Received: by 10.66.83.35 with SMTP id n3mr1966539pay.23.1349409035759; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 20:50:35 -0700 (PDT) From: curtjester1 Newsgroups: alt.assassination.jfk Subject: Re: Book including Oswald Date: 4 Oct 2012 23:50:34 -0400 Lines: 89 Approved: jmcad...@shell.core.com Message-ID: <0c706e01-0b5b-4e1d-b928-3db9ce487d23@h4g2000yqo.googlegroups.com> References: <563b28fe-49e4-4b51-86a8-1eaf6a5a0628@googlegroups.com> <5b743e66-5ea3-42e4-a8ec-d2478d6b71c8@w3g2000yqe.googlegroups.com> <50667740$1@mcadams.posc.mu.edu> <1bdb7dce-7b4e-424f-96a3-f888eb9dde93@z8g2000yql.googlegroups.com> <5069c7c3$1@mcadams.posc.mu.edu> <506b5dd6$1@mcadams.posc.mu.edu> <5cdc961e-5d45-4989-b7f8-a78c4dcac233@googlegroups.com> Return-Path: X-Original-To: aa...@panix.com Delivered-To: aa...@panix.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: h4g2000yqo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=67.252.119.72; posting-account=lFqiYwoAAAD2IKQcBZh95lj2PKh5g091 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 9.0; Windows NT 6.0; WOW64; Trident/5.0),gzip(gfe) Injection-Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 01:55:40 +0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.84.1.3 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.84.1.3 X-Trace: mcadams.posc.mu.edu 1349409035 166.84.1.3 (4 Oct 2012 22:50:35 -0500) X-Original-Trace: 4 Oct 2012 22:50:35 -0500, 166.84.1.3 Path: g9ni25039pbh.1!nntp.google.com!news.glorb.com!news2.arglkargh.de!news.albasani.net!mcadams.posc.mu.edu!panix3.panix.com!not-for-mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Oct 3, 8:59=A0pm, Richard Ferguson wrote: > My goodness, I just got back to look at this site. =A0With the greatest > trepidation, I'll respond again. > > For the person who questioned the Oiorpata, go to this site:http://www.wo= a.tv/articles/hi_amazonexist.html > > Here is an excerpt: "On vases, the Amazons are depicted much like another > enemy of the Greeks, the Persians-skimpy, smooth-cheeked creatures wearin= g > spotted trousers and pointy Phrygian caps. Greeks, on the other hand, are > pictured half-naked, beautiful and, above all, ultra-macho. Some scholars > claim that the Amazon myths were designed to show that reversing the > =93natural=94 (which in ancient Greece meant male-dominated) order would > always lead to disaster. > > But in the second half of the twentieth century, archaeologists Renate > Rolle and Jeannine Davis-Kimball separately uncovered evidence that > challenged this theory. In the steppe-land surrounding the Black Sea (now > Ukraine and Russia), they discovered graves of women buried with > classically female accoutrements as well as weapons such as bows and > arrows, daggers and swords. Excited scientists determined that these women > were Sauromatians or Scythians, nomadic horse-riding races named by > Herodotus as part of the Amazons=92 ancestry. > > Finally, archaeologists had evidence that warrior women existed in an area > where Greek authors situated some of the original Amazons. But these Iron > Age kurgans (grave mounds) also contained skeletons of men and > children=97a major departure from the Amazons of Greek legend, who were > Oiorpata (man killers) that lived apart from men. Rolle uncovered one > grave that contained a young woman with a baby on her breast. The remains > left little doubt that the woman was a warrior (the finger bones of her > bow-pulling hand were worn and weapons were found by her side). These > warlike women could have served as the basis for the Amazon myth, but with > some other characteristics thrown in by the Greek authors for good > measure=97such as man killing and separatism. But where might these more > dramatic aspects of the Amazonian legend have come from?" > > To the parsing of my sentence. =A0The first time I said it, I said he was > knocked back by the impact. =A0The second time I didn't. > > It's a > > >>>> fact that Kennedy bounced off the back seat after he was shot. =A0I tried > >>>> looking at the film frame by frame and couldn't see his head move forward > >>>> after the shot. > > =A0 I wanted to make it a true statement whether you agree it was from th= e > impact or not. =A0I shouldn't have muddied it by throwing in that I could= n't > see his head move forward. =A0That wasn't meant to be included as a fact. > > I will add that I fired expert on all ranges in the Army, including firin= g > from the hip at pop-up targets with an M-1. =A0I spent part of my youth o= n a > ranch in the Mogollon mountains of New Mexico. =A0I went hunting with my > father and others many times and shot both white-tailed deer and mule > deer. =A0I have to observe that when I shot a mule deer broadside, hittin= g > it in line with the heart but a little high so the bullet hit its backbon= e > and shoulder blades, it was knocked sideways and flat on its side. =A0I w= as > either firing a thirty-thirty or a thirty-forty at the time. =A0When I (o= r > others) made a clean heart shot, the deer either stood for a short time > and collapsed or ran a short distance and collapsed. > > When I was in the Army, there were officers and sergeants who had been in > WWII. =A0They said the Japanese doped up soldiers and sent them to sneak > into the officers quarters, then run through and shoot as many officers a= s > they could before they were killed. =A0The officers said they had > thirty-eights and could hit the Japanese soldiers but couldn't stop them. > They'd sometimes take a number of shots before stopping. =A0So the Army > issued forty-fives to the officers. =A0After that, they said the forty-fi= ve > bullets would stop the Japanese soldiers or knock them down. =A0That seem= s > to suggest that bullets actually can have an impact. In case you want to write a sequel...... http://www.ctka.net/reviews/russell_review_2.html CJ