Judyth: From the Beginning, Part 13
Dave Reitzes
Allison's claim of October 20, 2000, "As I'm told Reitzes has
unsuccessfully been trying to obtain [Judyth's] story for himself and
McAdams from poor Ms. Baker herself . . ."
I'm omitting some of these exchanges here, but there are some
references to the subject in the e-mails that follow, and in Part 14.
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Subj: Re: Matthew Allison, aka Atlas...@aol.com; private
Date: 10/21/00 7:34:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: Americanwebworks
To: Dreitzes
Dear dave,
I haven't mentioned any particulars about you to anybody, just the
general information to Howard that i have talked to you and believe
you have been treating me honestly. of course, I could be wrong, as I
thought Lifton was a man of honor. But I can;t help sensing that
there's something rather wonderfully good about you. You are
passionately sure, I know, that Lee killed Kennedy. yet, Dave, even
though some people have said you can be really mean, i haven't noticed
much beyond the normal manly defense of yourself. You don't seem to
descend to the list of name-calling that Jerry sinks into when he can
no longer think, he's seeing so much red.
i admire men, and, as a woman, I respect good men whatever their
viewpoints.
As for the paper in New orleans, I came in late so i would not be
seated with the panel, and I wore no name tag. that angered them. I
hate being seen or noticed, Dave, and I wanted to make sure nobody
would show up who might want to care about this. Several reporters
came and left, thinking I did not show. After almost everybody left, I
spoke up and introduced myself as a member of the panel and apologized
for my lateness. of course they were miffed and did not give me
adequate time to present the paper. Free drinks were being
disatributed across the hall.
I didn;t care about presenting the paper, just as i do not care aout
the book coming out before it is ready. I only want it to be on record
that I did know about Lee's reading habits. I even stated in the paper
that I knew Lee personally. this was taken to mean i was then a little
girl, as one of those who heard the paper delivered thought I could
not be in my fifties (I do not look like i am in my fifties). possibly
for the same reason, matt thought I could not have been 57 and in his
mind skipped over the fact that I did not go directly to Reily's from
High school. In between was specialized training at Roswell Park, a
meeting at Eli lilly in indianapolis, a stint of research at St.
Francis College (and a technical paper on melanogenesis deloivered to
the Indiana Biological Association), and then work at the University
of Florida at gainesville. After new orleans, i worked in a halide and
flourocarbon compounding analysis and research lab that made
specialized made-to-order chemicals for many cust9mers, including the
government. this position with no degree and a grade of "D" on my
"official" transcript! My "grades" were a sham behind which i hid,
just as Lee oswald also was hidden behind poor "grades" in
marksmanship, etc. I know my records were all messed up. i am "femal
infant Vary" in 1963, April 26 birth certificate. I was fully named
though in 1955 when i had to present a birth certificate in Florida
after we moved there, to a public school.
Dave, these critics out there, David Lifton and Jerry whomever,
can't even spell "Reily" right. By the eway, my boss was MONAGHAN, not
MONOGHAN, but that is an easy mistake to make.
I can prove, Dave, that i have never been to the national Archives
or got any records ever from them until one five hour period when I
was there with Matt this summer, and Matt saw that i simply went
through boxes at lightning speed lloking for names i would recognize,
and handwriting i would recognize. i spotted handwriting i recognized
and pulled out a handwritten letter by David lewis, for example,
complaining that he had been shot at.
I have had to work very hard in my life as a single parent raising
four children by myself, under a great deal of oprression from a
Mormon husband who sued me six times to get them back and raise them
Mormon. he failed. But i can account for ALL of my time, Dave.
I did not look up anything until very recently, to support what i
had prevbiously written. Dave, my house has not a single book at
present, and only had one or two very recently, about this matter.
My books are 18th century literature, where i had concentrated a
great deal of study.
WHY?
because if i had lifted my head in the medical field, they
would have killed me.
One of the stron proofs I am who i say i am is that instead of
becoming a notable cancer research specialist as everybody believed, I
did not get my first degree for 25 years. I his from sight, dave, and
so i am alive to tell about Lee and me. It ruined my life, that summer
of '63 when ochsner sent me money for a bus ticket on trailways to go
to New orleans and "help him out in a project."
He already knew i had dated anti-castroites, and was good friends
with Tony Lopez-fresquet, son of the Finance Minister in castro's
cabinet (Rufo, who translated for Castro wqhen he went to New York/
wherever).
I had connections with Smathers, right-wing generals, and right-
wing doctors (Moore, Diehl, Ochsner) all well documented. I was
friends with MacKinlay Kantor, Curtis LeMay's biolgrapher. I describe
things i saw and lived through and do not have to resort to books,
files or any of that.
I am living history, and if they destroy me, they'll never learn
the truth.
I was there, Dave.
I wish you could meet me and see the evidence for yourself. i know
better than to talk about this without sufficient proof. peoiple
screaming at me like jerry has been doing, well, i will never speak to
him, dave. I know you think lee is guilty, and I'd like to say there
is a possibility that at some or any point when he was in Dallas that
he lied to me, but I don;t think so. We really were crazy about each
other. i know intimate things about him, his possessions and his life
with marina, and when people ask me, i tell them. That's how lee's
reading to me the STORY of the Queen of Spades came about. It was a
gray book, and is just one of many p[ersonal details i have given many
people about Lee's private life and possessions that have proven to a
number of people who knew this or that isolated thing that i really
was there.
i rode the bus to and from work with lee and have proof i lived
within walking distance of him, and that I moved in only a few days
before he moved in to HIS place. We interviewed the same day at
Reily's. in my position as special assistant to Vice president and
Finance manager and security manager Bill Monaghan, I was able to make
sure Lee's background report never mentioned any of his Soviet past,
etc. as Reily was a very conservative right-wing company. Go look up
the background report that is QUOTED from 9that's because the second
page had something that PROVES it was bogus, or, should i say, an
attached page about lee's BANK ACCOUNT (savings) that of course did
not exist and had way too much money in it also. All of that was to
legitimize his records. i was ordered to make it all nice and clean
and did so, but I was a cancer researcher, not a typist, and lee
himself actually dictated some of the words of the background report
as i typed it out! I put the initials of the usua;l secretary on it so
nobody could trace this to me. And there it stands, the background
report making Lee oswald look like a saint and a patriot. With the
famous typos even in that, i have always been awful at typing!
So go look it up, Dave. i do not own any books but heard that it
was an exhibit in the W.C. 26 volumes and in HSCA's also, i think. it
doesn't matter, i'm telling you one of the many reasons they used me
at reily's, besaides generating a paycheck so I could work at dave';s
and elsewhere on the project without getting traced. not being a
docotr or having any record of even being in a medical school (I was
still just19 when I arrived in N.O.) i was perfect because perfectly
untraceable.
And lee and i did fall in love. Remember, i looked just like Marina,
and spoke comversational Russia. So we could walk together on the
streets and it looked like he was with her. but it was me. And my
name? J. Vary. got mixed up constantly even then woith dave ferrie.
They were not looking for a girl, they thought he had only men and
boys over there, and atop that, my father was D.WQ. vary and dave was
D.W. ferrie. We worked with dr. Mary and had the joke going: mary,
Ferrie and Vary.
I think it saved me from being discovered.
But i sure as heck wasn;t going to go get a doctor's degree and
bring it out in the open again. So nopw i teach college English, and
of course, my whole life was destroyed on. 22, 1963. You are welcome
to correspond with any of my friends who have met me, and seen the
evidence, and were so kind as to give me a chance to explain
everything. They will be remembered forever for their courage and
honesty in their dealings with this woman who has been very
fr4ightened to speak at all. I am not doing it for myself. i turned
down a huge amt. of money from a tabloid, in fact. I'm doing this to
set the record straight and know i have nothing to gain except mockery
and stupid attacks. But it will go on the record. I will not rest
until people see the truth.
Thank you for your patience, j
-j-
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Subj: i think they are talking about this person, not you, Dave.....
Date: 10/21/00 7:42:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: ElectLady63
To: Dreitzes
[...]
Dr. McAdams immediately supported David Lifton's very distorted
comments. Since he had opportunity to contact martin about me--all he
had to do was ask--and did not---I was very disappointed that he would
automatically support Mr. Lifton. I know the person to whom he showed
the notes, and this person is an important ediotr who doesn;t even
like me very much, and has some problems with a portion of what i have
to say. even so, this was startling twisting of what the notes said,
and Martin was told of the original content of those notes, which he
mentions here.
I hardly ever mentioned mr. Lifton.
[...]
-if you plug in "Judyth' on deja.com, you'll see --especially if you
look at "Jerry" "McAdams," and "Judyand...(whoever)...these three in
particular tore into me============the worst was about "ex-lax" (and
the quotes taken totally out of context made me, of course, look like
an idiot. I had broken down and cried telling some of this to mr.
Lifton. He thought that meant i was a fake. HE had not kept it stuffed
inside of him all those years. What happens, something I will say,
touches on something i have avoided thinking about, and suddenly, i
get a flashback. It's something I have no control over. i have looked
up flashback phenomena, apparently this is like what war veterans go
through. I went through a great deal and pushed everything asdie. For
years, i avoided even turning my head in the direction of a single
news story. Thank you for taking these emails.======-j- I am too
tired to continue. Have 105 papers (college level essays) to grade due
Friday.....
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Subj: this might interest you..see how much i wanted to stay in
medicine? Didn't dare.
Date: 10/21/00 7:47:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: ElectLady63
To: Dreitzes
Subj: intraperitoneal lavage as per our conversation---but here it's
'studied' in1998
Date: 10/08/2000
To: Ho...@aol.com
CC: msh...@concentric.net
Unbelievable! i told you how I instructed surgeons to try saline
lavage intraperitoneally to reduce incidence of adhesions, and they
tried it in surgery at Roswell Park, with good results. I do not know
if it had been done before in U.S. or not but had assumed the
procedure was done before i ever mentioned it, though it is simple
common sense to do such lavage. Anyway---I told you about this matter
just a couple of days ago--that it could be done --and was at least
for a time---way back in 1961! Lo and behold, here is an experiment
being done on standing horses, in 1998---cruelly--to demonstrate the
matter, probably thinking about applying it to humans in the future,
right? Sigh. Yes, i think i could be useful in a lab somewhere, if
somebody would just let me go back in!!!!!!!!
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Subj: Re: "As I'm told . . ."
Date: 10/21/00 8:19:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: Americanwebworks
To: Dreitzes
Dear dave, i have no control over these people [her advocates--DR],
just as they have no control over me, or assuredly, they would not
"let" us correspond.
I reported that you had asked for a copy of the book. Not even Matt
ever did that, as I had explained to everybody that I have the only
full copy. I suppose this was enough information to make people think
you were after the story, and it is reasonable to think that, given
the past associations. I don;t think anything particularly sinister in
your getting the book of itself, but I did express concerns that if
you got it, what would happen if you didn't like it? What would happen
to it? if this constitutes anything that would not be reasonable to
say about anybody, well, then this is my fault. i have said the same
thing about everybody who has a copy of the book. We are all very
tied, dave. I have had a bad week and I've been ill atop that.
I do not want you to be offended. There is no sneaky set of
accusations going around, just the natural concern anybody might have
about anybody who asked for the book. I have searched my very tired
brain and think this must be what matt is thinking, that you were
trying to get the book to pass it on to McAdams. or maybe any one of
us, even I myself, might have said that. it is nothing personal, we
have talked about all the what-if's that everybopdy has had to worry
about where the book has gone out.
The book has what I call "flags' in them. A couple of us have the
true version, and the other version has some things in it that will
keep it from getting pirated.
Dave, i was offered over half a million dollars to give this book up,
please do not take it personally. I will not lightly offer the book to
anybody, and will discuss it first with those who have been standing
with me. This is not to cast aspersions on you. i don;t know if this
flares your temper, but the book was bought at the cost of blood,
Dave.
Mary (Sherman) was murdered because of what she knew. She was murdered
the very day the Warren Commission came into town.
However you think it happened, Dave Ferrie's life was cut short
and he almost went insane under all the pressdure. he never broke and
kept us safe.
Anna and David Lewis had to split up to start separate lives.
They both hid for years.
Guy Banister conveniently died in 1964, too. So did Hugh.
Tony Lopez Fresquet and his brother have disappeared.
My friend Gene Courson who knew about my project "committed
suicide" (sure).
My father was given a large sum of money from unknown sources
and moved to Ft. Eayne, where my Indiana laboratory was located. he
stayed there several years with my mother and then they moved back to
Floridaas about the same time the Garrison investigation was over.
Sandra Sexton, Garrison's hermaphrodite lover, vanished in New
York and my friend Mac mcCullough, the bodyguard in the mafia who
protected her, never saw her again. He, too, eventually had to flee
from New Orleans.
Mr. Lee who knew MY lee is now sheriff forever in Jefferson
Parish and is in so tight with the mafia that he spqueaks. He knows
a LOT.
I am friends with mafia here or they would have wiped me out for
talking about them as much as i have. TDo not underestimate what i am
having to live with here in Lousiaina. They know i won;t give out the
names of anybody still alive, but i was warned there is no stature of
limitations on murder. I have had serious death threats form a mafia
hitman and the "family" did haul him off and get him off my case..
So please do not be offended if we discuss why you asked for the
book, and who should get a copy of it. It hasn't gone out to many
people, and there is blood on every page.
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Dave