murphy.
> I do not ask anyone to believe ANYTHING I say simply on the basis that
> I said it.
Yes you do, you fucking liar. You ask us to believe you have satisfied
clients without proof of endorsement. You ask us to believe you have
recommendations from psychologists, professors, and "Navy Generals",
while none has been offered up. You ask us to believe you have a valid
diploma(s) from SDSU, but no shred of evidence has been forthcoming.
You ask us to believe you have 50 years of experience, but you're only
47. You ask us to believe that you are not a kook, that you are kind,
intelligent, sensitive, and mature, when all indications point to the
contrary.
You ask us to believe a quite insane theory about gravity increase and
dinosaur extinction. You have asked us to believe that legal action is
forthcoming for seven years now, with not even the flimsiest support for
that statement. You ask us to believe in your stupid fucking theory that
we create our own reality", and then whine, bitch and complain when
yours isn't going your way. You ask us t believe that you are leaving
Usenet "forever", permanently", and also ask us to believe thaty ou will
be here for "eternity", when those tenets are clearly self-contradictory.
You ask us to believe that you have not lied on Usenet, when proof of
your prevarication is preponderous. You ask us to believe you have not
spammed and lost multiple ISP accounts, when the reverse is painfully
obvious. You ask us to believve your conviction for Misdemeanor Unlawful
Entry was a "traffic ticket", when it clearly wasn't.You ask us to
believe that you always use your own identity when simple Googling will
find multiple instances of your attempts to deceive others with sock
puppet identitities. When asked for evidence for your claims, you bob,
weave, evade, weasel, dissemble, insult, change the subject, and run
away. This list of your lies and unsupported claims could go on and on.
In fact, Mr. Wollmann, you ask us to believe EVERYTHING you say simply
on the basis that you said it. How DARE you. I would say SHAME on you,
but Sociopaths suffering from Narcissistic Personality DIsorder, such as
yourself, aren't likely to understand the concept.
Ray Murphy.
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In article <c8t2ib$jkf$0...@pita.alt.net>, "Ray Murphy."
<azi...@aol.com> wrote:
>Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
>
>> I do not ask anyone to believe ANYTHING I say simply on the basis that
>> I said it.
>
>Yes you do, you [.....] liar.
RM: This is not factual.
>You ask us to believe you have satisfied clients without proof of
endorsement.
RM: This is not factual either.
>You ask us to believe you have recommendations from [.....]
RM: None of this is factual, so I won't continue answering the rest of
it because it's a waste of time.
Ray
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Daedalus
We had a pretty funny cascade about that going recently. It would be
worth it to bring back.
I think Dan Baldwin stole everyone's creative thunder though when he
summed it up simply as standing for:
Pretty Much A Fucking Asshole.
How can you disagree with that?
Jade
Join Tommy kook Bishop's "crossposter" Lits O' Hate
by including rec.arts.poems in your groups line today!!
Daedalus
<vgor...@pobox.alaska.net>, wrote:
>On 23 May 2004 19:33:44 -0700, alcha...@yahoo.com (Edmond Wollmann)
>wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message
><35325a08.04052...@posting.google.com>:
>
>>"Bookman" <thebo...@kc.rr.comNULL> wrote in message news:<XH8rc.30871$oQ6....@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>...
>>> "Edmond Wollmann" <alcha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:35325a08.04052...@posting.google.com...
>>> > A spinic is a
>>>
>>> Person who makes widdle Eddiieeeee Wollboyy cwy
>>> because they destroy his widdle fantasies with facts, and
>>> bring to light his ko0ky and unethical behavior.
>>>
>>> Enjoy your AFAB Awards Nominations, Eddieeeeee!
>>> A ko0k like you deserves it!
>>>
>>> KTHXBY!!!
>>
>>Thank you for your response.
>
>Fuck yourself, Ed.
>
>>It seems that there is an inability to
>>stay focused on, or to deal with, the issues at hand.
>
>Maybe you should try to keep them in newsgroups that care, such as
>alt.test, or alt.binaries.goat-fuckers.
alt.banal.dog-turds
>
>>I do not ask anyone to believe ANYTHING I say simply on the basis that
>>I said it.
>
>That's a relief!
He asks you to believe it on the basis he's posted it ad nauseum for
years.
Jim Phillips
>
> ----------
> In article <c8t2ib$jkf$0...@pita.alt.net>, "Ray Murphy."
> <azi...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> >Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I do not ask anyone to believe ANYTHING I say simply on the basis that
> >> I said it.
> >
> >Yes you do, you [.....] liar.
>
> RM: This is not factual.
Liar.
> >You ask us to believe you have satisfied clients without proof of
> endorsement.
>
> RM: This is not factual either.
Liar.
> >You ask us to believe you have recommendations from [.....]
>
> RM: None of this is factual, so I won't continue answering the rest of
> it because it's a waste of time.
Run away, coward.
Mr. 4X
news:Pine.SOL.3.96.1040523172836.9556E-100000@mail:
> On Sun, 23 May 2004, Mr. 4X wrote:
>
>> "Dr. Flonkenstein" <gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> message news:pan.2004.05.20....@hotmail.com:
>>
>> > Being tired of lurking, on Thu, 20 May 2004 21:24:14 +0000, Mr. 4X
>> posted:
>> >
>> >> "Dr. Flonkenstein" <gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> >> message news:pan.2004.05.20....@hotmail.com:
>> >>
>> >>> Being tired of lurking, on Thu, 20 May 2004 09:34:40 -0700, Edmond
>> >>> Wollmann posted:
>> >>>
>> >>>> A spinic is a bigoted and biased person/group who hides behind the
>> >>>> skepticism concept and attempts to belittle a paradigm or area of
>> >>>> interest without investigation, knowledge, or study of any sort.
>
> Well, all of the skeptics on alt.astrology that I know of know
> someting about astrology, so "spinic" can't be referring to them. So
> the question is: why do Eddy Wollmann and Ray Murphy throw this word
> around?
Wollkook is illogical, as always.
BTW who the hell is Ray Murphy?
Dr. Flonkenstein
posted:
And then?
--
mhm 27x12
smeeter #28
Usenet Valhalla Circle #19 & #21
Bartlo's hate lits #1: <40376AD8...@enter.net>
CEO Alcatroll Labs Inc.
Alexa knows everything about PSI, electromagnetic radiation
and quantum mechanics:
"They are beaming earth with EMR which is interfering with natural human PSI
abilities, which is likely quantum."
<r5cl909gf5f17imo0...@4ax.com> in alt.alien.visitors
Edmond Wollmann
> >Fuck yourself, Ed.
I am afraid you are simply uninformed and not really cognizant of the
wonderful and insightful tool astrology can be in understanding the
psyche, when learned properly and studied in depth like any other
subject worthy of intelligent investigation. This may take as much as
8-10 years like other complex paradigms. It is not a belief system or
religion and can be learned by anyone with patience and diligence. It
is operationally obvious once this hurdle is overcome. Since you have
no skill in this complex craft, analyzing it is impossible for you.
You would only be exercising fallacious thinking processes and bias.
If it is possible to visit a local library or bookstore please avail
yourself of some up to date and in depth psychological/astrological
texts. These will allow you to see by true skeptical investigation and
objective analysis the validity of astrology and its co-functioning
with psychology and many other helpful paradigms. If you would like
recommendations to start your interesting and exciting study, I would
be glad to reference some texts for you.
Until then please try to refrain from childish remarks that only allow
yourself to be identified as unintelligent and less than objectively
questioning in the search for truth, and perhaps too quick to make
judgments from prejudice or ignorance. This is not an insult simply an
observation of your behavior. This is simply my best effort to explain
-not to incite. Please have respect for the diverse opinions people
hold, understanding the subject will allow you to dispel this
prejudice.
If you have any serious and thoughtful questions based on a real
understanding of either psychology, astrology or metaphysics I would
be more than happy to answer what I can, or assist you in your
understanding in that quest.
Thank you for your maturity in this matter,
Sincerely,
Edmond Wollmann
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2004 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Articles http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/info.htm
Artworks http://www.e-wollmann.com/TOC.htm
Dr. Flonkenstein
Wollmann posted:
As opposed to you, who are multiply uninformed.
Chris Krolczyk
>
> Thank you for your response. It seems that there is an inability to
> stay focused on, or to deal with, the issues at hand. I am not really
> interested nor inclined to attempt to resolve personal intonations
> implicate in these responses.
Inability to deny your own responses noted, Projectionboi.
-Chris Krolczyk
Spåmster
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> I am afraid you are simply uninformed and not really cognizant of the
Entertainment provided by our resident kook.
Ray Murphy-(see sig)
You should be, asshole.
Sir LarfaLot
"Ray Murphy." <ray...@chariot.net.au> wrote:
No astrology and nothing about Mars in Cancer.
Daedalus
<gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com>, wrote:
Why the more you do it, the higher you are on his kook crossposters
lits.
Jade
Dr. Flonkenstein
posted:
Hee Haw !!!
A Lits!!!
Bookman
Annudah one?
Can we all play?
Daedalus
Everyone is invited. Tommy would love that!
Max Mustermann
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> http://www.nocem.org/
> http://www.rahul.net/falk/quickrefs.html#W
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