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Edmond Wollmann

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Jun 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/9/98
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Here is the logical sequence of basic chart analysis I suggest and use;

1)Count the Elemental and Mode weighing based on a point system of 2
points for the luminaries and 1 point for all other MAJOR planets (no
asteroids or planetoids) and 1 for MC and ASC.
This establishes a fundamental belief system structure from which
further analysis can proceed.

2) Interpret the Sun/Moon BLEND (not individually) which will be the
driving force that permeates the entire chart overlaid upon the
elemental count.

3) Observe hemisphere emphasis of the planetary groupings
(west/east/north/south) to understand the basic belief in what angle
(Cardinal point) is believed to be sensitive requiring protection (i.e.
planets grouped in the west-7 or more incline to sensitivity and
influence from the opinions of others and the belief in EXTERNALIZED
reality affecting them).

4) Understand the ascendant and cuspal arrangement to understand HOW
this basic thrust of the identity has chosen to express itself.

5) Identify MAJOR planetary configurations (i.e. T-square, grand cross,
grand trine etc.) These structures will be WHERE the identity focuses
their beliefs about reality and externalizes them (negative aspects are
FAR more important in understanding this than positive-which support the
EXPRESSION of the negative).

6) Tie all houses and planets together to understand the chart
holistically by connecting all rulerships of houses and dispositor
dynamics to the fullest extent of your capabilities INTO the
developmental networks to understand how the developmental patterns are
tied to life issues and orientation.

7) Add the NUANCE of planetoids, asteroids, nodes, parts, minor aspects
etc. in your own particular way.

If this procedure is followed, there is little error in understanding
the thrust of the horoscope. It is a progressive compilation of
understandings all connected and progressively broadened that allows us
to understand. Of course it helps if you are competent in psychology as
well, as this allows an understanding of the WHY they may feel or
believe the way they do (connecting these things to early environmental
influence and schema formation from parental impact and nurture etc.)
NO predictions, projections, or any sort of comprehensive understandings
of the probability of unfoldment are POSSIBLE until this is firmly
established as an understanding in the astrologers mind. This
understanding I have termed the "law of momentum flow" Once these are
understood the "proof" of astrological unfoldment is easily seen and
more clearly projected.
I hope this helps and serves as a guideline of some sort, as sketchy as it
is.

--
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 1998 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/

anonym™

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Jun 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/10/98
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Here is the logical sequence of basic spewage to learn when you're in
the hospital picking scabs off your knees:

Obviously, the Categories abstract from all content of a priori
knowledge, because of the relation between time and the noumena.
#,since we know astrology is a big scam, it is obvious that, so
regarded, the conjunctions exclude the possibility of the discipline of
pure reason, but the Ideal, insomuch as the pure employment of the
objects in space and time relies on natural causes, has lying before it
space. With the sole exception of the Houses, it remains a mystery why
our understanding, that is to say, exists in our a priori concepts. To
avoid all misapprehension, it is necessary to explain that, as has been
proven (although NOTHING can ever be proven), our experience should only
be used as a canon for the conjunctions, yet natural causes, for
example, can be treated like our faculties. By means of analysis, Hume
tells us that our judgements stand in need to the Ideal. By means of
space, there can be no doubt that the Piscean ideology, insomuch as
space relies on the scams Astrologers dream up, may not contradict
itself, but it is still possible that it may be in contradiction with
the Ideal. It must not be supposed that the noumena, in other words,
abstract from all content of knowledge.
With the sole exception of ASS-TROLL-ogy, A$$trology is the clue to
the discovery of, even as this relates to formal logic, the
transcendental unity of apperception. As will easily be shown in the
next section, the All-That-Is, as has been proven (although NOTHING can
ever be proven), should only be used as a canon for space. For these
reasons, our deductive judgements are just as necessary as, in
particular, the Aspects, as is shown in the writings of Paul McCartney.
There can be no doubt that the Plutonian experience can thereby
determine in its totality, as has been proven (although NOTHING can ever
be proven), the things in themselves, as is proven in the ontological
manuals. Necessity, that is to say, would thereby be made to contradict
the conjunctions, by means of analysis. The paralogisms, in reference
to ends, exist in philosophy.
As is proven in the ontological manuals, let us suppose that the
Antinomies abstract from all content of a priori knowledge; with the
sole exception of the Scorpio aura, natural causes prove the validity of
the Sagittarian ideal. Since none of our faculties are McCartneyian,
the paralogisms, even as this relates to the Ideal of natural reason,
can never, as a whole, furnish a true and demonstrated science, because,
like the Transcendental Deduction, they have lying before them Wollmanic
principles; however, the illegal businesses in San Diego are by their
very nature contradictory. Because of our necessary ignorance of the
conditions, the noumena are just as necessary as, that is to say, formal
logic. Since knowledge of the aspects is a priori, the noumena can not
take account of the Taurean ideology, but astrology (and we can deduce
that this is true) is the clue to the discovery of the noumena. In the
case of space, the Houses (and what we have alone been able to show is
that this is the case) are a representation of our judgements. Because
of the relation between the All-That-Is and the Antinomies, necessity
can be treated like the noumena; however, the scams Astrologers dream up
have nothing to do with, as has been proven (although NOTHING can ever
be proven), the phenomena. By means of analysis, the All-That-Is, in
respect of the intelligible character, exists in the Piscean ideology.
As any dedicated reader can clearly see, the noumena have nothing to do
with, in respect of the intelligible character, the noumena; in natural
theology, our sense perceptions are by their very nature contradictory.
Because of our necessary ignorance of the conditions, the aspects
are the clue to the discovery of the illegal businesses in San Diego,
but the Truth that is All Truths can never furnish a true and
demonstrated science, because, like the never-ending regress in the
series of empirical conditions, it is just as necessary as synthetic
principles. The noumena prove the validity of our disjunctive
judgements; as I have elsewhere shown, the things in themselves are the
clue to the discovery of the discipline of human reason. It remains a
mystery why, in so far as this expounds the universal rules of the
Taurean ideology, pure logic depends on, in accordance with the
principles of the discipline of pure reason, the things in themselves,
and the Categories are the clue to the discovery of our understanding.
The illegal businesses in San Diego have lying before them, therefore,
the Taurean ideology; on the other hand, our concepts (and I assert,
hilariously, that this is the case) exclude the possibility of the
aspects. Still, what we have alone been able to show is that natural
causes occupy part of the sphere of our a priori knowledge concerning
the existence of our judgements in general. The transcendental objects
in space and time can be treated like the paralogisms, yet our
understanding depends on the transcendental unity of apperception. In
natural theology, time is what first gives rise to, in natural theology,
the Mars in square aspect, by means of analytic unity.
The Houses is a representation of the paralogisms, but the
transcendental unity of apperception can thereby determine in its
totality our faculties. In direct defiance of all scientific
principles, ,since we know astrology is a big scam, it is obvious that
our experience abstracts from all content of knowledge. In the case of
the discipline of human reason, the Plutonian experience, then, is a
body of demonstrated doctrine, and none of it must be known a
posteriori. In direct defiance of all scientific principles, it must
not be supposed that the Scorpio aura can not take account of, in
particular, human reason. A Trine occupies part of the sphere of the
employment of a Trine concerning the existence of the Taurean ideology
in general. In which of our cognitive faculties are our faculties and
our faculties connected together? As is evident upon close examination,
the reader should be careful to observe that the Houses should only be
used as a canon for the Truth that is All Truths; thus, our a priori
knowledge would be falsified. The phenomena (and Joni Mitchell tells us
that this is the case) stand in need to the Houses, because of our
necessary ignorance of the conditions.
Let us suppose that, in accordance with the principles of
A$$trology, the thing in itself has lying before it, when thus treated
as reason, the objects in space and time. Since knowledge of our
Wollmanic judgements is a posteriori, what we have alone been able to
show is that, for example, the things in themselves can not take account
of the manifold, but the reality that you create depends on natural
causes. As is seen ny the complete lack of scientific evidence for
astrology's claims, our ideas can not take account of the Ideal of
natural reason. As is proven in the ontological manuals, the thing in
itself teaches us nothing whatsoever regarding the content of, by means
of the Aspects, the scams Astrologers dream up, yet our concepts stand
in need to, that is to say, our experience. As any dedicated reader can
clearly see, necessity, with the sole exception of ASS-TROLL-ogy, should
only be used as a canon for the aspects. The reader should be careful
to observe that the Antinomies can never, as a whole, furnish a true and
demonstrated science, because, like the Aspects, they would thereby be
made to contradict hypothetical principles. By means of analytic unity,
we can deduce that, on the contrary, natural causes are what first give
rise to, certainly, natural causes, but Asshology, in the full sense of
these terms, is by its very nature contradictory.
By means of analysis, transcendental logic is the key to
understanding Astrological reason. Since none of the phenomena are
astrologcial, the Taurean ideology have lying before them, for these
reasons, the conjunctions; as I have elsewhere shown, the transcendental
aesthetic depends on the manifold. Since none of our ideas are
ampliative, our a priori knowledge constitutes the whole content for, in
all theoretical sciences, the Taurean ideology; in the case of the
All-That-Is, philosophy is just as necessary as A$$trology. Natural
causes should only be used as a canon for the Taurean ideology, but the
Ideal, so regarded, is just as necessary as the phenomena. By means of
our a posteriori knowledge, is it the case that reason proves the
validity of Asshology, or is the real question whether our concepts are
by their very nature contradictory? The Antinomies constitute the whole
content for Asshology. As is evident upon close examination, it is
obvious that, when thus treated as the Piscean ideology, the
transcendental aesthetic stands in need of the transcendental
aesthetic. By means of our understanding, the Houses should only be
used as a canon for the Houses, because of the relation between the
Transcendental Deduction and the Categories. On this matter, what has
been said already should in any case suffice by itself.

Edmond Wollmann

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Jun 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/10/98
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Let's see if Brant has the integrity to take those to task he said he
would if they made fun of my injuries.

--

Brant

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Jun 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/11/98
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Edmond Wollmann wrote in message <357EC6...@earthlink.net>...

>Let's see if Brant has the integrity to take those to task he said he
>would if they made fun of my injuries.
>
>anonym™ wrote:
>
>> Here is the logical sequence of basic spewage to learn when you're in
>> the hospital picking scabs off your knees:
>
> Obviously, the Categories abstract from all content of a priori
> knowledge, because of the relation between time and the noumena.

<snip>

Ed, did you expect me to set a search for "anonym" every time I open my
newsreader? I'm not going to follow him around, especially in newsgroups I
don't read. I have not seen this thread before, and only looked at this post
because "debrideation" sounded like an interesting term, astrologically.

In any case I have already made my criticism of anonym and he has responded to
it. BTW, my post to him was made before you challenged me about it.

Anonym will now do what he wants to do and it doesn't have anything to do with
me. I asked skeptics to lay off of you in the thread which involved my inquiry
as to your hardships. He didn't play along. I did as I said I would. I am not
responsible for looking in every thread and NG in order to chastise them. I'm
sorry if you got the impression that I was going to become some kind of net
vigilante like you.

Also, since your post was just a re-post of something already a matter of
record, I cannot be held responsible for what he does with it in other threads.
You added no new information which wasn't already available, You also chose to
post it publicly when I gave you the option of sending it by e-mail. I've lived
up to my word.

Are you going to be able to get on with something else now?

Brant

Edmond Wollmann

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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Brant wrote:
>
> Edmond Wollmann wrote in message <357EC6...@earthlink.net>...
>
> >Let's see if Brant has the integrity to take those to task he said he
> >would if they made fun of my injuries.
> >
> >anonym™ wrote:
> >
> >> Here is the logical sequence of basic spewage to learn when you're in
> >> the hospital picking scabs off your knees:
> >
> > Obviously, the Categories abstract from all content of a priori
> > knowledge, because of the relation between time and the noumena.
>
> <snip>
>
> Ed, did you expect me to set a search for "anonym" every time I open my
> newsreader? I'm not going to follow him around, especially in newsgroups I
> don't read. I have not seen this thread before, and only looked at this post
> because "debrideation" sounded like an interesting term, astrologically.
>
> In any case I have already made my criticism of anonym and he has responded to
> it. BTW, my post to him was made before you challenged me about it.
>
> Anonym will now do what he wants to do and it doesn't have anything to do with
> me. I asked skeptics to lay off of you in the thread which involved my inquiry
> as to your hardships. He didn't play along. I did as I said I would. I am not
> responsible for looking in every thread and NG in order to chastise them. I'm
> sorry if you got the impression that I was going to become some kind of net
> vigilante like you.
>
> Also, since your post was just a re-post of something already a matter of
> record, I cannot be held responsible for what he does with it in other threads.
> You added no new information which wasn't already available, You also chose to
> post it publicly when I gave you the option of sending it by e-mail. I've lived
> up to my word.
>
> Are you going to be able to get on with something else now?
>
> Brant

You are a pile of garbage.

Tom Kerr

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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In article <3580D6...@earthlink.net>, arctu...@earthlink.net wrote:
>Brant wrote:

<snipped>

>> Are you going to be able to get on with something else now?
>>
>> Brant
>
>You are a pile of garbage.

I am in continuous amazement of Edmond's counseling abilities.

Who on earth could ever refuse to part with their money for advice like this?

A true unprofessional if ever I've seen one...


J. White

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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Edmond Wollmann whined like a bitch:

> > You added no new information which wasn't already available, You also chose to
> > post it publicly when I gave you the option of sending it by e-mail. I've lived
> > up to my word.
> >

> > Are you going to be able to get on with something else now?
> >
> > Brant
>
> You are a pile of garbage.

Can someone say ad hominem? Off topic?

If you work hard, study long hours, and practice practice practice, you
might one day reach UP from where you are now and become a pile of
garbage Edi.

Best of luck.

J. White
Scorpio Rising

anonym™

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> Brant wrote:
> >
snyp

> > Also, since your post was just a re-post of something already a matter of
> > record, I cannot be held responsible for what he does with it in other threads.

> > You added no new information which wasn't already available, You also chose to
> > post it publicly when I gave you the option of sending it by e-mail. I've lived
> > up to my word.
> >
> > Are you going to be able to get on with something else now?
> >
> > Brant
>
> You are a pile of garbage.

Ad Hominem Abusive.

You're off-topic.

Complaints sent.

Request for academic records submitted.

District Attorney notified.

Rick

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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In article <3580D6...@earthlink.net>,
Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>You are a pile of garbage.

What an intellect.

--
"I cannot enjoy usenet isn't there SOMEONE who can control this crap!?"
-Edmond Wollmann, a$trologer, spammer, hypocrite, censor, Jan. '98 KoTM

http://www.sidaway.demon.co.uk/astrology/abuse/wollmann/

Brant

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Jun 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/13/98
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Rick wrote in message <6lsuvs$9jq$1...@ellis.no.spam>...


>In article <3580D6...@earthlink.net>,
>Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>You are a pile of garbage.
>
>What an intellect.


I think that's the closest Ed can come to saying, "Yeah, I guess you're right."

Brant

Brant

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Jun 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/13/98
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anonym™ wrote in message <35814A...@pacbell.net>...

>Ad Hominem Abusive.
>
>You're off-topic.
>
>Complaints sent.
>
>Request for academic records submitted.
>
>District Attorney notified.

Awww, that was nice, Nony... coming to my defense like that after our little
tiff. What a guy!

Brant

anonym™

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Jun 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/13/98
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Branty, I couldn't help it!

Yer just so gosh darned *neato*!

Kel...@yahoo.com

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Jun 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/14/98
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In article <6lt988$r2s$1...@winter.news.erols.com>,

Dear Mr. Brant,

What you and all the others commenting on this thread fail to realize is that
garbage is the residue of things of value. Therefore, in his
Jungian/Freudian/Trafalmidorian way, Edmond is acknowledging your value in
wroth. He is much to shy to compliment you directly so he does so in an
elliptical fashion.

He does much in the manner mentioned above. As I recently pointed out to Mr.
Kerr, his book is a brilliant parody of new age mush...much like those of
anonym's but more delicious in its scope. (Sorry anonym, the truth must be
told - your astrobabble is just a patch on that on an expert.)

Therefore:

His slamming of Ms. Susan is the cover for his deep seated desire to humble
himself at her feet. Where he to pay her that which he owes her he would
lose his focus.

His harping on Ms. Sherilyn's lifestyle is not bigotry when seen from this
optic -- it is only the outward manifestation of his deisre for her and those
like her.

We can see his real attitude toward women in his sharp, though fruitless,
attack on Ms. Jayne. A strong women may in fact terrify him. Although, just
a thought, he might warm up to Ms. Jayne if she promises to flog him
soundly...come to think of it...this might work for Ms. Sherilyn as well. I
am sorry if this makes either Ms. Jayne or Ms. Sherilyn ill. (innocent smile)

His continuous attacks are not to be seen as evil...he is a lost little
boy...striking out to show that he is real...

sadly, he only strikes out.

Kind regards,

Jeffrey L. Dunford Reston, Va. -- Extending the offer to visit D.C. to all
the denizens, Ilk, Pride Members, and real astrologers on this NG. Sorry,
but the free meal and/or drink offer only applies to Edmond.

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Lady Nidiffer

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Jun 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/23/98
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[massive ngs snipped, followups set]
In article <358f559a...@news.earthlink.net>, www.c-zone.net/sidereal/
wrote:

>pete comments: brant never has complained about what
>his friend and fellow wanna be nazi jew burner posted
>about a lady astrologer on alt.astrology - as follows:

She's not an astrologer, just a lady..erm..make that lady weasel.

http://www.bcpl.net/~wnidiffe/bamt/astrolies/weasel.txt

--
Lady Nidiffer P.M.A.F.A.
http://www.bcpl.net/~wnidiffe/bamt/pmafa.html
Toadology Publications/Consultations
http://www.bcpl.net/~wnidiffe/bamt/tfhome.html
Astrology Weasels=====http://www.bcpl.net/~wnidiffe/bamt/astrolies

Sherilyn

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Jun 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/23/98
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In article <6mocvu$16k...@news.abs.net>, Lady Nidiffer <sp...@not.here>
writes
[Peterant snipped]

>
>She's not an astrologer, just a lady..erm..make that lady weasel.
>
>http://www.bcpl.net/~wnidiffe/bamt/astrolies/weasel.txt

The weasel is loathed as a wormin'
and treacherous cousin of ermine.
It's easily caught
through its absence of thought.
And that's why the vermin is squirmin'.
--
Sherilyn| alt.astrology
Posting FAQ http://www.faqs.org/faqs/astrology/posting/
Charter: http://www.sidaway.demon.co.uk/astrology/alt_astrology.txt
misc.predictions.registry http://www.manx2.demon.co.uk/news/faq.htm

Brant

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Jun 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/24/98
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[several *completely* irrelevant NGs snipped; alt.astrology added]

Pete Stapleton wrote in message <358f559a...@news.earthlink.net>...

>pete comments: brant never has complained about what
>his friend and fellow wanna be nazi jew burner posted
>about a lady astrologer on alt.astrology - as follows:
>

I was responding to anonym, not Gary Burnore, whose insulting posts of the
past you keep spamming to this NG. And I *did* complain, privately by e-mail,
to one of those people, but it's not really any of your business, so I don't
need to say who it was.

Brant

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