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Edmond Wollmann

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Aug 13, 2004, 11:25:29 AM8/13/04
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Analytical discernment as opposed to projection is the determination
of
the momentum and bias of a belief system and its reinforcing logic,
without becoming caught up in the belief system in question. This can
only be achieved in degrees through self knowledge. Any imbalance in
the
perceptive faculties of an empowered and integral person will be
reflected in the overemphasis upon either the empirical perspective
(Virgo) or the surrendering and "faith" perspective (Pisces) and it is
the efficiency with which the identity deals with information that
determines this level of discernment (Gemini/Sagittarius-information
axis) and their belief in knowingness and trust of self. Awareness and
integrity are ALWAYS the keys. A word to the wise is sufficient. The
lines are fine and there are many.

"The recognition and taking to heart of the subjective determination
of
knowledge in general, and of psychological knowledge in particular,
are
basic conditions for the scientific and impartial evaluation of a
psyche
different from that of the observing subject. These conditions are
fulfilled only when the observer is sufficiently informed about the
nature and scope of his own personality. He can, however, be
sufficiently
informed only when he has in large measure freed himself from the
levelling influence of collective opinions and thereby arrived at a
clear
conception of his own individuality . . . "The collective attitude
hinders the recognition and evaluation of a psychology different from
the
subject's, because the mind that is collectively oriented is quite
incapable of thinking and feeling in any other way than by
projection."
Carl G. Jung

"Cold hearted orb, that rules the night. Removes the colors from our
sight. Red is grey and yellow white. But WE decide which is
right-which is an illusion." The Moody Blues "Nights In White Satin"

Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
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Peter J Ross

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Aug 13, 2004, 12:32:09 PM8/13/04
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On 13 Aug 2004 08:25:29 -0700, Edmond Wollmann wrote:

> Analytical discernment as opposed to projection is

something Eddy "Abuser" Wollmann is incapable of.
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Dan Baldwin

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Aug 13, 2004, 12:59:26 PM8/13/04
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Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>

<flush>

Like I said before - screed for screed, kook.


The Fall of Ed-Wollmann
(with apologies to Gil-galad)

Ed Wollmann was a Usenet kook
With laughter our bellies shook
When he wrote "Orion's a star"
In a.a. where the Spinics are.

His screed was long, his cross posts wide
His lunacy he could not hide
And so a.a. began to fill
With skeptics and their nasty ILK :

"This makes no sense, you've got it wrong
And Einstein never wrote one song
The Moon did not form like that
And I've seen better writing from my cat."

This drove Ed to a mindless rage
And he loudly took the stage :
"I'll nuke your accounts within the week
I was a hoodlum biker, you stalker-freaks."

The news admins were much dismayed
By the newsgroup Ed had made :
"Your charter is a transparent trap
We supersede it, now shut your yap."

So John Ingram took Ed's side
And Al Chameth, with much pride
But the Spinics laughed and shook their heads
For these "posters" were but socks of Ed.

Will Ed stop the Spinic's fun?
Will February never come?
Will we see Excalibur's blow?
So far it seems the answers "no".

For Ed backed down, he ran away
And no arrests were made that day
He refused to go (though it was not far)
To P.F. Chang's, where the won tons are.

(C)2004 Dan Baldwin(et al), GmbH. All rights reserved, especially where
lying, misogynist, scumbag kook PLAGIARISTS like Edmo are concerned.


--
Dan Baldwin, unethical *by design*

I am a minion of Satan, but my powers are mainly administrative.

Hail the un-alive

Cardinal Chunder

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Aug 13, 2004, 2:41:37 PM8/13/04
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Edmond Wollmann wrote:

> Analytical discernment as opposed to projection is the determination
> of
> the momentum and bias of a belief system and its reinforcing logic,
> without becoming caught up in the belief system in question. This can
> only be achieved in degrees through self knowledge.

When you wrote this, did you recognise it for the utter gibberish it is?

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Seth Bullock

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Aug 13, 2004, 8:59:04 PM8/13/04
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Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> Analytical discernment as opposed to projection is the determination
> of
> the momentum and bias of a belief system and its reinforcing logic,
> without becoming caught up in the belief system in question.

How do you measure the "momentum" of a belief system", you fucking nutcase?

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Olaf Krugre

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Aug 13, 2004, 11:37:11 PM8/13/04
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On 13 Aug 2004, Seth Bullock <se...@ydeadwoodsdhardware.net> posted some
news:cfjo4r$u7d$0...@pita.alt.net:

You'd have to go to SDSU to learn how to do that.

Ed's never been one to use good writing habits. Baffle 'em with bullshit
and pass the pomposity please.

John Griffin

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Aug 14, 2004, 2:06:48 AM8/14/04
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alcha...@yahoo.com (Edmond Wollmann) wrote:

> Analytical discernment as opposed to projection is the determination
> of
> the momentum and bias of a belief system and its reinforcing logic,
> without becoming caught up in the belief system in question. This can
> only be achieved in degrees through self knowledge. Any imbalance in
> the
> perceptive faculties of an empowered and integral person will be
> reflected in the overemphasis upon either the empirical perspective
> (Virgo) or the surrendering and "faith" perspective (Pisces) and it is
> the efficiency with which the identity deals with information that
> determines this level of discernment (Gemini/Sagittarius-information
> axis) and their belief in knowingness and trust of self. Awareness and
> integrity are ALWAYS the keys. A word to the wise is sufficient. The
> lines are fine and there are many.

Can you be any less coherent?!

Wollman, that was offal.

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/*-9

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Aug 14, 2004, 1:05:27 PM8/14/04
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"Astral Wildlife" <HO...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
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> I've determined this to be pure horse shit.

how might one purify horseshit anyway?
do you want to be the one to pick
out the little pieces of corn?


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Pedantus

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Aug 15, 2004, 9:29:33 AM8/15/04
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"Edmond Wollmann" <alcha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Analytical discernment as opposed to projection is the determination
> of the momentum and bias of a belief system and its reinforcing logic,
> without becoming caught up in the belief system in question. This can
> only be achieved in degrees through self knowledge. Any imbalance in
> the perceptive faculties of an empowered and integral person will be
> reflected in the overemphasis upon either the empirical perspective
> (Virgo) or the surrendering and "faith" perspective (Pisces)

Nah, you got it all screwed up, Ed...without the faith and trust nonsense:
http://pedantus.free.fr/astrogram10.gif

>and it is
> the efficiency with which the identity deals with information that
> determines this level of discernment (Gemini/Sagittarius-information
> axis) and their belief in knowingness and trust of self. Awareness and
> integrity are ALWAYS the keys. A word to the wise is sufficient. The
> lines are fine and there are many.

Here are a few for you, Ed...:)

http://www.dtm.org/lessons/1378a.htm?cfIndex=137
"
Mentoring: The True Test
[..]
Here are twenty negative traits and the corresponding positive qualities
that God often reveals through those very weaknesses.

Negative trait Transformed into

1 - jumpiness; over-inquisitiveness alertness = quick to meet needs
2 - pettiness; over-attention to detail analytical = discernment in details
3 - sentimentalism; over-emotional compassion = empathy over other's
needs
4 - overbearing; cocky confidence = boldness under pressure
5 - mischievous; devious creative = insights through expression
6 - inflexible; dominant decisive = able to choose clearly
7 - judgmental; critical discerning = able to evaluate wisely
8 - rigidness; unbending discipline = orderliness in details
9 - fanatical; aggressive enthusiasm = inner, productive joy
10 - wordy; melodramatic expressiveness = living communication
11 - indecisiveness; weakness flexibility = able to bend with life
12 - leniency; permissiveness forgiveness = able to clear offenses
13 - insensitive; disrespectful frankness = able to be lovingly honest
14 - stingy; miserly frugality = able to conserve resources
15 - extravagance; wastefulness generosity = able to share resources
16 - self critical; lack of confidence humility = assuming role of a
servant
17 - blind obedience; attachment loyalty = faithfulness to people
18 - insensitivity; unloving objectivity = uninvolved discernment
19 - indifferent; disinterested patience = able to wait for results
20 - touchiness; easily offended sensitivity = able to empathize and love
[..]"


>
> "The recognition and taking to heart of the subjective determination of
> knowledge in general, and of psychological knowledge in particular,are
> basic conditions for the scientific and impartial evaluation of a
> psyche
> different from that of the observing subject. These conditions are
> fulfilled only when the observer is sufficiently informed about the
> nature and scope of his own personality. He can, however, be
> sufficiently
> informed only when he has in large measure freed himself from the
> levelling influence of collective opinions and thereby arrived at a
> clear
> conception of his own individuality . . . "The collective attitude
> hinders the recognition and evaluation of a psychology different from
> the
> subject's, because the mind that is collectively oriented is quite
> incapable of thinking and feeling in any other way than by
> projection."
> Carl G. Jung
>
> "Cold hearted orb, that rules the night.

Ed's cold hearted orb, which rules his continuous night:
http://home.stny.rr.com/pedantus/Quote-a-scope_04.gif

> Removes the colors from our
> sight. Red is grey and yellow white. But WE decide which is
> right-which is an illusion." The Moody Blues "Nights In White Satin"
>
> Ed

Hope this serves you...:)
No Charge.

Your Totally Self-Accredited Astral-Life Counselor and Eminent Superior,
Pedantus Pontificus PPh, TSALC, ES,

Cardinal Chunder

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Aug 15, 2004, 11:42:28 AM8/15/04
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Bob Officer wrote:

> That's doubtful if he understood that concept. Many articles have been
> written about why most people don't see their own short comings and
> failures. Homes are filled with paintings by artists with little or no
> ability and zero talent. Record stores are filled with lackluster voices
> and song written by hack. Book stores are fulled with second rate writers.
> School rooms are filled with teachers that couldn't teach a child how to
> learn. And Worst of all Our home is flooded with inane humor from the TV
> dulling the sense and lulling the mind.
>

Uncle Al occasionally posts a link which describes Eddie quite well:

http://www.apa.org/journals/psp/psp7761121.html

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Rob Duncan

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Aug 16, 2004, 5:43:13 PM8/16/04
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"Cardinal Chunder" <c...@foo.no.spam.xyzabcfghllaa.com> wrote in message
news:cfj20...@news1.newsguy.com...

Whats writte makes perfect sence. Perhaps you need to reread it?


Rob


Rob Duncan

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Aug 16, 2004, 5:49:43 PM8/16/04
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"Bob Officer" <bobof...@invalid.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 16:42:28 +0100, in alt.astrology, Cardinal Chunder
> Thanks again for this link.
>
> I brought this up for discussion a few years ago. I then misplaced the
> link. Thanks to you and Uncle AL I again have this great link.
>
> Abstract
> People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many
> social and intellectual domains. The authors suggest that this
> overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are unskilled in these
> domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach erroneous
> conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them
> of the metacognitive ability to realize it. Across 4 studies, the authors
> found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of humor,
> grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test performance and
> ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they
> estimated themselves to be in the 62nd. Several analyses linked this
> miscalibration to deficits in metacognitive skill, or the capacity to
> distinguish accuracy from error. Paradoxically, improving the skills of
> participants, and thus increasing their metacognitive competence, helped
> them recognize the limitations of their abilities.
>
> Great article and explains much of Eddy's problems.
>
>
> --
> Aktohdi

Im suprised people are having a hard time understanding what was written.
You do know that words often have more than just a few meanings, right?
Perhaps peoples take on what they read was from a perspective that lead
inexorably to an illogical conclusion?


Rob


Mr. 4X

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Aug 16, 2004, 6:07:14 PM8/16/04
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alcha...@yahoo.com (Edmond Wollmann) wrote in message
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> Analytical discernment as opposed to projection is the determination
> of
> the momentum and bias of a belief system and its reinforcing logic,
> without becoming caught up in the belief system in question.

You should try that with YOUR 'belief system'.

Seth Bullock

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Aug 16, 2004, 6:17:17 PM8/16/04
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1. What's

2. written

3. sense


That's three spelling and punctuation mistakes in one short, five word
sentence.

Go back to third grade, you illiterate fucking moron.

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Cardinal Chunder

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Aug 17, 2004, 8:58:20 AM8/17/04
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Rob Duncan wrote:

Then perhaps then you, Supreme Master of English (12th Dan), might toss
us mere mortals a bone. As it makes perfect "sence", explain it to us in
plain English.

I won't tax you by deciphering the whole screed. Just the first sentence
will do.

Here are some tips to help you in your quest:

http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/plainenglishguide.html

Cujo DeSockpuppet

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Aug 17, 2004, 9:27:20 AM8/17/04
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Cardinal Chunder <c...@foo.no.spam.xyzabcfghllaa.com> wrote in
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This might just help:

http://www.petitmorte.net/cujo/edlish.html

Y'all kin thanks me later an' stuff, y'hear?

--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in
dfw.*, alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych.
Winner of the 8/2000 & 2/2003 HL&S award. Hail Petitmorte!
Colonel of the Fanatic Legion. FL# 555-PLNTY Motto: ABUNDANCE!.
Official Slapper of Spamming Mary the Drama Queen. Meow.
"For the sake of the newsgroup I am going to get off for good." - Yet
another of Edmo's many lies.

Edmond H. Wollmann

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Aug 17, 2004, 11:48:30 AM8/17/04
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Spàmster

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Aug 17, 2004, 12:05:51 PM8/17/04
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Edmond H. Wollmann wrote:

> http://groups.google.com

Yawn.

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Chris Krolczyk

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Aug 17, 2004, 7:01:41 PM8/17/04
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alcha...@yahoo.com (Edmond H. Wollmann) wrote in message news:<ca170cc9.04081...@posting.google.com>...

> http://groups.google.com/edmoscreed/

Why the URL, Edmo? Did *another* hard drive go up
in flames trying to store your collected spam?

-Chris Krolczyk

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