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On Saturday, September 29, 2012 12:57:32 PM UTC-4, (unknown) wrote:
> On Friday, September 28, 2012 1:36:19 PM UTC-7, (unknown) wrote:
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> > On Friday, September 28, 2012 1:42:52 PM UTC-4, Anthony Marsh wrote:
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> > > On 9/27/2012 11:35 PM, elpdrum...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > > > On Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:28:51 PM UTC-4, Anthony Marsh wr=
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> > > >> On 9/26/2012 10:15 PM, fatoldcr...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > > >>> what happened up there." What happened up there, many people, inc=
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> > > >>> Officer Haygood was the first officer to get up there and he repo=
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> > > >>> Depository Building here with that Hertz Renting sign on top."
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> > > >> It would help if you could upload the photo you are talking about.
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> > > >> Hargis was up in that area also so we don't know if you are sure w=
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> > > >> was which. Hargis is the motorcycle cop wearing black gloves. Hayg=
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> > > >    There is absolutely no proof that Hargis went to that area. None=
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> > > >>> and the person he's looking at, the closest person to him, is a m=
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> > > >>> dressed as a DPD detectve, apparently talking on a walkie talkie,=
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> > > >>> gun leaned up on the concrete railing in front of him. I think it=
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> > > >>> that this is Haygood's "guy standing close to it," but how does h=
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> > > >> If you could show us the guy maybe we'd know who he is, where he w=
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> > > >> what he reported seeing and hearing. Remember, most witnesses only=
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> > > >> the shots or saw the effects of the shots and did not actually see=
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> > > >> fired. For instance Baker knew instantly from the sound that the s=
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> > > >> came from a high floor of the TSBD in the eastern corner.
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> > > >>> any sense? If he had somehow run up there before Haygood, wouldn'=
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> > > >>> still have his gun in his hands and be looking for snipers? It lo=
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> > > >>> he's settled in very comfortably and chatting to somebody. But, w=
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> > > >> Who ran up there with a gun in his hand? Only Joe Smith.
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> > > >     Hargis was gun-drawn when he ran to the light pole on Elm Stree=
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> > > > is still gun drawn as he is scanning the area, according to Dick Sp=
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> > > > and the Bell film.
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> > > Steve, the original question was about some cop running up to the gra=
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> > > >>> never got mentioned in the Warren Commission testimony of Haygood=
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> > > >>> away from it while the presidential limousine starts under the un=
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> > > >>> How can nobody mention this guy for 60 years? And what does Offic=
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> > > >> Maybe somebody did. Maybe there is a recorded interview that you d=
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> > > >>> Haygood mean, that somebody close to what happened on the bridge =
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> > > >>> were. Seeing this guy there with a gun, why would Haygood believe=
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> > > >>> unless he was a Dallas cop? But if he is a Dallas cop, why doesn'=
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> dcw

   Officer Hargis did in fact use his radio at 12:34, and whether or not 
he remembers using his radio is irrelevant. Hargis' call number was 136 on 
November 22,1963, and 136 made a transmission at 12:34. On top of this, 
Hargis didn't testify to the HSCA, and you are confusing what H.B. McLain 
said with Hargis. McLain is the person who said he didn't use his radio 
that day, not Hargis.