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Edmond Wollmann

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May 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/25/97
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Subject: What does 'P.M.A.F.A' mean? An Answer...
From: ha...@stsci.edu (Live; grow stronger; fight another day.)
Date: 1997/04/28
Message-Id: <1997Apr28.141124@scivax>
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> bra...@erols.com (Brant Watson)
>> woll...@aznet.net


>> Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.

> What does P.M.A.F.A. stand for?

> "Pretty Mediocre Apologist For Astrology"?

I see you were so confident that I am mediocre that you failed to post
this anywhere but where you would get unchallenged agreement-
How ordinary of you
Mediocre=of moderate quality, ordinary.
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"Whom they fear they hate" Quintus Ennius "Thyestes"
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Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 1997 Altair Publications
http://home.aol.com/ewollmann

Bob Casanova

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On Sun, 25 May 1997 17:54:49 -0700, Edmond Wollmann
<woll...@aznet.net> wrote:

>Subject: What does 'P.M.A.F.A' mean? An Answer...
>From: ha...@stsci.edu (Live; grow stronger; fight another day.)
>Date: 1997/04/28
>Message-Id: <1997Apr28.141124@scivax>
>Newsgroups: sci.skeptic
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>> bra...@erols.com (Brant Watson)
>>> woll...@aznet.net
>
>
>>> Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
>
>> What does P.M.A.F.A. stand for?
>
>> "Pretty Mediocre Apologist For Astrology"?
>
>I see you were so confident that I am mediocre that you failed to post
>this anywhere but where you would get unchallenged agreement-
>How ordinary of you
>Mediocre=of moderate quality, ordinary.

Er, perhaps you failed to notice that you didn't answer the question?

>--
>"Whom they fear they hate" Quintus Ennius "Thyestes"
>--
>Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
>© 1997 Altair Publications
>http://home.aol.com/ewollmann

Title me "O.B.A.F.G.K.M.R.N.S."...
(Note followups, if any)

Bob C.

Reply to casanova @ crosslink.net (without the spaces, of course)

"Men become civilized, not in proportion to their willingness
to believe, but in proportion to their readiness to doubt."
--H. L. Mencken

I H Spedding

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On Sun, 25 May 1997 17:54:49 -0700, Edmond Wollmann
<woll...@aznet.net> wrote:

>Subject: What does 'P.M.A.F.A' mean? An Answer...
>From: ha...@stsci.edu (Live; grow stronger; fight another day.)
>Date: 1997/04/28
>Message-Id: <1997Apr28.141124@scivax>
>Newsgroups: sci.skeptic
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>
>> bra...@erols.com (Brant Watson)
>>> woll...@aznet.net
>
>
>>> Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
>
>> What does P.M.A.F.A. stand for?
>
>> "Pretty Mediocre Apologist For Astrology"?
>
>I see you were so confident that I am mediocre that you failed to post
>this anywhere but where you would get unchallenged agreement-
>How ordinary of you
>Mediocre=of moderate quality, ordinary.

Okay, so you don't like that one. So, how about:

Post-Menopausal Antediluvian Fantasy Addict

Any one else want to try?

Ian

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There is certainly nothing impossible about abduction by aliens in
UFO's. But on the grounds of probability it should be kept as an
explanation of last resort. It is unparsimonious, demanding more than

routinely weak evidence to support it.
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Edmond Wollmann

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May 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/26/97
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Wally Anglesea wrote:

> > Any one else want to try?

> > Ian

> Particularly Moribund Asshole From Arkansas perhaps?

> I do wish he'd either put up or shut up. I have not seemn him predict
> ONE THING.

> cheers,
> Wally

See how easy it is to draw out the intellectuals:-))))))
--
"Integrity without knowledge is weak and useless, and knowledge without
integrity is dangerous and dreadful" Samuel Johnson

Skeptic=One who doubts the truth of any principle or system of
principles
or doctrines. Questioning in the search for truth.

Cynic=a sneering faultfinder; one who disbelieves in the goodness of
human motives, and who is given to displaying his disbelief by sneers
and
sarcasm.

"Knowledge is proud that he has learned so much;
Wisdom is humble that he knows no more"
William Cowper "The Task bk vi"
"The Winter Walk at Noon"

Wally Anglesea

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John Reder

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>
> > > Any one else want to try?
>
> > > Ian

For this newsgroup's resident troll "Paul Makes A Fool Always"

John Reder (jre...@tiac.net)

twi...@worldnet.att.net

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May 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/27/97
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Edmond Wollmann <woll...@aznet.net> wrote:

>Wally Anglesea wrote:
>
>> > Any one else want to try?
>
>> > Ian
>

>> Particularly Moribund Asshole From Arkansas perhaps?
>
>> I do wish he'd either put up or shut up. I have not seemn him predict
>> ONE THING.
>
>> cheers,
>> Wally
>

>See how easy it is to draw out the intellectuals:<snip>

At least you recognize that they are intellectuals!

Putrid mothers against fornication always!
P.M.A.F.A.


I prefer the wicked rather than the foolish.
The wicked sometimes rest.

Alexandre Dumas, pere

Edmond Wollmann

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> >> > Ian

> >> cheers,
> >> Wally

--
"Whom they fear they hate" Quintus Ennius "Thyestes"

Fearful;
.."but the idea many times of the reasons that those fears occur in your
society, when you are interacting with beings from other societies in
that way, no matter what level you are interacting with them, the reason
that many of those fears occur is because-let us say-and again in no
way, shape, or form, is this meant to be a comparative judgement that
you are any less than any other being. But the way you create yourselves
to be, the way you have been taught to think of yourselves, creates
within you the ability to hide and suppress many portions of your
consciousness from yourselves, and in doing so you function on a lower
vibratory frequency very often. When you come in contact with a being
that operates on a very high vibratory frequency because it is willing
to know itself as completely as it can, then those two frequencies when
they come together, will usually create the effect of the higher
frequency in a sense overwhelming the lower frequency, and forcing the
lower frequency to rise in pitch. In forcing the lower frequency to
raise in pitch, that will bring to the surface all the things that you
have been keeping buried within you, and bringing those things to the
surface when you are not ready to face them, can be a very fearful
experience for many of you. That is where the fear comes from." Bashar

single white male

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In article <338B07...@aznet.net> Edmond Wollmann <woll...@aznet.net> writes:
>From: Edmond Wollmann <woll...@aznet.net>
>Subject: Re: What does P.M.A.F.A. Mean?
>Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 09:11:20 -0700

>> >> > Ian

>> >> cheers,
>> >> Wally

snip


>Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
>© 1997 Altair Publications
>http://home.aol.com/ewollmann


Nobody fears ya, astrology boy...you're just a dumb shit who's always hiding
himself with popular wisdom quotes and high minded vibrational talk. Piss off
and learn a new esoteric thingy and leave astrology alone.

I H Spedding

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On Tue, 27 May 1997 14:14:01 +1000, Wally Anglesea
<wang...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:

>>
>> Any one else want to try?
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
>
>Particularly Moribund Asshole From Arkansas perhaps?

Nice one!

>I do wish he'd either put up or shut up. I have not seemn him predict
>ONE THING.

Are we surprised?

I H Spedding

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On Mon, 26 May 1997 23:09:12 -0700, Edmond Wollmann
<woll...@aznet.net> wrote:

>Wally Anglesea wrote:
>
>> > Any one else want to try?
>
>> > Ian
>
>> Particularly Moribund Asshole From Arkansas perhaps?
>

>> I do wish he'd either put up or shut up. I have not seemn him predict
>> ONE THING.
>

>> cheers,
>> Wally
>
>See how easy it is to draw out the intellectuals:-))))))

Yup, you just have to quack a lot.

twi...@worldnet.att.net

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May 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/28/97
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Theresa Ornell <te...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>twi...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
>>
>> Edmond Wollmann <woll...@aznet.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Wally Anglesea wrote:
>> >
>> >> > Any one else want to try?
>> >
>> >> > Ian
>> >
>> >> Particularly Moribund Asshole From Arkansas perhaps?
>> >
>> >> I do wish he'd either put up or shut up. I have not seemn him predict
>> >> ONE THING.
>> >
>> >> cheers,
>> >> Wally
>> >

>> >See how easy it is to draw out the intellectuals:<snip>
>>
>> At least you recognize that they are intellectuals!
>>
>> Putrid mothers against fornication always!
>> P.M.A.F.A.
>>

> My, my, haven't you worked all that out in analysis yet?<snip>

Who needs analysis, we have Mr. Ed!


I prefer the wicked rather than the foolish.
The wicked sometimes rest.

Alexandre Dumas, pere

Lisa

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May 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/28/97
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Professional Member of American Federation of Astrologers

Paul Schlyter

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In article <338ABD...@tiac.net>, John Reder <xje...@tiac.net> wrote:

>>>> Any one else want to try?
>>
>>>> Ian
>
> For this newsgroup's resident troll "Paul Makes A Fool Always"
>
> John Reder (jre...@tiac.net)

Good try, but as a matter of fact, I never made you .....

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Mary L. Urquhart

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According to Thomas Shanks' _The American Atlas_, it's EST.


Richard <byj...@netwizards.net> wrote:

>My copy of Time Changes in the USA has Detroit on EDT during May 1958.
>My computer program has it as EST. Can anyone help with this
>discrepancy?

>Thanks

>Richard

Edmond Wollmann

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May 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/31/97
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Richard wrote:

> My copy of Time Changes in the USA has Detroit on EDT during May 1958.
> My computer program has it as EST. Can anyone help with this
> discrepancy?

> Thanks

> Richard

The American Atlas states that between 9/26/48 and until 6/14/67 they
were on standard time no EDT until 67.
--

Richard

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I just found a 1996 edition of Time Changes. They whited out, literally,
Detroit as DST during that time. Thanks to all who helped.

Richard

Brant Watson

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On Wed, 28 May 1997 09:33:01 -0500, Lisa
<smickeyR...@spamBLOCKmcs.net> wrote:

>Professional Member of American Federation of Astrologers

Thank you, Lisa. Ed must not have had that in his file of copyable
quotes.

Brant


Claude Latremouille

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Edmond Wollmann (woll...@aznet.net) wrote:
: Richard wrote:
:
: > My copy of Time Changes in the USA has Detroit on EDT during May 1958.
: > My computer program has it as EST. Can anyone help with this
: > discrepancy?
:
: > Thanks
:
: > Richard

: The American Atlas states that between 9/26/48 and until 6/14/67 they
: were on standard time no EDT until 67.
: --
: Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
: © 1997 Altair Publications
: http://home.aol.com/ewollmann

Just to confuse things a little further, there are *two* kinds of
time changes. 1. A change in Time Zone. 2. A change from ST to DT.

Since this post refers to Detroit - a most likely candidate to a
change in Time Zone from time to time (no pun intended), make sure
that it was not a change in Time Zone, coupled with a change from
ST to DT that is at stake here.

Or, to be more precise, CDT (UT-5) = EST (UT-5).
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John Reder

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> : Richard wrote:
> :
> : > My copy of Time Changes in the USA has Detroit on EDT during May 1958.
> : > My computer program has it as EST. Can anyone help with this
> : > discrepancy?
> :
> : > Thanks
> :
> : > Richard
>

There have been many times in the past when Detroit did not go on DST,
because it screwed up the shifts in the auto plants.
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