Pluto Conjoins Chiron
EHWollmann
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:30:18 GMT
From: Edmond Wollmann <woll...@my-deja.com>
Organization: Altair Publications SAN 299-5603
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December 20, 1999 © 1999/2000 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
On December 30, 1999 Pluto will Conjunct Chiron
Pluto reflects the powerful transformation that occurs when the beliefs
and values of different co- creators interact and refuse to acknowledge
that all truths are true.
Chiron reflects the transition of perspective from one of powerLESSness
that results from placing the power outside of oneself (Saturn) to one
of a recognition of choice in the creation of one's reality (Uranus) by
acknowledging unconscious creations.
When these 2 planets come together a tremendous potential for both
profound healing (positive energy) and profound pain (negative energy
resulting from denial and the resistance to growth) are possible
(please see http://astroconsulting.com/FAQs/essays_4.htm#where ).
Because this conjunction occurs in the sign of Sagittarius, the
transformation of the BELIEF IN ONE TRUTH AND ONE GOD will be where
this pain or transition to healing will register.
Something or someone will challenge the collective in ways that many
had not thought possible. Perhaps a painful memory of the injustices
perpetrated by ONE belief structure upon another will be the driving
force that brings to the surface of current events, a powerful attempt
to retaliate. THIS ONLY PERPETUATES MOMENTUM.
We create our reality(s) collectively and individually by the
DEFINITIONS WE HOLD ABOUT THE MULTIVERSE. There is NO ONE TRUTH-except
that THE truth is the composition of the ALL THAT IS. It is THOSE
values, THOSE beliefs in negativity that we give to the ALL THAT IS
that triggers emotional pain.
We will be required to delve within for answers and to try new methods
of handling our problems in the new millennium. We must learn to allow
the validity of all truths, and that all co- creators within the ALL
MUST be valid. What part of the ALL THAT IS does any man arrogant
enough deem invalid? I say pain will be his lot.
It is important that we treat ourselves lovingly and surround ourself
with others who will love and support the idea we CHOOSE to be out of
the all, for in the end, it will NOT be a matter of truth, but a matter
of PREFERENCE. Wake up and dream the dream you PREFER TO DREAM. As a co-
creator within the ALL this creator will NOT withhold from you the
ability to be all that you have CHOSEN to be true for you. On the
positive side, we now have the potential to heal problems which have
held us back, the issues that have been believed written in "stone" are
truly only choices in life.
It is also possible that this time involves the death or birth of a
loved one or national figure - events which evoke beliefs in the ideal.
The end result will be worldwide healing.
Choose wisely your preferences from out of the all, allow them to be
positive and integral.
Thank you once again for allowing ME to express what *I* believe to be
true for me--what the ALL has CHOSEN to express through me. You do not
have to accept, believe, battle or refute it.
Remember, you do not HAVE to do anything, other than exist.
Best to all in the transition, I trust that I have served in this way.
I CHOOSE that as a preference.
"Weep no more for treasures you've been searching for in vain cause the
truth is gently falling with the rain. High above the forest lie the
pastures of the Sun where the two who learned the secret--now are one."
The Moody Blues "Every Good Boy Deserves Favor"
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
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EHWollmann wrote:
> Subject:Pluto conjoins Chiron--the powerful transition begins
> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:30:18 GMT
> From: Edmond Wollmann <woll...@my-deja.com>
> Organization: Altair Publications SAN 299-5603
> Newsgroups:alt.astrology, alt.astrology.metapsych, alt.paranormal,
> talk.religion.newage
>
> December 20, 1999 © 1999/2000 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
>
Snip spam.
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Bob Officer wrote:
>
> On 30 Dec 1999 19:37:44 GMT, in alt.astrology ehwol...@aol.com
> (EHWollmann) wrote:
>
> >On December 30, 1999 Pluto will Conjunct Chiron
>
> Also Jupiter will oppose the Moon
>
> >Pluto reflects the powerful transformation that occurs when the beliefs
> >and values of different co- creators interact and refuse to acknowledge
> >that all truths are true.
>
> All truths are not part of the same Truth, some are lies created for
> control.
> Lies like Edmond's arrest for trespassing was "just a traffic ticket".
> Truth Ed's arrest and citation was for a violation of California Penal
> Code.
> These two truth contradict each other.
>
> Ed's writing are scattered with many such errors in logic. Finding
> them is like playing "where's waldo". We call this game "Pin the Crown
> on the Kook". When playing this game with Kettler, we call this game
> "PTCOTK".
>
> With Jupiter opposing Moon, you will see your emotional or inner self
> interaction with authority figures at it's highest tension.
>
> How will a minor planet, Chiron, have so much influence when the
> largest and more powerful planet, Jupiter and Moon will a major
> interaction. Granted such Moon and Jupiter interaction happens much
> more often, but Chiron should have no more influence than any other of
> the 30,000 minor planets discovered to date.
>
> That is correct 30,000+ minor planets.
>
> <Snip of screed>
> --
> thestudent:Thismanisworking,ofcourse.Probablymorethanonejob,oratleast
> afull-timejobplusademandinghobby,ortwo,orthree.withHe'llmakelove
> toyouwhenheisfinishedeating,butthatcouldbeawhile.OTOHyoudon'twanta
> hungryandcrankycrabinyourbed,sohelphimstuffhisfacefirstrising
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© 1999 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Dan Pressnell
"Edmond H. Wollmann" wrote:
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> Metapsych replaced with NANAU. Complaints to ab...@supernews.com
> Follow-ups to poster
Liar. Followups were set to alt.dev.null, you coward.
Dan
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>
> Did you have any metaphysics, astrology or parnormal issues to discuss
> like an adult spammer boy?
Yes, now that you mention it.
Your metaphysics is bullshit.
Your astrology is horse shit.
You have not paranormal abilities whatsoever.
And now for a bonus!
You are an asshole.
Dan
Kevin Burnett
I agree with this post.
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not as they ought to be. Hence the custom among Scythiians of plucking
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Edmond H. Wollmann <arctu...@netscape.net> wrote:
>Metapsych replaced with NANAU.
Fixed. Is it an OCD thing with you, Wollmann?
>Complaints to ab...@supernews.com
They have publicly stated that they are filtering out complaints from you.
Don't you think it is a bit obsessive to send complaints to a filter?
>Follow-ups to poster
No, they weren't, moron.
anonym™
multiple ISP account loser, Jan. '98 Kook of the Month,
bankruptcy-filing jackass, fool, convicted criminal, asshole, bully, and
Kook of the Year 1998 wrote:
>
> Did you have any metaphysics, astrology or parnormal issues to discuss
> like an adult spammer boy?
>
converse with?
--
"Why am I an asshole?" -Edmond Wollmann
Dan Pressnell
> I have an on-topic question. Would it be possible to use astrology to determine
> whether someone claiming to be a psychic counsellor actually has any psychic
> powers?
Maybe the Cave People know the answer to this!
Dan
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>"Edmond H. Wollmann" wrote:
>>
>> Did you have any metaphysics, astrology or parnormal issues to discuss
>> like an adult spammer boy?
>
>
>Your metaphysics is bullshit.
>
>Your astrology is horse shit.
>
>You have not paranormal abilities whatsoever.
>
>And now for a bonus!
>
>You are an asshole.
>
I have an on-topic question. Would it be possible to use astrology to determine
whether someone claiming to be a psychic counsellor actually has any psychic
powers?
--
Phil Harrison
Mr. Sweetness & Light.
anonym™ wrote in message <386C1BCE...@pacbell.net>...
Eddieeeee has done this.
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Does Eddieee's website qualify?
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WHOA!!!!! Eddieee has done both points #7 and #8 in the last few days! He's
in violation of his own charter? Talk about being out of integrity.
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Oh Eddieeeeee, have you *no* shame?
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applications
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> astrological, psychological, and metaphysical methods are welcome.
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I think violating your own charter answers that question, Kook.
Keera A. Fox
As with everything else, one could see if there is *potential* in the
chart, but not whether or not the native lives up to the potential.
Basic stuff would be a preponderance of planets in Water signs (Cancer,
Scorpio, Pisces) or Water houses (4-8-12), or connections between Moon
and/or Mercury and the aforementioned and/or to the "occult" planets
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Phil Harrison
>Phil Harrison <phar...@ramtop.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Dan Pressnell wrote
>> >"Edmond H. Wollmann" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Did you have any metaphysics, astrology or parnormal issues to discuss
>> >> like an adult spammer boy?
>> >
>> >Yes, now that you mention it.
>> >
>> >Your metaphysics is bullshit.
>> >
>> >Your astrology is horse shit.
>> >
>> >You have not paranormal abilities whatsoever.
>> >
>> >And now for a bonus!
>> >
>> >You are an asshole.
>> >
>> >Dan
>>
>> I have an on-topic question. Would it be possible to use astrology to
>> determine whether someone claiming to be a psychic counsellor actually has
>> any psychic powers?
>
>As with everything else, one could see if there is *potential* in the
>chart, but not whether or not the native lives up to the potential.
>
If you had Kettler's birth data, would that say more or less than his refusal to
answer questions on whether he has any psychic abilities?
--
Phil Harrison
Keera A. Fox
Once I was done laughing at what Kettler's chart *might* look like, I
realized that my original answer re potential in the chart still stands.
Also, I've seen enough of him to find any indicator I wanted to his
mindset and whatnot in his chart; makes me prejudiced and therefore
isn't good astrology. (I have this problem when delineating Edmond's
chart, for example, and struggle to keep a neutral and open mind.)