Ed, if you wish to link to my photograph, please ask
Rev Fredric L. Rice
simply _ask_ me through e-mail and I will send you written permission,
PGP signed if you wish, to link to the photograph at:
http://www.skeptictank.org/fricesml.jpg
I won't condone you stealing materials from my organization. You may
ask politely like a civilized citizen.
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el...@no.spam
Rev Fredric L. Rice <fr...@SPAMNOTlinkline.com> wrote:
>Ed, if you wish to have my photograph appear on your web site, please
>simply _ask_ me through e-mail and I will send you written permission,
>PGP signed if you wish, to link to the photograph at:
>
> http://www.skeptictank.org/fricesml.jpg
>
>I won't condone you stealing materials from my organization. You may
>ask politely like a civilized citizen.
I predict that Wollmann will not be capable of asking politely.
Lou Minatti™
IRRRRREELLLLLAAVEEEENNNNT! What YOU don't realize is Ed doesn't abide by
your rules. Ed lives life Edmo-Style. Complaints sent! Snip!
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Rev Fredric L. Rice
You know, I didn't consider that. There's some marked paranoia being
exhibited and it could be that he'll think it's some kind of trap. I
can't think of any way I could conceivably convince him that I'm quite
serious. I mean it's just a photograph; it's not Soviet secrets, after
all.
The Harlequin Grendel
>el...@no.spam () wrote:
>>In article <tcf18se...@corp.supernews.com>,
>>Rev Fredric L. Rice <fr...@SPAMNOTlinkline.com> wrote:
>>>Ed, if you wish to have my photograph appear on your web site, please
>>>simply _ask_ me through e-mail and I will send you written permission,
>>>PGP signed if you wish, to link to the photograph at:
>>> http://www.skeptictank.org/fricesml.jpg
>>>I won't condone you stealing materials from my organization. You may
>>>ask politely like a civilized citizen.
If he snagged the picture and put it up, it could be argued as
infringement; it could (depending on how it was used, be argued as fair
use); however...
>>I predict that Wollmann will not be capable of asking politely.
>You know, I didn't consider that. There's some marked paranoia being
>exhibited and it could be that he'll think it's some kind of trap. I
>can't think of any way I could conceivably convince him that I'm quite
>serious. I mean it's just a photograph; it's not Soviet secrets, after
>all.
...there's always a copy of the picture stored privately on
the hard disk of anyone. So the difference with his copy is that it's
displayed publically.
If he instead links [LINKs, not stores] the picture, (and thus
whomever views his page, downloads the picture from your storage space) then
he is well within fair usage rules - if that wasn't fair use, then anybody
linking to any page (which is inclusive of elements in a page) would have to
ask permission...and the whole web would collapse. Anyone posting to USENet a
URL to a page they don't own, or linking on their page to a URL they don't
own, etc., would be guilty of 'stealing'.
[This is not a defense of Ed - Ed routinely plagarizes and infringes
copyright all over the place - but this is essentially imposing a rule on Ed
that doesn't apply to anyone else, anywhere. You might be able to make it
stick with his provider, but it's bad precedent.]
ash
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el...@no.spam
The Harlequin Grendel <justa...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> If he instead links [LINKs, not stores] the picture, (and thus
>whomever views his page, downloads the picture from your storage space) then
>he is well within fair usage rules - if that wasn't fair use, then anybody
>linking to any page (which is inclusive of elements in a page) would have to
>ask permission...and the whole web would collapse. Anyone posting to USENet a
>URL to a page they don't own, or linking on their page to a URL they don't
>own, etc., would be guilty of 'stealing'.
The courts haven't always agreed with deep linking. Remember it'd be
an img link not a hyperlink anchor. There was a fairly big case about
that practice a few years ago.
pz
But in the real world, on a practical basis, there are hundreds of
thousands of "deep links". Frankly, I think Ed oughta link to it and
see if Rice does anything, So far, he's already kookily bluffed a
lawsuit and then weaseled out of it. Two kooks making phony lawsuit
threats; now THAT'S entertainment!
The Harlequin Grendel
>> If he instead links [LINKs, not stores] the picture, (and thus
>>whomever views his page, downloads the picture from your storage space) then
>>he is well within fair usage rules - if that wasn't fair use, then anybody
>>linking to any page (which is inclusive of elements in a page) would have to
>>ask permission...and the whole web would collapse. Anyone posting to USENet
a
>>URL to a page they don't own, or linking on their page to a URL they don't
>>own, etc., would be guilty of 'stealing'.
>The courts haven't always agreed with deep linking. Remember it'd be
>an img link not a hyperlink anchor.
Yes...
>There was a fairly big case about that practice a few years ago.
And I believe that one came out a circuit court and hasn't been
reviewed by the Supreme Court.
And is probably a dubious decision. (I say probably because I haven't
read the decision.)
ash
['It's still bad precedent either way.']
EHWollmann
<tcf18se...@corp.supernews.com>
>Ed, if you wish to have my photograph appear on your web site, please
Snip! I don't want it. Its probably not you anyway, no one could seriously look
that stupid.
All that happened stalker, was that you got Verio net fired!
Did you have any astrology to discuss?
How about why Saturn opposition Saturn reflects the acceleration of belief
manifestation? Come, let us engage.
Written 8/86
Saturn Opposition Saturn; View To Reality
© 1998 Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A. /Altair Publications
As astrologers we seek to corroborate human behavior and events to
astrological patterns. As human beings experiencing developmental
growth, we seek justification for anxiety and negative experience.
The conscious mind seeks to clarify and justify identity importance.
This conscious focus complicates awareness of necessary developmental
growth within time. The child does not consciously choose responsible
action. Responsibility is the ability to respond to the environment
(it's reality creation).
This is learned (through conscious mind function). The child (conscious
identity, Mars) seeks to prove it's ego importance. The parental
structure is the identity's first arena of reality testing. Ego
projection (first house) and separation instincts are checked or
dominated (socialized) by the external control of the parents (usually
the father, the tenth house).This is the basis for reality creation,
i.e. the identity seeks to establish itself as an individual (first house) then
meets with three dimensional controls (tenth house) which in turn forms a
perception about reality as a belief that structures the subconscious inner
self (e-motional identity establishment). This belief patterning is then
reflected through attempts to be socially accepted, and possibly projection
(seventh house), in interaction through others.
If the identity forms the belief about this projection-that
reinforcement of the identity will be difficult i.e. through perceived
parental indifference, overcompensation must ensue. Overcompensation
itself implies a defense against the self's perceived condition. Whether
tension (opposition=awareness, square=fulfillment) is welcomed or resisted,
determines the level of developmental resolution and /or
fulfillment. The process continues to repeat (spiraling upward or
downward) and is meant to accelerate to greater levels of self awareness as to
how developmental experience has been created by the self's definitions and
beliefs about reality.
Saturn, Capricorn, and the tenth house represent full externalization
in three dimensional reality. The identity's cumulative attempts to store
belief systems that maintain security towards identity e-motional
establishment (the reaction point of the fourth house). Saturn tests
your ability to consciously perceive what your beliefs about reality
actualize and create. Trines to Saturn; the successful integration of long term
attitudinal belief development in pragmatic terms, squares reflect a need to
develop realism (since realism is relative third density or dimension is what
is meant here), and oppositions; a need to externalize and test the realism or
physical manifestation of the planet opposed.
We must realize that parental conflict is a reflection of existing
belief patterning and momentums. The horoscope exists before parental
interaction at the physical level. The parents and the environment act
as catalysts for belief system developmental tension.
Saturn reflects the externalization of beliefs when entering into
quadrature or conjunction to a planet, to itself, or into other
developmental networks (T-square, Grand cross etc.). The belief system
in question is then challenged by three dimensional confrontation. It is easy
to construct or invent something mentally, however when a model is
physicalized, more often than not, gears do not mesh as imagined. In the belief
system development described above (1st, 4th, 7th and 10th) the conscious mind
may not perceive experiences as the resultant effect of attempts at belief
system reinforcement (to maintain sameness) that are created by the identity
and reflected through the environment. The only boundaries are the ones imposed
by the self determined by awareness. As counselors we must maintain the
perspective that the horoscope only reflects identity, and the environment
reflects
the identity's adjustment through and in development. "Losses" or
"limitations" are the cumulative effects of negative belief system
patterning and the conscious experience of same. We create our own
reality-LITERALLY. Saturn reflects that reality back to us either as a
positive strategic effectiveness of need fulfillment and identity
actualization ("success"=trine) or as a lack of realistic appraisal
(gears that don't mesh) of the strategy necessary for identity
manifestation and externalization ("limitations"=square opposition).
Saturn by sign and house will indicate where overcompensation must
occur as a response to the belief of incompetency in that realm (or fear, which
is the same thing). This life function is so crystallized in belief patterning
that client confirmation is rarely difficult (depending on aspects, modes
etc.). In turn the aspect networks will suggest how developmentally tense the
perceived reality is. However, Saturn in one house emphasis (Angular,
Succeedant, Cadent) implies tension by reaction in the correlating mode. Saturn
in five (difficulty giving love) implies Saturn in two (low self worth or
esteem). Others opinions (9th) affects thinking (3rd) and perspective (6th and
12th). Self projection confidence (1st) is dependent upon feelings of emotional
security (4th), and vice-versa.
Connecting belief systems and physical manifestation takes skilled
corroboration from the astrologer to past Saturn quadratures and
aspects, as well as a thorough knowledge of the corresponding rulerships of
signs and planets to physical structures of the body. High blood pressure can
be linked to Mars in Leo , Moon opposition Mars, and Mars opposition Uranus
etc., where it apparent that temperament and a belief in powerlessness is high.
Relating these insights to the client is usually not necessary, however
engaging in dialogue allows us to detect temperamental situations, and reflect
this knowledge back to the client so that a recognition of the developmental
nature of the energy can enhance self awareness. Not welcoming tension is where
all dis-ease arises from. For most clients, physical events such as "accidents"
are not as easily seen as a creation of unconscious beliefs as are relationship
difficulties. This is because of our strict training to believe that physical
reality exists outside of us.
In philosophical terms, life is an awareness lesson for the conscious
self in the meeting of itself. When the student is ready, the
developmental experience appears, reflected in planetary structure and
signature throughout our development in time. The horoscope (the planets
,signs, galaxy) does not compel, impel, influence or energize. It reflects the
movement and momentum of our will, beliefs, energy and
development, just as we reflect it as a small part of the "All That Is"
whole. The planets are within, and the transits of the planets reflect
at what times these apparently external concepts are physically manifested.
Christ said "The Kingdom of Heaven is within you". Our actions are just
re-actions to the prescription by the inner self towards the education of the
conscious mind, of it's role, narrowness, and focus on the illusion of three
dimensional reality.
The following examples are of typical cliental from this writer's
files. Analysis begins with psychodynamic interpretation, and ends with belief
system physical confirmation. The outside wheel represents the transits of the
planets at the first revolution of transitting Saturn Opposition natal Saturn.
This is the first externalization of implied
overcompensation inherent in the natal premise and sets the tone for
future Saturn quadratures in the externalization of our beliefs about
reality. These methods are used for every client.
Horoscope #1 1/24/51 10:33 am 117w03-32n46 Sat opp Sat 3/21/67
On the following page is the horoscope of a female, age 35, beautiful,
and at the time of consultation, overweight. Upon arrival she presented
a very meek demeanor (Mars in Pisces rules 1, Saturn in Libra). Her
presentation did not accurately reflect the remainder of the horoscope
however. The Sun/Moon blend implies an especially strong conflict
between the intellect and the emotions, giving love (creative extension Moon in
5 in Leo, Sun rules 5), the identity's sense of emotional security (Moon rules
4) and the alteration of perspective through deep emotional value exchange
(Moon conjunct Pluto, Pluto rules 8). Self worth is under awareness tension in
relationships and undermines emotional security (Venus opposition the Moon from
5 to 11. Venus rules 2 and 7, the Moon rules 4). A strong analytical
discernment of belief structure, is made at a glance.
Saturn is in Libra in the 6th house and is retrograde. Overcompensatory
cooperation and inferiority feelings about the life direction that
relationships may take (Saturn rules the 10th). Saturn in Libra implies a fear
of not being socially accepted, a need to acquiesce. The fears of not being
accepted, allow the individual to vacillate between agreement and rejection.
Alternating resentment for being controlled (allowing themselves to be),
followed by acquiescence, resentment, acquiescence, etc.. Just understanding
the Saturn placement allows us a very good understanding of a very powerful
belief momentum. Aspects determine how developmentally tense the structure is.
Saturn forms the base of a T-square between it and the Mercury/Uranus
opposition in Cadent houses.
An information (3rd and 9th)/perspective (6th and 12th)crisis,(Cadent,
Mercury rules 6 and 3) about love received and hopes for the future
(Uranus rules 11). The 5th and 11th emphasis implies sexual concerns. We know
that self worth is under tension and giving love can be
difficult-and yet in this case powerful creative and sexual drives are
evident (Moon conjunct Pluto in Leo in 5). Orgasm was not experienced
during intercourse, but only through fantasy during masturbation. The
Pisces Mars ruling the ascendent complicates the Saturn in Libra by
adding a need for sensitivity and lessens aggression. Venus (the
dispositor of Saturn) is in awareness tension with the Moon/Pluto
conjunction. Temperamental thinking (Mercury opposition Uranus) works
against practical application and communication, making fantasy (Venus
trine Neptune) a less threatening solution. A self isolation pattern
that lasted 19 years.
This experience exists as a belief about reality in probability form at birth
as reflected by our deductions thus far. The transits at the first Saturn
opposed Saturn reflect this probability manifestation powerfully.
Transiting Saturn ruling the tenth (the father) completes a grand cross
with the natal Saturn, Mercury, and Uranus. Transiting Venus squares
the natal Sun; an identity conflict (1st house) about the life direction (10th
house) of love given and creative extension (Sun rules 5). Transit Mars opposes
transit Venus and squares natal Sun. Tremendous identity/relationship conflict.
Venus rules 7, Mars rules 1! Transiting Moon in four opposes the natal Sun and
completes a grand cross from the fourth house (emotional security). Transiting
Neptune also squares the natal Pluto/Moon opposed Venus and rules 12. The law
of momentum flow continues to reinforce initial deductions, the conclusions are
not difficult.
Client confirmation; During this period this sixteen year old became
pregnant (Sun rules 5, Saturn opposed Saturn from 6 to 12) by her high
school sweetheart whom she admittedly was not in love with at the time.
She decided to have the child (5th) under feelings of guilt (Saturn in
Libra, self worth concerns) and extreme pressure from the father
(Saturn, the 10th). This life of repressed identity and creativity endured
until Saturn returned to the birth position 15 years later, when she divorced
went back to her music and art interests, and concentrated on self-development.
She lost a significant amount of weight on her new diet (the cessation of
"weighting").
The tensions discussed in the natal analysis became physically
externalized through this period of unfulfilling relationship. A harsh
lesson in the manifestation of relationship fears (uz) verses
individuality development (q,i-bg), within time (u).
Horoscope #2 11/30/37 2:18 am 087w39 41n52 Sat opp Sat 11/2/50
This horoscope is that of a male, age 49 at the time of consultation.
Saturn, the ruler of the 4th house (the establishment of the identity)
is in a T-square configuration, opposition Neptune and square Mercury from the
6th in Pisces. Again Saturn in the 6th implies overcompensatory discrimination
in preparation for relationship (the 6th is the 12th of the 7th). Saturn in
Pisces reflects fears of self-introspection and a belief that the identity may
be severely misunderstood and have to suffer to gain insight. Under
developmental tension this self pity may be magnified. Saturn opposed Neptune
(the dispositor of Saturn) and in square to Mercury in Sagittarius, reflects a
dissolving, confusing, and impressionable (Neptune) rationalizing and blurry
(Mercury in Sagittarius square Saturn) thinking and perspective (3rd, 6th, 9th,
12th houses, with Mercury ruling two of them). Jupiter, the Sun sign ruler and
dispositor of Mercury opposes Pluto, the ruler of 2. Self worth concerns do not
allow for clear thinking. Cooperation will be difficult. Saturn completes a
grand trine with Pluto (10), and Venus (2) creating an emotional closed circuit
defense against the perceived threat to value interaction (Pluto rules 2, and
Venus rules 8). The early environment threatened the identity's emotional
security and establishment (Saturn rules 4). A belief about reality that will
be reflected through the early environment and parental structure. The Moon
(mother) is in Scorpio. The reigning need for emotional self worth significance
(2nd), implies a severe deprivation of same. The Moon opposes Uranus and
squares Mars, with Uranus disposing of Mars. The need for individuality
recognition (Uranus) tries to prove this uniqueness by being different
(Aquarius).
Relationships (the 7th, ruled by Mars) would need to be different and
difficult to maintain (Uranus in 7), and giving love would threaten
emotional security (Moon) and individuality (Uranus).
The impact and externalization crisis as shown by transiting Saturn
opposed natal Saturn at age thirteen is the first of three oppositions.
Saturn retrograded and again opposed Saturn, turned direct, and opposed
it a final time. This process occurs often and signifies a complex
belief structure with accompanying issues, not easily resolved. Space limits a
discourse on this subject, and we will deal with the most important for the
purpose of this example, the initial opposition.
At first glance, we see Saturn opposed Saturn from the 12th square
transiting Mars in 3 conjunct natal Mercury. The informational
perspective complex discussed in natal delineation, is being profoundly
challenged through relationships (Mars ruling 7) possibly involving
brothers and sisters (3rd house). The natal Moon, Uranus, Mars T-square
is being triggered by transit Venus, Sun, Mercury (self worth
references, the mother). The transiting Pluto opposition transiting Jupiter
from 11 to 5, completes a T-square with natal Venus (self worth, love given and
received).
The prudent question to the client about these
issues of self worth with the mother at this time, prompted immediate
discourse on the mother's alcoholism (Neptune) and violence (Mars) at
this time. The beatings and unwarranted abuse stemmed from her
favoritism of his brother and distaste for him (3rd house references). He
couldn't do anything right. This belief manifested in his relationships with
women until one year before this consultation, during which all of his
relationships were homosexual. His reason for consultation was tension over his
first close female relationship (Saturn transiting Venus) during the past year
and the probability of break up based on his tremendous fear of being taken
advantage of (Moon in Scorpio, 2nd house reference, Grand trine in Water signs)
and not being valued over others in the relationship. His response was to go
back to living alone with his own interests (Grand trine in Water, Mercury,
Neptune, Saturn T-square) as women would just never be sensitive and
understanding enough (Saturn in Pisces) and disrupt his security (Saturn ruling
4). The challenge is to build self worth and analytical insight through
successful relationships with trust. We are not responsible for people-only
responsible to them, to be as much as we can be with integrity.
Horoscope #3 8/31/57 9:50 am cdt 087w39 41n52 Sat opp Sat 5/15/72
This chart is that of a female, 22 years of age at consultation. Self
worth issues (2nd house) are obviously very problematic. The Sun, Mars
and Pluto in 11 (love received, future speculation) are all squaring the
Moon/Saturn conjunction. Saturn in 2 implies a feeling of low self worth and
with the Moon and Saturn in Sagittarius (the greatest need and fear) a strong
belief that the opinions and intellect will not be respected. The Moon and
Saturn both rule the parental axis (4th and 10th)-a crisis in personal worth
reflected through parental relationship. Saturn squares the Sun ruler of 11
(love received), Pluto ruler of the 2nd (self worth), Mars ruler of the 7th
(relationship reflection), and is the ruler of the 4th (identity establishment
and emotional security). The Moon squares the same planets. Venus in 12 in
Libra, indicates a very refined and isolated sense of beauty and relationship
needs. There are no oppositions, and all of the planets are grouped on the
eastern hemisphere of the chart, to defend the sensitivity of the self
projection and identity (the ascendent). Externalization would be difficult.
Neptune in 1 confirms idealism and identity sacrifice. A loss of focus and
direction. Mars square Saturn implies poor judgement (analytical discernment)
in clarifying (Mars in Virgo) the kind of love needed for identity
establishment and self worth reinforcement (Saturn in 2, ruler of 4) in
relationships (Mars rules 7). Energy for acclaim and love, clashes with a
feeling of being undeserving.
The transits at transit Saturn opposition Saturn at age 15, graphically
illustrates the probability of belief manifestation promised in the natal
chart. Transiting Saturn, ruler of 4 is in 8 and squares the natal Sun and
opposes natal Saturn. Self worth belief systems would be powerfully
externalized (opposition=awareness) through love received by others (Sun in
11). Transiting Sun is opposed the natal Moon and square natal Pluto.
How will this identity/worth tension be manifested into reality? Transit Uranus
(the avant guard, and awakener) is exactly conjunct the private idealism Venus
in 12 and rules 5. The refined, idealistic, and private sense of beauty (Venus)
was shocked behind the scenes (Uranus and 12) triggering self worth/identity
concerns through the parental structure (Saturn and Moon ruling the parental
axis of 4/10). She was raped by her stepfather on this date. This incident was
known only by her and the stepfather and now myself. She reported that
intercourse continued for several years. There was great anxiety and self worth
conflicts and feared that her mother knew (Moon aspects). She came for the
consultation originally to get reinforcement for her decision to marry her
fiance, and left deciding that she probably wasn't ready.
The challenge is to develop a healthy sense of self worth through self
directed fulfillment, and a recognition that every individual is as
powerful as he or she needs to be to create whatever they desire to
create in their reality, without having to hurt themselves or anyone
else in order to create it.
It is very striking, the photograph of developmental challenge
signified by transiting Saturn opposed natal Saturn. Not only can it indicate
probable events connected to an individual's beliefs/perceptions about reality,
but can confirm the call to fulfillment at the Saturn return.
They are not always this dramatic. Many individuals choose not to
remember them, so confirmation may be difficult.
It is obvious to this writer that restructuring the conscious and
subconscious belief systems through an analytically discerning awareness of
self-which is operationally demonstrable through a skilled
delineation of an accurate horoscope-is the path to restructuring externalized
physical reality. The point of power is always in the present. Mind and matter
are the same thing! Plato said "The purpose of living, is to discover the
purpose of living". When this level of perspective and awareness are reached,
fate certainly becomes unrecognized choice.
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
(c) 2001 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
http://www.astroconsulting.com
pz
failed predictor, plagiarist, thief, asshole, Usenet spammer, 20-time
Net and ISP account loser, physical stalker, unlicensed fraudulent
"counselor" who has sex with his "clients", borrows money from them,
then publicly discloses their private communications after they call him
on his lack of ethics, illegally operating an astrology business in San
Diego, convicted in San Diego on 6/28/98 of a misdemeanor (PC 555-
Unlawful Entry), fined, and placed on probation, sued in San Diego for
Unlawful Detainer and evicted in 3/96, past violator of Federal and
State game laws for abusing wildlife, described, punished, and banned
from University servers as an abuser by SDSU, and remorseless confessed
killer of another human being wrote:
>
> > fr...@spinics.SPAMnet (Rev Fredric L. Rice) wrote in Message-ID:
> <tcf18se...@corp.supernews.com>
>
> >Ed, if you wish to have my photograph appear on your web site, please
>
> Snip! I don't want it.
Then why did you have it up so long?
Ed Wollmann, Boy who cried Wolf and Fox who Thought the Grapes were
Sour, all rolled into one!
> Its probably not you anyway,
So you admit you had someone else's picture for that long of a time?
Making defamatory comments about an innocent person! Sounds like your
paranoid, irrational lashing-out style, kook!
> no one could seriously look
> that stupid.
But *you* look even *stupider*, stupid!
>
> All that happened stalker,
Stalker?
>was that you got Verio net fired!
Translation: Verio Booted Wollmann!
He moved it to EarthStink!
http://www.networksolutions.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois?STRING=astroconsulting.com&STRING=Search
ANOTHER EXCALIBUR-LIKE BLOW!
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>
> Did you have any astrology to discuss?
Yes. What aspects of your birth chart show your Karma to be so email-centric?
What's in the stars when Micro$haft buys up EarthStink and then you'll
REALLY see an iron blade come down on your shenanigans!
Lili C Love
Lili C Love
EHWollmann <ehwol...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010405035001...@ng-fc1.aol.com...
> > fr...@spinics.SPAMnet (Rev Fredric L. Rice) wrote in Message-ID:
> <tcf18se...@corp.supernews.com>
>
> >Ed, if you wish to have my photograph appear on your web site, please
>
> Snip! I don't want it. Its probably not you anyway, no one could seriously
look
> that stupid.
>
> All that happened stalker, was that you got Verio net fired!
How can a web hosting service get fired?
Oh... I get it. You were booted?
> Did you have any astrology to discuss?
>
> How about why Saturn opposition Saturn reflects the acceleration of belief
> manifestation? Come, let us engage.
>
You say that as though you want a dialogue. Instead, what you really want
is to spam this tired old monologue, _a_gain.
> Written 8/86
And posted probably 886 times since then.
SNIP!
Spamster
EHWollmann wrote:
> > fr...@spinics.SPAMnet (Rev Fredric L. Rice) wrote in Message-ID:
> <tcf18se...@corp.supernews.com>
>
> >Ed, if you wish to have my photograph appear on your web site, please
>
> Snip! I don't want it. Its probably not you anyway, no one could seriously look
> that stupid.
>
I see you haven't looked in a mirror lately.
el...@no.spam
EHWollmann <ehwol...@aol.com> wrote:
>All that happened stalker, was that you got Verio net fired!
Translation: Edie got spanked again.
>Did you have any astrology to discuss?
You aren't capable of discussing astrology, Wollmann. It is obvious
that you don't know anything about astrology since all you can do is
spew stuff you've copied and run through the blender.
a
Curious, Edie, that you "fired" Verio before your superior brain
thought to get your scam astrology site fully set up on another
provider.
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--
"Orion is a star." -- Edmond Wollmann, <36EF1B...@yahooo.com>
Rev Fredric L. Rice
We see the DMCA to be applied in cases where links are provided to
infringing materials also. It was posted out to me today by a reader
who I believe was somewhere in Europe that the DMCA doesn't apply to
anyone outside the United States and that the United States has a lot
of really stupid copyright laws. Making the linking to infringing
material a civially actionable offense is just plain stupid.
Rev Fredric L. Rice
>> fr...@spinics.SPAMnet (Rev Fredric L. Rice) wrote in Message-ID:
><tcf18se...@corp.supernews.com>
>> Ed, if you wish to have my photograph appear on your web site, please
> Snip! I don't want it. Its probably not you anyway,
> no one could seriously look that stupid.
I'll take that as confirmation that you have no intention of stealing
my property ever again. Still, if you ever feel the need to display my
photograph in the future, just let me know and I'll send you confirmation
that you may do so.
> All that happened stalker, was that you got Verio net fired!
Verio.NET is from all appearances a highly professional organization
which has a deserved reputation for being professionally run. I was and
remain quite impressed by their operation. It's something one doesn't
see in larger ISPs and Hosts -- like EarthLink.NET, as an example -- and
I consider it a damn shame that I didn't acquire stock in the company
when it was formed.
The suggestion that anybody but _you_ is responsible for _your_ actions
is one of the behavioral patterns I'm sure that Verio had to deal with
when talking with you. The fact that they remained professional and
polite when working with both yourself and myself tells me that Verio
is a sharp, professional, and rather unique ISP out on the Internet today.
I'm sorry that Verio had to dismiss you as a subscriber yet you have no
one to blame but yourself. Hopefully you'll think twice about lifting
other people's photographs and using them without asking.