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fomal...@earthlink.net

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Jul 31, 2005, 12:40:00 PM7/31/05
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Hi,

I found Lucy Lawless' birthdate

March 29, 1968
Auckland, New Zealand
time is unknown

Sun is around 9'30 Aries

Her Xena is in 11'38 Aries

So she has Sun conjunct Xena with around 2 degree orb.

Being Xena was her destiny.

heheheeheh

This is funny.

Raymond

LibraLove

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Jul 31, 2005, 6:30:28 PM7/31/05
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Perfect example regarding my earlier complaint. I have no idea which of
several threads is appropriate for this post but it seems to fit here
best perhaps:

Raymond,

You may find this funny as well, since there are No coincidences.

The new planet was conjunct my Leo Ascendant at birth and I AM a sort
of cheesy, scrappy babe -- a blonde Amazon as it were.

I did not terrorize Greece, but Lubbock, Texas and I have had to tackle
things alone that many women require a man to help with or they'd fold.


I am still searching for my bard friend, Gabrielle, so together we can
seek adventure and fight the forces of evil, but even a Gabriel will
do.

LOL ;-) -- LL

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LibraLove

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Aug 3, 2005, 12:40:09 PM8/3/05
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Thanks, Hermes. I see my confusion now in the table by fomalhautis.

So it is EL61that sitting is on my Asc. and the Xena (warrior princess)
is exactly square my Sun in Cancer in the 11th from the 9th house.
Jupiter on my Asc. in Leo would dispose that Sun and rules my 5th
house. Hmnn... so they both would be important to me personally then.

I wonder if Xena in the 9th square my Sun could be an example of the
time I brought my African-American lawyer to my son's fancy-pancy rich
neighborhood, all-white school district and threatened them if they
didn't stop abusing him and me. I had a vice-principal call and harrass
me daily because I am a sole femme. Sole femme in Texas = fair game.

My son has an hispanic surname, as do I, by virtue of his father's
Brazillian heritage. We live off the "wrong street" in the school
district. At one point one of my son's counselors came over expecting
us to live in a fallen down trailer like some of our neighbors down the
road and exclaimed out loud, "Oh wow. You live in a nicer house than I
do!"

I think we were targeted because I was alone (no man with a shotgun
standing behind me), and we had hispanic surnames, and lived off the
"wrong side of the tracks", so I had to go into battle regularly and
continued to do so until I got my son out of the fancy pancy high
school in the district.

My son became accustomed to it -- school meetings where when they said
something really stupid, he would look at me and start sliding slowly
out of his chair in case he had to duck under the table when the fur
started to fly. LOL

Hmnn... about Gabriel. Don't think I have ever known anyone BUT
sexually ambivalent men (except maybe one or two), and none have agreed
to stand behind me with a shotgun here in Texas.

Best to You -- LL

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LibraLove

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Aug 3, 2005, 11:20:05 PM8/3/05
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More clearly put, my Xena is in Aries is in my 9th house exactly square
my Sun is in the 11th -- not sure about your question.

I think our society tries to pigeonhole people's sexuality. I remember
when my ex- husband began his overtly homosexual partnership a few
years after our divorce a friend of mine said, "He's Brazilian, so...
sexuality is not as cut and dry as it is in this society of ours". She
may be right on on that account.

I think of one of my favorite Brazilian actresses, Sonia Braga, who
played in a few sexy movies as a hetero female, may be gay or maybe
not. I have heard she is. You may remember "Gabriela" and "Dona Flor
and her Two Husbands" and a fairly recent part on "Sex in the City" as
the lesbian lover of one of the women in the show. She was also
involved with Robert Redford for a few years I believe.

One older woman friend of mine after 3-4 husbands/live-in male
relationships, now has a female partner. My ex-husband was a perfectly
fine husband sexually and father of our son until I could not make
enough money to keep up with all of our shopping and he had problems
with the bigotry and attitude against hispanics (and very dark haired
people period) in Texas and moved back to NYC after 8-1/2 years.

He and his partner live in a NYC apartment with our son who attends
college at UCLA (university on the corner of Lexington Avenue) or
Baruch College for business. My son was worried that since his father
turned out to be gay, maybe I was lesbian since he has never seen me
with anyone but an embarassing moment with Mr. Man. That moment lead to
13 years of celibacy for me and a lot of time to play the hot,
handsome, sexy bachelor for Mr. Man. LOL

Anyway, I think you maybe be treading on a slippery slope with dividing
up the sexual appetites in people, like my friend said about
Brazilians, sexuality is just NOT all that cut and dry. People are very
flexible, IMO, in that regard and a sexual lifestyle during one decade
in their life may or may not work in following the decades.

My sexual feelings toward Mr. Man are because he is so intelligent,
funny, handsome and he kisses so good. He also has the physical
equipment I prefer, so he is my choice. I have never met a woman I was
sexually attracted to, but who knows if that could happen. I firmly
believe from life's experience that I it is wise to never say never
about most things except those that are cruel or illegal.

Best regards, LL

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LibraLove

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Aug 4, 2005, 2:01:18 PM8/4/05
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To further relate to the symbolism of names with Sonia Braga in one of
her most famous movies "Gabriela" (feminine for Gabriel), which you
call sexually ambivalent. Seems like it may fit her well.

http://ofcs.rottentomatoes.com/click/movie-1008043/reviews.php?critic=movies&sortby=default&page=1&rid=1311112

But even so she plays highly sexual hetero women until the recent "Sex
in the City".

My astrocartography Venus line goes through Rio, where my last husband
was born and lived. After hearing a great Astrocartography seminar in
NYC, I had thought of traveling to Rio for the purpose of finding a
lover. But I met my husband from Rio on the beach in NY a year or so
later.

My original middle name and the one my mother used for me was "Gay"
which took on new symbolism June 28, 1969, Gay Pride day began. It is
also my birthday, June 28th. I attended one of the first Gay Pride days
in Central Park with my best friend who was gay. My first lover in
college became gay after he came back from VietNam, but I married an
eventual sequential monogamist of 5 women when I was 20 years old. It
only lasted 2 years for me and I have had only 2 husbands with another
20 years later.

Then in NYC when I had problems with my name being perceived as an
adjective, I change it to Gae which rings to the asteroid and goddess,
Gaea.

http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/mythology/gaea.html

http://www.thanasis.com/gaea.htm

I became an astrologer and focused on marriages and realtionships. My
second marriage was a man 20 years younger and 20 years after my first
marriage. My present lover is younger as well. I fit in some ways the
myth of Gaea. I do not have sex with my son as Gaea did with Uranus to
give birth to the rains and rivers and seas, but I prefer much younger
men. Basically, because we can share similar interests and music.

I grow plants and gardens and ponds. I rescue and help animals and I
have a younger lover (but now middle aged) and probably always will be
with a much younger man, if this one moves on. Partly this is due to
astrology -- with a middle Leo Ascendant -- how many astrologers would
chose to have a partner with Pluto sitting on their Ascendant at 14 Leo
or their Mar-Jupiter conjunction in the 1st house at 21-24 Leo? So men
near my age and slightly younger won't work because of this.

My son has been concerned about my name, "Gay" or "Gae" and thinks it
has to do with his having a gay father. It sounds as if symbolism fits
reality, then this is possible? I am not Gabriela, however, LOL, so he
need not worry about my becoming a lesbian, but the lover will always
be much younger, as in the myth of Gaea.

The death of that young Brazilian man was so painful to me. He looked
and seemed so innocent and helpless under the circumstances, like a
puppy shot down for no reason, It made me ill to hear of the
circumstances and see his picture. Brazilians in general are very
sweet and innocent people from my experience of all the relatives I
have been connected to through marriage of my ex.

Best regards -- LL

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LibraLove

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Aug 4, 2005, 10:00:01 PM8/4/05
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Hermes wrote:
> LibraLove wrote:
>
SNIP
>
> Thanks a lot for these posts.

You're welcome. TY!

>
> You are certainly a very talented astrologer. My sun is at 14 Leo.
>
> My MC is at 14 Aries, conjunct moon and Chaos at 17 Aries, and now
> also conjunct "Xena" at 11 Aries.

Nice. Your Sun trine MC and Moon! Where is your Moon? 9th or 10th house
side of MC? Does it have a Cap or a Sag flavor?

>
> What I never understood, was what was behind those fights with
> Sharyn. But, I guess, as a man, some aspects of female catfights
> will always remain a mystery to me.

LOL. Sharyn who?

>
> Best wishes, too.
>
> )o+
>
> --
> The attribute "Gabriel" is also linked quite a bit to Quaoar:
> : The Tongva people (sometimes called the San Gabrielino Native
> : Americans) inhabited the Los Angeles area before the arrival
> : of the Spanish and other European people. The name "Quaoar"
> : (pronounced kwah-o-wahr) comes from their creation mythology.
> -- http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~chad/quaoar/

I. R. Heller

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Aug 5, 2005, 4:30:04 PM8/5/05
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"LibraLove" <snacky...@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:1123205676.5...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
IRH:
Hello All: I am sure that I am not the only one who has looked at the link
together with the short description of Quaoar being 1250 miles in diameter,
while the picture tells us it is 800 miles in diameter. First, however, it
tells us that Q is half the diameter of Pluto, which shows to be 1400 miles
in diameter. Now, we do have a choice of 700, 800 or 1250 miles in dia -
as if we did not have enough confusion in our not so little astrological
world. With this kind of "scientific" information, our hard earned
reputation could quickly get a big dent.

I am mentioning this, not because I believe that nobody else has observed
this, the question is here: doesn't it make a difference in possible
"influence" on us poor little earthlings, if the mass of a planet-like body
is very large or tiny ?? especially if it is distance-wise within the range
of the customarily used planets.

Probably not that easy to see at that distance ;-)
However, someone ought to look over the numbers before publishing them (or
having them published) in variations in ONE post, just to stay believable.
How can we trust any numbers, dates etc., if simple - very simple -
mathematical statements right in the beginning of an article are that wrong
(all three numbers simply cannot be correct).
For me the rest of the - possibly even correct - article is not worth
reading.
We have enough bad info coming across our desks - now a days more than ever
before - there is no time left over to be wasted on more misinformation. A
real shame, as the writer has obviously put much time researching this
presented story.
So much on this. - -
Be well,
I.R.Heller

John Roth

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Aug 5, 2005, 6:32:53 PM8/5/05
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"I. R. Heller" <AYWC_I....@t-online.de> wrote in message
news:dd0hhh$i4c$02$1...@news.t-online.com...

>
>>
> IRH:
> Hello All: I am sure that I am not the only one who has looked at the
> link
> together with the short description of Quaoar being 1250 miles in
> diameter,
> while the picture tells us it is 800 miles in diameter. First, however, it
> tells us that Q is half the diameter of Pluto, which shows to be 1400
> miles
> in diameter. Now, we do have a choice of 700, 800 or 1250 miles in dia -
> as if we did not have enough confusion in our not so little astrological
> world. With this kind of "scientific" information, our hard earned
> reputation could quickly get a big dent.

According to the story you reference, and also to the picture here:

http://skyandtelescope.com/news/article_1560_1.asp

Quaoar is 1250 km (that's kilometers, not miles) in diameter.

If you convert that to miles, it comes out to 800 miles, within the
limits of error of the observations.

A kilometer is not a mile. Please keep your units straight.

John Roth

LibraLove

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Aug 5, 2005, 9:05:43 PM8/5/05
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I. R. Heller wrote:

> > > -- http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~chad/quaoar/

> >
> IRH:
> Hello All: I am sure that I am not the only one who has looked at the link
> together with the short description of Quaoar being 1250 miles in diameter,
> while the picture tells us it is 800 miles in diameter. First, however, it
> tells us that Q is half the diameter of Pluto, which shows to be 1400 miles
> in diameter. Now, we do have a choice of 700, 800 or 1250 miles in dia -
> as if we did not have enough confusion in our not so little astrological
> world. With this kind of "scientific" information, our hard earned
> reputation could quickly get a big dent.
>
> I am mentioning this, not because I believe that nobody else has observed
> this, the question is here: doesn't it make a difference in possible
> "influence" on us poor little earthlings, if the mass of a planet-like body
> is very large or tiny ?? especially if it is distance-wise within the range
> of the customarily used planets.
>

[...]

I think you misread the text -- How big is Quaoar? 1250 km, or
kilometers in diameter, and 800 miles in diameter, I believe it says.
Two distinctly different measurements for the same size object.

Scientists often use the Metric system as well as the English system we
are used to.

http://www.brocktonmass.com/weights/history.html

Also, I do not think that mass or size has anything to do with the
power or strength as far as the symbolism of the planet or point.
(Don't get me started with "Size does NOT matter, again.) LOL

Afterall the Moon's Nodes, the Asc/MC, the vertex, etc. have no mass
but have a powerful implications when transited or progressed.

Regards -- LL

Jim Birke

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Aug 5, 2005, 9:07:43 PM8/5/05
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Chris reeve has xena(superman) opposing sun
25 sep 1952
new york
3:15am edt

2003 ub313 should be called superman,superwoman or superhuman.

Jim

Richard Nolle

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Aug 5, 2005, 9:47:38 PM8/5/05
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"fomal...@earthlink.net" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I found Lucy Lawless' birthdate
>
> March 29, 1968
> Auckland, New Zealand
> time is unknown

Lucy Lawless gave her birth time as 6:25 AM (at Mt. Albert,
NZ) in an interview for a fan magazine article, and
indicated a familiarity with her horoscope by stating that
she has 6 Aries rising.

Lawless' birth data and details are in the March celebrity
data at astropro.


--
Richard

http://www.astropro.com/
phone/fax = 480-753-6261

"Astrology is about time . . . what else is there?"

I. R. Heller

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Aug 6, 2005, 7:10:02 PM8/6/05
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"LibraLove" <snacky...@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> I. R. Heller wrote:
>
> > > > -- http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~chad/quaoar/
>
> > >
> > IRH:
> > Hello All: I am sure that I am not the only one who has looked at the
link
> > together with the short description of Quaoar being 1250 miles in
diameter,
> > while the picture tells us it is 800 miles in diameter. First, however,
it
> > tells us that Q is half the diameter of Pluto, which shows to be 1400
miles
> > in diameter. Now, we do have a choice of 700, 800 or 1250 miles in

IRH: SOOOOOOO SORRRRRY , normally I am the one who
sees this kind of thing. Its really embarrassing - I惻l just have to blame
this one (also) on ME rx - - - so there ;-)
However I do believe give or take even a *merely* 100 miles of a
difference in diameter (i.e. 700 - as in "half of Pluto愀 1400 miles" - or
800 miles) *does* matter, when trying to make a believable statement
regarding just those numbers. [LL, I was talking about *miles* and in
*diameter* :-) ]
Of course, the power it will have regarding influence [LL, the power
of "Xena" this time :) ] will need to be observed - astrologically
speaking, that is. - - -
Y徨ll have yourselves a great weekend.
Be well,
I.R.Heller

Christine

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Aug 7, 2005, 9:20:32 AM8/7/05
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"I. R. Heller" <AYWC_I....@t-online.de> schreef in bericht
news:dd3fso$86t$01$1...@news.t-online.com...
[..]

> Of course, the power it will have regarding influence [LL, the power
> of "Xena" this time :) ] will need to be observed - astrologically
> speaking, that is. - - -
> Y徨ll have yourselves a great weekend.
> Be well,
> I.R.Heller
>

I wonder if it will be possible in a lifetime to observe any influence the
new planet exerts. From the ephemeris provided in another thread, it takes
more than one hundred years to transit ONE sign. There's an old saying, " It
will all be history in a hundred years."
Maybe that's the clue? :-))

Regards,
Christine.

fomal...@earthlink.net

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Aug 9, 2005, 4:15:43 AM8/9/05
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Hi Christine,

You have to remember that Xena has an erratic orbit and it well off the
ecliptic. It can be in other signs much longer and shorter than other
signs. Pluto is the same way because it has an eccentric orbit.

You have to take the eccentric orbits into account when determining how
long a planet will be in sign.

Raymond

Christine

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Aug 11, 2005, 6:00:19 PM8/11/05
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<fomal...@earthlink.net> schreef in bericht
news:1123568815.0...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

Thanks for your posts regarding the new planet, Raymond. You study the
astronomy as well, of which I know little except that which I read in astro.
books and magazines or on AAmod. There is a view that one cannot be an
astrologer without studying astronomy as well. Although familiar with the
coordination within the Solar system, I study the planets and signs (and
other objects) through the meaning and effect of their symbolism rather than
their astronomical factors. Either way, it remains to be seen what the new
planet will represent, don't you think ?

Regards,
Christine.

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