Is there such a thing as "premature births"?
EHWollmann
physical world.
> Hi Ed;
> I've attended numerous premature births, term births, and post dates
> births.
> Many of these infants, especially premature infants, don't have spontaneous
> respirations until some time after their delivery into this world. Many
> need assistance by man or machine as far as their breathing is concerned.
Then this is their first breath. It really doesn't matter HOW the
independence is achieved, because the people involved (the co-creators)
just create the machine to replace the child's ability to do it on its
own-so "it" is still doing it. The moment the child is breathing in any
manner is the birth.
> The lack of spontaneous respiration can go on for quite sometime with no
> ill effect thanks to ventilators. Life is often determined by the heart
> beat alone as the premature infant does not have the capacity for
> spontaneous respiration.
> These babies appear to have a soul and are full of the "life" force
> even when they are not breathing on their own.
Well as I said they are creating the ventilator as a "prop" so to speak
to replace the ability to breathe on their own. Please remember also,
that all realities are created or co-created for all involved. The baby
always serves a purpose to all involved for the learning of what all
involved wish to learn-so whether the baby "makes it" or not is really
not the issue.
> My question is does the first breath really indicate when life
> starts. Who's first breath do we consider? The one I gave them with the
> ambu bag or the one they finally took on their own? So what is the right
> time to use in calculating their ascendent.
The one that first went into their lungs regardless of how it was created to do
so.
> I can't help replying to a statement that was made in a previous
> post...See what happens when they don't breathe.....We ventilate them and
> life goes on.
And they are still breathing then-just in a different manner. Each being
creates their reality-baby or not-props or not. All of physical life is a
process we go through to experience and become what we already are-because time
in essence is an illusion. So we create
time/things/space to allow us to focus sequentially on one of these
"things" at a time so that we are not overwhelmed by all of it all at
once. But the breathing is the breathing-only we make judgments of what
constitutes life/breathing etc. All of our reality is us in another form and so
we create us in another form such as medicine and doctors etc. to allow us to
heal or effect the events we wish to effect under the guise of it being outside
of us-when it is not really. So it is the baby's choice once again to create
this "type" of birth-just as one who was ceaserian-reflecting this is Aries
intercepted (missing in reference) in one! The Moon in Aries in one! This is
his chart-did the doctor make the chart by "birthing" him? No he chose to
co-create this "type" of birth and was still birthed at this time in this way
with those props that reflect his own choices.
"Vibration is the impingement of consciousness upon the homogenous field that
creates physical reality, or that is created to created physical reality. It is
a reflection of the ability to create distinct, or as your physicists say,
discontinuous reality, so as to have the ability to create many different ideas
of reality that can interact in the same basic universe, while not necessarily
occupying the same time frame or space referential point. It creates the idea
of being able to be out of phase with something else so as to not interfere
with it, so that it can be a parallel reality existing in the same basic
referential place and time, but not experienced to be doing so." "The New
Metaphysics" Bashar and The Association Light and Sound communications 1987.
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
(c) 2000 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Cujo
EHWollmann wrote in message
<20010105104252...@ng-md1.aol.com>...
might get away with this babble in face-to-face talks, you certainly look
like a bigger fool when someone can read what you are actually saying on
'paper'. It gives the observer a chance to go back and look at your blather.
--
"Screed"?, you mean my offer of service in astrological
writings that I also post in the proper groups--Because I am
EXTREMELY competant, I am able to carry 30 units, write
articles, date 25 year olds, kill spinics accounts, do artworks
of high calibur, and read 10 books at a time. Where do
you find the courage or audacity to challenge me?
Eddie Wollmann, laughingstock of astrology posts his
'competant' delusions once again.
LiliLove1
>The baby
>always serves a purpose to all involved for the learning of what all
>involved wish to learn-so whether the baby "makes it" or not is really
>not the issue.
You are so heartless.
~~~
"Cool, cool moon and that same sad nature. Wanna cover every inch of you like
ink on paper. It's the slow parade of souls consumed by religion. Can't wait
'till I can get you in that defenseless position" Colvin/Browne "Set the
Prairie on Fire"
EHWollmann
>Message-ID: <20010105113508...@ng-ct1.aol.com>
>ehwollmann wrote:
>>The baby
>>always serves a purpose to all involved for the learning of what all
>>involved wish to learn-so whether the baby "makes it" or not is really
>>not the issue.
>You are so heartless.
I didn't say not important, I said not the main issue.
Translation?:
You have no faith, knowledge or trust in the eternal nature of the soul, and
discount things as real if they have no physical form. But that would be
reflective of a materialistic person such as you.
>"Cool, cool moon and that same sad nature. Wanna cover every inch of you
>like
>ink on paper. It's the slow parade of souls consumed by religion. Can't
>wait
>'till I can get you in that defenseless position" Colvin/Browne "Set the
>Prairie on Fire"
Vengeful lyrics, hhhhmmm, interesting. But typical.
Still practicing the self-pity about your own reality creations while you try
to destroy others mercilessly in a spitefulway eh? And then you wonder why your
life is so miserable.
At what point will you realize the futility of blaming others?
Perhaps that moon in Pisces in 12 just magnifies the ruthlessness of the
Capricorn passions in 10 and your own self poty from what you reap from that?
"You're so consumed with how much you get, you waste your time with hate and
regret--you're broken, when your heart's not open." Madonna, Ray of Light
Spamster
EHWollmann wrote:
> Still practicing the self-pity about your own reality creations while you try
> to destroy others mercilessly in a spitefulway eh? And then you wonder why your
> life is so miserable.
> At what point will you realize the futility of blaming others?
Good question. When will you get a grip on reality?
LiliLove1
>>From: lili...@aol.com (LiliLove1) wrote in:
>
>>Message-ID: <20010105113508...@ng-ct1.aol.com>
>
>>ehwollmann wrote:
>
>>>The baby
>>>always serves a purpose to all involved for the learning of what all
>>>involved wish to learn-so whether the baby "makes it" or not is really
>>>not the issue.
>
>>You are so heartless.
>
>I didn't say not important, I said not the main issue.
>Translation?:
>You have no faith, knowledge or trust in the eternal nature of the soul, and
>discount things as real if they have no physical form. But that would be
>reflective of a materialistic person such as you.
Yawn
~~~~~~
>>"Cool, cool moon and that same sad nature. Wanna cover every inch of you
>>like
>>ink on paper. It's the slow parade of souls consumed by religion. Can't
>>wait
>>'till I can get you in that defenseless position" Colvin/Browne "Set the
>>Prairie on Fire"
>
>Vengeful lyrics, hhhhmmm, interesting. >But typical.
You're a moron. The song "Set the Prairie on Fire" is not vengeful; it's about
sex, and the vulnerability inherent in it. Maybe that's just a topic you're
not too well versed in.
<snip of astrobabble as insightful as Wollmann's understanding of song lyrics
(i.e., nonexistent)>
~~~
el...@no.spam
EHWollmann <ehwol...@aol.com> wrote:
>Then this is their first breath. It really doesn't matter HOW the
>independence is achieved, because the people involved (the co-creators)
>just create the machine to replace the child's ability to do it on its
>own-so "it" is still doing it. The moment the child is breathing in any
>manner is the birth.
It really doesn't matter period. Real testing has shown astrology just
doesn't work.
Pedantus
"EHWollmann" <ehwol...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Ed,
You could try to imagine that the Universe creates human beings as a
result of its search for Self awareness. Agreed, its not a personal
matter, Ed. The individual soul, *if indeed* eternal, having no
conception of individuality in its prior circumstance--being that it
is/was an indivisible, immeasurable, portion of the "All", *it* will
surely return to a state of indiscernible "particular" existence.
This is what you fear, Ed. Knowing in your darkened heart of hearts
that you will evaporate into an infinite no-thing-ness, your Taurean
greed--a vestigial emotional legacy ala the voracious reptiles perhaps,
is seated on a Lili-pad lapping your projectile tongue at every airborne
maggot.
Rog...;)
Cujo
EHWollmann wrote in message
<20010105115352...@ng-md1.aol.com>...
>>From: lili...@aol.com (LiliLove1) wrote in:
>
>>Message-ID: <20010105113508...@ng-ct1.aol.com>
>
>>ehwollmann wrote:
>
>>>The baby
>>>always serves a purpose to all involved for the learning of what all
>>>involved wish to learn-so whether the baby "makes it" or not is really
>>>not the issue.
>
>>You are so heartless.
>
>I didn't say not important, I said not the main issue.
>Translation?:
>You have no faith, knowledge or trust in the eternal nature of the soul,
and
>discount things as real if they have no physical form. But that would be
>reflective of a materialistic person such as you.
You mean someone who has a job and pays their bills, deadbeat.
>>"Cool, cool moon and that same sad nature. Wanna cover every inch of you
>>like
>>ink on paper. It's the slow parade of souls consumed by religion. Can't
>>wait
>>'till I can get you in that defenseless position" Colvin/Browne "Set the
>>Prairie on Fire"
>
>Vengeful lyrics, hhhhmmm, interesting. But typical.
Only if you choose to interpret them that way, kook.
>Still practicing the self-pity about your own reality creations while you
try
>to destroy others mercilessly in a spitefulway eh? And then you wonder why
your
>life is so miserable.
.sig material!!!1!!!
>At what point will you realize the futility of blaming others?
Funny you should ask that, kook! Why did you stalk Kronert and threaten to
sue him for expressing his opinion and doing his job?
>Perhaps that moon in Pisces in 12 just magnifies the ruthlessness of the
>Capricorn passions in 10 and your own self poty from what you reap from
that?
Try being coherent for once, idiot. What you just wrote made no sense.
Edmond H. Wollmann
> >>From: lili...@aol.com (LiliLove1) wrote in:
> >>Message-ID: <20010105113508...@ng-ct1.aol.com>
> >>ehwollmann wrote:
> >>>The baby
> >>>always serves a purpose to all involved for the learning of what
all
> >>>involved wish to learn-so whether the baby "makes it" or not is
really
> >>>not the issue.
> >>You are so heartless.
> >I didn't say not important, I said not the main issue.
> >Translation?:
> >You have no faith, knowledge or trust in the eternal nature of the
soul, and
> >discount things as real if they have no physical form. But that
would be
> >reflective of a materialistic person such as you.
> Yawn
Brilliant reply!
~~~~~~
> >>"Cool, cool moon and that same sad nature. Wanna cover every inch
of you
> >>like
> >>ink on paper. It's the slow parade of souls consumed by religion.
Can't
> >>wait
> >>'till I can get you in that defenseless position"
Colvin/Browne "Set the
> >>Prairie on Fire"
> >Vengeful lyrics, hhhhmmm, interesting. >But typical.
> You're a moron. The song "Set the Prairie on Fire" is not vengeful;
it's about
> sex, and the vulnerability inherent in it. Maybe that's just a
topic you're
> not too well versed in.
Then why were you always begging me to come up and perform it?
"I used to count lovers like railroad cars-- I counted them on my side.
Lately I don't count 'em nothin-I just let things slide-station master
shufflin cars, boxcars are bangin in the yard, jealous lovin will make
you crazy-if you can't find your goodness cause you lost your heart."
Joni Mitchell "Just Like This Train"
"IN the morning, don't say you love me! Cause you know I'll only kick
you out the door. Red lips, hair, and fingernails, I hear you're a mean
old jesabel!
Just don't be here in the morning when I wake up!
Stay with me, stay with me, for tonight you're gonna stay with me!."
Rod Stewart
--
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
Š 2000 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.e-wollmann.com/
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el...@no.spam
Edmond H. Wollmann <woll...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>Then why were you always begging me to come up and perform it?
Why are you always lying and showing your lack of integrity?
--
"I can see why you have difficulty understanding why I am a babe magnet"
-Edmond Wollmann, a$trologer, liar, spammer, hypocrite, censor, Jan. '98 KoTM,
convicted criminal, asshole, bully, Kook of the Year 1998,
the Ted Kennedy of astrologers, Village Idiot Award winner,
dumpster diver, smeg for brains
LiliLove1
>Edmond H. Wollmann <woll...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>> Then why were you always begging me to come up and perform it?
>
No, Ed, it was to *get* it up and perform. Remember, you said that helped you
tp acheive erection. Ya know, my begging you and berating you about your
inabilities.
Tho, it was never a fantasy to my tastes, to help you out, I acted out that
scenario for ya. I must say, it was only *occasionally* successful in helping
you achieve/maintain erection. Then again, in your case, it was hard to tell
the difference between erect and not erect.
>From what I've heard, it's probably because of your failure to
>"perform."
>
WOFFLMFAO
Edmond H. Wollmann
> >Edmond H. Wollmann <woll...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >> Then why were you always begging me to come up and perform it?
> No, Ed, it was to *get* it up and perform. Remember, you said that
helped you
> tp acheive erection. Ya know, my begging you and berating you about
your
> inabilities.
Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!! Dream on spammer. You guys always go to this
idea, like it's some generic biggest fear on every guys part or
something. Maybe it is, I wouldn't know.
> Tho, it was never a fantasy to my tastes, to help you out, I acted
out that
> scenario for ya. I must say, it was only *occasionally* successful
in helping
> you achieve/maintain erection. Then again, in your case, it was hard
to tell
> the difference between erect and not erect.
So why the begging, I repeat? Do you want me to make audio files of
your begging and put those at my site for proof? Or can you get on
topic and forget your rejection?
> >From what I've heard, it's probably because of your failure to
> >"perform."
My, my, try as you may spinics, anyone reading knows better than that.
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ED,
your posts were especially brilliant today on alt. whatever
i rarely feel the amazing-blown-away-feeling i feel when i read your
posts.
so i just checked your merc. gemini's don't usually move me...but you
are so incredibly right on. or shall i say, you speak a language that
i understand -its my native tongue- but no one else is fluent. do you
get that??
so i'm just amazed.
really, its so weird. i never tell people i think that they're
smart...or not smart. most people seem like smart at something to me.
no one seems stupid (except sometimes an SAT student will provide a
challenge).
[snipp!.... yes too long and boring]
oh this is too long and probably boring.
i'm really just saying thank you for being you and for bringing light
to me.
peace
lili
PS> oh and you ....being you moves me. the description on autism to
the guy who worked with autistics was so INCREDIBLY BRILLIANT. your
astrology flowed so perfectly with the psychology and with my knowing.
love to you.
--
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2000 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
LiliLove1
>So why the begging, I repeat? Do you want me to make audio files of
>your begging and put those at my site for proof?
No. I don't want anything about me on your site.
>Or can you get on
>topic and forget your rejection?
What's the topic?
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>ED,
>your posts were especially brilliant today on alt. whatever
{snip}
And that letter? Was that on topic? Is the topic the "love" letters you
received supposedly from me from my "mothers"
{plural?} account(s)?
I will say it again and in my mind, it's the worst charge I can level at
anyone.
You, Ed, are heartless.
I know you dislike being called "ignorant" more that being called "heartless".
But, ignorance can be remedied by learning. I don't know if one can *learn* or
be taught compassion.
And, Ed, no matter what else you might say, this whole fight between you and me
erupted when I noted to *another* poster that *some* people who get flamed here
deserve it. I never mentioned your name.
Then, you, some weeks later, posted the Lili's Family Are Characters from The
Sopranos Post (tm).
Was that on topic?
Was that really called for?
Was that in any way relevant?
Way, down deep, Ed, *do* you have a heart?
Spamster
"Edmond H. Wollmann" wrote:
> My, my, try as you may spinics, anyone reading knows better than that.
>
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Actually, posting this proves you're one hell of a paranoid kook. Who would
save email for almost 4 years, except for someone so fucked up in the head
like you?
eve oak
<woll...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>In article <20010105145414...@ng-ct1.aol.com>,
> lili...@aol.com (LiliLove1) wrote:
>> jfred wrote:
>
>> >Edmond H. Wollmann <woll...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>> >> Then why were you always begging me to come up and perform it?
>
>> No, Ed, it was to *get* it up and perform. Remember, you said that
>helped you
>> tp acheive erection. Ya know, my begging you and berating you about
>your
>> inabilities.
>
Oh, the things we do for love!
>Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!! Dream on spammer.
How is Lili spamming in her post?
>You guys always go to this idea, like it's some generic biggest
>fear on every guys part or something. Maybe it is, I wouldn't know.
You don't know 'cause your in denial, edie.
>> Tho, it was never a fantasy to my tastes, to help you out, I acted
>out that
>> scenario for ya. I must say, it was only *occasionally* successful
>in helping
>> you achieve/maintain erection. Then again, in your case, it was hard
>to tell
>> the difference between erect and not erect.
>
>So why the begging, I repeat? Do you want me to make audio files of
>your begging and put those at my site for proof? Or can you get on
>topic and forget your rejection?
>
She just said she did it because you asked her to. A lot of women are
conditioned to do whatever it takes to please their men, something you
obviously take advantage of. If you make those audio files I predict
your life will get a whole lot worse. That's because it's an extremely
out-of-integrity thing to do. (Which we've come to expect from you.)
Can you get on topic and forget you're a reject? Didn't think so.
>> >From what I've heard, it's probably because of your failure to
>> >"perform."
>
>My, my, try as you may spinics, anyone reading knows better than that.
>
How would anyone reading know better than that? Have you tried to fuck
everyone who reads aa, aam, auk, nana froups, ap, s.skeptic etc? I'm
glad I wasn't here for THAT!.
SNIP of unauthorised posting of private email - a very wollkookian
outofintegrityact.
BTW, I can't wait for the free online version of your book. Hours of
entertainment ahead!
el...@no.spam
eve oak <midn...@the.oasis> wrote:
>If you make those audio files I predict
>your life will get a whole lot worse. That's because it's an extremely
>out-of-integrity thing to do. (Which we've come to expect from you.)
It also makes me wonder just why he even has the recordings (if he
really does). What does that say about his integrityi?
Edmond H. Wollmann
> >So why the begging, I repeat? Do you want me to make audio files of
> >your begging and put those at my site for proof?
> No. I don't want anything about me on your site.
Then stop spinning, lying and abusing me just because I tell the truth.
> >Or can you get on
> >topic and forget your rejection?
> What's the topic?
The topic WAS premature births, which you and your spinic thugs have
now turned to your lies against my truths.
> >From - Mon Feb 24 08:10:28 1997
> >From: (LILI posting from mothers account)
> >ED,
> >your posts were especially brilliant today on alt. whatever
> {snip}
> And that letter? Was that on topic? Is the topic the "love" letters
you
> received supposedly from me from my "mothers"
> {plural?} account(s)?
It is after you all started the abuse.
> I will say it again and in my mind, it's the worst charge I can level
at
> anyone.
> You, Ed, are heartless.
Whoopdedoodledaday! I am really the kind one, because I do not try to
punish people for telling the truth or being themselves--unlike you and
your abusive clan.
> I know you dislike being called "ignorant" more that being
called "heartless".
> But, ignorance can be remedied by learning. I don't know if one can
*learn* or
> be taught compassion.
Define compassion Ms backstabber. Compassion meaning I overlook yours
and Susans lying, harassing, and attempts to punish me for not being
controllable to your guilt bullshit? For no reason? Because I didn't
hop skip and jump because you guys have money? Because I am not
succumbing to manipulative attempts through underserved guilt trips I
am not "compassionate"? Because I don't succumb to your conditions of
what you believe I "should" be in order to be "ok"?
You are not dealing with the average dupable idiot swayed by emotive
garbage, I know what compassion is, and you abusers aint it.
I will debate you here and now liar, and PROVE you are the mean,
lying, abusing, backstabbing out of integrity loser who can't deal with
life.
Lets go, I will show that your "compassion" is really the attempt to
make others feel inferior or guilty so that you can manipulate them
into whatever you want, to justify your inability to face your own
problems, hence, you lable them uncompassionate to try to avoid your
own reality and dodge responsibility for it. And that your money makes
others cringe and deny truths, nbut not me.
> And, Ed, no matter what else you might say, this whole fight between
you and me
> erupted when I noted to *another* poster that *some* people who get
flamed here
> deserve it. I never mentioned your name.
The fact that you are so stupid as to say ANYone "deserves" abuse, is
cause enough for me to call you on it and prove you are full of it.
> Then, you, some weeks later, posted the Lili's Family Are Characters
from The
> Sopranos Post (tm).
Nope, you must be hitting the bottle again, I said you were Italian.
You really don't understand psychology do you?
But now that YOU mention it, the mails I have saved from you do have
Sopranos ads at the bottom, what's up with that?
> Was that on topic?
Nope, but you and your abusers drove it off, so I feel justified in
carrying it through to defeat another slew of lies from lowlifes
claiming "compassion" insight.
> Was that really called for?
You have no room to speak about anything concerning abuse.
> Was that in any way relevant?
If I am attacked I tell the truth about the attacker and the attempted
spin, it is very simple-- and I have 5 years of a record to prove there
is absolutely nothing out of integrity that I have done by doing so. It
all depends on when you egomaniacs decide you will stop the bluffing
and bullshitting your way through your errors and face the music, as to
when this group will turn around and we can speak in a civilized
manner. It has always been in your's and the abusers power Dorothy.
> Way, down deep, Ed, *do* you have a heart?
Meaning what? That I don't succumb to emotive appeal designed to deny
truth?
I understand, that is the most powerful form compassion takes, I then
act in the most logical manner I can to resolve the denial you want me
to succumb to, for the benefit of all involved--I cannot lie about it,
I cannot hide your faults and protect you and others from yourselves.
THAT is compassion, and what do you think? THINK IDIOTS!! I have
nothing better to do with my life than to give my valuable insight and
counsel all day every day to unpaying clients who call me names?
SNIP!
"Well I try so hard to understand dear, but you still mystify and I
want to know why!...Again and again when I ask you to explain you say;
'You've gotta be--cruel to be kind in the right measure, cruel to be
kind, its a very good sign. Cruel to be kind means that I love you!
Baby, you've gotta be cruel to be kind.'" Nick Lowe "Cruel to be Kind"
el...@no.spam
Edmond H. Wollmann <woll...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>Then stop spinning, lying and abusing me just because I tell the truth.
When have you told the truth, Edie?
Spamster
"Edmond H. Wollmann" wrote:
>
> You are not dealing with the average dupable idiot
I agree. You're a first class idiot.
EHWollmann
> >So why the begging, I repeat? Do you want me to make audio files of
> >your begging and put those at my site for proof?
> No. I don't want anything about me on your site.
Then stop spinning, lying and abusing me just because I tell the truth.
> >Or can you get on
> >topic and forget your rejection?
> What's the topic?
Astrology!
> You, Ed, are heartless.
> Was that on topic?
SNIP!
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
(c) 2000 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
eve oak
It speaks volumes about the lack of it. And about his paranoid
compulsiveness.
Spamster
EHWollmann wrote:
>
> I will debate you here and now liar, and PROVE you are the mean,
> lying, abusing, backstabbing out of integrity loser who can't deal with
> life.
Whining != debating, fool.
Cujo
Bob Officer wrote in message <3a665e07....@news.remarq.com>...
>On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 23:29:35 GMT, in alt.astrology Edmond H. Wollmann
><woll...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <20010105164311...@ng-ft1.aol.com>,
>> lili...@aol.com (LiliLove1) wrote:
>>> wollmann wrote:
>>
>>> >So why the begging, I repeat? Do you want me to make audio files of
>>> >your begging and put those at my site for proof?
>>
>>> No. I don't want anything about me on your site.
>>
>>Then stop spinning, lying and abusing me just because I tell the truth.
>
>Instruct them to remove your property (you are the copyright holder not
>edmond) or face any legal repercussions.
>
>The creator of any written material is the holder of the copyright holder.
>While the RIAA and other have to wait until complaints are filed by the
>agents of the authors or the author themselves, Lili, you don't have to
>wait. You hold the copyright.
>
>Make sure you post your valid complaint using the same address as is shown
>in the headers of Edmond's web page.
>
>You have him by the ball's, Lili now squeeze.
>
>Squeeze the heartless one...
>
>
>To anyone that has ever thought about sending Edmond any private mail, you
>should see he has no ethics or heart.
No point in sending him any personal email. He's got plenty of other email.
I predict he'll get a lot more.
Cujo
el...@no.spam wrote in message <97873610...@no.spam>...
It's also against the law to record conversations without both parties being
aware of it. What a scumbag. It also tells me that Wollkook knew he was
going to use it as blackmail. Put it up on the website, I can guarantee you
that you'll have the law knocking on your door.
Vladimir Svareff
Astrological Prediction:
If he puts those audio files on his web site he's going to end up with a
tattoo on his head that says "Louisville Slugger". Backwards.
Ed's Dad
Cujo wrote:
>
> el...@no.spam wrote in message <97873610...@no.spam>...
> >In article <3a564602...@news.dingoblue.net.au>,
> >eve oak <midn...@the.oasis> wrote:
> >
> >>If you make those audio files I predict
> >>your life will get a whole lot worse. That's because it's an extremely
> >>out-of-integrity thing to do. (Which we've come to expect from you.)
> >
> >It also makes me wonder just why he even has the recordings (if he
> >really does). What does that say about his integrity?
>
> It's also against the law to record conversations without both parties being
> aware of it.
Actually, it depends on the state.
In California, I believe only one party has to know. Stupid, huh?
> What a scumbag.
You got *that* part right!
> It also tells me that Wollkook knew he was
> going to use it as blackmail.
Of course. He saves everything. Eddie, a pack rat is still a rat.
> Put it up on the website, I can guarantee you
> that you'll have the law knocking on your door.
Maybe they'll be in time to help him clean his teeth up off the floor.
Ed's Dad, Heinz
No, Lili, he doesn't. To put a finer point on it, he's a fucking sociopath.
Ed's Dad, Heinz
I know where evil dwells:
Edmond H. Wollmann 4158 Decoro St. # 51 San Diego, CA 92122 (858)
453-2342 (858)558-7902 FAX (858) 558-7117
SEE the REAL Edmo!:
http://www.angelfire.com/stars2/fleemp
http://homestead.deja.com/user.mantis_magna/index.html
http://homestead.deja.com/user.hoovamoonmuhtma/index.html
http://homestead.deja.com/user.mantis_magna/files/ednobalz.gif
http://homestead.deja.com/user.edmond_wollmann/files/pantihed.jpg
http://homestead.deja.com/user.edmond_wollmann/files/outofintegrity.jpg
http://homestead.deja.com/user.edmond_wollmann/files/daned.gif
eve oak
Sounds like edie should clean up his act.
Cujo
Ed's Dad wrote in message <3A567370...@wollmann.com>...
>
>
>Cujo wrote:
>>
>> el...@no.spam wrote in message <97873610...@no.spam>...
>> >In article <3a564602...@news.dingoblue.net.au>,
>> >eve oak <midn...@the.oasis> wrote:
>> >
>> >>If you make those audio files I predict
>> >>your life will get a whole lot worse. That's because it's an extremely
>> >>out-of-integrity thing to do. (Which we've come to expect from you.)
>> >
>> >It also makes me wonder just why he even has the recordings (if he
>> >really does). What does that say about his integrity?
>>
>> It's also against the law to record conversations without both parties
being
>> aware of it.
>
>Actually, it depends on the state.
>
>In California, I believe only one party has to know. Stupid, huh?
WHAT? That is stupid.
>> What a scumbag.
>
>You got *that* part right!
>
>> It also tells me that Wollkook knew he was
>> going to use it as blackmail.
>
>Of course. He saves everything. Eddie, a pack rat is still a rat.
>
>> Put it up on the website, I can guarantee you
>> that you'll have the law knocking on your door.
>
>Maybe they'll be in time to help him clean his teeth up off the floor.
He has real teeth? Wait until Enzo gets here, Monster & Dave don't like
scumbags much either.
Hey Wollkook!!1!!
YOU'VE GOT MORE MAIL!!!1!!!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!1!!!!!
LiliLove1
~T
Those yellowed gap teeth of his? No great loss.
~T
LiliLove1 wrote in message <20010105210528...@ng-fu1.aol.com>...
>You betcha! But first, you need to get that all important erection. ;-O
>
One would likely need tweezers and a magnifying glass to see it. ( gonna
have a nightmare tonight albeit a "little" one!)
Lou Minatti™
> "IN the morning, don't say you love me! Cause you know I'll only kick
> you out the door. Red lips, hair, and fingernails, I hear you're a mean
> old jesabel!
> Just don't be here in the morning when I wake up!
> Stay with me, stay with me, for tonight you're gonna stay with me!."
> Rod Stewart
I bet you have a lot in common with Rod. Have you ever had your stomach
pumped?
--
Watching You Dot Com
http://www.watchingyou.com
el...@no.spam
EHWollmann <ehwol...@aol.com> wrote:
>> No. I don't want anything about me on your site.
>Then stop spinning, lying and abusing me just because I tell the truth.
You don't tell the truth, Wollmann. We have plenty of evidence to show
you are a chronic liar.
Have you read your web host's AUP? This part is nice:
Defamatory or Abusive Language -- Using Verio's network as a means to
transmit or post defamatory, harassing, abusive, or threatening language.
Do you really want to lose that web site, Wollmann?
Ed's Dad, Heinz
LiliLove1 wrote:
>
> ehwollmann wrote:
>
> >The baby
> >always serves a purpose to all involved for the learning of what all
> >involved wish to learn-so whether the baby "makes it" or not is really
> >not the issue.
>
> You are so heartless.
AND STUPID, TOO!
Beep
>>From: lili...@aol.com (LiliLove1) wrote in:
>
>>Message-ID: <20010105113508...@ng-ct1.aol.com>
>
>>ehwollmann wrote:
>
>>>The baby
>>>always serves a purpose to all involved for the learning of what all
>>>involved wish to learn-so whether the baby "makes it" or not is really
>>>not the issue.
>
>>You are so heartless.
>
>I didn't say not important, I said not the main issue.
>Translation?:
>You have no faith, knowledge or trust in the eternal nature of the soul, and
>discount things as real if they have no physical form. But that would be
>reflective of a materialistic person such as you.
>
>>"Cool, cool moon and that same sad nature. Wanna cover every inch of you
>>like
>>ink on paper. It's the slow parade of souls consumed by religion. Can't
>>wait
>>'till I can get you in that defenseless position" Colvin/Browne "Set the
>>Prairie on Fire"
>
>Vengeful lyrics, hhhhmmm, interesting. But typical.
>
>Still practicing the self-pity about your own reality creations while you try
>to destroy others mercilessly in a spitefulway eh? And then you wonder why your
>life is so miserable.
>At what point will you realize the futility of blaming others?
>Perhaps that moon in Pisces in 12 just magnifies the ruthlessness of the
>Capricorn passions in 10 and your own self poty from what you reap from that?
First an Aries moon is "wimpy", now a Pisces moon is "ruthlessness"?
Ed's astrology: like no one else's.
Pam
email address: beep at west dot net
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Happy 2001!
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