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Anthony Marsh  
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 More options Oct 3 2012, 2:19 pm
Newsgroups: alt.assassination.jfk
From: Anthony Marsh <anthony.ma...@comcast.net>
Date: 3 Oct 2012 14:19:34 -0400
Local: Wed, Oct 3 2012 2:19 pm
Subject: Re: Officer Haygood's call in at 12:34-12:35
On 10/2/2012 7:53 PM, Saintly Oswald wrote:

> On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 7:17:57 PM UTC-4, Anthony Marsh wrote:
>> On 10/2/2012 3:27 PM, Saintly Oswald wrote:

>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2012 1:34:31 PM UTC-4, Anthony Marsh wrote:

>>>> On 9/28/2012 4:30 PM, fatoldcr...@gmail.com wrote:

>>>>> On Friday, September 28, 2012 1:44:52 PM UTC-4, Anthony Marsh wrote:

>>>>>> On 9/27/2012 11:25 PM, fatoldcr...@gmail.com wrote:

>>>>>>> On Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:28:51 PM UTC-4, Anthony Marsh wrote:

>>>>>>>> On 9/26/2012 10:15 PM, fatoldcr...@gmail.com wrote:

>>>>>>> Actually, your idea that it is Hargis in the Cabluck photo is an

>>>>>>> interesting notion. Everybody says it is Haygood and Hargis did not

>>>>>>> testify to going up there.  But, I think it is a possibility. If it really

>>>>>>> had been Hargis, that would mean that he ran directly from where he

>>>>>>> stopped his bike when the president was shot to what he thought was the

>>>>>>> source of the shots and saw my rifle man there. This in fact was my

>>>>>>> original interpretation. But, the various photographs seem to suggest that

>>>>>>> Hargis had actually got back to his bike and left before the press bus

>>>>>>> carrying Cabluck came by. A photo shows Hargis approaching his bike while

>>>>>>> Jean Hill is still sitting down. Another photo, when Jean Hill and most

>>>>>>> everybody else had already stood up again, shows a bus approaching the

>>>>>>> underpass while a notorcycle cop is about to reach the top. That can't be

>>>>>>> Hargis, and that is probably Cabluck's bus. I'm not going to upload all

>>>>>>> this stuff, since it is already a generally accepted fact that the Cabluck

>>>>>>> photo is of Haygood.

>>>>>> Let me ask you this simple question and see if you can figure it out.

>>>>>> Look at whatever photo you are talking about, don't show it to me. Can

>>>>>> you see that the cop is wearing black gloves? Can you find any other

>>>>>> cycle cop wearing black gloves that day? Some did.

>>>>>> BTW, Robert Cutler did an elaborate diagram of Hargis's movements after

>>>>>> the last shot. He actually at one time suspected that it was Hargis who

>>>>>> had his microphone stuck on open, not McLain. I can't remember which

>>>>>> issue it was, but this weekend I'll look through my old Grassy Knoll

>>>>>> Gazettes and see if I can find it. If I do I'll scan it in at 300 DPI,

>>>>>> but try to keep the file size down with compression.

>>>>> There is a Cancellare photo that shows a cop standing up on the railing

>>>>> with nice black gloves. Maybe that's the one you had in mind. I don't know

>>>>> who that is, but all of the other evidence says it is not Hargis. In this

>>>>> picture, you can see that another motorcycle cop is already on the other

>>>>> side of the railing, and a crowd has gathered on the knoll side, so this

>>>>> is after the Cabluck photo.

>>>> Ok, show me a photo of amy OTHER cop other than Hargis in Dealey Plaza

>>>> wearing black gloves. Steve Barber just said that he was the first to

>>>> point out that Hargis was wearing black gloves.

>>>> Is the other cop Haygood? Do you know what clues to look for to tell the

>>>> difference between a traffic cop or beat cop from a motorcycle cop? Most

>>>> of the cops on the ground in Dealey Plaza did not wear helmets.

>>> I'm looking at a picture now I had downloaded which somebody labelled

>> "Darnell Frame," and Buddy Walthers is in it and Clyde Haygood is also

>> labelled, and he is wearing black gloves. This is in the parking lot with

>> the TSBD visible in the background, and another cop, D.V. Harkness looking

>> into the camera. If that's Haygood before he radioed in, he sure is taking

>> his sweet time with those 4 and a half minutes.

>> Consider your source.

> I can't vouch for the source, but it is consistent with the testimony of
> Haygood and Hargis and the other photographic evidence. It is only your
> assertion that Hargis had cornered the black motorcycle cop gloves market
> in the Dealey Plaza area, which conflicts with that conclusion. I stress
> the point only so that I can move on. It makes an even better case for
> conspiracy if it is not Haygood on the bridge, because then they are all
> lying.

Stop guessing. Show me.

 
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